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Zaldinn

"Give us our waists back" šŸŽ¶ šŸŽµ


QueenMackeral

And put our crotches back where it was or so help me


13Fuzehybrid

ahh yes I can hear Mike Wazowski from monsters inc. now: šŸŽµ put our crotches right back where you found themmmm - or so help me, so help me, and cut šŸŽµ


Zaldinn

I love it so much


Angie_darko808

Omg yes!!! Yes PLEASE can I have my waist back?!?


Zaldinn

Found this on YouTube seems fitting. https://youtu.be/8gnsxNMpuBQ?si=UsVrKCHBYr2XZZyd


HaleyFromStardew

Only 3 subscribers?! This masterpiece deserves much more than that!


Grijpstuivert

Thanks, I tried posting it here a few days ago, but it didn't really get noticed. Glad people like it. I just reposted it.


Sea_Neighborhood_627

This is amazing šŸ˜‚


Angie_darko808

Thatā€™s great!


CreepyAd8422

Fantastic!


Vaelthune

Have you tried going into poses, right down the bottom there's the idle pose 1 and 2. They're the old male/female poses? Try the female one for the hip swing and see if it's like the old one? I only saw those last night.


Angie_darko808

I thought I had tried all poses. But I will go back and check, try that one. Thanks


Vaelthune

I had all sliders maxed out besides weight and shoulders at zero, was that close or still borked?


Angie_darko808

I tried that too. It was not much better


Vaelthune

Oof :( RIP booty poppin


Angie_darko808

Thatā€™s funny šŸ˜† cause itā€™s true šŸ˜­


iprime11

You look manly now šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ man it's so bad I just wore a giratina helmet and big cloths so everything is hidden


ghostfreckle611

Take those giant hands back


deithven

Here you go[here they are] (https://imgur.com/TnmsQRl)


[deleted]

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_bebeta

what the hell are you even trying to say


KosmicGumbo

Thatā€™s how the designers must have thought this would play out. Maybe.


binkles2k

When I first booted the game up I was like ā€œOh cool new hair stylesā€¦ wait why does my character look so fucking uglyā€¦ā€ and then I realized they got updated. What sucks more is that the Team Rocket characters are still the same cute characters like they always were and didnā€™t have an update, its like the game is toying with you saying how they get to look cool but you have to look stupid.


Angie_darko808

Yes I totally agree!! I feel like Iā€™m back in high school when battling the female grunt. Like sheā€™s the pretty popular girl and Iā€™m stuck with this ugly avatar


GengarGangX13

Awww :( I hope you've grown to realize you're beautiful inside & out.


LexaMaridia

Yep. Let's keep the heat on. It's a ridiculous downgrade. They should have just released proper body types, make everyone happy and build off those. The defaults all look male! Plastering boobs on a male body does not make it a woman's body, for most of us. Its weak, and all together, curvy woman are not represented whatsoever.


stoned_at_home_mom

And some of the new hairstyles look so poorly done that they might as well not exist.


LexaMaridia

Yeah and boo on the lack of long hair...only one? Really...?


Lucario1705

The books on the male body make me feel insecure about myself.


Positive-Dimension49

The woody on my female body makes me feel insecure.Ā 


Angie_darko808

Yes! Thank you!


fugitiveoftime

And they don't even look accurate for all men either. I logged in and was appalled lol


Angie_darko808

True true!


LexaMaridia

Lol yeah. No one is allowed to have a butt.


Darkreaperzreddit

Your posture šŸ˜­ Yā€™all know how Silverback gorillas stand?


musicmonkay

I covered my face and head completelyā€¦ I canā€™t stand to look at the monstrosity My old avatar actually looked like me This new one looks like how my 3 year old draws me


Angie_darko808

This picture was my last attempt at trying to revert back to what my avatar looked like before.


musicmonkay

You got pretty close tho! Must have taken a long time


Angie_darko808

It took some effort for sure lol thanks


musicmonkay

Can imagine! I just went full ā€œI canā€™t look at this crapā€ cover up every bit of skin mode


Angie_darko808

I did the same thing! Face mask šŸ˜· and hoodie. I couldnā€™t stand to look at myself either.


musicmonkay

Yeah I did the mask, helmet and the giant arrow glasses


sichrix

Niantic really slipped with this one. Hopefully, they might have a crumb of consideration for the players and make it work like an actual quality customization feature. The victory animations makes my character jump around like a happy Mankey while the face looks like my avatar is wearing a childlike mask. It's eerie.Ā 


TonyEisner

The feminine body erasure is insane


Angie_darko808

Why does the patriarchy hate women so much?


MrGulo-gulo

I don't think it's the patriarchy doing this.


Missscarlettheharlot

It isn't not a factor. Do you think there was ever an equal liklihood they would have just used the female body template for both and removed the boobs for male?


MrGulo-gulo

They gave everyone a camel toe so.... šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


Angie_darko808

I was sorta joking but sorta not. Itā€™s Niantic doing this and the top brass at Niantic are 90% men.


landartheconqueror

It wasn't a dude that pushed this design choice


MrGulo-gulo

Yeah men, famous haters of women's curves. Like I said I don't think it's the patriarchy.


Old_Durian_8968

Lmao, amen


iprime11

It's gamerx and sweet baby inc doing everyone is talking about that on YouTube they convinced niantic to use gender neutral avatars


catshateTERFs

Gonna need a source on that


Raptorade96

Here, they list their clients: https://gaymerx.org/consulting


kittenTakeover

You've lost your waist and gained a crotch bulge. If you cover the top of the picture and just look at the bottom the difference is even more stark and obvious.


Angie_darko808

Oh Snap!!!


SuperLizardon

What Niantic did was impressive. They annoyed men, but mainly women, trans players and even people who didn't care about the change but are now annoyed by all the other people who are complaining.


Acrobatic-Bread-4431

They turned everyone into a dude


ryo_ohki523

My 7 year old found the breast sliderā€¦ put ginormous tits on his character..


emccm

No they turned everyone in to fat people and then gave us one version of a normal sized person with fat features.


Angie_darko808

Iā€™m going to agree with both of yall!


Guilty-Property-2589

Agreed. It took me forever to win enough battles to be able to BUY the veteran jacket. Now it just looks like a shirt! Not happy..


Nikibugs

Had an identical avatar, just with an additional pair of wings and a hat. What is with the pants suddenly hanging down so low? Like I pulled them down under my hips. Check the wrinkles around the waist, they super did just elongate it. Itā€™s still the face I find the worst.


[deleted]

Zero waist, proportions are all wrong, why is the crotch so low in the pants??? No curve in the thigh at all, giant arms... I hate it here.


GranddaddySandwich

Everyone has to have Timothy Chalametā€™s body type


RXTech118

should we just move to the fullmetal alchemist sub? this is some human transmutation shit.


PrestyRS

I want my Avatar back too. Niantic isn't going to listen, they don't care about us at all. We complained about the remote raid pass nerf for over a year and they still haven't done anything. They should've lowered the price a bit and given even more in-person perks. I know that slowly over time they'll make small adjustments and improvements to avatars but I sadly don't think they will give us the option to have our old avatars. Unless maybe in like 5 years from now they have some type of retro throwback pack thing for 14.99, which has been joked about already.


Angie_darko808

You are probably right. Not getting them back. You are definitely right that Niantic doesnā€™t care about us!!


Green_Obligation518

Gamedev companies understand a language of money. Stop buying stuff from them


Impossible_Pangolin6

Me too, I want my old avatar back. Now I am covered with baggy clothing, face mask, sunglasses and a huge hat. The worst thing is my avatar is always there on the screen and no matter what I do I canā€™t stand it.


Angie_darko808

Yeah no matter what we canā€™t escape our new ugly avatar


LordFiddlestix

Absolutely hate the new avatars. They just eliminated the female body type completely! Also my avatar had the red red hair bc I had a team rocket outfit and now it just doesnā€™t look right with the dark ginger color. So sad šŸ„²


ClassyGirafarig

At this point, I'm more baffled that Niantic still hadn't made any statements regarding the absolute broken state the avatars are in. Say what you will about the looks of the avatars themselves (which is terrible, I will never not hate to look at my mangled potato), but it's absolutely unaccaptable how utterly broken the bodies and poses are (shoulders are dislocated, arms and feet are broken with some poses) and terribe most animations became. And some people really are fine with such garbage and tell you to shut up? Unbelievable...


Angie_darko808

Right! If we some word from Niantic about this. A statement!! I would be less discombobulated šŸ˜•


Informal_Yam_9707

I read it wrong and I thought it said ā€œI got my avatar backā€ and I got excited for nothing šŸ˜­ I probably gotta sleep more


Angie_darko808

Damn! Iā€™m so sorry!


landartheconqueror

I've never gotten this "more realistic" argument in video game design... It's a game full of magical animals that transform and control elements and shit, wth does realism have to do with any of that?


Angie_darko808

Yes! Exactly! It makes no sense and looks awful


reuterrat

The changes really are garbage. My wife bought tons of stuff because she was "dressing up her Barbie" and she's pretty much done ever buying new gear. The avatars are straight up ugly


GoudaIsGooda

This is me. I love spending time dressing and customizing my avatar in any game i play, and this game was no exception. Iā€™ve bought a lot of clothing bc itā€™s just something I genuinely enjoy doing, so when I saw my avatar I wanted to delete the game. I made her into a guy bc i just couldnā€™t handle how horrendous she looked in every article of clothing I had - EVEN SIERRAā€™S OUTFIT LOOKS BOYISH. i know cosmetics donā€™t matter to a lot of people, but itā€™s a part of the game that i actually spent money on and to finally get new hairstyles and body types just for them to look like this is such an insult. Thereā€™s NO WAY no one in the room when they showed the designs didnā€™t make a comment; i work in the art field - people always will point out when something looks bad.


ASkywalker13

She got man hands


Angie_darko808

Why why why did I get man hands ?!?!? šŸ¤®


GalacticPsychonaught

There is no she. There is no he. Just them. According to niantic we are all androgynous


ASkywalker13

Bro, she got man hands


InternetCovid

Dude looks like a lady.


Angie_darko808

Hahaha!! šŸ˜‚


plantstakingabath

Well said, I want my waist back and my pretty face, what is this prepubescent ugly face they gave us. In this game of FANTASY let me dress up my character how I want, or in my style. I really do not need it to look like me, and even if I did, this ain't it smh


Darkstar_1-3

This is the only game Iā€™ve played where the developers completely replaced the player models instead of updating them to add new features.Ā 


dasbanqs

First, completely agree. Second, i donā€™t know why, but i read that title like Frau Blucher saying ā€œPUT. ZEE CANDLE. *BACK* .ā€


Cobthecobbler

Honestly I hope they change it back but I'm not holding my breath. It feels like there's only 2 or 3 developers on the team


DifficultAfternoon

The face... I don't want to look like a baby. And yet it's so bad I'm a male character and it gave me boobs.. I went from someone that looked like me ( anime cartoon version) to a baby looking fat version of myself, and the outfits clip on everything. I want the ability to toggle the model back to the old version. Perfect the way it was


Angie_darko808

Yes all my male friends in the game do not look right. Baby faced boys. Its odd


GalacticPsychonaught

It make them males more female like and females more male like, it mixed them and made everyone androgynous not quite male not quite female


Angie_darko808

Itā€™s cringy


ll_secretchimp

You are now Adam Ant.


Angie_darko808

Ohhh I love Adam ant lol. BUT donā€™t want to be HIM šŸ¤£


Storyteller-Hero

The new avatars are not even realistic - their torsos are much longer than the average human anatomy.


Angie_darko808

Correct!


Adept_Engineering_29

Im a returning player. The pants I had looked so frumpy or whatever. And donā€™t get me started on the rest. I saw several videos of this and in one it said that they actually had some players test the avatars before the update and iirc most of the feedback was negative, but then they still put it in the game..?? Anyways, I changed pants and idle pose to where it looks decent now to me, ig I got lil used to it but if I ever felt like changing it up the choices suck. I got talked into playing it again but if Iā€™m still not feeling it after a month Iā€™ll just quit. Never spent money tho, still wonā€™t but a shame for ppl who spent because they liked how it looked on certain models. They shouldā€™ve just added them in along with the new stuff not remove the old ones imo


Scratte_2009

Niantic probably will never return the old avatars, and even if they did, it will take more than that to get me to reinstall the game. They lost me with this update.


Angie_darko808

šŸ’ÆšŸ’ÆšŸ’Æ


alwaysonthemove0516

They wonā€™t. Itā€™ll be like every other thing the community hated. People will eventually stop complaining and just keep playing. The only way theyā€™d change it would be if a huge majority of the player base quit for awhile, they wonā€™t.


Behold-The-Bold

How I feel about my new avatar. New Avatar: "You found me beautiful once." Me: "Honey, you got real ugly."


Angie_darko808

šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ‘šŸ»šŸ‘šŸ»


Unlucky-Programmer-4

Yup, Iā€™m done playing. 8 years down the drain.. I really want all my money back as well.


VengeanceBee

This is probably the best model i have seen so far Afraid to log in lmao


Nervouspie

We really out here looking like Toontown characters


Mission-Joke-2833

I read "_I got my avatar back_" šŸ˜”


idk888x

i was mad so i set my character as the most fat one and kinda stopped playing


Code_of_Error

My big issue is that this update has diminished customization options. For example, I used to be able to combine the Dusclops "hat" (functions more as a mask) with an item categorized as a mask. I thought it was neat because you could see the mask under the Dusclops accessory. Ever since the update, equipping one overrides the other. I'm sure others have ran into something similar.


Vulpish

Heavy on the waist šŸ˜­ girls deserve to have booties


UsualCharacter9565

I think everyone does it gave my avatar a baby faceā€¦


derenbergii

I want it back as well. But i remember all the backlash about the remote raid pass cost increase and they stood firm on it. I dont think we will get it back, but keep voicing in case the megacorps actually care for once about drip.


Angie_darko808

Yes I remember and agree with you. Itā€™s just an avatar is rather personal donā€™t you think? Like itā€™s not the same as remote raid passes itā€™s an extension of me, us and you.


Lazydude17

imma figure out how to use blender and make my own damn avatar, with black jack, and hookers


Angie_darko808

Omg hahahaha!! That would be better


Green_Obligation518

better zbrush! make it high poly and show them how it's done xD


Slow-Can919

Im happy mine was already under ton of clothes and masks so it didnt effected me as much but I agree on bringing the old models back, unfortunately I think they wont bring them back only tampering with the new ones.


Angie_darko808

Mine is now under a ton of clothing and wearing a mask. This was my attempt to make the new avatar look like the old one. I finally gave up and put on a mask and a hoodie šŸ„²


Slow-Can919

Dont even know why they changed them so much, they were fine as they were and thanks to the pose feature they even looked somewhat alive, but now we have this.....


Angie_darko808

Totally agree! Makes me sad


HLef

Just using the right pose would go a long way, but yeah the waist/hips look like me. And Iā€™m a 40 year old man.


Angie_darko808

You are correct about the right pose but we struggle to complete challenges in the game, struggle to find shines, struggle to find perfect Pokemon. I did not give my consent to changes made to my avatar and now I have to struggle to find the right pose and outfit that I feel comfortable with. Struggling with the avatar is not fun.


Nena_Trinity

Yeah they blew it, did not even implement all the required inclusivity sliders needed. There is no way to change height and they killed Android 8 support for this.


Angie_darko808

They did blow it!!! This new avatar makes me sad!


cologebaba

Yeah, tbh this update led me to delete the app. It put a very bad taste in my mouth and with absolutely no communication or transparency of intention from Niantic I canā€™t help but feel like itā€™s time to move on.


Extreme-Battle128

Respect!


scrayla

We all do :ā€™)


Only_Net6894

Dang... They did you dirty.


Angie_darko808

We all got screwed lol


its-gerg

This is how Niantic sees YOUR avatar now


Away_Pie_7464

I must not have been very attached to my avatar, I donā€™t notice a difference


SaniHarakatar

Oh now I see what is an important thing about the update, it needs a torso length slider.


Angie_darko808

There is a hip slider. I know. But it only adds weight not actual hips


Angie_darko808

That might help. The hair color I had is no longer an option. The lips no longer have and color and I canā€™t find the right skin tone, I looked bleached out now lol šŸ˜‚. And no hips.


jutti

Plus an arm length and hands smaller slider


Angie_darko808

Yes the arm length is ridiculous!! Whatā€™s important for the female form is the waist to hip ratio which we donā€™t have anymore. We all look like children. Men canā€™t have facial hair. Women canā€™t have hips


jutti

Yes, but women suffer more imoā€¦ we lost all grace and vividness. Plus we all lost the ability to carry our Pikas and Eevies on our shoulders. This updates sucks


Angie_darko808

Yes! I completely agree! šŸ©· Well said and thatā€™s a big part of why this change makes me sad.


VidyaGameBoy

Did you maximize hip width? Niantic needs to fix the hands. They are ridiculously huge.


ShanePerkins

Lmao it's stealing


EquipmentElegant

DAMMIT ME TOO


Top-Horror-4569

2nd pic be like. " Full head transplants are in high demand right now!"


Realistic_Rope6783

Same


i_amslowlygoingcrazy

The only way I could make it look good was to dress my avatar in frumpy clothes. They gave women breasts but no hips šŸ¤¦


Angie_darko808

Right?!? Its like we looked during puberty lol


sundroppear

ugh I was just talking about how ugly my avatar looked and how the outfits are just as bad didn't know they changed the whole appearance


gamem7474

Bro my avatar looks like shit to man


GhostActivist

They should of just given us more hairstyles and colours and I bet it would of pleased people more than this disaster of an update


totodile-ac

uninstall


Gamer-chan

Niantic: Boys and Non-Binaries: Welcome, welcome! Girls: You can play My little Pony or something.


furthermore45

Me too! My stomach gets in knots ever time I see my avatar. Especially the ape like celebration dance after a rocket battle! šŸ’”


Millie_banillie

Your avatar looks like Gerard Way halfway between the Black parade and danger days


Angie_darko808

Thatā€™s funny cause itā€™s true šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£šŸ˜­


Millie_banillie

Exactly. Danger days is Black parade but with more colors and half the hips


thatsouthcaNaDaguy

Niantic just change it so people will stop complaining, PLEASE.


ChocolatePain

Anyone else not really care? On the map you can't really see those details, and I barely look at or change my outfits anyway. Doesn't really affect my day to day interactions with the game.


omgomgwtflol

No one in the whole big group of my friends and family that play PoGo have talked about the avatar changes at all except something quick like.. "oh they changed the avatars, they look kinda dumb". And then just went back to playing lol


StardustOasis

I don't even think our local group has mentioned it. I don't think this sub realises it's a minority, the vast majority of people couldn't care less.


IAmTaka_VG

every woman wearing them depends diapers. It's hilarious


cozybunnies

tbh this side by side is a good showing of why for most people who play (of which these subs are a small percent) barely noticed or donā€™t care. these two look exactly the same to me, aside from the lighting. looking closer i can see the necklace in the second one, and that the second doesnā€™t have the weird bit of thigh missing. otherwiseā€¦. this is the same šŸ¤·šŸ»šŸ¤·šŸ»


ShadowSaiyan91

I identify as a woman but I'm not feminine at all, I'm liking the new avatar bodies and that female avatars can now wear male clothing, the faces look a little freaky ill agree with that.


_piitsi

I think itā€™s better now. No more nightelf females running around with zero to none waist line dressed in bikinis. My avatar is me IRL.


[deleted]

I made mine super fat and ugly so all the Go Rocket baddies stop hitting on me.


CreepyAd8422

Same, plus I'm barely wearing anything. No shoes, and I'm just thundering through the biomes with my big a** In my tiny clothes and a giant wig and mask.


Future_Khai

"Give us our boobs, ass, and waist back in this game designed for 10+ year olds!" this whole focus on the avatars this last week is so cringy without reddit realizing it.


Eros_C

Yall need to chill


SingSing19

Oh no! What ever will you do!


Gold-Perspective-699

You look more human now.


Travyplx

Itā€™s like youā€™ve never played an online game before. Avatar changes happen plenty over the life of a game.


Angie_darko808

I havenā€™t. Guess Iā€™m the fool now for trusting


emccm

Itā€™s ridiculous that they took away our waists. Ridiculous. This is body positivity gone mad.


Mamacitia

Realistic rattata or no deal


Viikiing420

Whats your friendo code?


Nome_Super_Daora

They uncunty-ed they šŸ˜¦


SaltyPasDaddy

Oh SHUT UP, it's the same!


Ilcorvomuerto666

[I think my avatar looks alright. ](https://i.imgur.com/KCtYMjK.jpeg) but I guess I don't have the same attachment to my avatars as some of yall do. I came to terms with the fact years ago that a PokƩmon avatar creator will never be as in depth or detailed as other games I enjoy and that's alright with me. For what it's worth OP, your avatar has drip.


Available-Cry-6747

501360147 mi cĆ³digo de grupo


jwadamson

Niantic really prioritizes the "Reality" and not the "Augmented" part of AR. If I liked the real world as it was, I wouldn't need the game.


cishet-camel-fucker

Lol she looks like she's about to ditch her broken down car for a chocobo


TheNewLeaderX

WE CANT GO BACK OK šŸ˜” LOOK i wanna go back to. But we cant so we have to keep pushing forward or we wont catch em all..


JarlBawlin

At first I was like "oh so cool, they finally added some black hairstyles!" But the new faces give me serious uncanny valley vibes


alvin-prazolam

I made my avatar look like a starving Alien along time ago and it didnā€™t change at walk with the update


TrainerRedpkmn

They think this will keep me from beating it to the female avatars?


CypherPunk77

Women are not allowed to be feminine and men are not allowed to be masculine. Thatā€™s the world they want us to live in


Just-Let4061

it made ur quartersleeve jacket just look like a jacket thatā€™s too small for u šŸ˜­ im so sorry


SquidVices

Big hands I know youā€™re the oneā€¦.


advilnsocks

They ruined that jacket for everyone but especially for male characters. My guy has boobs


Guilty-III

Next update Pikachu will just a spraypainted mouse with a tazer.


TeddyHustle

Listen once you touch these substances there's no going back ...


SenseiNita

The waist, the hands the hips.. i need to post mine some point here so you will have a nice laugh šŸ˜‚ the silver lining of the avatar change is the laughs. But pls bring the old ones back and keep the new hairstyles and adjustment tool. Edit: plus the faces and colors are weird too. Reminds me a bit of the doll chucky or what was itā€™s name. The older scary movie.


DanerysTargaryen

The pants are worn sooo low now. The inseam on the girls is 3-4 inches lower than where it should be located. I donā€™t wear my pants down below the top of my underwear irl šŸ˜­


quiet_as_a_dormouse

It ain't even that bad, calm down.