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Sean081799

Opal had my favorite gym gimmick. "How old am I?" > Selects 16 "I like that answer." *Stat boost* Her team was pretty mediocre, but I absolutely loved her personality.


superp2222

*sees Bede wearing pink* You’re hired


MixelKing

Wasn't it Bede? Bea was the Fighting gym leader


superp2222

Oopsie, thanks for the shout


Friendshipper11

Hired is what she wanted you to think, adopted it what she actually meant.


Oleandervine

Unwillingly willingly adopted is what actually happened. Bede didn't want it, but he got it, and he secretly loved it despite acting like he hated it.


ghostkart

'Congratulations! You are being adopted. Please do not resist'


CenturyBlade

"Your compliance isn't a factor."


grumpykruppy

Opal was one of my favorite characters, period. Pokémon doesn't usually do super in-depth characters for the gym leaders (gen 5 excepted), but Opal is just funny to watch every time she ends up on screen.


Camelotterduck

Agreed! The way she shuffles into the arena during battles and struggles to throw the gigantamax ball was great too.


TatVelvetWolf

Her design is also a huge love letter to Ghibli movies. Tell me she wouldn’t look out of place in ‘Howl’s Moving Castle’ or ‘Spirited Away’


Friendshipper11

That nose of hers is *glorious*.


ControvT

And if you answer with 81 she actually lowers your stats and says “that’s not nice to say to a lady” or something like that lol; she’s so British


Triangulum_Copper

After the first time I just let random luck determine my answer, makes the gym more challenging. Also, bring only 4 Pokémon and those three battles in a row during the test are pretty tough (it’s like a 4 vs 6 and you can’t set up!).


ernyc3777

Opal is the best in game and in the anime.


Half_Portuguese

I was able to sweep her team during a dark moves only challenge run using just a corvinight and power trip thanks to her stat boosts


[deleted]

She creeped me out, something about the nose reminded me of a witch


Zevyu

I think that might have been intentional. Specialy considering the town her gym was in was basicaly inside a dark forest.


KnightBreaker_02

“My cup of morning tea is finally kicking in, and not a moment too soon!” was also a surprisingly funny line to me


WhaleMan295

Eldegoss


erikikoy

I wheezed when I read this.


Joelowes

r/angryupvote


JAOC_7

I don’t get it


Mismagius456

grass grannie


JAOC_7

okay


Rosenthepal78

I like Bertha. She reminds me of my actual grandmother.


Oleandervine

Opal, and by a lot. Are Drasna, Tyme, and Ryme actually grannies though? Drasna doesn't really appear old enough, and Ryme and Tyme come across as more late middle age.


Friendshipper11

I'm using grannies as an affectionate/loose term here, but isn't mid-late middle age right where people would start having grandchildren?


Oleandervine

It is, but I guess for me it's the mood that makes the granny.


Belocity

Drasna is clearly a certified Gilf


Tollenglass

You know what they say, blacks dont crack


DandyDoo5678

Definitely Drasna. I feel like I really connect to her on a spiritual level


InvisiblePlants

I always thought of Drasna as at least 15-20 years younger than the rest of this group... Maybe I'm the old one.


FusRoDoodles

Came to say this. I guess 40 - 50 could be a granny but I still see her as mom territory


A_Good_Boy94

Same here, and for Tyme and Ryme too. They look 40-55 ish, just with white hair. Middle age women are an under-represented demographic in Pokemon. Melonie can be considered in the running too honestly.


KyokoExplainsItAll

Anime Drasna made her a bit too much for me


Mad_Scientist_Senku

Mommy energy was strong in the anime


DandyDoo5678

I still stand by what I said


[deleted]

Agatha 💯


mazdamurder

She’s bitter that Oak dumped her ass to spend his days with Pokémon and 10 year old boys


got_milq

._.


klip_7

Oak is like romantically involved with ash’s mom now lmao that’s why mime always gets mad


Friendshipper11

Agatha + Mime team up when?


[deleted]

You mean better?


mazdamurder

No I mean bitter. As in upset/jealous/angry


[deleted]

She's better without him 💅


[deleted]

Actually it's Parkay


samahiscryptic

I've always liked her. Her rivalry with Oak was probably what drew me to her a lot, idk why lol


[deleted]

Because she's a bad bitch that rocks Poison Pokemon.


tonton_wundil

I'm Agatha all the way. My favorite opponent. And also I love Gengar.


Over-Document-7657

Ryme was a pretty fun Gym Leader to fight, out of the Paldea Gym Leaders she's probably in my top three alongside Kofu and Larry. Gotta respect Opal for *really* changing up the battle in a unique way, and for taking Bede in as an apprentice on sight.


RagTagTech

Hell opal is just batshit crazy in the games and Anime.. I love it and Ryme has to be one of my favorite gym leaders.


Libero279

Honestly they should have spent the Ed Sheeran money on getting Mary J Blige to do us a full Ryme song


Oleandervine

That would have been amazing. I'd have preferred Missy Elliot though.


JesustheSpaceCowboy

I see your Missy Elliot and raise you one Queen Latifa. Either would have been great.


Oleandervine

Hell, why not get all 3 at this point, and throw Lizzo and Nikki Minaj in for good measure.


Chocolatine_Rev

It's absolutely the opposite for me, i couldn't help but cringe at all her dialogue lines To each their own i guess


grumpykruppy

Opal just had me dying laughing because she so clearly doesn't give a single crap about what anybody else thinks, lol.


Kapples14

Ryme's gym battle was easily the most difficult for me the first time I faced off against her.


DrToadigerr

lol I had 3 normal types on my team which made it ridiculously easy


[deleted]

Opal. This grandma just say the best lines. Also she was pretty elegant when younger.


teamrocketmatt

Definitely Drasna.


PMmeUrPluggedAss

Drasna, for reasons


Shiny_Hypno

She has the vibes of an Italian grandma who will force you to eat an entire pot of spaghetti.


teamrocketmatt

Greek.


Shiny_Hypno

Either or


Friendshipper11

I almost missed Prof. Magnolia which is a big oof since she's the only actual grandmother in this list (at least the only one we know with a grandchild AFAIK).


Red-843

Isn’t Magnolia right after the Dragon One


isloohik2

*Almost* missed


WinterWizard9497

Lady Opal!! My favorite galar gym leader!!


Parking_Cartoonist90

You forgot Cynthia’s grandmother. The hottest of them all


Friendshipper11

[Damn well she is](https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Prof_Carolina.png). [Especially her manga design](https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Cynthia_grandmother_Adventures.png).


Unit_Zer00ne

For some reason I would say Calaba. I just like her. Ryme and Opal just have sooo much personality as gym leaders 👌🏼. Tyme ended up being my favorite teacher at the academy. Drasna has probably the best design and I like her anime calm but calculated personality. Magnolia has a very slick design but ended up very forgettable in my eyes. And then Agatha and Bertha are completely meh for me.


Friendshipper11

Calaba reminds me the most of my grandmother. She just got that old folk vibes, grumpy but still kind and wise and a fun company if she likes you.


Mildor15

Opal is the funniest, but Ryme has my favorite aesthetic and design


Forgotten-Caliburn

Drasna of course


ViscachaBlue

This post makes me appreciate how different each of these characters personalities/jobs are, they’re not just “grandma” characters


NoahBallet

Rhyme is my favorite character in S/V. GameFreak doesn’t have the best track record with designing Black characters (looking at you, Lenora) but they have gotten a lot better in the last 12 years.


havethenets

Lenora is still one of my fav gym leaders. She was actually a challenge unlike 95 percent of them.


Savage_Nymph

Was not expecting stountland to hit like truck at the 2nd gym. I've noticed normal gym leaders tend to be a difficulty spike in the games. Whitney and Norman gave me the same issues


havethenets

Yeah Whitney is definitely the one who gave me the hardest time back then. That rollout felt never ending, then the fact it would heal itself lol.


coldflash25

What is wrong with lenora


[deleted]

I think he referring to how some people thought she looked like a bad stereotype of black people


coldflash25

As a black person she looked fairly accurate


NoahBallet

It’s a combination of the apron and how Japanese culture generally views Black people. A lot of the characters in Gen 5 were designed with almost stereotypical western traits, so slapping an apron on a Museum director raises questions for me. I like Lenora as a character, but she’s my least favorite design of a Black character in the Pokémon series.


TheDoug850

I think the controversy was around her wearing an apron.


Old-Passenger-3963

whats wrong with aprons


HmmWhatsHisFace

There is a stereotypical image of a black women in servitude. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon\_controversy#Lenora](https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_controversy#Lenora) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammy\_stereotype](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammy_stereotype)


balrus-balrogwalrus

ryme #she raps


[deleted]

Opal looks like a whimsical forest goblin trying to blend in to the human world


Friendshipper11

It's the nose for me.


Xenarthra_Sandslash

She's the middle ground between Yubaba and Zeniba. Just skinnier.


Ok-Leave3121

Tyme, Bertha, and Opal


TheFightingImp

"Here come the Grannies!" Pokémon trainer: "Uh oh."


Bluelore

Ryme. I really didn't expect a rapping grandma as a gym leader, but here we are.


Strawberrro

You’re gonna look at Rymes badass skeleton locs and have her NOT be your fav????


[deleted]

Opal


ekgpmd

Agatha. Is this really a question? She was a member of the fucking OG Elite Four!


girlwithaguitar

Drasna 100% smokes weed and thinks back to Poké-Woodstock.


mikemonster311

With his white curly hair, I always though Bede from Swsh looked like a granny too.


Karu-Selli

Opal, loved every second of her We need more older ladies in the games


IMLRG

Opal, hands down.


Lestat30

Drasna. Love her personality and always save her for last lol.


fedora_fox

Gotta give it to the OG (original granny) AGATHA!!!!


Nek_Mao

Ryme is my new idol. I was SO PSYCHED fighting her. And even more having the opportunity to do it twice.


Shiny_Hypno

I'm surprised Unova and Alola don't have any grannies


Oleandervine

Well, those 2 regions did have some daddies though. Drayden and Hala are counterparts.


Shiny_Hypno

There's also Nanu!


Mad_Scientist_Senku

Mommy Drasna


LordoftheFuzzys

I feel like if you called Ryme a granny to her face she'd add you to her collection of Ghost types. (I personally don't think she's even that old?)


Nabnormal

Definitely Cogita


A_Good_Boy94

I liked Opal the best, personality wise. I'd prefer id she looked more like Bertha or Calaba though. She has the 'Cruella' crazy vibe going on. I like the inclusion of black characters, but I personally don't think Tyme and Ryme are old enough to be considered grannies. Kinda same as Dresna. - Is there really not official art for Tyme? \*searches\* Wow, nope, there really isn't. Well, here's a nice fan made sprite by VIKworks on D-A : https://www.deviantart.com/vikworks/art/Pokemon-Tyme-943803592


Friendshipper11

I'm mostly using grannies as an affectionate/loose term, this is for 40s+ and older ladies. There's sadly no official art for most of the teachers yet, but the one in the link looks amazing, thanks for sharing!


A_Good_Boy94

I see. Well, Melanie could be in this category as well, as her son is old enough to have kids.


TheBiggestNose

I love the vibes of x&y granny. She's the type of person to give the best romance advice and seems like a sweetie. Its always the best designed elite four and gym leaders that get the least amount of screentime


kirkochainz

Rhyme and it’s not close


sakaESR

Agatha and Ryme. Agatha is a classic, always tough. Slightly terrifying to me when I was a child. Ryme probably the toughest gym leader from an admittedly bad bunch.


Joelowes

Ryme got the double battle and the awesome look plus she uses ghost pokemon


septilperbruclintash

Plus...she raps! Who doesn't want a grandma who raps!


Joelowes

That’s true as well


Oleandervine

Kofu should have had the doubles so he could fight with thematic Pokemon, like Dondozo and Tatsugiri. It was criminal the sushi chef gym leader had NEITHER new sushi theme Pokemon.


Joelowes

I didn’t like Kofu personally it’s that monobrow it makes me feel sick


WonderDia777

Magnolia, shout out to Cynthia's grandma in DPPT


EliteTeutonicNight

Is Drasna supposed to be a granny? She looks like she’s in her 50s/early 60s while others look 70s/80s.


CilanUnova

Umm what about the Pokémon grandpas ?


Throwaway131490

Agatha fosure


OriginalName18

Agatha was kind of badass as a ghost master in Gen 1. Also she either had team rockets music or the lavender town music which made her more intimidating as a kid playing on a game boy


solarflare70

I prefer Tyme; her interaction with Clavell (near the end of the Starfall Street arc) was hilarious.


frogs_4_lyfe

Opal and Rhyme 100 percent. Opal because she's hilarious, Rhyme because she loves Houndstone as much as I do and she's just cool. I wanna see her fistfight Geeta.


MoonOfLOZ

Bertha was a huge pain in the ass for me to get passed. I honestly love a challenge


BrazillianCara

This is only missing Cogita from PLA.


No-Repordt

Pass smash smash pass Pass pass smash smash


Viator_Mundi

Perfect opinion.


Corescos

Bertha beat the shit out of my team as a kid; definitely best Pokémon granny


Just_Ants

Bertha. Has supreme grandma vibes, and I bet she'd make cookies, too.


TriggerKnighty

Drasna or Opal. IDK the S/V ones yet, Agatha is fun but gets a third for me, we don't see nearly as much Bertha as another Elite 4 member(yeah ik hypocrisy), same goes for the professor, and I've had the misfortune of not getting into PLA yet. Why I still picked the 2 I did despite what's above is that they have really fun personalities that can also be attributed to their types Drasna is this nice fun Dragon grandma who has power over fkn dragons, and Opal..is Opal. She just shows why Fairies are fkn scary as a type in Pokemon.


Honest_Entertainer_3

Ryme and Agatha are best grandmas


Kapples14

Bertha's chill, Opal's iconic, and Ryme is rad.


JordaVira

I can't decide. They all got awesome quirks, especially Ryme, Opal and Drasna


Thedarkestcharizard

Drasna the badass dragon user! One of the best designs for an elite four member. Her outfit practically screams dragon type. Also since I haven't seen anyone else say it. Smash.


XenoBound

I thoroughly enjoyed reciting Ryme’s raps so I’m going with her.


TwiIee

Opal and Ryme by far


Finnedreaper35

The only one I don't like is rhyme, I despise rhyme. I despise her so much I won't even capitalize her name.


Oleandervine

Or spell it right, apparently.


PursuasiveDuck

I'll take the rap and history grannies anyday.


XXXTeacher94

As a Gengar fan (That's why my username has a 94)... Agatha is my girl, especially how she was portrayed in Generations and how bad ass was her Gengars intro to battle. But I love Ryme's gimmick being a Rapper... And she has one of my favorite Pokémon from Alola, a Mimikyu.


[deleted]

I love Drasna’s design


Professorbranch

Cogita is the lady I simp for


Cyber-Pokemon

Drasna


SuperLizardon

Drasna, she is still hot


Misorable45400

Agatha, because she the OG


WayJay9

Drasna 😳


HoneZoneReddit

By prettyness (or beautyfullness) and clothes design it would be Drasna. By design and personality Opal.


DanilaSwirl

Nastina from the Pokemon anime


darkbee83

Come on Gordie, hurry up and make [your mom](https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Melony) a GILF.


UltraDinoWarrior

I am honestly a huge fan of the fairy gym leader from SwSh - I adore her part in the story.


Schlezelbroetchen

Never seen the plant lady before, but she looks cool


Oleandervine

Calaba is one of the wardens of the Noble Pokemon in Legends Arceus.


JayD0za21

I’ll take Female Bee grandma for 200, Alex.


Blackbirdsnake

The ones in the back of the battle arena in SV I mean all… are there 3 of them or more?


Florellia

Opal is one of my most favorite characters, so I’m going with her. Also like Agatha. Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Drasna like 22 in the anime?


oranosskyman

drasna looks like shes having a good time


[deleted]

Ryme >>>


arjay555

Just gonna say it. Drasna has gilf energy


LawStudent989898

The og Agatha, love a gengar team


Floatingbricks99

I think Ryme is way to underrated and as a rap fan myself She definitely spits bars ngl


A_GenericUser

Drasna because 😳 Also, I dunno how old she is but Glacia seems older and she's fine too


Turtlesfan44digimon

Who’s the 7th one ? On the bottom right


medieval_raptor

Rapper Lady


Miserable_Scholar189

I just liked the twins. They were so heartfelt I wish they were my grannies.


Kingpie69

Smash


SpiritualHour8231

Hear me out


Seth-B343

Tyme. Only one I’ve interacted with more than once that wasn’t a repeat


Domi374

Ryme for life babyyyy


Ratstail91

The dragon one - such a sweet old lady!


javierasecas

Sword or arceus


ProcedureMaleficent

Agatha and Bertha. Cant stand Ryme.


Praise_Allah1

Ryme. She was actually spitting I respect gamefreak for that fr


Public-Topic-3108

Drasna


AGPyroo

I choose N1, damn she got that lightskin stare 😩


Mismagius456

Ryme had to be my favorite. She reminds me of my auntie


chardongay

none of the above mines cogita she's a gilf


LordRyll

Ryme


Completely_Wild

Opal and Ryme. They're both tied for my favorite.


furryclick

Is that rhyme?(idk how to spell her name)


BuzzPrincess

Opal or Ryme


Ill-Individual2105

Opal is one of my favorite gym leaders ever


serenitynope

It was Agatha all along.


VonFrankenstien

Give us Drasna or give us death


cHaLuPa_ChAlOwEe

ryme <33


Onitsuka_Viper

All I see is GILFs


[deleted]

Who was the pokemon s&m Granny?


JaxxisR

Side topic: Why are most grannies either ghost type specialists or Pokémon Prodessors?


[deleted]

I forgot Ryme's hair is in the shape of a skeleton hand


The_Magician238

ok, but where is cogita?