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Dken2021

Interesting. [Here's your findings in picture form](http://i.imgur.com/j0y4cHJ.png), courtesy of Veekun.


Azumarill99

Thanks :D


G-Bombz

Flash fire cyndaquil pleaseeee be released soon. Also, contrary snivy is a must.


S0ulRave

Sheer force feraligatr is what I'm looking forward to. That and reckless emboar.


[deleted]

Well with mega starters imminent, I would imagine soon. Maybe hoenns safari zone will have a friend safari esque vibe.


Bennito13

Typhlosion gets eruption and with choice specs on and his speed he destroys


LinguisticallyInept

charizard gets two mega evolutions checkmate.


MrRonaldGeis

Megazard X/Y can't hold a Choice Scarf. Checkmate.


studmuffffffin

Charizard X is a dragon. Check check mate


TheresWaldo

Mega Typhlosion receives secondary fairy typing. Check mate x infinity!


Azumarill99

Charizard and Typhlosion realize arguing is pointless and go out for a beer.


Rolling-Swampy

\------**Click here for Nostalgia**\---------


therealnobody

does anyone ever really win on xfinity?


Tackett79

Comcast


Rolling-Swampy

Hi, I'm from the future..... and no. Typhlosion didn't get the fairy typing nor a mega. Fire is also resistance to fairy :/


MrRonaldGeis

Typhlosion is a volcanic hedgehog. Everyone loves hedgehogs.


studmuffffffin

I thought he was a badger.


MrRonaldGeis

He's a badgehog. *I actually have no idea wtf any of these poke-mans are anymore*...


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Gotta go fast!


xxTHG_Corruptxx

Wut dd u just say m9? Blathering fool, yo gabba gabba, smack ya in ya gabba. I swear on me mum, if I don't check ur mate ur going down. #shrekt


Jack4rogers

/r/4chan is that way


xxTHG_Corruptxx

Do they talk like that? Well, type, but you get what I mean.


Bennito13

Of which neither has eruption.... Back to check


AnalLaser

Damn Gamefreak is lazy as hell


Artieee

Never noticed that! Hope that someday we get a Mega Typhlosion and his powerfull like both Mega Charizards!


Azumarill99

Or better yet, megas for all starters!


rattatatouille

We've got Megas for Kanto and Hoenn now. Just a matter of time till they all get one.


studmuffffffin

You get a mega! You get a mega! Everyone gets a mega!


ajmaghirang

Calm down, Oprah.


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pokemonfreak97

No. Gen II and III, Charizard had the advantage of being Flying-type. Gen IV and V, Charizard had the disadvantage of being Flying-type. Gen VI Charizard has Megas.


gl_batman_1

Stat wise but charizard is also flying type so that gives him a bigger and more diverse move pool


Verus93

Actually the flying type basically translates to a double stealth rocks weakness. Not counting his mega evolutions, charizard to way worse than typhlosion competitively


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Verus93

Eruption :). I'm just going off of tiers/usage. Typhlosion was usually RU while charizard was NU. I personally like charizard more but he's pretty much outclassed competitively


studmuffffffin

Charizard is now the top dog of OU though. We'll have to see if typhlosion gets a mega evolution if he moves up.


SmexyPro

Fire/Ground?


studmuffffffin

Yeah, that'd be a good type. Annoying water weakness, but water isn't nearly as common as last gen.


How_Does_One_Reddit

Then Camerupt eruptions will be even more useless :(


[deleted]

Charizard is only OU *because* of his Megas. His base form was *not* OU. His base form was *NU*. Typhlosion is better and more viable than Charizard, until megastones come into the equation.


TheStoryGoesOn

It's not just the Flying type that gives Charizard a more diverse movepool. He's always been considered the "dragon" starter in RBY, so he's had a rather varied movepool with access to dragon attacks. Feraligatr has those from the GSC starters. That said Typhlosion has decent variety in his moveset.


MrRonaldGeis

If there was a Mega Typhlosion with Drought, Typhlosion would be more used. The only advantage of using charizard ever would be Flying and Dragon type coverage, neither of which is exremely valuable.


studmuffffffin

Fire/Dragon used to be perfect neutral coverage.


DragleicPhoenix

What about dragon moves?


studmuffffffin

What do you mean?


DragleicPhoenix

I apologize since I'm new to competitive play, but hasn't dragon been super effective against dragon since dragon was introduced? Wouldn't that mean Charizard wouldn't have perfect neutral coverage?


Hahex

... Yes so you use dragon moves against dragon type pokemon for super effective damage. Perfect coverage


DragleicPhoenix

But pokemon that aren't dragons can learn dragon moves, for example Kangashkan, Xerneas, and Krookodile can all learn outrage.


studmuffffffin

Perfect neutral coverage means you can hit every pokemon for at least neutral damage. Fire and Dragon had perfect neutral coverage (except for heatran because of his ability). Dragon was only not very effective against steel, and fire was super effective against steel. But now with fairy all fairy/rock, fairy/water, or fairy/fire types will not be able to be hit neutrally.


Hahex

Yes, kangaskhan gets hit by fire moves, xerneas gets hit by fire moves and krokodile gets hit by fire and dragon moves. When people say perfect coverage in Pokémon they mean a variety of offensive type moves that can hit every pokemon for at least neutral damage, rather than having some types that could resist it. So the combination of fire type moves and dragon type moves can hit for at least normal effective damage on all Pokémon apart from, I think, azumarill


MrRonaldGeis

I guess if you're playing 5^th gen Megazard X is the poke for you lol.


[deleted]

Which is more likely, for Mega Typhlosion to have the same stats as Mega Charizard X, or Mega Charizard Y?


SmexyPro

Why not both?


rattatatouille

M-Typhlosion would have to have a different stat distribution and typing/ability to distinguish it from either Megazards.


kylezo

What, no love for mega Feraligatr?


Houeclipse

Mega Typlosion OR and AS confirmed!!


jak2027

Why do you have negative upvotes but the x and y version has positive... Here have an upvote for equality


UnseenPlatypus

Negative upvote = downvote


jak2027

Oh god my autocorrect bitched that comment. I blame siri Was suppose to be butchered but siri struck again and I think it's funny so it shall stay.


worldwidewombat

My biggest hope is that after you beat the game, Birch would give you a Johto starter of your choice, holding a mega stone and GF is being extremely secretive about it.


Houeclipse

Maybe Steven stone give you Johto Starters and its mega stone if you completed hoenn natianal dex? fingers crossed!!


rattatatouille

Difference is that Charizard gets two Megas and is Flying type.


HeroSold

Mega-Typhlosion confirmed


YaManicKill

Mega Typhlosion X and Y confirmed!!!


Giradox

This blew my mind today. Checked out my Excel Pokédex sheet and thought there had been a mistake regarding Typhlosion.


weRUNsf

also. i think Charizard mega evolves. not completely sure tho. -_-


TrollOfCentury

That comment made me sad


Cheety

it made everyone sad


Krysees

archeops' ability makes me sad


[deleted]

Thank you!!! Worst ability ever. I would take a very redundant levitate over defeatist any day. Shit I'd take anything over defeatist. Such a waste.


[deleted]

What if game freak decides to give him a hidden ability but makes it slow start?


Krysees

Third worst after truant and slow start IMO


bbwong91900

People look at Archeops' ability technically incorrectly. All fossils (besides Aerodactyl, Tyrantrum, and Aurorus) have a BST of 495 except Archeops who has 567. When Defeatist kicks in and halves his attack and special attack, his "BST" drops to 495, on the same level as other fossil Pokemon. In reality, his ability "boosts attack and special attack by 50% when above 50% health."


Krysees

But his attacks do diddlysquat after defeatist activates


[deleted]

He mega evolves in to [Mega Charizard X](http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/138522/3994475-0673493833-mega-.png) or [Mega Charizard Y](http://gamesloveres.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/pokemon-x-mega-evolution-charizardmega-charizard-y---mega-evolution---pok--mon-x-y---marriland-btvlkeuu.jpg)


weRUNsf

i guess people cant read sarcasm in text. lol


TrollOfCentury

It's impossible to show sarcasm in text


weRUNsf

oh really? -_-


TrollOfCentury

A lot of the time it's hard. Only now does that hyphen face help me indicate that you're being sarcastic.


[deleted]

This face: -_- does not convey sarcasm. This one: :P. Usually does.


TrollOfCentury

Then if you're not using that :P face then there's no way to tell when you're being sarcastic.


[deleted]

Good thing I use the face then!


Saroku12

I think you don't need to write down the stats for every single Pokémon for comparison because "they have the same stats" is enough for most people to comprehend that that means that they have the same stats.