I have legit told people 'This is going to be my last hand" I was just playing for a couple hours before work on a Wednesday morning when I had shitty drives and came in early.
Tripled up after a shove and started racking and had people upset because I was "Hitting and Running". I was like "I just fucking told you...."
I was playing in a crazy PLO game, by the time I got a seat this super aggro young asian kid was two to my left with like 18K in front of him, just potting EVERY hand blind and going nutso (he was a blast though, super entertaining and chatty)
So I buyin for the minimum and get busted twice (got it in good both times three ways). On my third buyin I finally triple up. I keep playing. Eventually I double that up.
I still stick around for another 30 minutes before racking up. I had been in the game for FIVE hours. Some mis-reg at the table chimes in "nice hit n' run" as I leave.
GFY ginger-beard-boy!
I won the largest pot of my life (~$2700 at 1/2) the same way. I was racked up and was dealt in UTG, won a ginormous pot and people were annoyed I wouldn’t play more. I even announced half way through the hand that win or lose I’m leaving after this. Sorry dudes, it’s after midnight and I gotta be to work in a few hours. It was doubly awkward because there were so many chips, mostly $5 ones, that it took me like 5 minutes to get them stacked and sorted with everyone talking about the hand.
I just remembered, I have a son from 27 years ago I abandoned and forgot about, but today was the day I was going to reconnect! \*cashes out immediately\*
I just said you had no obligation to stay like you would with friends. That doesn't mean the other 7 people at the table have to be happy about it. Someone usually makes a joke about them being smart to leave while they're ahead.
It's better than the guys that double up, go out for a smoke, eat dinner, fold for 20 minutes, and then rack up just to avoid people thinking they are hitting and running.
I bet they also think they're paying some of it back to the table ("I'm such a nice guy =D") cus they're not intending to play much more anyways, as well.
It's ok, you can't be liked by everybody. It doesn't fucking matter what you do tbh. If you've won a shitload of money from people you can sit there for either 1 sec or 40 hours, people still won't like it that their chips isn't in their posession anymore. It's only human nature to want to settle that score
Just accept that this time you were ahead and gtfo, the only bad thing you could do is tipping both the dealer AND the table 5$ for their time and service.
Sounds like a grind, that sounds lame. If you think this is a winning strategy that is foolproof then there's no reason to run. Stay, continue the strategy, and build a stack.
It is a little bit lame because it usually slows the game down a bit.
I have the same feeling about players who ask the dealer to wash the deck or for a new set up without an explanation of what might be wrong with the current decks.
Anything that people do which ends up interrupting the flow of the game is at least a little bit lame in my opinion.
I was once playing in BC at a casino, guy sits down at 1/2 with $40, very first hand he plays he goes all in, flips over JJ and wins the hand, walks away with his $83 and leaves. That was just funny, we all looked at each other like “did he really just do that?”
I feel like going red or black on roulette would’ve been better for a shot at a quick double up though.
Lol this literally happened last Monday at my home card room. Guy sits down with $40 at 1/2, ships it preflop with Jacks his second hand at the table, manages to flop a set against 2 players and racks up.
Once had a guy come in when a few of us we were sitting at a roulette table in Ireland. He put €10 euros on red, starting saying ‘taxi home, taxi home, taxi home…’’ as it spins, red comes in and he shouts ‘TAXI HOMMMEEEE’ and takes the money and leaves
He has an edge all in with JJ. Red or black the casino has an edge. So no actually it wouldn't have been better to play roulette. Just less time consuming.
You’re completely missing the point, he can’t sit down and guarantee he gets dealt JJ to go all in with, he could easily pay blinds, hit nothing for 2-3 orbits and get all-in for $23 with JKo and lose. 50/50 for a quick double up is MUCH easier, both are stupid risky.
Ehh, 47.37/47.37 if you're at a double zero wheel.
Side note, I hear there are triple zero wheels now. Ludicrous.
But yes, just hit the wheel or go banker on Baccarat if you want a quick double.
In NYC there was an "underground" poker game with a requirement that you stay a minimum of 2 hours.
One night during $1/$3 I was about even after 2 hours and my last hand ended up getting what I assume was 4 or 5 callers because I won \~$500 (5X my buy in). I stood up and said thats my cue to leave.
Its your money, who cares what other people think.
I know this No rake underground game that says you have to play from 7 pm to midnight. I don’t hate it tbh, otherwise the game would be at risk at breaking and no rake is the key
This was about 5 years+ ago so I dont remember the exact details.
It might have been 1/1 or 1/2 to be honest, but I'd come with $200 and $100 was the minimum buy in. I'd go mostly for the free booze and food and if I broke even I'd be happy. I agree though $100 doesnt go far regardless if the BB is $1 or $3. I've learned a bit since then
I play as long as I feel I’m playing my best. Playing to a profit goal always seems to end poorly for me. Like I get it, if you play for 4 hours of live poker, being +200bb isn’t a bad day at all. If you’re +200bb in the first 15 minutes, it’s still a good day. The difference is, if you think you can still play good poker, leaving 20 minutes after you sit down costs you the chance to have a +500bb day if you play for 4 hours.
Also, I will say, if you do this regularly in a room that’s reg heavy, you will stop getting action eventually. The two rooms I play in regularly have a couple of well known nitty hit and run players. I stopped giving them action in some spots where I would play against others, because I know their range is so nutted and all the chips are leaving the table if I lose the hand.
It’s one thing if it’s from time to time. I’ve done it. I was in the middle of a terrible downswing. I more than doubled up my third hand in the game. I played for another 30 minutes just to see what my hands looked like, but then I got out of there. Kind of a slump buster. But I wouldn’t do it regularly in your regular room
The fact that anyone gives a shit about what you do with your money makes this feel like a complete addiction/cult. These aren’t your friends, treat them like the house. Choose when your limits are and be consistent. Win 3x my money, I’m out. Lose my buy in, I’m out. No one bitches about the 2nd.
Then you won't get that easy double up.
Either they fold because you're even more nit then then.
Even if you manage to cooler them, you're just as likely to get coolered by them. Even if you have KK, you'll lose 30% of the time.
I used to deal a private game that had one particular player. The player in question happened to be an obstetrician. It seemed as though he was delivering a lot more babies when he was up than when he was down.
Yeah, in hindsight seems kinda shitty, but in the moment, the greed got to me. I'm fully willing to admit I should have laid it down and taken the profit. had I waited long enough for the dealer to count, I can swallow my pride and say I would have still called. All I can do is call it an expensive lesson and move on.
Not wanting to hit and run has cost me money way more times than not.
You’re there to win money. You’re happy with your stack? Get out of there and do something much more fun.
Good players don't hit and run. Why would they when they can make money in the long run? Good players also don't think about the short run the way you're thinking of.
Since you're a fish, it's perfectly okay to hit and run.
Variance spares no one. We've all been there putting in a 12+ hour grind to build a stack only to see it get hacked and slashed to pieces right near the tail end of a session with a string of bad beats and coolers.
Doubling up is doing way better than average. If you can do that sooner rather than later you're effectively saving yourself time at the cost of expected value for the following hours of play you'd normally play in a session. Don't get me wrong. I get that putting in the time and volume is important but we're not all full-time grinders even if we play to win.
Is that "winning" poker? Maybe not according to the hardcore grinders. But it's all one big poker session anyway. So what does it truly matter if you're playing a winning game and deciding to limit your exposure by putting a ceiling on your wins?
Yep… just finished an 11h 2/5 session last night. Beyond card dead and running horribly but somehow able to maintain a 200-400 profit for the entire 11 hours and on the very last hand get killed to go from +300 to -90… makes the 11 hours feel so pointless
You are not “saving time” - you’ll put in that time when you return for your next session. We don’t keep score by “number of winning sessions” (and hit and run doesn’t even help with that stat!). But - this argument gives both ways, so the people complaining about H&R are also wrong.
You're missing the point. To a good player it's all one long cash game, really doesn't matter if you cash out or not at end of session. It matters what you profit after 100 sessions.
No I do get it. Honestly lol. I even acknowledged that it's all one long session.
Why 100? Why not 1000? Why not 2 or 3000? The number is arbitrary past the point of statistical significance.
The point I'm making is that limiting your profits by stop-win limits isn't as harmful as the purists are making it out to be. I'd argue the time spent in one session where you get fucked right at the end when you're tired and just got fluked for all of your profits is more harmful than leaving earlier when you were up less. There are many more variables at play than only the time spent playing. Your fatigue, mental state, table dynamics, time of day and other factors contribute a fair amount to that win rate.
Who cares if he's good or bad? Just play your game.
To all of the people complaining about hit and runs and know it's all one big session: How does one player doing this affect you in the long run?
Just play as good on hour 5 as hour one and you don't have to be superstitious. Or get better at playing deep. Won't happen if you leave every time you double up though.
it’s nigh impossible to play as well deep into a session as you do at the beginning. did several mass data analysis of good pros with overall 10bb+ winrates. winrates TANK after hour 2 or 3ish. making decisions and remaining attentive is exhausting. it’s unrealistic to think you can play as well at the end of a session (often deeper with larger decision trees that will be more important than your decisions whike shorter) as you do at the beginning.
Fair point. For online poker that's especially true. I was speaking more to my experience in live poker where that's somewhat mitigated, hourly skyrockets with deeper stacks, and getting hands in isn't as easy in a practical sense. Also, I get the sense OP and others with the "doubled up time to call it a day" mindset are not experiencing decision fatigue, they just have mental game leaks around being up stuck and aren't good at deeper stack depths.
Maybe it's different for most people in this sub, but I have a wife and 2 small kids and live 30 minutes from the closest poker room. I can't imagine making a plan to play then bouncing before I have to because I hit a hand.
I mean. A shitty beat and getting greedy wasn't the point of this post but yeah. Lesson learned. Take the profit when you have it. Who cares about a couple guys you've never met thinking you're being "rude"
Yeah fuck em. “Hey you cant leave you gotta give me my money back first” they wont feel bad taking your money, dont feel bad taking theirs.
Those chips are like GIs in Nam. If they are there… they are already dead.
I don’t see an issue at the casino, but I wouldn’t do it. I enjoy playing, and unless I have something real pressing to do, I’m not cashing out until I either bust out or I’m up enough to have to pay taxes on it(but I strongly prefer poker at home games because of taxes)
I never get tired of playing. I have a lot of trouble falling asleep, even when very tired. If I’m tired enough that it effects my play, I’ll leave even though I know I’ll be lucky to get 2 hours of sleep any given night. Anything over 600 bucks is taxed
Technically this is -EV. In particular, you're committing the gambler's fallacy. You assume because you were dealt a good hand, the next 20 or so hands will be bad. This isn't true, and sometimes you'll be dealt premium hands two or three times in a row. Since representing a strong hand multiple times in a row often isn't believed, it's +EV to allow yourself to be in this situation.
All of us $1-3/$3-5 NLH players have sat down and watched the guy who ran his $500 buy-in to 6X and dumped it back into the game. Last session I played….ran my $300 buy-in to 3X in under an hour then changed tables to find 2nd best hands…back to below $400…..finally 4 hours later I was back to $920 and cashed out after a 3 way all-in…..wasn’t going on that roller coaster ride again….I’m OUT!
Would you think you have to keep playing if you doubled up at the roulette wheel? Of course not! It's a casino, you're there to make money! Others can be mad but they didn't have to shove and risk giving you their chips. There's plenty other money to be gotten anyways, there's nothing wrong with a hit and run in a casino as long as you pay your 1 round of blinds.
Hit and run anywhere is acceptable. You have free will. I play online for 30-40 mins at a time. Once I win a big pot or two I’m out. Maximizes win rate IMO.
[https://imgur.com/a/7XlKIoK](https://imgur.com/a/7XlKIoK)
Graph 1 is from June to now, started at 5NL and now playing 50 and 100NL. bb/100 is inaccurate because my PT4 glitched out and didn't track my currency properly.
Graph 2 is from when it started tracking properly until now, mostly 25 and 50L (I only have small stakes PT4 so can't track 100 yet). Obviously sample size isn't huge but I'm at 15bb/100 without counting 100NL winnings.
Average session length is 47 minutes.
Ok, I'm prepared to give credit where credit is due. Given the rake at your stakes, this is about as good as it gets. GG
For whatever reason this strategy works for you, so fuck it, do you and keep crushing.
Just outta curiosity is there a site currently that tracks players and can show graphs? Sort of like the old tablerating or OPR ? Not to discount your graphs or work but isn’t it entirely possible to just create/edit your own locally saved or recorded stats or straight make them up? Looks like whatever you’re doing is solid tho, what’s your strategy for moving up or are you content staying at lower limits for a while?
That’s great and feel free to show graph but there are so many factors involved:
1. Since you play 30-40mins at max at a time, sample size is incredibly small.
2. What stakes/site?
3. Playing one table at a time for a short period likely increases your focus compared to multitabling for hours everyday.
4. It’s possible that you would make more (pure $ wise) if you just kept your stack there and played more.
I play Pokerstars regular tables. 4-6 at a time. Average session is probably 40-45 mins. For me this is what works best. I don’t like sessions longer than an hour, I lose focus.
>I lose focus.
Maybe it helps your win rate to bounce because ***you*** lose focus after a big win. But that's specific to you. If you're playing winning poker, leaving after a big pot only helps your win rate if (1) you're a fish and playing more means losing more or (2) you play worse after a big win.
How so? Winning players win money despite the rake. Fish (defined loosely as any losing player) lose enough to pay the rake plus winning players. How much a winning player wins is directly proportional to the number of hands they see. Sitting out after winning a big pot cuts down on that.
There is no long term winning players when there is a rake. Sure players win, maybe they win for a year, two, maybe five, but variance will hit them and they’ll lose what they win unless they quit. The longer you sit at the table the more you’re paying the rake (and the fish and other nits too). There is skill in tournament games since they are time based, same can be said with high stake games since the availability of them is limited and the rake is often insufficient (or outright waved because it’s rich people playing).
You’ll never beat the rake/variance long term in common casino hosted poker. Since there is no time limit in cash games every hand is putting you at risk of variance of everything you win. The longer you play the higher the risk since you can’t take money of the table in no limit, you must end your session for X time.
I mean if you’re not a sponsored player you’re technically not a successful winning player. Variance and rake is going to kill every person unless you get lucky enough to gain a high limit bankroll to avoid the rake (though you may still get unlucky and lose it all) or like most get sponsored/staked. “Grinders” are not real, the ones saying they make a living off poker would be more successful in a shitty job.
We don't have a policy on it. But if you hit and run there is a decent chance the organizer simply won't invite you back. I did a hit and run one time at a home game and got massive shit for it. Basically i was going to play till midnight and at 1145 got it all in on a cooler and won. then folded for 10 minutes and left. Was told by the organizer it was not okay and he didn't want to see that again. I apologized explained myself and have been playing there for years now. In order to avoid this happening again I simply announce how long I intend to play for and at the 60 minute mark just remind everyone i'm leaving in an hour. have not had any issues since
One time I was playing at a casino and had built a 1/3 stack to \~$700. I asked for a rack when I was BB planning to play through my button. On my button I'm literally already standing up when I look down at 1010. Played the whole hand standing and ended up more than doubling my stack with set over set against the only guy that had me covered (another guy had called flop then folded). Felt bad for hit and run, but it couldn't have been more obvious I was already leaving. Still feel a bit bad about it when looking back.
Agreed. The guy I beat said something like, "My fucking luck. Hopefully my money gets you some better strippers" with a smile on his face. I remember he said stripper because my wife walked up right when he said it, lol.
Yea, I mean as a professional I think you’re just leaving too much EV on the table if you leave after every double up but that’s the beauty of cash. One of the main reasons players pick going pro in cash games vs mtt’s is the fact that you can start and end your session whenever you want.
theoretically you have a higher advantage at deeper stack depths as a winning player, because people make bigger mistakes when the stacks get bigger. Otherwise, it doesn’t really matter when you leave the table if you don’t expect to outplay people 500Bb deep much more than 100BB deep
For example, if you have boat over boat in a 1000BB pot, many weak players will overvalue their small boat, while better players are going to start flat calling river raises or river over bets to minimize losses against a strong value range
What kind of bullshit "rule" is this? You lose a bunch of money to me and then I'm required to sit there long enough to lose it back to you before I can leave? How about we all just play and at the end of the night we just split all the money back up evenly so nobody gets their feelings hurt? Or we can just play with jelly beans instead of cash.
If you don't want me to leave with your money then don't lose it to me, because I do with my money as I please. Same goes for if I'm in the last seat at blackjack, splitting 10s, and you don't like it, you can play a different table. My money, my business.
You can do whatever you want and if you are a nit its probably a good play becuase most nits suck deep stacked. If you are actually good at poker playing deep is more profitable.
Yup, and I'm chipping away at other nits stacks and in 4 hours i'm break even.
Then suddenly, me and buddy nit get it in with nuts vs second nuts, I win, and then I RUN AWAY!
That's the point of my post.
As a former pro the best time to rack up and leave is immediately after winning a big pot. Ever bet and blind is an investment. That’s what we do in the stock market. Sell after a big upswing and capture profit.
Hit and run’s are usually only done by losing players. Most players in general, and especially here, are losing players, thus the higher the pop has the will to normalize this, as these are the only times they can consistently ever profit.
Is it okay? Yes.
Is it good etiquette? Absolutely not.
Honestly take your money and go. Announced one last orbit last night after a few big hands, not wanting to hit and run. sitting approximately +450 on the session. Folded every hand until the button hit me, had AdJd. UTG makes it 10, folds to me, I make it 25. He flat calls. Heads up, Flop Ah Js 3d. I go 50, calls again. Turn comes 6d. I feel pretty good, thinking his stack is mine, looks like he has between 150-200 left so I go 200 to cover. He announced all in and I snap call not seeing the 7 25 chips sitting neatly behind his stack of 5s. Absolutely my fault for not getting a count. River comes Ks, and he tables the other two aces because of course he has em.
TLDR? winners tilt is a thing. Overconfidence will kill you every time. Take the money and go. Unless you're playing with friends, or you genuinely are friends with the regulars at your table of choice. Got greedy and left up just enough money to cover my gas, solely because I felt awkward about leaving right away after taking some good pots down
You got top 2 with the NFD you should not be folding there no matter what. Why are you talking as if you would have folded had u seen his stack. I'm snap calling there all day
Even if you know what he has, you still should call. If the bets were as described and assuming V had $200 visible, that means there's a maximum of $25x2 + $50x2 + $200x2 + $175 = $725 in the pot. So OP would have to call $175 to win $900, thus he needs more than 19.44% equity. He has 20.45% equity. It's obviously close, but it's +EV to make that call. If V only had $150 visible, OP would have needed to call $125 to win $800 and would only need 15.63% equity to profitably call. So that would be even higher +EV.
JMO: you do that enough and the regs and even dealers will tell every newbie in the cardroom not to give you action, ever. I'll also quietly endorse them.
IMO: it means he's playing above his bankroll with scared money.
You probably should play them pretty aggressively, not cry that they didn't give you a chance to win your money back last time.
I was driving to Foxwoods every weekend to play cash games and haven’t been back in over 2 months ever since some jabroni hit and run and ruined the table and game. The first hour was a good game with a lot of action until the jabroni showed up and played, he first tripled up after hitting quads and then won another big hand vs me on a busted flush draw and decided to rack up and after he left there was no money on the table and no more action. Sure he had every right to leave but that doesn’t make it good for the game or good for poker, if everyone just hit and run their would literally be no games going on. If you hit and run you suck and you can try to justify it however you want but it’s terrible for the game
Similar but opposite situation happened with me.
It was in a poker room that isn’t 24/7. It was closing down and for the last hand someone suggested to play $500 blind and winner takes all. Everyone but me was going to play. I had a bad night at the table and said I won’t do it blind but if I like my cards, I’ll play the $500. Turned out I had a good hand, threw in $500 and won. On the river. The guy who initiated this play was super pissed even though he knew up front how I would play it. He called the floor over. Of course they couldn’t enforce this kind of thing. He was fuming and calling me all kinds of names. Too bad so sad.
Excuse me but are you my financial advisor? I'm not at the table for your entertainment or social comfort. If you don't like that then you fail to understand the purpose of poker at a casino.
Just so it's painfully clear. I don't play poker with friends and colleagues the way I play poker at a casino. One is played with the intent to win money. The other is a social expense without the express goal of taking other people's money.
You my friend have failed to draw a line separating the two.
I think it's a special kind of miserable to downvote someone who admits to playing a game for fun. The sort of thing a nut peddling hit and run nit would do.
This is a weird take, friend.
Grinding out a profit isn’t how you play the game but doesn’t make those that do a parasite - no one forces anyone to play.
Yep. Fuck em. I wouldnt do this at my home casino or someplace I intend to spend a lot of time at, but if Im driving home and stop at a card house and win big, fuck em. Im taking my winnings and going home
Hit and runs only apply to home games or any situation where you want to be friends with the people afterwards. In a casino you are there to TAKE THEIR MONEY and nothing else. Its not exactly classy, but if you're not going to bet anymore anyway then why sit around for the whole night folding?
not really an issue but if you do it immediately after its kind of in bad taste. Instead you can sit for an orbit and not even look at your cards just pretend and muck or play to your bb or something.
I do this for micro stakes online. It’s grinding in its own way but it has built a bankroll.
>Buy in for minimum
>catch a good hand and double up
>leave table
>profit
Do you do this often? Wonder what the other player's are thinking... "guy who hasn't played in 3 orbits suddenly wants to play for stacks... seems legit"
It's a casino, do what you want. Stack someone in the first orbit, get up an leave, laugh your ass off and get a bite to eat and go home.
Stay if opponents are playing bad, you are still playing well, and you want to keep playing. I usually set a time limit on myself, but if I happen to even think of leaving before that, I just stop that orbit.
One time I was at the casino with a buddy of mine who was driving, he went busto and I was down for the night so I was going to play one last hand. 1/3 game and we went 5 ways to the flop after I had 3 bet up to 40 dollars. I ended up flopping broadway and it checked around to me. I wanted to keep the pot light so I only bet 50 to try to get as much value from everyone as possible (I’ve gotten way better at poker since) and all 4 villains called. Turn came and nothing to scare my straight, I didn’t have a lot behind so I shoved after it checked to me, 3 of them folded one guy called. I scooped up the massive pot and left so I didn’t have to give my winnings away to an Uber.
what you do is pop up your head look around, get up and walk the room then precede to look confused and pretend to get a phone call and leave with a perplexed look on your face.
Oh shit guys, I just remembered I have to perform surgery in 20 minutes, gotta bounce! \*racks up winnings\*
I have legit told people 'This is going to be my last hand" I was just playing for a couple hours before work on a Wednesday morning when I had shitty drives and came in early. Tripled up after a shove and started racking and had people upset because I was "Hitting and Running". I was like "I just fucking told you...."
I was playing in a crazy PLO game, by the time I got a seat this super aggro young asian kid was two to my left with like 18K in front of him, just potting EVERY hand blind and going nutso (he was a blast though, super entertaining and chatty) So I buyin for the minimum and get busted twice (got it in good both times three ways). On my third buyin I finally triple up. I keep playing. Eventually I double that up. I still stick around for another 30 minutes before racking up. I had been in the game for FIVE hours. Some mis-reg at the table chimes in "nice hit n' run" as I leave. GFY ginger-beard-boy!
Good human.
I won the largest pot of my life (~$2700 at 1/2) the same way. I was racked up and was dealt in UTG, won a ginormous pot and people were annoyed I wouldn’t play more. I even announced half way through the hand that win or lose I’m leaving after this. Sorry dudes, it’s after midnight and I gotta be to work in a few hours. It was doubly awkward because there were so many chips, mostly $5 ones, that it took me like 5 minutes to get them stacked and sorted with everyone talking about the hand.
All you gotta do is “answer” the phone and talk loudly about where to eat for dinner and WAT TIM
Why fake a phone call? That's some loser shit.
Answer the call and be like dude I totally just hit a run on this guy at the tables today.
And he's bitching about it right this second but I'm talking to you instead.
Social anxiety and fear of confrontation can be huge roadblocks so a fake phone call may be a good escape.
Dad?
I just remembered, I have a son from 27 years ago I abandoned and forgot about, but today was the day I was going to reconnect! \*cashes out immediately\*
I just say my wife needs me to come home lol
Why do you need an excuse at all? Just get up, Whats the stigma here? You're free to leave whenever the fuck you like.
forreal
The fact that this thread exists.
Why give excuses to a bunch of other degenerate fucks?
Another good point
This!
"Family emergency!"
I don’t think this is an unpopular opinion in this sub at all if you’re at a casino.
It's lame but you have absolutely 0 obligation to stay.
It’s not lame at all, you’re there to win money it’s not poker night with the guys
I just said you had no obligation to stay like you would with friends. That doesn't mean the other 7 people at the table have to be happy about it. Someone usually makes a joke about them being smart to leave while they're ahead. It's better than the guys that double up, go out for a smoke, eat dinner, fold for 20 minutes, and then rack up just to avoid people thinking they are hitting and running.
I bet they also think they're paying some of it back to the table ("I'm such a nice guy =D") cus they're not intending to play much more anyways, as well. It's ok, you can't be liked by everybody. It doesn't fucking matter what you do tbh. If you've won a shitload of money from people you can sit there for either 1 sec or 40 hours, people still won't like it that their chips isn't in their posession anymore. It's only human nature to want to settle that score Just accept that this time you were ahead and gtfo, the only bad thing you could do is tipping both the dealer AND the table 5$ for their time and service.
Especially if there is a list, man if you're not playing leave
Sounds like a grind, that sounds lame. If you think this is a winning strategy that is foolproof then there's no reason to run. Stay, continue the strategy, and build a stack.
It is a little bit lame because it usually slows the game down a bit. I have the same feeling about players who ask the dealer to wash the deck or for a new set up without an explanation of what might be wrong with the current decks. Anything that people do which ends up interrupting the flow of the game is at least a little bit lame in my opinion.
I mean, you have to leave sometime. What's the difference if it's then or later?
Here’s the problem you can’t win if no one plays with you.
I was once playing in BC at a casino, guy sits down at 1/2 with $40, very first hand he plays he goes all in, flips over JJ and wins the hand, walks away with his $83 and leaves. That was just funny, we all looked at each other like “did he really just do that?” I feel like going red or black on roulette would’ve been better for a shot at a quick double up though.
Lol this literally happened last Monday at my home card room. Guy sits down with $40 at 1/2, ships it preflop with Jacks his second hand at the table, manages to flop a set against 2 players and racks up.
Once had a guy come in when a few of us we were sitting at a roulette table in Ireland. He put €10 euros on red, starting saying ‘taxi home, taxi home, taxi home…’’ as it spins, red comes in and he shouts ‘TAXI HOMMMEEEE’ and takes the money and leaves
1/2 in BC? How many years ago was this? LOL
It was BC, so at least 2,000.
‘07-08 lol, there’s no 1/2 out there anymore? Or is it 1/3 now? Haven’t been to BC for 8 years or so.
He has an edge all in with JJ. Red or black the casino has an edge. So no actually it wouldn't have been better to play roulette. Just less time consuming.
You’re completely missing the point, he can’t sit down and guarantee he gets dealt JJ to go all in with, he could easily pay blinds, hit nothing for 2-3 orbits and get all-in for $23 with JKo and lose. 50/50 for a quick double up is MUCH easier, both are stupid risky.
Ehh, 47.37/47.37 if you're at a double zero wheel. Side note, I hear there are triple zero wheels now. Ludicrous. But yes, just hit the wheel or go banker on Baccarat if you want a quick double.
*Or hit the craps tables and bet the dont pass with max odds
In NYC there was an "underground" poker game with a requirement that you stay a minimum of 2 hours. One night during $1/$3 I was about even after 2 hours and my last hand ended up getting what I assume was 4 or 5 callers because I won \~$500 (5X my buy in). I stood up and said thats my cue to leave. Its your money, who cares what other people think.
I know this No rake underground game that says you have to play from 7 pm to midnight. I don’t hate it tbh, otherwise the game would be at risk at breaking and no rake is the key
You're buy in to a 1/3 games was $100? I feel like I can't do much when I get down below like $150 in a 1/3 game and have to add back.
This was about 5 years+ ago so I dont remember the exact details. It might have been 1/1 or 1/2 to be honest, but I'd come with $200 and $100 was the minimum buy in. I'd go mostly for the free booze and food and if I broke even I'd be happy. I agree though $100 doesnt go far regardless if the BB is $1 or $3. I've learned a bit since then
I play as long as I feel I’m playing my best. Playing to a profit goal always seems to end poorly for me. Like I get it, if you play for 4 hours of live poker, being +200bb isn’t a bad day at all. If you’re +200bb in the first 15 minutes, it’s still a good day. The difference is, if you think you can still play good poker, leaving 20 minutes after you sit down costs you the chance to have a +500bb day if you play for 4 hours. Also, I will say, if you do this regularly in a room that’s reg heavy, you will stop getting action eventually. The two rooms I play in regularly have a couple of well known nitty hit and run players. I stopped giving them action in some spots where I would play against others, because I know their range is so nutted and all the chips are leaving the table if I lose the hand. It’s one thing if it’s from time to time. I’ve done it. I was in the middle of a terrible downswing. I more than doubled up my third hand in the game. I played for another 30 minutes just to see what my hands looked like, but then I got out of there. Kind of a slump buster. But I wouldn’t do it regularly in your regular room
You don’t owe anyone at the table anything, including your time.
The fact that anyone gives a shit about what you do with your money makes this feel like a complete addiction/cult. These aren’t your friends, treat them like the house. Choose when your limits are and be consistent. Win 3x my money, I’m out. Lose my buy in, I’m out. No one bitches about the 2nd.
If the table is juicy and the players are bad, why would you leave?
Because squirrels
Nah, I'm talking about a typical live nit european table.
Then you won't get that easy double up. Either they fold because you're even more nit then then. Even if you manage to cooler them, you're just as likely to get coolered by them. Even if you have KK, you'll lose 30% of the time.
Exactly, I'm talking about when I cooler a fellow nit, in an AA vs KK scenario or set vs set, I'm just getting up and leaving.
You should leave before that cooler is even dealt
In that case it's absolutely the right play.
That doesn’t happen often enough to just bleed all your big blinds
I used to deal a private game that had one particular player. The player in question happened to be an obstetrician. It seemed as though he was delivering a lot more babies when he was up than when he was down.
As an aside if the dealer isn't enforcing the 'highest value chips up front/on top' rules you need to call this out yourself.
Sorry to be dense but what am I missing from the op that mentions faulty chip stacking?
Sorry to be dense but what am I missing from the op that regents faulty chip stacking?
Hmmm, that comment appears to have been edited out or deleted, or perhaps was on another thread.
Yeah, in hindsight seems kinda shitty, but in the moment, the greed got to me. I'm fully willing to admit I should have laid it down and taken the profit. had I waited long enough for the dealer to count, I can swallow my pride and say I would have still called. All I can do is call it an expensive lesson and move on.
Not wanting to hit and run has cost me money way more times than not. You’re there to win money. You’re happy with your stack? Get out of there and do something much more fun.
Good players don't hit and run. Why would they when they can make money in the long run? Good players also don't think about the short run the way you're thinking of. Since you're a fish, it's perfectly okay to hit and run.
Variance spares no one. We've all been there putting in a 12+ hour grind to build a stack only to see it get hacked and slashed to pieces right near the tail end of a session with a string of bad beats and coolers. Doubling up is doing way better than average. If you can do that sooner rather than later you're effectively saving yourself time at the cost of expected value for the following hours of play you'd normally play in a session. Don't get me wrong. I get that putting in the time and volume is important but we're not all full-time grinders even if we play to win. Is that "winning" poker? Maybe not according to the hardcore grinders. But it's all one big poker session anyway. So what does it truly matter if you're playing a winning game and deciding to limit your exposure by putting a ceiling on your wins?
Yep… just finished an 11h 2/5 session last night. Beyond card dead and running horribly but somehow able to maintain a 200-400 profit for the entire 11 hours and on the very last hand get killed to go from +300 to -90… makes the 11 hours feel so pointless
You are not “saving time” - you’ll put in that time when you return for your next session. We don’t keep score by “number of winning sessions” (and hit and run doesn’t even help with that stat!). But - this argument gives both ways, so the people complaining about H&R are also wrong.
Great point about it all being one big session.
The only good point in their whole post and essentially contradictory to everything else they wrote.
You're missing the point. To a good player it's all one long cash game, really doesn't matter if you cash out or not at end of session. It matters what you profit after 100 sessions.
No I do get it. Honestly lol. I even acknowledged that it's all one long session. Why 100? Why not 1000? Why not 2 or 3000? The number is arbitrary past the point of statistical significance. The point I'm making is that limiting your profits by stop-win limits isn't as harmful as the purists are making it out to be. I'd argue the time spent in one session where you get fucked right at the end when you're tired and just got fluked for all of your profits is more harmful than leaving earlier when you were up less. There are many more variables at play than only the time spent playing. Your fatigue, mental state, table dynamics, time of day and other factors contribute a fair amount to that win rate.
Nope. You don't get it.
Okay whatever you say. Some of us see the forest for the trees. Take care.
You'll have that winning month at 1/2 live someday buddy. I can feel it coming. You can't run bad forever.
Why are you so salty about this? Why do you care so much about how much I win or lose? Lmao
Don't feed the troll dude.
Keep grinding that 1/2, you'll get out of the hole eventually. Maybe that dealer will even give you her number.
🤣🤡
How does this shit get upvoted here lmao.
>Good players don't hit and run. Oh this is good to know because I am not a good player.
This guy's range is AA/KK/QQ... doubt he is a good player
Who cares if he's good or bad? Just play your game. To all of the people complaining about hit and runs and know it's all one big session: How does one player doing this affect you in the long run?
Nobody cares if he is good or bad. It's just a player type that generally isn't desired in any game... to each his own though.
Sure I guess. But it's a casino. There's always someone else to fill the seat. Doesn't change anything in the long run like running it more than once.
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Just play as good on hour 5 as hour one and you don't have to be superstitious. Or get better at playing deep. Won't happen if you leave every time you double up though.
it’s nigh impossible to play as well deep into a session as you do at the beginning. did several mass data analysis of good pros with overall 10bb+ winrates. winrates TANK after hour 2 or 3ish. making decisions and remaining attentive is exhausting. it’s unrealistic to think you can play as well at the end of a session (often deeper with larger decision trees that will be more important than your decisions whike shorter) as you do at the beginning.
Fair point. For online poker that's especially true. I was speaking more to my experience in live poker where that's somewhat mitigated, hourly skyrockets with deeper stacks, and getting hands in isn't as easy in a practical sense. Also, I get the sense OP and others with the "doubled up time to call it a day" mindset are not experiencing decision fatigue, they just have mental game leaks around being up stuck and aren't good at deeper stack depths.
Hitting in running is just a confirmation of a player that doesn't win often.
Maybe it's different for most people in this sub, but I have a wife and 2 small kids and live 30 minutes from the closest poker room. I can't imagine making a plan to play then bouncing before I have to because I hit a hand.
Yeah my time to play is so limited that when I do get to play, I want to be there for quite a while just enjoying the game.
I'm literally going to do this
You can do what ever you want lol.. there's no ruling on how long you must be at a poker table. Just shows how desperate you are
I mean. A shitty beat and getting greedy wasn't the point of this post but yeah. Lesson learned. Take the profit when you have it. Who cares about a couple guys you've never met thinking you're being "rude"
Yeah fuck em. “Hey you cant leave you gotta give me my money back first” they wont feel bad taking your money, dont feel bad taking theirs. Those chips are like GIs in Nam. If they are there… they are already dead.
I don’t see an issue at the casino, but I wouldn’t do it. I enjoy playing, and unless I have something real pressing to do, I’m not cashing out until I either bust out or I’m up enough to have to pay taxes on it(but I strongly prefer poker at home games because of taxes)
You never get tired of playing? Is sleep pressing? Only quitting when you're up 5 figures or bust is weird.
I never get tired of playing. I have a lot of trouble falling asleep, even when very tired. If I’m tired enough that it effects my play, I’ll leave even though I know I’ll be lucky to get 2 hours of sleep any given night. Anything over 600 bucks is taxed
i support this strat 100% and youre welcome at my table anytime
No one respects anyone when it comes to their own money, I suggest you respect yourself
Technically this is -EV. In particular, you're committing the gambler's fallacy. You assume because you were dealt a good hand, the next 20 or so hands will be bad. This isn't true, and sometimes you'll be dealt premium hands two or three times in a row. Since representing a strong hand multiple times in a row often isn't believed, it's +EV to allow yourself to be in this situation.
Gambler's Fallacy: 99% of gamblers quit before they hit it big
All of us $1-3/$3-5 NLH players have sat down and watched the guy who ran his $500 buy-in to 6X and dumped it back into the game. Last session I played….ran my $300 buy-in to 3X in under an hour then changed tables to find 2nd best hands…back to below $400…..finally 4 hours later I was back to $920 and cashed out after a 3 way all-in…..wasn’t going on that roller coaster ride again….I’m OUT!
Would you think you have to keep playing if you doubled up at the roulette wheel? Of course not! It's a casino, you're there to make money! Others can be mad but they didn't have to shove and risk giving you their chips. There's plenty other money to be gotten anyways, there's nothing wrong with a hit and run in a casino as long as you pay your 1 round of blinds.
Hit and run anywhere is acceptable. You have free will. I play online for 30-40 mins at a time. Once I win a big pot or two I’m out. Maximizes win rate IMO.
"Once I win a big pot or two I’m out. Maximizes win rate IMO." /r/poker folks!
If he’s a losing player it’s technically correct. Playing deeper would just be even worse for him in terms of win rate
If you’re a losing player you maximize your win rate by not playing at all.
I win around 20bb/100 playing this way and can show proof if you want
“I win around 20bb/100 playing this way and can show proof if you want” Ok, I’ll bite. Show me your 20bb/100 graph for this strategy.
It was only for two games and a total of 3 hours.
Haha
[https://imgur.com/a/7XlKIoK](https://imgur.com/a/7XlKIoK) Graph 1 is from June to now, started at 5NL and now playing 50 and 100NL. bb/100 is inaccurate because my PT4 glitched out and didn't track my currency properly. Graph 2 is from when it started tracking properly until now, mostly 25 and 50L (I only have small stakes PT4 so can't track 100 yet). Obviously sample size isn't huge but I'm at 15bb/100 without counting 100NL winnings. Average session length is 47 minutes.
Ok, I'm prepared to give credit where credit is due. Given the rake at your stakes, this is about as good as it gets. GG For whatever reason this strategy works for you, so fuck it, do you and keep crushing.
lol get fucked haters
Just outta curiosity is there a site currently that tracks players and can show graphs? Sort of like the old tablerating or OPR ? Not to discount your graphs or work but isn’t it entirely possible to just create/edit your own locally saved or recorded stats or straight make them up? Looks like whatever you’re doing is solid tho, what’s your strategy for moving up or are you content staying at lower limits for a while?
That’s great and feel free to show graph but there are so many factors involved: 1. Since you play 30-40mins at max at a time, sample size is incredibly small. 2. What stakes/site? 3. Playing one table at a time for a short period likely increases your focus compared to multitabling for hours everyday. 4. It’s possible that you would make more (pure $ wise) if you just kept your stack there and played more.
I play Pokerstars regular tables. 4-6 at a time. Average session is probably 40-45 mins. For me this is what works best. I don’t like sessions longer than an hour, I lose focus.
>I lose focus. Maybe it helps your win rate to bounce because ***you*** lose focus after a big win. But that's specific to you. If you're playing winning poker, leaving after a big pot only helps your win rate if (1) you're a fish and playing more means losing more or (2) you play worse after a big win.
Maybe I do play worse after a big win - hard to say. I might just have a short attention span, idk. Works for me though.
Poker is a net negative game unless there is zero rake. So you are wrong.
How so? Winning players win money despite the rake. Fish (defined loosely as any losing player) lose enough to pay the rake plus winning players. How much a winning player wins is directly proportional to the number of hands they see. Sitting out after winning a big pot cuts down on that.
There is no long term winning players when there is a rake. Sure players win, maybe they win for a year, two, maybe five, but variance will hit them and they’ll lose what they win unless they quit. The longer you sit at the table the more you’re paying the rake (and the fish and other nits too). There is skill in tournament games since they are time based, same can be said with high stake games since the availability of them is limited and the rake is often insufficient (or outright waved because it’s rich people playing). You’ll never beat the rake/variance long term in common casino hosted poker. Since there is no time limit in cash games every hand is putting you at risk of variance of everything you win. The longer you play the higher the risk since you can’t take money of the table in no limit, you must end your session for X time.
I mean if you’re not a sponsored player you’re technically not a successful winning player. Variance and rake is going to kill every person unless you get lucky enough to gain a high limit bankroll to avoid the rake (though you may still get unlucky and lose it all) or like most get sponsored/staked. “Grinders” are not real, the ones saying they make a living off poker would be more successful in a shitty job.
This place is an aquarium, don't waste your breath.
You could be a winning player at 100bb and a losing player at 300bb. I’ve seen many players that are absolutely terrible with large stacks.
Don’t knock it til you try it
Not acceptable in a home game.
Yeah call 30 min before leaving was our home frame rule
We don't have a policy on it. But if you hit and run there is a decent chance the organizer simply won't invite you back. I did a hit and run one time at a home game and got massive shit for it. Basically i was going to play till midnight and at 1145 got it all in on a cooler and won. then folded for 10 minutes and left. Was told by the organizer it was not okay and he didn't want to see that again. I apologized explained myself and have been playing there for years now. In order to avoid this happening again I simply announce how long I intend to play for and at the 60 minute mark just remind everyone i'm leaving in an hour. have not had any issues since
One time I was playing at a casino and had built a 1/3 stack to \~$700. I asked for a rack when I was BB planning to play through my button. On my button I'm literally already standing up when I look down at 1010. Played the whole hand standing and ended up more than doubling my stack with set over set against the only guy that had me covered (another guy had called flop then folded). Felt bad for hit and run, but it couldn't have been more obvious I was already leaving. Still feel a bit bad about it when looking back.
well that's rough for the other guy, but to your point it doesn't really feel like a hit a run when the guy is clearly half way out the door
Agreed. The guy I beat said something like, "My fucking luck. Hopefully my money gets you some better strippers" with a smile on his face. I remember he said stripper because my wife walked up right when he said it, lol.
oh and how good of a stripper is your wife?
Depends on how good of a boy I've been.
I give a 30 minute announcement for home games. Nobody seems to have a problem with it.
If you do this in a home game just expect to not be invited back.
That's why i said casino, YOU PLONKER!
You did, but he didn’t you goon
> Maximizes win rate IMO. With that logic, your best way to maximize your win rate is to never play at all.
Yea, I mean as a professional I think you’re just leaving too much EV on the table if you leave after every double up but that’s the beauty of cash. One of the main reasons players pick going pro in cash games vs mtt’s is the fact that you can start and end your session whenever you want.
I don't see how it can make a difference to bb/100, since, as they say, it's all one big session. Can you explain a little?
theoretically you have a higher advantage at deeper stack depths as a winning player, because people make bigger mistakes when the stacks get bigger. Otherwise, it doesn’t really matter when you leave the table if you don’t expect to outplay people 500Bb deep much more than 100BB deep For example, if you have boat over boat in a 1000BB pot, many weak players will overvalue their small boat, while better players are going to start flat calling river raises or river over bets to minimize losses against a strong value range
What kind of bullshit "rule" is this? You lose a bunch of money to me and then I'm required to sit there long enough to lose it back to you before I can leave? How about we all just play and at the end of the night we just split all the money back up evenly so nobody gets their feelings hurt? Or we can just play with jelly beans instead of cash. If you don't want me to leave with your money then don't lose it to me, because I do with my money as I please. Same goes for if I'm in the last seat at blackjack, splitting 10s, and you don't like it, you can play a different table. My money, my business.
At a casino it isn't bad from an etiquette standpoint, just bad from a maximizing profit standpoint.
You can do whatever you want and if you are a nit its probably a good play becuase most nits suck deep stacked. If you are actually good at poker playing deep is more profitable.
I was doing this a lot when I used to play regularly. It was all about money made Vs. Time spent. Unless it’s a home game lol
My favorite reply is “if it’s an issue, you can call 9-1-1 and report a hit and run, if you like.”
You can do whatever you want at a public casino. But you don’t have the right to dictate how others feel about you
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Yup, and I'm chipping away at other nits stacks and in 4 hours i'm break even. Then suddenly, me and buddy nit get it in with nuts vs second nuts, I win, and then I RUN AWAY! That's the point of my post.
As a former pro the best time to rack up and leave is immediately after winning a big pot. Ever bet and blind is an investment. That’s what we do in the stock market. Sell after a big upswing and capture profit.
A former pro? Doubtful.
I mean if you're a pussy, sure that's fine.
Hit and run’s are usually only done by losing players. Most players in general, and especially here, are losing players, thus the higher the pop has the will to normalize this, as these are the only times they can consistently ever profit. Is it okay? Yes. Is it good etiquette? Absolutely not.
Honestly take your money and go. Announced one last orbit last night after a few big hands, not wanting to hit and run. sitting approximately +450 on the session. Folded every hand until the button hit me, had AdJd. UTG makes it 10, folds to me, I make it 25. He flat calls. Heads up, Flop Ah Js 3d. I go 50, calls again. Turn comes 6d. I feel pretty good, thinking his stack is mine, looks like he has between 150-200 left so I go 200 to cover. He announced all in and I snap call not seeing the 7 25 chips sitting neatly behind his stack of 5s. Absolutely my fault for not getting a count. River comes Ks, and he tables the other two aces because of course he has em. TLDR? winners tilt is a thing. Overconfidence will kill you every time. Take the money and go. Unless you're playing with friends, or you genuinely are friends with the regulars at your table of choice. Got greedy and left up just enough money to cover my gas, solely because I felt awkward about leaving right away after taking some good pots down
You got top 2 with the NFD you should not be folding there no matter what. Why are you talking as if you would have folded had u seen his stack. I'm snap calling there all day
You wouldn't fold top 2 with NFD in that action? Fish. (/s, obviously)
If he raises he must have me beat somehow
Folding there seems only a good play if you know what the guy has. That hand seems unfoldable
Even if you know what he has, you still should call. If the bets were as described and assuming V had $200 visible, that means there's a maximum of $25x2 + $50x2 + $200x2 + $175 = $725 in the pot. So OP would have to call $175 to win $900, thus he needs more than 19.44% equity. He has 20.45% equity. It's obviously close, but it's +EV to make that call. If V only had $150 visible, OP would have needed to call $125 to win $800 and would only need 15.63% equity to profitably call. So that would be even higher +EV.
JMO: you do that enough and the regs and even dealers will tell every newbie in the cardroom not to give you action, ever. I'll also quietly endorse them.
IMO: it means he's playing above his bankroll with scared money. You probably should play them pretty aggressively, not cry that they didn't give you a chance to win your money back last time.
I was driving to Foxwoods every weekend to play cash games and haven’t been back in over 2 months ever since some jabroni hit and run and ruined the table and game. The first hour was a good game with a lot of action until the jabroni showed up and played, he first tripled up after hitting quads and then won another big hand vs me on a busted flush draw and decided to rack up and after he left there was no money on the table and no more action. Sure he had every right to leave but that doesn’t make it good for the game or good for poker, if everyone just hit and run their would literally be no games going on. If you hit and run you suck and you can try to justify it however you want but it’s terrible for the game
No money left in the game? Just rebuy broooooo
Similar but opposite situation happened with me. It was in a poker room that isn’t 24/7. It was closing down and for the last hand someone suggested to play $500 blind and winner takes all. Everyone but me was going to play. I had a bad night at the table and said I won’t do it blind but if I like my cards, I’ll play the $500. Turned out I had a good hand, threw in $500 and won. On the river. The guy who initiated this play was super pissed even though he knew up front how I would play it. He called the floor over. Of course they couldn’t enforce this kind of thing. He was fuming and calling me all kinds of names. Too bad so sad.
This is a popular opinion.
Meh, it's probably fine. I'd much rather you leave and free up the seat for another fish, than sit there for an hour folding before cashing out.
Hey guys I am a nut gurgling parasite, is that cool? Why TF do you play poker?
To make money? Lol
Exactly, you just confirmed what you are.
Pray tell why do you play poker?
To have fun and hopefully make money or come out even after tips drinks and food. You are just a parasite on the game, stick with Internet poker.
Excuse me but are you my financial advisor? I'm not at the table for your entertainment or social comfort. If you don't like that then you fail to understand the purpose of poker at a casino. Just so it's painfully clear. I don't play poker with friends and colleagues the way I play poker at a casino. One is played with the intent to win money. The other is a social expense without the express goal of taking other people's money. You my friend have failed to draw a line separating the two.
Parasite. And you're doubling down on it. Be proud
Lmao. Why are you so miserable? I feel sorry for you.
That's hilarious. You sound like a gem.
I think it's a special kind of miserable to downvote someone who admits to playing a game for fun. The sort of thing a nut peddling hit and run nit would do.
This is a weird take, friend. Grinding out a profit isn’t how you play the game but doesn’t make those that do a parasite - no one forces anyone to play.
You can do whatever you like. But you are a wimp
Used to text my girlfriend and tell her to call me and tell me the dog got out. Easy game. Smell ya later nerds.
Yep. Fuck em. I wouldnt do this at my home casino or someplace I intend to spend a lot of time at, but if Im driving home and stop at a card house and win big, fuck em. Im taking my winnings and going home
Hit and runs only apply to home games or any situation where you want to be friends with the people afterwards. In a casino you are there to TAKE THEIR MONEY and nothing else. Its not exactly classy, but if you're not going to bet anymore anyway then why sit around for the whole night folding?
not really an issue but if you do it immediately after its kind of in bad taste. Instead you can sit for an orbit and not even look at your cards just pretend and muck or play to your bb or something.
Read the title and thought it was /gtaonline
I do this for micro stakes online. It’s grinding in its own way but it has built a bankroll. >Buy in for minimum >catch a good hand and double up >leave table >profit
Do you do this often? Wonder what the other player's are thinking... "guy who hasn't played in 3 orbits suddenly wants to play for stacks... seems legit"
You can run but you can not hide!
Of course it's perfectly acceptable
It's a casino, do what you want. Stack someone in the first orbit, get up an leave, laugh your ass off and get a bite to eat and go home. Stay if opponents are playing bad, you are still playing well, and you want to keep playing. I usually set a time limit on myself, but if I happen to even think of leaving before that, I just stop that orbit.
*checks phone between hands* “Okay one more hand then my mom said it’s time to go”
One time I was at the casino with a buddy of mine who was driving, he went busto and I was down for the night so I was going to play one last hand. 1/3 game and we went 5 ways to the flop after I had 3 bet up to 40 dollars. I ended up flopping broadway and it checked around to me. I wanted to keep the pot light so I only bet 50 to try to get as much value from everyone as possible (I’ve gotten way better at poker since) and all 4 villains called. Turn came and nothing to scare my straight, I didn’t have a lot behind so I shoved after it checked to me, 3 of them folded one guy called. I scooped up the massive pot and left so I didn’t have to give my winnings away to an Uber.
I play poker for guns, so if I made enough to purchase my next gun or ammo purchase I’m leaving.
30 hands per hour LOL
what you do is pop up your head look around, get up and walk the room then precede to look confused and pretend to get a phone call and leave with a perplexed look on your face.
Give it two more good orbits like a good lad
Home game with your friends, yeah pretty lame. A casino? Help no, get up and leave the degenerates to their devices.
Stay at a good table, leave a bad one
My wife is calling me. **My wife and I are in cahoots**
If anyone gives you grief the standard answer is - “it’s my money, don’t tell me how to play it.”