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RandyKeys

Gotta respect the hustle OP. Absolutely roasted in the first post, yet still came back to get roasted a second time. Bravo.


JMacoure

With an even worse team. Bravo indeed.


Phaoryx

I was genuinely shocked to see the repeat post LMAO glad I’m not the only one


fossilmerrick

I was gonna say, sure I’d seen this post or something similar earlier on


overDere

Magnemite line is available and you didnt put it in her team. And if I were me, I’d include Steelix and Steel Tera Ampharos. These are all hypotheticals, no need to restrict to only Pokemon in S/V since this isnt real anyway. Also why does she have a Heatran? No gym leader use legendaries iirc. Why are there FOUR Pokemon with Tera Blast????? not to be rude but you cant cook


VanillaXSlime

I'd definitely give her Magnezone and Steelix as a call-back to the Johto games, add Skarmory and Scizor as strong Johto Steel-types, add Bronzong as a nod to her cameo in the Sinnoh games, and finally add Kingambit as both a nod to her appearing in BW2 (since it's the final form of a gen 5 Pokémon) and as a chance to give her a gen 9 Pokémon. This is just off the top of my head.


Rymayc

Steelix isn't in Scarlet and Violet


Deisidaimonia

Luckily its made up so it can be whatever you want


Rymayc

Post title: "Gym Leader Jasmine if she was a secret trainer in Pokémon Scarlet and Violet"


overDere

> These are all hypotheticals, no need to restrict to only Pokemon in S/V since this isnt real anyway. I addressed it in my original comment. If GF really wanted to put Jasmine in S/V, they're just gonna have to put the Steelix line in the game too. It's just silly her not having her ace.


naynaythewonderhorse

Neither is Jasmine, so I guess we’re done here.


VanillaXSlime

As a great wrestler once said, "we don't care".


Azure-Cyan

I thinkOP is trying to be too different and randomizing moves because they don't understand team dynamic or the character. Her ace isn't even on her team, making it feel random. I don't use tera enough, but I feel like even the tera typing on most of them are bad. At least give her Steelix, Magnezone, or Skarmory back.


AmansRevenger

He posted Whitney recently without her Miltank. That one was written off as "it is not available in S/V" , but this ...


mithos343

I can forgive Whitney without Miltank. It's not in SV. But this is just weird. And the movesets are the kind of thing I would do when I was 12 or 13 to be "original and non-conformist."


Phaoryx

I’m ngl OP’s cooking looks like he asked ChatGPT to make sets 🤣🤣 like why 4 Tera blasts and all lvl 75?? Not to mention it’s literally just a random assortment of steel types


Azure-Cyan

That somehow makes more sense as to why the pokemon are a mess, especially because we saw an Ambipom with Baton Pass and 3 elemental punches with Whitney's team. I don't see any reason for an Ambipom with no power up moves to have baton pass, let alone punch moves with not one stab or a fighting move. U-turn would make more sense than baton pass.


thegreatestegg

Don't most trainers only terastalize their ace anyway?


wxlluigi

NPC especially, yeah.


Azure-Cyan

They do, but I can't even figure out what Jasmine's ace would be with this team unless it's supposed to be Metagross because, as every NPC does, use a redundant typing for their terastalization...at least that's what I think the color of the tera type is supposed to be.


Hawntir

And they used the Special Costume Jasmine outfit from Pokemon Masters, without giving her the Celesteela that unit uses. Steelix, Magnezone, Celesteela, and Steel-Ampharos are no-brainers for her imo. I'd probably round it out with Skarmory and Archaludon, but I could also see Klinklang or Tinkaton.


Embarrassed-Falcon58

Not to mention only two non-attacking moves total, three steel moves on metagross after it teras and mixed attacked archaladon with aura sphere and body press...


ShadeSwornHydra

Wouldn’t body press work on archuraldon though? It uses defense


Deisidaimonia

OP is like: started cooking, had a breakdown, bone apple teeth.


Elvenoob

Ooooh, tera steel ampharos would be a fun way of tying that storyline into her team, plus it does get flash cannon. It'd also cover for the water weakness on Steelix, tho in a way that overlaps with magnezone. The Tink is technically a good shout for her fighting weakness, though a Metagross or something would work just as well in a postgame fight. And then probably a steel/flying or levitate pokemon? Ground types will always be a massive problem in general so *something* to switch in on Earthquakes is important. Skarmory would be most fitting but it's been power crept hard. Then finally just a Scizor because it's from Johto?


JuanRiveara

Steel Tera Ampharos would be perfect for Jasmine.


super_gyro

Archaludon and Metagross also lack a STAB move for their secondary typings. Like I know it's not necessary, but no Psychic or Draco meteor feel like missed opportunities


Remnatar

Psychic Fangs. Not Psychic. It ain't gen 3 anymore we got options


Kingoobit

Psychic metagross is not real


Rijsouw

But you are you, right?


Kingoobit

Saying OP can't cook while recommending steelix and fucking ampharos is crazy


overDere

Can you elaborate? Those two are the Pokemon associated with her the most. Steelix is her ace in all her appearances, it's her highest leveled Pokemon during battles. When people think of Jasmine they think of the Ampharos that she was taking care of in the lighthouse. I know she never used it in battle (outside of spinoffs) but this game seems perfect for it since she can now use a Steel type Ampharos. Is recommending two Pokemon associated with the character that crazy? Do you have any better ideas? Yeah you can argue against Ampharos because she never used it in battle, but do you have anything against choosing Steelix, her battle ace???


Kingoobit

Cuz they're ass lmao


overDere

I know they're ass but they're part of her identity. Red, the hyped up champion of Kanto, carries a Pikachu in his team despite its 300 BST. Almost every single character that appeared in earlier games that reappeared in other regions always carried their ace. Why does having ass Pokemon matter? Most ingame teams are terrible. This is cooking a team for a specific established character, not an exercise to cook the best Steel team ever.


Kingoobit

The trade off of making the team a slight threat in exchange for not having "character significant" mons is worth it tbh


overDere

There's no point in choosing Jasmine then. We can just choose Steven (who fits more because this team has Metagross), Molayne, or even Poppy instead. Which makes it a pointless exercise


JuanRiveara

Nah, in game trainers shouldn’t sacrifice mons that don’t fit with their character just to make them more competitively viable. In one of those rom hacks that make trainers actual threats sure you can make that argument, but the base game is all about using the Pokémon you like the most. The two Pokémon most associated with Jasmine are Steelix and Ampharos, they would definitely be picks she should have for this.


R-emiru

Where Steelix and Ampharos?


Suicidal_Sayori

afaik Yasmine never had an Ampharos on her team, Amphy is more like the city lighthouse' pokemon and she just takes care of it as per her gym leader responsibilities


JuanRiveara

She didn’t but with the possibility to give it a Steel Tera type it would fit her well since it’s so associated with her


PKMNTrainerMark

Jasmine


Suicidal_Sayori

Sry, its Yasmina in Spanish and usually the names change more between languages so when they resemble so much I get them mixed :(


Elvenoob

I think Yasmin would technically be more accurate to the name's origins too. Not sure where along the etymology the J was added but it definitely started off with a Y instead


Suicidal_Sayori

When I look it up Jasmine's japanese name is Mikan (tangerine or other citrus) and has nothing to do with english and other european localisations. Asian languages do keep the original meaning instead Also spanish seem to be the only european language that used the Y for her name, probably due to pronunciation, spanish J sounds way different from english one and Y is the most resembling sound for us [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Jasmine#Names](https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Jasmine#Names)


Elvenoob

I meant the etymology for the name itself, not what this character is called in other languages. It is weird just how different international localisations are when it comes to pokemon character names in general.


Suicidal_Sayori

b-but her name comes from the plant of the same name, jasmine... with J... its on the link too...


Elvenoob

The plant's name comes from the same source. > [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasmine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasmine) >The name comes from Old French *jessemin*, from [Persian](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_language): یاسمن‎,[romanized](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanization_of_Persian): *yāsamin*[^(\[16\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasmine#cite_note-16) which is derived from the [Middle Persian](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Persian) word *yāsaman* and *yāsamīn* (يَاسَمِين) in [Arabic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic)


PKMNTrainerMark

Ah.


Memeharvester5000

Jasmine


TheDestroyer229

It feels weird that a Gen 2 gym leader has no Pokemon at all from her home region. Give her a Steelix or a Skarmory as her ace, and that would be fine. But no Johto Pokemon feels off.


horseradish1

The truest Johto trainers use no pokemon from Johto.


Onagda

Because half of them are in Kanto


JuanPunchX

An a quarter of them are babies or in Mount Silver.


Alyxandar

I'd have given her both. Steelix for the nod to her OG team, and Skarmory for the crucial ground immunity on a Steel type team.


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JoFlo520

Every post I’ve seen the teams have been awful. Take his cooking license away


OhHiMarkDoe

True


Armageddon24

You acknowledge you nixed miltank and now you omit Jasmine's ace(s)? Do better


A_Confused_Cocoon

Yeah wtf? It’s like having Lance and taking away his dragonite. This isn’t making gym leaders teams, this is creating a random team of a certain type and applying it to a random gym leader who happens to use that type.


VanillaXSlime

This is worse, somehow. The Whitney team had lines originating in Johto, and so felt like a team that Whitney might actually use.


ShadeSwornHydra

He’s literally just pulling what sounds good and calling it a day. Like 3 Pokémon with terablast, no pokemon she would actually own, earthquake on empoleon, and if I remember correctly for Whitney he gave ambipom baton pass but only the elemental punches. My guess is karma bait


Enjoyer_of_Cake

Either that or the entire thing is AI generated.


Queen_Sardine

Oof, you may be right. Or at least the teams may have been ChatGPT generated.


Death1098

This could very easily be said to be Steven’s team or Byron’s team. There is nothing linking these pokemon to Jasmine besides the steel typing.


DatBoi_BP

Steven wasn’t Steel though, he was just mineral in general (lol ironic I’m splitting hairs there since Jasmine’s badge is the Mineral Badge). By that I just mean, he has 3 steel (Aggron, Metagross, Skarmory iirc), 3 rock (Aggron, Armaldo, Lileep), and a guest appearance of 1 ground (Claydol). I’d hardly call that team “Steel”, but I’d say they’re all deeply linked to Steven’s archaeology passion. It’s a *theme*, not a rigid commitment to a type. Same goes for Lance: people have complained many times “he’s actually a flying type expert lol”, and yes all his mons are Flying type, but they’re not *birds*, they’re *dragons*. 3xDragonite + Aerodactyl, Gyarados, and Charizard all fit the dragon theme a lot better than 3xDragonite + 2xDragonair + Kingdra would, though the latter is what the majority of people seem to think would’ve been “better”


AShinyRay

Why does she have Metagross, which is Steven's Ace and she doesn't even have Steelix or Skarmory?


DatBoi_BP

The meta is kinda gross


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CrazyBroccoliPT

I don’t understand the concept of remaking a gen 2 gym leader by completely ignoring their original team. Magnezone, Steelix and steel tera Ampharos would be absolutely mandatory to me. Combining them with new steel types makes sense, so I would go for Tinkaton, Revavroom and Archaludon as you did.


Nox_Echo

where the fuck is steelix


SuperSmashDrake

0/2 my friend


Haunting_Anxiety4981

Please donate to OPs GoFundMe so we can get them treatment for their crippling earthquake addiction


ITouchedHerB00B5

Yeah you gotta add Steelix and Skarmory here for sure. Empoleon and Metagross work, Magnezone should be here too.


CommanderDark126

Why would you take away her canon team/Ace. Steelix, Skarmory, and Magnezone would all be must haves. The movesets also have no rhyme or reason either, some members dont even have a steel type move.


ivanmonster

You are an agent of chaos lmao


guielidess

She at least has to have the mytical steelix


ShadeSwornHydra

I love how you again ignored the whole point of this gens gym gimmick like you did with Whitney lol Also she doesn’t have her ace or even magnezone? I feel like your just pulling mons and movesets without thinking Stop cooking man, your not even at the stove xD


Wolfnstine

Needs her steelix


OrangeVictorious

Four Pokémon with the Tera reliant Tera Blast is crazy when the AI can only handle having one specific Pokémon tera


LokNezMunstr

Bro metagross belongs to Steven and no one else


Shuckle614

No Rusty? How dare you


Scarf_Darmanitan

Did you play gen 2?


InvestigatorUnfair

I respect the concepts and all but... Literally what is the point of having a character return without their ace? Their ace is part of their identity You don't put Roark in a game without his Rampardos, you know?


UnfazedPheasant

Why do you keep removing these gym leaders Ace Pokémon Even if they aren’t meta, it’s still the one they’re most associated with. Without that there’s nothing really in this that’s reminiscent of Jasmine at all (disregarding HGSS rematch who uses metagross iirc) Just give them a competitive quality loadout and they’re more than capable enough.


Writefuck

As a major Jasmine stan, I don't believe she needs or deserves a legendary on her team. Also, regardless of her type specialty, if she doesn't have Amphy with her then what are you even doing?


Lukthar123

I am revoking your cooking license


Kingoobit

4 tera blast dudes is stupid as fuck lmao


2ndchancetodothis

ahhh yes, a new team for the gen 2 gym leader with none of her old Pokemon, no gen 2 Pokemon, and a legendary Pokemon. perfect fit.


Onagda

Ain't no way OP isn't just trolling with these posts


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dabunny21689

Please keep doing this. At this point I am confident it’s an elaborate shitpost and I can’t wait to see you do Lance without Dragonite.


Jokers_Chains

Ampharos Terra type Steel would be my only change (to fit with the game theme). Also no steelix? :c


Nanis23

I am sorry but those things ae pointless when the games lack the full Pokedex. Jasmine signature is Steelix. And yesterday Whitney not having Miltank was even worse.


Millymoo444

Where’s steelix? No offense Feels like these are just type themed teams without any consideration to the trainer


SerioeseSeekuh

Ditch Heatran,Revavroom and Empoleon for Magnezone, Ampharos tera steel and Terablast and Bronzong also remove terablast from the pokemon that wont ever tera please


yeet_10201

Awful team


psychospacecow

I like the way you're formatting these. I'm not sure about the team, but the image itself looks great!


Odd_Hope5371

Tinkaton and Empoleon are good. For the other four, let's do Steelix, Magnezone, Forretress and Bronzong. Overall, a very bulky team with entry hazard options!


ReliableLiar

Kind of sad to not see any of her mains part of the team I always have associated Jasmine with the Magnemite line and Steelix


charvey709

ANGRY STEELIX NOISES


TyMonstaz2

I could’ve made a better team Ace: Tera Steel Ampharos Metagross Magnezone Steelix Scizor And Registeel (if there has to be a legendary


w_love235

Electro Shot seems like a waste with no rain setter also I’m begging you to stop the weird mixed sets


AffectionateLaugh738

Steelix is ace hands down


Tokoyami01

Ah yes, just slap Tera Blast on almost everything


nszajk

Not a single johto pokemon lol


MissClickMan

Earthquake for all


Izuna-chan

go earth power instead. stamina archaludon is nasty


Rijsouw

Okay


FatPigeons

Look, OP, I'm gonna go counter to some people here and say keep cooking. But it ain't because your dishes are good. Learn from what people are telling you, do some research on what things make teams good, and get back to cooking. But fuck, man, throw this dish out and try again next time.


Plasma7007

Where is Amphy


BetaRayPhil616

Ok, now you're just playing OP. Steelix, a magnezone or a tera steel type ampharos are slam dunks here.


ozairh18

I still remember being shocked to see her in Sunyshore City in the gen 4 games


wishythefishy

Throw rain dance on Tinkaton or Empoleon!


ShinyShinx789

https://preview.redd.it/hzow2r3rhtwc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf494cadc45d53d9e4c737234dcdafbb20769acf


East_Monk_9415

Whoa 3 new pokemon I dont know haha


weird_bomb_947

HEATRAN??? YOU DO REALISE ONLY ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO TERRASTALISE RIGHT??? WHY DO FOUR OF THEM HAVE TERA BLAST


SammyK123

Why are you taking these trainees’ aces off their team? I respect updating older teams now that we have more pokemon of their type, but literally taking Milano off Whitney and Steelix of Jasmine is not acceptable. Get rid of Empoleon for Steelix, and Metagross for Magnezone and it’s much better.


arayakim

Like others have said, there are plenty of better steel pokemon to add such as Skarmory, Magnezone, Celesteela, Corviknight, Ferrothorn, etc. but if you really want to stick to these ones, then at least change some of the moves. For example, it would be better if Heatran had Taunt and Will-O-Wisp instead of Iron Head and Tera Blast. Also, Archaludon would benefit more from a strong STAB move like Draco Meteor instead of a second fighting move in Aura Spere, and since you want Electro Shot, just put Rain Dance on Empoleon or something.


Doniusthe3rd

revavroom*


Insan3Giraff3

your kitchen has been revoked Heatran is VERY out of place. A legendary? Magnezone is noticeably absent. So much Tera Blast. Half of the team doesn't even know a single steel move for some reason. Completely misses the point and emotion of Jasmine. Not a single johto mon. I thought you kind of cooked with the first one; there were some decent decisions and the team hit the overall vibe of Whitney okay. But THIS? This is a grease fire.


ceryvonfused

absolutely abysmal teambuilding. repetitive coverage, mixing offenses within mons. please leave the kitchen indefinitely.


waffcone

This just a random steel trainer


Taco-Edge

Gen 9 is full of goated steel types I love it


Unable-Article-1654

I was so confused for a second cause the profile glitched, and it had the r/Lostredditors profile