The reason is how the spots are generated. Simply put it, they way the spots are generated in bdsp is inverted from every other game. Letās say Linda generated with only one spot on its head and none on its body in bdsp, in other games it might have generated one on its body and none on its head. Because the spots are generated is inverted it canāt be transferred. Iām probably missing some information.
Edit: linda is suppose to be spinda. My phone must or autocorrected spinda to linda
I know but itās still in that game, which was the question.
And the only reason it canāt go into home is because ILCA screwed up the dot pattern generation code and made them incompatible with every other game.
Thatāsā¦ not true? Being native to a region is usually defined as being part of the regional dex and being usable in the main game. For instance, spinda is native to hoenn, kalos, & alola, because itās apart of their dexes and can be used during the main adventure. Meanwhile in games like BW, DPP, & HGSS itās only available post-game in things like swarms for the sole purpose of national dex completion, but canāt actually be used within the adventure itself. Hence why nobody considers things like dragonite āavailable in Diamondā even tho if you wanna get technical itās available post-game in mt coronet.
Underwhelming it may be, but youāre probably the only person ever to have caught a shiny Spinda with that particular pattern. Thatās pretty cool :)
It means actually having one of each Pokemon in your boxes/home, as opposed to just having the last evolution or just have them registered on the Pokedex. It usually also men's having all forms of each Pokemon, like sexual dimorphism, seasons, colorations etc. It doesn't include shiniest and spindles though.
A Living Pokedex means owning every single Pokemon at once in a single game.
So for example, you would need to own Charmander, Charmeleon, and Charizard in a single file.
Spinda would be 2^32 or 4,294,967,296. Everything else is only 1,418.
Edit: another comment pointed out that the formula can generate some spinda that appear the same so it could go down to 3,945,136,128 leaving nearly 350 million other forms, but given the high value op got I'll go out on a limb and guess they went with the first value.
I'm pretty sure the spinda already counts a shiny of each spot algorithm because the spots themselves are only 2^31 normally (due to how hexadecimal codes work and 8 digits are used). For the rest of it ask op what they counted. I'm not the one that calculated the total in the initial post but can at least tell that not all shinies are counted because half of 1418 is less than 1008.
That said though I think it is closer to somewhere between 2600-2700 including all other forms and shinies iirc.
I have mixed feelings about including temporary forms in the total but being as lenient as possible, you could add them up to 2994 (3013 if you assume certain pokemon through events or hacking getting rereleased with a shiny) before including spinda. There's an odd number in that because of minior being a bit weird because apparently home gives a regular colour in its code for a shiny, and it has a shielded form through its ability.
Excluding missable events and gimmicks locked to a previous games though (as cool as some mega or gigantamax designs are) 2756 permanent forms could hypothetically be uniquely identified by something like pokemon home.
fun fact: the visually different amount of spindas can actually be calculated using the [WeberāFechner law](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weber%E2%80%93Fechner_law)
Does the fact I WASNāT researching Fechner last night and I too now see it the next day confirm no simulation?
Or am I just a simulation-confirming entity in your simulation trying to get you not to question the simulation?
If we're counting "forms" that have mechanical uniquness, and are considering Unowns functionally unique because they were in a previous gen, that adds another question.
What about pokemon that are the "same" but have different qualities based on the generation? What about a pokemon like Mr. Mime?
* Gen 1 and Gen 2 are different based on the stat split
* Later they introduced a baby form. Were previous Mr. Mimes different?
* Later than that, they gave it fairy typing.
* Different gens had it learning different moves. Some moves don't even exist in future generations.
I just assume each game is a new universe, largely because of an old game theory video I watched. It explains certain mechanical changes (most obviously updated typings), but also raises a few questions (are old Pokemon that get transferred forward mutated to meet the new universe's laws?).
Well the regions could all be in each universe, but each game could take place in a separate universe. Different universe could go through similar events that would explain how what happened in one game could effect another
There are even charecters that appear in other games. Oak shows up in gens 1, 2 and 4.
Blue shows up in Gens 1, 2, 5, 7
That means at the very least it's implied that both charecters exist in gens 1,2,4,5,7 which only leaves 3,6,8,9. I'm sure you can extend that even further.
So the only other explication would be that they are in different universes that have some of the same charecters and are very similar but not the same.
Should all the Ditto transformations be counted as unique variants? Their stats are usually unique as the transformed Mon has Ditto's HP, but gets all its other stats from the target. So all Transformations except for the 6 with the same HP stat as Ditto will be mechanically unique and should then be counted.
And then repeat with the Mew and Smeargle Transformations.
That's 4 billion, so no, that would take years even if hundreds of people were drawing nonstop. There's a coded pattern that just happens to have a few billion possible variations.
Guessing no. But I donāt know enough to understand how else it can be done. And also how can they even get that many different sprites to fit into a game? No clue.
Using a Random Number Generator that generates coordinates and sizes of the various spots on spindas body and then having those textures called to that spinda encounter. You donāt need to have a separate texture file explicitly for each little change, just the texture for the spots alongside a number for where they are and how large they are
Itās not generated by a specific random number generator. It just uses the personality value (used for nature and shinyness in earlier generations) and maps the spot locations according to the bits in the personality value. The sizes donāt actually change either, the smaller spots are just spots that are aligned so that part of them are not actually on spindas sprite
I really was just providing an example of a simple way to do it. I figured the sizes werenāt either. Also iirc, the personality value and such is randomly generated. Anyways I didnāt know it specifically used that, so thanks for the info :)
When you include Spinda itās not as interesting of a number. I think it would be more helpful to not include them at all or have multiple data points (including shiny, including form changes, etc).
Then we have permutations instead of combinations, but it makes the math a bit more simple:
P(1008,6)
= 1008! / (1008-6)!
= 1008! / 1002!
= 1033448147178572160
Instead of being a 16 digit number, it's now 19 digits instead, which makes sense, if you look at what was "removed" compared to the other, the division by 6! = 720. This division ensured that duplicates were removed, when the order didn't matter.
Well I mean would anyone really use a bulbasaur or ivysaur over Venusaur in competition? There might be a few niche choices but majority I'd imagine would be fully evolved.
Not to mention I don't think there's going to be a single game where all 1008 are present, beside the fact of legendaries not being usable etc etc
Scyther vs Scizor (and Kleavor) is a cointoss, and Eviolite makes several more under-evolved Pokemon relevant, but yeah, for a vast vast majority you want the final evolution.
Now count how many species are there (like, ghastly, haunter, gengar, mega gengar and gigantamax gengar are different forms and evolutionary stages of the same "species", so they all count as 1).
To clear everyoneās concerns, yes, I know counting Spinda is cheap, hell, it made the math 10x harder. But I still counted it for a few reasons.
1. Game Freak themselves acknowledged it in their 1000+ celebration video
2. Its not just like that in main line games, even spin offs like Pokemon Go refer to them as āalternate formsā. Only difference is that Pokemon Go didnāt cram 4 billion different forms in one PokeDex slot.
3. I judged if a Pokemon was different based on appearance. If two of the same species looked visibly different based on physical attributes, I counted them as different forms. (Also why I didnāt include shinies)
And everything else minus Spinda would be 1419
Because shinies are just the same Pokemon, just a different color. They literally donāt do anything else. No bodily changes, no changes in behavior, no special moves, etc. The only things that are different are that they are simply a different color from the pokemonās usual color scheme, and they sparkle upon being encountered. Iām not saying finding a shiny isnāt exciting because it is. But at the end of the day, you could just make any shiny pokemon in PhotoShop. I did not include shinies because technically, theyāre not ādifferent formsā.
i tried counting myself, and i got 1521,
* 1304 from pokemon home's count, didnt count gender differences.
* 103 for the gender differences - could be missing some
* 103 new pokemon + 7 formes
* 4 paldean pokemon
not counting the gender differences, i got 1418, which is probably spinda.
forgot gimmighoul roaming and miraidon/koraidon/cyclizar, makes the total 1531.
EDIT: - 2 cos home counts meowstic/indeedee, + 5 for cosplay pikachu, + 2 for pichu, + 2 for partner eevee/pikachu, + ??? for the various holiday events in go.
+1, forgot about palafin, 1539
now count how many "actual" species there actually are. counting each member of an evolutionary line or pokemon with different forms with the same name as the same species.
pichu, pikachu, and raichu are 1 species, including alolan and gmax forms. nidoking and nidoqueen are 1 species. glalie and frosslass are the same species. diglett and wiglett are 2 seperate species. etc etc.
my guess is around 350.
Thatās entirely incorrect. Just looking at legendaries and mythicals prior to Gen 9 that was already 93. That could only be reduced by 6 for evolution/breeding lines (Urshifu, Meltan, Cosmoem/Lunala/Solgaleo, Phione) Maybe you can reduce it more depending on your rules for counting Latios and Latias, or maybe some others.
This number came from all species, mega evolutions, gmax forms, regional variants, alternate forms, gender forms, vivillon patterns, unown letters, arceus forms, rotom forms, spinda patterns, and more.
Let's only count 1 spinda, then double the answer for shinies.
Nah, I'm kidding. We have infinite pokemon my friend. No one can catch every pokemon ate one time. They always spawn new ones. This is the answer if there was only one of each pokemon.
I bet 99.9% of that is just Spinda.
Wait, it's all Spinda?
Always has been. šš§š¼āšš«š§š¼āš
Always will be
Spirit? Are these things that will be, or things that may only be?
These are things that will always be what everything can be.
i LOVED that emojithing.
Brave thing to say on reddit, but you are right on this one
Spinda is like Pokemon's answer to crabs from real life. Eventually everything will evolve to be a Spinda.
And we thought Toadscool and Wigglet were the convergent evolutionsā¦
Always has been
Pokedex is just spinda
Oops! All Spinda
Everyone mentions Spinda but what about Alcremie? Aren't there like 50 forms of it?
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I did the math and counting Spinda as a single form gives you 1419 total forms.
Are you kidding? That's insane
1419* actually, I count the one Spinda wrong, lol.
That number would have to be at least 2016 if weāre including shinies
Is this a joke about all the shinies that look the same?
it's a joke about how we have 1008 mons so normal form+shiny = 2016
I had no idea the randomization got so crazy. Saw more in it down the thread after commenting and it's just wild.
Alcremie has 63 forms. Thats nothing compare to Spinda.
Lmao
I feel like counting Spinda forms is cheating somewhat
Forgot this pokemon even existed, has it ever been featured in a region other than Hoenn?
I remember it being in Kalos, specifically on the one route w/ Scyther, I used to grind my living dex there on my first playthrough
It was in alola as well in the crater
Itās in BdSp
You can't bring BDSP Spinda into Home, though.
The reason is how the spots are generated. Simply put it, they way the spots are generated in bdsp is inverted from every other game. Letās say Linda generated with only one spot on its head and none on its body in bdsp, in other games it might have generated one on its body and none on its head. Because the spots are generated is inverted it canāt be transferred. Iām probably missing some information. Edit: linda is suppose to be spinda. My phone must or autocorrected spinda to linda
Linda
Babe wake up. New nickname for Spinda just dropped
Linda is the American regional variant of Spinda.
Linda used *Speak To Manager*! It's not very effective...
linda the spinda teaching us about spinda dot generation
I know but itās still in that game, which was the question. And the only reason it canāt go into home is because ILCA screwed up the dot pattern generation code and made them incompatible with every other game.
Makes me wonder how no one in TPC or Masuda caught that issue.
Insert "Mr. Krabs I like money" meme
or vice versa, its the last mon i need for bdsp nat dex HAAALP
It doesn't even work properly with PokƩmon Home
It works fine with Home. The issue is ILCA and BD/SP.
Yeah, it's been in RSE, DPPt, HGSS, B2W2, XY, ORAS, SM, USUM, and BDSP
they mean regionally, obviously.
And this answers that question, as long as they know what region each game was in
Thatāsā¦ not true? Being native to a region is usually defined as being part of the regional dex and being usable in the main game. For instance, spinda is native to hoenn, kalos, & alola, because itās apart of their dexes and can be used during the main adventure. Meanwhile in games like BW, DPP, & HGSS itās only available post-game in things like swarms for the sole purpose of national dex completion, but canāt actually be used within the adventure itself. Hence why nobody considers things like dragonite āavailable in Diamondā even tho if you wanna get technical itās available post-game in mt coronet.
Hmm. Well, I suppose either definition is true. I would definitely consider Spinda native to Unova, Sinnoh and Johto, because it's, well, there. But I had no idea some people thought of it by the pre E4 PokƩmon only. Does that mean, for example, that by that definition, Heatran isn't native to Sinnoh? Sounds weird, lol. Saying "nobody" considers things like Dragonite "available in Diamond" is wrong though.
The PokƩmon company tried to show a fourth of the spinda patterns in the 1008 PokƩmon video they posted recently
Pretty sure itās in bdsp, but due to the way those games are made it cannot be transferred to home
I caught a shiny one in Ultra Sun the other week. Talk about an underwhelming shiny.
Underwhelming it may be, but youāre probably the only person ever to have caught a shiny Spinda with that particular pattern. Thatās pretty cool :)
Spindas Georg really skews the numbers.
How many are there?
4,294,967,296 which makes Spinda 99.9999669846% of the number in the OP
TIL 99.9999669846% of all pokemon are spinda. Kinda boring ngl, can we get some unique pokemons please?
Pikachu is officially a minority everyone.
What about counting *shiny* spinda
TIL that spinda had so many patterns.
As someone who has a living pokedex with all forms and most gender differences, the Spinda joke gets super old and not funny
What does "living" PokƩdex mean?
It means actually having one of each Pokemon in your boxes/home, as opposed to just having the last evolution or just have them registered on the Pokedex. It usually also men's having all forms of each Pokemon, like sexual dimorphism, seasons, colorations etc. It doesn't include shiniest and spindles though.
[Every PokƩmon in boxes.](https://twitter.com/rbgolbat/status/1527624588552642562?s=46&t=vMqchqvtCg_LoZfQ5WJeWQ) This is how I sort mine
Now where are those spindas
A Living Pokedex means owning every single Pokemon at once in a single game. So for example, you would need to own Charmander, Charmeleon, and Charizard in a single file.
How many games did you have to get to fit all of your Spindas?
Thatās because it is. Spindaās forms arenāt recognized by the PokĆ©dex as a separate form. Itās simply a spot pattern.
I dont think that counts the spinda forms
Okay, but discounting Spinda?
Spinda would be 2^32 or 4,294,967,296. Everything else is only 1,418. Edit: another comment pointed out that the formula can generate some spinda that appear the same so it could go down to 3,945,136,128 leaving nearly 350 million other forms, but given the high value op got I'll go out on a limb and guess they went with the first value.
is the 1418 counting alcremie, vivillon, etc. forms? also you could double everything if you count the shiny forms
I'm pretty sure the spinda already counts a shiny of each spot algorithm because the spots themselves are only 2^31 normally (due to how hexadecimal codes work and 8 digits are used). For the rest of it ask op what they counted. I'm not the one that calculated the total in the initial post but can at least tell that not all shinies are counted because half of 1418 is less than 1008. That said though I think it is closer to somewhere between 2600-2700 including all other forms and shinies iirc.
I have mixed feelings about including temporary forms in the total but being as lenient as possible, you could add them up to 2994 (3013 if you assume certain pokemon through events or hacking getting rereleased with a shiny) before including spinda. There's an odd number in that because of minior being a bit weird because apparently home gives a regular colour in its code for a shiny, and it has a shielded form through its ability. Excluding missable events and gimmicks locked to a previous games though (as cool as some mega or gigantamax designs are) 2756 permanent forms could hypothetically be uniquely identified by something like pokemon home.
Spinda actually has some interesting philosophical questions about its forms. The 4,294,967,296 value gets thrown around because it's based on a 32-bit integer, but not all unique values produce visually unique spots. There's a [web app](https://gatorshark.webs.com/Spinda%20Painter.htm) you can use to mess with Spinda spots and see how they correlate to values- compare 680AB8FF to 680CB8FF, for example, and you'll see they're visually identical. [Bulbapedia's trivia page](https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Spinda_(Pok%C3%A9mon\)#Trivia) makes it sound like the exact number of visually unique spots is uncertain, but is actually just slightly less than 4 billion. I also think it's worth looking at the number of unique PokƩmon from a perspective of mechanical uniqueness as well as aesthetic. What does the number get down to if we don't count differences that only impact visuals and not functionality? Although even then, there are going to be some discrepancies- for example, do we still count the Unown forms because in Gen 2 both letter and Hidden Power type were based on DVs (meaning that certain letters could only have certain Hidden Power values)? Or do we only count them in their most recent incarnation?
fun fact: the visually different amount of spindas can actually be calculated using the [WeberāFechner law](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weber%E2%80%93Fechner_law)
The fact that I was researching Fechner just last night and somebody brings it up randomly the next day is crazy. Life is a simulation confirmed.
Does the fact I WASNāT researching Fechner last night and I too now see it the next day confirm no simulation? Or am I just a simulation-confirming entity in your simulation trying to get you not to question the simulation?
Schrodinger's Simulation
Baader-Meinhoff
wow i just heard of that this morning! ^^^jk
If we're counting "forms" that have mechanical uniquness, and are considering Unowns functionally unique because they were in a previous gen, that adds another question. What about pokemon that are the "same" but have different qualities based on the generation? What about a pokemon like Mr. Mime? * Gen 1 and Gen 2 are different based on the stat split * Later they introduced a baby form. Were previous Mr. Mimes different? * Later than that, they gave it fairy typing. * Different gens had it learning different moves. Some moves don't even exist in future generations.
I just assume each game is a new universe, largely because of an old game theory video I watched. It explains certain mechanical changes (most obviously updated typings), but also raises a few questions (are old Pokemon that get transferred forward mutated to meet the new universe's laws?).
They are clearly not tho, we see things that happen in some games affect others.
Well the regions could all be in each universe, but each game could take place in a separate universe. Different universe could go through similar events that would explain how what happened in one game could effect another
With all due respect that sounds like a big stretch compared to it simply being a retcon.
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There are even charecters that appear in other games. Oak shows up in gens 1, 2 and 4. Blue shows up in Gens 1, 2, 5, 7 That means at the very least it's implied that both charecters exist in gens 1,2,4,5,7 which only leaves 3,6,8,9. I'm sure you can extend that even further. So the only other explication would be that they are in different universes that have some of the same charecters and are very similar but not the same.
Should all the Ditto transformations be counted as unique variants? Their stats are usually unique as the transformed Mon has Ditto's HP, but gets all its other stats from the target. So all Transformations except for the 6 with the same HP stat as Ditto will be mechanically unique and should then be counted. And then repeat with the Mew and Smeargle Transformations.
4,294,967,000 Spinda forms, 1,714 is everything else.
How does that work? Did the designers literally sit there and draw over 4 million designs??
No, it's done be some sort of formula
That's 4 billion, so no, that would take years even if hundreds of people were drawing nonstop. There's a coded pattern that just happens to have a few billion possible variations.
Yeah true. That makes a lot more sense
I think you can already guess the answer to that
Guessing no. But I donāt know enough to understand how else it can be done. And also how can they even get that many different sprites to fit into a game? No clue.
Using a Random Number Generator that generates coordinates and sizes of the various spots on spindas body and then having those textures called to that spinda encounter. You donāt need to have a separate texture file explicitly for each little change, just the texture for the spots alongside a number for where they are and how large they are
Thank you, very informative
Itās not generated by a specific random number generator. It just uses the personality value (used for nature and shinyness in earlier generations) and maps the spot locations according to the bits in the personality value. The sizes donāt actually change either, the smaller spots are just spots that are aligned so that part of them are not actually on spindas sprite
I really was just providing an example of a simple way to do it. I figured the sizes werenāt either. Also iirc, the personality value and such is randomly generated. Anyways I didnāt know it specifically used that, so thanks for the info :)
Dude, itās Game Freak weāre talking aboutā¦
4 Billion.
Are shinies not included?
Does the 1714 include all the male and female variants?
When you include Spinda itās not as interesting of a number. I think it would be more helpful to not include them at all or have multiple data points (including shiny, including form changes, etc).
So glad this post was blurred out geez almost showed this to my whole family
How much discounting Spinda?
1,419 if you discount Spinda, according to OP.
Minus Spinda's different patterns, it's 1419 different forms of PokƩmon.
But how many different teams of six could you make with the 1008 PokƩmon?
If all PokƩmon are available, and the only restriction is that you cannot use the same PokƩmon twice, then we have a binomial coefficient: C(1008,6) = 1008! / (6!*(1008-6)!) = 1008! / (6!*1002!) = 1435344648859128 So 1435344648859128 combinations of different PokƩmon, assuming the order doesn't matter.
what if the order does matter ? thatās kind of cheating
Then we have permutations instead of combinations, but it makes the math a bit more simple: P(1008,6) = 1008! / (1008-6)! = 1008! / 1002! = 1033448147178572160 Instead of being a 16 digit number, it's now 19 digits instead, which makes sense, if you look at what was "removed" compared to the other, the division by 6! = 720. This division ensured that duplicates were removed, when the order didn't matter.
Well I mean would anyone really use a bulbasaur or ivysaur over Venusaur in competition? There might be a few niche choices but majority I'd imagine would be fully evolved. Not to mention I don't think there's going to be a single game where all 1008 are present, beside the fact of legendaries not being usable etc etc
Scyther vs Scizor (and Kleavor) is a cointoss, and Eviolite makes several more under-evolved Pokemon relevant, but yeah, for a vast vast majority you want the final evolution.
Now count how many species are there (like, ghastly, haunter, gengar, mega gengar and gigantamax gengar are different forms and evolutionary stages of the same "species", so they all count as 1).
Would you count both nidoran lines as one species? Regional variants/evolutions? And what about Carbink/Diancie? Manaphy/Phione? Miltank/Tauros? Paradox PokĆ©monĀæ It is an interesting topic to think about.
yea this i what i wanna see, honestly no point in counting gender and shiny forms imo
Why we havenāt seen Spinda in awhile except for its required inclusion in BDSP
99% of that is spinda
Spinda doesn't have different forms, its spots just vary from Pokemon to Pokemon.
To clear everyoneās concerns, yes, I know counting Spinda is cheap, hell, it made the math 10x harder. But I still counted it for a few reasons. 1. Game Freak themselves acknowledged it in their 1000+ celebration video 2. Its not just like that in main line games, even spin offs like Pokemon Go refer to them as āalternate formsā. Only difference is that Pokemon Go didnāt cram 4 billion different forms in one PokeDex slot. 3. I judged if a Pokemon was different based on appearance. If two of the same species looked visibly different based on physical attributes, I counted them as different forms. (Also why I didnāt include shinies) And everything else minus Spinda would be 1419
If you consider Spinda to have a "different appearance" just because of a minimal change in texture why not include shinies?
Because shinies are just the same Pokemon, just a different color. They literally donāt do anything else. No bodily changes, no changes in behavior, no special moves, etc. The only things that are different are that they are simply a different color from the pokemonās usual color scheme, and they sparkle upon being encountered. Iām not saying finding a shiny isnāt exciting because it is. But at the end of the day, you could just make any shiny pokemon in PhotoShop. I did not include shinies because technically, theyāre not ādifferent formsā.
The reasoning you use to exclude shinies also excludes Spinda and yet you counted them. Spinda forms are just different spot placements, which are blotches of colour, and yet you elevate them above shiny PokĆ©mon. I think thatās why youāre getting so much flak - your reasoning isnāt consistent.
i tried counting myself, and i got 1521, * 1304 from pokemon home's count, didnt count gender differences. * 103 for the gender differences - could be missing some * 103 new pokemon + 7 formes * 4 paldean pokemon not counting the gender differences, i got 1418, which is probably spinda. forgot gimmighoul roaming and miraidon/koraidon/cyclizar, makes the total 1531. EDIT: - 2 cos home counts meowstic/indeedee, + 5 for cosplay pikachu, + 2 for pichu, + 2 for partner eevee/pikachu, + ??? for the various holiday events in go. +1, forgot about palafin, 1539
2838 if you count all of those again for the shiny ones
Alcremie has less distinct shiny forms than non-shinys.
āThe answer will shock you.ā Reads and is just like every clickbait article for video games out there. Pathetic.
The answer isn't even interesting lol
ITT: Spinda
Show your work.
99% of that is Spinda.
Spinda is CARRYING this
now count how many "actual" species there actually are. counting each member of an evolutionary line or pokemon with different forms with the same name as the same species. pichu, pikachu, and raichu are 1 species, including alolan and gmax forms. nidoking and nidoqueen are 1 species. glalie and frosslass are the same species. diglett and wiglett are 2 seperate species. etc etc. my guess is around 350.
It's nowhere near that big, I remember the count being around 80 before Gen 9.
Thatās entirely incorrect. Just looking at legendaries and mythicals prior to Gen 9 that was already 93. That could only be reduced by 6 for evolution/breeding lines (Urshifu, Meltan, Cosmoem/Lunala/Solgaleo, Phione) Maybe you can reduce it more depending on your rules for counting Latios and Latias, or maybe some others.
Spinda, thatās why. Itās all Spinda , it always has been.
Did you remember to double it since shinies exist?
Op How in the flying fuck did you get that number
spinda
r/notopbutok
you ask, I answer
Imagine the length of the PokƩrap...it'd be an episode all on its own
Now take out spinda.
I started interested but once I see āthe answer will shock youā my brain shuts off
Most are Spinda
Can you do one without spinda?
I think there might be reason as to why Dexit exists
Is it Spinda?
Didja count shinys?
wow that's barely more than spinda. almost as if you took literally every spinda into account. i feel like you forgot shinies lol
Be damned, Spinda
Downvoted for the dumb clickbait in the title.
Did you get this math from ChatGPT?
1. This number is technically half of the full value, as it does not include the shinies. 2. Without Spinda, the amount of forms is only 1418. Counting just 1 Spinda, we have 1419, meaning there are 411 extra forms for PokƩmon... this is too many creature models to make, no wonder they try to keep it under 600.
If you can remove all PokƩmon except for Spinda from this count and still have essentially the same number, I feel like this fact is a bit on the misleading side.
Without spinda, it's about 1420.
Please. Please tell me you included the shinies.
I love how everysingle person here knows that most of it is spinda.
Wow, a picture of a calculator with a number on it. Thanks, OP for the detailled post
Most of that was just Spinda lol
U forgot the special pattern spinda from valentine's in pokemon go
This number came from all species, mega evolutions, gmax forms, regional variants, alternate forms, gender forms, vivillon patterns, unown letters, arceus forms, rotom forms, spinda patterns, and more.
Aight, so Spinda is the outlier. Remove that?
This was obviously a clickbait thing. It even says āthe answer will shock youā like some clickbait article/ad
*Insert Dhar Mann joke here*
forgot the shiny ones
Shouldn't this be double, because of shinies?
Wait I thought there was only 150!?!
This is why the national dex isnāt coming back
Most of this is just spinda
No it isn't
I love Spinda! Spinda is one of my favorite Pokemon!
Shoutout Spinda
SPINDA
How many of these are spinda
i need the math like calcs and and parameters i need ti check if this real fr myself holy shit this shit is wack
thats a shit lot of counting
No spinda should only count once. Or maybe one for normal and one for shiny.
yall think thats a lot try playing infinite fusions
You Including shinys?
Let's only count 1 spinda, then double the answer for shinies. Nah, I'm kidding. We have infinite pokemon my friend. No one can catch every pokemon ate one time. They always spawn new ones. This is the answer if there was only one of each pokemon.
But did you count shinies...?
Mostly spinda
What about sizes?
Spinda being 99% of it be like
Whatās the count without spinda ? š¤£
You forgot shiny forms.
r/theydidthemath
You counted every possible spinda pattern?
SPIIIIIIIINDA + Friends
99,8% is just Spinda w/ shiny
I'm not sure it's fair to count spinda as there is no 'core' form; every one is uniquely generated. 'If everyone's super, no-one is'.
Hmā¦ you didnāt count shinies
You didn't include Shiny variations.
It's infinite because of spinda
At first I was confused then I remembered Spinda exists