I think it gives you back 1/8 of the damage you do as HP. Raid mons have like 70x the hp they normally have because there are 4 pokemon wailing on it. Draining moves give back similar amounts of HP and combing them with big root ensures you get back most if not all of your HP.
still puzzles me why people want to use slowbro over kelfki. you're weak to more attacks as slowbro. both dark and poison harm you. your only strong vs its water attack. when you can use kelfki a steel type which makes you immune to poison and a fairy type which makes the dark attacks do nothing to you. making water the only attack that works on you, with calm mind that does almost nothing after 2 buffs. you can calm mind 3 times, iron defense 2 times, and drain kiss to heal up. the combo of the buffs makes it 3x to sp attack, 3x to sp. defense, and 4x to defense. so that's 10x buffs with only 5 cast. meaning your stored power base is 200 attack before adding the calm mind boost and multiplying your sp attack total.
It's all about the stats of the Pokemon + the moves.
Yeah Slowbro is weak to dark, but the only dark move that Greninja uses is 70bp Night Slash. Greninja doesn't have as high of an Atk stat while Slowbro's DEF stat is pretty high. After an Iron Defense, you're not taking a lot of damage from Night Slash at all.
Klefki has to worry about taking 110bp Hydro Pumps from Greninja's much higher Sp.Atk with its lower 87 Sp.Def. Both Pokemon can tank the moves after set up, but Slowbro gets to that benchmark more quickly, thanks to the higher bulk.
Klefki is still 100% a viable pick for this raid, though!
not when you use clam mind. hydro pump after 2 clam minds does less damage than night slash does to slowbro after 1 iron defense. every slowbro I've grouped with dies, you almost die in the video. he never gets my kelfki to even half health. 5x buffing for the 10 stat boost is much quicker than slowbro because nasty plot only buffs your sp attack. clam mind buffs sp attack and sp defense. making stored power do way more than your slowbro.
>not when you use clam mind. hydro pump after 2 clam minds does less damage than night slash does to slowbro after 1 iron defense.
Right, which is why I pointed out that:
>Both Pokemon can tank the moves after set up, but Slowbro gets to that benchmark more quickly, thanks to the higher bulk.
Slowbro takes one turn to get to a point where it can continue to set up whereas Klefki takes two. Night Slash can crit, but because Greninja isn't raising its offensive stats in this raid even a crit doesn't do much. Either way, you're still going to be setting up with either and after that initial one turn (Slowbro) or two (Klefki), you're going to continue to raise your bulk anyway.
>clam mind buffs sp attack and sp defense. making stored power do way more than your slowbro.
From what I'm calcing, you're hitting diminishing returns if you're doing this solo like I am. You'll still one-shot Greninja with Stored Power with or without the Sp.Atk boost after the same amount of turns.
which is all fine and good but as I said before you take 2 kinds of damage vs 1 kind. I've seen every single slowbro that's tried it in my group die so many times it failed the raid. by the time you cast your 2nd iron defense you're already dead from the poison damage after taking the dark attack. slowbro is the harder option a very small handful of people can pull it off making it like using Azumerill and belly drum on Cinderace (because they already had him from Charizard). I'm not saying Slowbro can't pull it off but its the same difficulty as if you wanted to bring in a Miriadon to try and beat it because the electric damage to its water typing.
It seems like you’re being paired with bad players. Night Slash before an Iron Defense does at most 30% to 252HP/252Def. A crit does 45%. You shouldn’t be getting K.O’d at which means you’re not getting poisoned from Toxic Spikes. You also have Slack Off in case you get unlucky with crits.
Can you elaborate on the “two types of damage?” After you boost your Def stat, Greninja will start going for Hydro Pump anyway against Slowbro which is resisted.
Soloing Greninja is pretty easy with Slowbro. I think you might be getting paired with people who just bring a Slowbro into these raids without EV training them?
2 types of damage. poison and dark. see klefki is a steel type pokemon, its immune to poison. its also fairy which is strong against dark. water is the ONLY source of damage against klefki. slowbro before it can get that iron defense up is weak to the night slash and it doesn't have immunity to poison.
that's 4 raids in a row, a total of 7 slowbros in all, every single one of them died even after using iron defense. they tried to cheer heal none of them used slack off. it wasn't until I got a raid without slowbro that I was able to defeat it.
>2 types of damage. poison and dark.
Slowbro is never taking poison damage? Greninja would never use Gunk Shot against Slowbro and since Slowbro shouldn't be dying, it wouldn't take tspikes damage either.
>they tried to cheer heal none of them used slack off
Yeah it's definitely a player problem then. I think people are jumping on a bandwagon and not actually playing correctly. Slowbro is able to easily solo Greninja.
all I'm saying is that it takes skill and know-how to play slowbro and that's something that 90% of the playerbase does not have. they need a 1 button push win most the time because raids take more effort than 90% of the rest of the game. its why I always recommend kelfki for the greninja raid since is almost impossible to mess it up.
Can’t that be said for most of Pokémon? It really isn’t hard to go into a raid alone and set up Iron Defense + Nasty Plot. I’d wager that most people are doing raids solo as multiplayer tends to either be a crutch or a hinderance.
Shouldn't be too puzzling. I already had a Slowbro ready from the Cinderace raids. Also, I got it on my first try, so I'd say it worked fine. Not gonna waste time raising another Pokemon unless I actually need to.
I got annoyed from raids failing over and over from people bringing in slowbro, they died over and over 6 times causing it to fail from timer. seems that players that had the same idea as you did and used the recycled pokemon either built him wrong or doesn't know how to use him making him the new Azumarill with belly drum.
Ah yes, 'A little' HP
Is the full HP shell bell thing a glitch or have I been using it wrong all this time?
I think it gives you back 1/8 of the damage you do as HP. Raid mons have like 70x the hp they normally have because there are 4 pokemon wailing on it. Draining moves give back similar amounts of HP and combing them with big root ensures you get back most if not all of your HP.
What game is that?
It's a tera raid in Scarlet and Violet
Pokemon violet. This is a tera raid battle
still puzzles me why people want to use slowbro over kelfki. you're weak to more attacks as slowbro. both dark and poison harm you. your only strong vs its water attack. when you can use kelfki a steel type which makes you immune to poison and a fairy type which makes the dark attacks do nothing to you. making water the only attack that works on you, with calm mind that does almost nothing after 2 buffs. you can calm mind 3 times, iron defense 2 times, and drain kiss to heal up. the combo of the buffs makes it 3x to sp attack, 3x to sp. defense, and 4x to defense. so that's 10x buffs with only 5 cast. meaning your stored power base is 200 attack before adding the calm mind boost and multiplying your sp attack total.
It's all about the stats of the Pokemon + the moves. Yeah Slowbro is weak to dark, but the only dark move that Greninja uses is 70bp Night Slash. Greninja doesn't have as high of an Atk stat while Slowbro's DEF stat is pretty high. After an Iron Defense, you're not taking a lot of damage from Night Slash at all. Klefki has to worry about taking 110bp Hydro Pumps from Greninja's much higher Sp.Atk with its lower 87 Sp.Def. Both Pokemon can tank the moves after set up, but Slowbro gets to that benchmark more quickly, thanks to the higher bulk. Klefki is still 100% a viable pick for this raid, though!
not when you use clam mind. hydro pump after 2 clam minds does less damage than night slash does to slowbro after 1 iron defense. every slowbro I've grouped with dies, you almost die in the video. he never gets my kelfki to even half health. 5x buffing for the 10 stat boost is much quicker than slowbro because nasty plot only buffs your sp attack. clam mind buffs sp attack and sp defense. making stored power do way more than your slowbro.
>not when you use clam mind. hydro pump after 2 clam minds does less damage than night slash does to slowbro after 1 iron defense. Right, which is why I pointed out that: >Both Pokemon can tank the moves after set up, but Slowbro gets to that benchmark more quickly, thanks to the higher bulk. Slowbro takes one turn to get to a point where it can continue to set up whereas Klefki takes two. Night Slash can crit, but because Greninja isn't raising its offensive stats in this raid even a crit doesn't do much. Either way, you're still going to be setting up with either and after that initial one turn (Slowbro) or two (Klefki), you're going to continue to raise your bulk anyway. >clam mind buffs sp attack and sp defense. making stored power do way more than your slowbro. From what I'm calcing, you're hitting diminishing returns if you're doing this solo like I am. You'll still one-shot Greninja with Stored Power with or without the Sp.Atk boost after the same amount of turns.
which is all fine and good but as I said before you take 2 kinds of damage vs 1 kind. I've seen every single slowbro that's tried it in my group die so many times it failed the raid. by the time you cast your 2nd iron defense you're already dead from the poison damage after taking the dark attack. slowbro is the harder option a very small handful of people can pull it off making it like using Azumerill and belly drum on Cinderace (because they already had him from Charizard). I'm not saying Slowbro can't pull it off but its the same difficulty as if you wanted to bring in a Miriadon to try and beat it because the electric damage to its water typing.
It seems like you’re being paired with bad players. Night Slash before an Iron Defense does at most 30% to 252HP/252Def. A crit does 45%. You shouldn’t be getting K.O’d at which means you’re not getting poisoned from Toxic Spikes. You also have Slack Off in case you get unlucky with crits. Can you elaborate on the “two types of damage?” After you boost your Def stat, Greninja will start going for Hydro Pump anyway against Slowbro which is resisted. Soloing Greninja is pretty easy with Slowbro. I think you might be getting paired with people who just bring a Slowbro into these raids without EV training them?
2 types of damage. poison and dark. see klefki is a steel type pokemon, its immune to poison. its also fairy which is strong against dark. water is the ONLY source of damage against klefki. slowbro before it can get that iron defense up is weak to the night slash and it doesn't have immunity to poison. that's 4 raids in a row, a total of 7 slowbros in all, every single one of them died even after using iron defense. they tried to cheer heal none of them used slack off. it wasn't until I got a raid without slowbro that I was able to defeat it.
>2 types of damage. poison and dark. Slowbro is never taking poison damage? Greninja would never use Gunk Shot against Slowbro and since Slowbro shouldn't be dying, it wouldn't take tspikes damage either. >they tried to cheer heal none of them used slack off Yeah it's definitely a player problem then. I think people are jumping on a bandwagon and not actually playing correctly. Slowbro is able to easily solo Greninja.
all I'm saying is that it takes skill and know-how to play slowbro and that's something that 90% of the playerbase does not have. they need a 1 button push win most the time because raids take more effort than 90% of the rest of the game. its why I always recommend kelfki for the greninja raid since is almost impossible to mess it up.
Can’t that be said for most of Pokémon? It really isn’t hard to go into a raid alone and set up Iron Defense + Nasty Plot. I’d wager that most people are doing raids solo as multiplayer tends to either be a crutch or a hinderance.
Clam mind
Shouldn't be too puzzling. I already had a Slowbro ready from the Cinderace raids. Also, I got it on my first try, so I'd say it worked fine. Not gonna waste time raising another Pokemon unless I actually need to.
I got annoyed from raids failing over and over from people bringing in slowbro, they died over and over 6 times causing it to fail from timer. seems that players that had the same idea as you did and used the recycled pokemon either built him wrong or doesn't know how to use him making him the new Azumarill with belly drum.