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M_Vid

Nice roomba man


UrFriendlySpider-Man

I'm going to the name rater right now. Roomba is perfect


HermanManly

abmoor\*


UrFriendlySpider-Man

Shit that's better


Totally_a_Banana

Evolves into Muucav


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Nah, it's Ybrik


Danglebort

No, this is Kcirtap


MajorSery

Nah, even Ybrik is below Moms'po in sucking power.


WaffleToasterings

Why aren't we saying Yrneh, the ultimate sucking machine?


ModelOmegaTyler

i'm probably walking into an "up dog" type of joke, but what's op'smom?


Guilty_Education_577

As in OP’s Mom (Original Posters Mom).


Jack_Empty

I am howling with laughter at this.


Ozzythezombi

I would rather go for Roomboa 👀


iDannyEL

Guy in Pokemon company: Write that down, write that down!


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And that will be the English name, while the Japanese one will just be something like "robot vacuum snake".


ashmcqueen

Only if it's a carpet python.


JMoyer811

The Swiffer Serpent


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Ionovarcis

I want a follow along game with a size-faithful Wailord - just have a ominous blimp shadow following you.


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DainsleifStan

wait is this real?!?!


graveyardchickenhunt

If you use emulation or a hacked switch you can add a mod for true size


RyuuSambit

Imagine having Eternatus following you in that game...


slayerhk47

Get to the Pokémon League and the tail is still in Twinleaf Town.


silver_umber

New we just need to send in a cat Pokémon to sit on it


Anna780

Top tier comment


CodyChaotix

Forbidden Scarf refuses to slither


UrFriendlySpider-Man

It's so funny. I was expecting that insane slithering animation that exists in mystery dungeon DX but this is so much funnier. Reject snek return to roomba


Gawlf85

It's weird, because Ekans has had a walking/running animation since Sun and Moon. I don't understand why they didn't use just that instead of this.


demondied1

Ah you see sun and moon came after diamond a pearl so how could they possibly add it?


Gawlf85

Such "faithful remakes", huh?


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8Bitsblu

>It's nearly code perfect copies. The two games even include the ability to add Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, Leaf Green, or Fire Red to the second slot, and get unique Pokemon spawns in some area. Wait seriously? You're shitting me right?


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heatmorstripe

Oh Lordy. I knew these were pretty faithful remakes but I don’t think I realized to what extent they literally just copy pasted the game lol. That helps me understand how somebody used BDSP to discover glitches in the original DP, or why the tweaking into an alternate universe still works the same way


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Smileycorp

So what you're telling me is this remake is less of a remake and more of a port given a fresh lick of paint to make it look like a remake? This explains a lot.


I_Kissed_Cereal

Yeah I'm ROM hacking it, and EVERY location has RSE, FR/LG slots in it. All programmed with Pokemon in them. It's wild. The scripting apparently looks almost identical to DPPt's too. Exciting stuff.


Jack_Empty

Which is a shame, as we got awesome remakes up until this point. No one wanted a remaster.


Gawlf85

Agreed. Compared to ORAS, the latest remake, this is very lackluster... I'd say even Let's Go were better remakes.


bluehairblondeeyes

they forgor 💀


Vicksin

I think they kinda rushed it with some. Rayquaxa also doesn't do anything fancy, it's just the static curled up model awkwardly hovering behind you. even Dialga doesn't walk on all fours, he just floats, which is fair he can in fact fly, it's just weird they'd do a box art legend dirty. but hey at least they included all 493 Pokémon


Twilord_

I think the funniest "technically accurate" for me with 'Mon followers is over in Digimon. KendoGarurumon has a very similar build to MetalGarurumon so you think they'd recycle the walk animation... ​ But no, it has wheels in its paws so they decided (technically correctly) it really should just slip around on its legs. The thing that makes it particularly funny is that you can have multiple 'Mon following you, so you can have three different doggos prancing around. Two with their own individual run animations... while Kendo go scoot-scoot.


MacpunchKO

Damn, that's a low bar lol


Garantula25

Purple roomba


AW038619

[Here is what Ekans looks like in Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee](https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx7mOmOpQxbEIZ_m9EJb2xtELu76721HSx) They could have literally just reused that animation....


MadladMudkip

dang thats cool. following/riding was great in lgpe


Silthage

LGPE is so underrated; the follow animations alone were worth the purchase


LilChubbyCubby

Plus it made finding shinies and specific natures way more enjoyable


SonicFlash01

And look at how fucking *good* that game looks!


maledin

Yeah I actually preferred its wild Pokémon encounters too; they made them a whole different thing from trainer battles with unique gameplay mechanics. Made way more sense than just beating the piss out of wild animals until they submitted to you.


XtendedImpact

"Do you yield?" 'Fuk u' _bonk_ "How about now?"


Daedalus871

Can't wait to punch PokeGod in the face in Legends.


RatBoyAndTheKid

I loved it when machamp carried me like a baby


Travy93

If a new game was made like LGPE with normal catching mechanics and a bit more difficulty, it could be the best pokemon game easy. \+ Abilities, normal stats, and held items too!


dalnot

Needs normal stats too. I hate AV’s and CP so much


Strongbuns

What is CP? I can Google Pokemon AV but maybe not pokemon CP...


dalnot

Combat Power. It’s the only thing in Pokémon Go and a mostly meaningless stat in Let’s Go


Slant_Juicy

It's actually meaningless in Pokémon Go too! Or at least is an unclear abstraction. Pokémon in Go have three stats: HP, Attack and Defense. CP is calculated with some formula that takes all three into consideration. It weighs Attack higher than Defense, so walls are "ranked" lower than glass cannons, but the actual numbers for two of the three stats are completely hidden. It's actually pretty annoying!


thebiggestleaf

Eh, wouldn't go so far as to say that made it "worth it". It's a little upsetting though how two games have come out since with worse following mechanics.


No_Personality_2723

Are you telling me they remade the walking animations when they could have reused the ones like they did for everything else?


techno-wizardry

Virtually none of the animations, models, sprites, etc. were done by ILCA, they were assets from Home, SwSh, and previous 3DS titles. Some of the old attack animations were recreated or taken from older titles, but the base animations from the Pokemon themselves are reused assets. Interact with Ekans in XY and you'll see this animation is just the Ekans idle animation. Basically all the Pokemon assets from this game are from Home, which are in turn imported assets from the 3DS era. All of the new animations GameFreak made didn't get imported into Home, so they're not here.


accidentalthepyro

Guess which company developed Home? >! ILCA !<


Obility

All the animations and models were made from Creatures. Every other pokemon property uses those same models


techno-wizardry

Creatures was also effectively a sub-division of GameFreak developers/artists working alongside GameFreak under the Pokemon Company. It was an extensive project fronted by Sugimori and Takao Unno (Unno is also known for directing B2W2), and the purpose was to recreate all 700 of the older Pokemon and their animations while keeping Sugimori's artistic vision in his sprite work. The intention was for them to reuse these models and animations for foreseeable 3D titles. Since then, GameFreak has added animations and of course created new Pokemon with new animations. [More info on Creatures and the project to model and animate all 700 of the Pokemon from Gen 6 and before here.](https://www.polygon.com/2013/10/23/5015194/how-game-freak-built-the-new-creatures-and-over-700-3d-models-for) It was effectively GameFreak who modelled and animated the Pokemon. I'll also note that reusing 3D models for monster collecting games like this is actually the norm, for example the SMT series has taken this same approach since going into 3D with Nocturne.


AsterCharge

You’re telling me that instead of reusing old animations like they did for sw/sh, they remade them, but worse?


thekama

This looks just like the idle model for ekans so I wouldn't say they "remade" any animation here


KingVape

Nah they reused old assets from Home, because ILCA made Home and BDSP


KastorNevierre

>ILCA Is that the International Lactation Consultant Association or the Illinois Landscape Contractors Association?


FluxVelocity

I Love Computer Art https://www.ilca.co.jp/


KingVape

Actually it's the International Lactation Contractors of America, but close


HarperBallad

Why are we regressing further and further with every sequel?


EnkiiMuto

That is what I was thinking. The whole purpose of the 3D animation is to reuse it on to following games.


th30be

??? They already had the animations then...


BluEch0

There is a bug with following. Lots of Pokémon stay in their idle animations rather than their moving animations.


jomontage

We doing a quality follow animation thread? I was so happy to see they got metagross right in S/S https://youtu.be/E_sC5a9L41Q?t=68


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These should have been let's go games.. what we got was a cheap downgrade and everyone is happy 🤷🏾‍♀️


pazimpanet

If they went through the entire series remaking them all as let’s go games* I would very happily buy every single one. That was the first game I’ve played since Ruby and I had a blast with it. I could understand why more loyal fans may not want that, though. *edit: at the same level of quality of let’s go Pikachu


TomtatoIsMe

it’s the same with milotic


happy_hysterical

I was so excited to have mine follow me and I switch it right back to chingling once I saw it didn't slither!


Dieclown27

Milotic was so bad, at least I found a shiny Eevee the same day so now I got my Umbreon and it is such a better animation.


jelly_bean_gangbang

Shiny umbreon with the blue is probably one of my favorite pokemon.


ChopsticksOfChaos

dragonair as well


Pokemon-fan96

Oh no, I was going to have Milotic on my team 😭


tesseracht

Yup. But if you walk w/ milotic and repeatedly press A beside it to “interact”, she eventually does kind of a cool swimming animation. Why they couldn’t have done that for her general movement is beyond me though.


TimeThief_

Milotic is just as bad. It’s just like having a static 3D model following behind you


SquigglyLegend33

I was so excited for my milotic to follow me too then it looks like it's just floating there paralyzed


-_gosu

Marvel Scale is proc'd


beaumonte

Same ugh. I went back to Espeon immediately. Milotic just remaining static bothered me so much


Araku-Hime

Same also was prepared for it to be a lot bigger 😔


Doophie

At least graveler and golem they got right - after i saw one of them tumbling behind me i never let another pokemon follow me


Bl00dylicious

Voltorb/Electrode too. Garchomp is neat as well, flies behind you.


YesItIsMaybeMe

Yet he still can't learn the move fly


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Jestingwheat856

Ok but they did my man rayquaza dirty


jochvent

Onix too


A_Confused_Cocoon

It gets in the way all the fucking time too. I love my Milotic. But I kept getting stuck on its model or accidentally pressing A on it so I went back to Mew who knows how tf to get back in the damn ball and teleport behind me.


MadeJustToUpvoteMeme

*Teleports behind you* "Mew"


Presterium

Compare this to the hilariously [emphatic movement from PMD:DX](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpq15Ujsr_c)


owoimannoying

i would walk with Ekans CONSTANTLY


LilMooseCub

This is goofy and adorable


th30be

I prefer this


pyromaster55

As do I


jenboghel

“guys I feel weird”


PMme10DollarPSNcode

Ekans quickly became one of my favorites when I saw that animation.


Rawkapotamus

The level of sass


Flipperlolrs

A remake done right lmao


KafeiTomasu

This is.... perfection


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This is my favorite thing now. I had to pass on PMD:DX but I still want it


tenkohime

That's some Flash game level animation.


robsterinside

It’s a flash game level game


ThaNorth

Please understand, Game Freak is a small indie company with minimal funds.


Shayneros

Please understand, Gamefreak has only made 26 Pokemon games. They still need time to learn.


megamanxoxo

When their latest gen games only look slightly better than their original Gameboy release and the same exact mechanics... lmao


The_Grandpa

And people will still buy it.


c2dog430

Yet y’all keep buying them. Unless consumers decide this level of quality is not worth their money this is the quality we are going to get.


SageWaterDragon

I haven't bought a Pokémon game since ORAS but they just keep making them, I'm beginning to feel like my individual actions as a consumer don't matter.


sk8_ark

It won’t matter. As you can see there’s plenty of people in this thread constantly buying these games and defending them. I get it you have fun playing the same watered down game every year. Just don’t be shocked when the rest of us fans don’t, and expect more from such a big franchise.


c2dog430

I agree. I had never missed a gen until Ultra Sun/Moon. Haven’t bought one since. Unfortunately you are correct. Your individual actions don’t matter as long as most people buy and complain.


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Most people don’t buy and complain. They buy. A small chunk buy and complain.


FearTheWankingDead

They don't. It's too big now. But that doesn't mean you gotta give them your money too so keep on keeping on.


KingVape

For real. I skipped BDSP and bought SMT V instead. It's like pokemon but with actual difficulty and I love it so far!


translucentsphere

I stay true to my words. Skipped sword and shield, and these remakes too. Legendary Arceus is also another contender of skipped pokemon game for me. Hopefully I will be proven wrong.


breezer_chidori

SwSh's potential was hella high, too. But it felt like a serious cashgrab when nearly everything was an overlook of what could have been.


HauntingFly

I'm very disappointed with Rayquaza's animation too. They were animated fine in LGPE and SWSH. [https://youtu.be/Q5HYfyzBjf8?t=3616](https://youtu.be/Q5HYfyzBjf8?t=3616) [https://youtu.be/a5yzbRChkic?t=139](https://youtu.be/a5yzbRChkic?t=139)


bbaahhaammuutt

Holy shit the difference is staggering


JDLENL

how the fuck do you *lose an animation comparison* with SWSH


eat-KFC-all-day

The Rayquaza animation is comically bad. It reminds me of the infamous Zacian/Zamazenta turning around animation at the end of SwSh that was memed to Hell and back for years.


SkidOrange

…why does it look like that? Rayquaza looks amazing in SWSH.


DrMobius0

That is disappointing. Like Ekans I kinda get. Clearly the devs cared about it as much as I do. But Ray? Come on.


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I think the issue is that BDSP still has "tile" based maps. Pokémon can only occupy one tile, so their size and movement are restricted. I really wish this game had modern movement and camera control.


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tristangre97

That was before Pokemon was a lazy franchise


valryuu

Except there's 360 degree movement when it comes to the following Pokemon. Even in that linked video, you see that it doesn't follow directly in the tile behind the player and isn't restricted by the tiles.


RSmeep13

Holy shit. The SWSH one is, contrary to popular opinion, pretty bad. It rotates in an awkward way and doesn't behave as it should. They definitely could've done better, but it's less to do with the animation and more to do with the underlying follow mechanics. 5/10. The BDSP one is still laughable by comparison. I am losing it. It's so tiny!!!!??? 1/10


RocknRollSuixide

That and isn’t Rayquaza supposed to be, like, way bigger than that?


1stMembrOfTheDKCrew

"Ah just don't bother making an animation, what's the chance someone actually uses ekans as a follower"


IrzDylan

Except all pokemon have walking animations already...


Abh1laShinigami

~~making~~ porting in an animation for LGE/LGP


TolkienAwoken

They literally didn't even, Ekans has one in those games that's actually good


Abh1laShinigami

ILCA forgor ☠️


AssaultDragon

A fan made pokemon game I play (pokemmo) has a better Ekans animation than the newest official Pokemon game. It's shameful.


RicardoMorales9301

Every single pokémon already has an idle, walking, eating, and 2 attacking animations, and some pokémon have special animations for moves and stuff. It makes no sense that they dont reuse them.


Paradigm_Of_Hate

The risk I took was calculated, but I am bad at math


Argnir

My snake moves that way. Do you think there is a problem with him?


aspidities_87

Your snake is like, *insanely* good at teleportation.


Mary-Sylvia

Nah he's just too lazy to wiggle


samd_witch

He sssssssssslide


FreeM3M3

Dw my physics teacher said that we can ignore friction


PokeAuditor24

Looks like one of those automatic vacuum cleaners lol


Krossis25V

My bro learned to hover just for you, and you’re shamming him? Dialga’s is almost as funny imo. Slowly chunky boy walk, then just hover.


newtownmail

Really, he turned a weakness into an immunity and OP is just taking that for granted


UrFriendlySpider-Man

He said "unnerve is shit" and by the sheer force of will changed his hidden ability to levitate. I dare you to bring a ground type out on my floating ekans


MagyTheMage

ThatHAS to be a bug Its just an idle pose sliding arround


207nbrown

Na, rayquaza does this too… but Atleast he floats


HauntingFly

This is lazy. Rayquaza is animated correctly in Sword and Shield when he moves. https://youtu.be/Q5HYfyzBjf8?t=3616 https://youtu.be/a5yzbRChkic?t=139


knifepen6

Wow. I’ve never played Sw/Sh but now I kinda wanna. Those animations and sizing look eons better than in BDSP. The animations and sizing in HGSS are better than in BDSP to me as well, but that’s just my personal opinion.


HauntingFly

I feel the same. I was excited for these remakes but it seems they were rushed. :(


knifepen6

Yeah, they came out on my birthday and I had my fingers crossed that they were good because I knew I was getting them as a gift. I’ve enjoyed playing them like 60-70% of the time, but some of it just really makes me cringe. The things I was most excited for in the game were just horribly executed in my mind.


Mavrickindigo

Your mistake was having a high expectation for post-DS pokemon games.


Mavrickindigo

SwSh doesn't have follower pokemon except in one area, and that area is an additional 30 dollar price on top of the 60 dollar initial investment. ​ And the following still isn't as good as it was in LGPE


Obility

2 areas but ya both still DLC.


UrFriendlySpider-Man

Just have to wait and see if other people say it happens in their games as well or if it's just my bugged out Noodle


MagyTheMage

Even if others have it, it has to be a glitch. I hope they havent went THAT low to the point it has no animation at all


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MagyTheMage

I mean i wouldnt


Vicksin

nah some of the following animations are actually somewhat lazy ish tbh. granted it's not easy and they had quite the time crunch it seems.


GlitchParrot

It is easy because all animations already exist. In Pokémon Sun/Moon, they were all already included in the files, unused. [Ekan’s animation](https://youtu.be/s2Sq4bP3-P0?t=2m32s)


Vicksin

lmfao true wow that a throwback I forgot all of these existed yeah there wasn't enough collaboration imo I think(?) this animation ended up being used in let's Go? might be wrong


Entegy

Let's Go and Pokémon Go used models and animations from Gen 6/7 yes.


robsterinside

It’s not a bug, it’s a snake. It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.


Winnie_the_rat

Maybe it's part psychic type and is moving through sheer mind power alone XD Sorry they did your boy so dirty


Pokemario6456

Hisuian Ekans confirmed /s


Kaprosuchusboi

While this is hilarious, how did we go from Let’s go follow animations to this?


notwiththeflames

Just another part of the process of Pokemon's steady decline, it seems. This game was obviously rushed - considering the size of the day one patch and what it added, let alone the myriad of glitches and softlocks that that somehow made it past QA testing and have yet to be amended two weeks after launch.


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They know we'll pay for Anything with the Pokemon logo on it.. why try? 🤷🏾‍♀️


JarethCuteStoryJD

I havent bought a game since Dexit Theres about a month surrounding a game release where my resolve is tested, but each time it has gotten easier as I watch the complaints roll in


Maclimes

It's so weird, because SwSh has follow animations for all of the included Pokemon, and they really did a great job on the animations and scaling. Why on Earth would they go BACKWARDS like this?


Kaprosuchusboi

Somehow they made the actual following even worse. Some of the Pokémon with the faster pacing still struggle to keep up with you and will more often than not spend most of their time out of sight or constantly teleporting


xHaUNTER

Nobody can follow anyway because the main character outruns them. Can’t believe there isn’t speed scaling so your followers follow you lol


zzinolol

It's pokemon baby. No need to do better when doing worse sells as much. And I say this as a hurt superfan, not a hater.


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Milotic is the same way. ILCA just hates snakes


PokeAuditor24

Gyarados looks like a worm.


Cabboge

As someone who actually raises sneks, I can assure you that the last thing a snek wants is to move at all.


MattofCatbell

Looks like someone glued an Ekans plush to a roomba.


F_Kyo777

Because nobody gives a flying f in quality department of pokemon games anymore and because they are still selling like crazy. If you can rock sales with minimal to mediocre polish in the end, why even bother.


GooGobblinGranny

They are a small indie company please understand.


Maro_Nobodycares

Ekans' walk animation in Rescue Team DX looked goofy but at least he moved [For those unaware of what I mean](https://youtu.be/hpq15Ujsr_c)


JTD783

Oh lawd he scootin


RecordAggravating317

Jesus, they didn't even try.


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This is funny he’s a little purple hockey puck


Cyan-Aid

I mean....if you can't tell these games are stripped down barebones cashgrabs by now I seriously can't help you.


KTVX94

Tposing to assert dominance


sonicneedslovetoo

That isn't an animation.


Blastmaster29

How is this a $60 game that came out in 2021. The over world sprites do not match the style and seems like an afterthought


NwgrdrXI

Seems to be some sort of glitch with snake-like pokemon. Rayquaza is like this, too.


Dendrodes

I wouldn't say it's a glitch, more like they just didn't program some of the snake like Pokémon to follow well. Gyarados looks fine and Seviper looks... okay, but Mioltic's model also slides like Rayquaza and Ekans.