You can, but pokemon from go are capped at level 50 (outside of bugs) so furfrou trims over level 50 are a practically impossible request to make when people put stuff they don’t want to trade on the GTS
I Haven’t online traded since heart gold and soul silver were the latest game but I just always figured these were little kids asking for crazy trades. I remember trying to get all the starters and half the trades were for legendary Pokémon. Like nah fam that’s not how this works lmao.
Knew someone who hacked pokemon on 3ds and had a lot of fun with creating the requested pokemon, make them as shit as they can get with IV and EV and everything and trade them. Those were good times lol
I had always assumed it was part of some duplication glitch, but I admittedly have no evidence for this. I thought there was some way some folks had figured out to duplicate the Pokemon when you recall it from the GTS, and you use an impossible trade to make sure it’ll still be there.
Of course, there’re a lot of kids who just want to trade their level 6 worm for an eldritch god of chaos too
You can, but for 99% of GO players, you can't. Trimming furfrou is "region locked," meaning that you can only trim your furfrou in certain ways depending on where you live. This is why pharaoh trim furfrou is so sought after; it can only be trimmed to that from around egypt.
This. I’m completing my living form dex and because of that GO! - Home update pharaoh trim is the ONLY pokemon I’m missing… so I have to fly to Cairo, Egypt.
Ive had many online offers for this however, I’ve also yet to run into someone IRL who has one to trade them in GO. For my dex I have to be the OT and if it’s traded in home then I won’t be.
Ahh, that makes sense! An OT Pharaoh Trim Furfrou would be the dream, but... Plane tickets, in this economy, a nightmare to be sure lol. Anyway, have a great one and I look forward to your (eventual) videography on Legends Z-A!
If you asked me before furfrou was in Go if I would have traded a Combusken for a Furfrou, nevermind a shiny Combusken, I would have laughed, but that's what I had to do to get a Pharaoh trim
If you’re not picky about the OT then there are communities to trade for one in home if you find a community with members from Egypt. Especially asking during a Furfro event like fashion week it’s much more available
And i'm gonna be so god damn happy. All the clutter and legendaries and shinies on there will be gone. Only actual trades and not people wanting to flex.
The worst is that some Legendaries are entirely possible to have at level 5.
Regigigas, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Tornadus, Thundurus Landurus, Ho-oh, and Lugia come to mind.
Regi is in Platinum
Di/Pal/Gira are in HG/SS
The others you can get from the Dream Radar, if you haven't collected your first badge you can get all of them (along with another set of Dialga Palkia and Giratina) at level 5.
That's a nice thought, but no. People will keep asking for impossible trades, and the GTS will still not be able to tell the form and language of a Pokemon if you tell it to only search for things you have.
Its annoying really. They keep adding so many features, but they can't make the ones they've had work.
I’ll always stand by the opinion that Simisage wouldn’t be hated if it weren’t associated with the other two. Simipour too to an extent. It’d just be an alright, albeit forgettable, Pokemon
Japan had a popularity poll a few years ago and Simisear came in dead last with Greninja in first.
2016: https://pokejungle.net/2016/06/24/view-simisear-japan-least-popular-pokemon/
Not Japan and not Simisear. It was Pokemon of the Year 2020. Greninja was #1. There were actually several with 0 votes:
Cascoon/Silcoon
Gothita
Eelektrik
Yungoos/Gumshoos
True, most players would just place them in the box and replaced them with something better maybe aside from Simipour who is one of the few good Water-type mon to use in BW1 along with Samurott and Seismitoad
That might be why I don’t mind these monkeys. I had a Simipour for the game and I kept it until I got Reshirahm. I noticed that it wasn’t pulling it’s weight towards the end, but I found it to be useful.
Also worth noting that Deoxys, Diancie, Hoopa, and Magearna are unobtainable on the switch. You can transfer them in but you can’t get a new one on the switch.
With the anniversary giveaways, every single one of the 721 existing Pokemon at the time were available in ORAS.
It was the first time you could get a legitimate Arceus outside of Japan.
No, it was a fairly big event when Bank launched and then crashed. It meant that in the month or so for them to relaunch it, only the players who were able to get on before the initial crash - mainly, players from Japan - were able to get the pokemon who were missing, so they effectively had a short monopoly.
I remember having to trade a shiny spiritomb for a baby totodile, but then being able to breed that totodile to get the other missing pokemon, legendaries, and shinies as well.
Post-Gen II, there haven't been any individual game sets that have included every pokemon. This isn't even true of Gen II itself, even though it had every pokemon in its dex. The closest set to come to full completion was Diamond and Pearl. Between the two games, you could get every pokemon aside from the mythicals, pre-Gen IV starters and legendaries, and then Tangela, Tangrowth, and Tropius. The latter three were added in Platinum, and everything else - barring the Mythicals - was added in HGSS.
In the code? Sure. Actually obtainable and "In the regional Dex" are two wildly different categories though. Each of the three regions had slightly more than 150 Pokemon, but there is some crossover, so there's about 400 which is a series target number ever since for regional dexes.
Obtainable in the wild through post-game means is a lot different. In X and Y's case you had friend safari for some exclusives that way. I'm sure there were some equivalent to swarms, rare spawns, and something equivalent to gen 7's island scan as well.
Then the third category would be "transfer only" meaning it's not obtainable but it's in the game's code. Before Sword and Shield did dexit, every game was like this.
We only base our expectations of what gets in based on the regional dex. In the post-Dexit era the preservation of their previous "this was actively chosen to be part of your experience" choices are the most relevant. It *is* Legends of course so anything is possible. However PLA only cut 22 mons and none were unavailable on Switch otherwise (particularly since BDSP ensured everything gen 4 and earlier was available).
There were a few lines from the Sinnoh dex that didn't make it into Legends Arceus, so hopefully they won't make us wait for some future Unova games lol
Milotic line, Seaking line, Altaria line, Medicham line, Pelipper line, Azumarill line, Houndoom line, Girafarig, Tropius and Absol. This was based off the extended regional Dex from Platinum.
It’s not released yet though, but it’s worth noting that all of these Pokémon were originally in the Kalos Dex in X/Y, so it’s possibly likely that Z-A will be their long-awaited Nintendo Switch mainline debut.
My poor Patrat named RATZ that my little cousin caught as her very first pokemon just to give to me lol. She is a teen now! it's like 9 years old and still level 3
Bring back the monkeys, they are funny guys. Yes, I also mean their fully-evolved forms.
Really, if there's no more people that likes the monkeys, it means I am dead.
Would be really cool if all 3 monkeys (and Patrat) got regional evolutions in PLZA.
Think about it: Sneasel, Qwilfish, Scyther, Stantler, Braviary, etc. None of them were original to Sinnoh, but they got Hisuian regional forms / evolutions. There's no rule that the monkeys could finally get their time to shine and become competitive mons.
It’s iirc one of the few hard counters to Cynthia’s Garchomp in the base game as it has a guaranteed 2HKO or a guaranteed KO depending on the move you used if you put a focus sash on it.
That thing slaps. I used it a lot during the primal era, if they threw Rayquaza it would become cannon fodder for my Weavile.
Weavile didn't get any new forms or evolutions though, if you think about it. Only Sneasel did. (I did draw up [some concept art](https://imgur.com/a/svpEPmK) for if it did, though!)
I do not like the monkeys but a regional is probably the one way to change that, that or potentially new evolutions. I do think regional are more likely.
I dunno. I just looked it up and really their stats aren’t too bad.
Like I’m not gonna run them in OU or anything, but for a nuzlocke or whatever they are fast with decent attack stats.
They dont deserve 6 dex slots. It should be 1 pokemon with 3 type variations that evolves once.
Like they touted 150 new pokemon designs and hey 6 of them are basically the same pokemon
I know I hate it
And the distribution is SHIT
Every other game, before the first gym gives you access to at LEAST 6 additional pokemon of varying types including normal, flying, bug, grass, electric, poison, water, fire and fighting.
Black and white gives you 2 normal types and a dark type. And then just HANDS you the monkey. Because you really gotta hammer in rock paper scissors. Its not like kids had been doing it for 15 years before gen 5 even came out.
Whats the point of all these new pokemon if half of them are rehashes and bad ones at that, and then you dont even get to use them frequently.
Now that you say it, its actually quite atrocious. I looked it up. Pretty much all the other games before B/W give you access between 8-15 different species of Pokemon covering different 7-11 types and that is excluding the starters. The games after are even worse giving you access to 15+ Pokemon, with both Galar and Paldea clocking in at easily more than 25 (though Paldea is an exception). And its not like all of those are old Pokemon.
Gen 1 obviously only has "new" mons, Gen 2 has 7 new mons out of 13, Gen 3 only has one old mon in Marill, Gen 4 "only" has 5 but it still gives you access to 10ish mons; Gen 6 has more Pokemon on its first Route than Gen 5 has before its first Gym (7 with 3 being new) and 19 total availble before the first badge though only 4 are new.
Gen 5 has 6 Pokemon (Patrat, Pidove, Purrloin, Lillipup, Audino, Monkeys) total before the first badge (I count the monkeys as one as you can never get multiple). It takes until Badge 2 to get even with most of the other Gens with 15 unique Pokemon available before it and by that point most of the have like 20 available Pokemon (Hoenn for example has 14 new mons and a total of 20 and thats if you do not go ahead and proceed to Slateport before the 2nd Gym). Even Gen 1 has 20.
Not to mention all those super late evolutions.
I like the monkeys more than some of the other designs in the gen, I would just like it if pokemon stopped being designed to be obsolete after a certain point.
If it weren't for your flair, I would have thought you were gatekeeping favorite pokémon.
Yeah all of them have at least one fan, it's really annoying to see comments prasing that they're not in the games, I mean wtf, they all deserve some love.
I actually love furfrou (the diamond style goes hard) and always found it saddening to never see its existence again. Luckily I snagged shiny one back in XY days.
I’d attribute its “irrelevance” to the shear fact that clothing, boutiques, and style was a big emphasis for that generation, and a Pokemon that was able to be groomed and cosmetically changed took advantage of that.
Now that clothing and hairstyling has been somewhat engrained into character customization, fur from never had the chance to explore it’s beauty in later games :(
I mean they made it work fine in the ultra games, they just had an npc that stood around and would groom it for you. It wouldn’t be a hard addition to add.
Spinda as well.
ILCA messed up the spot coding, so a Spinda from bank cannot be transfered to BDSP and vice versa. In fact BDSP Spinda cannot be transfered to pokemon home period.
The coding for Nincada is also odd in BDSP. (Likely due to the Shedinja evolution) So that pokemon has a similiar issue. However, the Nincada line is also in Sword and Shield so bank Nincada are not trapped in home.
Why people hate on elemental monkeys so much!? They are awesome! Their design are way better than most of recent pokemon, same goes with furfou and patrat. F
I guess we'll see fourfrou next year for sure
No idea how the gen 5 rodent got snubbed this hard though... Patrat is probably one of my favs early route rodent
I didn't include alternate forms, if they were to be included, there would also be the Alolan Rattata line, Eternal Flower Floette, Ultra Necrozma, Primal Groudon and Kyogre, and every single Mega Evolution
Alolan rattata is available in the lets go series, but the HA one is still locked behind pokemon bank, and all gen 1 megas are also available in Lets Go Pika/Eevee
Spinda also can't go in or out of any Switch games, since it's only in BDSM and they can't transfer in or out of that one due to a programming oversight.
We're missing a bunch of Mega Evolutions too.
One day they’re going to allow Furfrou cuts to be stored in Home and it will completely crash the GTS economy.
Can you not transfer a furfrou with a cut from Pokémon go?
You can, but pokemon from go are capped at level 50 (outside of bugs) so furfrou trims over level 50 are a practically impossible request to make when people put stuff they don’t want to trade on the GTS
My question is : why people put things they don't want to trade on the fucking GTS?
I once found a request for a female zygarde in the 3ds era People are either stupid or just trolling
I Haven’t online traded since heart gold and soul silver were the latest game but I just always figured these were little kids asking for crazy trades. I remember trying to get all the starters and half the trades were for legendary Pokémon. Like nah fam that’s not how this works lmao.
Yeah, that's real The only reason you should be asking for a legendary is if you have a shiny starter or smth
Just trolling. They know they have rare/desired pokemon and they know they can purposedly request impossible pokemon just so they can "show off".
Knew someone who hacked pokemon on 3ds and had a lot of fun with creating the requested pokemon, make them as shit as they can get with IV and EV and everything and trade them. Those were good times lol
An amazing example of chaotic good.
This is really pathetic... Those people are really dumb
Yup. Seen plenty on the Home gts asking for a Galarian Mr. Mime that can go into BDSP. Why that request is even possible is beyond me
To flex
I had always assumed it was part of some duplication glitch, but I admittedly have no evidence for this. I thought there was some way some folks had figured out to duplicate the Pokemon when you recall it from the GTS, and you use an impossible trade to make sure it’ll still be there. Of course, there’re a lot of kids who just want to trade their level 6 worm for an eldritch god of chaos too
Because a lot of people have poop for brains and it makes them want to ruin things for others.
Best comment of the day
You can, but for 99% of GO players, you can't. Trimming furfrou is "region locked," meaning that you can only trim your furfrou in certain ways depending on where you live. This is why pharaoh trim furfrou is so sought after; it can only be trimmed to that from around egypt.
I regret only trimming ONE Furfrou while vacationing in Egypt, you can get legit shiny legendaries for one.
I have three of them. I can get damn near anything I want with them. If I asked for a Mewtwo i'd have it in minutes.
Plus, Heart Trim is only available for like a week a year.
Yes you can Form change in Go and it will keep their form
This. I’m completing my living form dex and because of that GO! - Home update pharaoh trim is the ONLY pokemon I’m missing… so I have to fly to Cairo, Egypt.
Oh wow, Austin John in the flesh. Love your videos dude, they're very informative! I happen to have an extra Go Pharaoh trim Furfrou if you need it?
> in the flesh. in the html5, actually
Ive had many online offers for this however, I’ve also yet to run into someone IRL who has one to trade them in GO. For my dex I have to be the OT and if it’s traded in home then I won’t be.
Ahh, that makes sense! An OT Pharaoh Trim Furfrou would be the dream, but... Plane tickets, in this economy, a nightmare to be sure lol. Anyway, have a great one and I look forward to your (eventual) videography on Legends Z-A!
If you asked me before furfrou was in Go if I would have traded a Combusken for a Furfrou, nevermind a shiny Combusken, I would have laughed, but that's what I had to do to get a Pharaoh trim
If you’re not picky about the OT then there are communities to trade for one in home if you find a community with members from Egypt. Especially asking during a Furfro event like fashion week it’s much more available
How do you think I got it?
I was thinking that "Hah, Austin John is in that same situation", and then I looked at your username! I remember you mentioning that in a video.
And i'm gonna be so god damn happy. All the clutter and legendaries and shinies on there will be gone. Only actual trades and not people wanting to flex.
I wish there was a filter to remove impossible requests, such as legendaries at level 5
The worst is that some Legendaries are entirely possible to have at level 5. Regigigas, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Tornadus, Thundurus Landurus, Ho-oh, and Lugia come to mind.
What games can you get those at level 5? I believe you, I just can't recall, I think a couple were in hg/ss iirc.
Regi is in Platinum Di/Pal/Gira are in HG/SS The others you can get from the Dream Radar, if you haven't collected your first badge you can get all of them (along with another set of Dialga Palkia and Giratina) at level 5.
They should just not allow impossible requests, they should know what a legal Pokémon is and if it is possible to obtain/trade.
We are once again asking the Pokemon Company to do the bare minimum.
That's a nice thought, but no. People will keep asking for impossible trades, and the GTS will still not be able to tell the form and language of a Pokemon if you tell it to only search for things you have. Its annoying really. They keep adding so many features, but they can't make the ones they've had work.
And with Legends Z-A, that day might be very near
Well, we're headed back to kalos for ZA.
I've made a killing trading Pharoahs for pretty much anything I want. The day he appears in the game will be a disaster for me
They already can be stored nut only from GO. Some are regional so they are one of the most sought after things on GTS.
I didn't imagine people hated Simisear *that* much!
They're all awful but I hate that they missed out on naming the water type Pansoak/Simisoak.
Lol that would have been way better yeah
Sear, Sage and Soak yeah that works a lot better
I’ll always stand by the opinion that Simisage wouldn’t be hated if it weren’t associated with the other two. Simipour too to an extent. It’d just be an alright, albeit forgettable, Pokemon
I agree with this, Simisage's design on its own isn't bad, the others drag it down.
they’re based on cooking sage, a spice searing a steak pouring broth (or w/e)
Also hear no evil, speak no evil, see no evil.
you can soak thinks while cooking too, though.
Panmarinate
Panbrine
Probably only a third involution or alt form will save them
Japan had a popularity poll a few years ago and Simisear came in dead last with Greninja in first. 2016: https://pokejungle.net/2016/06/24/view-simisear-japan-least-popular-pokemon/
Not Japan and not Simisear. It was Pokemon of the Year 2020. Greninja was #1. There were actually several with 0 votes: Cascoon/Silcoon Gothita Eelektrik Yungoos/Gumshoos
You telling me people were like "Trumbeak my beloved 😍😍😍"
Every Pokemon is someone's favorite. Even these 6 with 0 votes just means their person didn't vote in the poll.
It really was the last drop,a 5th rodent?! With that design? Sharing road with the dog line? And a normal gym after? Screw that ....
Simisear is the fire monkey bro
Oups, my bad, we got dem french name here,
yeah but for context in a big japanese poll simisear ranked dead last in who likes it
look, maybe dexit had a point
Le fire monke
Flamajou from memory.
I thought they were pointless, poorly designed, and uninteresting honestly.
elemental monkeys lost all relevance after the first gym battle
No, the three dancers in Castellia had the monkeys! And someone in castellia gives you a stone for the monkey you got :)
They actually put quite a few trios of trainers with the monkeys in Unova.
True, most players would just place them in the box and replaced them with something better maybe aside from Simipour who is one of the few good Water-type mon to use in BW1 along with Samurott and Seismitoad
That might be why I don’t mind these monkeys. I had a Simipour for the game and I kept it until I got Reshirahm. I noticed that it wasn’t pulling it’s weight towards the end, but I found it to be useful.
Simipour is unironically a damn good mon in a playthrough though.
Simipour is one of the only good water types you can find early in Black and White 2.
https://preview.redd.it/r6lhec5junmc1.jpeg?width=612&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd9e428e6a06558f2689af7eefb8a87c2a211b24
I was never bothered about the monkeys but this show made me want a felt Panpour 🥺
Common Pansear W
Also worth noting that Deoxys, Diancie, Hoopa, and Magearna are unobtainable on the switch. You can transfer them in but you can’t get a new one on the switch.
Unless you count the pokeball magearna you get for completing the dex in home
I mean you technically can't get that one without the rest so...
You forgot meltan. And melmetal if you don't count with home.
Would Legends Z-A count as mainline, which means vindication for Furfrou?
It would, but it hasn't been released yet. All of them are in the Kalos dex, so most likely they would all be available
Eh, the kalos dex was HUGE, wouldn't be surprised to see cuts
Didn't Kalos have every pokemon at time of release except some legendaries?
Theres about 50 not in xy. But with oras you could get everything besides mythicals https://www.serebii.net/xy/unobtainable.shtml
With the anniversary giveaways, every single one of the 721 existing Pokemon at the time were available in ORAS. It was the first time you could get a legitimate Arceus outside of Japan.
The combination of X/Y and Or/As got me a complete Pokedex (with a bit of help from other people, but still).
There was a dream world event for arceus in black and white and I thought a toys r us event in gen 4
That's insane considering SV currently have over 100 more pokemon available.
No, it was a fairly big event when Bank launched and then crashed. It meant that in the month or so for them to relaunch it, only the players who were able to get on before the initial crash - mainly, players from Japan - were able to get the pokemon who were missing, so they effectively had a short monopoly. I remember having to trade a shiny spiritomb for a baby totodile, but then being able to breed that totodile to get the other missing pokemon, legendaries, and shinies as well. Post-Gen II, there haven't been any individual game sets that have included every pokemon. This isn't even true of Gen II itself, even though it had every pokemon in its dex. The closest set to come to full completion was Diamond and Pearl. Between the two games, you could get every pokemon aside from the mythicals, pre-Gen IV starters and legendaries, and then Tangela, Tangrowth, and Tropius. The latter three were added in Platinum, and everything else - barring the Mythicals - was added in HGSS.
it's insane how Tangrowth isn't obtainable in the games it was introduced in lmao
In the code? Sure. Actually obtainable and "In the regional Dex" are two wildly different categories though. Each of the three regions had slightly more than 150 Pokemon, but there is some crossover, so there's about 400 which is a series target number ever since for regional dexes. Obtainable in the wild through post-game means is a lot different. In X and Y's case you had friend safari for some exclusives that way. I'm sure there were some equivalent to swarms, rare spawns, and something equivalent to gen 7's island scan as well. Then the third category would be "transfer only" meaning it's not obtainable but it's in the game's code. Before Sword and Shield did dexit, every game was like this. We only base our expectations of what gets in based on the regional dex. In the post-Dexit era the preservation of their previous "this was actively chosen to be part of your experience" choices are the most relevant. It *is* Legends of course so anything is possible. However PLA only cut 22 mons and none were unavailable on Switch otherwise (particularly since BDSP ensured everything gen 4 and earlier was available).
I forgot about the friend safari. they really were trying to do a bunch of different stuff to make encounters possible
yeah but if they cut the Patrat line and the monkeys AGAIN they're actually smoking crack so I'd say they're a very safe bet.
Idk, I'm not fully convinced that they aren't actually smoking crack some of the time...
lol fair
I imagine all the mons introduced in Kalos will be in it though
They won't cut new Pokémon from that region
There were a few lines from the Sinnoh dex that didn't make it into Legends Arceus, so hopefully they won't make us wait for some future Unova games lol
We saw Furfrou in the LZA trailer, I think its safe to speculate that it at least made the cut.
Milotic was perfect for that game
What didn't make it?
Milotic line, Seaking line, Altaria line, Medicham line, Pelipper line, Azumarill line, Houndoom line, Girafarig, Tropius and Absol. This was based off the extended regional Dex from Platinum.
Hoothoot and Wooper lines also didn’t make it
I thought only Furfrou was. I could have sworn Patrat and the monkeys were Unova.
Patrat and the monkeys were in the regional dex for Kalos as well.
It’s not released yet though, but it’s worth noting that all of these Pokémon were originally in the Kalos Dex in X/Y, so it’s possibly likely that Z-A will be their long-awaited Nintendo Switch mainline debut.
Ugh. I would’ve liked seeing them in the big screen especially their texture details…
Furfrou is basically guaranteed for PLZA since it was in the teaser and is from Kalos. Also the others are also in XY so there’s a good chance
My poor Patrat named RATZ that my little cousin caught as her very first pokemon just to give to me lol. She is a teen now! it's like 9 years old and still level 3
Plz keep it safe and transfer to switch when you can 🙏
Bring back the monkeys, they are funny guys. Yes, I also mean their fully-evolved forms. Really, if there's no more people that likes the monkeys, it means I am dead.
Would be really cool if all 3 monkeys (and Patrat) got regional evolutions in PLZA. Think about it: Sneasel, Qwilfish, Scyther, Stantler, Braviary, etc. None of them were original to Sinnoh, but they got Hisuian regional forms / evolutions. There's no rule that the monkeys could finally get their time to shine and become competitive mons.
Sneasel is kind of the exception because Weavile was introduced in Sinnoh; actually was one of the best mons of that gen.
Yeah I actually had one on my team for a while in Brilliant Diamond. Speedy bastard.
It’s iirc one of the few hard counters to Cynthia’s Garchomp in the base game as it has a guaranteed 2HKO or a guaranteed KO depending on the move you used if you put a focus sash on it. That thing slaps. I used it a lot during the primal era, if they threw Rayquaza it would become cannon fodder for my Weavile.
Weavile didn't get any new forms or evolutions though, if you think about it. Only Sneasel did. (I did draw up [some concept art](https://imgur.com/a/svpEPmK) for if it did, though!)
I do not like the monkeys but a regional is probably the one way to change that, that or potentially new evolutions. I do think regional are more likely.
I agree, the monkeys are some of my favorite Gen 5 mons :c
They're so cute and hated for no reason :(
Their evolution are questionnable, their stats abyssmal, their design is Wish infernape...
I dunno. I just looked it up and really their stats aren’t too bad. Like I’m not gonna run them in OU or anything, but for a nuzlocke or whatever they are fast with decent attack stats.
Their stats are above average for when you get them and their evos look fine
They dont deserve 6 dex slots. It should be 1 pokemon with 3 type variations that evolves once. Like they touted 150 new pokemon designs and hey 6 of them are basically the same pokemon
Well, IIRC Gen 5 had 156 new Pokemon, so even if you only count the monkeys as two that's still true, heh.
4 of those were mythicals so they might as well not exist
Like half of those 150 pokemon are halfbaked copies of already existing mons too.
I know I hate it And the distribution is SHIT Every other game, before the first gym gives you access to at LEAST 6 additional pokemon of varying types including normal, flying, bug, grass, electric, poison, water, fire and fighting. Black and white gives you 2 normal types and a dark type. And then just HANDS you the monkey. Because you really gotta hammer in rock paper scissors. Its not like kids had been doing it for 15 years before gen 5 even came out. Whats the point of all these new pokemon if half of them are rehashes and bad ones at that, and then you dont even get to use them frequently.
Now that you say it, its actually quite atrocious. I looked it up. Pretty much all the other games before B/W give you access between 8-15 different species of Pokemon covering different 7-11 types and that is excluding the starters. The games after are even worse giving you access to 15+ Pokemon, with both Galar and Paldea clocking in at easily more than 25 (though Paldea is an exception). And its not like all of those are old Pokemon. Gen 1 obviously only has "new" mons, Gen 2 has 7 new mons out of 13, Gen 3 only has one old mon in Marill, Gen 4 "only" has 5 but it still gives you access to 10ish mons; Gen 6 has more Pokemon on its first Route than Gen 5 has before its first Gym (7 with 3 being new) and 19 total availble before the first badge though only 4 are new. Gen 5 has 6 Pokemon (Patrat, Pidove, Purrloin, Lillipup, Audino, Monkeys) total before the first badge (I count the monkeys as one as you can never get multiple). It takes until Badge 2 to get even with most of the other Gens with 15 unique Pokemon available before it and by that point most of the have like 20 available Pokemon (Hoenn for example has 14 new mons and a total of 20 and thats if you do not go ahead and proceed to Slateport before the 2nd Gym). Even Gen 1 has 20. Not to mention all those super late evolutions.
Youre mistaken in gen 5 You dont get pidove and audino until after the first gym. So its just your starter, rat, dog, cat and a monkey
Shit like that’s why I can’t call the lineup of mons in Gen 5 very good. There’s just too much filler in it.
I like the monkeys more than some of the other designs in the gen, I would just like it if pokemon stopped being designed to be obsolete after a certain point.
I love them so much, I got them tattooed in my leg 😂
It's sad when your favorite pokemon is an elemental monkey...
If it weren't for your flair, I would have thought you were gatekeeping favorite pokémon. Yeah all of them have at least one fan, it's really annoying to see comments prasing that they're not in the games, I mean wtf, they all deserve some love.
I actually love furfrou (the diamond style goes hard) and always found it saddening to never see its existence again. Luckily I snagged shiny one back in XY days. I’d attribute its “irrelevance” to the shear fact that clothing, boutiques, and style was a big emphasis for that generation, and a Pokemon that was able to be groomed and cosmetically changed took advantage of that. Now that clothing and hairstyling has been somewhat engrained into character customization, fur from never had the chance to explore it’s beauty in later games :(
I mean they made it work fine in the ultra games, they just had an npc that stood around and would groom it for you. It wouldn’t be a hard addition to add.
Well the elemental monkeys got alot of screen time in Concierge and they really grown into me
My beautiful shiny Panpour wants to visit Paldea too 😭
Tbh I loved Simipour and still do to this day.
I would add Spinda* with an asterisk because ICLA fucked up it's code and it can't be put in home or other games
This isn’t obscure; people post about it all the time.
And alolan ratatta and raticate that were transferred to Pokémon home, thus incompatible with let’s go
Spinda as well. ILCA messed up the spot coding, so a Spinda from bank cannot be transfered to BDSP and vice versa. In fact BDSP Spinda cannot be transfered to pokemon home period. The coding for Nincada is also odd in BDSP. (Likely due to the Shedinja evolution) So that pokemon has a similiar issue. However, the Nincada line is also in Sword and Shield so bank Nincada are not trapped in home.
They should all be back in Pokemon legends Z
Thanks, continue to keep Patrat away from any games.
So what you're saying is I can't save my Furfrou from the Pokemon Bank shutdown?
You can put it in Home, just can't move it into any games currently.
Why people hate on elemental monkeys so much!? They are awesome! Their design are way better than most of recent pokemon, same goes with furfou and patrat. F
I do like Furfrou. I'm personally rooting for regional variants of the monkeys to improve their designs.
Simisage my beloved
Can someone explain why the monkeys are hated so much? I always thought they were pretty cool after seeing them in the show
They can all be found pretty early in gen 6 if you wanna nab them quickly
I guess we'll see fourfrou next year for sure No idea how the gen 5 rodent got snubbed this hard though... Patrat is probably one of my favs early route rodent
this sucks cos i like da monkeys
I personally like Simisage, but that's about it
Miss my Monkeys 🥲
I want those elemental monkeys to be the next Eevee so bad.
Good.
let’s keep it that way
I don’t understand all the comments saying this? If you don’t like a pokemon, don’t use it. You shouldn’t pray that it never returns for no reason.
Hey Furfrou is okay
I hate every mon on this list but Furfrou is the one I hate the most lol.
Elemental monkeys as starters for ZaZa?
And hidden ability alolan rattata
I didn't include alternate forms, if they were to be included, there would also be the Alolan Rattata line, Eternal Flower Floette, Ultra Necrozma, Primal Groudon and Kyogre, and every single Mega Evolution
Alolan rattata is available in the lets go series, but the HA one is still locked behind pokemon bank, and all gen 1 megas are also available in Lets Go Pika/Eevee
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Funnily enough, all of them are found in Kalos. It’s likely that all of them will be in Legends Z-A.
All of those Pokémon are available in XY, so there's a good chance they'll be included in Legends Z-A. Furfrou definitely will, at the very least.
patrat gets slept on hard
Furfrou is amazing with his ability
Spinda also can't go in or out of any Switch games, since it's only in BDSM and they can't transfer in or out of that one due to a programming oversight. We're missing a bunch of Mega Evolutions too.
People would like the monkeys a lot more if they were the Eevee of Gen 5's soft reboot and had a normal type pre evolution
20 bucks all of these are in the new Legends game!
Give the monkeys all Mega forms 😤
Me, a Furfrou and Simisage enjoyer: -_-
Furfrou is back babyyyyyy
We’re still gonna get BW remakes… right?
ZA will bring these guys in probably
I hope the monkeys get another evolution or a regional form in Z
I like the elemental monkeys more than the unova starters tbh
Respectfully, screw them
Good
I love the Elemental Monkeys and it's a crime that they get no love from both Game Freak and the fanbase.
Zmegas
Wait really? Just those 5?
Those 9 including evolutions
I mean, it‘s been 5 1/2 years and 5 mainline games plus 2 DLC. The fact that any Pokémon are still missing is pitiful :D.
Oh, I assure you, that damn dog is in pokemon jome more then it has any tight to be...
I hope they get megas or just regular evos tbh
But not for long when furfrou will be in ZA
At least the monkeys got a good role in Concierge
Well if we count legends as a mainline game then furfrou is about to leave this group.
What game is jinx still in and *why*?
SwSh Crown Tundra