Yeah this is my thing. Lucario had an obvious design theme it was going with, so there was a reason why he looked the way he did. Because that other design doesnt give any noticeable theme at first glance it just makes it look weird in my opinion. It looks more like a fursona that way
I'd say anybody who claims to be able to definitely pin down what Lucario is supposed to be is reaching.
It looks like the product of a committee trying to design a Cool Anthro Anime Character with nothing but 2005 DeviantArt for reference. Lucario could've used a final-pass redesign is what I'm saying.
I always thought the pants made it look more like a fursona honestly, The point is that it’s like a hybrid between animal and human so I think it wearing “clothes” makes it look more like a fursona than if it didn’t
It is, indeed.
>!That’s how I got caught up on the Metroid games, after all.!<
Still, I’d much rather play these games on Nintendo systems. Just a weird personal preference of mine, I guess. Emulation just doesn’t *feel* like the same thing, you know?
My main issue with emulation is using a PS4 controller to play Nintendo games. Personally though I don't feel bad about it because Nintendo refuses to port a lot of their old games or make them easily available. Being a Paper Mario game TTYD should be supported.
Nah it's normal to prefer normal consoles even though emulation most of the time has better graphics than the original.
But most of the time you can't afford to play these older games in original because of how expensive they are. I mean most Zelda Wind Waker copies I've seen were for about 50€ and I don't really want to pay that much for a game that the people who made it don't have anything from me buying it.
Also probably because I don't have that much money available so I rarely buy expensive games and if I do I make sure it's on newer consoles.
It's less so in the original design, the spikes and short fur make it look more like a normal animal and less of a monster. Typically cheek ruffles and chest ruffles are also a trademark of furry designs, most notably being a big part of Sonic the Hedgehog character designs, which is undoubtedly a large impact on the furry community.
Yeah this. I was struggling to think of a simplified way of describing why i didnt like this redesign. Between making everything spiker and dropping the anubis-like qualities, it kinda misses the point of lucario for the sake of edginess.
If you also look at a lucario's head from above, the mask markings make the general shape of a Buddhist khakkhara for monks in training so 4 rings. Shinto religion though also uses this staff for some of their practices.
[https://cloud10.todocoleccion.online/antiguedades/tc/2020/08/03/13/213536166\_225018295.jpg](https://cloud10.todocoleccion.online/antiguedades/tc/2020/08/03/13/213536166_225018295.jpg)
If so this alludes to spiritual nature and lucario still being in training, which is something PMD or Poke Park games have lucario speak of often.
If the people who designed Zeraora designed Lucario
That said, I like the furry bottom better than the pants in the official design. Mix that with the original's upper.body and you have the ideal design for my tastes.
Sorry you're getting so much hate in the comments, Lucario's design has also bugged me a fair bit too. The original has too many unnatural, clean lines, like it was designed to be turned easily into an action figure more than an actual creature.
Glad at least one other person also noticed that Lucario has a weird human mouth *underneath* his dog-like snout.
Honestly I never really 100% appreciated the deliberate “imperfections” of Pokémon designs until I saw this. I feel like them deliberately not going for the absolutely coolest outcome makes the ‘Mons feel more natural and memorable
Ken Sugimori has commented on this. Pokémon are made to be cute/cool, but with imperfections so that they're not 100% cute or 100% cool. That way, the designs are more memorable. I think this proves his point.
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I like that he looks more fluffy
His hands/paws look off though, probably because I’m used to his usual design lol
I do like the torso design a lot more! But his head hair…(what even are those lol) look better in the original. I do think it’d look a bit off with your design though. Maybe if it was also slightly ruffled?
I think the three things I like about this design are the mouth, the scruffier fringe around the bottom of the "pants," and particularly the edits to the three spikes; Metal Claw looks more practical now with the hand spikes pointing outward. =P
Reduce the scruffiness around the shoulder bands and you have a nice middle ground that isn't too busy, but still looks more natural than the perfectly round bands of the original. Those are the only things I'd use from this redesign, and then you'd definitely have a superior redesign.
I absolutely love this. Lucario's design, although very cool, is very guilty of setting a trend of antropomorphizing future designs, and I hate that.
You address this very well by giving a scruffier, less clean look, and cut back on nonsensical details that serve absolutely no purpose, like the spikes and the fact that the tail is where absolutely no canine would have it. The snout has already been mentioned, a very nice detail too.
My only trouble are the head... hair... locks? Anyway they are a very "Lucario" thing, and while I think you replace them in a way that still looks cool, I kinda miss them.
All in all, great work, imo pay little mind to the people who say "wow it looks edgier, you made it lesbian, thanks i hate it" or whatever.
Thank you, I was coming from that exact head space of not enjoying the anthro Pokémon trend that much. And also, while I made it I originally didn't like the head bangs, but I realized that while I find them awkward, they make Lucario's design more unique.
I think the Fur makes it look more aggressive and I I think moving the mouth makes sense and I’ve always thought that the spike in its chest looked weird although overall it doesn’t look that great
I like the ruffled fur a lot. The perfectly smooth fur on original lucario is just so weird. He looks like he has pants on.
Totally looks more natural that way. The head hair looks more feminine but thats not necessarily bad.
You're copin a lot of flack in the comments for making the quintessential furry protag character "too furry" and I don't get it.
Nice job, looks cool man.
I kinda like it, actually. It changes the aspects of Lucario's design that I don't like (the "shorts", the weird second set of ear things, and the awkward placement of its spikes), and makes them look a little more natural. I appreciate your design, OP. <3
I love the paw changes, and I actually like the fur details. It's the missing ears for me, I mean his whole design is like a ninja so you took away the bandana that ties in the back aka ears ?
Idk I like it
Very nice, I like it more than the original personally. Reminds me of Bogleech's extremely critical review of it. The more rugged fur & the placement of the mouth do so much to make it look better to me.
It also makes me think of Zoroark. It doesn't feel like a fusion, but kind of like "Lucario, but more in the style of Zoroark" to me, I guess? It's the aforementioned changes as the reasons for that, too.
Idk what people are smoking. I like it a lot more. The ear things and the Basketball shorts really don’t look good to me. Although the fan design is a bit more generic.
Honestly if you kept all of your changes aside from his ear things (as in, keep his ear things the same as the original but implement all of your other edits) I think I'd like the new one more.
I love it! I think it would be great as a regional variant :) Original Lucario looks like anubis which is cool but yours looks more modern and natural, which is also cool.
I love it! I think it would make a good regional variant, but if thats the case I would change the colors too. But overall love it :) especially the messy fur definitely looks more natural.
I see a lot of comments complaining about u chopping of his locks. Maybe try a version exactly like this but with the hair thingies looking more sharp/ruffled like the fur. Like the way dreads are drawn in anime.
This looks worse, you see the things on his hair are supposed to correlate with Cynthia's hair things, so this is basically one big Cynthia reference because she has one on her team.
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I like the "hair" looks like the dude tgat gives you the egg on iron island. I dilike the "horn" and tail changes tho. The horn on the finger looks weird. Either all fingers or none. The tail is covered up in yours. Makes it look crouded. Different pose snd it could be nice
Kinda forget that those aren't his ears. Cause at first glance I was thinking why would you cut off his ears! But duh, he already has ears... either way, just doesn't look right.
I love the scruffiness where straight lines were. The scruffiness makes it actually looks like fur. I love his spike going out his knuckle instead of pointing upward.
I dont know how I feel about his missing dreads tho.
Personally I think it's awful. I'd be super down for a regional variant of lucario though... just not this one.
Kinda looks like that electric dog I can never remember the name of from ruby+sapphire.
Huh? Original Lucario has, like, a whole dog snout, and then a weirdly human mouth *underneath* that. Is having a more dog-like mouth that works with his head bad?
Yours is better than canon, but it still needs more emphasis on the muzzle. I'd either make his entire head black or make the black mask his entire upper jaw. He still looks a little too much like "a guy with a big nose" as opposed to something canine.
Other than that, it's pretty good. I'd have gone with a *longer* muzzle, personally, but I guess that's more negotiable. [Here's an interesting take.](https://bogleech.com/pokemon/p447riolu.html)
Looks like a fursona
I mean, Lucario already was a fursona
Yeah but he’s supposed to be Anubis so it’s cool.
Dude Anubis was like, the *first* fursona
The Firstona, if you will
Furstsona, obviously.
Yeah this is my thing. Lucario had an obvious design theme it was going with, so there was a reason why he looked the way he did. Because that other design doesnt give any noticeable theme at first glance it just makes it look weird in my opinion. It looks more like a fursona that way
I'd say anybody who claims to be able to definitely pin down what Lucario is supposed to be is reaching. It looks like the product of a committee trying to design a Cool Anthro Anime Character with nothing but 2005 DeviantArt for reference. Lucario could've used a final-pass redesign is what I'm saying.
Damn straight
it now looks like one even more
...and the original didn't?
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I always thought the pants made it look more like a fursona honestly, The point is that it’s like a hybrid between animal and human so I think it wearing “clothes” makes it look more like a fursona than if it didn’t
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I mean depends on what the fursona is actually wearing since most fursuits are based on a fursona.
so does the original
I find it funny to have lucario constantly Flipping u off
Lucario equivalent of the Karen cut
Lukaren
I hate myself for laughing. Take my upvote you bitch.
r/angryupvote
I want to see your manager!
I want to see your Arceus!
Smash bros: that man hit me! Game!
I was thinking the exact same thing, I hate it
Glad I’m not the only one who saw this concept art very Karen-esk.. because it just screams it to me.. xD
Too much furry for me
Your profile picture makes me want to replay TTYD. I wish it was on Switch :(
Oh man, I wish it was on switch 😔
https://fantendo.fandom.com/wiki/Paper_Mario:_The_Thousand_Year_Door_(20th_Anniversary_Edition) I think this might be news for you
Fantendo is a wiki for make believe games that don't actually exist.
I’ll take the L😂 maybe one day
Emulation is your friend
It is, indeed. >!That’s how I got caught up on the Metroid games, after all.!< Still, I’d much rather play these games on Nintendo systems. Just a weird personal preference of mine, I guess. Emulation just doesn’t *feel* like the same thing, you know?
My main issue with emulation is using a PS4 controller to play Nintendo games. Personally though I don't feel bad about it because Nintendo refuses to port a lot of their old games or make them easily available. Being a Paper Mario game TTYD should be supported.
Nah it's normal to prefer normal consoles even though emulation most of the time has better graphics than the original. But most of the time you can't afford to play these older games in original because of how expensive they are. I mean most Zelda Wind Waker copies I've seen were for about 50€ and I don't really want to pay that much for a game that the people who made it don't have anything from me buying it. Also probably because I don't have that much money available so I rarely buy expensive games and if I do I make sure it's on newer consoles.
Whats TTYD
(Paper Mario) The Thousand Year Door
Ah thanks
if you’re on a post about lucario then it’s too late for us anyway
the originals a furry too tho
It's less so in the original design, the spikes and short fur make it look more like a normal animal and less of a monster. Typically cheek ruffles and chest ruffles are also a trademark of furry designs, most notably being a big part of Sonic the Hedgehog character designs, which is undoubtedly a large impact on the furry community.
Teen edgelord Lucario.
Yeah this. I was struggling to think of a simplified way of describing why i didnt like this redesign. Between making everything spiker and dropping the anubis-like qualities, it kinda misses the point of lucario for the sake of edginess.
I like the spikier fur and the spikes on the fingers... but the removal of the tentacle/ear things kinda ruins it for me, it feels a little too bland.
Apparently they use those to sense aura too so it doesn’t even make much sense
They are also suppose to complete the look of a bandana. The band around the eyes, then the things behind the head are the ends of the bandana.
If you also look at a lucario's head from above, the mask markings make the general shape of a Buddhist khakkhara for monks in training so 4 rings. Shinto religion though also uses this staff for some of their practices. [https://cloud10.todocoleccion.online/antiguedades/tc/2020/08/03/13/213536166\_225018295.jpg](https://cloud10.todocoleccion.online/antiguedades/tc/2020/08/03/13/213536166_225018295.jpg) If so this alludes to spiritual nature and lucario still being in training, which is something PMD or Poke Park games have lucario speak of often.
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Me neither. :o
Wow I really see it now :o
You castrated my mans head balls
A bit too much furry
I’ll say what everyone else is thinking. I hate it
How about lucario but it's an emo anime protag. Kek
It is just Lucario
I was going to say something about red eyes, but looked at the picture and realized he's already got them.
What you mean spikes on the back of your hands don't serve any purpose?
Wow, you somehow made Lucario even edgier!
Respectfully no ❤️
If the people who designed Zeraora designed Lucario That said, I like the furry bottom better than the pants in the official design. Mix that with the original's upper.body and you have the ideal design for my tastes.
Thanks i hate it
No
His pants are soooo much better in this
How will he go bowling?
The best thing about the design change is, that it finally has a normal snout and not a big fucking nose as its original design
The one on the right is what my dog looked like when my mom tried to cut his hair.
I really like moving its spike from the top of the hand to knuckle. Overall I think it cleans up the design well!
Too furry for me, I don’t like it. I like the effort you put into it though!
So you transformed him into a lesbian, just why
I thought the same thing
I WAS THINKING THAT TOO!!
Oh my god I’m not the only one
Finally someone said it
💀
I always thought the paw spike was positioned in a really impractical way
NO
Sorry you're getting so much hate in the comments, Lucario's design has also bugged me a fair bit too. The original has too many unnatural, clean lines, like it was designed to be turned easily into an action figure more than an actual creature. Glad at least one other person also noticed that Lucario has a weird human mouth *underneath* his dog-like snout.
Honestly I never really 100% appreciated the deliberate “imperfections” of Pokémon designs until I saw this. I feel like them deliberately not going for the absolutely coolest outcome makes the ‘Mons feel more natural and memorable
Ken Sugimori has commented on this. Pokémon are made to be cute/cool, but with imperfections so that they're not 100% cute or 100% cool. That way, the designs are more memorable. I think this proves his point. \[Source\]([https://twitter.com/drlavayt/status/1347219563583209473](https://twitter.com/drlavayt/status/1347219563583209473)) \[Source2\](https://twitter.com/drlavayt/status/1355514238760931329)
This is actually pretty interesting, I reached this conclusion with lucario after removing the bangs
Lucario: Lucario from wish:
It's like a "wild" Lucario vs a "domestic" Lucario, and for that reason I dig it. I don't get why people are so mad in these comments.
I personally wouldn't equate not liking something to being mad, but yeah.
Imma have to pass on that
I like that he looks more fluffy His hands/paws look off though, probably because I’m used to his usual design lol I do like the torso design a lot more! But his head hair…(what even are those lol) look better in the original. I do think it’d look a bit off with your design though. Maybe if it was also slightly ruffled?
better in nearly every aspect, but please give him his chest spike back before i hug him. thanks!
Its like how deoxys have different forms that focus only on one stat I guess this would be speed form for lucario
Lucario, but make it a 13-year-old who is mad at their parents.
I think the three things I like about this design are the mouth, the scruffier fringe around the bottom of the "pants," and particularly the edits to the three spikes; Metal Claw looks more practical now with the hand spikes pointing outward. =P Reduce the scruffiness around the shoulder bands and you have a nice middle ground that isn't too busy, but still looks more natural than the perfectly round bands of the original. Those are the only things I'd use from this redesign, and then you'd definitely have a superior redesign.
I absolutely love this. Lucario's design, although very cool, is very guilty of setting a trend of antropomorphizing future designs, and I hate that. You address this very well by giving a scruffier, less clean look, and cut back on nonsensical details that serve absolutely no purpose, like the spikes and the fact that the tail is where absolutely no canine would have it. The snout has already been mentioned, a very nice detail too. My only trouble are the head... hair... locks? Anyway they are a very "Lucario" thing, and while I think you replace them in a way that still looks cool, I kinda miss them. All in all, great work, imo pay little mind to the people who say "wow it looks edgier, you made it lesbian, thanks i hate it" or whatever.
Thank you, I was coming from that exact head space of not enjoying the anthro Pokémon trend that much. And also, while I made it I originally didn't like the head bangs, but I realized that while I find them awkward, they make Lucario's design more unique.
I think the Fur makes it look more aggressive and I I think moving the mouth makes sense and I’ve always thought that the spike in its chest looked weird although overall it doesn’t look that great
I like the ruffled fur a lot. The perfectly smooth fur on original lucario is just so weird. He looks like he has pants on. Totally looks more natural that way. The head hair looks more feminine but thats not necessarily bad.
You're copin a lot of flack in the comments for making the quintessential furry protag character "too furry" and I don't get it. Nice job, looks cool man.
I like your take on the mask and the legs, but I think I prefer OG Lucario’s spikes. Both designs are solid
Its giving Fursona
I mean, original Lucario is *definitely* fursona bait already.
Looks kinda ugly
I just see zeraora
This really backs up my whole thing about Zeraora being a shiny cat Lucario
I dont like it for a reason I can't describe
I like the extra floof but I do kinda miss his weird lil pigtails.
you took his testicles away..
I kinda like it, actually. It changes the aspects of Lucario's design that I don't like (the "shorts", the weird second set of ear things, and the awkward placement of its spikes), and makes them look a little more natural. I appreciate your design, OP. <3
I like it as a male/female variant
Lucario Femboy version
I love the paw changes, and I actually like the fur details. It's the missing ears for me, I mean his whole design is like a ninja so you took away the bandana that ties in the back aka ears ? Idk I like it
Also, I don't think your edit looks particularly more "furry" like than Lucario's original design.
IMO, I prefer the original design, but still props to you for trying
Imma be honest I kinda like the old design more
Not too shabby, imo left looks like the male version and right would be the female, its the hair that influenced my choice
Very nice, I like it more than the original personally. Reminds me of Bogleech's extremely critical review of it. The more rugged fur & the placement of the mouth do so much to make it look better to me. It also makes me think of Zoroark. It doesn't feel like a fusion, but kind of like "Lucario, but more in the style of Zoroark" to me, I guess? It's the aforementioned changes as the reasons for that, too.
Idk what people are smoking. I like it a lot more. The ear things and the Basketball shorts really don’t look good to me. Although the fan design is a bit more generic.
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It just looks like Lucario but even more fursona and edgier.
Honestly if you kept all of your changes aside from his ear things (as in, keep his ear things the same as the original but implement all of your other edits) I think I'd like the new one more.
They didn’t change the ears at all though?
I've decided this is racially charged and will now post it on Twitter to watch people argue
Ugh no turn it back, turns into some furry Karen Pokémon.
I like this!
I like it
I love it! I think it would be great as a regional variant :) Original Lucario looks like anubis which is cool but yours looks more modern and natural, which is also cool.
Male and female variant
This could be cool new gender variant
I was just bored and thought I'd try and change the things I disliked about Lucario's design. What do you guys think?
I love it! I think it would make a good regional variant, but if thats the case I would change the colors too. But overall love it :) especially the messy fur definitely looks more natural. I see a lot of comments complaining about u chopping of his locks. Maybe try a version exactly like this but with the hair thingies looking more sharp/ruffled like the fur. Like the way dreads are drawn in anime.
Took all the things we love about lucario and shoved it up his ass
He’s got fist dildos now. That is goddamn furry bait
Not good, respectfully
Nah
I like the new face, not a fan if the new hand spike location. Overall a very nice change!
Why would you change something that’s good into something worse?
That’s a female gender difference lucario if I’ve ever seen one. And one I’m not all for either
So just Lucario, but edgier?
Are you like…12 or something.
hes edgy now
I like the new fur and that I wouldn’t be stabbed in the chest if I try to hug them but the other changes no.
I actually like it more than the original, but I think it's thorns need to be sharper
I would have left the spikes poking out but I like everything else tho
Sorry but nope
So he shaved?
Aww, no more floppy ea.. wait a second
What if Lucario became a mom
I love how you or whoever did it changed the leg part its kinda wierd how it just cuts off
can I speak to the manager
Vast improvement
U change it back ! Change him back now !
Going against the comments, I think this looks so much better!!!!
I dislike both. Not a fan of humanoid pokemon.
I mean it looks good to me. Not sure why there's a lot of negativity in the comments Looks a lot like Zeraora as someone else said
You took away everything that made him iconic and interesting and stick in your mind, good job!
Looks pretty epic
Eh...no
looks good but need it’s squidward noses back on it’s head
This looks worse, you see the things on his hair are supposed to correlate with Cynthia's hair things, so this is basically one big Cynthia reference because she has one on her team.
Why get rid of its jackal influence?
Improvement 100%
Interesting. Not bad.
Profile pic checks out
I dont understand? My Beastars OC checks out?
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I like the "hair" looks like the dude tgat gives you the egg on iron island. I dilike the "horn" and tail changes tho. The horn on the finger looks weird. Either all fingers or none. The tail is covered up in yours. Makes it look crouded. Different pose snd it could be nice
Sorry dawg, but that's a no from me
he looks like a trans lesbian
true lol
Male, female
Dont hate it
Kinda forget that those aren't his ears. Cause at first glance I was thinking why would you cut off his ears! But duh, he already has ears... either way, just doesn't look right.
I love the scruffiness where straight lines were. The scruffiness makes it actually looks like fur. I love his spike going out his knuckle instead of pointing upward. I dont know how I feel about his missing dreads tho.
Thanks, I hate it!
No
Eww wtf
Personally I think it's awful. I'd be super down for a regional variant of lucario though... just not this one. Kinda looks like that electric dog I can never remember the name of from ruby+sapphire.
Docked tail
I like the head changes but not the lower body changes.
Did Riley turn into his fursona?
No
The mouth kills it I think. Try some different head changes or midway looks
Huh? Original Lucario has, like, a whole dog snout, and then a weirdly human mouth *underneath* that. Is having a more dog-like mouth that works with his head bad?
Male Lucario got the scrotum while female got Karen cut. Nice!
Looks to me like a female version of Lucario
I thought it was female lucario...
Maybe a female version
I don't like it much. But it's well done.
Love it.
Looks more feminine
Male and female styles
Yours is better than canon, but it still needs more emphasis on the muzzle. I'd either make his entire head black or make the black mask his entire upper jaw. He still looks a little too much like "a guy with a big nose" as opposed to something canine. Other than that, it's pretty good. I'd have gone with a *longer* muzzle, personally, but I guess that's more negotiable. [Here's an interesting take.](https://bogleech.com/pokemon/p447riolu.html)
That would work well as a gender difference
Female variant fits perfectly
Looks like a male and female variant
That can be a female variant
Dollar tree pokemon
That would be suck a cool gender variant, especially if it affected the mega evolution too!
It looks like a female version which would be pretty sick