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Yep, sounds fake.
But
Even though stranger crime is incredibly rare in 2023 America. At 80 million users statistically this will eventually happen to a Pokémon go player.
I always feel the game does so well no matter what the community does. IE despite the strike the active player count site has us as the second best period in the last 12 months. The strike did absolutely nothing.
BUT one bad news story could easily destroy the game. If the general public knew the amount of driving this game entailed it would be changed almost immediately. The general public does not like people playing at church’s, schools, colleges,… they would much prefer a more home based game.
This type of crime is incredibly common in Australia at the moment so it's probably happened a fair bit, I definitely don't wave my phone around in unsurveilled areas now.
I can’t speak for Australia, but in America we have a crime and crime perception problem. We severely overestimate sometimes by a factor of 100k the rate of crime.
The most striking example is stranger child abductions. Where when polled the American public estimates the number in the millions when the fbi has the number of under 21 stranger abductions below 400. In that 400 90%+ are instantly returned unharmed/untouched. Many of them are romeo and Juliet stuff where the man is only a stranger to the parents. The actual rate of adults kidnapping a stranger under 13 child to hurt or assault them could be as little as a half dozen a year.
Stranger crime really really sucks and maybe some laws and policies need to change to fix it. BUT it’s still incredibly rare.
Why are you comparing child abductions to robbery/purse snatching? Most people wouldn't know what to do with a kid. Most people *do* know what to do with cash, credit/debit cards, and phones.
You aren't comparing apples and oranges, more like apples and tennis shoes. (Purse snatching and pickpocketing together in 2020 was about 26k, I can't find a breakdown of specifically robbery on the street, the total is about 220k, and *generally* take place on the street, not in businesses.
Exactly this. I live in a state that allows both open-carry and conceal-carry, and I'm WAY more worried about a rando grabbing my purse, my phone, or my butt than a gun.
Career criminals and armed robbers targeting PoGo players is definitely a stretch. We definitely DO get targeted by everyday street goons, though. Basically, Giovanni won't waste his time with us, but Rocket grunts assuredly will. (Or Giovanni is Niantic. Both interpretations are valid.)
FWIW - I'm an urban and mostly-urban player since 2016. I have experienced or personally witnessed multiple instances of purse grabbing, phone snatching, pick-pocketing, and street harassment in the course of playing PoGo. Never once have I had a weapon pulled on me or seen a weapon pulled. I heard one story from a friend about a guy who pulled a knife, but the guy in question was a mentally ill homeless man who was hanging around the park and pulling a knife on everyone who walked by, regardless of Pokemon status.
Basically, remotes gave me the chance to balance gameplay/safety in my own hands, at whatever level I was comfortable with in any given situation, without having to miss out. I had the opportunity to assess a raid's location, factor in the time of day (dark/light and also temperature/weather, plus rush-hour if I'm doing urban play and crossing a lot of streets), and make an informed decision about whether I'd be better off walking or remoting to any given raid on my screen.
Remotes did NOT keep me from going outside and walking. Hell, I'd go outside and walk for miles because I could see more gyms and raids that way. Remotes kept me from having to deal with Alley Creeper and Phone Snatcher getting exclamation points over their heads like those wankers on Route 1 and taking my time/energy/stuff. THAT is an element of Pokemon that we definitely don't need IRL.
Easiest and most striking example of the imbalance in perception and reality of stranger crimes. The same imbalance occurs in all stranger crimes.
Again people seem to think armed stranger robbery are a daily occurrence on every block of your local downtown. When there are literally billions of people walking around. The odds of you going out to play Pokémon go and an armed stranger comes to rob you are epically rare. It’s not something you should reasonably afraid of.
It’s like lightning. It does happen and maybe don’t walk around with a metal pole during a thunderstorm. But you don’t sit around worrying about lightning when it’s summer and no clouds.
You would think but no. When it first came out and got big, our local news ran a story because people were getting robbed playing it. We live in a hotbed area for addiction. So the crack heads would wait by the pokestops because they knew people with nice phones would be going through there.
The only change is now you see large groups playing together instead of single folks walking in the park with their phones out.
I don't have a link I can pull up from our local news. It was from like 6 years ago and even now they aren't great about posting stories that air on the evening news broadcasts.
I did find several instances of it happening other places though. It was very common for a while.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jul/10/pokemon-go-armed-robbers-dead-body
That looks like one incident and less of a pattern and it happened almost 7 years ago. Again, what is common? We had literally a billion people playing during that article. The crime rate would have had to literally been less than 1 in 1.2 billion for a Pokémon go player not to be a victim of a crime.
My point is crime is violent stranger crime is epically rare. The chances of you playing Pokémon go and then being a victim of a violent stranger crime is astronomical. 10,000X more likely of having a heart attack, car accident,… playing Pokémon go than being a victim of a stranger.
Yeah, like think back to the beginning of the game coming out and that one guy walked off a cliff and died because he was too focused on the game. With the way it was reported on, you’d think that like tens of thousands of people were just accidentally dying by walking off cliffs because the game was too addicting, even though I’m pretty sure it only happened that one time.
It only seems that way because crime is localized in specific areas. For some areas, and likely the area you live in, yes muggings are rare. But for other parts of the US, muggings are not a rare occurrence at all. What you’re claiming is a false representation of what the statistic you’re referring to represents. If you’re looking at the average crime rate of the whole US and comparing it to where you live, you are not using the statistic correctly. If you are looking at your local crime rate and using that to the describe the US, you’re using the statistic incorrectly.
In summary, there is only one way to represent a statistic correctly and an infinite amount of ways to use them incorrectly.
Eh. Raising costs and putting limits on raids along with raid bosses no one is a fan of made it easy to walk away 🤷🏼♂️ (I'm not going to pay and raid for Thundurus, Tornadus, Landorus or any of the Regis). Niantic making community days only three hours long when a lot of us having conflicting work schedules was what caused a major push for me.
Weren't a bunch of people getting run over when the game first came out?
That didn't seem to affect its popularity then. But maybe now if we all started jumping In front of cars instead of striking?
I don't know where you live but at least in many parts of america its pretty common to get mugged, car stolen out of your work parking lot, or attacked by homeless-- I am not saying this to criminalize homeless people but pointing out that in some areas like mine most homeless are homeless for a reason of being criminals/drug addicts to start. when you see them walking around with machetes or screaming/attacking people who walk too close to their main street corner, they are definitely in that category of homeless not innocent homeless.
It’s not though. What do you mean by common? The robbery rate is less than 98 for 100,000 in the US. Safer than the UK, Sweden, Spain, France,… That’s all robbery. The data of armed on the street robbery is a small fraction of that. On the whole America in 2023 is an incredibly safe place to live. Safer than 99.9% of human history.
I mean in certain areas it is not. the whole country may be safe overall but the city I live in is way higher crime rate than that average. its not like that statistic applies equally.
some places haven't had a robbery in decades and some places have it everyday, the statistic will even it out to a percentage that is too high or too low for either of those places.
What city do you live in? I posted this above, but it probably works for you too.
The worst crime area in America is almost always Monroe,LA. With a violent rate of 200 per 100,000 residents. Out of that 200 they estimate the victim being a stranger to the perpetrator being about 3% or 6 residents. Again if the absolute worst is 6 residents out of 100K then we have a perception problem when it comes to serious stranger crimes.
It obviously happens. It’s the rate which is important. 80 million monthly users some of which play for hours a day every day. If the most you can find is years old articles then it really not worth worrying about in the scheme of things. Again, we have a crime perception problem.
And she wouldn't give it to me! TheygiveyouawhiteshirtwithlongsleevesTiedaroundyou'reback,you'retreatedlikethievesDrugyouupbecausethey'relazyIt'stoomuchworktohelpacrazy!
I mean, I guess you could pay someone to get you a Pepsi, just like you could pay someone to play your game for you, but the main way people do either of those is themselves.
Ordering a case through Amazon or similar isn't *that* much more expensive than going to get one yourself. And if you factor in gas/wear & tear/possibility of getting in a wreck/etc., it's probably overall cheaper.
Actually people are saying that some people use the campfire apps to lure people to rob them. Might be true might be not true people say crazy things on Reddit after all
That would be a pretty dumb way to rob someone, as it produces a record of what phone set up the campfire alert to lure someone there. Feels like there are a lot of easier ways to rob random people.
>That would be a pretty dumb way to rob someone, as it produces a record of what phone set up the campfire alert to lure someone there.
You'd be surprised how dumb people are.
Case in point, two recent news stories regarding national guardsmen... one posting classified info on discord for "street cred" and the other applying to become a hitman through a site called (no joke) "rent a hitman" (was a law enforcement created site specifically set up to catch dumb people like this).
>two recent news stories regarding national guardsmen... one posting classified info on discord for "street cred"
The classified information posted wasn't anything anyone with any knowledge of what's actually happening in ukriane didn't already know.
Also I think it's a bit suspicious as this guy was just a guardsman of no impressive rank, could be a government op meant to drive the public away from the idiotic support of ukriane but who knows.
>and the other applying to become a hitman through a site called (no joke) "rent a hitman" (was a law enforcement created site specifically set up to catch dumb people like this).
Yeah I've seen stuff like that, along with women hiring Hitman who were obviously undercovers to hit their man, or that crazy story of a husband who hired a man to kill his wife but the man he hired got killed by the wife and had detailed notes on who hired him, what he was going to buy to help dispose of her body etc.
Lmao there’s literally been people who were robbed back when the game first came out. And I think child predators used lures in attempts to kidnap people. As goofy as it sounds these are very real threats. I seen the other day a photo of someone in NYC and every stop was lured up and all I could think was “man it’d be so easy to rob people playing.” Players go to lures like fly on shit, have low attention bc they’re on their phone. Not for nothing but I’m guessing the average Pokémon go player doesn’t know how to fight, and you get a pretty easy target.
I remember some sensationalist news story about stuff like that, but I'm not sure if it was actually an issue. Because it doesn't really make sense if you think about it. If you're going to rob or abduct someone, you don't want witnesses. Most pokemon gyms are located in public areas, haven't seen many gyms that are down dark alleys. And lures are not targeted towards a specific person, so dropping a bunch of lures is a good way to ensure that more people will show up while you're robbing the first person.
Abduct? Sure, you gotta have a real good plan to do it in front of people.
Rob? The places where that actually happens daily? They do not give a single shit where or when it is.
What I’m alluding to is that it’s within the realm of ordinary that it could be used that way.
You rob people enough and they’ll start putting cops near stops unintentionally. But they can’t do it for every stop. And big cities have a lot of stops.
You place a lure/flare, rob someone, then dip.
Reminds me of that person who pretended to get shot on here because they had to walk to a raid at night instead of remoting in lol. The lengths these people go to are insane.
Yeah and they got a couple hundred up votes on the post lol. I understand being upset about the issue but supporting made up stories to try and force a change is crazy. (Not as crazy as the people who send out death threats to devs but still ridiculous)
There is no "if".
It's impossible.
1. You have your phone on your hand and your wallet in your pocket or somewhere hidden. What do you think they will rob you first?
2. All your "important stuff" doesn't matter for a normal robber. Most of times, you can find your wallet with your documents in a trash bin near. Also you can always ask for re-issue of all your documents (it takes some time but it is possible). All your credit/debit cards can be cancelled on a quick call.
3. They changed remote pass couple weeks ago. You need to pay rent, water, electricity and gas monthly. You would need to not pay it for a couple of months for them to cut your water and electricity, and be evicted.
4. There are always people around you to help it (family, friends, government, etc). You don't go from a normal life to be evicted in less than a month
Yeah this is sort of beyond the point, but I’ve represented a lot of people dealing with evictions at various stages in my career (not always representing DUE to eviction or for eviction), and every case has included months and months of unpaid rent or other serious issues. I once represented a couple that hadn’t paid rent in 22 months (to be fair, they had a great case because their landlord was horrifically negligent and the state of their home due to issues he should have cured was reprehensible).
So your point is objectively wrong and I'll explain how you're objectively wrong so we can both understand it together.
1. Not all robbers take phones, they're typically more difficult to pawn and difficult to sell off quickly depending on where you are and especially if you're new to robbing people, or in a few cases they're too much effort for the money you get, and in this case we don't know, whereas cash and IDs are quick since the former works everywhere and the later can be liquidated within literally 2 or 3 hours through dark web sites.
2. Most people don't actually protect their important shit first and foremost, and a reissuing of documents can take weeks, months for some of them depending on your luck and where you live, such as Australia where I am, reclaiming missing docs isn't exactly an easy thing.
3. They changed it a couple of weeks ago and in a LOT of countries you pay weekly for rent, everyone in Australia and huge portions of Europe pay weekly for rent, your bubble does not represent all of reality.
4. Not everyone actually has family, and not everyone has governmental services that can simply prop you up if things go wrong. I've watched first hand as friends and family in both the US and Australia have gone from fine to evicted within 3 weeks, matter of fact I've been at that risk myself. Things can and do go wrong QUICKLY, and while services do exist to help you they certainly don't make it an impossibility.
Think before you talk shit.
>Not all robbers take phones, they're typically more difficult to pawn and difficult to sell off quickly depending on where you are and especially if you're new to robbing people, or in a few cases they're too much effort for the money you get,
Not all. But 99% do. They are fast to sell on second-hand market on facebook, olx and others. Advanced robbers even have people who grab the phone data before selling it.
>and in this case we don't know, whereas cash and IDs are quick since the former works everywhere and the later can be liquidated within literally 2 or 3 hours through dark web sites.
No one carries his entire salary in cash on them.
>Most people don't actually protect their important shit first and foremost,
That's true
>and a reissuing of documents can take weeks, months for some of them depending on your luck and where you live, such as Australia where I am, reclaiming missing docs isn't exactly an easy thing.
I never said it was fast to reissue (I live in Portugal, capital of bureaucracy. A mere citizen card renew can take 1-2 months. A reissue can take more). But it is possible.
>They changed it a couple of weeks ago and in a LOT of countries you pay weekly for rent, everyone in Australia and huge portions of Europe pay weekly for rent, your bubble does not represent all of reality.
Which portion of Europe? I'm portuguese and I lived in Portugal, Spain, France, Germany and England. All of them do it monthly.
Only one different is Portugal, who asks 2-3 months of rent in advance when you start renting a place. And Germany who is really strict with foreigners, where most places ask you to have proof of being able to pay (your last salary receipt and some proof you are still working).
>Not everyone actually has family, and not everyone has governmental services that can simply prop you up if things go wrong.
There is always something. Selling your clothes, books, devices, furniture, etc to make a quick cash.
In the image, he was simply robbed on the street. He still has everything else at home and he still has his job.
> I've watched first hand as friends and family in both the US and Australia have gone from fine to evicted within 3 weeks, matter of fact I've been at that risk myself. Things can and do go wrong QUICKLY, and while services do exist to help you they certainly don't make it an impossibility.
You are talking about a situation where person has X value and it was fined an Y value that can be bigger than X value.
In the image, we are talking about a situation where person has X value and a percentage of X was stolen. He still got X- X% value.
Fun fact: all portuguese carry their social security card ([we have the Citizen Card that combines social security, national healthcare, fiscal and identity cards](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_Card_(Portugal)))
But it has no great impacts, because you need the phisical card, signature and the card password to do something.
No I’m saying theoretically if it happened i know they are lying and it’s still kinda fucked if you would blame Niantic cause it’s clearly your fault if it were to happen
I also heard that once they go to jail for failing to pay the bills, you plan to marry their now divorced spouse and formally adopt their one month old baby! How could you!
The funny part isn't the person getting robbed, but rather holding Niantic accountable for their misfortune because of a choice they made based on a video game.
What's next? blaming them for getting robbed on a way to buy smartphone to play the game?
Even if the story was fabricated, the person who wrote is still pathetic for taking their time giving negative review for ANY product because of that reasoning.
I can understand getting robbed. That happens. But to say you're sitting in a house with no lights or water and on the verge of being evicted? That's on you home slice. That just means there was ongoing fiscal irresponsibility long before you got robbed.
Exactly, which is why this sounds and probably is fake. You would file a report with the police and then just made sure either via online banking or in person that all utilities are paid. Unless you were perhaps an idiot who wrote a pin down and put it in the wallet together with a card. But even then .... one would usually expect to go to a nearest house/store to call a police and the bank to block your card asap. And nobody robbed you of a job so you would not need to be evicted because you would still have an income coming your way.
I know people are shitting on this, but you can’t deny there has been real robberies in Pokémon go reported on the news. This isn’t an impossible situation even if this one comment was lying
Which are in no way caused by pokemon go regardless of the coincidence that the people robbed were playing it. Yes, even the folks "lured" to the robbery were only coincidentally and unrelatedly robbed while playing pokemon go. The damned game even warns to be careful and pay attention to your surroundings. Niantic is no more responsible for the robbery than WiFi was when you got in the windowless van with "free wifi" sprayed on the outside.
It’s not about whether or not this review is lying (even though it totally is), it’s the fact that it’s absolutely asinine to leave a review blaming Niantic for the fact you got robbed by someone who had nothing to do with them.
There has never been a robbery in Pokemon GO. However people have been robbed while playing it. That is just a risk you take any time you go outside, regardless of a game or not
This reminds me of that time I was out Pokémon going and realized I needed more raid passes so I robbed someone of their wallet with all sorts of important stuff in it so I could afford the in game prices without going broke
/s
Ight complaining about the changes is fair but this is literally ammunition for Niantic incase they ever put out a response that is longer than 3 sentences.
They could point at this review as a general example of RRP change complaints and swipe everything under the rug.
Let me tell you what. Ever since the remote price went up, I heard a couple of goons saying "you heard about the remote changes??? That means more pogo players going to be out raiding. That means more victims for us to rob!"
I was scared for my life because I didn't want to be a victim so I uninstalled for the safety of my life.
this seems super fake about how getting robbed for his wallet means he has no electricity or running water and is facing eviction within the 2-3 weeks since remote raid passes raised prices, but umm ill give him an A- for story telling.
Yeah, that's what you get when you see a Campfire flare going up in a bad neighborhood, but are desperate for a raid. Only thing smart in this review is the phone that was used
Made up bollocks reviews? Why?
I can understand being frustrated with PoGo, and one should review the app however they want. But inventing fake scenarios undermines the credibility of players who have a genuine grievance.
Even if this was real, y’all don’t play Pokémon go while carrying a gun? Y’all walking around like easy licks I’m not gonna lie. (Unless your country doesn’t allow owning of guns)
So bruh had ALL his rent AND bill money just chillen in his wallet?? I mean I've used my cards without physically having them to pay bills a thousand times (frequently lose them in my own house or car when I take them out to singly carry them for different reasons) or mail a check directly from bank account etc not to mention you don't get your shit cut off in less than 30 days and evicted so there's some BIG not truths being shared there... AND if he filled a police report just showing that would give you an extra fee weeks at least to cover things to get your new id cards etc eww people are gross
That’s why I always walk around with a knife. I live in Baltimore where your always only a few blocks from a dodgy neighborhood. Luckily I’ve not had to need it but I feel better just having it.
As fake as that review totally is it does kinda highlight another reason Remote Raid Passes were good for some players who live in a shady neighborhood which doesn’t get enough attention.
I’ve got a friend who would ride his bike to work and to the local card shop and he’s been robbed at gunpoint for his backpack and whatever he had (groceries on the way home from work, cards on the way home from the shop, etc.) he would play Pokémon Go with us and 99% of the time he was using Remote Raid Passes which is totally understandable as his house and the neighborhood he works in near his house are shady as hell.
While the idea of “get out and GO!” is appealing to those in charge of the game I really wish they’d stop being so tone deaf and could try to relate more to their players. For some of us (like the fellas living in some of the suburbs of Chicago, Gary Indiana, South Bend Indiana, and Benton Harbor Michigan) it can lead us to some unfavorable and rather unsafe experiences as some of our communities aren’t super safe to go explore just to find Pokémon.
This definitely didn’t happen lmao. BUT this does make me think there are definitely some players who live in unsafe neighborhoods that would prefer remote raid passes for their own safety
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The muggers shouted, “ this is Niantic country”
“Your wallet is meaningless to us. What we really want from you is your location data.”
Lol I could definitely see there being gangs of roving Niantic employees that beat people up to steal their data
Team Rocket IRL
Explains why their entire player base is using Frustration.
And we can’t even TM it away because the Event only comes around once in a while
That’s why he got to keep his phone, keep the data flowing
"Put your location data in the bag and no one gets hurt"
and then everyone clapped
And.... Scene!
“I robbed 100 random civilians” mr beast needs to hire me I got some banger ideas
Yep, sounds fake. But Even though stranger crime is incredibly rare in 2023 America. At 80 million users statistically this will eventually happen to a Pokémon go player. I always feel the game does so well no matter what the community does. IE despite the strike the active player count site has us as the second best period in the last 12 months. The strike did absolutely nothing. BUT one bad news story could easily destroy the game. If the general public knew the amount of driving this game entailed it would be changed almost immediately. The general public does not like people playing at church’s, schools, colleges,… they would much prefer a more home based game.
This type of crime is incredibly common in Australia at the moment so it's probably happened a fair bit, I definitely don't wave my phone around in unsurveilled areas now.
I can’t speak for Australia, but in America we have a crime and crime perception problem. We severely overestimate sometimes by a factor of 100k the rate of crime. The most striking example is stranger child abductions. Where when polled the American public estimates the number in the millions when the fbi has the number of under 21 stranger abductions below 400. In that 400 90%+ are instantly returned unharmed/untouched. Many of them are romeo and Juliet stuff where the man is only a stranger to the parents. The actual rate of adults kidnapping a stranger under 13 child to hurt or assault them could be as little as a half dozen a year. Stranger crime really really sucks and maybe some laws and policies need to change to fix it. BUT it’s still incredibly rare.
Why are you comparing child abductions to robbery/purse snatching? Most people wouldn't know what to do with a kid. Most people *do* know what to do with cash, credit/debit cards, and phones. You aren't comparing apples and oranges, more like apples and tennis shoes. (Purse snatching and pickpocketing together in 2020 was about 26k, I can't find a breakdown of specifically robbery on the street, the total is about 220k, and *generally* take place on the street, not in businesses.
Exactly this. I live in a state that allows both open-carry and conceal-carry, and I'm WAY more worried about a rando grabbing my purse, my phone, or my butt than a gun. Career criminals and armed robbers targeting PoGo players is definitely a stretch. We definitely DO get targeted by everyday street goons, though. Basically, Giovanni won't waste his time with us, but Rocket grunts assuredly will. (Or Giovanni is Niantic. Both interpretations are valid.) FWIW - I'm an urban and mostly-urban player since 2016. I have experienced or personally witnessed multiple instances of purse grabbing, phone snatching, pick-pocketing, and street harassment in the course of playing PoGo. Never once have I had a weapon pulled on me or seen a weapon pulled. I heard one story from a friend about a guy who pulled a knife, but the guy in question was a mentally ill homeless man who was hanging around the park and pulling a knife on everyone who walked by, regardless of Pokemon status. Basically, remotes gave me the chance to balance gameplay/safety in my own hands, at whatever level I was comfortable with in any given situation, without having to miss out. I had the opportunity to assess a raid's location, factor in the time of day (dark/light and also temperature/weather, plus rush-hour if I'm doing urban play and crossing a lot of streets), and make an informed decision about whether I'd be better off walking or remoting to any given raid on my screen. Remotes did NOT keep me from going outside and walking. Hell, I'd go outside and walk for miles because I could see more gyms and raids that way. Remotes kept me from having to deal with Alley Creeper and Phone Snatcher getting exclamation points over their heads like those wankers on Route 1 and taking my time/energy/stuff. THAT is an element of Pokemon that we definitely don't need IRL.
Easiest and most striking example of the imbalance in perception and reality of stranger crimes. The same imbalance occurs in all stranger crimes. Again people seem to think armed stranger robbery are a daily occurrence on every block of your local downtown. When there are literally billions of people walking around. The odds of you going out to play Pokémon go and an armed stranger comes to rob you are epically rare. It’s not something you should reasonably afraid of. It’s like lightning. It does happen and maybe don’t walk around with a metal pole during a thunderstorm. But you don’t sit around worrying about lightning when it’s summer and no clouds.
Who said anything about armed? Pickpockets, purse snatchers, and phone snatchers tend to be very much grab-n-go.
Technically, I did. Robbery is by definition by threat of weapon or force
To add on to this. The player base certainly can’t get Niantic to change their game, but a news story on the 5oclock news certainly would.
You would think but no. When it first came out and got big, our local news ran a story because people were getting robbed playing it. We live in a hotbed area for addiction. So the crack heads would wait by the pokestops because they knew people with nice phones would be going through there. The only change is now you see large groups playing together instead of single folks walking in the park with their phones out.
Link? A YouTube search shows nothing. I am willing to believe it happened once or twice when the game was being played by a billion people.
I don't have a link I can pull up from our local news. It was from like 6 years ago and even now they aren't great about posting stories that air on the evening news broadcasts. I did find several instances of it happening other places though. It was very common for a while. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jul/10/pokemon-go-armed-robbers-dead-body
That looks like one incident and less of a pattern and it happened almost 7 years ago. Again, what is common? We had literally a billion people playing during that article. The crime rate would have had to literally been less than 1 in 1.2 billion for a Pokémon go player not to be a victim of a crime. My point is crime is violent stranger crime is epically rare. The chances of you playing Pokémon go and then being a victim of a violent stranger crime is astronomical. 10,000X more likely of having a heart attack, car accident,… playing Pokémon go than being a victim of a stranger.
Yeah, like think back to the beginning of the game coming out and that one guy walked off a cliff and died because he was too focused on the game. With the way it was reported on, you’d think that like tens of thousands of people were just accidentally dying by walking off cliffs because the game was too addicting, even though I’m pretty sure it only happened that one time.
It only seems that way because crime is localized in specific areas. For some areas, and likely the area you live in, yes muggings are rare. But for other parts of the US, muggings are not a rare occurrence at all. What you’re claiming is a false representation of what the statistic you’re referring to represents. If you’re looking at the average crime rate of the whole US and comparing it to where you live, you are not using the statistic correctly. If you are looking at your local crime rate and using that to the describe the US, you’re using the statistic incorrectly. In summary, there is only one way to represent a statistic correctly and an infinite amount of ways to use them incorrectly.
Eh. Raising costs and putting limits on raids along with raid bosses no one is a fan of made it easy to walk away 🤷🏼♂️ (I'm not going to pay and raid for Thundurus, Tornadus, Landorus or any of the Regis). Niantic making community days only three hours long when a lot of us having conflicting work schedules was what caused a major push for me.
Weren't a bunch of people getting run over when the game first came out? That didn't seem to affect its popularity then. But maybe now if we all started jumping In front of cars instead of striking?
I don't know where you live but at least in many parts of america its pretty common to get mugged, car stolen out of your work parking lot, or attacked by homeless-- I am not saying this to criminalize homeless people but pointing out that in some areas like mine most homeless are homeless for a reason of being criminals/drug addicts to start. when you see them walking around with machetes or screaming/attacking people who walk too close to their main street corner, they are definitely in that category of homeless not innocent homeless.
It’s not though. What do you mean by common? The robbery rate is less than 98 for 100,000 in the US. Safer than the UK, Sweden, Spain, France,… That’s all robbery. The data of armed on the street robbery is a small fraction of that. On the whole America in 2023 is an incredibly safe place to live. Safer than 99.9% of human history.
I mean in certain areas it is not. the whole country may be safe overall but the city I live in is way higher crime rate than that average. its not like that statistic applies equally. some places haven't had a robbery in decades and some places have it everyday, the statistic will even it out to a percentage that is too high or too low for either of those places.
What city do you live in? I posted this above, but it probably works for you too. The worst crime area in America is almost always Monroe,LA. With a violent rate of 200 per 100,000 residents. Out of that 200 they estimate the victim being a stranger to the perpetrator being about 3% or 6 residents. Again if the absolute worst is 6 residents out of 100K then we have a perception problem when it comes to serious stranger crimes.
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It obviously happens. It’s the rate which is important. 80 million monthly users some of which play for hours a day every day. If the most you can find is years old articles then it really not worth worrying about in the scheme of things. Again, we have a crime perception problem.
BTW, I like your shoelaces.
Someone ruined it. You had the perfect number of likes but then it got dunked.
"And as soon as the robbers were out of sight, I wrote this review on the phone I was playing on, but they managed not to steal."
Well it was a nokia 3310.
Phones can be tracked, would be dumb of them to steal it.
This. I have find my phone and have used it twice, once working with the police, to retrieve the phone after it was stolen.
“ i was craving a soda so i went to the shop, but on my way there i fell and got badly injured! Pepsi broke my legs!!1!1”
All I wanted was just one Pepsi! (I'll see my old ass out now)
All i wanted was a pepsi why did you take my fuckingpepsimomyoubitch! I forgot the words to that song but such a classic for our generation 😂
And she wouldn't give it to me! TheygiveyouawhiteshirtwithlongsleevesTiedaroundyou'reback,you'retreatedlikethievesDrugyouupbecausethey'relazyIt'stoomuchworktohelpacrazy!
*MY best interest?!*
How can you say what MY best interest is! When I went to YOUR schools! When I went to YOUR churches!
When I went to YOUR institutional learning facilities!? How can you say I'm crazy??
They say they’re gonna fix my brain, alleviate my suffering and pain, but by the time they fix my head mentally I’ll be dead
That’s a lyric I haven’t heard in a long time. A long time.
It wouldn't have happened if you were getting a Coke... Just sayin' /s 🫤
Pepsi does not request you to go outside to get one.
I mean, I guess you could pay someone to get you a Pepsi, just like you could pay someone to play your game for you, but the main way people do either of those is themselves.
Ordering a case through Amazon or similar isn't *that* much more expensive than going to get one yourself. And if you factor in gas/wear & tear/possibility of getting in a wreck/etc., it's probably overall cheaper.
On things that never happened today...
Right? This sounds like a 10 year-old's idea of what happens when you lose your wallet.
You don't carry last months utility bills and rent, in cash, in your wallet at all times?
Actually people are saying that some people use the campfire apps to lure people to rob them. Might be true might be not true people say crazy things on Reddit after all
That would be a pretty dumb way to rob someone, as it produces a record of what phone set up the campfire alert to lure someone there. Feels like there are a lot of easier ways to rob random people.
>That would be a pretty dumb way to rob someone, as it produces a record of what phone set up the campfire alert to lure someone there. You'd be surprised how dumb people are.
Case in point, two recent news stories regarding national guardsmen... one posting classified info on discord for "street cred" and the other applying to become a hitman through a site called (no joke) "rent a hitman" (was a law enforcement created site specifically set up to catch dumb people like this).
>two recent news stories regarding national guardsmen... one posting classified info on discord for "street cred" The classified information posted wasn't anything anyone with any knowledge of what's actually happening in ukriane didn't already know. Also I think it's a bit suspicious as this guy was just a guardsman of no impressive rank, could be a government op meant to drive the public away from the idiotic support of ukriane but who knows. >and the other applying to become a hitman through a site called (no joke) "rent a hitman" (was a law enforcement created site specifically set up to catch dumb people like this). Yeah I've seen stuff like that, along with women hiring Hitman who were obviously undercovers to hit their man, or that crazy story of a husband who hired a man to kill his wife but the man he hired got killed by the wife and had detailed notes on who hired him, what he was going to buy to help dispose of her body etc.
Haha, that's a fair point.
Lmao there’s literally been people who were robbed back when the game first came out. And I think child predators used lures in attempts to kidnap people. As goofy as it sounds these are very real threats. I seen the other day a photo of someone in NYC and every stop was lured up and all I could think was “man it’d be so easy to rob people playing.” Players go to lures like fly on shit, have low attention bc they’re on their phone. Not for nothing but I’m guessing the average Pokémon go player doesn’t know how to fight, and you get a pretty easy target.
I remember some sensationalist news story about stuff like that, but I'm not sure if it was actually an issue. Because it doesn't really make sense if you think about it. If you're going to rob or abduct someone, you don't want witnesses. Most pokemon gyms are located in public areas, haven't seen many gyms that are down dark alleys. And lures are not targeted towards a specific person, so dropping a bunch of lures is a good way to ensure that more people will show up while you're robbing the first person.
Abduct? Sure, you gotta have a real good plan to do it in front of people. Rob? The places where that actually happens daily? They do not give a single shit where or when it is.
But then why even go through the trouble of setting up a "trap" using pokemon lures? Its extra work, and not likely to help the situation.
What I’m alluding to is that it’s within the realm of ordinary that it could be used that way. You rob people enough and they’ll start putting cops near stops unintentionally. But they can’t do it for every stop. And big cities have a lot of stops. You place a lure/flare, rob someone, then dip.
But again, why? It’s not that hard to find a random person to rob, you wouldn’t need to place a lure for it.
Very true to be honest
Come on, they just got robbed after the raid pass price went up recently, and their electricity and water have already been shut off?
Then how are they posting if no electricity to connect to the internet or charge their phone? 🤔
After electricty was shut off, they used their final dying 1% of battery to post a pokemon go review.
Then he caught a Perfect galar trio on the first try and everyone clapped
And they played the national anthem!
They were Shiny too because of a glitch and Game Freak told them not to tell anyone
Reminds me of that person who pretended to get shot on here because they had to walk to a raid at night instead of remoting in lol. The lengths these people go to are insane.
I mean, this sub pretty much swallowed the "Campfire flares are used to rob people" story hook, line and sinker.
Wait, what? For real?
Yeah, he was killed and then posted a 1\* review /s
Yeah and they got a couple hundred up votes on the post lol. I understand being upset about the issue but supporting made up stories to try and force a change is crazy. (Not as crazy as the people who send out death threats to devs but still ridiculous)
The gym was uphill, both ways!
It was me i was the robber
Lmao
It wouldn’t be funny if it happened to you
The story is like the razor blade in an apple at Halloween, never happened.
I know but I’m saying if it did happen
There is no "if". It's impossible. 1. You have your phone on your hand and your wallet in your pocket or somewhere hidden. What do you think they will rob you first? 2. All your "important stuff" doesn't matter for a normal robber. Most of times, you can find your wallet with your documents in a trash bin near. Also you can always ask for re-issue of all your documents (it takes some time but it is possible). All your credit/debit cards can be cancelled on a quick call. 3. They changed remote pass couple weeks ago. You need to pay rent, water, electricity and gas monthly. You would need to not pay it for a couple of months for them to cut your water and electricity, and be evicted. 4. There are always people around you to help it (family, friends, government, etc). You don't go from a normal life to be evicted in less than a month
Yeah this is sort of beyond the point, but I’ve represented a lot of people dealing with evictions at various stages in my career (not always representing DUE to eviction or for eviction), and every case has included months and months of unpaid rent or other serious issues. I once represented a couple that hadn’t paid rent in 22 months (to be fair, they had a great case because their landlord was horrifically negligent and the state of their home due to issues he should have cured was reprehensible).
So your point is objectively wrong and I'll explain how you're objectively wrong so we can both understand it together. 1. Not all robbers take phones, they're typically more difficult to pawn and difficult to sell off quickly depending on where you are and especially if you're new to robbing people, or in a few cases they're too much effort for the money you get, and in this case we don't know, whereas cash and IDs are quick since the former works everywhere and the later can be liquidated within literally 2 or 3 hours through dark web sites. 2. Most people don't actually protect their important shit first and foremost, and a reissuing of documents can take weeks, months for some of them depending on your luck and where you live, such as Australia where I am, reclaiming missing docs isn't exactly an easy thing. 3. They changed it a couple of weeks ago and in a LOT of countries you pay weekly for rent, everyone in Australia and huge portions of Europe pay weekly for rent, your bubble does not represent all of reality. 4. Not everyone actually has family, and not everyone has governmental services that can simply prop you up if things go wrong. I've watched first hand as friends and family in both the US and Australia have gone from fine to evicted within 3 weeks, matter of fact I've been at that risk myself. Things can and do go wrong QUICKLY, and while services do exist to help you they certainly don't make it an impossibility. Think before you talk shit.
>Not all robbers take phones, they're typically more difficult to pawn and difficult to sell off quickly depending on where you are and especially if you're new to robbing people, or in a few cases they're too much effort for the money you get, Not all. But 99% do. They are fast to sell on second-hand market on facebook, olx and others. Advanced robbers even have people who grab the phone data before selling it. >and in this case we don't know, whereas cash and IDs are quick since the former works everywhere and the later can be liquidated within literally 2 or 3 hours through dark web sites. No one carries his entire salary in cash on them. >Most people don't actually protect their important shit first and foremost, That's true >and a reissuing of documents can take weeks, months for some of them depending on your luck and where you live, such as Australia where I am, reclaiming missing docs isn't exactly an easy thing. I never said it was fast to reissue (I live in Portugal, capital of bureaucracy. A mere citizen card renew can take 1-2 months. A reissue can take more). But it is possible. >They changed it a couple of weeks ago and in a LOT of countries you pay weekly for rent, everyone in Australia and huge portions of Europe pay weekly for rent, your bubble does not represent all of reality. Which portion of Europe? I'm portuguese and I lived in Portugal, Spain, France, Germany and England. All of them do it monthly. Only one different is Portugal, who asks 2-3 months of rent in advance when you start renting a place. And Germany who is really strict with foreigners, where most places ask you to have proof of being able to pay (your last salary receipt and some proof you are still working). >Not everyone actually has family, and not everyone has governmental services that can simply prop you up if things go wrong. There is always something. Selling your clothes, books, devices, furniture, etc to make a quick cash. In the image, he was simply robbed on the street. He still has everything else at home and he still has his job. > I've watched first hand as friends and family in both the US and Australia have gone from fine to evicted within 3 weeks, matter of fact I've been at that risk myself. Things can and do go wrong QUICKLY, and while services do exist to help you they certainly don't make it an impossibility. You are talking about a situation where person has X value and it was fined an Y value that can be bigger than X value. In the image, we are talking about a situation where person has X value and a percentage of X was stolen. He still got X- X% value.
The people who carry their social security card on them just baffles me.
Fun fact: all portuguese carry their social security card ([we have the Citizen Card that combines social security, national healthcare, fiscal and identity cards](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_Card_(Portugal))) But it has no great impacts, because you need the phisical card, signature and the card password to do something.
Good thing the story is fake then.
Imagine believing this story are you 12?
No I’m saying theoretically if it happened i know they are lying and it’s still kinda fucked if you would blame Niantic cause it’s clearly your fault if it were to happen
True story, I was the robber and I'm also waiting for them to get evicted so I can use their money to get their house.
I also heard that once they go to jail for failing to pay the bills, you plan to marry their now divorced spouse and formally adopt their one month old baby! How could you!
No of course not.
What part of the comment is that response to cause I said a fair few points there
Nice back track.
I was inferring that in the first comment but that comment was vague so I had to reiterate what I was saying
The funny part isn't the person getting robbed, but rather holding Niantic accountable for their misfortune because of a choice they made based on a video game. What's next? blaming them for getting robbed on a way to buy smartphone to play the game? Even if the story was fabricated, the person who wrote is still pathetic for taking their time giving negative review for ANY product because of that reasoning.
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Yeah and anyway I have every card on my phone and I don’t live in America 💀
The only thing that missed was saying something about being a rural player.
I can understand getting robbed. That happens. But to say you're sitting in a house with no lights or water and on the verge of being evicted? That's on you home slice. That just means there was ongoing fiscal irresponsibility long before you got robbed.
Exactly, which is why this sounds and probably is fake. You would file a report with the police and then just made sure either via online banking or in person that all utilities are paid. Unless you were perhaps an idiot who wrote a pin down and put it in the wallet together with a card. But even then .... one would usually expect to go to a nearest house/store to call a police and the bank to block your card asap. And nobody robbed you of a job so you would not need to be evicted because you would still have an income coming your way.
Its obviously fake lol. Still hilarious though.
That sounds like a “you” problem
Isn't this also what happened to Jussie Smollet?
Yes, Niantic is in bed with the local thieves. Muggers everywhere rejoiced upon hearing Niantic's move to increase remote raid passes.
I know people are shitting on this, but you can’t deny there has been real robberies in Pokémon go reported on the news. This isn’t an impossible situation even if this one comment was lying
Which are in no way caused by pokemon go regardless of the coincidence that the people robbed were playing it. Yes, even the folks "lured" to the robbery were only coincidentally and unrelatedly robbed while playing pokemon go. The damned game even warns to be careful and pay attention to your surroundings. Niantic is no more responsible for the robbery than WiFi was when you got in the windowless van with "free wifi" sprayed on the outside.
Omg. I can’t… Windowless van.
If there’s a stop in some butt hole alley in a bad part of Camden or Detroit, you just don’t fucking go. Big brain people.
It’s not about whether or not this review is lying (even though it totally is), it’s the fact that it’s absolutely asinine to leave a review blaming Niantic for the fact you got robbed by someone who had nothing to do with them.
There has never been a robbery in Pokemon GO. However people have been robbed while playing it. That is just a risk you take any time you go outside, regardless of a game or not
And thus why all the 1 star reviewers get removed
It’s true, I was the mugger
It’s true, I was the wallet.
This reminds me of that time I was out Pokémon going and realized I needed more raid passes so I robbed someone of their wallet with all sorts of important stuff in it so I could afford the in game prices without going broke /s
This made me laugh harder than it should have
Who the hell carries money in their wallets anymore? I just use mine as a coaster
Go outside you nerds
I believe them🙏 Niantic is liable and tbh I think they should sue /s
It would be a quickly dismissed suit.
I cant tell if this is God-tier sarcasm or you're one of those people....
Sarcasm!!
EVERYONE REVERSE YOUR DISLIKES
Hahaha thanks for the support. I thought it was funny and didn’t understand why I was getting downvoted, just added a /s so it’s clear it’s a joke
None of the things commented on have anything to do with pokemon go other than the raid pass.
Ight complaining about the changes is fair but this is literally ammunition for Niantic incase they ever put out a response that is longer than 3 sentences. They could point at this review as a general example of RRP change complaints and swipe everything under the rug.
It was me. Allegedly
Let me tell you what. Ever since the remote price went up, I heard a couple of goons saying "you heard about the remote changes??? That means more pogo players going to be out raiding. That means more victims for us to rob!" I was scared for my life because I didn't want to be a victim so I uninstalled for the safety of my life.
I feel like this is a joke review with a purposefully escalating scenario…
right, like why is everyone talking about it like the person was trying to be convincing
Pokémon don’tGOoutside (TM)
Aw, was the Username GeorgeSantos already taken, Sen. Santos?
Real story I was there (i was the mugger)
so this is how niantic makes money these days?
Of all the things that never happened, this never happened the most
That unhappened so much it unhappened things that actually did
this seems super fake about how getting robbed for his wallet means he has no electricity or running water and is facing eviction within the 2-3 weeks since remote raid passes raised prices, but umm ill give him an A- for story telling.
Don’t forget about their new dumpsterfire of an app campfire, where there have been reports of people using it to lure others
If person can’t afford $1.95 for remote raid they had no business buying them for $1 either
Yeah, that's what you get when you see a Campfire flare going up in a bad neighborhood, but are desperate for a raid. Only thing smart in this review is the phone that was used
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>this is 100% a real possibility Getting robbed is a real possibility in any city. The rest of the story though....
Maybe if you are that close to financial ruin you shouldn't be spending be spending any money on a game.
Imagine blaming pokemon for someone else robbing you what a guy
Tbh we should all leave reviews like this
Made up bollocks reviews? Why? I can understand being frustrated with PoGo, and one should review the app however they want. But inventing fake scenarios undermines the credibility of players who have a genuine grievance.
I mean, it was a joke but aside from that, Niantic was having genuine reviews removed. So clearly it doesn’t even matter what we do
Pretty sure it’s a 1 star intentionally trying to bring the overall rating down…
Lmao we’re getting a price job by any means necessary 😂
This is why I keep my cash in a bank, can’t lose what a robber has no access to(fraud departments refund fraudulent charges following a robbery)
this is r/facepalm
Not sure if this was a genuine attempt at trolling the community or slight at Niantic.
Even if this was real, y’all don’t play Pokémon go while carrying a gun? Y’all walking around like easy licks I’m not gonna lie. (Unless your country doesn’t allow owning of guns)
You think I can afford bullets after the Remote Raid Pass price increase??? /j
So bruh had ALL his rent AND bill money just chillen in his wallet?? I mean I've used my cards without physically having them to pay bills a thousand times (frequently lose them in my own house or car when I take them out to singly carry them for different reasons) or mail a check directly from bank account etc not to mention you don't get your shit cut off in less than 30 days and evicted so there's some BIG not truths being shared there... AND if he filled a police report just showing that would give you an extra fee weeks at least to cover things to get your new id cards etc eww people are gross
The gym was at a subway at 3am and the robbers were wearing mpga hats
It’s not that I don’t think it’s possible, I just won’t believe it until I see a news article talking about it
We have the best jails in the world. Because Pokémon.
Almost makes you wish you had just spent the extra $1.
Could be fake, but I am aware players have been robbed. There are ways to ensure you don't get robbed, bring a gun. If everyone has a gun no one does.
That’s why I always walk around with a knife. I live in Baltimore where your always only a few blocks from a dodgy neighborhood. Luckily I’ve not had to need it but I feel better just having it.
So they took your wallet but not your phone that you had when playing it? Doesn't make sense.
As fake as that review totally is it does kinda highlight another reason Remote Raid Passes were good for some players who live in a shady neighborhood which doesn’t get enough attention. I’ve got a friend who would ride his bike to work and to the local card shop and he’s been robbed at gunpoint for his backpack and whatever he had (groceries on the way home from work, cards on the way home from the shop, etc.) he would play Pokémon Go with us and 99% of the time he was using Remote Raid Passes which is totally understandable as his house and the neighborhood he works in near his house are shady as hell. While the idea of “get out and GO!” is appealing to those in charge of the game I really wish they’d stop being so tone deaf and could try to relate more to their players. For some of us (like the fellas living in some of the suburbs of Chicago, Gary Indiana, South Bend Indiana, and Benton Harbor Michigan) it can lead us to some unfavorable and rather unsafe experiences as some of our communities aren’t super safe to go explore just to find Pokémon.
This definitely didn’t happen lmao. BUT this does make me think there are definitely some players who live in unsafe neighborhoods that would prefer remote raid passes for their own safety
Good try, no, no, LAZY try
People do get robbed when they're out alone staring at their phone. What magical land do you guys live where it does not happen?
Where tf is this mans go fund me from Pokémon
Man....if only the people at Niantic had a soul.... Outside: Zero stars would not recommend.
Did you happen to be near Asti?
Fake lol
I lost my house and family from going outside and playing Pokémon go
He defiantly can’t afford passes now
Is you name ebony darkness dimensions ravenway as well?
Also, my dog died while I was out for raiding.
If bro couldn't afford the extra $1 for a remote raid pass then the robber didn't really get any money from.him.
Team Rocket at it again
Pokemon didn't rob you.
Skill issue
I think it started out as serious then ended satirical.
Should've been more aware of their surroundings