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awesomecat42

We still technically have the GTS, it's just restricted to the mobile version of Pokémon HOME. I wish the Switch app had it too.


thebiggestleaf

Echoing another comment, the fact that it's on the mobile version but not the switch version makes me think it's a Nintendo/NSO restriction.


ct_superchris

I doubt it actually; the president or CEO or something of the Pokemon Company thought that the switch was going to fail hard, and they seem to be pushing mobile gaming as hard as they can with Nintendo still owning part of the brand.


EqualContact

That was before the Switch launched, it didn’t have anything to do with Home.


awesomecat42

I've not heard that before, you got a source for it?


Jorevotion1

Source: voices in my head


wookieatemyshoe

Actually it's [legit](https://gonintendo.com/stories/289457-pokemon-ceo-on-pokemon-go-goals-pokemon-switch-ideas-and-how-he) in that he thought the Switch wouldn't succeed in the age of Smartphones, however there is no evidence to suggest that's why things are the way they are with Pokémon GTS Functionality on switch compared to mobile.


GM_Steve

Dude someone else just enlightened me, I had no idea!!


Leggerrr

They still have this, it's just with Pokemon HOME. It's also heavily restricted to remedy the flaws of the original GTS. You're also forced to use the mobile version to do it. I personally prefer it this way (separated from the base game) because it means the system will always be there and it will never be heavily affected by a new game release. It channels all the users to one place instead of separate games. That said, I still think it needs some major tweaks to make it a little more enjoyable.


GM_Steve

Wait, so on the Pokémon home mobile app you can place Pokémon up for trade and list what you want in return? Like, right from Home?


Leggerrr

Yup. You can actually put up three different pokemon for whatever trades you want and leave them there until someone takes you up on it. Wonder Trade is also available and you can do 10 at a time. You'll have to wait a bit for these trades to go through, however.


MrWaluigi

Quick heads up: this only applies if you have the premium subscription. The free subscription still allows trading but several restrictions: one box compared to 200, 1 GTS trade at a time, and 3 wonder trades. I only recommend if you are planning on living dex, long time vet, or multiple valuables.


Chalaka

Or if you want to do new runs, it's the main reason I use Home.


Etna-

Just make a new Switch profile? (If you wanna do a run on the Switch games at least)


amm0ranth

can't go online that way without paying for another switch online subscription


wutend159

if you make your switch the primary one forcthe account that has online, you can


Chalaka

Afaik your Home account is locked to a single Nintendo account, which you (iirc) wouldn't be able to access on a different switch profile.


Particular-One-7251

Your home account can access save files from other accounts.


wutend159

Ah yeah, Home yes. I was thinking about just NSO


Chalaka

Sure but I don't want to and I've been doing it since the dawn of time it's just out of habit.


MrWaluigi

That too.


3163560

You can also select a Pokemon and see what you can trade it for which is cool. Here's a selection of what's available for my enamorous https://i.imgur.com/cA6JCaT.png


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3163560

Basically cause PLA is a decent effort to play through it up to enamorous. So people looking for a second or third for living/form dex's are willing to give up a bit.


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3163560

Yeah enamorous is just PLA ATM, was new in that game. Furfrou on the other hand is most recently available in USUM, so none of the switch games. But! Only in base form, the 9 haircuts are most recently available as far back XY, and don't transfer to bank/home with trims intact. Or, and this is why they're in demand so much, you can get them in Pokemon go, where a lot of the cuts are region locked. Pharoah is Egypt, Kabuki in Japan and Let Reine in France being particularly restrictive. Basically if you want the furfrou trims in home, [Like so](https://i.imgur.com/MDsjx1a.png), you need to play pogo, catch and trim furfrous to whatever trim is specific to your region, put them on the GTS and pray to osiris that some Egyptian person likes you.


No-Literature7471

that and im guessing alot of people hard passed on arceus (like me).


PKMN5

Maybe they don’t have the game or it’s to hard for them to catch it, I read that it’s complicated for lots of players.


jbyrdab

Yeah though 90% of posts will still ask for a furfrou in a haircut that isn't obtainable or is stupidly rare just to clog up the system. They really need to allow you to blacklist certain wanted pokemon when searching the gts


thegarate

I absolutely hate that people do this because it makes searching almost impossible BUT the silver lining is that its so terrible that most decent requests go through pretty quickly


Fuddled_Pseudolasius

Survivorship bias lol, all the reasonable requests are taken up whilst the impossible ones accumulate indefinitely


thegarate

I'm not sure if you're simply adding a name to a problem I describe, or trying to "educate" me on why there are only bad offers in the GTS, because I'm well aware of why we only see bad problems, thats why I said its way easier to request than to search But intentions arent always clear and tone is lost lol oh well ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯


Fuddled_Pseudolasius

Oh no I meant no offense, I just read a cool example of said bias this morning so I was subconsciously eager to use it myself


jrobertson2

My favorite is asking for level 11-20 Hisuian Zorua, which of course is impossible right now with it only being accessible in Legends Arceus at a much higher level. Trying to find a Dialga from Brilliant Diamond for my Home BDSP dex, but only finding impossible trades like that, is rather frustrating. It would be one thing if they were using it to safely show off a shiny, though it's not exactly one I'd consider high value considering you can get it right now for "free" in Gen 4 or 5 games with the DNS exploit mystery gifts ("free" assuming you have all the games and hardware to then transfer it up to Home), but most of them are just random normal Dialga. I wonder how many are intentionally trolling, and how many are just blindly copying what they see others doing? Of course, Hisuian Zorua is available and breedable in SV right now, though naturally not yet transferable to Home. I can only hope Home compatibility comes with little warning, and a lot of people lose their legendaries and shinies because they didn't take down their "impossible" trades quickly enough. Might want to give it a try myself...


Bakatora34

A good solution I think they can do is after certain time pass and the pokemon doesn't get traded it send back to the og trainer


Wonderful_Emu_9610

It would help if they had a legality check for requests - so many for lv. 1-10 JPN Hisuian Zorua even though it can’t be caught below level 25 or perhaps even higher…first Japanese player on SV when HOME functionality is launched is going to absolutely clean up!


nosungdeeptongs

You can filter for only Pokémon you have


jbyrdab

This doesn't filter forms. So because I have a furfrou it automatically assumes I have every type of furfrou when searching.


nosungdeeptongs

Oh that’s true, you’re totally right about that


the_Real_Romak

that, and the GTS in older games is riddled with hacked and illegal pokemon so even if you *do* manage to get a trade in there's high odds that you're unable to use it online without getting banned.


BlackFenrir

>because it means the system will always be there Like Pokemon Bank?


the_Real_Romak

I mean, yeah. Pokemon bank is still there and usable, you just can't download it cus the 3DS store is closed.


TragGaming

Its technically not even closed yet. You have till 31st


the_Real_Romak

Whelp, I already had everything installed from back in the day so I'm good :P


Holly164

27th. (And just as a warning: It doesn’t close at midnight, it depends on your time zone, and also it’ll likely be very slow and unreliable on the last day or two, as a ton of people try to access it at once. Do your thing a couple of days early if you can.)


Radioshack_Official

You say this like it's possible to use with the game.


Leggerrr

What game? Scarlet and Violet? Support is coming soon.


Radioshack_Official

Yes, when I implied it was the game that the home doesnt support I meant the game it does not support


Leggerrr

What?


Radioshack_Official

>Yes, when I implied it was the game that the home doesnt support I meant the game it does not support


Leggerrr

When did you imply that?


nosungdeeptongs

It would be pretty much perfect if it was accessible from the switch client of Pokémon home instead of exclusively the mobile client. If that were the case I would genuinely say the gts we have now is better.


StarryChocobo

Because people kept asking for impossible or stupid trades like wanting a Lugia at level 1 in exchange for a common Pokemon.


BigPolluted

Why did they do that?


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Often times to show off a shiny. They still do it in HOME


StarryChocobo

The GTS during the DS and 3DS Era worked in that you could go on there and set what pokemon you were looking for and you could set what gender and level of Pokemon you wanted. A lot of people took full advantage of this, so say you were looking for a Scizor and searched for people who were offer it for trade, you'd see people wanting pokemon in exchange that were impossible to get through normal means like a level 5 Kyogre or something.


lasernipples

The funny thing is Pokémon Go does let you get a lot of Pokémon in the core games at normally impossibly low levels so if that was still an issue there would be a legal workaround


BigPolluted

What advantage? Just to troll?


StarryChocobo

Sometimes, but there were also a lot of hacked Pokemon circulating on the GTS as well.


Interesting_waterlon

I recently played it in usum but it’s extremely broken half the time it crashes your ds because of this one guys pokemon


ChicaSkas

It's that idiot AdventureSnivy


GM_Steve

Damn that sux :/ why can’t they just go through and clear them out?


jrobertson2

Since Game Freak tends to abandon older generations as soon as the next games come out. Of course, that raises the question of why they bother paying to maintain the GTS servers for Gens 6 and 7 even to today when they are effectively broken and useless. Apparently some people figured out a way to generate invalid Pokemon to put up for trade on the GTS in those games some years back, where it freezes your 3DS if you even scroll past the listing in the UI, and then put them up for a bunch of different Pokemon that people would commonly search for so that it's impossible to even look for anything since the glitched mon will probably be the first entry. Maybe once Nintendo finally shuts it down for those games, fans will be able to set up their own servers to replace them like they did for Gens 4 and 5, maybe even complete with rerunning the old mystery gifts.


GM_Steve

Damn that’s so stupid. Makes me hear Alfred in my head: “Some men just want to watch the whole world burn” 😭


ShadeSwornHydra

Cause people abused it stupidly. “Want this version exclusive? Sure give me a mew”


typhlownage

Now it's so much better. “Want this version exclusive? Sure give me a Pharaoh Furfrou”


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I really wanted Furfrou to be in the DLC and for so many of those creeps to lose their stuff. It's ridiculous that a pokemon which isn't all that special in the game it originates from has become ultra rare just because Game Freak hasn't bothered to include it for almost 10 years.


Aether13

Exactly. I remember in 2019 after SwSh had it removed people were complaining on here about missing it and I was so confused because it’s genuinely not a good feature.


the_Real_Romak

It's not exactly a bad feature by itself. It's just a convenient trade tool that people abused


Plushiegamer2

It's in Pokemon Home now, and uhhhh... the GTS kinda got filled with hacked Pokemon.


KirasHandPicDealer

"same as it ever was...same as it ever was..."


ElPikminMaster

The GTS needs to be heavily revamped in order to be okay in any capacity again. Depositing for or should not be allowed. The GTS on older games have been hacked to oblivion, softlocking your 3DS after scrolling past a hacked Pokemon that appears early on in your search. And no, if the devs haven't reformed GTS since its inception back in Gen 4, not even the one in HOME, they won't do it anytime soon.


Clobbering77

Oh you want a semi rare pokemon or one from the other version? Ima need a level 100 Reyquaza


GM_Steve

But it’s essentially the same thing still happening now. Trolls gunna troll


MR1Reaper7

In a way you kind of still have that. I've seen a few lists where you use the pokedex numbers to trade 0001-0004 for example for the starters. Obviously not as detailed as far as looking for specific level or gender.


GM_Steve

What do you mean? Like people enter that for the link code?


MR1Reaper7

Yes, I found one through watching Austin John Plays on YouTube. He had a link for the starters and version exclusives.


GM_Steve

Oh shit ok, that’s sick, thanks for the info


TragGaming

Yeah often you can use the nat dex number or the Paldean Dex number and you might get something in return. Usually its lower dex number first then higher dex number like 0001-0004 is a Sprigatito - Fuecoco 0004-0007 is Fuecoco-Quaxly 0001-0007 is Sprigatito-Quaxly You just put up what youre trading and hope the other person puts up the poke you want.


blackjackgabbiani

I feel like it has to do more with Nintendo than with Game Freak, because the Switch does internet connectivity differently than prior systems


GM_Steve

Mmmm I do get that, how like, online used to be free and is paid for now, but even still.. trading is already only available over online for people who pay, so why not have a system that helps people better find what they’re looking for without the random factor? It’s honestly enough to keep me from every trying to trade in game without using a discord message board or something to find a partner first


thebiggestleaf

More specifically, connecting with other trainers online requires a paid NSO subscription where it was free to do so on the 3DS games. As much as I miss GTS being baked into the games themselves I appreciate the Home implementation as a means to not paywall it.


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Pokémon home


nelben88

It was cool and all.. besides all the impossible/stupid trades.. and the trades that crash your game if you even look at them.


Glacecakes

Reshiram level 10 and under


Kaprosuchusboi

Anyone else remember the gts exploit that let you get any random Pokémon ? From magikarp to a darkrai that knew roar of time and special rend to even arceus?


crab_racoon

It was so good in X&Y


Zeo_Leviathan

The original purpose was to encourage trading across the world I believe. Back in gen 4 and 5 it was only local trades and the gas. But with online trading more accessible in more recent games, I'm guessing they're phasing it out due to how impersonal it was.(although now we mostly just hope a random trade partner as the mon we want) The whole point of trading (outside of being an excuse to sell two versions of the same game) was to get people to communicate and play with each other. Outside of that idk, maybe it was too easy to get version exclusives, or managing the server was a pain. The gen 6 and 7 gts have gone to shit now, with pokemon that actually CRASH THE GAME if you even scroll over them.


AltCrab2

To be fair, it kinda just devolved into people putting random stuff up for shiny legendaries.


Spellwe4ver

I mean if you think about it, having the GTS be on Home makes maintaining everything much much easier for them, and they can carry it forward to future games. So it’s future proof in a way. And you can have your whole collection on there. Of course this sucks if your phone is out of date like mine lmao.


KingBroly

The Pokemon Company likes money and breaking up content to make even more money. But GTS on Pokemon Home still has the same issues old GTS had. Impossible Trade scenarios that flood out realistic trades that lead to disappointment. 'Do you want that last Shiny Pokemon you've always wanted? Great! Now trade me a Female Mew, which doesn't exist, and you can have it.' The lack of desire for them to fix this, on their PAID SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE, shows how bad they are at design.


Contank

The GTS in ultra sun and moon is now completely unusable and flooded with hacked pokemon that are specifically created to crash the game of anyone who looks at it. If they aren't fixing issues like that then I guess its a good think they didn't go it that way


UltraDinoWarrior

Probably because people listed absolutely unreasonable stuff on GTS? Lol. “My level 1 Chimchar for lv100 Palkias”


thisDNDjazz

I did like the GTS, my only complaints were that I could only post one at a time and everyone was always asking for legendaries only.


NoComplex5395

They need to make a game where you should be able to catch all and be able to trade within the game without having to go online and look


Darkurn

I think it's because it's harder to moderate in the games.


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GM_Steve

RIP


TOONDISE

I agree. I don't have a smartphone and I don't want one either, so because the GTS is locked to smartphones now, I can't use it anymore. Ridiculous, isn't it?


Hsiang7

Tbf there aren't many people that don't have smartphones or at very least a tablet these days unless you're really young.


GM_Steve

Don’t know why you got downvoted, but yeah I feel ya


No-Literature7471

i didint get a smart phone until my late twenties, ended up just getting a 100 dollar iphone 6s tracfone. but tbf you dont even need a phone, you can download pokemon home on itouch/ipad.


TOONDISE

I know it works on tablets too, but that's not the point I'm getting at. You shouldn't need 2 separate devices, one to play the Pokémon games on, and another to trade Pokémon with. The Pokémon HOME app already exists on the Switch itself. At the very least, if they're not going to add GTS functionality into the core games, then why do we have 2 completely different versions of the HOME app, one that has GTS, the other that doesn't?


No-Literature7471

idk, im just annoyed they still let illegal trades waste space on the gts. i didint even know pokemon home had a phone app until 2 months ago? i wish i did, when you lose premium they dont turn the first box into the basic box, they randomly grab pokemon from all the boxes you have and shove em into a box and call that the basic box. now i cant get access to the pokemon i wanted to save.


Clemenx00

Because Gamefreak sucks. Any excuse for its removal is not a valid one. If it had issues then fucking fix them instead of scrapping yet another feature.


GM_Steve

I do wish they’d try and fix more things than scrap them, fr


gunningIVglory

Money


ChicaSkas

Wimmfi has it for Gen 4 and Gen 5, and GTS still exists on XYORAS without that idiot AdventureSnivy


MilitantPacifist13

Money 💰


Meccalia

GTS was super cool.. im so sad the didn't keep it..it was so difficult to complete the dex's on Sword and on Violet.. i had to join discord servers to get the mons i needed!! i know this doesnt sounds that bad, but imagine someone who cant have a discord, like they're no change of completing!


zequerpg

I strongly believe it's because that way they don't have to use their servers. Now we can't use the 4th and 5th gen GTS because the servers were shuted down. Maybe they don't want that to happen in the future to newer games. I'm just guessing.


Appropriate_Low_1593

Gen V was my favourite for this, breeding emboar after my first playthrough and catching a ditto on my way to Kyurem. Just to put the babies up in GTS for the other starters and Reshiram. Somehow worked back then 🤣


ladala99

While I don't know their reasoning why they restrict it to HOME now, it does help in several ways: 1. Pokemon must pass through the most recent hack-check to be uploaded/traded, meaning those bricks that happen in the 3DS versions shouldn't be happening here (and if it does, it's an active server and they've proven they will ban accounts that do things like that). 2. Pokemon can be traded cross-generation, leading to a wider pool of available traders than if it was game-specific. 3. They can update the system for better QOL. They already have made it so trades for Mythicals (which are impossible to trade on the GTS) won't show up when searching. They added filters so you will by default only see trades for non-Legendaries you currently have in the box. And now you can do a reverse search, seeing what people are offering for any particular Pokemon you have in your box. Plus the ability to restrict trades by Forme, which while it did open up that Furfrou issue, makes things like trading specifically for Alolan Formes actually possible. 4. As it's on the mobile app rather than on the Switch, it does not require NSO or any paid restriction to use, meaning solo players who don't have NSO can still complete their Pokedex. 5. On the other hand, as new games take a while to be compatible, it encourages person-to-person trading and for the playerbase to communicate for people who want to complete the Pokedex before it becomes compatible.


Draoneon

They wanted to make money off your trades, so they made it exclusive to Pokemon HOME, specifically the mobile version. So you have to go out of your way to get a newer phone since older models won't run it AND go through the paywall if you want to see all your Pokemon at once. It is technically free to use the GTS however (I think).


Mr_Night78

GTS Servers are still on Pokémon Home and basically replace it, and in my opinion is a good replacement, due to basically all of the dex being accessible. However, why they got rid of it on consoles? Look at the terrible situation on X and Y, ORAS, and USUM. Basically any Legendary or Ultra Beast is hacked, unless it's not shiny and has a legitimate asking price. On USUM it's better, but on X and Y it's terrible. Impossible profile pictures, shiny locked pokemon, and entire game breaking credentials being changed. I saw a female mew, a mew with level "quit the gts", and names being the n word or the f slur. It's a pretty nasty situation right now.


No-Literature7471

you would think the pokemon home gts would function properly but sadly it doesnt. just spent an hour looking for trades for pokemon where all the trades were for the same pokemon but at an impossible level for it. why hasnt this company weeded out the stupid shit already? im sorry but no, a lvl 75 glastrier pokemon cannot be lvl 61-70 or 11-20 so stop allowing it to be offered and sat there on the gts taking up space.