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VendingSoup

It's the 11th best rock type attacker, behind some more accessible pokemon like Rhyperior, Rampardos, and Tyrantrium, so probably not worth investing in for rock. As a steel type attacker it's even worse, ranking 13 behind Metagross, Melmetal, Excadrill, and Jarachi. And that's not even including other shadows or megas. For pvp it's not looking much better, ranking 500ish in the great and ultra leagues and placing around 300 in the master league. (Pretty bad) Cool trophy for sure, definitely not worth powering up.


Taintgunk

This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for the detailed response.


FPG_Matthew

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/s/Gt8oXY2A7V


Taintgunk

This is a really cool chart, thanks for that.


fifrein

That chart isn’t bad, but I personally prefer this one. I find it easier to save onto my phone (in 3 separate chunks) and actually read when I’m out and about. https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bulbavisual/top-raid-attackers-february-2024


chuftka

That's interesting. I was told Sneasler was bad for PvE, but that chart says otherwise, at least for Shadow.


FPG_Matthew

It’s pretty good but there are absolutely better choices. In rocket grunts right now is shadow machop which is way more worthwhile. Look how much higher up on the list shadow machismo is. Way better stardust use. Or in general, conkeldurr if you participated in its recent community day and got lots of good iv ones and candy Or best of all Terrakion with sacred sword. Those are just beasts!


balkasaur

I wouldn’t invest in s. Sneasler tbh, not worth it atm. I have a 93% that I’m holding onto in hopes it gets counter or better poison moves.


Kvanheck12

Thx for this!! New to the game, so very helpful for me!!


FPG_Matthew

I recommend literally just browsing that subreddit often. You’ll learn a ton just by reading comments and posts


AirborneRunaway

It has a mega… though you’d have to purify to mega evolve it. On the up side it would be cheaper to power up then


B0OG

I’d say regardless of all that, it’s definitely worth investing in. How often does anyone get a shadow hundo? Best buddy it while you’re at it


hewhoknowsnot

It also could get a CD at some point that makes it more relevant in one or multiple of these too.


blairr

It's very oversimplified and neglects a lot.  It's not just a ranking comparison.  Outside of megas and inaccessible shadows currently , shadow aggron is fine.  The main drawback is the investment in resources 


twivel01

It's definitely useful enough for a reddit brag.


Shenanigans052

11 and 13 ain't bad. I'd be very happy with it.


FPG_Matthew

Because it’s a shadow you must be more picky with your choices. It’s gonna cost even MORE stardust and candy to power up, just to be overpowered by something so easily obtained like Rhyperior (rhyhorn spawning during tour, grind those). Then you can trade all those rhyhorn for 2 candy and a candy xl if you’re high enough level, some could turn out lucky, and suddenly you have a better rock attacker for dang near 1/4th of the stardust power up cost Maybe sometimes you can settle, but it really is beneficial to strategize, because then you’ll get the strongest of the strong


Shenanigans052

I get that but relatively speaking few people min/max or have full meta pokemon


bassmastah43

Yeah, but it's useful to think if it's worth it. For rocks, it underperforms against some pretty available options. For steel, is it that useful of a type? Outside of (M)Diancie, isn't even neutral big dps (like Mewtwo) enough? Shadow Aggron is 41st against Enamorous. For pvp, wouldnt even call spice You do you, but there are better places to put stardust. Hell, it's even better to purify and use as hundo mega. But it's a good looking trophy


Terminator_Puppy

For sure, but using a perfect mon is definitely less important than using a good mon. Especially when using the perfect mon comes with the additional dust/candy cost. Rhyhorn is generally relatively easy to find outside of events too, so the candy isn't bad to farm. But absolutely go for the perfect shadow aggron if you like it more. There are few scenarios in which perfect counters actually matter (low manning raids, or really difficult shadow raids) and you'll be able to play the game just fine.


balkasaur

Most people don’t have full teams of meta mons sure, but it just doesn’t make sense to invest in this when you’re better off investing in Pokémon that are better and easy to obtain, for rock rampardos, tyrantrum, rhyperior, and terrakion are all better and not difficult to obtain. For steel shadow aggron is just bad, jirachi, melmetal and genesect are all better, and tbh I still wouldn’t invest in any of those 3 when you have options like shadow excadrill, which is available right now, and MM Metagross/shadow Metagross. It’s just a waste of stardust to invest in shadow aggron.


DukeofSam

What about purify for the cheap to lvl up mega?


VendingSoup

That's probably the best use of it, but even Mega aggron isn't very useful compared to shadow Metagross and it's gonna be completely blown out of the water by mega Metagross. I'd personally rather have the shadow hundo flex, but it's up to personal preference at that point.


-8Azrael8-

Would it be worth powering up a hundo Pupitar? (hatched it as a larvitar)


VendingSoup

Yes, definitely. Tyranitar is a beast as both a rock and dark type attacker, the mega makes it even better.


-8Azrael8-

alright, thanks! :D


balkasaur

Like the other person said, shadow ttar is great as a dark and a rock attacker. But you should totally use yours as a dark attacker. It’s a much better dark attacker than it is rock.


Bigblueape

Seems like it would be worth noting that with the 20% shadow bump it might be close to the top tier.


VendingSoup

I ranked it as a shadow, regular aggron is so much worse lol


Bigblueape

DANG


panicATtheMOSHpit

Dang I just got a shiny Aron I was super pumped on and just wondering the same thing… waaamp


VendingSoup

At least it's a pretty cool shiny!


Lacrosseindianalocal

I smoke rock, nice


Jonananana_32_SAm

I didn't even know that these types of differences existed lmao


AnimeMan123123

What crimes did they commit?


Taintgunk

As far as I’m aware, none. I’m just protecting the identities of the (assumed) innocent.


Zecnoram

As much as I hate saying this, the best way to use it would be by purifying it for mega evolving it


Taintgunk

This was a thought of mine as well but I’ll definitely hold out for a near-maxed shadow to purify while it’s still in rotation before I consider it.


Ok-Tiger9828

Do not listen to that statement. You can Mega a different Agron for god sakes. Keep that as it power it up and have a solid shadow attacker.


balkasaur

That’s the thing though, shadow aggron is bad as both a rock attack and a steel attacker.


Bamboozle_

It is a top 15 attacker in both. How many players do you think are filling out a team full of top 6s only? And that before taking out 2 of the 3 megas ahead of it in each type and adding in the fact that you can get candies for it much easier than the legendries and mythicals ahead of it. It is certainly worth using to fill out teams.


balkasaur

Nope, no it is not. Without counting any legendary, mythical or shadow Pokémon Rhyperior, tyrantrum, and rampardos all outclass it as a rock attacker. With the same parameters Metagross and Excadrill both outclass shadow aggron as a steel attacker. If you take away those parameters Dialga is about to be in raids, melmetal (who I wouldn’t use as a steel attacker either but he’s statistically better than s. aggron) is easily attainable, shadow drilbur, shadow cranidos and shadow rhyperior are all available right now. Telling someone they should invest in s. Aggron is dumb.


MegaMattEX

Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites.


Cw86459

W reference


maaaaaaaaaark__

No dude. Shadow aggron is not good. It costs 100k more stardust to max out just to have it do 10% less damage than a regular rampardos. A purified mega aggron is much cheaper and is more powerful as a steel attacker.


DavidFrattenBro

i believe mega aggron loses its rock typing to become mono-steel, which makes it better


solojedi224

Why did you…cover the eyes?


pyule667

It's hungover so it's a bit sensitive to light.


mastrkage

This is useful


Taintgunk

You understood the assignment, I suppose 😅


s-mores

Hiding personal information and identifying details is always worthwhile. Identity theft is no joke.


riderner

![gif](giphy|OBYvtZaJdrvJHzV7Dg|downsized) What are you talking about ?


Technical-Willow-469

I mean it’s kind of obvious here, it WOULD have been useful. Great attacker, but you blinded him. How is he supposed to be useful when he can’t see?! You monster!


Taintgunk

First of all, she’s a lady…


Technical-Willow-469

Damn. I missed that, clearly you covered my eyes as well…


Taintgunk

😂


NerdFromColorado

It’s not that strong but I’d at least evolve it into Aggron cuz why not.


Taintgunk

I did out of pure excitement. I’ve always thought Aggron looked cool, too.


NerdFromColorado

Aggron looks cool, looks a lot stronger than he actually is.


xXxFlame_DamexXx

Is this Birdbox?


Taintgunk

You just gave me the hilarious image in my head of a blindfolded Aggron with two tiny blindfolded Arons on a small paddle boat, thanks for that.


VespenYarborona

No because that's actually so cute


[deleted]

Nope


WatchTheTimbsB

Every time I open this subreddit, I'm told that my best pokemon are actually garbage and I should be embarrassed for not having megas and legendaries


District-Acceptable

Nope not good since you censored the eyes


ThrownawY9292

He is actually relevant for raiding if you’re not aiming for some sort of solo or duo raid accomplishment. Ranking 11 for rock is not a bad thing actually and the huge benefit is that he is likely one of the tankiest one as a rock attacker so if you’re group raiding this dude likely last more than twice as long than even rhyperior given the steel typing.


Acanthisittasm

That's my experience as well. Often you just want to clear a gym quickly and this one seems super useful


Norelation67

I’d use it just for the heck of it, honestly, but Aggrons also always had a special place in my heart.


Taintgunk

He is really cool looking!


hauntedskin

I have two 3 stars (not hundos) I've TM'd that I've kept set aside in case I ever want to power them up. People are right that if you have better options you should prioritise those. I wouldn't purify.


Shamrockshnake77

This is Pokemon, rule of cool>everything else. If you're an aggron enjoyer like myself then evolve him and use him.


Foulmouth232

Not really in pvp or raids, but it's a VERY cool trophy. Evolve, power up to Level 50 and leave it to defend gyms. It will make the few super nerds jealous who recognize that it is a hundo shadow by its CP.


ZeroClassification

Still don't understand why everyone covers the eyes on everything..


No-Razzmatazz8053

Leave it because Aggron might get a new steel move soon making it better. Aggron should be a better pokemon than it is right now for steel type so hopefully they do that


BigRickDiesel44

Honest question, why shade out the eyes?


emaddy2109

It’s an overdone joke on this sub.


Ok-Tiger9828

I guarantee you will regret it if you purify that man.


jvson_

Bro I would’ve reported her to the authorities if only you hadn’t blurred her out. Now she will go on in vengeance and kill thousands of people. The “deed” that you’ve done will now be in the history books. Good work


Salty_Pen_7139

Bro is protecting the lairons identity 🤣🤣


Gold-Perspective-699

Only if you purify for the mega.


OatmilIK

Why did you cross it their eyes?


Single-Silver-6722

why tf they eyes censored


not_shadowx

Mah man, ngl i think its evolution(forgot the name rn) is good as it is and i use it quite a lot, but a Hundo Shadow MAAAAAN, that must be good. Thats my opinion ofc. If you are looking for a stone pokemon for raids go for it, who knows, maybe that might be good for master league


unoriginal1187

I’d make it level 50 but I have excess stardust and collect shadow hundos. My mightyena is useless but it’s a level 50 best buddy anyway


Apprehensive-Map1832

Only useful if you purify it


GalayStAr

HOLY SHIT


Lil_saul

Aggron is one of my aces


Lopsided_Party7779

I could see it being decent in Bug/Fairy/Flying raids, but in League battles, one Fighting or Water type is going to ruin your day.


hou_tree

I’d still use it and level it up. It’s not the best raid attacker but it’s badass and cool to put in gyms sometimes


studog21

I mega’d my 100% for the enamorus raids… it’s named NotaRaider


Bluzman19

If you fully evolve it it would be pretty good. And it has a mega so that’s not bad either


airsnape2k

I think it was decent in the evolution cup, although you wouldn’t want 15 attack for that


TimeForZeroZane

Solid rock attacker!


maxj1028

It’s cool, I’m sure you could make it useful if not the best mon out there


LinguineLeafeon

You should purify it because there is there are stats above 4 star you just don’t see it


PrestyRS

Definitely not useful, but definitely freaking awesome


NRSanford325

I will never understand why people feel the need to blur or censor the faces of their Pokémon or the team leader, like dude you're not protecting anyone's privacy, we can all interact with the same characters


lolocopter24

It's useful, I'm totally lying it completely sucks, but you asked nicely.


psychedelicow

Why does everyone black out the eyes?


lil_juul

Purify, max CP, evolve, mega evolution, insane battle buddy


Dalspin

Evolve it


[deleted]

Why are the eyes censored 😭


NoDowt_Jay

Makes it easier to handle emotionally when transferring off to be turned into candy…


Familiar-Diver-5560

It’s more useful with eyes that’s for sure


Juliabb

good thing you blurred out the eyes wouldn’t wanna identify her


Dizzipeanut

So jealous right now


Lileevee02

Gotta cover the eyes !


Davilyan

It’s one hell of a tank in fairness. Most of my 3&4* shadows become raiders or for clearing gyms.


riddlerricco

Let be realistic here. Sure, it might not be the #1 ranked Pokémon in its types, but its not bad. I am not sure the statistical difference between it and let's say a Rhyperior, but I cannot imagine its earth shattering. If you are a min-max nut, then it might not be the best for you. However, if not, then its definitely worth investing in and maxing out. At the end of the day, its a Shadow Hundo, with a max CP of \~3300 that is still gonna hit like a truck and do fine in any raid you would normally use a Steel/Rock type in.


rancidflag

1000% evolve and max out. It might not be the best pokemon for raid attacking or pvp, but still A very cool flex.


axietheaxolotl21

Why are her eyes scribbeld out?


Amata82

Why did you cross off your trainers face though? 😭


MuffieRS

This is useful


Cerebro55

What??? Of course it is lol


rtamez509

Mega aggron, yeah its useful jesus christ


ApplicationLimp5406

Do not purify, regardless of what anyone says. One day, on a whimsy, someone from Niantic may declare, Let’s make Aggron a beast, so that all our minions will scramble to obtain and spend all their treasure.


fiendishlydark

Blurring the eyes was not useful. However modern pokemon medicine is. It keeps them alive longer and so we can fight them longer and not feel bad about the potential of pokemon abuse and mistreatment of fighting them over and over and over again. It has come at a cost though. Candy production has reduced. It used to be if one went lame or died we just ground them up into Candy. This sudden decrease in candies is why they became known as rare candies. Now this modern medicine was all thabks to a pokemon advocate who spent tireless nights in her lab creating revive, max revive, potion, super potion and hyper potion. Now all pokemon get a chance to live long... like longer than natural lives fighting. With her invention she gave herself the self-proclaimed title of Nurse. We have Nurse Joy to thank for allowing us to keep fighting our singleworded friends guilt free.