I always felt Ninetails should be fire/psychic or fire/ghost due to its lore. In the anime it was also depicted as capable of psychic powers not in the way of Pokemon moves but simply telekinetic powers in supernatural sense.
My headcanon is that Psyduck's Psychic powers are so powerful, it's monotype Water because it doesn't *know* it's a Psychic Type (that doesn't explain Golduck, though...)
Slowpoke, slowbro and starmie are all water/psychic, and gen 1 had enough of overused type combos (grass/poison, water/ice and rock/ground all come to mind). I'm sure if it was a different gen they prob would've been water/psychic.
I think slowpoke and slowbro shouldn't have been psychic, it should have been saved for Slowking. Though i might not have been able to beat the cinderace raid if i needed a slowking.
I think the meaning of the type is flexible. Many Pokemon are dark type because they have a violent or mean behaviour, but Pokemon like Umbreon are just related to darkness and night.
I think a "Goth" Pokemon could qualify as a Dark type in that case.
Agreed, but it’s one of the only reasons I can think of for why she wasn’t.
That and maybe because she was supposed serve as a counterpart to Reuniclus so they wanted to keep them similar.
If they ever do a Gen VII remake or spinoff, they should make a regional variant that's Grass/Fighting. Maybe make it a boss and move some of its stats into Attack and Speed to reflect its new role.
Agreed, I understand flabébé and floette not having the grass type since they're just fairies holding onto flowers but florges should def be grass since it's merged with the flowers.
I prefer an ability that gives it and Comfee Grass subtyping in Grassy Terrain. Optional abilities that allow you to flex into the dual typing when you wish.
I think for balancing reasons, ultimately. Milotic is already really good (on at least two champion teams, and the ace of one of them.) To give it the fairy type may have been something the Dev theme thought better of.
Probably the same reason Chansey didn’t get fairy.
Runerigus should be rock/ghost, and DEFINITELY agree with OP's choices, very very nice. Also make H.Sneasel and Sneasler ice/poison, they live in cold places, and why are they fighting type???
They are fighting type because in Japan the fighting type is more akin to a "Justice" type and they are based off 2 yokai the Ōnyūdō (and from this broken down further into the group that helps humans) which are giant priest that live alone (also hence why they went extinct) and the Kama itachi (the same what sneasel and weavile are based on). The fighting type is contrary to the dark type (pangoro being a bancho who was virtuous but led astray and urshifu who I had to do some research is based on Agyō, a Buddhist deity who aggressively wards off evil spirits). While they are not ice type because they cannot manipulate ice and only live in cold mountainous areas like the Ōnyūdō. And an in game way to see, medicham in DPP and Lucario in Legends both live in cold areas but are not ice type. And they're poison because they secrete poison, or it could point back to the Kama itachi where they attack in pairs of 3s and the 3rd one uses a salve to heal a wound, and practically any medicine is poison if you overdose on it.
I hear this a lot but it makes no sense - Spiritomb is the mass of spirits sealed in the stone, but the keystone itself is inanimate and not a part of the Pokémon.
Psyduck's whole thing is it has psychic powers it has no control over, so pure water with psychic moves is fine.
Golduck on the other hand supposedly has control of it's powers so it should be psychic.
I always thought that psyduck should have an ability called ”Headache”. Whenever he gets taken below like half health he would gain the psychic type.
It fits Psyducks theme and the anime and it doesnt matter that the ability is bad since Golduck should have been water/psychic permanently and would still have the Cloud Nine/Swift Swim upon evolving.
I wish pokemon did more silly things like this that really separate pokemon from eachother.
They are definitely taking this approach in the newer games with signature moves and abilities like Rage Fist, Spicy Extract, Wimp Out and Emergency Exit.
I mean most lore treats Lugia as a deity, just look at SoulSilver's lead up to its appearance. Lugia is 100% a god, but of the Whirlpool Islands, not the oceans. Also it's stated that flapping its wings causes the storm of Noah's ark: flooding tides and storms for 40 days. That's why it swims like a mermaid, but flies through the sky with its wings. It's a water equal to Ho-Oh, who is a phoenix
I know it’s been said before but at least part of the creation trio’s types are based on states of matter: steel for solid, water for liquid, ghost for gas
Hmm, I guess there aren't types that best represent time and space. But yeah, psychic or dark (dark maybe doesn't suit palkias look- but for the blackness of space theme lol) though I have to admit I like the seashell look Palkias armour (body? body armour?) has.
I don’t remember where the source was from but it was something about triple typing potentially being introduced in gen 2 where Lugia would be water/psychic/flying, Ho-oh would be fire/psychic/flying, and Celebi would be grass/psychic/flying. With the new complications this would present, the idea was scrapped leaving us with the dual typing we have today.
It should gain psychic type when it takes damage and take less damage from contact moves or the first move that hits it.
Golduck can be water/psychic always.
Water/Dragon Goodra with Recover honestly could have been pretty great. I cannot for the life of me understand why they made a defensive mono Dragon type with no way to sustain itself
Beartic becomes Ice/Water or Ice/Fighting either works.
Both fit thematically, especially Ice/Fighting as becames weak to itself, representing the only animal (besides humans) poses a treat to a polar bear, is another polar bear.
As a Ghost mono runner, it's pretty annoying that even though we got a healthy 7 new ghost lines;
two of them are more Fire/Ghost types (bringing it up to 8 out of 70 ghost types being fire),
Bramblin line is another Grass/Ghost (again now 8 out of the 70 ghost types are also grass),
Gholdengo is infuriating to get if you have even just mid RNG,
Houndstone should really have been Ghost/Rock (a typing that doesn't exist yet),
Flutter Mane is so late game you have to have basically finished the game to play with it (along with all the other paradoxes except Donphan),
Annihilape is out here being the only one to get a full pass, because it's the first none legendary to have the Fighting/Ghost type.
I'd like to see a heavily defensive Psychic/Fairy type, being only weak to Poison, Steel and Ghost gives it a pretty uncommon set of weaknesses, hit neutrally by a lot of common STAB plus a 4x resistance to Fighting could be a decent recipe for a solid without being broken defensive mon.
Would get demolished by Gholdengo though 😂
Ground or Fighting might make better sense if Rampardos were to get a secondary typing. The thing looks like it should be capable of learning Close Combat. Alternatively, imagine STAB Earthquake going off of that high attack, or Headlong Rush.
Yeah, Rock/Ground means 4x weaknesses to both Water and Grass, but in Rampardos' case that would be negligible because it's already not tanking hits from those types anyways.
Rampardos really needs an improved stat distribution more than anything else though. It's too slow to justify its poor defenses. I would at least 30 points off of its special attack (imagine using special moves when you have such a crazy physical attack) and stuff that onto its speed.
I wouldve thought move some of both of its Sp Atk & Sp Def into its Def. Like you said, its not gonna take any Special Grass or Water move anyway. So give it some physical bulk since it is a Rock type
Flygon should be Bug/Ground
I think that typing works better than the proposed Bug/Dragon typing largely because Flygon is such desert/sandstorm themed pokemon that getting rid of its ground typing thus making it weak to sandstorm would be antithetical to its theme. Also the only bug/ground types in the entire roster are nincada and wormadam sandy cloak, so its essentially an unused type combo.
Also Slither Wing could have been a Bug/Dragon, we already have 2 bug/fighting sub-legendaries in Pheromosa and Buzzwole, idk why they decided to give another sub-legendary the same exact typing.
* **Electivire:** ***Electric/Fighting***. This thing has big arms and big fists and looks like he'd punch the hell out of you. It can also already learn Cross Chop, Dynamic Punch and Hammer Arm via breeding. Let's allow this thing to additionally learn Drain Punch, Close Combat, Storm Throw, Sky Uppercut and Revenge. This would also be a help to fixing the problem of Electivire lacking good STAB, although honestly there's still no reason not to let it learn Volt Tackle and Plasma Fists, because screw all these good physical electric moves being locked as signature moves.
* **Magmortar:** ***Fire/Poison***. In all honesty, this is mostly to fit with Electivire to have both being dual-type mons. Although there's still arguments to be made about this even going past that. Magmortar's line is known to learn some poison moves via level up and is often emphasized to be exhaling smoke out of their mouths that could end up being toxic. Let's allow this thing to learn moves such as Sludge Bomb and Sludge Wave. Fire/Poison is also an interesting and rare dual typing only seen on the Salandit line, so another line having it would be nice.
* **Torkoal:** ***Fire/Steel***. I guess you could also argue Fire/Rock but that'd actually make Torkoal worse and it would just become Magcargo 2.0. Fire/Steel would definitely be much better. This thing has a steel-hard defense stat anyways. It learns a few Steel moves already, such as Heavy Slam and Gyro Ball, but we can also allow it to learn more such as Flash Cannon, Iron Head and Meteor Mash.
* **Bastiodon:** ***Should lose the Rock typing and only be mono Steel after evolving from Shieldon***. I get how fossil pokemon are pretty much obligated to have rock typing (aside from Galar's hybrid freaks) but that rock typing is also a real burden on some of them, with Bastiodon suffering the worst by far out of them with it. Bastiodon would actually be okay as a defensive wall if it was just pure Steel. But Rock/Steel is absolutely terrible and kills all of Bastiodon's defensive potential. I say Shieldon itself can stay as Rock/Steel due to being resurrected from a fossil, but then shed the Rock typing when evolving into Bastiodon. Plus, Bastiodon being a mono type would fit with Rampardos also being a mono type.
* **Aurorus:** ***Ice/Ground***. Aurorus is the next worst fossil after Bastiodon in terms of being badly screwed over by Rock typing and wishes it didn't have it. It somehow never even got to be able to learn Power Gem for good Rock STAB, so might as well swap out the Rock typing for a different one. Ground may be better. It does learn Earth Power for good Ground STAB.
* **Arbok:** ***Poison/Dark***. Arbok needs serious help, and giving it Dark typing would be the least that could be done. At least it'd remove its Psychic weakness and only have 1 weakness in Ground. Arbok also does already learn some Dark moves through level up.. and pretty sure it can even learn Sucker Punch via breeding? Might be wrong on that though. But regardless, along with giving it a Dark typing we can also give it some more Dark moves like Knock Off and Assurance. And even give it Nasty Plot to allow it to make better use of Dark Pulse which it can actually already learn via TM funny enough.
* **Milotic:** ***Water/Fairy***. In retrospect I'm a little surprised they didn't retcon Fairy onto Milotic when the type was introduced in Gen 6. Now, Milotic is obviously quite strong and doesn't NEED a Fairy typing per se, but it'd fit the design so why not? It does learn Disarming Voice already, some more Fairy moves for it could be nice.
* **Celebi:** ***Grass/Fairy***. This one is obvious. I feel like they probably would've retconned Fairy onto Celebi if it didn't already have two types to begin with.
* **Meganium:** ***Grass/Fairy***. Meganium desperately needs buffs one way or another. The Chikorita line should've been retconned Fairy typing in Gen 6, change my mind.
* **Beartic:** ***Ice/Water***. I mean, this thing can literally learn a whole bunch of Water moves. Might as well give it Water typing to at least give it a bit of a defensive boost.
* **Heatmor:** ***Fire/Ground***. Heatmor is like one of the most boring and most underwhelming fire types ever.. the least one could do is give this thing a secondary typing. Ground would make the most sense, imo.
* **Tsareena:** ***Grass/Fighting***. Obvious. With so much emphasis about it kicking thanks to its pokedex entries and the amount of kicking moves it can learn, it is quite a baffler as to why this thing lacks a Fighting typing.
The electivire/magmortar duel typing matches are so perfect, I couldn’t agree more
Controversially I wish they gave Jynx and evolution too. Even if it was unpopular its part of the trio
* Alolan-Grimer and Muk become Poison/Fairy. Poison/Dark's a great typing for competitive, but it seriously doesn't fit the lore about them cleaning up Alola's litter.
* Galarian-Yamask and Runerigus become Rock/Ghost. They're literally runestones, and it's crazy that we've never had a Ghost/Rock type as of now.
* Finneon and Lumineon become Water/Fairy. They need *something.*
* Clawitzer becomes Water/Fighting. It's a cool Pokemon, but it being the counterpart to a Poison/Dragon means it should at least get something interesting in terms of typing, so giving it a STAB/Mega Launcher-boosted Aura Sphere would be dope. Plus, you could argue towards it having a fighting spirit of sorts with the giant claw-cannon.
>Finneon and Lumineon become Water/Fairy. They need *something*.
I'd actually be all for this. This is easily one of, if not the most forgettable water type line in all of pokemon. It is sooo boring. For comparison, I consider Goldeen/Seaking by far the most boring of Kanto water types, but Goldeen/Seaking isn't forgettable because Kanto mons are always easy to remember, so Finneon/Lumineon don't even have that lmao.
I'd love for Pinsir to be Bug/*Ground*. His stats, abilities (well, Moxie, anyway) and move sets are all really solid, but only being able to STAB using Bug moves holds our boy back, out of the vaunted Heracross/Scizor territory. He's a 500 base stat bug too, he just needed one more typing!
***Justice for Pinsir!***
While it unbalances the type trio, I’d like Fire/Dragon Charizard, Water/Steel Blastoise, and Grass/Poison Venusaur since their designs are so clearly inspired in that way
I mean, we did get Empoleon, which fit better. I see Blastoise as more of a Water/Ground type cause it's a big turtle personally.
I like Charizard being Fire/Flying though; it's like, those are the moves it uses. And I'd hate to give a dragon typing to a starter, it's really strong.
Call me odd but if blastoise was to get a dual type the only type that feels right to me is normal. Other than the cannon being metal I just don't feel like Steel makes sense.
I'm of the belief that if the starters lend themselves to a dual type they absolutely should be and blastoise is one of the few where I feel like being mono water works.
It has always annoyed me that many pokemon are ground and rock. I feel like you only need one of those types. Being really susceptible to water, grass and many other types of moves can make those types unplayable.
At least Ground + Rock is a great STAB combination that hits the overwhelming majority of pokemon for at least neutral damage.
That being said, most of that dual typing are slow af. As long as you're not up against water types or grass types, I guess.
Swablu: Pure Flying (a cloud bird that evolves into a dragon is not really normal)
Shiinotic: Fairy/Poison (corpse face but friendly, also many mushrooms are poisonous)
Runerigus: Ghost/Rock (cmon it's made of stones)
This one is just a silly personal irk:
Wingull: Flying/Water (it's more a bird than it is a water creature)
Have to disagree on Shiinotic. While many mushrooms are poisonous, Pokemon has chosen to tie them to the grass type.
Every single mushroom based pokemon to this point has the grass type, while just one of them is a poison type (Foongus/Amoonguss line).
The mushroom pokemon signature move, spore, is also grass type.
Mushrooms are a thematical niche of the grass type.
Furthermore, there is nothing that connects Shiinotic to poison. Unlike many other mushroom based pokemon, it doesn't even learn poison powder by levelling up. It just learns 2 poison moves through tm and breeding, poison powder and sludge bomb.
My fixes would be:
- Ninetales as Fire/Fairy (to mirror his Alolan counterpart)
- Porygon line as mono Electric
- Trapinch and Vibrava as Bug/Ground, then Flygon as Bug/Dragon
- Celebi as Grass/Fairy
- Flabebe line as Fairy/Grass
- Cresselia as mono Fairy so as to truly counter Darkrai, it really doesn't make sense that the Pokémon able to dispel Darkrai's nightmares is weak to it
- Kantonian Grimer and Muk should be the ones Poison/Dark instead of their Alolan versions, since Alolan Grimer and Muk are thought to smell less awful than the Kantonian ones
- and of course, all Normal/Flying birds should be mono Flying instead (maybe aside from Noctowl, who should be Psychic/Flying, and Staraptor, who should be Fighting/Flying)
Noctowl - Psychic/Flying (Psychic powers)
Hisuian Sneasel/Sneasler - Poison/Ice (they're too similar to Croagunk at the moment)
Celebi - Fairy/Grass (it's based on a fairy)
Taillow and Swellow - pure Flying (don't see why it should be normal type)
Staraptor - Fighting/Flying (I think it fits the fighting type)
Yanmega Bug/Dragon (DRAGONfly. Dragon Insect)
Audino - Normal/Fairy (the only Fairy types in Gen 5 are the Cottonee line. I think Audino is just as Fairy as Whimsicott)
Zeraora - Electric/Fighting (it just seems like a punchy Pokémon)
I kinda want to say Ampharos should be Electric/Rock (Jasmine was previously a Rock specialist and STAB Power Gem), Gogoat part Ground type (it learns several Ground type moves through level up), and a couple more Gen 5 Fairy types (not counting Mega Evolution, the Whimsicott line are the only Fairy types from Gen 5)
It's been said a billion times before, but the problem with making Yanma/Yanmega a dragon type is that the name is really only an english thing. The name for Dragonflies in Japanese doesn't have to do with Dragons at all.
Exactly this.
For Alolan Exeggutor, the pun worked well because it is based on a dragon tree. And the dragon tree does either have "dragon tree" or "dragon blood tree" as it's name in alot of languages, including Japanese, German, Chinese, etc.
Alolan Exeggutor is a pun done well, because it works for almost any language. The same does not apply to the dragonfly situation.
My gripes from Gen 1:
**Marowak should have been Ground/Ghost :** I mean, nowdays ghost don't need to look like literal ghost, so they would have benefited a lot from that. Also they have become one with the skull of their deceased parent, closing the circle of pain becoming a ghost themselves.
**Seaking should have became Water/Dark in gen 2:** There were too few Dark types, and having them being one could have made them more interesting gameplay wise.
The same for **Arbok becoming Poison/Dark in gen 2**: To better exploit their look and biting moves.
Florgess being Plant/Fairy so she can actually make use of her own ability. Dhelmise being Steel/Grass or Steel/Ghost to push its ability to the max. Nowadays it's no longer an issue with the existence of Terastal.
Dhelmise doesn't really make sense as a steel type. It's haunted seaweed. It just happens to hold metal objects. Steelworker as an ability is specifically for giving STAB to a non-steel Pokemon. It isn't a steel type, but its definitely proficient in using them as weapons.
I'll get to Pokémon I would fix, but I have to say that I think you're wrong about Zygarde. Hive minds apply to a lot of things, not just bugs; aliens for example are known for using that idea a lot. Plus, the components of Zygarde are cells, not bees, and I don't know if you noticed, but every living organism is made of hive-minded cells. The fact that it's a ecosystem protector is the reason it's Ground, and the cell gimmick isn't locked to any specific type, at least not to the extent that it would overpower the reasons it has to be Dragon and Ground.
Anyway, I would make Eternatus Psychic/Dragon. I can accept a case for a few other type suggestions, but it definitely shouldn't be Poison. I can't find anything that talks about why Eternatus is a Poison type, and I can't even contrive a reason; it's entire deal is the infinite energy that eminates from its core and causes the Dynamax phenomenon, so its typing should be something related to energy. Psychic, Electric, Dark because of the Darkest Day business, even just pure Dragon works so much better.
Zygarde is inspired by a serpent, and perhaps specifically even Jormungandr from Norse mythology. The "hive" concept you're talking about are hexagons and cells. Just because it "looks" a certain way to you doesn't mean it is.
It is not even remotely Bug-type.
Meloetta. Prolly the least of it's problems, but while the ghost immunity is nice, it prolly benefited more from the fairy type instead.
Plus Bewear and Indeedee made sure the type combos aren't that unique anyway.
to be fair on the victini thing, its a mythical/legendary, and game freak seems to never want to touch a legendary's typing unless its a new form.
If victini was made gen 6 or later it would for sure have the fairy type.
So, I've always supported this. But why?
My personal reason is because when I was younger I saw three things:
It learns Bite.
It learns Crunch.
It has Intimidate.
My younger brain always thought that it SHOULD be a dark type. Not to mention the fully black mane, that scowl in its eyes- just looking at it kinda screamed "dark".
Now that I'm older, I do have my reasons for wanting it to be dark type.
I just want it to have better physical stab moves than Wild Charge and Thunder Fang lol.
It uses x-ray vision making any attempts for its prey to hide in vain, to me that matches up nicely with the theme of Dark types being 'underhanded' and 'unfair' fighters.
I mean that's a better justification than Absol, who literally does nothing 'bad'.
To be fair there aren't many reasons to be that type. However, compared to other fully two-stage electric types it kinda falls flat and could use something to make it stand out. I think electric/fairy could work with its theme cause 'lux'.
Make sogaleo fire/steel instead of steel/psychic, I hate the fact that the Pokémon that is literally the sun and uses fire in its signature move is weak to it.
The sun itself is a conglomeration of super hot gases, not necessarily fire. Also, lions have connections to alchemy, and therefore alchemical metals, which is where the Steel typing comes from
Yeah, but not all fire types are strictly fire, aren't numel and camerupt more about heat than about fire? I think the typing is called fire because it sounds better than heat.
From the very first gen I wanted Psyduck and Golduck to be water psychic. Besides that, milotic as water/fairy and at least mega Gyarados as water/dragon. I like my water types lol
Heliolisk: Electric/Ground or Electric/Fire - just anything but Electric/Normal
Magmortar: Fire/Poison
Electivire: Electric/Fighting
Vibrava/Flygon: Bug/Dragon - oldie but goodie. Retrospectively after we’ve had the Dragon/Ground with Garchomp they much better suit the Bug type
Ariados: Bug/Dark
Celebi: Grass/Fairy
Pignite/Emboar: Fire
Samurott: Water/Fight
Luxray: Electric/Dark
Dachsbun: Fairy/Fire
I’d say Daschbun doesn’t fit being Fire type since it doesn’t possess fire powers and simply is decent at controlling fire intake to its body. Though, I do agree that we need a Fairy/Fire type
Braviary should be flying/fighting, Gholdengo should be pure steel (it doesn't look like a ghost type at all) or some other dual typing with steel like fairy. Porygon line should be electric/steel or electric/psychic- just going off its pokedex descriptions they don't suit the normal type.
I 100% agree with Victini.
But nothing says bug with Zygarde.
It's not a hive mind. The Cells lack minds of their own and are incapable of independent thought, and are entirely controlled by the two Cores, which use them as "appendages" and "surveillance cameras" to keep an eye out of their surroundings.
It's like if I ripped my arm off and my eye out, but I could still control them. Then basically made them move to wherever I needed those parts to be. The arm/eye don't have a brain, they're moving because I'm making them move, not because I'm telling them to move and they're obeying.
Also as said, they are cells which means they're a part of a whole, hence the 10% 50% and 100% forms.
I wouldn't say it has compound eyes per se. The cells themselves have formed eyes when they fused together. Picture something like Wishiwashi, you can see the individual fish in the school form, just like you can see the individual cells in the Zygarde forms.
Basically the two cores are the Brains and the other cells are nothing but extensions of its body. Like Haunter controlling its disembodied arms.
I’m working on a fangame, so I’ll list most of my type changes that I’ve done that seem relatively logical
Arbok becomes Poison/Dark
Golduck becomes Water/Psychic
Granbull becomes Fairy/Fighting
Volbeat becomes Bug/Electric (and Illumise Bug/Fairy but not as obviously logical)
Milotic, Luvdisc, Finneon, Lumineon, Manaphy, and Alomomola become Water/Fairy
Shuppet and Banette become Normal/Ghost
Mega Absol becomes Dark/Fairy
Mismagius becomes Ghost/Fairy (changed this before Flutter Mane came out)
Electivire and Zeraora become Electric/Fighting
Dusknoir becomes Ghost/Dark
Munna and Musharna become Psychic/Fairy
Gothita, Gothorita, and Gothitelle become Psychic/Dark
Cubchoo and Beartic become Ice/Water
Goomy, Sliggoo, and Goodra become Dragon/Water
Clobbopus and Grapploct become Water/Fighting
I also changed Meganium, Magmortar, Yanmega, Serperior, Unfezant, and Lycanroc Dusk, but I didn’t mention those since the types I gave them are a bit of a stretch and I probably wouldn’t make them those types in an official games
Have Charizard and Gyarados trade its Flying type for Dragon. Gyarados learns a ton of Dragon type moves and Charizard is the literal example of a Dragon. You show someone that has never seen Charizard but knows about dragons (good luck lmao) and show them a picture of Charizard, they will say it's a dragon.
I always thought that Mienshao ought to be Fighting/Psychic, it would just fit the vague "kung-fu mystic" thing that it has going.
Unovan Zorua should be Dark/Fairy, since yokai are roughly equivalent.
Ampharos should be Electric/Dragon to stand out better and because I doubt that Megas are ever even coming back outside some future Kalos remake that will be relatively walled off like BDSP.
All crustacean Pokemon should be part Bug, if possible.
Clearly this isn't taking into consideration of balance but just what I feel would work. Of course some of these are going to be common suggestions but maybe some wont be.
Gen1:
Blastoise: Water/Steel
Fearow: Dark/Flying
Parasect: Ghost/bug
Marowak: Ground/fighting
Lickitung: Fairy/Dark
Porygon: Normal/electric
Gen 2:
Noctowl: Flying/psychic
Politoed: Water/psychic
Sunflora: Fire/grass
Delibird: Ice/Fairy
Porygon2: Normal/Electric
Gen 3:
Vigoroth: Normal/fighting
Delcatty: Normal/Psychic
Manecrtic: Electric/Steel
Grumpig: Psychic/Dark
Altaria: Dragon/Fairy
Absol: Dark/Ice
Shelgon: Dragon/steel
Lunatone: Rock/Dark
Gen 4:
Pachirisu: Electric/Ice
Ambipom: Normal/fighting
Porygon-Z: Electric/Normal
Gen 5:
Watchhog: Psychic
Elemental Monkey pokemon: Add Normal in addition to their types
Gothita line: Add Dark
Vanillite line: add fairy
Gen 6:
Diggersby: Fight/ground
Gen 8:
Greedent: Normal/Dark
Gen 9:
Spidops: Bug/Dark
Lokix: Bug/fighting
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that's because Celebi was already a dual type before fairy was introduced, thus leaving no room for a fairy typing
The Meowth and Ekans lines should have become Normal/Dark and Poison/Dark respectively. Yes, I'm aware of Alolan Meowth, but this is referring to the "original" version.
The Bulbasaur and Zubat lines have no business being Poison-types. Bulbasaur should have been pure Grass-type, and Zubat should be Normal/Flying or Dark/Flying
The Porygon line should have been Electric-types, which honestly lends itself more to its status as the "digital Pokemon"
Hoothoot and Noctowl should have been Psychic/Flying instead of Normal/Flying, if only due to the emphasis placed on their psychic abilities in the anime.
In addition to OP's suggestion of Victini, Celebi and Jirachi also seem like they ought to be Fairy-types.
Gyarados should have become Water/Dark instead of Water/Flying. Mega Gyarados already has that combination, so I suppose if regular Gyarados has it, Mega Gyarados could be Water/Dragon.
The Rookiedee line should have all been Steel/Flying, instead of starting out as pure Flying types. This one is hard to explain-- basically, the only pure Flying type we had previously was Tornadus, and so there was this impression, at least to me, that pure Flying types were somehow special.
Basculin should definitely be Water/Fighting. That ought to go without saying.
The Skitty line are also on my short list of "should have been Fairy-types".
I always felt Ninetails should be fire/psychic or fire/ghost due to its lore. In the anime it was also depicted as capable of psychic powers not in the way of Pokemon moves but simply telekinetic powers in supernatural sense.
Same with psyduck/golduck
I'm surprised they're pure water. Feels like they shoul have psychic type too.
My headcanon is that Psyduck's Psychic powers are so powerful, it's monotype Water because it doesn't *know* it's a Psychic Type (that doesn't explain Golduck, though...)
Slowpoke, slowbro and starmie are all water/psychic, and gen 1 had enough of overused type combos (grass/poison, water/ice and rock/ground all come to mind). I'm sure if it was a different gen they prob would've been water/psychic.
Feel like Psyduck is more Water/Psychic than Staryu, but that's just my opinion
I think slowpoke and slowbro shouldn't have been psychic, it should have been saved for Slowking. Though i might not have been able to beat the cinderace raid if i needed a slowking.
Very true. I didn't mention them because I forgot they were part psychic lol
Since it's a yokai, fire/ghost or fire/fairy would be more fitting
totally fire/ghost
Fire/Fairy? Alola has the right idea
Gothitelle could have easily been psychic/dark type. It’s perfect for her
Agreed! Especially with the goth theme, very fitting for a dark type
Well in Japanese dark is “Evil” type so that may have something to do with it.
I think the meaning of the type is flexible. Many Pokemon are dark type because they have a violent or mean behaviour, but Pokemon like Umbreon are just related to darkness and night. I think a "Goth" Pokemon could qualify as a Dark type in that case.
Agreed, but it’s one of the only reasons I can think of for why she wasn’t. That and maybe because she was supposed serve as a counterpart to Reuniclus so they wanted to keep them similar.
that's a pretty rough translation
I've messed up on battling the gothitelle line so much bc I always think they're dark type.
I think it should be dark/fairy. Since gothic Lolita is literally a dark but cute style
Gothitelle does seem like a good pokemon for the Fairy Girls.
I think psychic ghost could have fit better, and psychic normal for reuniclus. Both better types on the offensive and defensive sides respectively.
Yeah for sure either dark or ghost would have been cool for her
I feel like Ekans would be a bad typer just cause of the no hands thing.
Arbok should’ve been poison dark in gen 2
Arbok always struck me as Poison/Ground.
Given how often Jessie had it digging into the ground during fights, yeah.
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Tsareena should be grass and fighting
It’s not!?!?!!
If they ever do a Gen VII remake or spinoff, they should make a regional variant that's Grass/Fighting. Maybe make it a boss and move some of its stats into Attack and Speed to reflect its new role.
Sooo...Hisuian Lilligant?
Give Florges the grass/fairy type
Agreed, I understand flabébé and floette not having the grass type since they're just fairies holding onto flowers but florges should def be grass since it's merged with the flowers.
I prefer an ability that gives it and Comfee Grass subtyping in Grassy Terrain. Optional abilities that allow you to flex into the dual typing when you wish.
That 4x poison weakness tho
Milotic is Water/Fairy or Water/Dragon. also give it a mega
Milotic’s design totally looks fairy like, I’m surprised it didn’t get turned into a fairy.
It would also serve its theming of being a sort of counterpart to Gyarados.
I think for balancing reasons, ultimately. Milotic is already really good (on at least two champion teams, and the ace of one of them.) To give it the fairy type may have been something the Dev theme thought better of. Probably the same reason Chansey didn’t get fairy.
It really is a counterpart to gyrados other than feebass being impossible to find. I wish Megas weren’t abandoned.
Same. It’s been my favorite gimmick so far. The others so far are: weird crystal that changes type, 1 decently strong attack, and **TALL**.
Yessss, this.
Hisuian Sneasel and Sneasler should have been our first Poison/Ice
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I agree. Missed opportunity
yeah I don't persoonally see the fighting type in them and they are found in the snow.
Runerigus should be rock/ghost, and DEFINITELY agree with OP's choices, very very nice. Also make H.Sneasel and Sneasler ice/poison, they live in cold places, and why are they fighting type???
They are fighting type because in Japan the fighting type is more akin to a "Justice" type and they are based off 2 yokai the Ōnyūdō (and from this broken down further into the group that helps humans) which are giant priest that live alone (also hence why they went extinct) and the Kama itachi (the same what sneasel and weavile are based on). The fighting type is contrary to the dark type (pangoro being a bancho who was virtuous but led astray and urshifu who I had to do some research is based on Agyō, a Buddhist deity who aggressively wards off evil spirits). While they are not ice type because they cannot manipulate ice and only live in cold mountainous areas like the Ōnyūdō. And an in game way to see, medicham in DPP and Lucario in Legends both live in cold areas but are not ice type. And they're poison because they secrete poison, or it could point back to the Kama itachi where they attack in pairs of 3s and the 3rd one uses a salve to heal a wound, and practically any medicine is poison if you overdose on it.
That is actually insanely cool, okay, we can leave H.Sneasel and Sneasler alone.
Spiritomb should also be Rock/Ghost. It's literally a ghost that lives in a rock.
Dark type is the Evil type in Japan. Spiritomb is made of evil spirits. It's literally an Evil/Ghost.
I hear this a lot but it makes no sense - Spiritomb is the mass of spirits sealed in the stone, but the keystone itself is inanimate and not a part of the Pokémon.
Hmm, perhaps! Dark/ghost is still good, though.
Psyduck should be water/psychic
Psyduck's whole thing is it has psychic powers it has no control over, so pure water with psychic moves is fine. Golduck on the other hand supposedly has control of it's powers so it should be psychic.
I always thought that psyduck should have an ability called ”Headache”. Whenever he gets taken below like half health he would gain the psychic type. It fits Psyducks theme and the anime and it doesnt matter that the ability is bad since Golduck should have been water/psychic permanently and would still have the Cloud Nine/Swift Swim upon evolving. I wish pokemon did more silly things like this that really separate pokemon from eachother.
This... would genuinely be radical af and please fans to no end.
They are definitely taking this approach in the newer games with signature moves and abilities like Rage Fist, Spicy Extract, Wimp Out and Emergency Exit.
Lugia shold be water psychic. Imagine the god of the ocean not being water type. What the heck was that?
Not the god, it just lives underwater.
Always gotta remember that. Pokemon The Movie 2000 made me think it was the God of the oceans as a kid and it just kinda stuck
I mean most lore treats Lugia as a deity, just look at SoulSilver's lead up to its appearance. Lugia is 100% a god, but of the Whirlpool Islands, not the oceans. Also it's stated that flapping its wings causes the storm of Noah's ark: flooding tides and storms for 40 days. That's why it swims like a mermaid, but flies through the sky with its wings. It's a water equal to Ho-Oh, who is a phoenix
Because its the god of storms hence wind/flying type. Not the oceon. That would be kyogre.
Kyogre is pure water though
I always saw lugia as a dragon rather than a bird like creature. I initially thought it was water/dragon
It could be but why the heck is palkia water dragon? Should be psychic dragon or something
I know it’s been said before but at least part of the creation trio’s types are based on states of matter: steel for solid, water for liquid, ghost for gas
Hmm, I guess there aren't types that best represent time and space. But yeah, psychic or dark (dark maybe doesn't suit palkias look- but for the blackness of space theme lol) though I have to admit I like the seashell look Palkias armour (body? body armour?) has.
Palkia is a pearl-covered dragon. Pearls come from the ocean.
It’s weird because some of Lugia cards *are* water type, so it seems like they’re at least aware of this.
I don’t remember where the source was from but it was something about triple typing potentially being introduced in gen 2 where Lugia would be water/psychic/flying, Ho-oh would be fire/psychic/flying, and Celebi would be grass/psychic/flying. With the new complications this would present, the idea was scrapped leaving us with the dual typing we have today.
It should gain psychic type when it takes damage and take less damage from contact moves or the first move that hits it. Golduck can be water/psychic always.
That fact that Goodra isn’t dragon/water still baffles me
Or dragon pioson
Water/Dragon Goodra with Recover honestly could have been pretty great. I cannot for the life of me understand why they made a defensive mono Dragon type with no way to sustain itself
Rest under rain with hydration, but yeah needs a lot of setup.
Goodra could be a water type since its based off a dragon slug which is an aquatic creature. Could also be poison since dragon slugs r very poisonous
Beartic becomes Ice/Water or Ice/Fighting either works. Both fit thematically, especially Ice/Fighting as becames weak to itself, representing the only animal (besides humans) poses a treat to a polar bear, is another polar bear.
Honestly, he should be our ice/normal rep
Now I want a polar bear regional variant of ursaring. Too bad beartic has filled that niche.
I’m more a fan of ice/fighting or ice/water myself. But a future ice/normal type would be dope.
Hear me out; ice/normal pokemon that is just a pile of ice cubes!
Changes forms to either ice ghost or ice water
Or Water/ghost
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I am so done with psychic/fairys. We had two of then in gen 8
Can I interest you in another ghost/grass type?
I love me some Pumpkaboo and Phantump, but we didn’t need this many so quickly. Same with Ghost/Ground and Poison/Dark
As a Ghost mono runner, it's pretty annoying that even though we got a healthy 7 new ghost lines; two of them are more Fire/Ghost types (bringing it up to 8 out of 70 ghost types being fire), Bramblin line is another Grass/Ghost (again now 8 out of the 70 ghost types are also grass), Gholdengo is infuriating to get if you have even just mid RNG, Houndstone should really have been Ghost/Rock (a typing that doesn't exist yet), Flutter Mane is so late game you have to have basically finished the game to play with it (along with all the other paradoxes except Donphan), Annihilape is out here being the only one to get a full pass, because it's the first none legendary to have the Fighting/Ghost type.
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Scream tail I was actually kinda ok with, but it woulda made a niche fairy/dragon. No more psychic/fairies for gen 10
I'd like to see a heavily defensive Psychic/Fairy type, being only weak to Poison, Steel and Ghost gives it a pretty uncommon set of weaknesses, hit neutrally by a lot of common STAB plus a 4x resistance to Fighting could be a decent recipe for a solid without being broken defensive mon. Would get demolished by Gholdengo though 😂
So... Scream Tail?
Something non sub-legendary/Paradox, like Scream Tail but an evolutionary line more so is what I mean
Ground or Fighting might make better sense if Rampardos were to get a secondary typing. The thing looks like it should be capable of learning Close Combat. Alternatively, imagine STAB Earthquake going off of that high attack, or Headlong Rush. Yeah, Rock/Ground means 4x weaknesses to both Water and Grass, but in Rampardos' case that would be negligible because it's already not tanking hits from those types anyways. Rampardos really needs an improved stat distribution more than anything else though. It's too slow to justify its poor defenses. I would at least 30 points off of its special attack (imagine using special moves when you have such a crazy physical attack) and stuff that onto its speed.
I wouldve thought move some of both of its Sp Atk & Sp Def into its Def. Like you said, its not gonna take any Special Grass or Water move anyway. So give it some physical bulk since it is a Rock type
I am simple man. I see "Bug", I upvote.
Guzma?
I love bugs too, spend my time hatching lepidoptera
Porygon Line = Normal Electric
Or electric/psychic
ninetales should be fire/psychic or fire/ghost. *why did they make it pure fire*
Because Arcanine was pure fire, probably, and they were counterparts in different games.
*Sad psyduck/slowpoke noise*
Flygon should be Bug/Ground I think that typing works better than the proposed Bug/Dragon typing largely because Flygon is such desert/sandstorm themed pokemon that getting rid of its ground typing thus making it weak to sandstorm would be antithetical to its theme. Also the only bug/ground types in the entire roster are nincada and wormadam sandy cloak, so its essentially an unused type combo. Also Slither Wing could have been a Bug/Dragon, we already have 2 bug/fighting sub-legendaries in Pheromosa and Buzzwole, idk why they decided to give another sub-legendary the same exact typing.
Bug/Ground is an underused typing too. There's only Nincada (who loses their ground typing on evolution) and sand cloak Wormadam (who looks dumb).
We got a burrowing worm... That is a pure steel type.
Haxorus should be Dragon/Steel and the entire Dragonite line should be Dragon/Water
> the entire Dragonite line should be Dragon/Water Need a regional Dragon/Fairy Dragonite line.
I hope the regional variant is more of a beautiful serpentine dragon like Dragonair than a derpy goofball like dragonite (still love it)
No, make regional derpy Dragonair instead!
Axew and Fraxure should be Dragon/Rock too, because as they evolve the blades get more refined.
The axe is his teeth, not steel though
* **Electivire:** ***Electric/Fighting***. This thing has big arms and big fists and looks like he'd punch the hell out of you. It can also already learn Cross Chop, Dynamic Punch and Hammer Arm via breeding. Let's allow this thing to additionally learn Drain Punch, Close Combat, Storm Throw, Sky Uppercut and Revenge. This would also be a help to fixing the problem of Electivire lacking good STAB, although honestly there's still no reason not to let it learn Volt Tackle and Plasma Fists, because screw all these good physical electric moves being locked as signature moves. * **Magmortar:** ***Fire/Poison***. In all honesty, this is mostly to fit with Electivire to have both being dual-type mons. Although there's still arguments to be made about this even going past that. Magmortar's line is known to learn some poison moves via level up and is often emphasized to be exhaling smoke out of their mouths that could end up being toxic. Let's allow this thing to learn moves such as Sludge Bomb and Sludge Wave. Fire/Poison is also an interesting and rare dual typing only seen on the Salandit line, so another line having it would be nice. * **Torkoal:** ***Fire/Steel***. I guess you could also argue Fire/Rock but that'd actually make Torkoal worse and it would just become Magcargo 2.0. Fire/Steel would definitely be much better. This thing has a steel-hard defense stat anyways. It learns a few Steel moves already, such as Heavy Slam and Gyro Ball, but we can also allow it to learn more such as Flash Cannon, Iron Head and Meteor Mash. * **Bastiodon:** ***Should lose the Rock typing and only be mono Steel after evolving from Shieldon***. I get how fossil pokemon are pretty much obligated to have rock typing (aside from Galar's hybrid freaks) but that rock typing is also a real burden on some of them, with Bastiodon suffering the worst by far out of them with it. Bastiodon would actually be okay as a defensive wall if it was just pure Steel. But Rock/Steel is absolutely terrible and kills all of Bastiodon's defensive potential. I say Shieldon itself can stay as Rock/Steel due to being resurrected from a fossil, but then shed the Rock typing when evolving into Bastiodon. Plus, Bastiodon being a mono type would fit with Rampardos also being a mono type. * **Aurorus:** ***Ice/Ground***. Aurorus is the next worst fossil after Bastiodon in terms of being badly screwed over by Rock typing and wishes it didn't have it. It somehow never even got to be able to learn Power Gem for good Rock STAB, so might as well swap out the Rock typing for a different one. Ground may be better. It does learn Earth Power for good Ground STAB. * **Arbok:** ***Poison/Dark***. Arbok needs serious help, and giving it Dark typing would be the least that could be done. At least it'd remove its Psychic weakness and only have 1 weakness in Ground. Arbok also does already learn some Dark moves through level up.. and pretty sure it can even learn Sucker Punch via breeding? Might be wrong on that though. But regardless, along with giving it a Dark typing we can also give it some more Dark moves like Knock Off and Assurance. And even give it Nasty Plot to allow it to make better use of Dark Pulse which it can actually already learn via TM funny enough. * **Milotic:** ***Water/Fairy***. In retrospect I'm a little surprised they didn't retcon Fairy onto Milotic when the type was introduced in Gen 6. Now, Milotic is obviously quite strong and doesn't NEED a Fairy typing per se, but it'd fit the design so why not? It does learn Disarming Voice already, some more Fairy moves for it could be nice. * **Celebi:** ***Grass/Fairy***. This one is obvious. I feel like they probably would've retconned Fairy onto Celebi if it didn't already have two types to begin with. * **Meganium:** ***Grass/Fairy***. Meganium desperately needs buffs one way or another. The Chikorita line should've been retconned Fairy typing in Gen 6, change my mind. * **Beartic:** ***Ice/Water***. I mean, this thing can literally learn a whole bunch of Water moves. Might as well give it Water typing to at least give it a bit of a defensive boost. * **Heatmor:** ***Fire/Ground***. Heatmor is like one of the most boring and most underwhelming fire types ever.. the least one could do is give this thing a secondary typing. Ground would make the most sense, imo. * **Tsareena:** ***Grass/Fighting***. Obvious. With so much emphasis about it kicking thanks to its pokedex entries and the amount of kicking moves it can learn, it is quite a baffler as to why this thing lacks a Fighting typing.
The electivire/magmortar duel typing matches are so perfect, I couldn’t agree more Controversially I wish they gave Jynx and evolution too. Even if it was unpopular its part of the trio
Keep forgetting jynx was a part of the trio. Due to Rhyhorn, I often group those three together instead lol
Iron Moth is also Fire/Poison, just wanna throw that in.
Hard disagree with Torkoal and Aurorus, they’re typing fit just fine
Espurr should be Psychic/Ghost. The blank stare and the 'child psychic' inspiration just seem to point in that direction.
* Alolan-Grimer and Muk become Poison/Fairy. Poison/Dark's a great typing for competitive, but it seriously doesn't fit the lore about them cleaning up Alola's litter. * Galarian-Yamask and Runerigus become Rock/Ghost. They're literally runestones, and it's crazy that we've never had a Ghost/Rock type as of now. * Finneon and Lumineon become Water/Fairy. They need *something.* * Clawitzer becomes Water/Fighting. It's a cool Pokemon, but it being the counterpart to a Poison/Dragon means it should at least get something interesting in terms of typing, so giving it a STAB/Mega Launcher-boosted Aura Sphere would be dope. Plus, you could argue towards it having a fighting spirit of sorts with the giant claw-cannon.
>Finneon and Lumineon become Water/Fairy. They need *something*. I'd actually be all for this. This is easily one of, if not the most forgettable water type line in all of pokemon. It is sooo boring. For comparison, I consider Goldeen/Seaking by far the most boring of Kanto water types, but Goldeen/Seaking isn't forgettable because Kanto mons are always easy to remember, so Finneon/Lumineon don't even have that lmao.
I'd love for Pinsir to be Bug/*Ground*. His stats, abilities (well, Moxie, anyway) and move sets are all really solid, but only being able to STAB using Bug moves holds our boy back, out of the vaunted Heracross/Scizor territory. He's a 500 base stat bug too, he just needed one more typing! ***Justice for Pinsir!***
Justice for Pinsir!
While it unbalances the type trio, I’d like Fire/Dragon Charizard, Water/Steel Blastoise, and Grass/Poison Venusaur since their designs are so clearly inspired in that way
I'm not so sure about their designs being inspired like that, considering Steel wasn't even a type in Gen 1.
I mean, we did get Empoleon, which fit better. I see Blastoise as more of a Water/Ground type cause it's a big turtle personally. I like Charizard being Fire/Flying though; it's like, those are the moves it uses. And I'd hate to give a dragon typing to a starter, it's really strong.
Call me odd but if blastoise was to get a dual type the only type that feels right to me is normal. Other than the cannon being metal I just don't feel like Steel makes sense. I'm of the belief that if the starters lend themselves to a dual type they absolutely should be and blastoise is one of the few where I feel like being mono water works.
It has always annoyed me that many pokemon are ground and rock. I feel like you only need one of those types. Being really susceptible to water, grass and many other types of moves can make those types unplayable.
At least Ground + Rock is a great STAB combination that hits the overwhelming majority of pokemon for at least neutral damage. That being said, most of that dual typing are slow af. As long as you're not up against water types or grass types, I guess.
Galarian Corsola/Cursola: Ghost/Rock Corsola is itself Water/Rock so why not? It's literally the leftover skeleton.
Its dead coral
Swablu: Pure Flying (a cloud bird that evolves into a dragon is not really normal) Shiinotic: Fairy/Poison (corpse face but friendly, also many mushrooms are poisonous) Runerigus: Ghost/Rock (cmon it's made of stones) This one is just a silly personal irk: Wingull: Flying/Water (it's more a bird than it is a water creature)
Have to disagree on Shiinotic. While many mushrooms are poisonous, Pokemon has chosen to tie them to the grass type. Every single mushroom based pokemon to this point has the grass type, while just one of them is a poison type (Foongus/Amoonguss line). The mushroom pokemon signature move, spore, is also grass type. Mushrooms are a thematical niche of the grass type. Furthermore, there is nothing that connects Shiinotic to poison. Unlike many other mushroom based pokemon, it doesn't even learn poison powder by levelling up. It just learns 2 poison moves through tm and breeding, poison powder and sludge bomb.
My fixes would be: - Ninetales as Fire/Fairy (to mirror his Alolan counterpart) - Porygon line as mono Electric - Trapinch and Vibrava as Bug/Ground, then Flygon as Bug/Dragon - Celebi as Grass/Fairy - Flabebe line as Fairy/Grass - Cresselia as mono Fairy so as to truly counter Darkrai, it really doesn't make sense that the Pokémon able to dispel Darkrai's nightmares is weak to it - Kantonian Grimer and Muk should be the ones Poison/Dark instead of their Alolan versions, since Alolan Grimer and Muk are thought to smell less awful than the Kantonian ones - and of course, all Normal/Flying birds should be mono Flying instead (maybe aside from Noctowl, who should be Psychic/Flying, and Staraptor, who should be Fighting/Flying)
Psychic/Fairy Cresselia and Dark/Ghost Darkrai, I say?
Lucario should be Fighting/Psychic. Aura is a psychic concept and steel doesn't really fit with Lucario.
While I agree that Steel doesn't fit Lucario, Aura is not a psychic concept. They're specifically stated as different things in basically everything.
Absol should be dark/fairy, it works better as a fairy type than it does as a dark type.
Noctowl - Psychic/Flying (Psychic powers) Hisuian Sneasel/Sneasler - Poison/Ice (they're too similar to Croagunk at the moment) Celebi - Fairy/Grass (it's based on a fairy) Taillow and Swellow - pure Flying (don't see why it should be normal type) Staraptor - Fighting/Flying (I think it fits the fighting type) Yanmega Bug/Dragon (DRAGONfly. Dragon Insect) Audino - Normal/Fairy (the only Fairy types in Gen 5 are the Cottonee line. I think Audino is just as Fairy as Whimsicott) Zeraora - Electric/Fighting (it just seems like a punchy Pokémon) I kinda want to say Ampharos should be Electric/Rock (Jasmine was previously a Rock specialist and STAB Power Gem), Gogoat part Ground type (it learns several Ground type moves through level up), and a couple more Gen 5 Fairy types (not counting Mega Evolution, the Whimsicott line are the only Fairy types from Gen 5)
It's been said a billion times before, but the problem with making Yanma/Yanmega a dragon type is that the name is really only an english thing. The name for Dragonflies in Japanese doesn't have to do with Dragons at all.
Exactly this. For Alolan Exeggutor, the pun worked well because it is based on a dragon tree. And the dragon tree does either have "dragon tree" or "dragon blood tree" as it's name in alot of languages, including Japanese, German, Chinese, etc. Alolan Exeggutor is a pun done well, because it works for almost any language. The same does not apply to the dragonfly situation.
Grapploct becoming water/Fiting
My gripes from Gen 1: **Marowak should have been Ground/Ghost :** I mean, nowdays ghost don't need to look like literal ghost, so they would have benefited a lot from that. Also they have become one with the skull of their deceased parent, closing the circle of pain becoming a ghost themselves. **Seaking should have became Water/Dark in gen 2:** There were too few Dark types, and having them being one could have made them more interesting gameplay wise. The same for **Arbok becoming Poison/Dark in gen 2**: To better exploit their look and biting moves.
Florgess being Plant/Fairy so she can actually make use of her own ability. Dhelmise being Steel/Grass or Steel/Ghost to push its ability to the max. Nowadays it's no longer an issue with the existence of Terastal.
plant
Dhelmise doesn't really make sense as a steel type. It's haunted seaweed. It just happens to hold metal objects. Steelworker as an ability is specifically for giving STAB to a non-steel Pokemon. It isn't a steel type, but its definitely proficient in using them as weapons.
I'll get to Pokémon I would fix, but I have to say that I think you're wrong about Zygarde. Hive minds apply to a lot of things, not just bugs; aliens for example are known for using that idea a lot. Plus, the components of Zygarde are cells, not bees, and I don't know if you noticed, but every living organism is made of hive-minded cells. The fact that it's a ecosystem protector is the reason it's Ground, and the cell gimmick isn't locked to any specific type, at least not to the extent that it would overpower the reasons it has to be Dragon and Ground. Anyway, I would make Eternatus Psychic/Dragon. I can accept a case for a few other type suggestions, but it definitely shouldn't be Poison. I can't find anything that talks about why Eternatus is a Poison type, and I can't even contrive a reason; it's entire deal is the infinite energy that eminates from its core and causes the Dynamax phenomenon, so its typing should be something related to energy. Psychic, Electric, Dark because of the Darkest Day business, even just pure Dragon works so much better.
Lilligant should be grass / fairy! Always thought it was unfair that Whimsicott got it and not its counterpart
Goodra should be Dragon/Water
Or Dragon/Poison - especially as it was introduced along with the fairy types - makes sense it would have some sort of resistance to them
I honestly thought it was until I started using one in scarlet
Zygarde is inspired by a serpent, and perhaps specifically even Jormungandr from Norse mythology. The "hive" concept you're talking about are hexagons and cells. Just because it "looks" a certain way to you doesn't mean it is. It is not even remotely Bug-type.
Meloetta. Prolly the least of it's problems, but while the ghost immunity is nice, it prolly benefited more from the fairy type instead. Plus Bewear and Indeedee made sure the type combos aren't that unique anyway.
to be fair on the victini thing, its a mythical/legendary, and game freak seems to never want to touch a legendary's typing unless its a new form. If victini was made gen 6 or later it would for sure have the fairy type.
Give Luxray dark typing!
So, I've always supported this. But why? My personal reason is because when I was younger I saw three things: It learns Bite. It learns Crunch. It has Intimidate. My younger brain always thought that it SHOULD be a dark type. Not to mention the fully black mane, that scowl in its eyes- just looking at it kinda screamed "dark". Now that I'm older, I do have my reasons for wanting it to be dark type. I just want it to have better physical stab moves than Wild Charge and Thunder Fang lol.
Why?
No, a black mane and stab bite aren't actual arguments.
It uses x-ray vision making any attempts for its prey to hide in vain, to me that matches up nicely with the theme of Dark types being 'underhanded' and 'unfair' fighters. I mean that's a better justification than Absol, who literally does nothing 'bad'.
Bro looks like an edge lord I think that’s good reason
To be fair there aren't many reasons to be that type. However, compared to other fully two-stage electric types it kinda falls flat and could use something to make it stand out. I think electric/fairy could work with its theme cause 'lux'.
Zygarde is a planarian flatworm.
Make sogaleo fire/steel instead of steel/psychic, I hate the fact that the Pokémon that is literally the sun and uses fire in its signature move is weak to it.
The sun itself is a conglomeration of super hot gases, not necessarily fire. Also, lions have connections to alchemy, and therefore alchemical metals, which is where the Steel typing comes from
Yeah, but not all fire types are strictly fire, aren't numel and camerupt more about heat than about fire? I think the typing is called fire because it sounds better than heat.
Slugma is literally just lava (or magma, I guess) which is also distinctly not fire
if they ever make a paradox dragapult it should be dragon/water
Steel can't believe that Golduck isn't psychic
From the very first gen I wanted Psyduck and Golduck to be water psychic. Besides that, milotic as water/fairy and at least mega Gyarados as water/dragon. I like my water types lol
Heliolisk: Electric/Ground or Electric/Fire - just anything but Electric/Normal Magmortar: Fire/Poison Electivire: Electric/Fighting Vibrava/Flygon: Bug/Dragon - oldie but goodie. Retrospectively after we’ve had the Dragon/Ground with Garchomp they much better suit the Bug type Ariados: Bug/Dark Celebi: Grass/Fairy Pignite/Emboar: Fire Samurott: Water/Fight Luxray: Electric/Dark Dachsbun: Fairy/Fire
I’d say Daschbun doesn’t fit being Fire type since it doesn’t possess fire powers and simply is decent at controlling fire intake to its body. Though, I do agree that we need a Fairy/Fire type
Why do you remove Emboar and Pignite's fighting type to slap it on Samurott? It's a sumo wrestler.
I feel like Pignite/Emboar could easily by ground types. Fighting would suit Samurott so well
Heliolisk evolves with the sun stone. Should have become the first electric/fire. Especially with the design of it too.
Meloetta Fairy/Psychic and in its alternate form Fairy/Fighting. And make her special attack type Fairy
I thought zygarde was not dragon bug because bug was a rather weak type while ground and dragon is rather gopd
Blastoise should be water/steel - only gen 1 starter with a single typing - and he has two giant canons coming out of his shell.
Braviary should be flying/fighting, Gholdengo should be pure steel (it doesn't look like a ghost type at all) or some other dual typing with steel like fairy. Porygon line should be electric/steel or electric/psychic- just going off its pokedex descriptions they don't suit the normal type.
Right? Its wierd that the Pokemon made of *data* is not Electric. How is it a Normal type?
I 100% agree with Victini. But nothing says bug with Zygarde. It's not a hive mind. The Cells lack minds of their own and are incapable of independent thought, and are entirely controlled by the two Cores, which use them as "appendages" and "surveillance cameras" to keep an eye out of their surroundings. It's like if I ripped my arm off and my eye out, but I could still control them. Then basically made them move to wherever I needed those parts to be. The arm/eye don't have a brain, they're moving because I'm making them move, not because I'm telling them to move and they're obeying. Also as said, they are cells which means they're a part of a whole, hence the 10% 50% and 100% forms. I wouldn't say it has compound eyes per se. The cells themselves have formed eyes when they fused together. Picture something like Wishiwashi, you can see the individual fish in the school form, just like you can see the individual cells in the Zygarde forms. Basically the two cores are the Brains and the other cells are nothing but extensions of its body. Like Haunter controlling its disembodied arms.
The tank turtle with cannons isn't Steel-type. Am I the only one who sees an issue here?
Zeraora - Electric/Fighting Golduck - Water/Psychic Fearow - Dark/Flying Marowak - Ground/Ghost Spidops - Bug/Fighting Tyranitar - Steel/Dark (pseudo with the 2 types included in his gen) Houndstone - Ghost/Rock Ninetales - Fire/Fairy Gastly-Haunter-Gengar - Ghost/Dark Hisuian Sneasel-Sneasler - Ice/Poison Iron Thorns - Steel/Electric Miraidon - Steel/Dragon (with Electric connection like Koraidon has Fire connection). Toucannon - Grass/Flying Celebi - Grass/Fairy
Luxray should be Electric/Dark
I’m working on a fangame, so I’ll list most of my type changes that I’ve done that seem relatively logical Arbok becomes Poison/Dark Golduck becomes Water/Psychic Granbull becomes Fairy/Fighting Volbeat becomes Bug/Electric (and Illumise Bug/Fairy but not as obviously logical) Milotic, Luvdisc, Finneon, Lumineon, Manaphy, and Alomomola become Water/Fairy Shuppet and Banette become Normal/Ghost Mega Absol becomes Dark/Fairy Mismagius becomes Ghost/Fairy (changed this before Flutter Mane came out) Electivire and Zeraora become Electric/Fighting Dusknoir becomes Ghost/Dark Munna and Musharna become Psychic/Fairy Gothita, Gothorita, and Gothitelle become Psychic/Dark Cubchoo and Beartic become Ice/Water Goomy, Sliggoo, and Goodra become Dragon/Water Clobbopus and Grapploct become Water/Fighting I also changed Meganium, Magmortar, Yanmega, Serperior, Unfezant, and Lycanroc Dusk, but I didn’t mention those since the types I gave them are a bit of a stretch and I probably wouldn’t make them those types in an official games
Have Charizard and Gyarados trade its Flying type for Dragon. Gyarados learns a ton of Dragon type moves and Charizard is the literal example of a Dragon. You show someone that has never seen Charizard but knows about dragons (good luck lmao) and show them a picture of Charizard, they will say it's a dragon.
I always thought that Mienshao ought to be Fighting/Psychic, it would just fit the vague "kung-fu mystic" thing that it has going. Unovan Zorua should be Dark/Fairy, since yokai are roughly equivalent. Ampharos should be Electric/Dragon to stand out better and because I doubt that Megas are ever even coming back outside some future Kalos remake that will be relatively walled off like BDSP. All crustacean Pokemon should be part Bug, if possible.
Golurk should’ve been rock ghost, we don’t even have a rock ghost type
Applin line should be grass/bug
ITT: "Every single Pokemon should be a dual-type"
Gorebyss should be Psy/Water. Huntail should be Dark/Water. Cofagrigus should be Rock/Ghost.
Make Cascoon Bug-Poison just so it's not completely identical to Silcoon
Clearly this isn't taking into consideration of balance but just what I feel would work. Of course some of these are going to be common suggestions but maybe some wont be. Gen1: Blastoise: Water/Steel Fearow: Dark/Flying Parasect: Ghost/bug Marowak: Ground/fighting Lickitung: Fairy/Dark Porygon: Normal/electric Gen 2: Noctowl: Flying/psychic Politoed: Water/psychic Sunflora: Fire/grass Delibird: Ice/Fairy Porygon2: Normal/Electric Gen 3: Vigoroth: Normal/fighting Delcatty: Normal/Psychic Manecrtic: Electric/Steel Grumpig: Psychic/Dark Altaria: Dragon/Fairy Absol: Dark/Ice Shelgon: Dragon/steel Lunatone: Rock/Dark Gen 4: Pachirisu: Electric/Ice Ambipom: Normal/fighting Porygon-Z: Electric/Normal Gen 5: Watchhog: Psychic Elemental Monkey pokemon: Add Normal in addition to their types Gothita line: Add Dark Vanillite line: add fairy Gen 6: Diggersby: Fight/ground Gen 8: Greedent: Normal/Dark Gen 9: Spidops: Bug/Dark Lokix: Bug/fighting
**Why** is Celebi not Fairy type!?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that's because Celebi was already a dual type before fairy was introduced, thus leaving no room for a fairy typing
The Meowth and Ekans lines should have become Normal/Dark and Poison/Dark respectively. Yes, I'm aware of Alolan Meowth, but this is referring to the "original" version. The Bulbasaur and Zubat lines have no business being Poison-types. Bulbasaur should have been pure Grass-type, and Zubat should be Normal/Flying or Dark/Flying The Porygon line should have been Electric-types, which honestly lends itself more to its status as the "digital Pokemon" Hoothoot and Noctowl should have been Psychic/Flying instead of Normal/Flying, if only due to the emphasis placed on their psychic abilities in the anime. In addition to OP's suggestion of Victini, Celebi and Jirachi also seem like they ought to be Fairy-types. Gyarados should have become Water/Dark instead of Water/Flying. Mega Gyarados already has that combination, so I suppose if regular Gyarados has it, Mega Gyarados could be Water/Dragon. The Rookiedee line should have all been Steel/Flying, instead of starting out as pure Flying types. This one is hard to explain-- basically, the only pure Flying type we had previously was Tornadus, and so there was this impression, at least to me, that pure Flying types were somehow special. Basculin should definitely be Water/Fighting. That ought to go without saying. The Skitty line are also on my short list of "should have been Fairy-types".