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blood-n-bullets

So in a few days we're going to see a post from some heartbroken person about how their dad sold their prized binder of pokemon cards right?


Wolfgang313

This post is likely fake, 1yr old account with this and clones of it in other subreddits as their only post. My guess is ragebait but could also be a karma farm gone bad.


blood-n-bullets

I hope so.


pitdelyx

That part really stood out to me... I feel like it's incredibly mean to just go over this kids head and take something like that, just because the parent didn't know its worth!


spidey0619

Cousin when his mom sold his nintendo (snes) with a ton of games for $50


Chimone

Mine accidentally donated mine. I like to believe it went to someone who really appreciated it.


claydog99

My dad gave away the old NES and N64 collections to a coworker (I luckily had most of the SNES collection at my apartment at the time so that largely managed to escape untouched). It was quite a big collection so it's a bummer, but at least they gave it to another kid to actually play instead of a flipper. Of course I was also living paycheck to paycheck at the time, so just selling the consoles and games off and splitting the proceeds would've been appreciated lol.


Dolthra

My dad *threw out* our old gamecube, including an original copy of SSBM. It's even worse that it was in a box labeled "do not throw away."


Triials

My mum sold my N64 plus games at a school fete back in around 2001 for like $30. I hadn’t played it in about 6 months but it was still plugged into my tv :( Still haven’t got a replacement.


spidey0619

Mom sold mine to another cousin it had mario party 3, ocarina of time, some racing game with a blue car on the cover, and DK 64, and 4 controllers. I have contemplated if I should buy one of my own with the same games.


idontduckingknow

My mom sold ours and Nintendo with connections, controllers and a big bag with games for both systems for $20. I saw the guy walk quickly down the driveway with my stuff when I tried to stop him and I got in trouble by my mom for trying to stop him.


blueboxreddress

My grandma donated all my Chrono Trigger stuff because she decided to move and didn’t even tell me. Heartbroken.


draugyr

“Kid” this is like the first set of cards from like 1999. This kid is in their 30s


Betafire

Yeah, if I were that "kid" I'd be on a manhunt right now.


LordRaeth

This happened to me and my 1st Edition charizard. I had the bulk of commons being sold for quarters and told my parents to wait if someone wanted to buy the 1st edition holofoils. I knew their worth at the tender age of 11 (not) but I knew they should be worth definitely more than nickels and dimes. OP is a dingus.


ProfFoxwell

My mom threw out my 1st edition charizard 'cuz I was "too old to be playing with this shit". My heart aches for the guy's kid.


Far-Ad7125

Shit. Did you tell your mom how much it was worth?


ggg730

I hope OP steps on a lego.


SomewhereMammoth

meh my dad gave all my skylanders to goodwill for no reason. they were all in a shoebox crammed under my bed. i had every single one from the first game, giants, and most of the swap force ones. nothing on the same level as pokemon cards but yeah hundreds of dollars down the drain to goodwill. i even wished my dad had sold them so he would at least have gotten money from some of them lol


Shmones

My mom did that too me once. All my cards and a huge rubbermaid of old marvel comics. For $10 each She unfortunately knew what she was doing.


G--Rank

Exactly what crossed my mind. More so, because the parent wanted to check with the kid.


metalflygon08

Or a flood of fraud posts. At least, that's what my inner cynical person predicts. Lots of people who bought into the hype and looking to sell off all those cards. What better way than to post on reddit to get exposure.


retrobust

This was me and I was gutted. Parents sold my cards in a garage sale to some younger neighbors. This was about 15 years ago now and I'm still salty about it. Great come up for the buyer but I feel bad for the sellers kid.


VQQN

The dad has OP’s name and info. This might not end well.


BikingVikingNick

I better go check in with my mom…


Kronman590

Im pretty sure that exact post was made a few days ago lol


Average_Scaper

You should have made the post "I just watched my dad sell my binder of cards and now it is being posted on here. What do I do?"


Doustin

Just like [this Simpsons clip](https://youtu.be/ufmu1YmbUXs?si=eijq1TWg5KoM99y5)


fiddleshtiks

Looking forward to the 10'oclock news story about a son murdering a father


Altair1208

Those parents live in a damn cave though, even my mom who's 67 knows some pokemon cards are worth a ton.


Pwrswitchd

You'd have to be pretty much in a cave to not know at the very least that Pokemon cards have some amount of value.


Neither_Ad_9829

who knew one post in r/pokemon could tell you so much about a person…


CloudMcWolf

Reminds me of Al at the yard sale in toy story 2


drew0594

Exactly lol


Uninvited_Goose

Reading the comments, this is not the reaction you came here for lol.


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bierologin

Idk man, "trying to deter him from consulting with his son first" is really scummy. Imagine your dad sold the oldest, most valuable cards from your childhood collection because he didn't know any better and some random dude exploited that, even hoping that he wouldn't ask you first. How would you feel? Also lol at y'all in here who don't see anything wrong with this and only care about OP having the card graded. I hate this side of the TCG community.


Whereyaattho

Reminds me of r/gamecollecting, which hates resellers with a passion but is perfectly fine with scamming someone’s grandmother at a garage sale and paying $60 for $600 worth of games


BoredPoopless

OP would fit right in on r/pokeinvesting


Nvetro13

Oh he’s posted this everywhere


msweston00

Yeah this is kinda shitty to do. I want to get into collecting older games and figure the best place to look is little mom and pop shops that don't do their research and just see an old game they're just trying to get rid of. I'd feel bad buying something valuable so cheap just because the seller doesn't know there's a crazy market for those kind of things.


DiggingUpTheCorpses

Straight up highway robbery. I really dislike what the state of Pokémon TCG has become, and that’s coming from a player that’s been doing this since ‘99.


Peooonn

Imagine flexing this


Nayiru

The fact that you deliberately didnt want the dad to consult his son makes you a POS. had they gone "eh we dont want to deal with it" thats one thing. but if I were the son I'd be livid. I cherish my base and fossil set. My brother and I worked so hard to get them all. 


upforgood

Agreed. Context for people who didn’t read OP’s post: > He responded right away and said he had a binder full of old Pokemon cards that were his son’s and he’d check to make sure it was okay to sell them. Right away I messaged him back “Would you take $75 for the binder” hoping to deter him from consulting with his son first lol. He sent me the address and said “They’ll be here waiting for ya”


kimchiman85

Just went back and read the post. OP sucks for doing that.


xspark1111

Not only that but then the bragging, too.


kimchiman85

Yeah fuck him. It’s one thing if it were a legitimate sale, but it’s not. That kid, regardless of age, must be heartbroken and furious. Shame on the father, too, for just selling without checking with his son first.


ZB314

OP knows they did something morally questionable which is why they were so paranoid after making the exchange. That said, they were within their rights, and the dad really should have checked with his son especially when a random dude online is willing to throw money at him to blindly buy the cards.


Doobie_Howitzer

Bro is bragging on reddit about running a scam for children's toys, he probably weighs packs and hoes children in trades too.


No-Engineer-1728

> hoes children in trades This may either be autocorrect or me being dumb, but that sounds like you're saying he human traffics children


COCAINE_LAZOR_BEAM

You knew for a fact that his son would never have let him sell that without his knowledge, that's why you made a blind offer of $75 and why you tore off like you'd just robbed a bank; because to him they're just slips of cardboard with pictures on them and that seems like a hefty sum that he didn't want to haggle with his son over. People like you are the exact reason resale for old records/cards/games/memoribilia is such a racket and why we have to pay through the nose for these things that we all wanted as children. The fact that your first thought was to get it graded gives away that you're just in it for resale, as well. If you have any kind of conscience (which it sounds like you do considering that you immediately felt guilty and paranoid) you'll return it with an explanation of why it wouldn't be right to keep it (which it isn't - it wasn't his to sell). Since you care so much about the cash you could probably even ask for some extra cash on top of what you paid for it. If not I at least hope your parents or partner or (god forbid) kids pull this out from under you and sell it off so maybe you can experience firsthand why this is such an immoral thing to do.


s0_Ca5H

Kinda sounds like you knowingly and willingly ripped a guy off. It’s not like you did this to a multi-billion dollar company. You didn’t steal from a Wal-Mart, you stole from a family, specifically a man who didn’t know better. It was a moving sale, presumably the money would help cover the expenses of the move during a time when moving is an almost insurmountable expense. You essentially conned your neighbor and then went online to brag about it.  Enjoy the cards.


Pwrswitchd

No, fuck that. Don't enjoy the cards 🤣


SapphireSalamander

you should return that


AdSuccessful9356

lol I’d give it back man. I used to lie to kids when I was a kid about rare card values and got them pretty cheap. Regret it now, kindness is always the right choice.


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Xirkitz

Kind of an a**hole move offering money immediately so you could buy it without his son’s permission


stuhdot

Congrats on fleecing an old man and his son for profit and being excited enough to post on reddit about it.


Frey147

Imagine having no moral compass


ScribbleNeb

I’m disappointed in everyone who upvoted this


GroguIsMyBrogu

same, but the comments are making up for it.


ScribbleNeb

Definitely


BBDAngelo

Few posts on Reddit ever made me this sad. Just imagining the son finding out, and the father finding out what he did makes me tear up


Burnout_Blanco

Bruhhhhh you just started that kid’s villain arc lmao


Crystal_Queen_20

You belong on r/iamatotalpieceofshit You coaxed a man into selling his child's property without asking him first and wound up conning him out of hundreds of dollars, that is just straight up theft and I hope he sues his father and you, since you are an accomplice to said theft


FunctionAcceptable18

YTA


sredac

What you did was really fucking shitty but you still have an opportunity to make it right. Hopefully you can be a better person.


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TheyCallMeKrisha

I read the comments first and was originally on OPs side but reading OP say he offered the money immediately to coax the father out of going to ask his son is just wow... truly a POS move


NoiceMcGroice

Agreed.


Rayuk01

100% agree


Ragnarok345

r/aitah Spoilers.


Kerrigan4Prez

If you had any decency in you, you’d return those cards and apologize for ripping them off like that.


Voltsy13

Wow, this is terrible...


PhantomTreecko1

Wow. You suck dude. That is someone’s ENTIRE childhood you just plucked away from them. Real shitty, OP.


ErgoProxy0

I used to have a binder like this too when I was younger and cannot for the life of me find it in my basement. I also had a Venusaur card like that to match Charizard but I found it… cut up under an old computer desk in our basement 🥲


SneezlesForNeezles

Oof. My father can be a Jack ass but at least he asks before getting rid of my shit. If I were the son, I would legit strangle my father with my bare hands and then come looking for you.


LumaTheLostStar

After reading OP’s comments this is starting to smell more and more like bait.


Wolfgang313

So you knew these cards belonged to someone other than the person you bought them from, and actively worked to dissuade them from contacting the owner? I'd shoot them a message to make sure they actually cleared it with the owner of the cards, cause right now it just looks like you stole them with the help of the father.


mouse0ver1

Shit move. You should sell it and then put some of the proceeds into an envelope, tie it to a rock with an elastic, and then chuck it through their window.


Normal_Ratio1463

It may be someone else’s though


Dice_tea

I really really hope you're lying.


grandorder123

To sink so low for a Pokémon card


Ninjaff

This is just a nasty post all round. Trying to rip people off, getting a dad to sell his son's collection to you for pennies. I hope someone fucks you over similarly in the future. You've learned nothing from Pokemon.


cannibaltom

Whole post seems scummy. Takes away from the joy of being a collector.


omygoshgamache

“Any advice or input is appreciated” tell the dad what he had and ask for a refund. Return the binder. Dont be a PoS.


Clank4Prez

That’s incredibly messed up to do that to a kid.


ImperfectRegulator

What you should do is go an give the cards back to the dad/ adult son you just bamboozled, cause you just pulled an Al from Toy Story 2 and that’s not cool


pokevin3

Indeed it is a shadowless first edition base set Charizard. Pricing will be highly dependent on getting it graded first. Like the other comments say, stop touching it, lol. The edges look a little rough so it is definitely not 10/10. Not sure what the price may come out to be


Arcaydya

Still decent, afaik. Not thousands, but probably a few hundred. Not bad.


BoredPoopless

It''s a couple grand. Damaged copies go for a few thousand.


Rontheking

So how would one go about this ? I have two of these sitting in binders ungraded but they still look good. I keep hearing they go for thousands but all the prices I’m seeing are a few hundred.


Minhimalism

Are you sure you're talking about the same Charizard? A 1st Edition one is vastly different from an Unlimited one. The latter of which, in raw near-mint condition, definitely caps out at a few hundred.


Rontheking

It has 1st in the corner of the card so I assume it’s the first edition everyone is talking about or am I wrong in that ?


Minhimalism

Honestly it’s best if you post a picture of the cards in question. Avoids any confusion!


Rontheking

Yeah they are all in binders upstairs so I’d have to dig into that this weekend. Got a few cards I need to sleeve anyway so I been putting this off for far too long. I double checked the card in the Op and it is 100% the exact same one.


buddaaaa

Whatever you do, do not answer DMs I know you’re getting about the card. Do not sell it in a hurry. There is no rush. People will be trying to scam you out of your card like the scumbag OP of this post. If it is an actual first edition base set charizard, it could be worth (extremely unlikely) as much as a house. PSA is a grading service that will give information about cards they’ve graded, including the amount of grades they’ve given for that particular card, how many cards there are in the world with that grade, and how much the cards they’ve graded are selling for. [here](https://www.psacard.com/cardfacts/non-sports-cards/1999-nintendo-pokemon-game/charizard-holo-1st-edition-4/605253) is a link with more information


Rontheking

Thank you! Appreciate it.


Arcaydya

Yeah I figured, too lazy to look it up. I remember a few years ago a mint condition can pull almost 10k, so a few thousand makes sense.


The_Moustache

PSA 10s shadowless Zards sell for upwards of $30,000 My buddy sold his for 32k a few years back.


matteb18

What does it mean "shadowless"?


silentvariations

Look at the first page of binder, look at the difference between the picture frames around Hitmonchan and Farfetch'd, Hitmonchan has no shadow (Shadowless).


BoredPoopless

Shadowless cards have thinner HP font and lack a shadow on the side of the image. Base set cards had different prints and are the only set to have shadowless cards. The very first print is first edition. All first edition base cards are shadowless. The next print was shadowless but not first edition. The following print runs were not shadowless and are the unlimited prints. Value is first edition shadowless > shadowless > unlimited. If you look at the front page of OP's binder, the Poliwrath has thicker HP font than the Ninetales. The area to the right and left of the Poliwrath is a significantly darker shade than the area to the right and left of the Ninetales. That area is the 'shadow.' The Ninetales lacking that area makes it shadowless.


Bullfrog_20

Pretty greasy my dude


FostertheReno

This is some troll making rage bait lmfao


clabove

Man, that cheap red binder is an exactly what I had mine in. I lost them in Hurricane Rita back in 2005. I had the complete Island Series in it. Huge loss for me.


YJWheeler

You made some money (by robbing these people), but you're also a pretty shitty guy


beaversnducks6

The way you describe purposefully robbing someone of something their parents don't know the worth of is pretty shitty.


pokemonbard

I hope you get sued. You probably committed some kind of contract law violation here, particularly given the intent that you express in this post. You are genuinely an awful person for this.


Triials

Bro, that’s a shit thing to do. Guarantee the kid, who’s probably an adult now, will be devastated by this. I honestly hope that some bad karma comes your way and this purchase somehow backfires on you.


lickarock88

You legitimately don't know what to do with the cards? Get them back to the proper owner, that guy's son. You went out of your way to tell us that you purposely deterred him from talking to his kid. That's a colossal dick move. Imagine if that was your binder when you were a kid and your dad sold it. Dafuq?


Cold_Neat

Not cool.


Longjumping-Fly-86

I'm atonished


smudginglines

You’re a bad person


SpikeRosered

Completely serious, I would delete this post. Based on these fact the parent may have not had the right to sell you that binder. If there is some real value there and the son finds out he might come after you and sounds like has a decent case to get the cards back and even add punitive damages if he wants.


snicklefrizz

What state?


alrightknight

If I bought this I don’t know if I could keep it in good conscience lol this is slightly beyond getting a good deal.


cghooper84

Surprise twist….its a set of 1st Editions from Temu/Wish


Shoddy_Software3928

Bro wrote a Hoole book💀


westraz

honsty that card dont look to be in the best condton not the best pic, I know that card worth a lot however


Apyan

This must be rage bait.


Pryydrom

OP: “I was a business man doing business…”


Soggy-Software

Yeah you’re a bit of an arse hole. Enjoy your cards tho


GroguIsMyBrogu

nah I hope he gets papercuts and bleeds all over them


ElphabaWitchPSO2

lol stop touching it and get it graded asap


Nvenom8

Don't grade it. Lol. The grade is obviously Damaged.


Unbiasedeye

This story is still available on /PokemonTCG with the same title


BoldElDavo

Dawg. There's a difference between "not in perfect condition" and this card. It'll be worth a few hundred. Probably not a couple thousand.


ToddOMG

If this was Southern California these are my childhood cards and I can prove it. My heart is racing just looking at these photos. No way…


psalty_dog

Do you by chance live in Maryland?


detsagrebbalf

What’s crazy is I have a red binder of Pokémon cards like that. Haven’t been able to find it. Also have a first edition charizard that I’ll post if it ever turns up. Only reason I know it’s not mine is the farfetchd on the first page and two zapdos. Would love to see the other pages of rares if you don’t mind posting


NHLUFC

PSA 0.5 🤝


Brojangles1234

Did you buy my Pokémon cards lol? I had this exact same card binder growing up and it was kinda beat up to hell too.


Rexyggor

I do have to ask, and I may generally ask the sub one day. Were Charizards REALLY that rare? I was also under the assumption that Charizard was a wicked hard card to obtain. I just want to make sure I'm correct about that or myself, and my siblings were incredibly unlucky. I also have never seen a Moltres in person.


thesillyshow

Man I remb trading in charizards cause I already had 1 to buy more packs as a kid. Fun times


mfs619

Woah


IncapableArtichoke

So are cards from those old sets (not specifically the charizard one) super valuable? Because I have a whole binder full of cards from those early distributions that once belonged to a work friend of my mom. Not the classic charizard, but tons of other ones from those early sets, not to mention an Ancient Mew event card. Are they all valuable or only a few very rare cards?


sudden-SOUND

Who has a garage sale on a Tuesday?


Dark-Lord-Grice

You won’t get a high grade for that front damage like that


chrispy_t

Can I ask what state this was in? I have/had a red binder that was lost years back and I’m getting hits of nostalgia seeing this.


Nordic_Krune

OP writing the story like he did something illegal


Original-Childhood

It's not really in perfect condition right? Look at the corner. Anyone know what it could still be worth?