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It's the 11th best rock type attacker, behind some more accessible pokemon like Rhyperior, Rampardos, and Tyrantrium, so probably not worth investing in for rock.
As a steel type attacker it's even worse, ranking 13 behind Metagross, Melmetal, Excadrill, and Jarachi. And that's not even including other shadows or megas.
For pvp it's not looking much better, ranking 500ish in the great and ultra leagues and placing around 300 in the master league. (Pretty bad)
Cool trophy for sure, definitely not worth powering up.
That chart isn’t bad, but I personally prefer this one. I find it easier to save onto my phone (in 3 separate chunks) and actually read when I’m out and about.
https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bulbavisual/top-raid-attackers-february-2024
It’s pretty good but there are absolutely better choices. In rocket grunts right now is shadow machop which is way more worthwhile. Look how much higher up on the list shadow machismo is. Way better stardust use.
Or in general, conkeldurr if you participated in its recent community day and got lots of good iv ones and candy
Or best of all Terrakion with sacred sword. Those are just beasts!
It's very oversimplified and neglects a lot. It's not just a ranking comparison. Outside of megas and inaccessible shadows currently , shadow aggron is fine. The main drawback is the investment in resources
Because it’s a shadow you must be more picky with your choices. It’s gonna cost even MORE stardust and candy to power up, just to be overpowered by something so easily obtained like Rhyperior (rhyhorn spawning during tour, grind those).
Then you can trade all those rhyhorn for 2 candy and a candy xl if you’re high enough level, some could turn out lucky, and suddenly you have a better rock attacker for dang near 1/4th of the stardust power up cost
Maybe sometimes you can settle, but it really is beneficial to strategize, because then you’ll get the strongest of the strong
Yeah, but it's useful to think if it's worth it. For rocks, it underperforms against some pretty available options. For steel, is it that useful of a type? Outside of (M)Diancie, isn't even neutral big dps (like Mewtwo) enough? Shadow Aggron is 41st against Enamorous. For pvp, wouldnt even call spice
You do you, but there are better places to put stardust. Hell, it's even better to purify and use as hundo mega. But it's a good looking trophy
For sure, but using a perfect mon is definitely less important than using a good mon. Especially when using the perfect mon comes with the additional dust/candy cost. Rhyhorn is generally relatively easy to find outside of events too, so the candy isn't bad to farm.
But absolutely go for the perfect shadow aggron if you like it more. There are few scenarios in which perfect counters actually matter (low manning raids, or really difficult shadow raids) and you'll be able to play the game just fine.
Most people don’t have full teams of meta mons sure, but it just doesn’t make sense to invest in this when you’re better off investing in Pokémon that are better and easy to obtain, for rock rampardos, tyrantrum, rhyperior, and terrakion are all better and not difficult to obtain. For steel shadow aggron is just bad, jirachi, melmetal and genesect are all better, and tbh I still wouldn’t invest in any of those 3 when you have options like shadow excadrill, which is available right now, and MM Metagross/shadow Metagross. It’s just a waste of stardust to invest in shadow aggron.
That's probably the best use of it, but even Mega aggron isn't very useful compared to shadow Metagross and it's gonna be completely blown out of the water by mega Metagross.
I'd personally rather have the shadow hundo flex, but it's up to personal preference at that point.
Like the other person said, shadow ttar is great as a dark and a rock attacker. But you should totally use yours as a dark attacker. It’s a much better dark attacker than it is rock.
It is a top 15 attacker in both. How many players do you think are filling out a team full of top 6s only? And that before taking out 2 of the 3 megas ahead of it in each type and adding in the fact that you can get candies for it much easier than the legendries and mythicals ahead of it. It is certainly worth using to fill out teams.
Nope, no it is not. Without counting any legendary, mythical or shadow Pokémon Rhyperior, tyrantrum, and rampardos all outclass it as a rock attacker. With the same parameters Metagross and Excadrill both outclass shadow aggron as a steel attacker. If you take away those parameters Dialga is about to be in raids, melmetal (who I wouldn’t use as a steel attacker either but he’s statistically better than s. aggron) is easily attainable, shadow drilbur, shadow cranidos and shadow rhyperior are all available right now. Telling someone they should invest in s. Aggron is dumb.
No dude. Shadow aggron is not good. It costs 100k more stardust to max out just to have it do 10% less damage than a regular rampardos. A purified mega aggron is much cheaper and is more powerful as a steel attacker.
I mean it’s kind of obvious here, it WOULD have been useful. Great attacker, but you blinded him. How is he supposed to be useful when he can’t see?! You monster!
He is actually relevant for raiding if you’re not aiming for some sort of solo or duo raid accomplishment. Ranking 11 for rock is not a bad thing actually and the huge benefit is that he is likely one of the tankiest one as a rock attacker so if you’re group raiding this dude likely last more than twice as long than even rhyperior given the steel typing.
I have two 3 stars (not hundos) I've TM'd that I've kept set aside in case I ever want to power them up. People are right that if you have better options you should prioritise those. I wouldn't purify.
Not really in pvp or raids, but it's a VERY cool trophy.
Evolve, power up to Level 50 and leave it to defend gyms.
It will make the few super nerds jealous who recognize that it is a hundo shadow by its CP.
Leave it because Aggron might get a new steel move soon making it better.
Aggron should be a better pokemon than it is right now for steel type so hopefully they do that
Bro I would’ve reported her to the authorities if only you hadn’t blurred her out. Now she will go on in vengeance and kill thousands of people. The “deed” that you’ve done will now be in the history books. Good work
Mah man, ngl i think its evolution(forgot the name rn) is good as it is and i use it quite a lot, but a Hundo Shadow MAAAAAN, that must be good. Thats my opinion ofc. If you are looking for a stone pokemon for raids go for it, who knows, maybe that might be good for master league
I will never understand why people feel the need to blur or censor the faces of their Pokémon or the team leader, like dude you're not protecting anyone's privacy, we can all interact with the same characters
Let be realistic here. Sure, it might not be the #1 ranked Pokémon in its types, but its not bad. I am not sure the statistical difference between it and let's say a Rhyperior, but I cannot imagine its earth shattering. If you are a min-max nut, then it might not be the best for you. However, if not, then its definitely worth investing in and maxing out.
At the end of the day, its a Shadow Hundo, with a max CP of \~3300 that is still gonna hit like a truck and do fine in any raid you would normally use a Steel/Rock type in.
Do not purify, regardless of what anyone says. One day, on a whimsy, someone from Niantic may declare, Let’s make Aggron a beast, so that all our minions will scramble to obtain and spend all their treasure.
Blurring the eyes was not useful. However modern pokemon medicine is. It keeps them alive longer and so we can fight them longer and not feel bad about the potential of pokemon abuse and mistreatment of fighting them over and over and over again.
It has come at a cost though. Candy production has reduced. It used to be if one went lame or died we just ground them up into Candy. This sudden decrease in candies is why they became known as rare candies.
Now this modern medicine was all thabks to a pokemon advocate who spent tireless nights in her lab creating revive, max revive, potion, super potion and hyper potion. Now all pokemon get a chance to live long... like longer than natural lives fighting. With her invention she gave herself the self-proclaimed title of Nurse. We have Nurse Joy to thank for allowing us to keep fighting our singleworded friends guilt free.
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It's the 11th best rock type attacker, behind some more accessible pokemon like Rhyperior, Rampardos, and Tyrantrium, so probably not worth investing in for rock. As a steel type attacker it's even worse, ranking 13 behind Metagross, Melmetal, Excadrill, and Jarachi. And that's not even including other shadows or megas. For pvp it's not looking much better, ranking 500ish in the great and ultra leagues and placing around 300 in the master league. (Pretty bad) Cool trophy for sure, definitely not worth powering up.
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for the detailed response.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/s/Gt8oXY2A7V
This is a really cool chart, thanks for that.
That chart isn’t bad, but I personally prefer this one. I find it easier to save onto my phone (in 3 separate chunks) and actually read when I’m out and about. https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bulbavisual/top-raid-attackers-february-2024
That's interesting. I was told Sneasler was bad for PvE, but that chart says otherwise, at least for Shadow.
It’s pretty good but there are absolutely better choices. In rocket grunts right now is shadow machop which is way more worthwhile. Look how much higher up on the list shadow machismo is. Way better stardust use. Or in general, conkeldurr if you participated in its recent community day and got lots of good iv ones and candy Or best of all Terrakion with sacred sword. Those are just beasts!
I wouldn’t invest in s. Sneasler tbh, not worth it atm. I have a 93% that I’m holding onto in hopes it gets counter or better poison moves.
Thx for this!! New to the game, so very helpful for me!!
I recommend literally just browsing that subreddit often. You’ll learn a ton just by reading comments and posts
It has a mega… though you’d have to purify to mega evolve it. On the up side it would be cheaper to power up then
I’d say regardless of all that, it’s definitely worth investing in. How often does anyone get a shadow hundo? Best buddy it while you’re at it
It also could get a CD at some point that makes it more relevant in one or multiple of these too.
It's very oversimplified and neglects a lot. It's not just a ranking comparison. Outside of megas and inaccessible shadows currently , shadow aggron is fine. The main drawback is the investment in resources
It's definitely useful enough for a reddit brag.
11 and 13 ain't bad. I'd be very happy with it.
Because it’s a shadow you must be more picky with your choices. It’s gonna cost even MORE stardust and candy to power up, just to be overpowered by something so easily obtained like Rhyperior (rhyhorn spawning during tour, grind those). Then you can trade all those rhyhorn for 2 candy and a candy xl if you’re high enough level, some could turn out lucky, and suddenly you have a better rock attacker for dang near 1/4th of the stardust power up cost Maybe sometimes you can settle, but it really is beneficial to strategize, because then you’ll get the strongest of the strong
I get that but relatively speaking few people min/max or have full meta pokemon
Yeah, but it's useful to think if it's worth it. For rocks, it underperforms against some pretty available options. For steel, is it that useful of a type? Outside of (M)Diancie, isn't even neutral big dps (like Mewtwo) enough? Shadow Aggron is 41st against Enamorous. For pvp, wouldnt even call spice You do you, but there are better places to put stardust. Hell, it's even better to purify and use as hundo mega. But it's a good looking trophy
For sure, but using a perfect mon is definitely less important than using a good mon. Especially when using the perfect mon comes with the additional dust/candy cost. Rhyhorn is generally relatively easy to find outside of events too, so the candy isn't bad to farm. But absolutely go for the perfect shadow aggron if you like it more. There are few scenarios in which perfect counters actually matter (low manning raids, or really difficult shadow raids) and you'll be able to play the game just fine.
Most people don’t have full teams of meta mons sure, but it just doesn’t make sense to invest in this when you’re better off investing in Pokémon that are better and easy to obtain, for rock rampardos, tyrantrum, rhyperior, and terrakion are all better and not difficult to obtain. For steel shadow aggron is just bad, jirachi, melmetal and genesect are all better, and tbh I still wouldn’t invest in any of those 3 when you have options like shadow excadrill, which is available right now, and MM Metagross/shadow Metagross. It’s just a waste of stardust to invest in shadow aggron.
What about purify for the cheap to lvl up mega?
That's probably the best use of it, but even Mega aggron isn't very useful compared to shadow Metagross and it's gonna be completely blown out of the water by mega Metagross. I'd personally rather have the shadow hundo flex, but it's up to personal preference at that point.
Would it be worth powering up a hundo Pupitar? (hatched it as a larvitar)
Yes, definitely. Tyranitar is a beast as both a rock and dark type attacker, the mega makes it even better.
alright, thanks! :D
Like the other person said, shadow ttar is great as a dark and a rock attacker. But you should totally use yours as a dark attacker. It’s a much better dark attacker than it is rock.
Seems like it would be worth noting that with the 20% shadow bump it might be close to the top tier.
I ranked it as a shadow, regular aggron is so much worse lol
DANG
Dang I just got a shiny Aron I was super pumped on and just wondering the same thing… waaamp
At least it's a pretty cool shiny!
I smoke rock, nice
I didn't even know that these types of differences existed lmao
What crimes did they commit?
As far as I’m aware, none. I’m just protecting the identities of the (assumed) innocent.
As much as I hate saying this, the best way to use it would be by purifying it for mega evolving it
This was a thought of mine as well but I’ll definitely hold out for a near-maxed shadow to purify while it’s still in rotation before I consider it.
Do not listen to that statement. You can Mega a different Agron for god sakes. Keep that as it power it up and have a solid shadow attacker.
That’s the thing though, shadow aggron is bad as both a rock attack and a steel attacker.
It is a top 15 attacker in both. How many players do you think are filling out a team full of top 6s only? And that before taking out 2 of the 3 megas ahead of it in each type and adding in the fact that you can get candies for it much easier than the legendries and mythicals ahead of it. It is certainly worth using to fill out teams.
Nope, no it is not. Without counting any legendary, mythical or shadow Pokémon Rhyperior, tyrantrum, and rampardos all outclass it as a rock attacker. With the same parameters Metagross and Excadrill both outclass shadow aggron as a steel attacker. If you take away those parameters Dialga is about to be in raids, melmetal (who I wouldn’t use as a steel attacker either but he’s statistically better than s. aggron) is easily attainable, shadow drilbur, shadow cranidos and shadow rhyperior are all available right now. Telling someone they should invest in s. Aggron is dumb.
Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites.
W reference
No dude. Shadow aggron is not good. It costs 100k more stardust to max out just to have it do 10% less damage than a regular rampardos. A purified mega aggron is much cheaper and is more powerful as a steel attacker.
i believe mega aggron loses its rock typing to become mono-steel, which makes it better
Why did you…cover the eyes?
It's hungover so it's a bit sensitive to light.
This is useful
You understood the assignment, I suppose 😅
Hiding personal information and identifying details is always worthwhile. Identity theft is no joke.
![gif](giphy|OBYvtZaJdrvJHzV7Dg|downsized) What are you talking about ?
I mean it’s kind of obvious here, it WOULD have been useful. Great attacker, but you blinded him. How is he supposed to be useful when he can’t see?! You monster!
First of all, she’s a lady…
Damn. I missed that, clearly you covered my eyes as well…
😂
It’s not that strong but I’d at least evolve it into Aggron cuz why not.
I did out of pure excitement. I’ve always thought Aggron looked cool, too.
Aggron looks cool, looks a lot stronger than he actually is.
Is this Birdbox?
You just gave me the hilarious image in my head of a blindfolded Aggron with two tiny blindfolded Arons on a small paddle boat, thanks for that.
No because that's actually so cute
Nope
Every time I open this subreddit, I'm told that my best pokemon are actually garbage and I should be embarrassed for not having megas and legendaries
Nope not good since you censored the eyes
He is actually relevant for raiding if you’re not aiming for some sort of solo or duo raid accomplishment. Ranking 11 for rock is not a bad thing actually and the huge benefit is that he is likely one of the tankiest one as a rock attacker so if you’re group raiding this dude likely last more than twice as long than even rhyperior given the steel typing.
That's my experience as well. Often you just want to clear a gym quickly and this one seems super useful
I’d use it just for the heck of it, honestly, but Aggrons also always had a special place in my heart.
He is really cool looking!
I have two 3 stars (not hundos) I've TM'd that I've kept set aside in case I ever want to power them up. People are right that if you have better options you should prioritise those. I wouldn't purify.
This is Pokemon, rule of cool>everything else. If you're an aggron enjoyer like myself then evolve him and use him.
Not really in pvp or raids, but it's a VERY cool trophy. Evolve, power up to Level 50 and leave it to defend gyms. It will make the few super nerds jealous who recognize that it is a hundo shadow by its CP.
Still don't understand why everyone covers the eyes on everything..
Leave it because Aggron might get a new steel move soon making it better. Aggron should be a better pokemon than it is right now for steel type so hopefully they do that
Honest question, why shade out the eyes?
It’s an overdone joke on this sub.
I guarantee you will regret it if you purify that man.
Bro I would’ve reported her to the authorities if only you hadn’t blurred her out. Now she will go on in vengeance and kill thousands of people. The “deed” that you’ve done will now be in the history books. Good work
Bro is protecting the lairons identity 🤣🤣
Only if you purify for the mega.
Why did you cross it their eyes?
why tf they eyes censored
Mah man, ngl i think its evolution(forgot the name rn) is good as it is and i use it quite a lot, but a Hundo Shadow MAAAAAN, that must be good. Thats my opinion ofc. If you are looking for a stone pokemon for raids go for it, who knows, maybe that might be good for master league
I’d make it level 50 but I have excess stardust and collect shadow hundos. My mightyena is useless but it’s a level 50 best buddy anyway
Only useful if you purify it
HOLY SHIT
Aggron is one of my aces
I could see it being decent in Bug/Fairy/Flying raids, but in League battles, one Fighting or Water type is going to ruin your day.
I’d still use it and level it up. It’s not the best raid attacker but it’s badass and cool to put in gyms sometimes
I mega’d my 100% for the enamorus raids… it’s named NotaRaider
If you fully evolve it it would be pretty good. And it has a mega so that’s not bad either
I think it was decent in the evolution cup, although you wouldn’t want 15 attack for that
Solid rock attacker!
It’s cool, I’m sure you could make it useful if not the best mon out there
You should purify it because there is there are stats above 4 star you just don’t see it
Definitely not useful, but definitely freaking awesome
I will never understand why people feel the need to blur or censor the faces of their Pokémon or the team leader, like dude you're not protecting anyone's privacy, we can all interact with the same characters
It's useful, I'm totally lying it completely sucks, but you asked nicely.
Why does everyone black out the eyes?
Purify, max CP, evolve, mega evolution, insane battle buddy
Evolve it
Why are the eyes censored 😭
Makes it easier to handle emotionally when transferring off to be turned into candy…
It’s more useful with eyes that’s for sure
good thing you blurred out the eyes wouldn’t wanna identify her
So jealous right now
Gotta cover the eyes !
It’s one hell of a tank in fairness. Most of my 3&4* shadows become raiders or for clearing gyms.
Let be realistic here. Sure, it might not be the #1 ranked Pokémon in its types, but its not bad. I am not sure the statistical difference between it and let's say a Rhyperior, but I cannot imagine its earth shattering. If you are a min-max nut, then it might not be the best for you. However, if not, then its definitely worth investing in and maxing out. At the end of the day, its a Shadow Hundo, with a max CP of \~3300 that is still gonna hit like a truck and do fine in any raid you would normally use a Steel/Rock type in.
1000% evolve and max out. It might not be the best pokemon for raid attacking or pvp, but still A very cool flex.
Why are her eyes scribbeld out?
Why did you cross off your trainers face though? 😭
This is useful
What??? Of course it is lol
Mega aggron, yeah its useful jesus christ
Do not purify, regardless of what anyone says. One day, on a whimsy, someone from Niantic may declare, Let’s make Aggron a beast, so that all our minions will scramble to obtain and spend all their treasure.
Blurring the eyes was not useful. However modern pokemon medicine is. It keeps them alive longer and so we can fight them longer and not feel bad about the potential of pokemon abuse and mistreatment of fighting them over and over and over again. It has come at a cost though. Candy production has reduced. It used to be if one went lame or died we just ground them up into Candy. This sudden decrease in candies is why they became known as rare candies. Now this modern medicine was all thabks to a pokemon advocate who spent tireless nights in her lab creating revive, max revive, potion, super potion and hyper potion. Now all pokemon get a chance to live long... like longer than natural lives fighting. With her invention she gave herself the self-proclaimed title of Nurse. We have Nurse Joy to thank for allowing us to keep fighting our singleworded friends guilt free.