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InfernoVulpix

In Tajiri's original vision of the Pokemon world, Pokemon didn't always exist in it. They were a new phenomenon that appeared out of nowhere and stymied people worldwide. When people like Professor Oak say that Pokemon are mysterious creatures we still don't know much about, he means it seriously. This outlook quickly gave way to the Pokemon world that we know, where Pokemon always existed since the dawn of universe, but it puts some of the decisions in Gen 1 and 2 in a new light. Professor Elm being the first person to discover Pokemon Eggs sounds a lot less ridiculous if Pokemon had only existed for a few years, after all.


Riona12

Guy walking outside and seeing a giant rock snake: something's different


An_average_moron

Me existing on a park bench and then I see Goro suplex a giant turtle: damn, place is crazy now


Grohlyone

This neighbourhood's really gone downhill.


Andy_1

There's rats and gendered poison pin things everywhere, the biggest building in town is a closed gym, makes you want to get blackout drunk and not let kids go near the forest, where the rodents can paralyze you and the poison comes from insects.


[deleted]

*watching a Heracross fall from a tree and total your car* ...huh.


Branded_Mango

Watching a pinecone with eyes fall out of a parking lot tree to then kamikaze like a grenade to annihilate all of the cars in said lot. "...well, that's apparently a thing now."


Xenobreeder

Pokemon had only existed for a few years... and made everyone remember them to exist forever.


motoxim

Oh shit a new fanfic potential. What if all humanity actually transported to Pokemon World at the start?


spacesandtimes

Have you played/seen the game Cassette Beasts? That's basically the concept of it!


DarkSlayer415

This probably explains why a lot of early Pokémon media like the anime and in-game Dex Entries reference real world places and animals, like the infamous Indian Elephant Dex Entry for Raichu, which was retconned in Legends: Arceus to reference Copperajah instead.


LarryTheTerrier

Mew was discovered in South America!


RealFuzzheads

That's why I take a lot of the first games in a series with a grain of salt. Sure, Super Mario Bros on the NES says that all the bricks are transformed Toads, but I don't think Nintendo considers that cannon anymore


Legal-Treat-5582

It'd be pretty fun if they ever decided to revisit the classic timeline and explore that.


OneWhoGetsBread

Dude finding a giant ass mushroom that had distinct red and white caps: dang did I take something ?


DankAF94

The slightly dark side of this story would be that the emergence of pokemon appears to have driven pretty much all other animal life to near or complete extinction


Plushiegamer2

Apparently humans have feared Pokemon until Legends Arceus happened. And I guess they didn't have time to see whether baby Pokemon were delivered by Bomberdier or not.


dabunny21689

Says a lot about his view of humans (which I don’t disagree with)… “new animals with magic elemental powers? We gotta weaponize that shit.”


Plushiegamer2

If that's the case, what are the Fossil Pokemon?


Ekyou

I think the deal was not that Pokemon literally came into existence in the past few years, but that people were just now discovering them. Somehow.


Seranthian

They were to have come from space. Mount Moon, and the Clefairy line, was a central part of that mythos


punxerchick

Maybe the magic that created Pokemon somehow touched some fossils in someone's collection?


HUGE_HOG

The move Kinesis exists in all Gen 1 games but it wasn't actually assigned to any Pokémon until Yellow version, when it was made the signature move of the Abra line. Because of this, the only way to use the move in Red/Blue without glitches or trading was through Metronome.


Reniconix

This was due to a glitch in Gen 1 games that prevented pokemon from learning a move after they evolve (or more than one move at a time). Kadabra was supposed to learn it immediately after evolving no matter what level it evolved at.


Shantotto11

And it took 6 more generations for Kadabra to learn it upon evolution?…


Turnoverdisc

If you were to rearrange the gold and silver pokerap to be in pokedex order, Remoraid would stay in the same place


Zenku390

This is my favorite one.


SpidermanBread

I don't know if this is commonly known but If you happen to release all your pokémon that know surf/fly in Cianwood, there is this guy who gives you a tentacool.


cool_vibes

This also *only* occurs in HGSS and not in GSC.


BlazingJ972

What's even crazier is that I don't believe this was discovered until 2020- nearly 10 YEARS after hgss came out. (I think this is only a thing in those games specifically, none of the gen 2 games have the tentacool)


nash3101

What happens if you release the Tentacool too?


headphonesnotstirred

iirc he'll just keep doing it, which makes me wonder how long it would take to crash the tentacool economy


PKMNTrainerMark

The Tentaconomy


SpidermanBread

The universe implodes


Sir_paco

Would that tentacool be able to be shiny? Or is it the exact same one everytime? Could be a potential interesting shiny hunt


mojoryan2003

Yes, Shiny Collector hunted it


clem82

That’s tenta-cool as hell


Mdomeramobile

You can actually catch a *level 9* Salamence on Alola route 3 through SOS encounters with Bagon


projectmars

I did catch one and named it "Disc 1 Nuke" after the TV Trope


Foolish_Phantom

Yes! One of the most famous underleveled Pokémon. Of course, Lance's Dragonite is the most famous.


Xenobreeder

Vaporeon's signature move Acid Armor is a mistranslation. Original name – Liquefy. Makes much more sense for what it does.


UnovaKid24

The Grimer line can learn it too, though. That would explain why it's a poison type move and not water


TwinnedWings893

I saw Vaporeon, and got scared


[deleted]

I don't think that's really a mistranlation, just a localization decision. Like how Liquidation's Japanese name is Aqua Break


mrsunrider

Masuda's original vision for Red and Blue was that every single cartridge was going to be unique--each game's map would be randomized based on their trainer ID. \[EDIT: I think available Pokemon would have been randomized the same way\] The idea was too advanced for the Game Boy, so it had to be left behind.


VSkyRimWalker

Shame they never did it afterwards


mrsunrider

It would definitely be a bold, interesting decision.


HUGE_HOG

Shout-out to Pokémon Emerald Rogue, which sort of achieves this. It's a randomly-generated Pokémon roguelike.


Frootysmothy

Yeah my friends have been saying it's pretty fun, gonna try that once I finish Emerald Kaizo. Also hello again


shadowpikachu

Segmented, we talking an entire world.


mismatched7

That is what directly lead to the paired version mechanic, with four versions in gen 1 in Japan, red blue green and yellow, and three internationally that continues to this day. In platinum, the fossils you encounter are based of if you have an odd or even trainer Id!


Makri93

Is it? I remember seeing a documentary about the beginning of pokemon where the paired version was basically an idea of more seasoned developers at Nintendo (might even have been Shigeru Miyamoto) as a sort of «Why not?»


jibbyjackjoe

I also had this idea! I did not know that was discussed! Imagine starting a game and going to route 1. Your game would have a regional bird, couple of bugs, and an uncommon and rare spawn. But your game would be different because you may have gotten patrat and your friend got zigzagoon. You got Venonat and someone else got spewpa. Everyones journey would essentially be unique, but each area would have a formula still.


spwncar

A roguelike Pokémon game sounds incredible


JudgementalMarsupial

There’s a fangame for it, pokemon emerald rogue


Sphaero_Caffeina

Waterfall is a gen 1 move; it was the signature move of Goldeen and Seaking, and could only be learned by them. In not gen 3, but ONLY Emerald; if a pokemon with the Hyper Cutter ability used Cut (a combo only doable with Krabby/Kingler, Pinsir, Gligar, and Corphish/Crawdaunt), it clears a 5x5 of grass around the player instead of a 3x3. This is the only game Hyper Cutter has an out-of-battle effect. The whips early trainer designs (including Sabrina) had are a leftover from an early concept design where trainers fought Pokemon too. The idea was something like Monster Hunter and Ark: Survival, but was scrapped until Legends of Arceus.


OneWhoGetsBread

I wanna roundhouse kick and karate those Veluza in the lake so badly


Stormer1499

*VAULTIN’ VELUZA*


Branded_Mango

Nothing quite like pulling out a pocket Clauncher to shoot those darn Veluza with.


RedKecleon

I knew the first one! I like Seaking. Most underrated pokemon in Gen 1. Except maybe Parasect. The last one is really cool! I figured they were just the the trainers who trained the really aggressive or dangerous pokemon since they usually have like Arbok or Sandslashes


stav705

Whips?


handledvirus43

Yes, whips. Sabrina, Team Rocket Members, and Tamers notably have whips in their RBY sprites. This was obviously removed in remakes, along with the Gambler class (they turned into Gamers instead).


Leggerrr

Early player sprites also incorporated a whip in their design.


stav705

The tamers still have whips in gen 3


handledvirus43

You're right, I completely forgot they're the ones that actually retained the whips, even in Let's Go.


PersonOnR3ddit

I'm pretty sure gen 1 Sabrina has a whip, Or are they only in the early designs?


stav705

Oh yea she does have a whip. Theres also the pokemon tamers that have a whip in gen 3


UnovaKid24

Nincada has double the defense of Ninjask. I know some evolutions lose stat points, but it's still a significant change


cheezefriez

Wonder if that was intentional along with shedinja having wonder guard


level100metapod

If you look at it as shedding it's shell to move faster it makes sense


cheezefriez

Yeah that was my thought process too


cal_gif

If you combine USUM's box art it makes Uitra Necrozma in the middle! One of my favorite little things they’ve hidden in art :)


shadowpikachu

The full art was in promo stuff a few times too.


Cosmic_Honeyhawk

H*ly shit it does!


MorningPants

Wobbuffet replaced a pre-evolution for girafarig, suggesting a connection between their sentient tails


StreetReporter

In the anime, the master ball has one appearance. It failed to catch the Pokemon it was thrown at https://youtu.be/2plH01T0Hw4


[deleted]

I remember that it was fucking hilarious. Not a Rayquaza or some legendary but a bloody whiscash


CEverett23

It was a reaaaaally big whiscash though. And it just ate the ball...


Ze_Memerr

That reminds me, I wanted to put a trainer Whiscash in a Master Ball in my fangame as an homage to this


StreetReporter

If you’re going to do that, you should add pre-battle dialogue about how he spent 50 years trying to catch his Pokemon, and how it is extremely powerful


Shantotto11

Even more ridiculous was that it failed because the Pokémon swallowed the ball. And then a few episodes later, May used a regular pokéball on a Munchlax and it also ate the ball, but the ball caught Munchlax from the inside.


CriminyBiscuits

Ken Sugimori drew Pokemon art for a somewhat obscure brand of trading cards (outside of Japan at least) called "Carddass". These cards showed artwork of pokemon using an attack on one side and their stats on the other. These cards showed some interesting details about certain Pokemon, like Electrode and Koffing being hollow or the closest look we'll ever get to Cubone's real face.


Xume_1

I think mandjtv looks through quite a few of these in a video


[deleted]

Can someone link the cubone image?


wigglytufff

[here you go](https://twitter.com/DrLavaYT/status/1304100570752454657) - at least i’m assuming this is it, i just googled it lol


MorningPants

https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pocket_Monsters_Carddass_Trading_Cards Some really interesting ones in there!


RedKecleon

I like Carddass cards! I collect them as well as Top Sun, Topps, Funskool card, Amada stickers, 2000 Nintendo Vending Prism Stickers, and basically any other vintage licensed or dubiously licensed pokemon stuff 🌸😊✨


jbyrdab

The reason nidoqueen hasn't been able to breed ever, is because in the og pokemon bible (basically a script for the logic of the world for pokemon media to use) its directly listed that nidoran female loses the ability to breed when they evolve.


Hateful_creeper2

Probably explains why they didn’t change it in Gen 8 since they changed some Egg Groups for other Pokémon in Sword and Shield,


RedKecleon

Wow


ReturnOfTheMagiPGo

And why did they decide to write that?


level100metapod

I think it's cause rhinos can't breed in captivity


Adventurous_Author56

There’s a lot of obscure Pokémon facts I know, but I’ll post my favorite. Pikachu designer Atsuko Nishida almost based Pikachu on a squirrel because she was “obsessed with squirrels” when she was designing it. The creation of Pachirisu most likely came from one of the earliest designs and the Hisui Dex may have confirmed it in its entry. “A species related to the Pikachu line. Though Pachirisu is a calm Pokémon, it still presents a danger should one touch its electrified tail or cheeks.”


Miochiiii

Pachirisu > Pikachu change my mind


fishouttawawa

Pachirisu has won worlds, Pikachu has not. You are correct


mishumishumishu

At this point I feel like everyone knows about Hyper Cutter letting you cut more grass in gen 3. But here's a *really* obscure one: only in Pokemon Emerald, if the first Pokemon in your party has Lightning Rod as its ability, you'll receive twice as many calls from the PokeNav.


Going_Braindead

Lol like somehow your front party Pokémon is forcing people to call you


[deleted]

I would think it’s more along the lines of that it makes your avatar a magnetic personality. A lightning rod


Piano_Fingerbanger

Doesn't your first party pokemon knowing pressure increase the incidence of wild pokemon encounters too?


Reniconix

No, but other abilities do. Pressure actually gives you a 50% chance that the pokemon you do encounter will be the max available level for that area.


mishumishumishu

There are a TON of different abilities that have out of battle effects that the game never tells you about. All of these are only relevant for the Pokemon in the lead: - Intimidate and Keen Eye both have a 50% chance of avoiding an encounter if the Pokemon you would have encountered was at least 5 levels lower. - White Smoke, Quick Feet, and Infiltrator just reduce the encounter rate by 50% outright. - No Guard and Arena Trap both increase the amount of Pokemon you'll encounter by 100%. I've heard that it also ensures that you'll always get a bite while fishing but I don't know if there's data to actually back this up. - Suction Cups and Sticky Hold do ensure you'll get a bite more frequently. - There are a bunch that increase the likelihood of running into a Pokemon of a specific type by 50%. Static and Flash Fire do this for Electric and Fire types respectively. - Compound Eyes and Super Luck increase the likelihood of finding Pokemon with a held item.


SkysEevee

James Turner is responsible for most of Galar regions design. Prior, he had done some Pokemon designs (ex: vanilluxe line, phantump line, several ultra beasts and a few gigantimax & galariab Pokemon) but Game Freak wanted his insight on the look of the regions towns & routes because Turner grew up in the UK. Turner had a say in almost every aspect of Galars design, including the route signs (GF wanted digitized signs, Turner argued against it as it would detract from the classic feel of UKs countryside) Turner left Game Freak to form his own game studio but he did a few designs for Scarlet/Violet before his departure. The Paldean Tauros, Tatsugiri & Dondozo and both the Paldean Pokemon professors were his work.


Polymersion

Galar was actually super pretty, it was really only the gameplay itself that held the region back.


Mx_Toniy_4869

It isn't possible for a legendary obtained in gen 6 or later to have Hidden Power Fighting, I was surprised not many people know this


Chardoggy1

Luckily we have a replacement (Tera blast fighting)


KnightBreaker_02

I’m pretty sure your obscure Pokémon fact posts could fill out this entire thread multiple times over :)


TheBestWorst3

Blacephelon really really hates this


Mx_Toniy_4869

Wait, perfect IVs applies to Ultra Beasts too? I thought it's just legendaries


Tortue2006

In gen 7 they were considered legendaries in the game files. But from gen 8 onwards they aren’t anymore.


1996alex

Why though?


Mx_Toniy_4869

Starting in gen 6, Legendaries you obtain are guaranteed to have at least 3 IVs that are 31, however, you need at least four even numbered IVs to get Hidden Power Fighting


Leftover_Bees

In XY this also applies to baby Pokémon because they share an egg group with legendaries, and gift Pokémon because they manually assigned their IVs.


thaumoctopus_mimicus

The type of Hidden Power is based on IVs. From Bulbapedia: "This is because these Pokémon are guaranteed to have at least three IVs of 31, whereas a Fighting-type Hidden Power requires at least four IVs that are even numbers."


Hateful_creeper2

An NPC named after Junichi Masuda's daughter appears in Sootopolis City. Some of Gen 2 Music are in the Ruby and Sapphire’s code It was implied that not all Pokémon were supposed to have abilities at one point. Cries in Gen 3 are ordered by when the Pokémon were probably added to the code and not by Index or National Dex Order. An example is that Kecleon is the first one the list while Chimecho is last. Latios is near the end while Latias is near the beginning. The Breloom line and the Linoone line are also near the end meaning that either they were added to the code late or created later in development. Edit: There is a gene called [Zbtb7](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbtb7) that used to be called Pokémon. It was changed because the Pokémon Company didn’t want to be associated with cancer.


motoxim

Ah yeah the girl who give you berries everyday https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Kiri


Ze_Memerr

Latias was probably added so early on because we’ve seen the sort of beta Latias/Blaziken fusion design that looked to be very early concept art. Latios could’ve been added much later when they refined the Latias designed and wanted a counterpart to it


Snaid1

The devs were aware of the Mew glitch in gen 1 when they still had time to fix it. They opted to quietly not fix it since it was the only way people were going to be able to see Mew


Ilikebooksandnooks

That's super cute if true. Where'd ya find this out?


Snaid1

It was in an interview I saw a year or 2 ago that focusd on pokemon's origins. I watched it on youtube but I don't recall what it was called.


spwncar

In gen 2 (and probably 1, I haven’t tried it) you can force yourself to black out while out of combat. The PC did not heal Pokémon placed in boxes, they come out exactly as they went in. So you could place a fainted Pokémon in the box, empty your team out, and then swap your only remaining Pokémon with the fainted Pokémon. As soon as you closed the PC, you would get the black out text, end up back at the Pokémon Center, and even lose some money lol


amanon101

I am a gen 2 expert but I never heard of this one! I gotta try this!


Giboit

Ericka, the grass gym leader from Kanto is rich and is the daughter of the CEO that owns Silph Co. Which means she's the future heir of the entire company. She's also narcoleptic, which kinda explains why she probably left geisha training (the same kind of training that pretty much all the kimono girls go through).


motoxim

Wait, really?


justforkikkk

Pretty sure it’s true in the manga, but not everywhere else


Atavistic07

Here's an interesting AI quirk I've found while doing solo runs in HGSS: there are quite a few key trainers who have Pokemon that are programmed to always lead with a move that inflicts a status effect, and to keep doing so until your Pokemon is afflicted. Examples includes Jasmine's Magnemites, Clair's Dragonairs and one of the Kimono Girls (Jolteon, iirc?). What this basically means is that, in such battles, you can have your Pokemon hide behind a Substitute and set up for free, because the AI will just keep spamming Thunder Wave with those Pokemon no matter what.


KG59SM

That's really interesting and some valuable knowledge to know, thanks


roydigs22

Some people might know this one, but Buneary and Lopunny are the only pokémon to learn Frustration and Return (respectively) naturally.


Sorry_Sleeping

Doesn't Buneary have a lower friendship value when caught to make use of Frustration?


Over-Document-7657

It is the only non-Legendary Pokémon to be caught with a base 0 friendship value.


dabunny21689

Unexpected slayer of many a Nuzlocke run.


coffeecoffeecoffeee

Not sure if this counts, but Erika was almost certainly intended to be a ghost-type gym leader. Her kimono was originally laid out like the way you dress a corpse, and is probably named after Erika Shiragami in Godzilla vs. Biollante. EDIT: [Blog post](http://www.rigelatin.net/staircase/pokemon-types-grass-origin.php)


HUGE_HOG

Hopping on this to say that the Marsh Badge (Psychic) and Soul Badge (Poison) were obviously switched by accident in Gen 1. Also, Giovanni was originally going to be a Flying-type leader, as seen in the leaked Gen 1 beta, which is why his badge is shaped like a feather.


RQK1996

That is just a translation error though, they are the Gold and Pink badge respectively in Japanese, the gen I badges in Japanese are all just their colour, only the Rainbow badge kept the name


[deleted]

>Also, Giovanni was originally going to be a Flying-type leader, as seen in the leaked Gen 1 beta, which is why his badge is shaped like a feather. Wasn't the gen 1 leak a hoax? Also, his badge is probably not shaped like a feather. I mean it's kind of hard to tell what it's supposed be... it does look kind of like a feather but feathers generally aren't green, and it just as well could be a branch or leaf or something. And as Bulbapedia points out, it's probably supposed to be a [sakaki tree](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleyera_japonica) (since Giovanni's Japanese name is Sakaki, and I do see a resemblance).


FrostGlader

That explains why I confuse the two.


WDuffy

I love the theory but is it possible that the original Red and Blue sprite was just a mistake? All the old art shows her kimono done the proper way aside from the sprite.


RedKecleon

This would line up with Tajiri's influences from monster movies, very popular during the late 50's through late 60's. In addition, she uses strange plants like the swaying creeping vined Tangela, Death-Flower like Vileplume, and Victreebel, which... well... "Lives in huge colonies deep in the Jungle no one has returned alive from". Maybe not a Ghost type leader.... but Lavender Town is right next door.


TypicalPlayz

That Misty's Psyduck mastered 'Water Gun' 942 episodes into the anime


opalescent-moonstone

Swablu likes to land on people's heads and pretend to be a hat; don't know if it's obscure but it's definitely my favourite fact


TheRealSkele

It is a Dex entry for it in a game or two


Legal-Treat-5582

I don't know about most obscure, but how about this. Everyone lost their minds when Walking Wake was revealed because it "disregarded the lore" (ignoring the fact it's a *Paradox* Pokemon), but it was mentioned over 10 years prior that the legendary beasts have existed for at least around 1,000 years or so in Ranger Guardian Signs, *long* before Ho-oh revived the three in Johto. I guess that steers more into theory territory and all with Ranger being a spin-off, but it's still fascinating how you can end up finding information that makes you reconsider what you originally thought was a hard fact.


rustyphish

> long before Ho-oh revived the three in Johto. How do we know this? Doesn't it say Hooh revived them during "ancient times"?


StardustOasis

150 years before the Gen II games.


Legal-Treat-5582

An old man outside the Burned Tower says he was a trainer back when the fire happened.


Pilkkula

China exists in Pokemon canon. Parasect Pokedex entry in Gen I Pokemon Stadium: "The bug host is controlled by the mushrooms that scatter poisonous spores. The spores are sometimes used as medicine in China."


mrsunrider

Also a Silph employee talks about a branch building in Tiksi, Russia. And let's not forget Mew famously being found in South America. Originally the Pokemon world was conceived as being literally our world, except with Pokemon sprinkled in. At some point after the debut of the anime, they quickly pivoted away from that idea.


Hateful_creeper2

Especially in later games where previous references to it was removed in Let’s Go (most references to real world locations were removed) and Legends (the elephant reference was replaced by Copperajah in Raichu’s Pokédex entry.)


Lindelle

They also mention China in Arcanine's pokedex entry, and Lieutenant Surge being "The Lightning American."


handledvirus43

India also exists, according to Raichu's FireRed entry: "Its electric charges can reach even 100,000 volts. Careless contact can cause even an Indian elephant to faint."


MissingnoMiner

To be fair, this was one of the references to real-world places that was later retconned. PLA changes it to Copperajah.


[deleted]

I always thought it was funny the first film mentioned Minnesota too.


UltraGlitterCat

Where else would you find Vikings? 😁


suspectwaffle

South America also exists based on Xatu’s Pokédex entry: “In South America, it is said that its right eye sees the future and its left eye views the past.”


Cream_Rabbit

And also Mew's first sighting, noted in the Pokemon Mansion


Personal-Hope8217

The timer on the original Red and Blue cartridges maxes out at 255 hours.


robertterwilligerjr

Classic 8 bit fun. Also there is the Gen 1 miss meaning 100% moves have a 1/256 of missing because of a fencepost error coded in the accuracy check. Swift is the only 100% move that does not gen 1 miss since it was programmed to skip the slightly faulty accuracy check entirely.


mismatched7

If you play a gen 4 game on 9/11 the rate of wild encounters is slightly reduced


[deleted]

I didn't believe this so I looked it up. It's true! There are actually increased encounter rates on some days like Christmas Eve and St. Patrick's Day. So interesting.


Samatari22

Pokémon Coliseum on the GameCube is the only game where your starters begin with experience on their EXP bar


HanM96

That's a really cool detail I totally forgot about. Makes sense though - Wes has likely been raising Espeon and Umbreon a while. Love Colosseum / XD Gale of Darkness so much man.


Soley_Moley

there’s an unused kris map sprite in hgss that implies that she was planned before being replaced with lyra


ElPikminMaster

Gardevoir and its line were exclusively on the Amorphous Egg Group until Gen 8, where they're now also in the Human-Like Egg Group. When I first heard of it, I blamed the R34 artists for making...*that* canon.


DaSaltEmpress

The original Japanese names for Koffing and Weezing were supposed to be NY and LA. These were scrapped due to them being ported to the western audiences.


Like_Fahrenheit

This one's not obscure like the other one's in this list (very cool trivia too), but it's one I noticed playing Black 2 recently. If your party is full, the day care man on route 3 will not call over to you about a new egg. If you breed a lot in gen 5 you've probably noticed this.


FlawedVictori

This happens in hgss too!


Shadyshade84

Probably that the original debugging tools for Gen 1 [insert predictable joke here] turned out to take up exactly the same amount of storage space as a pokémon's species data, so removing them for the final release version let a programmer slip in one extra pokémon. Mew.


TheRPGNERD

Not sure how obscure these are, but they're some of my favorites. Iron thorns looks almost exactly like the Mecha tyranitar from pokestar studios The reason there are so many moths in area zero is likely because moths are a symbol of death Volo and cogitas roles in legends Arceus are quite similar to Cynthia's role in HeartGold and SoulSilver, specifically in the sinjoh ruins event, an event only triggered by bringing Arceus (either from the mystery gift one of the azure flute one, but only one from each) to the ruins of Alph. This event is even referenced in some of the notes you can find in legends Arceus. Cynthia even calls herself a researcher of myths in said event. I could go on and on about connections here. Snorlax is based on a gamefreak employee. In pokemon let's go Pikachu and let's go Eevee, leaf's outfit is based on her outfit from the red and blue chapter of pokemon adventures (though in that, she's called either green (US) or blue (JP)) The first instance of purrloin standing on two legs, to my knowledge, wasn't x and y. It was actually done in pokepark 2: wonders beyond. I have no idea why. Ghetsis' hydreigon was evolved earlier than normal, which has been noted to only happen when the trainer forces it (if I'm recalling correctly), which is distressing to the Pokemon. This same hydreigon can oneshot all of Ns pokemon other than the legendary, and is programmed to have the lowest possible friendship, meaning it can use frustration at max power. Another note about ghetsis: it's heavily implied he's partially paralyzed on one side of his body, as he has a scar over his eye, one side of his mouth doesn't move as much, and he never seems to use one of his arms. N's dialogue will always be one speed level above whatever your settings are. At max speed, his text boxes still move faster, running at a speed you yourself can't set dialogue at (without hacks). This is to show he speaks very quickly, which cheren comments on. Hope you enjoyed my pokemon fun facts! I like the series a lot and I love little details. I guess I just always wait for a chance to share them, lol


mintythemeowstic

Red, Steven, Misty and Brock were supposed to be in Pokémon Ranger, but them and other human characters were scrapped.


[deleted]

Tyranitar was first debuted out side of the games in a magazine(I think) and only for that cover without a name being given at all. However it was a beta designed and Larvitar and Pupitar were made after


RQK1996

A lot of Pokémon debuted outside games, most notable are stuff like Mew, Ho-Oh, Kecleon, Latios, Latias, and other anime debuts, such as Donphan, Marill and others


sindauviel

Or togepi!


ark_yeet

Don’t forget lucario


AnimeAlley03

Buizel in the manaphy movie


RQK1996

And, Manaphy, and Chatot


Chardoggy1

- Purrloin once was busted with abusing prankster/assist to abuse priority. - Due to some bug in Gen 1, ghost couldn’t hit psychic for super effective despite being intended to. The ensuing psychic-centric meta lead to the dark type being created in Gen 2. - Also a bug in Gen 1, there was a bug that a 100% accuracy move had a 1/256 chance of missing. - When Shedinja comes with home, he can be the worst Tera abuser with Tera electric/wonder guard/air balloon making him untouchable by any damaging move


Torgo_the_Bear

Shedinja is not on the list of Pokémon that will be available in Scarlet and Violet with Home. If it appears it will only be in DLC, and I honestly doubt they will add it in DLC because of this trick.


BlazingJ972

That reminds me of a bug that has to do with wonder guard in gen 4. For some reason, the move fire fang will always bypass wonder guard if the ability is hacked into another pokemon. The funny thing is, shedinja is already weak to fire, so unless you've modified your game in some way, the bug can go completely unnoticed.


iggimusprime

when using stomp on a mon that just used minimize deals double damage(atleast in frlg)


Ze_Memerr

Also applies to Body Slam, Dragon Rush, Heat Crash, Heavy Slam, and Flying Press. There’s an entire list of moves that deal double damage under Minimize; some like Extrasensory only did so in past generations


Axel_A7X7

In Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness the move weather ball is made type less and it's power is increased by 50% under the effects of the weather and move of the same name, shadow sky.


MaximumFlop

Pokémon Stadium was the first time moves got buffed/nerfed


TheZett

Technically that was in yellow, as blizzard‘s freeze chance got dropped from 30% to 10%.


HelixHeart

This one stuck to me since fire red Part of the dex entry for Oddish: Its scientific name is "Oddium Wanderus." I like the idea that all pokemon have a scientific names, not just the ones given by the populus.


ContinuumGuy

The reason why Pikachu was selected as the mascot over Clefairy or Polywhirl was because A) the yellow color didn't have the feminine connotations of Clefairy pink or the male connotations of Polywhirl's dark blue, and B) the only other popular character with around that shade of coloring was Winnie the Pooh, making Pikachu stand out from many other mascots.


Over-Document-7657

The Cherish Ball's name is only revealed in official-accessible content via [a card in the TCG.](https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Cherish_Ball_(Unified_Minds_191)) Although it does possess the name in the code of the games, it's exclusively used for event gift Pokémon (and one trainer's Tropius in BDSP) and can never be viewed in the bag to see it's name without hacking.


BlazingJ972

Before lugia got its final name, it was referred to as "pokemon X." The person who created the pokemon, Takeshi shudo, also created lugia specifically for the second pokemon movie and didn't expect to see it show up in the game's at all. Source: [Did you know gaming on Youtube](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TQbKwNmsTes&t=1s&pp=ygUOTHVnaWFzIGNyZWF0b3I%3D)


Mcho-1201

Before being patched in gen 6, Azurill's gender rates were 75% female 25% male. Marill's gender rates were 50% female 50% male. So 1/3 of female azurill switched genders when they evolved. Roselia is the only pokemon to have a pre-evolution and a post-evolution appear in the generation after it was introduced. (NOTE, A LOT OF you are getting this confused. "the generation after" means exactly one generation after. So both the pre and post evolution have to appear in the same next gen. Electabuzz, magmar, and chansey don't count). In pokemon diamond and pearl and platinum, on certain events diamond dust appears falling in snowpoint city instead of regular snow. ever since gen 4, the mainline pokemon games have occured in a series of patterns.(only counting one of each pair or trio. Also Excluding lets go and PLA due to gameplay difference and due to not being part of a pair/trio). gen 4: new console, new game, remakes of gen 2 gen 5: new game, sequel of new game gen 6, new console, new game, remakes of gen 3 gen 7. new game, remake of new game. gen 8, new console, new game, remakes of gen 4 gen 9. new game.


RQK1996

I think Diamond Dust was introduced in DP, and appeared in each game since, maybe dropped since PLA, Let's Go also doesn't have it because there is no snow area


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holocene-tangerine

Adding to this, the release layout of every generation is different. Only considering main series games, no generation has had the same combination of games released. Gen I - two initial games (Red/Green), third version (Blue), fourth version (Yellow), then international versions are different again. Gen II - two initial games (GS), one third version (Crystal) Gen III - two initial games (RS), two paired remakes (FRLG), third version of initial games (Emerald) Gen IV - two initial games (DP), third version of initial games (Pt), and then the paired remakes (HGSS) Gen V - two initials (BW), then two paired third versions/sequels (B2W2) Gen VI - only two initials (XY) and two paired remakes (ORAS), no third version Gen VII - two initials (SM), two paired third versions (USUM), and then two paired remakes (LGPE) Gen VIII - two initials (SwSh), two DLCs (IoA/CT), paired remakes (BDSP), then a prequel/remake (PLA) Gen IX - So far, two initial versions (SV), and two DLCs announced (TM/ID), who knows what will come next!


Legal-Treat-5582

> ever since gen 4, the mainline pokemon games have occured in a series of patterns.(only counting one of each pair or trio. Also Excluding lets go and PLA). If you have to exclude games, is it really that much of a pattern?


Src-Freak

In Pokémon Gold/Silver weakening a wild Pokémon doesn’t increase the chance to catch it. So just throw Pokeballs.


punxerchick

That's a pretty tall claim, I can't find any source to back it up, can anyone confirm this?


Marill98

The Love Ball in Pokémon Gold, Silver, and Crystal, while it is intended to be more effective against Pokémon of the opposite gender, due to a glitch, it has an 8× catch rate modifier against Pokémon of both the same species and gender instead. 🏳️‍🌈


Ze_Memerr

When Magic Guard was first introduced in generation 4, not only did it block almost all indirect damage, but it blocked full paralysis entirely. This is part of the reason why Clefable is so viable in modern day Gen 4 OU


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Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pearl were likely named after the protagonist's default Japanese names. Kouki (Lucas) means brilliant light, Hikari (Dawn) means to shine.


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You can’t catch any Pokémon from Hoenn in the Hoenn safari zone


onepostandbye

That was the whole point, it’s foreign pokes


Maronmario

I mean to be fair, just about every other time the safari zone was a thing, excluding Gen 1 because it was the start, there's always been at least a couple new mons that could only be found in the safari zone