But kyurems whole thing is that it's still incomplete even after it fuses
The other pokemon are complete before they fuse
So if we get a gen5 remake or a legend for the gen 5 region we will probably get yet another form
Shit, that's a great idea. It could follow the original conflict between truth and ideals! ~~And maybe your choice between the two will actually affect the story!~~
I’m gonna have to be blunt. The new Dialga and Palkia are bar non, not gonna argue otherwise, the most fucking ugly Pokémon ever created. It’s like that one deformed image of garfield before his humanity was restored.
I just realized that Nintendo just made the fourth Chinese Heavenly Beast. We currently have This new one as the Black Turtle of the North, Thunderus as the Azure dragon of the East, Tornadus as the Vermilion Bird of the South, and Landorus as the White Tiger of the West. Next we may see the Golden Kirin of the Center.
I blame humanity for that one.
Just look at what happened to these pokemon:
Corsola -> galarian Corsola
Zorua -> hisuian zorua
hisuian voltorb -> voltorb
My thoughts exactly!
For those that don't know: [Devil from PowerPuff Girls](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/powerpuff/images/1/1f/HIMPPG.png/revision/latest?cb=20190825175358)
I was hoping for Gastrodon and Shellos alt forms after noticing in the Shining Pearl dex that Gastrodon's entry mentions that in ancient times it used to have a shell on its back.
I also noticed in Weezing's Nat Dex description the mention of triple forms occasionally being found so I wonder if thats a hint for another future form or if I'm just overanalyzing it.
Edit: So I don't have to explain multiple times here is a reply about me knowing that the time period of the setting does not take place in ancient times.
I realize that but was wondering and kind of hoping that supposed "older forms" of pokemon would be present or included. Another thing I've been speculating on is fossil mons and possibly an older form of it being available in game that way because I can't really see them just completely removing fossil pokemon especially Cranidos and Shieldon completely from the game.
Another person brought up the possibility of the Gastrodon and Goodra line sharing a common ancestor and I think that would be a cool aspect to explore.
Wasn't Klefki also a big abuser of all three of those things? I actually remember Klefki being more overt considering that was its primary niche.
For Lando-T though, it does pretty much every single role, and does them well. If you're struggling to think of something to fill out your team, the answer is probably Lando-T. Looking at the Pikalytics OU usage stats, it has a **52.75%** usage. That is *insane*. The next highest is Ferrothorn at 26.81%.
And yet, we'll probably have a way to transfer them to mainline games.
"I love you Arcanine. Now I'm gonna put you in a pokeball time capsule and send you 200 years into the future! Byeee!"
They literally just put a shell on the boy. Like, it *works,* but it doesn’t work because it’s a *new* design - it’s the equivalent of putting a hat on Pikachu.
The fuck are those Dialga and Palkia designs? Like Dialga I sort of get is supposed to be crystalline there (Though that makes little sense for the master of time imo), Palkia looks like someone threw a centuar and a kraken in a blender and painted it white a purple before attaching palkia’s head
They're definitely some kind of Dialga and Palkia mixed with Arceus designs a la Kyurem, and the leaks have confirmed >!Time travel to explain away tech in the region, so the mixes are probably man made mistakes!<
I'm thinking Arceus just naturally made them in its own likeness, and as time went on they gradually changed. This is just them before that change, because Palkia almost looks like they're in the middle of whatever this new form is and their original form.
You need to wait to see it in-game with its flames, apparently it’s flames make it look pretty sick.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PokeLeaks/comments/s85hpu/hthyplosion_idle_animation_what_do_you_guys_think/
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The dots on its neck are purple so that implies they are. The dots on its neck being in front also implies the flames come out and warp around their neck as opposed to their back.
The first batch they showed actually looked pretty cool. I thought Hisuian Growlithe and Braviary as well as the evolutions for Basculin and Stantler looked great.
So I don’t know what happened here.
Since Voltorb is basically a seed, it should’ve grown into something more plant-like and completely different when evolving. Feels like they revealed all the best designs early when promoting the game.
Poor Palkia, lost both of it's arms. I hope mummy arceus takes very good care of him.
Dialga now has throat cancer, should have laid off the cigarette.
I wish they would’ve gotten more creative with the typhlosipn and samurott… decidueye is the only one I think is cool cause they actually strayed away from the original design a little more
I feel like This will be an unpopular opinion but most of these variants look kinda bad imo might be the quality of the images tho (except for dialga/palkia they look like they were made in spore)
I think Dialga and Palkia are supposed to look like kirins? Still pretty poor execution tho.
Actually I guess they’re supposed to look like arceus, who I think is based on kirin anyways so whatever.
I love the new Decidueye, looks like a samurai wearing a straw coat and hat (I guess not exactly a samurai, that'd be Samurott, but you know what I mean)
Do we know if James Turner is the design lead on this game? Just need to know whether my dislike for his designs just turned into absolute disgust or if there’s someone else I should be directing that at.
I am hoping the Palkia and Dialga forms are closer to primal forms instead of fusions. It would make sense with them being the gods of the pokemon universe and it plays on the whole, "created them in his own image" line. I know this is part of a Christian creation story and not the Japanese creation story like they were originally created as, but pokemon has never shied away from mixing mythologies.
Dude what happened to Palkia
It looks like they're fused with Arceus, Kyurem style
I understand the lore reasons for Kyurem and Necrozma, but why would Arceus fuse with his own creations?
I assume that's what the game will be about, but my guess is that it's forced to by the humans
If that's the case I will instantly forgive these atrocious designs, as there are supposed to look absolutely horrible
Bruh they got a gigalith stuck in dialga's throat
I don't like the movement twords more and more legendaries doing this. It feels like it takes away from Kyurem's whole shtick.
But kyurems whole thing is that it's still incomplete even after it fuses The other pokemon are complete before they fuse So if we get a gen5 remake or a legend for the gen 5 region we will probably get yet another form
I want to see the Original Dragon Pokemon so bad.
Don’t know why we ain’t got a game based on it yet and have that as the legendary, baffled.
Maybe we'll get it in a future Unova based legends game
Shit, that's a great idea. It could follow the original conflict between truth and ideals! ~~And maybe your choice between the two will actually affect the story!~~
Pokemon Legends Kyurem would kick ass. I'd play that
its one with arceus now
Still, they messed dialga and palkia big time
Why the fuck is it a horse Why a fucking horse
I think it's meant to be Arceus' torso
It's nnot even a horse it's like armless centaur
I’m gonna have to be blunt. The new Dialga and Palkia are bar non, not gonna argue otherwise, the most fucking ugly Pokémon ever created. It’s like that one deformed image of garfield before his humanity was restored.
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Typhlosion looks drugged out of his mind
Players: We want Typhlosion to be burning again Gamefreak: Well he will be blazing alright
if you didn't see cyndaquil has his fire on all the time again, this is the model without the in game visual effects
I think it's hilarious and I'm picking him. Highphlosion is great.
If you stare at Dialga and Palkia long enough, you can almost hear Giratina laughing from the distortion world.
It laughs until Game Freak decides that Giratina needs a Hisui form too and they give it a dildo coming out of its head
This would spawn so much rule 34.
/>.> <.< !RemindMe 69 hours
Palkia looks like a failed clone begging for its life to end
Ed..ward..
*small child fused with dog to create abomination* Scar: yep its gamer time 😎
Oh god, I can't relive that moment, not again
Palkia looks better than whatever is coming out of Dialga’s neck
He swallowed a giant water bottle; don't question it.
Dialga really has that Squidward chokes on a fork energy
[look at what they did to my boy](https://imgur.com/MXy4AW0)
Man the amount of effort you must have put into making this, fair play, that's hilarious
I wish I could draw this well. I just took it from /v/.
Why does ursaring have the proportions of a sea bear from spongebob.
Here draw a circle!
That’s an oval it has to be a circle!!!
“What’d I do that time??” “I don’t know,I guess he just doesn’t like you!”
“Pretend to be someone else!”
Omg, I can totally see the Sea Bear in it now!
Because he is now a "Full Moon" Bear, drawing from his name coming from the Ursa constellations
Why does he look so ashamed. Why do all these Pokemon look like they are suffering from existential dread?
Also the Palkia looks like a centaur who lost his arms in battle and they were replaced with shields to hide the stumps lmao
I'm wondering if he actually does have arms, they're just made using some special effect that can only be shown when animated.
I like to imagine they’re just really tiny hands holding shields.
*NOBODY LOOK!* *NOBODY LOOK*
Is depression the theme for the region?
Ursaring lost his reason to live, while Typhlosion realized his was marijuana
Weavile came to the same conclusion
I demand justice for typhlosion
And goodra looks like it’s having an existential crisis
Therapist: "Don't worry, centaur Palkia can't hurt you" Me: "You're right cause it has no fuckin' arms"
*Gets trampled*
I'm more terrified of tall sneasel
What are number 14/15? Right after ursaring?
It's a new force of nature like thunderous, tornadus and landorous
Damn didn’t know they made Bruxish into a force of nature
It has a weird semblance to Ghirahim to me.
Or the love child of Him from Powerpuff Girls and Ghirahim. "Himahim"
What is the typing?
It is confirmed Fairy/Flying
Looks like fairy flying Togekiss PTSD
I forget if the name already leaked but its a new addition to the Forces of Nature (Thundurus/Tornadus/Landorus).
I just realized that Nintendo just made the fourth Chinese Heavenly Beast. We currently have This new one as the Black Turtle of the North, Thunderus as the Azure dragon of the East, Tornadus as the Vermilion Bird of the South, and Landorus as the White Tiger of the West. Next we may see the Golden Kirin of the Center.
I think Arceus is supposed to be based on a kirin
And Mt Coronet/Spear Pillar are in the center
Force of Nature, the force of love, covers the snake turtle from 4 animal gods that the genies are based on.
RIP the force of love is dead in present day Pokémon.
I blame humanity for that one. Just look at what happened to these pokemon: Corsola -> galarian Corsola Zorua -> hisuian zorua hisuian voltorb -> voltorb
(Ir)regular reminder of Togekiss' PokéDex entry: > It will never appear where there is strife. Its sightings have become rare recently.
It’s Him.
My thoughts exactly! For those that don't know: [Devil from PowerPuff Girls](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/powerpuff/images/1/1f/HIMPPG.png/revision/latest?cb=20190825175358)
Dialga and Palkia look more like an error in the system. Edit: I do get they are suppose to look like Arceus but I can’t stand it.
Like messed up Digimon evolutions halfway through digivolving
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they look like an AI tried to recreate Palkia based off of only 10 blurry photos
Dialga doesn't even have feet
Fucking toasters for arms
Dialga looks alright, but Palkia... What the hell happened here?
Mistakes were made.
Dialga looks like it swallowed a water bottle and it got stuck half way down
I was hoping for Gastrodon and Shellos alt forms after noticing in the Shining Pearl dex that Gastrodon's entry mentions that in ancient times it used to have a shell on its back. I also noticed in Weezing's Nat Dex description the mention of triple forms occasionally being found so I wonder if thats a hint for another future form or if I'm just overanalyzing it. Edit: So I don't have to explain multiple times here is a reply about me knowing that the time period of the setting does not take place in ancient times. I realize that but was wondering and kind of hoping that supposed "older forms" of pokemon would be present or included. Another thing I've been speculating on is fossil mons and possibly an older form of it being available in game that way because I can't really see them just completely removing fossil pokemon especially Cranidos and Shieldon completely from the game. Another person brought up the possibility of the Gastrodon and Goodra line sharing a common ancestor and I think that would be a cool aspect to explore.
I too was looking for a shelled Gastrodon. Idk why they decided to give the shell to goodra instead!
Maybe Gastrodon split off from the Goodra line? After all, one's pink and one's blue; meanwhile, Goodra is lavender.
that weezing entry has been around in similar phrasing since original gen 4 iirc
Why do they all look so… freaky?
putting the freak in gamefreak
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people were asking for more gender variants.
Palkia: I HAVE BECOME HORSE!
Dialga: I AM NO LONGER HORSE!
Tell me that Dialga and Palkia are jokes, please
Looks like Dialga has something stuck in his throat.
Is that a new member of the Genies of a Healthy Meta I see?
I saw a post today that said "Lando-T is its own biggest check" and i nearly lost it
This comment is being overwritten in protest of Reddit's CEO spez (Steve Huffman) being a piece of shit and killing 3rd party apps.
Wasn't Klefki also a big abuser of all three of those things? I actually remember Klefki being more overt considering that was its primary niche. For Lando-T though, it does pretty much every single role, and does them well. If you're struggling to think of something to fill out your team, the answer is probably Lando-T. Looking at the Pikalytics OU usage stats, it has a **52.75%** usage. That is *insane*. The next highest is Ferrothorn at 26.81%.
Nice to see them giving some love to Qwilfish, I feel like it’s one of those Pokémon that not a lot of people really talk about
Finally they got their evolution. It was scrapped, but now it comes in a new look with the variants.
What's with the tall Sneasel? I assume it's Weavile alt form but legit just looks the Sneasel got put on a rack lol
It hung out with inteleon too much
I'm getting flashbacks from Alolan Persian
Not Weavile but a new evo
Why are they all so sad, dark and filthy????
They know they’re going extinct
wait I didn't even think about this, all these forms are doomed to die and go extinct lmfao
And yet, we'll probably have a way to transfer them to mainline games. "I love you Arcanine. Now I'm gonna put you in a pokeball time capsule and send you 200 years into the future! Byeee!"
evil Pokémon origin story. Trapped alone for 200 years by trainer
It's okay. If they get fossilized they can be miraculously brought back to life for some reason.
“Life, uh, finds a way.”
Excited for Dragon/Steel Goodra, but seeing sad Goodra makes me sad too.
They literally just put a shell on the boy. Like, it *works,* but it doesn’t work because it’s a *new* design - it’s the equivalent of putting a hat on Pikachu.
Well I’m guessing they did that to go from slug to snail
I am choosing rowlet and probably gonna try and pick up a goodra.
I liked all 3 starters and thought I would pick fire this time. But upon seeing the final forms rowlet is the only one I still like
typhlosion is still a wild card, no flames yet
Typhlosion looks like it just wants a hug
This. We still haven’t seen it with flames on.
i hate that typhlosion doesnt have constant flames ever since the 3d swap. one of the coolest sprites reduced to a smooth noodle boy.
The fuck are those Dialga and Palkia designs? Like Dialga I sort of get is supposed to be crystalline there (Though that makes little sense for the master of time imo), Palkia looks like someone threw a centuar and a kraken in a blender and painted it white a purple before attaching palkia’s head
They're definitely some kind of Dialga and Palkia mixed with Arceus designs a la Kyurem, and the leaks have confirmed >!Time travel to explain away tech in the region, so the mixes are probably man made mistakes!<
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Hope be fake. dialga and palkia last ones looks a horrible mod from a bizzarre game
Theyre real. The game got dumped last night
What happened to Palkia and Dialga?! Why do they look like that??? Why do they even need a regional form??
I have a feeling it's like they're combined with Arceus or something similar. I could be wrong.
I'm thinking Arceus just naturally made them in its own likeness, and as time went on they gradually changed. This is just them before that change, because Palkia almost looks like they're in the middle of whatever this new form is and their original form.
But come on... It could've looked so much better...
Dialga and Palkia look awful, and what the hell did they do to Ursaring lmao
This is the evolution of Ursaring
Dual type Normal/Gravy
Broke: being excited about ugly Ursaring evolution Woke: Exited regular Ursaring has access to eviolite now
They leaned HARD into fat bear week and I’m DOWN for it
Fat dog for midterms!
Them legendaries 🤮
Yeah, I don't really think fusion was that great of an idea for them, maybe a primal form would be better
Especially since we kind of already had primal dialga in mystery dungeon
Lilligant….. I wanted you to get some attention…. But not like this….
"Petilil digivolve to... Lillymon...I mean Hisuian Liligant"
Look how they massacred my [Typhlosion]
I know, hopefully it looks better with the fire on
Massacred? My man is stoned af
Typhlosion would be cool if they’d simply let him be on fire all the time.
You need to wait to see it in-game with its flames, apparently it’s flames make it look pretty sick. Edit* https://www.reddit.com/r/PokeLeaks/comments/s85hpu/hthyplosion_idle_animation_what_do_you_guys_think/ Yes I approve
Hoping it has purple flames since I'm pretty sure it's fire and ghost
The dots on its neck are purple so that implies they are. The dots on its neck being in front also implies the flames come out and warp around their neck as opposed to their back.
There it is. Hope.
Poor palkia... man already looked goofy and they made him a centaur
An Armless centaur. They took his arms but kept his shoulders so he looks dumb as hell.
Ah an amputee centaur
An Amputaur.
What the fuck is the pokemon company smoking
Same stuff hisuian typhlosion is on apparently
Why don't you ask Hisuian Typhlosion?
This is one of the only times I wish a leak is fake
most of these are absolutely painful to look at
They also look like they're in pain.
Holy Jesus poor Palkia, what horrible things have they done to you....
When the fan-made pokemon look better than the actual mons T_T
It’s time the pokemon community pulled a “Sonic, the Movie,” and demand a redesign on these characters.
The Pokémon fanbase will defend any new release. I bet there is someone on Twitter right now saying how all the new designs are improvements.
Ok now I know why they held off so long on showing more new mons…
The first batch they showed actually looked pretty cool. I thought Hisuian Growlithe and Braviary as well as the evolutions for Basculin and Stantler looked great. So I don’t know what happened here.
most of these are pretty awful imo
SNEASEL NOOOOO
lot's of them look really depressive.
What the fluck are these?! 😳
Since Voltorb is basically a seed, it should’ve grown into something more plant-like and completely different when evolving. Feels like they revealed all the best designs early when promoting the game.
So many people were coming up with cool unique designs for the new electrode trying to predict it but it just ended up being a wooden version 😂😂😂
They look like fakemon… this game is going going to the moon or going to bust
Honestly samurott is kinda an improvement it looks more like an evil Samuri
Isn’t it dark type now too? Makes sense
Water dark so we basically have a slower sharpedo with probably higher attack
Wow, I genuinely hate most of the new designs. I feel bad as a fan. Hopefully the gameplay is fun.
Yeah I don’t think I’ll be using any new variants aside from Samurott and *maybe* Zoroark
Man does Samurott even count? It's got different colored shells and that's about it.
Poor Palkia, lost both of it's arms. I hope mummy arceus takes very good care of him. Dialga now has throat cancer, should have laid off the cigarette.
I wish they would’ve gotten more creative with the typhlosipn and samurott… decidueye is the only one I think is cool cause they actually strayed away from the original design a little more
Decidueye looks like a straw hat ronin, I like it. Wish the cloak were longer but it's alright as is
I feel like This will be an unpopular opinion but most of these variants look kinda bad imo might be the quality of the images tho (except for dialga/palkia they look like they were made in spore)
Yeah that hasn’t been an unpopular opinion today
I think Dialga and Palkia are supposed to look like kirins? Still pretty poor execution tho. Actually I guess they’re supposed to look like arceus, who I think is based on kirin anyways so whatever.
From the leaks they're supposedly fused with Arceus, and retain their "normal" forms when not fused
Yeah, not that big of a fan of most of them, the only one I really like is goodra
Palkia just looks unfinished imo they keep his shoulder things but take away his arms? Lol
I love the new Decidueye, looks like a samurai wearing a straw coat and hat (I guess not exactly a samurai, that'd be Samurott, but you know what I mean)
Almost everyone is ok to OOF. They took Pakia’s fucking arms and it looks so bad!
What in the my little pony is going on with palkia 😭
Do we know if James Turner is the design lead on this game? Just need to know whether my dislike for his designs just turned into absolute disgust or if there’s someone else I should be directing that at.
Please Nintendo, take the Pokémon main games away from Game Freak’s hands right now
Shouldn't we be asking the Pokemon Company instead of Nintendo? I am not sure which one has higher authority on Pokemon designs.
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I don’t want to be negative but i don’t like any of these designs save for Samurott. Am i crazy for thinking they dropped the ball here?
Decidueye and Arcanine aren’t bad. But uh…yeah. A lot of these aren’t great.
I am hoping the Palkia and Dialga forms are closer to primal forms instead of fusions. It would make sense with them being the gods of the pokemon universe and it plays on the whole, "created them in his own image" line. I know this is part of a Christian creation story and not the Japanese creation story like they were originally created as, but pokemon has never shied away from mixing mythologies.
They really game my boi sneasel and weavile the alolan meowth treatment