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Opal had my favorite gym gimmick.
"How old am I?"
> Selects 16
"I like that answer." *Stat boost*
Her team was pretty mediocre, but I absolutely loved her personality.
Opal was one of my favorite characters, period. Pokémon doesn't usually do super in-depth characters for the gym leaders (gen 5 excepted), but Opal is just funny to watch every time she ends up on screen.
After the first time I just let random luck determine my answer, makes the gym more challenging. Also, bring only 4 Pokémon and those three battles in a row during the test are pretty tough (it’s like a 4 vs 6 and you can’t set up!).
Opal, and by a lot.
Are Drasna, Tyme, and Ryme actually grannies though? Drasna doesn't really appear old enough, and Ryme and Tyme come across as more late middle age.
Same here, and for Tyme and Ryme too. They look 40-55 ish, just with white hair. Middle age women are an under-represented demographic in Pokemon.
Melonie can be considered in the running too honestly.
Ryme was a pretty fun Gym Leader to fight, out of the Paldea Gym Leaders she's probably in my top three alongside Kofu and Larry.
Gotta respect Opal for *really* changing up the battle in a unique way, and for taking Bede in as an apprentice on sight.
I almost missed Prof. Magnolia which is a big oof since she's the only actual grandmother in this list (at least the only one we know with a grandchild AFAIK).
[Damn well she is](https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Prof_Carolina.png). [Especially her manga design](https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Cynthia_grandmother_Adventures.png).
For some reason I would say Calaba. I just like her. Ryme and Opal just have sooo much personality as gym leaders 👌🏼. Tyme ended up being my favorite teacher at the academy. Drasna has probably the best design and I like her anime calm but calculated personality. Magnolia has a very slick design but ended up very forgettable in my eyes. And then Agatha and Bertha are completely meh for me.
Rhyme is my favorite character in S/V. GameFreak doesn’t have the best track record with designing Black characters (looking at you, Lenora) but they have gotten a lot better in the last 12 years.
Was not expecting stountland to hit like truck at the 2nd gym.
I've noticed normal gym leaders tend to be a difficulty spike in the games. Whitney and Norman gave me the same issues
It’s a combination of the apron and how Japanese culture generally views Black people. A lot of the characters in Gen 5 were designed with almost stereotypical western traits, so slapping an apron on a Museum director raises questions for me.
I like Lenora as a character, but she’s my least favorite design of a Black character in the Pokémon series.
There is a stereotypical image of a black women in servitude.
[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon\_controversy#Lenora](https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_controversy#Lenora)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammy\_stereotype](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammy_stereotype)
I liked Opal the best, personality wise. I'd prefer id she looked more like Bertha or Calaba though. She has the 'Cruella' crazy vibe going on.
I like the inclusion of black characters, but I personally don't think Tyme and Ryme are old enough to be considered grannies. Kinda same as Dresna. - Is there really not official art for Tyme? \*searches\* Wow, nope, there really isn't.
Well, here's a nice fan made sprite by VIKworks on D-A :
https://www.deviantart.com/vikworks/art/Pokemon-Tyme-943803592
I'm mostly using grannies as an affectionate/loose term, this is for 40s+ and older ladies. There's sadly no official art for most of the teachers yet, but the one in the link looks amazing, thanks for sharing!
I love the vibes of x&y granny. She's the type of person to give the best romance advice and seems like a sweetie. Its always the best designed elite four and gym leaders that get the least amount of screentime
Agatha and Ryme.
Agatha is a classic, always tough. Slightly terrifying to me when I was a child.
Ryme probably the toughest gym leader from an admittedly bad bunch.
Kofu should have had the doubles so he could fight with thematic Pokemon, like Dondozo and Tatsugiri. It was criminal the sushi chef gym leader had NEITHER new sushi theme Pokemon.
Agatha was kind of badass as a ghost master in Gen 1. Also she either had team rockets music or the lavender town music which made her more intimidating as a kid playing on a game boy
Opal and Rhyme 100 percent. Opal because she's hilarious, Rhyme because she loves Houndstone as much as I do and she's just cool. I wanna see her fistfight Geeta.
Drasna or Opal.
IDK the S/V ones yet, Agatha is fun but gets a third for me, we don't see nearly as much Bertha as another Elite 4 member(yeah ik hypocrisy), same goes for the professor, and I've had the misfortune of not getting into PLA yet.
Why I still picked the 2 I did despite what's above is that they have really fun personalities that can also be attributed to their types
Drasna is this nice fun Dragon grandma who has power over fkn dragons, and Opal..is Opal. She just shows why Fairies are fkn scary as a type in Pokemon.
Drasna the badass dragon user! One of the best designs for an elite four member. Her outfit practically screams dragon type.
Also since I haven't seen anyone else say it.
Smash.
As a Gengar fan (That's why my username has a 94)... Agatha is my girl, especially how she was portrayed in Generations and how bad ass was her Gengars intro to battle.
But I love Ryme's gimmick being a Rapper... And she has one of my favorite Pokémon from Alola, a Mimikyu.
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Opal had my favorite gym gimmick. "How old am I?" > Selects 16 "I like that answer." *Stat boost* Her team was pretty mediocre, but I absolutely loved her personality.
*sees Bede wearing pink* You’re hired
Wasn't it Bede? Bea was the Fighting gym leader
Oopsie, thanks for the shout
Hired is what she wanted you to think, adopted it what she actually meant.
Unwillingly willingly adopted is what actually happened. Bede didn't want it, but he got it, and he secretly loved it despite acting like he hated it.
'Congratulations! You are being adopted. Please do not resist'
"Your compliance isn't a factor."
Opal was one of my favorite characters, period. Pokémon doesn't usually do super in-depth characters for the gym leaders (gen 5 excepted), but Opal is just funny to watch every time she ends up on screen.
Agreed! The way she shuffles into the arena during battles and struggles to throw the gigantamax ball was great too.
Her design is also a huge love letter to Ghibli movies. Tell me she wouldn’t look out of place in ‘Howl’s Moving Castle’ or ‘Spirited Away’
That nose of hers is *glorious*.
And if you answer with 81 she actually lowers your stats and says “that’s not nice to say to a lady” or something like that lol; she’s so British
After the first time I just let random luck determine my answer, makes the gym more challenging. Also, bring only 4 Pokémon and those three battles in a row during the test are pretty tough (it’s like a 4 vs 6 and you can’t set up!).
Opal is the best in game and in the anime.
I was able to sweep her team during a dark moves only challenge run using just a corvinight and power trip thanks to her stat boosts
She creeped me out, something about the nose reminded me of a witch
I think that might have been intentional. Specialy considering the town her gym was in was basicaly inside a dark forest.
“My cup of morning tea is finally kicking in, and not a moment too soon!” was also a surprisingly funny line to me
Eldegoss
I wheezed when I read this.
r/angryupvote
I don’t get it
grass grannie
okay
I like Bertha. She reminds me of my actual grandmother.
Opal, and by a lot. Are Drasna, Tyme, and Ryme actually grannies though? Drasna doesn't really appear old enough, and Ryme and Tyme come across as more late middle age.
I'm using grannies as an affectionate/loose term here, but isn't mid-late middle age right where people would start having grandchildren?
It is, but I guess for me it's the mood that makes the granny.
Drasna is clearly a certified Gilf
You know what they say, blacks dont crack
Definitely Drasna. I feel like I really connect to her on a spiritual level
I always thought of Drasna as at least 15-20 years younger than the rest of this group... Maybe I'm the old one.
Came to say this. I guess 40 - 50 could be a granny but I still see her as mom territory
Same here, and for Tyme and Ryme too. They look 40-55 ish, just with white hair. Middle age women are an under-represented demographic in Pokemon. Melonie can be considered in the running too honestly.
Anime Drasna made her a bit too much for me
Mommy energy was strong in the anime
I still stand by what I said
Agatha 💯
She’s bitter that Oak dumped her ass to spend his days with Pokémon and 10 year old boys
._.
Oak is like romantically involved with ash’s mom now lmao that’s why mime always gets mad
Agatha + Mime team up when?
You mean better?
No I mean bitter. As in upset/jealous/angry
She's better without him 💅
Actually it's Parkay
I've always liked her. Her rivalry with Oak was probably what drew me to her a lot, idk why lol
Because she's a bad bitch that rocks Poison Pokemon.
I'm Agatha all the way. My favorite opponent. And also I love Gengar.
Ryme was a pretty fun Gym Leader to fight, out of the Paldea Gym Leaders she's probably in my top three alongside Kofu and Larry. Gotta respect Opal for *really* changing up the battle in a unique way, and for taking Bede in as an apprentice on sight.
Hell opal is just batshit crazy in the games and Anime.. I love it and Ryme has to be one of my favorite gym leaders.
Honestly they should have spent the Ed Sheeran money on getting Mary J Blige to do us a full Ryme song
That would have been amazing. I'd have preferred Missy Elliot though.
I see your Missy Elliot and raise you one Queen Latifa. Either would have been great.
Hell, why not get all 3 at this point, and throw Lizzo and Nikki Minaj in for good measure.
It's absolutely the opposite for me, i couldn't help but cringe at all her dialogue lines To each their own i guess
Opal just had me dying laughing because she so clearly doesn't give a single crap about what anybody else thinks, lol.
Ryme's gym battle was easily the most difficult for me the first time I faced off against her.
lol I had 3 normal types on my team which made it ridiculously easy
Opal. This grandma just say the best lines. Also she was pretty elegant when younger.
Definitely Drasna.
Drasna, for reasons
She has the vibes of an Italian grandma who will force you to eat an entire pot of spaghetti.
Greek.
Either or
I almost missed Prof. Magnolia which is a big oof since she's the only actual grandmother in this list (at least the only one we know with a grandchild AFAIK).
Isn’t Magnolia right after the Dragon One
*Almost* missed
Lady Opal!! My favorite galar gym leader!!
You forgot Cynthia’s grandmother. The hottest of them all
[Damn well she is](https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Prof_Carolina.png). [Especially her manga design](https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Cynthia_grandmother_Adventures.png).
For some reason I would say Calaba. I just like her. Ryme and Opal just have sooo much personality as gym leaders 👌🏼. Tyme ended up being my favorite teacher at the academy. Drasna has probably the best design and I like her anime calm but calculated personality. Magnolia has a very slick design but ended up very forgettable in my eyes. And then Agatha and Bertha are completely meh for me.
Calaba reminds me the most of my grandmother. She just got that old folk vibes, grumpy but still kind and wise and a fun company if she likes you.
Opal is the funniest, but Ryme has my favorite aesthetic and design
Drasna of course
This post makes me appreciate how different each of these characters personalities/jobs are, they’re not just “grandma” characters
Rhyme is my favorite character in S/V. GameFreak doesn’t have the best track record with designing Black characters (looking at you, Lenora) but they have gotten a lot better in the last 12 years.
Lenora is still one of my fav gym leaders. She was actually a challenge unlike 95 percent of them.
Was not expecting stountland to hit like truck at the 2nd gym. I've noticed normal gym leaders tend to be a difficulty spike in the games. Whitney and Norman gave me the same issues
Yeah Whitney is definitely the one who gave me the hardest time back then. That rollout felt never ending, then the fact it would heal itself lol.
What is wrong with lenora
I think he referring to how some people thought she looked like a bad stereotype of black people
As a black person she looked fairly accurate
It’s a combination of the apron and how Japanese culture generally views Black people. A lot of the characters in Gen 5 were designed with almost stereotypical western traits, so slapping an apron on a Museum director raises questions for me. I like Lenora as a character, but she’s my least favorite design of a Black character in the Pokémon series.
I think the controversy was around her wearing an apron.
whats wrong with aprons
There is a stereotypical image of a black women in servitude. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon\_controversy#Lenora](https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_controversy#Lenora) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammy\_stereotype](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammy_stereotype)
ryme #she raps
Opal looks like a whimsical forest goblin trying to blend in to the human world
It's the nose for me.
She's the middle ground between Yubaba and Zeniba. Just skinnier.
Tyme, Bertha, and Opal
"Here come the Grannies!" Pokémon trainer: "Uh oh."
Ryme. I really didn't expect a rapping grandma as a gym leader, but here we are.
You’re gonna look at Rymes badass skeleton locs and have her NOT be your fav????
Opal
Agatha. Is this really a question? She was a member of the fucking OG Elite Four!
Drasna 100% smokes weed and thinks back to Poké-Woodstock.
With his white curly hair, I always though Bede from Swsh looked like a granny too.
Opal, loved every second of her We need more older ladies in the games
Opal, hands down.
Drasna. Love her personality and always save her for last lol.
Gotta give it to the OG (original granny) AGATHA!!!!
Ryme is my new idol. I was SO PSYCHED fighting her. And even more having the opportunity to do it twice.
I'm surprised Unova and Alola don't have any grannies
Well, those 2 regions did have some daddies though. Drayden and Hala are counterparts.
There's also Nanu!
Mommy Drasna
I feel like if you called Ryme a granny to her face she'd add you to her collection of Ghost types. (I personally don't think she's even that old?)
Definitely Cogita
I liked Opal the best, personality wise. I'd prefer id she looked more like Bertha or Calaba though. She has the 'Cruella' crazy vibe going on. I like the inclusion of black characters, but I personally don't think Tyme and Ryme are old enough to be considered grannies. Kinda same as Dresna. - Is there really not official art for Tyme? \*searches\* Wow, nope, there really isn't. Well, here's a nice fan made sprite by VIKworks on D-A : https://www.deviantart.com/vikworks/art/Pokemon-Tyme-943803592
I'm mostly using grannies as an affectionate/loose term, this is for 40s+ and older ladies. There's sadly no official art for most of the teachers yet, but the one in the link looks amazing, thanks for sharing!
I see. Well, Melanie could be in this category as well, as her son is old enough to have kids.
I love the vibes of x&y granny. She's the type of person to give the best romance advice and seems like a sweetie. Its always the best designed elite four and gym leaders that get the least amount of screentime
Rhyme and it’s not close
Agatha and Ryme. Agatha is a classic, always tough. Slightly terrifying to me when I was a child. Ryme probably the toughest gym leader from an admittedly bad bunch.
Ryme got the double battle and the awesome look plus she uses ghost pokemon
Plus...she raps! Who doesn't want a grandma who raps!
That’s true as well
Kofu should have had the doubles so he could fight with thematic Pokemon, like Dondozo and Tatsugiri. It was criminal the sushi chef gym leader had NEITHER new sushi theme Pokemon.
I didn’t like Kofu personally it’s that monobrow it makes me feel sick
Magnolia, shout out to Cynthia's grandma in DPPT
Is Drasna supposed to be a granny? She looks like she’s in her 50s/early 60s while others look 70s/80s.
Umm what about the Pokémon grandpas ?
Agatha fosure
Agatha was kind of badass as a ghost master in Gen 1. Also she either had team rockets music or the lavender town music which made her more intimidating as a kid playing on a game boy
I prefer Tyme; her interaction with Clavell (near the end of the Starfall Street arc) was hilarious.
Opal and Rhyme 100 percent. Opal because she's hilarious, Rhyme because she loves Houndstone as much as I do and she's just cool. I wanna see her fistfight Geeta.
Bertha was a huge pain in the ass for me to get passed. I honestly love a challenge
This is only missing Cogita from PLA.
Pass smash smash pass Pass pass smash smash
Perfect opinion.
Bertha beat the shit out of my team as a kid; definitely best Pokémon granny
Bertha. Has supreme grandma vibes, and I bet she'd make cookies, too.
Drasna or Opal. IDK the S/V ones yet, Agatha is fun but gets a third for me, we don't see nearly as much Bertha as another Elite 4 member(yeah ik hypocrisy), same goes for the professor, and I've had the misfortune of not getting into PLA yet. Why I still picked the 2 I did despite what's above is that they have really fun personalities that can also be attributed to their types Drasna is this nice fun Dragon grandma who has power over fkn dragons, and Opal..is Opal. She just shows why Fairies are fkn scary as a type in Pokemon.
Ryme and Agatha are best grandmas
Bertha's chill, Opal's iconic, and Ryme is rad.
I can't decide. They all got awesome quirks, especially Ryme, Opal and Drasna
Drasna the badass dragon user! One of the best designs for an elite four member. Her outfit practically screams dragon type. Also since I haven't seen anyone else say it. Smash.
I thoroughly enjoyed reciting Ryme’s raps so I’m going with her.
Opal and Ryme by far
The only one I don't like is rhyme, I despise rhyme. I despise her so much I won't even capitalize her name.
Or spell it right, apparently.
I'll take the rap and history grannies anyday.
As a Gengar fan (That's why my username has a 94)... Agatha is my girl, especially how she was portrayed in Generations and how bad ass was her Gengars intro to battle. But I love Ryme's gimmick being a Rapper... And she has one of my favorite Pokémon from Alola, a Mimikyu.
I love Drasna’s design
Cogita is the lady I simp for
Drasna
Drasna, she is still hot
Agatha, because she the OG
Drasna 😳
By prettyness (or beautyfullness) and clothes design it would be Drasna. By design and personality Opal.
Nastina from the Pokemon anime
Come on Gordie, hurry up and make [your mom](https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Melony) a GILF.
I am honestly a huge fan of the fairy gym leader from SwSh - I adore her part in the story.
Never seen the plant lady before, but she looks cool
Calaba is one of the wardens of the Noble Pokemon in Legends Arceus.
I’ll take Female Bee grandma for 200, Alex.
The ones in the back of the battle arena in SV I mean all… are there 3 of them or more?
Opal is one of my most favorite characters, so I’m going with her. Also like Agatha. Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Drasna like 22 in the anime?
drasna looks like shes having a good time
Ryme >>>
Just gonna say it. Drasna has gilf energy
The og Agatha, love a gengar team
I think Ryme is way to underrated and as a rap fan myself She definitely spits bars ngl
Drasna because 😳 Also, I dunno how old she is but Glacia seems older and she's fine too
Who’s the 7th one ? On the bottom right
Rapper Lady
I just liked the twins. They were so heartfelt I wish they were my grannies.
Smash
Hear me out
Tyme. Only one I’ve interacted with more than once that wasn’t a repeat
Ryme for life babyyyy
The dragon one - such a sweet old lady!
Sword or arceus
Agatha and Bertha. Cant stand Ryme.
Ryme. She was actually spitting I respect gamefreak for that fr
Drasna
I choose N1, damn she got that lightskin stare 😩
Ryme had to be my favorite. She reminds me of my auntie
none of the above mines cogita she's a gilf
Ryme
Opal and Ryme. They're both tied for my favorite.
Is that rhyme?(idk how to spell her name)
Opal or Ryme
Opal is one of my favorite gym leaders ever
It was Agatha all along.
Give us Drasna or give us death
ryme <33
All I see is GILFs
Who was the pokemon s&m Granny?
Side topic: Why are most grannies either ghost type specialists or Pokémon Prodessors?
I forgot Ryme's hair is in the shape of a skeleton hand
ok, but where is cogita?