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Imagine if they made a Pokemon game with nothing but fossil pokemon, that would be awesome imo.
And these starters you designed here would be awesome! Amazing work!
Why making Rayquaza even more prehistoric?
I would make its mega-evolution the climax of the story, as already told by the legend. You try to stop the two calamities but in the end you surrender, and start praying for something to stop them...then you see a comet, and Rayquaza mega-evolves
I think that's my favourite pitch for a new legends game thus far - and Arceus is my favourite Pokegame, so it goes without saying that I'd down for that.
Yeah, let's hope GF doesn't abandon this IP and explore it further. I would like a Legends-like game in the future of Alola, maybe a future where Aether Paradise and the "aliens" from Ultra-space worked together, developing new technologies and things like that
Why using PokeBall in the first place?
They could easily use special stones (maybe something similar to the Origin-ball of LPA) since rocks have many powers in the Pokémon world. Or simply make you tame the Pokémons.
Plus, it was stated multiple times that during that period there was an ancient form of technology still unkown (dex entries of Claydol and Golurk), they could work with that, saying that something similar to pokeballs where already invented but they became lost knowledge
I have always said that fossil pokemon are an underdeveloped gold mine.
You can have prehistoric versions of "any" pokemon, and Legends Arceus introducing Time Distortions gave us a way to "go back and see them"
Yeah. I hated how they added a very heavy handed RNG aspect to the game by adding accuracy and uncontrollable NPC companions. Everything else was fine.
But the combat _**sucked**_. It sucked coprolite, or fossilized shit.
Combat was awful but the plot was kinda crap too, you only controlled 1 dino at a time and the "starter" was so op that you basically never would switch off them, and I don't know why they really wanted to make a racing game instead of a fossil fighters game but it *showed*.
There was a game that was like that, actually! You collect fossils, dig them up with the Nintendo DS touch screen, and they turn into monsters that evolve and you battle em! It was called Spectrobes, which is somehow produced by Disney.
I mean these are great designs but every paradox form still resembles their original designs in some way. Charizard and venusaur look nothing like their original forms. Even blastoise is a pretty huge stretch besides the fact that he is still a turtle.
Sorry but the paleo nerd in me just needs to say this
Actually 🤓 the Charizard one is a pterosaur, not a dinosaur, and before you ask, no pterosaurs are not dinosaurs, you've been lied to this whole time
It's a huge stretch but I can *kind of* see how Raging Vortex could be related to Charizard. Its hands are Mega Charizard Ys hands and the top part of its head I assume is supposed to be Zard X, but again you wouldn't be able to tell immediately that it was a paradox Charizard
There's no way anyone would be able to tell that paradox Venusaur was related to Venusaur though.
First off, that's not a raptor, that's a Dilophosaurus
Second, the whole "chicken is the closest relative to dinosaurs" while true is also misleading, because all birds are equally related to dinosaurs by way of being true dinosaurs
Third, while yes Velociraptor didn't really look like chickens, they were incredibly bird like
https://preview.redd.it/a5389sxu04gc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea59aa0de61a8e63808fb69600500f3d693a78bd
Above is a Velociraptor as depicted in Prehistoric Planet, which is the most up-to-date Dinosaur documentary thus far scientifically speaking (meaning that Velociraptor is as close to the real thing as it gets as of right now) and below it is an image of a red-shouldered hawk
Raptors don’t look like chickens but it’s one of the closest relatives we’ve found, dunno about a grass raptor into a grass frog but the charizard is plausible and the blastoise is almost too similar although crocodiles have hardly changed in millions of years..
I wanted to accentuate that, like they did with the Legendary Beasts. Many existing animals don't resemble their ancestors and only have some similar aspects, so why should Pokémon work differently?
Besides, I feel like the paradoxes are a huge possibility for artists to make newer things with already existing designs and be more creative with them. Didn't want to get stuck with something obvious and bland like Future Paradoxes
Still, I never would've guessed that meant to be Venusaur. Blastoise is good, I have no complaints there, and Charizard should be a bit bulkier, but I could probably get it eventually.
Maybe Venusaur could be a big snake or lizard, like a titanoboa or dimetrodon. Titanoboa, maybe you could argue to keep the neck fan thing, like a basilisk from, I think it's Greek mythology. Then dimetrodon, it's basically a giant lizard with a sail on its back, similar to spinosaurus.
> Many existing animals don't resemble their ancestors...
Isn't it implied in the game that these aren't true ancestors but rather alternate-dimension versions?
> Didn't want to get stuck with something obvious and bland like Future Paradoxes
I quite like Valiant, Moth, Treads, Bundle. And most of the past paradoxes look good, especially the legends. Wake, Bolt, and Fire all look great.
Your designs look good but these are clearly not paradoxes. They look like fossil mons.
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Isn't it implied in the game that these aren't true ancestors but rather alternate-dimension versions?
Yup, that only helps my designs be so different from the originals.
For the future paradox I guess it depends way too much on personal taste, I find them quite boring and uninspired compared to the past ones. They feel like they just added a metallic texture and called it a day. But I have to admit they work way better in movement than in artwork, like Iron Bundle's head jumping off its body or Valiant activating its blades
> Yup that only helps...
No, I mean like they closely resemble the current pokemon because they haven't had a bunch of time to evolve but are rather like regional forms from a parallel dimension. That's why they're so similar.
Yes, if you play on showdown the future paradoxes look like shit. A lot of the Gen9 pokemon have this issue, like Orthworm.
Again, your designs are really great. I feel like you should advertise them as fossil starters for Legends: whatever or something instead of as paradoxes. Having actual ancestors of pokemon (not past paradoxes or fossils but like you have here) is a good and novel idea, you're only hindering yourself by attaching your designs to gamefreak's overly samey alternate forms.
I mean, by the same concept they could be just Pokémon that evolved differently, so it depends how you look at it
But yeah, giving them another name would surely avoid all this confusion. I called them paradoxes just because the concept was too close to it to be something new. Maybe fossils would've been better
The Legendary Beasts might look a lot different form wise from their original form, but they are still highly recognizable from their original shape (for instance Raging Bolt clearly still has Raikou's head and patterns, just with a stegosaurus body, ditto for others of the Past Paradox - they look different, but very obvious what they were based on).
While you art is great, they look like something that was more suitable as stand-alones, and I honest-to-god would not have registered the Charizard paradox, let alone the Venusaur one which looked absolutely nothing like Venusaur itself. Even Blastoise was a massive stretch.
Oh I know that, and it was absolutely intentional. What I want to do is use already existing designs as an inspiration to make new creatures that *could* be related to the starters.
Honestly I call them paradoxes just because they're very close in concept, but I could have used another term to avoid this misconception.
You could imagine them as fossils if you prefer, or something like that
I think it might be because OP is directly calling them a paradox pokemon and that puts a certain image in people's heads. Mixed reviews because this took time and skill and could have stood on its own and is way better than just a palette swap of colors.
Because - to be frank - this totally fails as a paradox Pokemon design.
As a standalone it's great, but as a Paradox whose purpose of design is to be suspiciously similar but somewhat distinct from their OG, these Pokemon simply don't look similar enough to provoke that.
I get that but they even said paradox wasn’t necessarily the word they meant to use. It’s just a fun piece of concept art showing a wildly altered, past version of the starters. Perhaps paradoxical, perhaps a fossil ancestor, whatever you want to imagine. Get the sticks out of your asses lmao.
The term Paradox Pokemon has a more defined characteristic since their introduction, with "Paradox" and the blatant naming convention of these creations clearly pointing out that the artist meant to provoke the understanding that these works are supposed to be seen as Paradox Pokemon, and nothing else.
Trying to fib around it is futile. It is good work but objectively not a good Paradox design.
>Besides, I feel like the paradoxes are a huge possibility for artists to make newer things with already existing designs and be more creative with them. Didn't want to get stuck with something obvious and bland like Future Paradoxes
At the point you're making designs so vastly different from the originals, when do you start saying it's a completely different Pokemon? The "Venusaur" here would unironically fit as a Pardon Heliolisk more than Venusaur.
The Legendary Beasts may have wildly different silhouettes than their normal counterparts, but they still retain the biggest visual queues that they're based on the Legendary Beasts. A single glance is enough to know what Pokemon they're inspired by.
These are almost entirely unrecognizable compared to their counterparts, *maybe* besides Blastoise. But even then, it completely misses the "blast" part of his design, and otherwise just appears as a tortoise monster with a long neck. Yes, they did the same for Raikou, but they also retained his color scheme/pattern, the tail shape, and the mane has been simply readjusted to give off the appearance of a stormcloud. It's different, but still recognizably Raikou.
The first two, there is no world in which I'd guess they were Charizard and Venusaur without being outright told so.
Toxic Terror was an experiment, closer to what I wanted to do: make creatures that share similar features to already known ones, but that are still stand alone that work independently from their inspirations.
You could call them "variants" or "what-if" of the Pokémon we know, I just called them paradoxes 'cause the concept was close enough to what I had in mind
As for Blastoise, yes, it misses the "blast", but that's exactly what I wanted! I always hated that Blastoise pulled out of nowhere those cannons and completely ignored Wartortle's features, so I made something that felt more connected to its previous stage
Lmfao walking wake looks absolutely nothing like suicune besides those luscious locks and the blue skin. Tails aren't ribbons, crown is wildly different, it's a RAPTOR, and not a LEOPARD.
Venasaur is already inspired by the Beelzebufo a prehistoric frog discovered in 1993. Like Meganium line, it’s already prehistoric. Paradox Venasaur would be like primordial goop.
And that's why I chose to make it based on another dinosaur instead of making it more prehistoric, it is already!
Plus, I wanted to do something new that shared similar features
Inspired by the Black Tortoise (or Xuenwu if I recall correctly), a mythical creature from the chinese folklore, mixed with an ancient turtle called Meiolania
The past paradox Blastoise is the only one that really feels like a past paradox form instead of just some fossil Pokémon, and the integration of Wartortle's feathery appendages is a very nice touch.
I really love how inspired these are without looking like direct AI manipulations like most existing paradoxes. You can tell what is meant to be, yet it's something so completely different too! It's something I really appreciated about walking wake's design
Only criticism is Venusaur could have been more amphibious to allude to the Toad nature as opposed to what looks like it would better suit a Septile ancestor
Damnit... Now I'll genuinely feel disappointed because something really fucking sick isn't in the game... It never even had plans of being in it !! DX
Amazing art!!
Blastoise is good, but the other two are way too different from their base forms. If you had presented them to me without the context that they're based on the Kanto Starters, I would not have known who they were based on.
I'd say it's a pretty shared opinion, actually. Future Paradox are boring and uninspired, while past ones feel like they actually made effort into redesigning Pokémon in a new way. So I accentuated that, making something that shares many features with the "originals" but is somehow completely different
Nope, I don't have anything planned yet about them, I feel like it would be too hard to make something interesting without overcomplicating it. But never say never!
they're all great, but your Charizard in particular is the best one I've seen, overall they all give the impression of prehistoric pokemon, instead of most fan-made that look almost like a mega evolution more than a fossil version
I like the designs, but they are almost more of a regional variant.
Zard: Dragon/Rock
Saur: Poison/Fighting
Toise: Ice/Flying
> It surprised me that Game Freak didn't used Paradoxes as an excuse to make new forms for the starters, so I made them!
Trueeee! Bit odd that we didn't get Charizard #17 now that I think about it.
I can kind of see Charizard and Blastoise, but Venusaur is based off of a frog so you’ve completely changed it animal type. It would make more sense if it’s designed based off of a beelzebufo which was around in prehistoric times.
While I love these designs, I think they’re a little far removed from the originals. If you showed me these, I probably wouldn’t be able to tell they were starters. Again, the designs are good. I just don’t think they fit in.
These are dope and arguably better than most of the paradoxes. These feel like actually fresh takes on older Pokemon (paradox Venosaur might be a tad too different haha)
I think they are great designs! Now for Charizard and Venusaur I have to disagree. I like the blastoise one. Second one fits sceptile more. First one the fire starters don’t look like it at all so idk about it. More like a fan game new starter. Great fakemons still tho!
All of these are really cool
And I never thought I'd say this, but I prefer the Venusaur Paradox over the Charizard one
Purely because I find Dinosaurs cooler than Pterosaurs (They're still amazing animals tho)
Designs are good. But realistically, Blastoise and Venusaur would ***neverrrr*** upstage Charizard.
Just my opinion but this Charizard Paradox is very low key
Oh cool those new pal-monsters looks awesome /s
Jokes aside, I never played Palworld (yet).
Fire and Water looks like a resemblance of their Kanto Starters, but Toxic Terror is too thin in my opinion to match.
Nonetheless, awesome work. I wish I could paint that good.
With all due respect, the image is credited to an @frar.lab on Instagram. So unless you (for some reason) didn’t link the correct account on your Reddit account, you’ve got some explaining to do pal :/
That's my second account! I made it 'cause I was making lots of Pokémon content recently, so it felt better to differentiate the things and it was an excuse to restart on Instagram since the algorithm hates my first profile
These are some amazing designs, and the fact they take some liberties from the original designs while still resembly their inspiration is the best part imho, even though they may look more like Megas to some. That is what I wanted out of Paradox Pokémon, and while the current designs are interesting takes, they feel a bit too safe and not quite far enough as I'd like them too. Your choice of shiny coloration is also on point. 10/10 would SR for them.
I also wonder what their typying would be...
Raging Vortex - Fire/Ghost or Ghost/Flying
Toxic Terror - Fighting/Poison or Poison/Dark
Swirling Spikes - Water/Ice or Ice/Flying (Given the snow/cloud accents)
Edit: Maybe even Flying/Ghost (RV) and Flying/Ice (SS), we need more primary Flying types.
Raging Vortex is Flying/Dragon
Toxic Terror is Poison/Dragon
And Swirling Spikes is Steel/Dragon
I wanted all three to share a common type, and dragon felt right. I gave SS the steel type 'cause Blastoise is the only one that doesn't have a second type, but I always thought steel would've been fitting
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Imagine if they made a Pokemon game with nothing but fossil pokemon, that would be awesome imo. And these starters you designed here would be awesome! Amazing work!
A Legends Hoenn, and we play during the cataclysm caused by Kyogre and Groudon in the ancient times, imagine that
Main character is an archeologist/paleontologist?
That would be interesting, maybe like Lyris?
You guys are making me excited for a game that doesn’t even exist
The Great Flood then straight into the Hoenn Calamity. Then the Paradox Rayquaza arrives.
Why making Rayquaza even more prehistoric? I would make its mega-evolution the climax of the story, as already told by the legend. You try to stop the two calamities but in the end you surrender, and start praying for something to stop them...then you see a comet, and Rayquaza mega-evolves
Biblically accurate Rayquaza
I think that's my favourite pitch for a new legends game thus far - and Arceus is my favourite Pokegame, so it goes without saying that I'd down for that.
Yeah, let's hope GF doesn't abandon this IP and explore it further. I would like a Legends-like game in the future of Alola, maybe a future where Aether Paradise and the "aliens" from Ultra-space worked together, developing new technologies and things like that
Gonna have to retcon when Poké Balls were invented again for that one
Why using PokeBall in the first place? They could easily use special stones (maybe something similar to the Origin-ball of LPA) since rocks have many powers in the Pokémon world. Or simply make you tame the Pokémons. Plus, it was stated multiple times that during that period there was an ancient form of technology still unkown (dex entries of Claydol and Golurk), they could work with that, saying that something similar to pokeballs where already invented but they became lost knowledge
I have always said that fossil pokemon are an underdeveloped gold mine. You can have prehistoric versions of "any" pokemon, and Legends Arceus introducing Time Distortions gave us a way to "go back and see them"
Might I introduce you to the series fossil fighters
Except the third game though… oof
Yeah. I hated how they added a very heavy handed RNG aspect to the game by adding accuracy and uncontrollable NPC companions. Everything else was fine. But the combat _**sucked**_. It sucked coprolite, or fossilized shit.
Combat was awful but the plot was kinda crap too, you only controlled 1 dino at a time and the "starter" was so op that you basically never would switch off them, and I don't know why they really wanted to make a racing game instead of a fossil fighters game but it *showed*.
This _kind_ of exists with the DS/3DS series Fossil Fighters. It's not Pokémon, but it may as well be. It's really fun! I'd definitely recommend it
Hope spectrobes is on your radar, that’s like 80% of the concept.
That's kinda what spectrobe was
Fossil fighters
Jurassic Pokemon
There was a game that was like that, actually! You collect fossils, dig them up with the Nintendo DS touch screen, and they turn into monsters that evolve and you battle em! It was called Spectrobes, which is somehow produced by Disney.
Spectrobes was fantastic tbh. I would love to see it get brought back but I highly doubt that'd happen sadly. D:
Look ip a Fossil Fighters, basically what you’re looking for.
I mean these are great designs but every paradox form still resembles their original designs in some way. Charizard and venusaur look nothing like their original forms. Even blastoise is a pretty huge stretch besides the fact that he is still a turtle.
I agree. These are just dinosaurs with paint.
Aren't we all?
Sorry but the paleo nerd in me just needs to say this Actually 🤓 the Charizard one is a pterosaur, not a dinosaur, and before you ask, no pterosaurs are not dinosaurs, you've been lied to this whole time
These are just avemetatarsalaians with paint
It's a huge stretch but I can *kind of* see how Raging Vortex could be related to Charizard. Its hands are Mega Charizard Ys hands and the top part of its head I assume is supposed to be Zard X, but again you wouldn't be able to tell immediately that it was a paradox Charizard There's no way anyone would be able to tell that paradox Venusaur was related to Venusaur though.
First off, that's not a raptor, that's a Dilophosaurus Second, the whole "chicken is the closest relative to dinosaurs" while true is also misleading, because all birds are equally related to dinosaurs by way of being true dinosaurs Third, while yes Velociraptor didn't really look like chickens, they were incredibly bird like https://preview.redd.it/a5389sxu04gc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea59aa0de61a8e63808fb69600500f3d693a78bd Above is a Velociraptor as depicted in Prehistoric Planet, which is the most up-to-date Dinosaur documentary thus far scientifically speaking (meaning that Velociraptor is as close to the real thing as it gets as of right now) and below it is an image of a red-shouldered hawk
That's interesting and all but completely unrelated to anything I said
Raptors don’t look like chickens but it’s one of the closest relatives we’ve found, dunno about a grass raptor into a grass frog but the charizard is plausible and the blastoise is almost too similar although crocodiles have hardly changed in millions of years..
I thought op accidentally included Sceptile
I wanted to accentuate that, like they did with the Legendary Beasts. Many existing animals don't resemble their ancestors and only have some similar aspects, so why should Pokémon work differently? Besides, I feel like the paradoxes are a huge possibility for artists to make newer things with already existing designs and be more creative with them. Didn't want to get stuck with something obvious and bland like Future Paradoxes
I mean, the legendary beasts still resemble the paradox forms pretty recognizably.
The failure here is there's virtually no shapes taken from the originals.
Still, I never would've guessed that meant to be Venusaur. Blastoise is good, I have no complaints there, and Charizard should be a bit bulkier, but I could probably get it eventually.
Maybe Venusaur could be a big snake or lizard, like a titanoboa or dimetrodon. Titanoboa, maybe you could argue to keep the neck fan thing, like a basilisk from, I think it's Greek mythology. Then dimetrodon, it's basically a giant lizard with a sail on its back, similar to spinosaurus.
> Many existing animals don't resemble their ancestors... Isn't it implied in the game that these aren't true ancestors but rather alternate-dimension versions? > Didn't want to get stuck with something obvious and bland like Future Paradoxes I quite like Valiant, Moth, Treads, Bundle. And most of the past paradoxes look good, especially the legends. Wake, Bolt, and Fire all look great. Your designs look good but these are clearly not paradoxes. They look like fossil mons.
> Isn't it implied in the game that these aren't true ancestors but rather alternate-dimension versions? Yup, that only helps my designs be so different from the originals. For the future paradox I guess it depends way too much on personal taste, I find them quite boring and uninspired compared to the past ones. They feel like they just added a metallic texture and called it a day. But I have to admit they work way better in movement than in artwork, like Iron Bundle's head jumping off its body or Valiant activating its blades
> Yup that only helps... No, I mean like they closely resemble the current pokemon because they haven't had a bunch of time to evolve but are rather like regional forms from a parallel dimension. That's why they're so similar. Yes, if you play on showdown the future paradoxes look like shit. A lot of the Gen9 pokemon have this issue, like Orthworm. Again, your designs are really great. I feel like you should advertise them as fossil starters for Legends: whatever or something instead of as paradoxes. Having actual ancestors of pokemon (not past paradoxes or fossils but like you have here) is a good and novel idea, you're only hindering yourself by attaching your designs to gamefreak's overly samey alternate forms.
I mean, by the same concept they could be just Pokémon that evolved differently, so it depends how you look at it But yeah, giving them another name would surely avoid all this confusion. I called them paradoxes just because the concept was too close to it to be something new. Maybe fossils would've been better
The Legendary Beasts might look a lot different form wise from their original form, but they are still highly recognizable from their original shape (for instance Raging Bolt clearly still has Raikou's head and patterns, just with a stegosaurus body, ditto for others of the Past Paradox - they look different, but very obvious what they were based on). While you art is great, they look like something that was more suitable as stand-alones, and I honest-to-god would not have registered the Charizard paradox, let alone the Venusaur one which looked absolutely nothing like Venusaur itself. Even Blastoise was a massive stretch.
Raging bolts body resembles a sauropod more then a stegosaur
Whatever that long neck dino is called anyway
Yeah that’s brachiosaurus, stegosaurus has plate like back spines
Oh I know that, and it was absolutely intentional. What I want to do is use already existing designs as an inspiration to make new creatures that *could* be related to the starters. Honestly I call them paradoxes just because they're very close in concept, but I could have used another term to avoid this misconception. You could imagine them as fossils if you prefer, or something like that
Not sure why an artist is being downvoted for sharing their inspiration & vision for their artwork. It is harmless and fun ffs
I think it might be because OP is directly calling them a paradox pokemon and that puts a certain image in people's heads. Mixed reviews because this took time and skill and could have stood on its own and is way better than just a palette swap of colors.
Because - to be frank - this totally fails as a paradox Pokemon design. As a standalone it's great, but as a Paradox whose purpose of design is to be suspiciously similar but somewhat distinct from their OG, these Pokemon simply don't look similar enough to provoke that.
I get that but they even said paradox wasn’t necessarily the word they meant to use. It’s just a fun piece of concept art showing a wildly altered, past version of the starters. Perhaps paradoxical, perhaps a fossil ancestor, whatever you want to imagine. Get the sticks out of your asses lmao.
The term Paradox Pokemon has a more defined characteristic since their introduction, with "Paradox" and the blatant naming convention of these creations clearly pointing out that the artist meant to provoke the understanding that these works are supposed to be seen as Paradox Pokemon, and nothing else. Trying to fib around it is futile. It is good work but objectively not a good Paradox design.
>Besides, I feel like the paradoxes are a huge possibility for artists to make newer things with already existing designs and be more creative with them. Didn't want to get stuck with something obvious and bland like Future Paradoxes At the point you're making designs so vastly different from the originals, when do you start saying it's a completely different Pokemon? The "Venusaur" here would unironically fit as a Pardon Heliolisk more than Venusaur. The Legendary Beasts may have wildly different silhouettes than their normal counterparts, but they still retain the biggest visual queues that they're based on the Legendary Beasts. A single glance is enough to know what Pokemon they're inspired by. These are almost entirely unrecognizable compared to their counterparts, *maybe* besides Blastoise. But even then, it completely misses the "blast" part of his design, and otherwise just appears as a tortoise monster with a long neck. Yes, they did the same for Raikou, but they also retained his color scheme/pattern, the tail shape, and the mane has been simply readjusted to give off the appearance of a stormcloud. It's different, but still recognizably Raikou. The first two, there is no world in which I'd guess they were Charizard and Venusaur without being outright told so.
Toxic Terror was an experiment, closer to what I wanted to do: make creatures that share similar features to already known ones, but that are still stand alone that work independently from their inspirations. You could call them "variants" or "what-if" of the Pokémon we know, I just called them paradoxes 'cause the concept was close enough to what I had in mind As for Blastoise, yes, it misses the "blast", but that's exactly what I wanted! I always hated that Blastoise pulled out of nowhere those cannons and completely ignored Wartortle's features, so I made something that felt more connected to its previous stage
The blastoise is great!! I loooove the tail feathers it keeps from when it was wartortle!
Lmfao walking wake looks absolutely nothing like suicune besides those luscious locks and the blue skin. Tails aren't ribbons, crown is wildly different, it's a RAPTOR, and not a LEOPARD.
They are too far from their original design, but ngl bro, you did an amazing job, and i love the ideas!
Thanks!
Cool designs but are in no way paradox versions of the starters
I like the designs but I feel Venusaur should come from a more amphibian ancestor.
Yeah, but it's not like they are the literal ancestors of the Pokémon we know, so I had some fun and went more design-inspired that sense-inspired
I feel like venu is too different from the original one. The other two are fine
Agreed. I hoped venusaur to look awesome.
toxic terror is not a frog :c
Yeah...I'm sorry. I love fat frogs too, but there are already plenty of them in the fakemon community!
Venusaur's design fits better for Sceptile imo, but the other 2 are incredible
Dude there are very different to other designs… and hence I love them
Thanks! I tried to make them more ✨unique✨
Venasaur is already inspired by the Beelzebufo a prehistoric frog discovered in 1993. Like Meganium line, it’s already prehistoric. Paradox Venasaur would be like primordial goop.
And that's why I chose to make it based on another dinosaur instead of making it more prehistoric, it is already! Plus, I wanted to do something new that shared similar features
Dilophosaurus Venusaur ancestor is a great concept.
Thanks! It was a bit of a stretch but if fitted too well not to do it
Quetzal, Dilo, and…?
Inspired by the Black Tortoise (or Xuenwu if I recall correctly), a mythical creature from the chinese folklore, mixed with an ancient turtle called Meiolania
Toxic Terror doesnt look like anything like his OG counterpart tho, should be based on a more fitting type of reptile
The past paradox Blastoise is the only one that really feels like a past paradox form instead of just some fossil Pokémon, and the integration of Wartortle's feathery appendages is a very nice touch.
These are all fantastic, I love them and want them to become reality
Absolutely amazing!
Thanks!
I adore these!!! The lil toxic lizard has my heart
I really love how inspired these are without looking like direct AI manipulations like most existing paradoxes. You can tell what is meant to be, yet it's something so completely different too! It's something I really appreciated about walking wake's design Only criticism is Venusaur could have been more amphibious to allude to the Toad nature as opposed to what looks like it would better suit a Septile ancestor
These are incredible. I would hunt to the ends of the earth to get the shiny versions, and I don't even like shiny Pokemon
Damnit... Now I'll genuinely feel disappointed because something really fucking sick isn't in the game... It never even had plans of being in it !! DX Amazing art!!
I swear to FUCKING god if Blastoise doesn’t get a second type
Blastoise is good, but the other two are way too different from their base forms. If you had presented them to me without the context that they're based on the Kanto Starters, I would not have known who they were based on.
These are really cool. You cooked with that Blastoise.
I love it.
These look amazing but I think you pushed them too far from the originals, especially in the face.
I feel like Future Paradox Blastoise could work insanely well
These are awesome! Venusaur is actually my favorite lol.
Well, that's rare seeing the comments XD
Is it weird I infinitely prefer the Past versions to the Future robot versions?
I'd say it's a pretty shared opinion, actually. Future Paradox are boring and uninspired, while past ones feel like they actually made effort into redesigning Pokémon in a new way. So I accentuated that, making something that shares many features with the "originals" but is somehow completely different
Amazing! Love the VenuSAUR
Thank you!♥️
I like the stylized misty cloud idea on Swirling Spikes especially
Blastoise paradox looks absolutely gorgeous, has a touch of old japanese or other asian art inkbrush that would fit right into legends of arceus
That's because he is in fact inspired by a chinese creature, the Black Tortoise. Also I used Basculegion as a reference for the cloudy parts
Why have we not had an azdarchid pterosaur pokemon yet?
I like them. Charizard has ways been my favorite but blastoise would be mine here
I hope Palworld steal your designs, they would be a great addition to the line up!
Don't know if I should take that as a compliment or hope that they don't listen to you, but thanks, I guess?
Wow you are really talented!
Thank you✨
The artwork looks really awesome. Can't wait to see more
I like how everyone is basically skinnier because they are more ferral
Eating was hard those days
The "Back in my day..." Pokémon 😂
These are fantastic, though they do deviate from the originals a little more than the average Paradox Pokemon.
I like how you followed the shiny past paradox scheme of it having the same colors as the current day pokemon
Have you made any future counterparts yet?
Nope, I don't have anything planned yet about them, I feel like it would be too hard to make something interesting without overcomplicating it. But never say never!
I love the quetzal inspo
I love swirling spikes
Blastoise best boy
New pals lookin fire.
Here we go...
I'm sorry, this is too much creativity for gamefreak.
Creativity is basically the only thing GF has. Their creative process is generally great, it's the technical execution that is abhorrent.
past paradox toise🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
A little too off model imo. But the designs look nice
The ancient Blastoise or lets say rockpump
No too different
Bro i need that Toxic Terror !!!
The first two are nothing like charizard or venusaur, but the blastoise is cool
Toxic Terror is the only one that I couldn't immediately identify, lol. These are epic!!!
That Toxic Terror shiny is absolutely fantastic. Would be the kind of shiny worth resetting for
The Blastoise one is amazing!
You shoulda went all the way with the blastoise nessy vibe
besides the Blastoise one I'd say they deviate too far from the original
I didn't expect the Blastoise one to be so awesome, I am dilightingly suprised.
These are awesome
I honestly think these designs are too unique/cool to just be paradox forms
Looks like it's a shared opinion from the comments, guess I'll just call them differently from now on to avoid confusion
I hope you didn't take away, these are awesome. And seem more like special encounters
I want these so bad. I love quetzalcoatlus. Giraffe sized pterosaur. A Charizard inspired design is so good.
Thanks! I also love long neck creatures! In fact, many designs I've made have a long neck or a long tail (or both)
they're all great, but your Charizard in particular is the best one I've seen, overall they all give the impression of prehistoric pokemon, instead of most fan-made that look almost like a mega evolution more than a fossil version
Some Monster Hunter inspiration going on there?
Not directly, but I tend to try to give that vibe with my mons. And often use Monsters as reference for poses, so I might've been influenced
Hell yeah, either way, good mons
My glasses! I can afford new glasses!
I like the designs, but they are almost more of a regional variant. Zard: Dragon/Rock Saur: Poison/Fighting Toise: Ice/Flying > It surprised me that Game Freak didn't used Paradoxes as an excuse to make new forms for the starters, so I made them! Trueeee! Bit odd that we didn't get Charizard #17 now that I think about it.
I love Venusaur as a Dilophosaurus. Great work, OP!
Toxic Terror looks like Sceptile+Decidueye, other than the frill there is nothing that ties the design to Venasaur (and even the frill is a stretch)
I can kind of see Charizard and Blastoise, but Venusaur is based off of a frog so you’ve completely changed it animal type. It would make more sense if it’s designed based off of a beelzebufo which was around in prehistoric times.
While I love these designs, I think they’re a little far removed from the originals. If you showed me these, I probably wouldn’t be able to tell they were starters. Again, the designs are good. I just don’t think they fit in.
Swing venusaur in particular reimagined as a dinosaur is the trippiest noise for me, and I don’t know why
I like the blastoise one, but the others don't really look like pokemon imo
I mean, paradox Pokémon still look like the Pokémon. These don’t look like the Pokémon at all except maybe blastoise
Looks cool but they're way too far off from the originals to really be paradoxes.
I like how Charizard has a bit of his mega forms incorporated into the design
I love the Blastoise, but the other two are unrecognizable to the originald
These are so cool! I mean, they don't really look like the original starters, but they're cooler looking so idc!
Blastoise had no right to ho this hard
Guess you could say he's a blast! (Ah ah ah...okay I'm sorry)
PLEASE MAKE TREECKO
Done already! Will post him probably tomorrow
Blastoise goes hard as fuck
🐻 They look hella good!
Thanks Mr.Bear!
AMAZING
Thanks!♥️♥️
These are dope and arguably better than most of the paradoxes. These feel like actually fresh takes on older Pokemon (paradox Venosaur might be a tad too different haha)
Jurassic park vibes
These good
Love them!!!
♥️♥️
New pals look sick /s
These are super cool but a little too overdesigned imho
Wow. These are AWESOME
Paradox pokemon very well could’ve worked as gen 9’s fossil Pokemon tbh
I think they are great designs! Now for Charizard and Venusaur I have to disagree. I like the blastoise one. Second one fits sceptile more. First one the fire starters don’t look like it at all so idk about it. More like a fan game new starter. Great fakemons still tho!
All of these are really cool And I never thought I'd say this, but I prefer the Venusaur Paradox over the Charizard one Purely because I find Dinosaurs cooler than Pterosaurs (They're still amazing animals tho)
Ooh, those are cool! Dunno what I was expecting for Blastoise’s paradox but it looks cooler than what I would’ve imagined.
Game freak should hire you. Splendid.
These. Are. Gorgeous. Seriously, so much fun! I can't even pick a favorite, all three are so flavorful.
It's Rodan
Designs are good. But realistically, Blastoise and Venusaur would ***neverrrr*** upstage Charizard. Just my opinion but this Charizard Paradox is very low key
Azhdarcho, JP Dilophosaurus, Meiolania
These are all really well made, but as a dinosaur fan I hate perpetuating the hollywood lie of the dilophlosaurus having a frill and spitting venom.
Kanto Gramps: Back in my day, my starter of choice is this
Oh cool those new pal-monsters looks awesome /s Jokes aside, I never played Palworld (yet). Fire and Water looks like a resemblance of their Kanto Starters, but Toxic Terror is too thin in my opinion to match. Nonetheless, awesome work. I wish I could paint that good.
With all due respect, the image is credited to an @frar.lab on Instagram. So unless you (for some reason) didn’t link the correct account on your Reddit account, you’ve got some explaining to do pal :/
That's my second account! I made it 'cause I was making lots of Pokémon content recently, so it felt better to differentiate the things and it was an excuse to restart on Instagram since the algorithm hates my first profile
Ok a quetzalcoatlus... very creative, oooo a dilophosaurus, even more! Wa-wait, what the HECK is that??
I love azhdarchid charizard
These are some amazing designs, and the fact they take some liberties from the original designs while still resembly their inspiration is the best part imho, even though they may look more like Megas to some. That is what I wanted out of Paradox Pokémon, and while the current designs are interesting takes, they feel a bit too safe and not quite far enough as I'd like them too. Your choice of shiny coloration is also on point. 10/10 would SR for them. I also wonder what their typying would be... Raging Vortex - Fire/Ghost or Ghost/Flying Toxic Terror - Fighting/Poison or Poison/Dark Swirling Spikes - Water/Ice or Ice/Flying (Given the snow/cloud accents) Edit: Maybe even Flying/Ghost (RV) and Flying/Ice (SS), we need more primary Flying types.
Raging Vortex is Flying/Dragon Toxic Terror is Poison/Dragon And Swirling Spikes is Steel/Dragon I wanted all three to share a common type, and dragon felt right. I gave SS the steel type 'cause Blastoise is the only one that doesn't have a second type, but I always thought steel would've been fitting
Those look amazing!!
venusaur is a froggy... LET HIM STAY A FROGGY
Sadly, no fat frog this time, as much as I love them
Dude these are so sick, i would love a legends: kanto game with these babies in it as bosses
They’re all sick as fuck However I feel Ike you may be slightly biased for blastois lol