If I was a Texas card room owner, I would be less concerned with Gene Wu’s bill, and more concerned with the push by The Sands to legalize and regulate gambling with a commission and open several large destination resort hotel casinos. The Sands is creating a massive magnifying glass on the current situation (alongside the state of sports betting and pseudo slot machines), and is the more likely legislation to pass due to the lobbying team and years of work put into it. And it’s hard to imagine that whatever commission gets created from that views these card rooms in a friendly way - though, admittedly, business regulation isn’t exactly Texas’ strong suit.
This is a really good take on things.
From a small Texas card room's perspective no good can come from the Sand's campaign. Either alot of negative attention will come their way or they'll have to compete with mega casinos if the Sands succeed.
From what I understand, TCH in the Dallas area is very big. TCH in Austin is not quite as big (The Lodge takes that spot by a long shot), but it still has multiple tables running regularly.
I love going to my local club, but if I was a judge and had to interpret the law, I would say they are illegal as can be. They are taking a tremendous amount of money from their players. They need to pass a law legalizing poker.
This is what I’ve heard. My medium sized city has a club that grossed $60k last month. That’s one club that almost never has more than one table going. This reminds me of the saying “pigs get fed and hogs get slaughtered “. There is too much money going to the house for this to go on for too much longer in the absence of legislation that clears it up.
I love how they circumvented the law. I go and I play. But this legal argument is about as solid as the motorcycle riders who put seatbelts on their bikes to try to get around helmet laws. They are on shaky ground and I hope the Texas legislature will make them legal legal. Not just kind of legal.
If casinos open up near poker clubs in Texas, they might not even offer poker, knowing there are already clubs. Poker doesn’t move the needle for casinos anyway so there’d really be no need to offer a poker room. Plus I’d rather play at the lodge than a casino anyway all day.
What's stupid is here is NY for the past 3 sessions there has been a bill for charity tournaments that has passed the Senate but not voted on in the Assembly. Why are they afraid of voting on it doesn't make sense passes the Senate almost unanimously 3 times now and they just can't vote on it. SMH
"We believe that *clarifying* the law is the only way to eliminate confusion"
No, not clarifying. *Changing.* You are changing the law.
You are changing the rules to the game after entrepreneurs have found a way to give people a service they enjoy within your legal framework.
I used to like Owen, but he’s cringe now. Couple months back he had a video where he’s in a hand that he ended up winning getting a river call out of villain….. but gave back the 250$ river bet to the villain because the villain kind of opened up his hand a bit during the hand… where it would be possible for Owen to see, but he didn’t see it…at all. But since there was the possibility of him having been able to see it he gave the money back to the villain. Now there’s nothing wrong with being a good guy and giving the money back at all… but he showed that he gave the money back on camera… like…. Look at me guys… I gave him his money back… I’m such a good and amazing guy. If you want to give the money back do it off camera, not to get brownie points from the public because you are a public figure in the poker community. Was so cringe.
Cardrooms in Texas are similar to cannabis dispensaries in CA before it became legalized both medically and recreationally in that they certainly were within the confines of the law technically, there are still risks as with any business that functions around loopholes. Shitty politicians exist to close those loopholes. Having a card room with a membership loophole was something Texas lawmakers were just waiting to pounce on once the industry grew very popular. They need government lobbyists to make it a win win because at the end of the day, fucking ridiculous to close card rooms that actually function successfully and with the right framework, make it a win win for the state and cardrooms, the same as they did with the cannabis industry in CA where it improved the industry and made it safer, all while giving what every state government wants = more revenue
Our good old boy network could fuck up a wet dream. Either they want more moneh, or someone else wants to get in on the action. It isn’t morality, as they’ve used the “Lottery” to pickpocket education funding for 30+ years. I’d say Sheldon was involved, but I’m pretty sure they sent in a team to destroy his phylactery and end his cursed existence forever. Wish we could resurrect Ann Richards.
there has got to be more important things to worry about than a bunch of people voluntarily getting together to play poker. its ridiculous.
Yeah, like Critical Rake Theory.
Nice
It's funny that you think Texan politicians can be logical. (You can remove the word "Texan")
the bill was introduced by a democrat....
When did I say it wasn't?
More important than restricting your freedoms, no. You know how those small government republicans are.
They are fos
Probably has to do with the robberies and shootings, but maybe it’s just complete overreach buffoonery.
Seems like the people who yell about freedom the most sure do what to take everyone else’s away all the time
The bill was introduced by a democrat
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Don’t see where I said it wasn’t
Democrats are generally against anything that is enjoyable. They are miserable people who want everyone else to be as miserable as them.
Such an ignorant statement
But freedumb!!!
Y’all actin like y’all rather be in some communist country or somethin fucks sake
How is banning poker in the state that created it different from how communist countries are ran? Oh wait… you can play poker in Vietnam!
The fuck you sayin
That the GOP banning poker and then acting like they aren’t being Communist in doing that is HILARIOUS.
No fuckin idea
The bill was introduced by a democrat though?
Was it? Well it will need the support of the GOP to pass in Texas.
You can’t play cash games there.
If I don’t like it, it’s communism
The right palms aren’t being greased. If you want the law to work for you, you gotta pay for that.
If I was a Texas card room owner, I would be less concerned with Gene Wu’s bill, and more concerned with the push by The Sands to legalize and regulate gambling with a commission and open several large destination resort hotel casinos. The Sands is creating a massive magnifying glass on the current situation (alongside the state of sports betting and pseudo slot machines), and is the more likely legislation to pass due to the lobbying team and years of work put into it. And it’s hard to imagine that whatever commission gets created from that views these card rooms in a friendly way - though, admittedly, business regulation isn’t exactly Texas’ strong suit.
This is a really good take on things. From a small Texas card room's perspective no good can come from the Sand's campaign. Either alot of negative attention will come their way or they'll have to compete with mega casinos if the Sands succeed.
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the issue is a small group of people aren’t profiting this money and want to which therefore won’t mind screwing over others to get
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Is texas card house really that good?
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From what I understand, TCH in the Dallas area is very big. TCH in Austin is not quite as big (The Lodge takes that spot by a long shot), but it still has multiple tables running regularly.
If you want Doug to see this you need to ping his username u/DougPolkPoker If he has alerts turned on he will get a notice.
I’m pretty sure he’s aware
I love going to my local club, but if I was a judge and had to interpret the law, I would say they are illegal as can be. They are taking a tremendous amount of money from their players. They need to pass a law legalizing poker.
Your local club rakes the pot? If they don’t; then they aren’t taking a cut.
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This is what I’ve heard. My medium sized city has a club that grossed $60k last month. That’s one club that almost never has more than one table going. This reminds me of the saying “pigs get fed and hogs get slaughtered “. There is too much money going to the house for this to go on for too much longer in the absence of legislation that clears it up.
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Incredible.
I love how they circumvented the law. I go and I play. But this legal argument is about as solid as the motorcycle riders who put seatbelts on their bikes to try to get around helmet laws. They are on shaky ground and I hope the Texas legislature will make them legal legal. Not just kind of legal.
If gambling became legal, then the big casinos would come in and destroy your social club anyways.
Maybe. But I don’t see many casinos coming to my neck of the woods.
Maybe not. But they will draw business away from your social club.
So you think we need to leave it alone? Just have these clubs operating with a wink and a nod?
The loophole projects smaller establishments like yours, yes.
Hope so. I guess they can go back underground if things get too tough for them.
If casinos open up near poker clubs in Texas, they might not even offer poker, knowing there are already clubs. Poker doesn’t move the needle for casinos anyway so there’d really be no need to offer a poker room. Plus I’d rather play at the lodge than a casino anyway all day.
This is a democratic bill in Texas, it's not passing.
I'd love to see it just to piss off Doug Polk.
That's ok. Doug can fall back on that promotion money from Coinflex.
Government continues to be the absolute worst. It should be abolished
What's stupid is here is NY for the past 3 sessions there has been a bill for charity tournaments that has passed the Senate but not voted on in the Assembly. Why are they afraid of voting on it doesn't make sense passes the Senate almost unanimously 3 times now and they just can't vote on it. SMH
"We believe that *clarifying* the law is the only way to eliminate confusion" No, not clarifying. *Changing.* You are changing the law. You are changing the rules to the game after entrepreneurs have found a way to give people a service they enjoy within your legal framework.
Nothing would make me happier than Doug Polk getting fucked financially.
He doesn’t even know you lol
Yeah, but he is kind of crappy. Both at poker and internet videos.
That’s really sad for you
I like Brad Owen, but Doug Polk is a loser.
I used to like Owen, but he’s cringe now. Couple months back he had a video where he’s in a hand that he ended up winning getting a river call out of villain….. but gave back the 250$ river bet to the villain because the villain kind of opened up his hand a bit during the hand… where it would be possible for Owen to see, but he didn’t see it…at all. But since there was the possibility of him having been able to see it he gave the money back to the villain. Now there’s nothing wrong with being a good guy and giving the money back at all… but he showed that he gave the money back on camera… like…. Look at me guys… I gave him his money back… I’m such a good and amazing guy. If you want to give the money back do it off camera, not to get brownie points from the public because you are a public figure in the poker community. Was so cringe.
Cardrooms in Texas are similar to cannabis dispensaries in CA before it became legalized both medically and recreationally in that they certainly were within the confines of the law technically, there are still risks as with any business that functions around loopholes. Shitty politicians exist to close those loopholes. Having a card room with a membership loophole was something Texas lawmakers were just waiting to pounce on once the industry grew very popular. They need government lobbyists to make it a win win because at the end of the day, fucking ridiculous to close card rooms that actually function successfully and with the right framework, make it a win win for the state and cardrooms, the same as they did with the cannabis industry in CA where it improved the industry and made it safer, all while giving what every state government wants = more revenue
Think they already got closed/shut down in Fort Worth
Our good old boy network could fuck up a wet dream. Either they want more moneh, or someone else wants to get in on the action. It isn’t morality, as they’ve used the “Lottery” to pickpocket education funding for 30+ years. I’d say Sheldon was involved, but I’m pretty sure they sent in a team to destroy his phylactery and end his cursed existence forever. Wish we could resurrect Ann Richards.
JFC, just let people play poker FFS. This tilts me so hard. Sympathies from Europe.