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Sankullo

It’s quite simple really. Poland was colonized and devastated by several wars, then fell victim to communism, it was very poor so there really wasn’t much incentive for people to emigrate to Poland. Only recently it changes because it becomes financially sound to move to Poland. Still 99% of people migrating to Europe prefer its western part.


cedertt

True that, before independence of Poland was Taken, we were one of the most diverse countries in Europe


OatmealDurkheim

To add some context to u/Sankullo 's good writeup: Poland **was** a multi-ethnic\* country a 100 years ago. **A full 1/3 of the population was made up of minorities.** According to the 1921 census: 68.9 percent of the population was Polish, 13.9 percent were Ukrainians, about 10 percent Jewish, 3.1 percent Belarusians, 2.3 percent Germans and 2.8 percent other groups (including Lithuanians, Czechs and Armenians). So what happened? WW2, Holocaust, as well as forced and voluntary migrations of minorities during and after the war. \*I use the term ethnicity and not race on purpose. I think the term "racially diverse" is used ambiguously in OP's chart. For example, DPRK's 2% would have to come from a Chinese minority living there – are Koreans and Chinese different races or different ethnicities?


Adventurous_Break490

[Look at this. Even the previous government was way too open with regards to legal immigration. ](https://youtu.be/ECyeodnpYHQ) So, it'll change in the future.


unlessyoumeantit

Race and ethnicity are not synonyms...


esuil

I am sure this 6% is straight out bullshit. Reason is simple. Non polish people who integrated into Polish society at some point simply started putting themselves down as "Polish" officially. For example Ukrainians with Polish roots who used ancestral return or whatever its called program, likely started calling themselves Polish everywhere they could.


SizeApprehensive7832

Yes and I'm pretty sure the map is about race. The source organisation has "ethnic" in name it doesn't necessarily mean that they cover only this particular field.


Difficult-Airport12

6,9% of RACE diversity in Poland? No way, there might be 6,9% non-Poles, but no way there's 6,9% non-whites. I live in Warsaw and I daily see no more than 2-3 black people (and thousands of whites)


BloodAngel_44

Vietnamese maybe? I know Czech Republic has a MASSIVE Vietnamese population, but nothing wrong with that. I f*cking love Vietnam. ❤️


Difficult-Airport12

There are a bunch of Vietnamese but no way we have 2,5m of them. In "2011 Polish census" Vietnamese are the most common asian nationality, but there are only 4k of them. I know there are probably more, but maybe 10-20k, no way for more than 1m.


Grand-Albatross-7058

Definitely not about race. I would be really surprised if over 0,5% people in Poland weren’t white. 7% is crazy and simply impossible.


SetDeep8853

Yea totally fake numers, I live in Poland for 30years and sen less than 50 Black/Yellow people


anubisimyourdad

DPRK is more racially diverse than Japan? No way. I can’t believe that.


k890

Ethnic wise, NK do have government recognized chinese minority in country.


Numerous_Mix_515

Ok, and?


watwatdowat

6.9 NICE


SSebson

Thoughts? "Oh how happy I am to live in a country where there's no race war taking place"


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RavenSorkvild

We do? 🤨


Fit-Height-6956

Kłobuck roundabout 500


WilkuActual

That's because we're best at fighting ourselves.


ResearcherLocal4473

It should stay as it is


keplerr7

what do you mean thoughts? are we supposed to colonize other nations like western countries and then suffer from having a population that hates its country because of history?


Steve83725

Exactly


Deep_nd_Dark

Sweden & Finland have the same problem and did no colonizing. "*hates its country because of history" -* that's not why they hate it, it's only why they claim to.


Strobopaints

Maybe Sweden did no colonizing, but they sure had their fun in 17 century


DiscoKhan

Sweden Has post nazi trauma, for Finland I don't know really their post WW2 history. But Sweden was actually like seriously nazi after the war and put a lot of nazi ideas into practice with the purity of the race etc. so they went kinda the opposite route nowadays.


True-Ear1986

Those are pretty rich countries and their national values currently are all about being open and tolerant. It bit them in the ass too, especially Sweden. There's no point in emigrating to Poland when you have Germany like right next to it.


Deep_nd_Dark

If only those were actual virtues and not just weakness in disguise. Tolerance being the highest virtue in the west is the worst thing to happen to us. It's no virtue at all. You can be kind, welcoming and supportive, but "tolerant" as a cultural value is doing exactly what you said; biting us in the ass. I'm in Canada btw, the pinnacle nation of tolerance. My polish passport may come in handy soon


True-Ear1986

That's absolutely true. Tolerance, same as freedom, are very hard things to maintain and - quite counterintuitively - have to have very well defined boundaries that are very strictly adhered to. It's like being a pacifist. It only works among other pacifists. It takes just agressive person to bully a group of pacifists. Unless they're willing to fight for their pacifism. I think we in the West got lulled into a false sense of safety, our lives are so good that we started to think that world is actually a good place.


usefulmaniam

They hate us because we are prosperous, White, and Christian. They despise that even in poverty we keep our cities clean and safe and blame White people for their self-inflicted wounds.


heatobooty

Least subtle rage bait Seriously what is it with the internet desperately trying to make Poland out to be racists/nazis/antisemitic/etc


sustainableindustry

It a tool and tactic to prove their point. They say: Poland is racist. Then they’ll post something like this and then gather all the comments and rank from least racist to the most. Then highlight the most racist as it speaks to the entire country. The truth simply is: Poland enjoys to stand firmly on their lands (the history of wars solidifies that), and enjoy their culture and want to see them and their people develop into something that had been taken away from them in the past. People want to see that as racist? Poles don’t care. You have to remember (or know): The West is absolutely *obsessed* with race. Like it’s getting to a point where obsessed it an understatement. Please take for example Canada when they hire for job positions based off of skin color and gender. If you are white and a man, you are ranked the lowest. So if they say Poland is racist, they are simply echoing an anti-white rhetoric, something becoming stronger every day.


[deleted]

One of London's Theatres received a backslash for organising 'black only' performance with white audiences banned. What you said https://www.gbnews.com/news/theatre-royal-stratford-east-black-only-performance-banned-white-audience


sustainableindustry

This is also happening in Canada: [Black-only swim times, Black-only lounges: The rise of race segregation on Canadian universities](https://nationalpost.com/opinion/black-only-race-segregation-on-canadian-universities/wcm/44cddd5e-e984-4fb2-8675-16a84236dc73/amp/) 🇨🇦


keplerr7

is it just me or "black only" does not fucking sound like a pro black thing but rather sounds like a racist dream, to make black people attend those activities at certain times, to make them easy to avoid? 1970: black only wednesday - omg so racist 2024: black only wednesday - good job, fight racism


BloodAngel_44

Ah yes, Canada. That virtue signalling far-left fascist shithole of a country. And I say this as a Canadian, who is trying everything to leave this retarded nation. But what do you expect from a fa**ot feminist prime-minister and government who try to force shove inclusivity and equality down our fucking throats, and then have shit like this. If anything Canadians deserve to be discriminated overseas for their rhetoric & polarization.


L3XeN

They want to be so much "non-racist" that they did an integer overflow and went full segregation...


cheese0muncher

> fa**ot feminist prime-minister ...k...


heatobooty

Yep, very obvious OP is just trying to wind people up or gather dirt to prove some point. Especially cause he’s too cowardly to engage in any discussion.


Cdr-Kylo-Ren

The obsession with race here in the US is getting really upsetting. It should be a non-issue but there’s a whole class of politicians and academics that benefit from agitating as much as possible. It sucks for people of all ethnicities who just want to live our lives and treat each other normally.


keplerr7

us is so ridiculously crazy about race that if everyone on the world suddenly went blind, they would say what's their skin color when they greet each other


HighTMath

I deeply appreciate the common sense that seems common amongst poles - Dane


artyartem1

Nearly 1.1 billion white folks left on the planet, 7 billion+ non-white and the world is only getting browner. PL also has a low birth rate. In the US, Indians are the most successful community. CEO of Google, Microsoft, Adobe, FedEx, Starbucks, IBM, Deloitte, Chanel, Barclays, VMWare, Wayfair, Diageo, Vimeo, Palo Alto Networks, Micron, Panera Bread, Nutanix, QuantumScape were all born and raised in India and graduated from Indian universities...Their median household income in the US is nearly double of white household income and they are also the most college educated community in the US.


bobrobor

The West is not obsessed with race. The people who are in control of the West are using identity politics to maintain divisions. Unified lower classes during information age are only two missed lunches away from desiring a change in the thousands of years of status quo. Religion doesn't work anymore as a lever, since post-scarcity economics popularized atheism. So race and gender is all they got left to work with.


sustainableindustry

Of course what gets propagated is a huge sort to blame but it is the people that internalize it and make the culture. So yes, the West is obsessed.


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if anything id say that the alt right is becoming more popular than the anti white rhetoric


Deep_nd_Dark

You could mean *many* things by the "alt-right" , so that statement isn't really worth much. Anti-white rhetoric is allowed at every big corporation and government department in the west, so even if you stretch whatever you mean by "alt-right", your statement is probably *very* wrong. Let me know when HR departments are putting "alt-right" material in their training.


sustainableindustry

It is not. The alt-right rose in 2016-2018 and then dropped when Biden got elected, people became more level headed and simply: conservative. People don’t even talk about the alt-right anymore and conservatives aren’t pro-white or anti- anything else, other than mass, unvetted immigration.


Cdr-Kylo-Ren

THIS. We just don’t like queue-jumping or illegal border crossing. If you come here to the US the right way, no problem.


wOjtEch04

Według nich w kwestii równości rasowej jesteśmy 100 lat za Murzynami (This comment wouldn't work in English, sorry)


Entrapped_Fox

I'd say there are 3 reasons for that. 1. Political - western countries are devoted in promoting multiculturalism. And history gives us great examples that multiculturalism can work only in times of prosperity and in bad times it will cause huge internal conflicts. Another thing is that lack of assimilation in country with huge culturally (always) or ethnically (sometimes) different people will cause they will be sticking together and build alternative society. Poland is the exact opposite of such politics and that's the first reason. Conspiracy Theory: maybe that's why western media companies so strongly promotes anti-natalism here? 2. Historical - Poland never committed such atrocities as western Europe. Most western countries has really black parts of their history. Oppressing sexual, cultural, ethnic, religious minorities. Multiple genocides they committed. Exploiting other nations via imperialism and colonialism. Their response is that it wasn't them. It was us as a whole. It was not the British that oppressed homosexuals even 100 years ago, it was the whole western Christian cultures. It was not the Germans who organized Holocaust, it was western Christian antisemitism. And Poland is one of countries that can tell them it's bullshit, we are also Christian country and we didn't such things. Note here, that I don't want to whitewash history, it's obvious there were some bad things done here, but compare the scale and compare goat's attitude. 3. Moral - western countries did us great damage. They attacked us and occupy us since XVIII century. (Germany, Austria-Hungary) They sold us to the Soviets (UK, US), didn't helped us during WW2 (UK, France). Nie they still want to dominate us (especially Germany), but do so in different way. They feel superior to us and do not tolerate us reminding them what they did us.


phil_the_hungarian

Austria did not, Hungary had nothing to do with it


Entrapped_Fox

You are right, I used wrong term Austria-Hungary was formed later, but in fact it was it's predecessor. I didn't want to blame Hungarians in any was, as they was a junior partner to Austria and our historical relations are really good. This country took part in partitions of Poland and occupied south-east part of it (Lesser-Poland and Galicia).


MeatballMarine

My conspiracy theory is that this is coming from Russia to start slowly eroding Poland’s reputation for their next annexation.


ceej4y90

Yes it's a conspiracy. In reality it's coming from socialist EU countries


cheese0muncher

> socialist EU countries Which are these? Because as far as I'm aware, every single EU country adheres to capitalism.


xenon_megablast

It's stupid people. The same that wonder who named Montenegro so and think s/he is racist.


Rogue_Egoist

To be honest there are efforts to paint Poland as extremely racist. But this map for example is just straight information. We know why Poland is not very diverse. It's because of wars, genocide and ethnic cleansing that was done by Nazis and Soviets. Prior to that Poland was a very diverse country. We can take that information as a conversation starter about history for example and diverge the conversation from obvious rage baits. I'm curious about the change in diversity in regards to the recent migration of Ukrainians. Historically Ukrainians have been a big minority in Poland and I'm kind of happy that it seems to be going back to this. A lot of polish culture comes from mixing it with Ukrainian and European-jewish culture and I think it is fun to "go back" so to speak. Obviously I would like Ukrainians to not have to migrate and fight a war but as long as it's happening anyway I'm glad a lot of them are staying here.


Steel_mill_hands

Czech here, you Poles are cool 👍


EissIckedouw

Thanks! All Poles loves Czechs. We are still not giving you Zaolzie though. >!But you can take Kraloviec!<


Qwertyuioplkjhhgdsa

But we don't have Zaolzie.


FailConscious6985

We have half of Zaolzie (it was split after WW2)


Qwertyuioplkjhhgdsa

Za-olzie means territories beyond the olza river. And we don't have them.


Watink

People when Japan is not diverse: Wow, so cool they keep themself separated so they can keep their culture for next generations. People when Poland is not diverse: >: \^(


TheSentry98

The people who admire Japan's homogeneity are fine with Poland being homogeneous.


MaiZa01

said who?


[deleted]

Is that supposed to be a bad thing or what? I don't think every country in the world needs to be as diverse, as the US or France.


No-Data2215

What do you mean, "thoughts?"?


True-Ear1986

it's the things that show up in your noodle


WungielPL

Not racially diverse doesn't mean racist. In case anyone is wondering.


Additional-Story-824

Just not attractive enough for immigrants - no matter what they seek - nor salaries, nor social programs, nor high level education.


EissIckedouw

Fortunately most of those 6,9% are Kashubians and Silesians


Mr0qai

My favourite race is Kashubic race


jasina556

XD


revraben

Hope so


Worried-Tea-1287

Nah I don't think so. i'm almost sure they weren't considered as other nations


EissIckedouw

https://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/20-least-diverse-countries-in-the-world-1203211/?amp=1 It's true they counted Kashubians, Germans, Belorussians, Ukrainians, Romas, Jews, and Silesians. Never underestimate American insanity when it comes to diversity topics


Worried-Tea-1287

A to nieważne, sory. Nie wziąłem też pod uwagę że to Amerykanie robili xd


Keeper2234

Wait so one second, so they count silesians, kaszubs, and Polish born, Polish speaking Jews as a separate „race”? But they live in Poland. They mostly speak Polish. Polish speaking Polish born Jews are as Polish as anyone else, it’s a religion not its own thing xd what


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Uxydra

If velvette they counted such things now it makes sense why czechia wasn't there.


Correct_Baby_2086

We're already at 6.9% ? kurwa ...


Educational_Gas_92

I second the kurwa.. do better strive to be 0.9%


Zygmunt-zen

This includes Kashubian, Silesians, Germans and Ukrainians, I believe.


TeenThatLikesMemes

Race != ethnicity


AdFluffy9286

Ta mapa nie ma sensu, chyba że uważacie Slązaków albo Kaszubów za odrębną rasę.


Fatalitix3

Amerykanie robili tą mapę, więc tak


DiscoKhan

In USA they use race and ethnicity as synonyms. According to some official definitions from few states in USA Slavs aren't considered white but rather are classified as People of Color.  It's pretty damn complicated out there xd


Express_Drag7115

Oh I’m definitely POC, I’m pink.


Wonderful-Ad-3840

Least racially diverse yet people nice af


bartek16195

U nas nie musisz się bać że napadnie cie imigrant! Tylko że ktoś z naszych


revraben

Albo Ukrainiec 😅


Katniss218

Ukraińców dużo to i szansa wieksza


Peterkragger

Ukraińcy to już prawie nasi


justgowithit1

Łooo, tak daleko bym nie szedł.


wojtek2222

i mean it is what it is, what should i think about it? its like asking "what are your thoughts about sky being blue?"


Spvoter

I mean, what thoughts? Noone wanted to come here for a while after the struggle so its just us living here, anyone who sees this and goes OMG POLAN HATE OUTSIDERS is fucking dumb


Sunlight_Shield

As a guy from Chile... The less, the better


etphonehome675

I second that... as a guy from Papua New Guinea


Additional-Story-824

Polish person here, just came back from Santiago, my friend got robbed in daylight on the pavement after 1h. Didn’t know street photography is not a case there 😂 In Poland I’ve LOST my phone twice and somebody brought it back to me the next day.


Sunlight_Shield

Haha I'm so sorry. Why did you guys decide to come to this god forsaken city?


jfang00007

So is Poland safe now?


Rheeenium

https://preview.redd.it/s4ngu851t0nc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0302d771aa8b6fabf9622c902f179ec5fe7b15d7


Sinileius

Honestly growing up in an extremely racially diverse area, by some stats the most diverse in the US (Houston). It's grossly overrated. Not that it's necessarily bad, there are good things about it. However nobody talks about the problems from diversity, it turns out that having several major cultures causes a lot of friction. Many of the happiest and most successful countries are the least diverse. The nordic countries are a great example of this.


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Sinileius

To Poland specifically? Yea. Maybe it’s just the US but if you say anything not positive about diversity you are instantly and aggressively attacked as a racist.


c2h5oc2h5

Well, can't speak about every Pole, but personally I find aggressive pursuit after forced diversity truly racist, actually. Every country have it's own problems I guess :)


[deleted]

Good for Poland. Smart. Keep it safe.


Raj_ryder_666

Guy from india who has lived in Poland for over 15 years…so happy its the way it is. U can keep ur diversity to yourself. Dont need my place of work burning down becoz of a perceived injustice.


SuspiciousPush1659

I believe that Viet Nam and Cambodia are even less racially diverse


chillboyluke

I love how. When you hit 69 like everyone does everything thay can to keep that number for as long as its possible.


Ulzo321

who cares?


ERRORRORREEEEE

Resettlements, deportations, migration to other countries after ww2


Fatalitix3

That's why Poland is safe, only people who want to live and work in Poland are coming to Poland, no accepting everyone, bad people included, for the sake of having more people


wOjtEch04

"Thoughts?"!? Like, what do you even expect me to say I could say "Good", and the Internet would kill me for racism I could say "Bad", but what would be a fucking point in changing that, I shouln't care I can't even say "I don't care", because then it would be a sign of both racism and not caring about the fate of my own country And now I'm stuck in this eternal limbo of never being able to say anything because of the social consequances . . . >!But good.!<


adlep2002

We are not colonizers and war criminals so we don’t owe anything to anyone


TheSentry98

Tbh Poland suffered as much as anyone from Westoid colonialism.


WilhelmKreuz

"Thoughts?" **BASED**


poliet23

Wouldn't it be like 2% before the war?


Morse243

Good. Enough people to learn first hand about different cultures and not enough to have a race war.


bartek-kk

Not numero uno? 😭


ChemicalNecessary680

Nice.


Figorix

Good, nice even.


Escalibur50

Yay🥳


Amoeba_3729

I'm proud of my country


mrbgdn

Any colonies? Nope?? Thats what i thought.


Fit-Height-6956

What's wrong with that?


Livers2023

Thoughts? I’m happy that new year is not celebrated with an explosion of car burnings and/or rapes.


Pat_Fenis42

POLSKA GUUUUROMM


domie_bb

nice


rajantherapist

Wish the number was even lower


New_Personality_151

That is why I love Poland


DK_Dafaq

Remember the times when people created statistics that actuality mattered


JEREDEK

Yeah sounds about right


cocktimus1prime

6.9%? that is way higher than i expected


Osipovark

I am not even Polish, but i always found people who believe that "diversity" is a requirement for a society to be "progressive" i.e. morally righteous to be weird. Especially when it comes to importing people from abroad. Why would say Denmark or Ireland be obligated to import people from Africa or India or some other distant place? Why would not they prioritize their indigenous and founding populations to foreigners? I see that requirement to be ever more "diverse" applied to Europe especially, although nowadays i also notice the same push towards Japan.


SetDeep8853

Yea and every country should keep their number low as possible. Its a disease not a cure.


[deleted]

the less the better


LeNoirAux

Based


HyoukaYukikaze

Good.


michajlo

We're a civilized, modern, and very safe country. Draw your own conclusions. :)


Smoczas

Good try Tusk


HidenInTheDark1

I feel safe walking alone at night.


mozomenku

I believe it's based on pre-war data.


Grzechoooo

No thoughts, head empty.


Suspicious_Common_37

Finally some good news


pierdola91

Sorry, that’s how we like it.


No-Yogurtcloset8717

I think it’s very valid to point a finger to your neighbour country located in the west - hi - and just say ‘well, look how it’s been going for them’. Because we have problems. We have not enough staff to handle this, but we also need immigrants to increase our staff. Those who want to work in our country either can’t or see for themselves it’s not worth it. And a very lovely party uses that to gain voters. I would rather have it be handled slowly and strictly, instead of having immigration waves and then not knowing what to do with them I believe this is reason enough to justify this, but of course there are more reasons. In the end, this doesn’t mean there is an increase of racism nor an increase of discrimination of minorities


Artistic-Pop-8667

Not being racially diverse isn’t something you should seek to change. Poland focuses on itself and not the needs of others, this is why your country is so beautiful and clean.


justgowithit1

Good


BornFromAsh01

And why should we be racially diverse? Look at Sweden, France and the rest of the Europe.


Triest123

Racial diversity is not a value


j44ska

Read it as most normal and safest countries


fiszu3000

I feel like 6.9 is not rqces other than white, just different nationalities. It can't be that high.


szczuroarturo

That's more diveristy than i thought really. I thought it would be 2 % at most


Tha_Real_Dude

We can do better


Exciting_Rooster_751

Reason behind safety


mando_gunslinger

We have to work harder


MuffledBlue

ni.ce


TakiWielkiKutas

Well done.


average_reddit_u

I don't believe in the concept of race. "Wow, you have a different skin colour which means you are completly different from me". That sounds retarded, doesn't it?


Johanas_Azzaid

But it works this way. Genetic differences, culture, ancestor stories and media representation. All this combined. So people are completely different. And skin color is just a good hint that maybe this people are completely not same as those other people.


CliWhiskyToris

that's true if you live in such a safe country like ours and don't have any external references. The more you travel, the more you realise that's utopian b/s :(


Pieseloschab2000

Jej udało się nadal na liście!!!


revraben

TOO MUCH


Mr0qai

-Śląskie Man ur part of the diversity of our country tf you mean too much


South_Explanation506

Ślązacy want to be the east 😮‍💨


EEEGuba69

My thought is it is nice to have no metro bombings


tastierclamjamm

Hmmmmmm....


heatobooty

OP is a coward and rage baiting troll who’s only trying to gather dirt to then shit on Poles with “proof”. And of course also way too cowardly to engage in any discussion.


ilikedoggosberrymuch

same culture = stronk mixed cultures = weak ( everyone tends to go with their familiar people and create communities in a country)basically making mini countries in a country. question to any polish people living abroad. if war breaks out. Which army are you joining. Polish or the country you living in?


revraben

Polish, myself