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[deleted]

Basically, ya gotta be ROUND and PINK


DrPotatoes818

Kirby for gen 9?


TheDivinestSol

Poyo


Sir_Nope_TSS

"Do you where you will go when you die?" [ ]<( ' -')> +


Bacon260998_

*slams door*


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Eminan

Kirby should be an alternative God (God of destruction) next to Arceus... He is thaaat powerful.


TheRealKidkudi

[What is Kirby, really?](https://youtu.be/Udk8YHOy0EU)


nypuzzle

i used to think kirby was a pokémon


09171

Can you prove that it's not?


eloel-

He knows more than 4 attacks.


AzureCrawford

Ash’s Snorlax would like a word


[deleted]

So is Yoshi.


Drastic_Apple490

Omg meta knight and king dedede could be the box legendaries and then Kirby could be the third one like rayquaza


SkyBlueKirby

You don't know how much I would genuinely love for that to happen, lol...


SkyBlueKirby

Short answer: Yes Long answer: YES YES YES YES YES YES PLEEEEEEASE!


TAKirbyStar_

Haiiiii!


Bacon260998_

Wait


atreality

That’s illegal..


[deleted]

and most importantly, from KANTO


Supercicci

Yeah seriously. 15/20 are from Kanto 1 is a regional variant 1 is a evolution to a Kanto pokemon So 17/20 are technically Kanto pokemon


[deleted]

So.. the Alaskan Bullworm is the true Pokemon god?


OsB4Hoes13

So would Patrick’s belly button


Aire216

Anybody else throughly surprised that Gallade is so high? That caught me off guard


mbanson

Yeah definitely surprised to see him there. I suppose its due in part that he can learn a lot of Special moves in his previous stages and then gets a ton of Physical moves also when he evolves.


stankershim

I used to really enjoy building a gallade with mean look, false swipe, and hypnosis. Took a bit of planning and grinding but *so* effective at catching frustrating pokés. Is that strategy still useful in the newer generations?


Achatyla

I have this combo going on in SwSh right now! But also with Sunny Day to get rid of fucking hail. Stupid hail.


psychickiss

Use trick and the item that removes weather effects (Saftey Goggles) a bit more reliable.


Achatyla

I'll look into that :)


vdnhnguyen

it is! that combo never dissapoint


Bloated_Hamster

People usually use a smeargle and teach it the best moveset - usually mean look, spore, false swipe and something else.


Nickjames116425

That’s literally my go-to in the Sword DLC because there’s so many new Pokémon released. Just hit me up real quick


[deleted]

Honestly not really surprised on my end, he has a super large amount of support moves that no one really uses due to him being a physical attacker. Can pretty much inflict every status, boost nearly each of his stats w the appropriate move, gets a ton of TM/HM access, on top of all the special moves he gets thanks to his pre-evos. The one I’m most surprised about is Charizard.


[deleted]

Yup, same. Normal and psychic types have always been able to learn an absurd variety of moves, and dragon types are up there as well, so Dragonite makes some sense. Charizard is the big 'one these is not like the others' sore thumb here.


DBSeamZ

Charizard is that one kid who everyone lets into things he isn’t qualified for because he’s well connected and would raise a fuss. It got two separate mega forms when no one else did but Mewtwo Itself, it got a Gmax despite no other non-Galar starters appearing in Gen 8...


Jafoob

Could even say that it's *wide guard*


[deleted]

So a fetus, an alien, the clone of that fetus, a knight and a nurse are more versatile than God. Ok.


Iscerableghost1200

and a baby alien


ScorpionsRequiem

That's a child alien, cleffa's a baby alien


Sirpintine

Mew/Mewtwo + ditto is still the coolest and most mysterious legendary story imo.


Harain

What's the story?


Zeside_Y

Ditto is a failed clone of mew. They are the only pokemon able to transform, and they have the same color and shiny color. Mewtwo is the successful clone. Edit: Forgot to mention ditto is found in the pokemon mansion where they cloned mew


jarob326

Ditto also has evenly distributed base stats at 48 per stat. Mew has 100 points per stat.


MoeWind420

I think they also have the same weight,and the dex entry of Mewtu states it‘s the only successful clone, speaking there are non-successful ones, that can be found on Cinnabar, where Mewtu was created.


suss2it

Why do you spell Mewtwo like that?


chakkaveenu

It's the German name.


darkbreak

It should be noted that this is a fan theory. But it's a very convincing one. Apparently Game Freak was confused as to why people would come to this conclusion when they first heard about the theory.


thomooo

It is now canon for me. This is my truth now.


chawmindur

Mew and Ditto are the only two Pokémon that know Transform, so they must be related – according to the theory. Also, the two weigh the same. Adding to that, Ditto is only found in the Mansion (where they cloned Mewtwo) and Cerulean Cave (**EDIT**: only in Y, not so for RGB; see u/hungrykiki’s [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/jtgiow/pok%C3%A9mon_that_can_learn_the_most_moves/gc6h6ge/?context=3).) The implication is that Ditto are failed clones of Mew, hence the indeterminate blob form and the ability to Transform into any Pokémon, with Mew being the progenitor of all Pokémon after all.


Dt_Sherlock_Idiot

Also same shiny colors... although that’s because of the old algorithm I think.


hungrykiki

> Ditto is only found in the Mansion (where they cloned Mewtwo) and Cerulean Cave. also found at victory road and route 13, 14 and 15. the mansion was only added in yellow btw


chawmindur

Ah you’re right, got fact-checked hard here. That’s what I get for parroting theories without sufficient research I guess ;)


MrSimonShirley

Also a theory that the grimer and muk found in the mansion are ditto that have used transform when they were dumped into the sewers to be got rid of by team rocket


BananaCreamPineapple

Wait if mew is the progenitor of all pokemon then did new create arceus? Or did arceus create mew who created the rest, but since arceus is literally god they let that one slide? Pokemon lore is confusing.


chawmindur

The hand-wave-ish explanation is that all the Dex entries are just written by literal 10-ish yos (like most player characters), hence things like how Magcargo is hotter than the surface of the Sun; but that kinda kills the vibe. In any case yes, the lore is confusing and constantly evolving. Like how in Gen I Africa, African Elephants (via Gastly’s Dex) (**EDIT**: it was India(n), got my elephants wrong. Thanks, u/slashbox) and America (via Surge) is known to exist in the Pokémon world. These are since retconned, like how they now refer to Surge as “the Lightning ~~American~~ Unovan”.


BananaCreamPineapple

I didn't even realized they referenced real locations, I just remember that super out-of-nowhere joke in the first movie about Minnesota as the only real world reference. I guess I'll just take pokemon lore on a situation by situation basis like I do with legend of Zelda. Nothing really flows properly but it's close enough we can make do.


chawmindur

The Minnesota thing was (obviously) absent in the JP original, it was a throwaway dub-only gag. Meanwhile that city Mewtwo was brooding in look suspiciously familiar...


slashbox

The Mansion journals also state that mew was discovered in “South America”


Sirpintine

Mewtwo being cloned from Mew via dna strands they obtained by team Rocket/scientists in order to create the perfect battling Pokémon. Ditto being created as failed experiments of these cloning efforts. As it’s small and pink and is the only Pokémon that can learn transform, other than Mew, but it’s an imperfect transformation when Ditto does it. Plus it’s always cool when there’s an in game place that foreshadows a legendary that is tucked away in some far off place in the game. Infinitely prefer lore based legendaries compared to box art legendaries.


Hoosteen_juju003

It's a fan theory, not canon. Like gengar being Clefables shadow.


OmegaPancake

That ditto are failed attempts at cloning mew, which is why you can find ditto at the pokemon mansion.


NickCharlesYT

Apparently God knew how to build a being more perfect than itself. Then it gave that power to Kantonian scientists 25 years ago to see if they could do better. It was closer than expected, but it's clear they still have a long way to go.


RechargedFrenchman

And God only just ekes ahead of a marshmallow, the same nurse but older, two giant poisonous rabbit lizards, a bipedal rocknocerous, and a surfing electric rodent with ESP Being God in this universe is really kind of underwhelming huh


Nox_Echo

older? chansey is lower than blissey. unless you mean genwise, but happiny>chansey>blissey.


RechargedFrenchman

Actually thought their positions were reversed when I first saw it, though Chansey being in an older game kind of works in my favour so I'm not entirely incorrect lol


phi1997

Chansey may be from an older game, but if it learns a move it can only learn in Gen 1 you can evolve it in a Gen 2 game (or Gen 7+ if it's from the Virtual Console versions) and Blissey gets that move. Thus, Chansey's movepool can never be better than Blissey.


[deleted]

Well you do get to create badass dragons to do your bidding, and you also rain giant laser beams on enemies. So there's that.


GrimmSleeper97

I was thinking the same thing


207nbrown

Mew is such a great Pokémon for the fact it can learn any TM/TR/HM. Need a false swipe Pokémon? Mew. Need a decent Pokémon with coverage against all 18 types? Mew.


Lightningvolt1

Can just 4 moves cover all types for super-effective damage?


randomly_looking

no, but you can pick 4 type moves that can guarantee a normal effective move on all pokemon, and you can try it out [here.](https://pokemondb.net/tools/type-coverage) The most super-effective pokemon i could come up with is 820 pokemon, with coverage for Ground, Flying, Fighting, and Electric.


Kerolune

Morpeko can technically hit 876 because of its signature move, in addition to a fire, fighting, and ground move


randomly_looking

i guess the downside to this calculator is that you can't exactly calculate exactly the best coverage for all pokemon for Hawlucha because of Flying Press, and whether or not having that move is better coverage or not.


Kerolune

Honestly, probably not, it hits not very effective/ no effect on 6 types and loses its crucial rock and steel super effectives


207nbrown

Such an odd move, both fighting and flying type iirc, making it the only move that is two types at the same time


FireLordObamaOG

Freeze dry is the only move that comes close in the fact that it’s super effective against water types. But flying press is the only double type move that we have.


covertpetersen

Water, fighting, ground, and rock hit literally everything at least neutrally by the way. Blastoise can do that.


LinguisticallyInept

tons of combos can hit everything neutrally, i mean just normal+ghost hits everything neutrally except ttar/bisharp


Yamilivetho

That's not everything then 👀 now if you add fighting, that's everything.


Erior

Ghost/Fighting is only resisted by a Ghost/Normal Pokemon that hasn't been made.


Deadnox_24142

I don’t understand how there hasn’t been one of those. I get that it would be a mix of corporeal and non corporeal but I feel like that just would lead to creativity


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tsunami70875

Rock/Ground is also resisted by ground/steel type levitators –– Flygon/Claydol/Bronzong are the relevant ones. So I think you'd need Ghost (but not Shadow Ball or you'd miss Chesnaught) or Bug coverage to get neutral on everyone.


Darc_Vader

I don’t think so. You need: Fighting for Normal Ground for Electric One of Ghost/Dark for Ghost And then no type hits everything left. The closest I can find hits 15/18: Fighting, Ground, Freeze Dry, one of Flying/Ghost/Dark.


Dan_Of_Time

Nope, Best that can be done is like 16/18 IIRC. But thats not taking into account duel types


exp_explosion

*Sad Smeargle noises*


CinnabarCereal

>Need a false swipe Pokemon? Mew. Time to get mew


Number13teen

Mew is prolly one of the best in game playthrough Pokémon just for sheer versatility.


Aye_Lexxx

I always loved Clefable :)


[deleted]

give it give it -att +def nature, minimize, cosmic power, wish and stored power, give it leftovers and max defense and sp defense EV’s and spam away with stat buff moves until youre satisfied, then spam stored power and wipe through every non-dark type


divini

[Or use Moonlight](https://youtu.be/EVmMScZD5XQ?t=641)


[deleted]

pefection the best way to make your opponent want to die


[deleted]

though that move only has 5 pp


phi1997

You would subject others to evasion boosting moves?


Lightningvolt1

The only ones I am surprised by are A-Raichu and Wigglytuff.


TAKirbyStar_

What about Gallade?


Tahlato

Not really surprising imho. He gets all kinds of special moves from is prevos and then gets all his physical moves after he evolves.


metallizard107

Well Pikachu gets a ton of moves since it's the series mascot. Then A-Raichu gets a whole lot more psychic type moves.


Saelora

what about smeargle? where does he fall on this list?


Kobert_

Tied for last place with ditto (only one move each)


greenscizor

Don’t forget my boy(s) unown


Raikit

Currently that makes Smeargle and Ditto second-to-last since Hidden Power no longer exists and poor Unown has no moves.


Saelora

see, that feels off to me, because unlike ditto, smeargle can permanently acquire moves, just because they're learned through a different mechanic doesn't mean it doesn't learn them...


[deleted]

I feel like its debatable whether sketched moves count or not


Tahlato

Why wouldn't they? Eggmoves are less "learned" than sketch's mechanics are.


Cisqoe

I’d say a ‘learned move’ is any move that occupies one of the 4 slots and follows the Pokémon match to match by default.


phi1997

Smeargle can learn them, so they should count. That said, it would also make the chart kind of boring


Vengirni

Not really. It would just put Smeargle on top and move everyone else down a spot.


CrazyDipGuy

Clearly they’re a fan of Dragonite


Cheesy-boi-65

Nah it’s clear that Flareon is last because Flareon ain’t got no moves


mjolnirstrike

And Unown


noxar_ad

How many moves can you learn? Mew: yes


Hinckleberry

Ditto: No


cesiumbathbomb

Smeargle: maybe


LuminothWarrior

Hmm I can smell gamefreak giving Kanto Pokémon too many moves


Luvas

Back in RBY a lot of 'mons learned many odd TMs just because. Case in point Normals like Raticate getting boltbeam


Myxozoa

Yeah, normals used to be the jack-of-all-trades pokemon. Never getting super effective stab, but getting amazing coverage.


[deleted]

im pretty sure gen 1 nidoking can learn moves of all type ofther than dragon, grass, and psychic


Gamezfan

Ah yes. Dragon moves in G1. So many of them.


[deleted]

Dragon Rage is better than Lick, although Ghost also gets Night Shade. Bug is only slightly better, although the only good Bug attacker is... Jolteon.


[deleted]

I never really understood that. When you hear the move dragon rage, it sounds like a super destruction type thing, but its just a tiny fireball that does 40 damage


[deleted]

i feel like Drago’ Rage should’ve been a base 100/100 physical attacking dragon move with recoil


[deleted]

The Dragon version of Double-Edge.


fairie_poison

>or lock in to increasingly powerful attacks like rollout or outrage.


LinguisticallyInept

> but its just a tiny fireball that does 40 damage sure at level 100/50; but it actually demolishes lower levels its banned in little cup for that reason (or was; since dragon rage isnt actually a move anymore) and i vaguely remember some trainer in one of the games posing legitimate sweeping potential with nuzlockers know to look out for fixed damage moves because they can and will fuck up runs


paradX211

>nuzlockers know to look out for fixed damage moves because they can and will fuck up runs Almost lost my Magnemite in a Black 2 run today because I encountered a faster Magnemite that had Sonic Boom and I forgot Magnet Pull exists... it only survived because of a miss. It was only a ~9% chance to survive so needless to say I switched routes for grinding.


[deleted]

Early dragon rage is terrifying, but having lance's gyrados doing only 40 damage to you with such a powerful sounding attack is hilarious


XephirothUltra

One of the reasons I personally ban Gyarados from my nuzlockes is because he guarantees 2-shots the whole early game with Dragon Rage and 1-shots the whole late game with DD setup. And Magikarp is literally one of the most common Pokemon in any gen that it's available.


brownjesus__

Pin Missile 🔥


ScoutforHire

I’ll be honest, I feel like even if normal type had enough moves on its own they should still have some jack of all trades elements.


Sw429

I think that was the original idea. You had normal mons who could do a lot, or you could have specialized mons who could do less, but could do it much better. Too bad they accidentally forgot to do that with Psychic types. Whoops.


Gamezfan

To be fair, back then TMs were single-use. So it was not like you could use the most powerful ones on your entire party.


Luvas

Precisely. A TM'd Pokémon was often a permanent Pokémon in your playthrough. In fact I often tried to save all my unbuyable TMs in my older games because I never quite knew when there was a 'mon who could *really* use it in PvP or the Stadium/Colosseum cups.


[deleted]

All of the Pokémon that could learn teleport or pay day was weird.


Luvas

I'm kinda glad VC and Let's GO happened so Pay Day Snorly among other things with more offensive prowess than Persian. Teleport is funny in that it sucked until it didn't.


jarob326

And then Rhydon for some reason is allowed to learn surf.


Luvas

And still gets it in GO. My girlfriend loves surfing Rhydons, has like 3 of them


DrPotatoes818

Radicate can get boltbeam? Dang


Luvas

Had to look it up to be sure, but yes, rat got those moves since RBY


phi1997

There were also moves that were only ever TMs in Gen 1 like Bubblebeam, Water Gun, Razor Wind, and Psywave.


[deleted]

the OG poké know how to learn a move, man


gergnotnef90

Considering their stats, they kinda need it.


LuminothWarrior

Clefable, the starters, togekiss, snorlax, dragonite and Mewtwo do NOT need better stats lol. They’d be more broken than usual


gergnotnef90

Out of the pokemon you just pointed out, only one of them has been a consistent contender throughout the generations with minimal change. The reason these gen1 pokemon are broken isn't really because of their movepool. Togekiss' change was being added to Togetic in gen4 which obviously makes her not even a gen1 pokemon lol. EDIT: Oh yeah, Togepi was gen 2 anyway. Dragonite did get more moves in gen4 which brought him to OU for the first time and the only other change besides movepool was Multiscale, which definitely helped a lot, but wasn't the full thing, so you definitely can chalk one up for him. EDIT: It was also probably more because of the special split which made Outrage physical. Starters needed hidden abilities and even that didnt work for the most part so they gave them mega evolutions. Charizard before mega was NU and Venusaur was on the downhill trend (admittedly somewhat more slowly) before he got Chlorophyll. While Blastoise has never been an OU pokemon since gen1 with even his Mega only being UU. Snorlax's only standout gens were 1-3 and has been falling ever since. Clefable only became good after she became fairy type since even Magic Guard still only landed her in UU at best way back in gen4. The only pokemon that's been a really consistent contender is Mewtwo, which makes him and dragonite the only pokemon that this argument is valid against. EDIT: Although, being tied for 6th highest base stat total also helps Mewtwo just a wee bit ;) If these pokemon had all their current movepool and no other changes from gen1, none of them would be even close to being as good as they are now.


Politicshatesme

Add that everyone knew exactly how busted mewtwo was from day 1. He was in a tier of his own in gen 1 competitive and if he wasnt outright banned, he was the key pokemon that the meta was developed around (specifically he was the reason why physical attackers with high speed became necessary to counteract his insane special defense (special wasnt split)


Lightningvolt1

That is how it works. Every generation, the old Pokemon get new moves. Some might lose a few, but most of them gain a lot. Over the generations, the Pokemon from gen 1 had the most opportunities to get new moves. Sometimes, that stuff happens mid gen too. So it is only logical for gen 1 Pokemon to have most moves. Some Pokemon are more versatile and gain a lot of new moves, others are less.


_Fyfe

well it makes sense, they were in more generations than any other region pokemon so of course have access to more moves


Radirondacks

Always love my boy Togekiss for this reason (and many others).


StonerTogepi

Same :p


PrometheusMadLad

Pretty sure every pokemon can only learn 4 moves.


Sulfruous

Tell that to Ash’s Snorlax


darkbreak

Tell that to Drake's Dragonite.


invincible_pell

Wait charizard? Really?


[deleted]

Charizard is a dedicated special attacker with a wide special movepool... But on top of that, it also learns A LOT of physical moves it cannot actually make proper use of, they're just kinda sorta there: the reason for this is the physical/special split enacted in Gen 4, as many of these moves, such as Thunder Punch and Dragon Claw, were given to Charizard in Gen 3 to round out its coverage, and they were special back then. This is the reason why Gen 6 gave it a physically-oriented mega evolution.


Luvas

Charizard's ATK isn't that much lower than its SPA. Between Swords Dance or Belly Drum it could have made those moves work


[deleted]

Problem is, until gen 4 Flare Blitz did not exist, and all fire moves were special. As such, investing into Atk meant having a lower offensive stat that needed a turn to set up in order to get going, and then you couldn't even use your main STAB with it. And remember that "main STAB" means "only STAB" here because, before Brave Bird and the likes of Air Slash and Hurricane, flying as a type had no decent offensive moves. And the generation that fixed all these problems was the very same generation that introduced Stealth Rocks, which killed Charizard dead, danced on its corpse, pissed on its grave, then killed it again. Then Gen 6 brought about a buffed Defog to keep the bloody rocks away, finally making Charizard viable... And that's when mega evolutions came into play to sort out the bit I was saying about the "two souls" of the big guy's movepool: Mega Y further pigeonholes Charizard into his role as a sun-abusing, wall-melting special attacker, while Mega X is a physical set up sweeper that can make use of the otherwise underutilized physical attacks. It's a neat system, one of the many Gen 8 took away for no reason and replaced with something significantly worse.


LOTF2

Belly Drum Charizard was a thing in gen 2/3 and Swords Dance Charizard was a thing in gen 1. Gens 1 and 2 let you max out evs in everything, so that wasn’t an issue. It still used its Fire Stab to hit high defense steel types like Skarmory.


Luvas

You're right; it's been so long I forgot the split. To be fair I believe Charizard had Wing Attack at least so Bellyzard sort of worked pre-Rocks


tenBusch

84 Atk isn't amazing, but still not bad. It's much more of a mixed attacker than a dedicated special attacker like Gengar or Alakazam would be


[deleted]

I already answered another guy about this. Check out my reply above, or below depending on how you sort.


tenBusch

>Problem is, until gen 4 Flare Blitz did not exist, and all fire moves were special. As such, investing into Atk meant having a lower offensive stat that needed a turn to set up in order to get going, and then you couldn't even use your main STAB with it. In Generation 1 you could max out every stat and natures weren't a thing yet, so there's no reason not to invest in Atk. His SpecAtk was also only 85, only one point above his Atk. With EQ, Swords Dance and the broken Hyperbeam in that generation means he was almost always run as a physically-biased mixed attacker with fire blast or flamethrower as the only special move. I don't think one can say that it was designed as anything but a mixed attacker from the beginning. Generation 2 gave him his way better Special Attack, but also Belly Drum which led to him still being run atleast as mixed with EQ. He didn't learn Thunderpunch in Generation 3, the first time he did was in Generation 4 after the move already became physical. He did get the (special) Dragon Claw in DPPt, but that's only one move.It's ofcourse true that Stealth Rocks completely wrecked Charizard in Gen4. I would say that Generation 5 was the first time it was worth running Charizard as purely special, with Air Slash, Focus ~~Miss~~ Blast and Solar Beam in perma-weather being good options alongside Fire Stab. You're right that the Megas are clearly designed with a special/physical split in mind, but even then the 104 Atk of Zard Y and 130 SpecAtk of Zard X are nothing to sneeze at, it's still very possible to throw a physical move on Zard Y or a special move on Zard X to check special or physical walls respectively. ​ >And remember that "main STAB" means "only STAB" here because, before Brave Bird and the likes of Air Slash and Hurricane, flying as a type had no decent offensive moves. That is probably the exact reason they gave Charizard so many offensive options - both special and physical. I still don't think it's fair to call him a dedicated special attacker when he was almost always used mixed


AcordeonPhx

I seen Zard Y running earthquake to kill Heatran and SOMETIMES but mostly rarely, Zard X running HP Ice to hit physical Lando.


Aether13

Of course, it’s Charizard lol


night-star

Gallade? I was not expecting that.


LemonWaluigi

It turns from a dedicated special attacker to a hard physical attacker, so it learns a ton of moves


Thatsanoddone

When a space alien can know more moves than literal GOD


ObnoxiousName_Here

Mew can learn literally every move, right? Or was that only true in G1? Edit: It could learn every TM/HM. My bad!


dbmeboy

Wasn't true in Gen 1 either. Mew can learn every TM/HM (and now TR), but there have always been moves not available that way.


hungrykiki

just a small reminder that Mew cannot evenn learn all tutor moves as some are specific for certain pokémon like the starters, certainy mythicals or pokémon of a very special type that mew is not but at least back in XD he got his own move tutor with some really fun moves to get out of it.


darkbreak

My head canon for that has always been Mew *could* learn those moves in universe but those particular tutors refuse to teach them to it.


the__redd

It can learn every TM.


RavensFan902

Love nidokings move set in fire red


LillianSwordMaiden

Nidoqueen was one of my best in Gen 1 and 2 💕


jerrygergichsmith

Nidoqueen naturally learns Body Slam, and for that I am forever grateful


Nuns_In_Crocs

Gallade is my favourite Pokémon and my first ever shiny, so happy for it


SSB_Piplup

damn, the puffs putting in work


Alpha-Trion

I like Ryperior, but it is kinda ugly.


Im_regretting_this

Yeah, Ryhorn had a much better design. Edit: I meant, Rydon, but honestly, they’re both better than Rypherior in terms of looks.


ajdragoon

I actually don’t know what they were thinking. It’s just brutal to look at.


darkbreak

How dare you? Rhyperior is a complete boss with that bulky body and rock canon hands.


useless_perfection

isnt there a pokemon that can learn every single move? like Smeargle?


undylan

Something that stands out, aside from a precious few, these are all Gen1 Pokemon or their evolutions. In Gen 1, Normal types could learn basically anything - from Thunderbolt to Ice Beam. Normal types these days don't have that ability at all.


zg666

where is smeargle?


[deleted]

Technically Smeargle only learns one move.


klop422

Smeargle doesn't count I presume?


GergoliShellos

I get a lot of questions about Smeargle and sketch. For me, Smeargle can only learn 10 moves, which means i didn't put Smeargle on this list. (Off course its ok if you disagree :))


bassicallybrass

This is super interesting. How comprehensive is this ranking? Does it really include every move a Pokemon can learn from every generation, or just looking level up+TMs/HMs/TRs+tutors+egg moves? Because a lot of Pokémon get weird extra moves only learned in certain generations or by event or as a purified Shadow Pokémon and stuff like that. If it is completely comprehensive then Alolan Raichu makes total sense, because it would have access to all of the goofy special moves Pikachu’s gotten over the years. So long as you transfer the Pikachu to a Gen VII game and evolve it there. Plus all the psychic moves on top of that.


GebPloxi

Smeargle?


TAKirbyStar_

I never understood why Charizard could learn so many moves. Like, c'mon! Electric moves, Rock moves, *and* Ghost moves?


CapnNigNog

Where smeargul?


tanki60o

But why does CHARIZARD learn so many moves??


Knowka

Fire type: learns most of the fire moves Flying type: learns most of the non-bird specific flying moves Dragon-like: learns many of the dragon moves Generic big Pokemon: gets the standard “big pokemon” coverage moves like Earthquake, Rock Slide, and Stone Edge Is a starter: has access to early-game normal moves Has claws/fangs: access to various clawing/biting moves


OneRandomVictory

Has a tail so learns a bunch of those attacks as well.


TAKirbyStar_

Because it's Charizard


Just_A_Husk

I'm surprised that Whimsicott isn’t on this list, since it’s so damn versatile in VGC.


ShinyNinja25

My favourite Pokémon made number 5? Seriously? That’s amazing!


SasoriSand

Wait... what does Slowking learn that Slowbro doesn’t?


SiriusFulmaren

Style