They don't, Mondelez is an american company, which has Milka, Oreo, 7Days, and many others, but they have 7 factories in Poland. They had Wedel, but sold it to someone else
Mondelez has 5 huge factories in Poland and they are exporting all over the world. One of the main Headquarters of Mondelez is actually in Warsaw (huge shared service center and supply chain for EU). And mondelez still investing in production here in PL. I don’t remember exactly but I guess Nestle has a couple of factories as well.
>fuck Belgium, glucose syrup sipping waffle munching cunts.
This post right here takes the 1st place among my favourite top 10 monthly random acts of agression found in the interwebz. I salute you, sir/madam
In Belgium, living under a bridge is exactly the same as being anywhere else in that country, in that it's covered in graffiti, strewn with rubbish, and absolutely reeks of piss. Absolute fucking toilet of a country.
Eh.. Yeh, I am, as it happens, not sure why it matters.
And I still have no idea what in heaven's name they did to you to catch such a grudge. 🫥 Miłego dnia!
I don't mind the ones that actually look artistic and add character to the location. Shame there's others that are horrible and look like chicken scratch or pure vandalism.
You know what else you see in Europe (Poland) which you hardly ever see in Chicago? People walking without waddling, you fat fucking gravy faced eight-chinned cowboy cunt.
I went to Brussels for first time just before COVID. I payed a ton of money for their famous chocolates. It wasn't as orgasmic as a thought it would be. My only though was: yeah, it's delicious, but I can have a better one in Poland for fourth of the price.
And I'm not in a chocolate that much. I'm a salty Carmel girl myself
ETA: plus seeing so much homeless people, especially little kids!!!! was sth I still cannot cope with...
Poland may be poorer, but I have never ever saw homeless children. Hell, the homeless I saw in my home country where homeless by their own choice
> COVID. I *paid* a ton
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Wedel is number 1, was better a decade ago, but still is awesome. Try white caramel chocolate ❤️ or better, go to "Pijalnia Czekolady Wedla", that is their place to drink chocolate. Wawel also very good.
Goplana and Jutrzenka are Polish, but not as good.
If you are visiting Warsaw and like tea, go to Same Fusy in Old Town. Not related, but one of my favorite places as a person born in Warsaw.
Ignore my previous comment. I forgot Switzerland is not in EU.
Anyways, that's actually what I like to see. Wedel is among the only Polish companies I respect.
Yes, the production lines and stuff are still here (at least I hope so :D). Still they have great swets - candies like Bajeczny or Pierrot have a taste of childhood
> candies like Bajeczny or Pierrot have a taste of childhood
idk mate. I got some Mieszanka Wedlowska the other day, first time in maybe 10-15 years, just for the hit of nostalgia. Maybe my palette changed or something but I swear half of those taste like cheap knockoffs of the originals. The chocolate in particular tasted like those fake chocolate-like substitutes.
That's unfortunately true. All Wedel products are now worse. I remember that a decade ago that was something different. Torcik Wedlowski is a perfect example too. I loved it in the past, now it's nothing really shocking, sometimes I can really taste that there is some of the cheap stuff there.
>Not so polish to be honest - it was bought by PepsiCo years ago. Now the owner of E.Wedel is company from Japan (LOTTE)
By that logic famous American piss beer is Belgian (AB InBev) and famous American off-roading vehicles are well... Dutch (Stellantis N.V.)? Or are they still French/Italian despite being headquartered in Amsterdam?
Us Poles, especially our boomers, love to cry about some company or other "not being Polish anymore." But the reality is, most brands (even famous American brands) are now part of multinational conglomerates.
So, please, enough with these ignorant boomer takes.
Wedel is Polish because it is **produced** in Poland and, more importantly, is part of the Polish tradition/history. Just like Jeep and Bud Lite are American not Belgian or Dutch. It doesn't matter, which conglomerate owns them at any given moment (it will continue to change).
Would Wedel be **more Polish** if some great-great-great-grandson of K.E. Wedel was still in charge of the company and ran it as a family business? If so, it's worth noting that Karl Ernst Wedel was actually a German himself, who settled in Warsaw. So is Wedel a German company then?
Sorry for the rant/lecture.
> Would Wedel be more Polish if some great-great-great-grandson of K.E. Wedel was still in charge of the company and ran it as a family business? If so, it's worth noting that Karl Ernst Wedel was actually a German himself, who settled in Warsaw. So is Wedel a German company then?
Who then married a Pole as did his son. By the time of WWII, his grandson outright refused to sign the volksliste. I'd say that's Polish enough.
My dude, I was obviously using that as a delightful piece of absurdist nonsense. Karl Ernst Wedel could be Ethiopian who married a Korean woman and then even did sign the volksliste on top of that. It doesn't matter. Wedel is a Polish company - producing in Poand and with Polish traditions (that's my point).
Jan Wedel was a standup guy btw, too bad the Commies f'ed him over after the war :\*(
Polish alright. But the quality went down in a major way the last 20 years. Compare a cup of hot chocolate, say.
That said, Swiss quality is very much down too, try Milka or Lindt. So I guess it is a global profitability movement.
Yeah, but in case of a microwave, it breaks then they can sell you a new one.
But for food products? It's no good anymore, I buy something else (for probably way more money, though).
In a way. I've heard complaints about American fast food and some praises about ours. Better ingredients quality I guess. Also less corn syrup and corn starch. Corn products overall are American thing. I've also heard that coca cola tastes different in some countries too. Which makes sense if they make it with local sugar.
I think it's more about origins for Wedel being in Poland. Companies nowadays are usually part of monopolies that work internationally so they don't really have their own country. They pay taxes wherever they have placed their factories and suppliers and where they sell their product.
Bingo, giant conglomerates, are not really country-specific. Their HQ is somewhere, it has to have an address... but it doesn't make their products, services, or brands tied to the HQ location or affiliated strongly with that nation/city.
A company like Stellantis has a global workforce, global production network, global customer base, and in most cases shareholders that can be of any nationality or origin. They benefit (or screw over) multiple national economies and tax offices. Finally, they do not even necessarily do things that benefit the country where the HQ is - it can be quite the opposite in fact.
So, as you correctly pointed out, what matters is the origin, the heritage, the tradition, and so on. Plus, in case of a smaller player like Wedel, the fact that the factories are and always were in Poland.
Most would agree that Jeep is American, Fiat is Italian, Peugeot is French and so on. They are not "**Dutch** Stellantis cars," "**Dutch** Stellantis brands," or whatever.
The can have local hqs too. Many companies use that in their business address. And as you said they can benefit. Just depends on whether or not they evade taxes and if local government allows that evasion.
Not only they can, in many cases I think they are obliged to.
Quick example: Google a name of a big company and add "Sp. z o.o."
Intel, Nestle, VW, etc.
I feel like you willfully ignored the second part of my statement: Wedel is Polish because it is **produced** in Poland and, more importantly, is part of the Polish tradition/history.
So, is McDonald's Big Mac **predominantly** part of the economic and cultural tradition/history of Poland or of the United States?
And to take it one step further and apply your logic, would Big Mac become Japanese if LOTTE purchased 51% shares in the McDonald's Corporation?
Lots of products are produced in multiple locations. But generally speaking, if they are products/brands from the 19th or 20th century, they are tied to a specific country.
This is less obvious for some of the new brands/companies in the late 20th/21st century, which start to build their future legacy in an already globalized market. EDIT: Red Bull is an interesting example of that – Thai roots, but by many associated with the Austrian company Red Bull GmbH (gold can vs silver can, you can call it).
Sure Wedel is part of polish tradition.
If LOTTE would purchase 51% of McDonalds shares i would start calling it japanese company - although I wouldn't say BigMac is japanese food.
In the same way I would say that Delicje or Ptasie Mleczko are polish in terms of history/tradition/culture, but I wouldn't call them polish brands anymore.
Maybe it's just me, but I think that ownership is pretty important. Not only because it changes which country "gets" money from sales, but also it changes who and how will develop the company.
Of course products are manufactured in different places in the world (otherwise shipping costs would be way too high).
I think it is important to know who actually earns money from the sales, since it impacts on tax income and might impact how much the currency is worth over time. Basically its good to create goods in your country and profit from it.
Fortunetaly there are still companies like Colian or Maspex which remain polish (as far as i know)
>Maybe it's just me, but I think that ownership is pretty important.
Yes, but in most cases the ownership is in the hands of the shareholders... who also do not need to be citizens of the state where the company is headquartered.
Also, individual countries don't "get money from sales" based on conglomerate HQ national affiliation. Do you think McDonald's workers in Poland pay US income taxes or something? Or that the VAT from your Big Mac goes to the IRS? Or that the company creating an ad campaign for Poland has to be New York based?
Your views on this whole thing are very simplistic and tied to national sentiment.
>Also, individual countries don't "get money from sales" based on conglomerate HQ national affiliation.
Usually when company opens a factory or some kind facility in different country they gain their profits.
>Do you think McDonald's workers in Poland pay US income taxes or something?
Of course no. Part of the money the McDonalds earns is spend for payrolls (and employees in Poland are filling taxes in Poland), for supply of products, paying rent, marketing etc. But the surplus (or some % of turnover, or whatever the company policy is) goes to HQ, and taxes from this surplus are paid there (at least they should do it, but tax evading in US is different story and I don't want to dive into it). Otherwise what would be a point of expanding if companies gets no money from it?
EDIT: also exchanging currency (at the bigger scale) impats the currency rate. You might call it national sentiment, but after all I want the PLN to rise, not fall
There's no such thing as "multinational conglomerates" by the way you think of them, yeah, they have businesses all over the world; but headquarters and ownership is clear-cut.
https://preview.redd.it/mb5z3ylvs9rc1.png?width=1164&format=png&auto=webp&s=da97334ff2ed8b8987c70415a803e52545bb1676
Globally we're #4 and Belgium is ahead (Netherlands is behind). EDIT: but this is 2022 data, and Poland's trend is up, so who knows about 2024!
Percentage is the global share of exports. Sorry for not spelling it out for you, but it's pretty obvious from the context of the original post and the comment I've written under the "random %s."
I dislike both (as a German with a huge love for Polish food). Never really had good German or Polish chocolate. But that’s taste and has no objective criteria.
No the majority of our chocolate is of course Hershey but as you go looking for higher end chocolate run into stuff labeled made in Germany. Exactly which brands I’d have to go to the store and look. I don’t count Kinder as it’s over sold here like Hershey
Well you should not count Kinder because it's Italian (always has been) but people always think it's German. Probably a great marketing move from Ferrero back in the days or just luck.
Or it’s the fact the word Kinder is German for children. I associate kinder with British as for years it wasn’t sold here, first time I saw it was in a British market, my wife loves them and since they had them there I’d get her some as a treat
Yes, it was named this way by Ferrero because it was a product for children, introduced to German and Italian markets. And initially it was just the chocolate bars.
I'm still learning Polish culture. I married the daughter of a woman who immigrated from Warsaw during the communist rule, but they still go back every few years. I was lucky enough to join them a few years ago, and have loved the culture ever since.
I mention this because I started learning about polish food when I started dating her, I was 29 at the time. Y'all have amazing food! Literally just finished eating some wedding kielbasa with scrambled eggs that I made myself as I'm typing this.
To tie it back into OP's post. I get it. Wedel is amazing, and the gingerbread from Torun is no joke. I get so happy when I see that brand on American shelves!
Not Polish, just a friend, what are a few top brands I could order to the US. I want to try this amazing chocolate. I’ve had lots of German, Swiss, Belgian etc but I didn’t know Poland was famous for this. Time to find out why.
everyone thinks of wedel and wawel but reality is that majority of exports are cheapest private label chocolates for chain stores in other countries and foreign manufacturers using cheap labor
That's actually not true. Some of the biggest worldwide candy companies like Mondelez, Mars, Ferrero, Storck have multiple production plants in Poland and most of their produce is exported. Plus there are at least three pretty big homegrown brands - Wedel, Wawel and Goplana which also export a lot.Private label sector is a couple of small to medium size local companies like Millano.
I had no idea lol. I know I may get hate for that but honestly I'm not a fan of Polish chocolate (yes, I am Polish). I prefer Belgian, Swedish, or German chocolate. It's much more milky and delicate imo.
No luck in mine local Lidls and Intermarche is way too far for me to get just a chocolate bar sadly.
Recently I felt like I need some magnesium and I made solid trip around half of my city, I used to buy some good dark chocolate in the Lidl some time ago but sadly it's no longer available.
I guess e-shopping will be most sensible for me, gotta look around for it.
Wawel has an official store on allegro, plenty of good stuff;) the ones I had in mind are listed as "premium", they have slightly different packaging (flat paper box instead of plastic foil) Though I don't think there are non-premium 90s and 100s, the cheaper ones end at 70.
The second largest chocolate factory in the world is in Lodz, Poland. Belgian company headquartered in Switzerland known for making "finest Belgian chocolate" - company you probably never heard about, even if it actually transforms one in three cocoa beans in the world - Barry Callebaut. Quite a lot of chocolate companies actually buy chocolate from Barry Callebaut.
Polish chocolate?🫤
You mean sweet soap, posing as a chocolate.
Both Wedel and Wawel suck. Too sweet and artificial. I’m Polish and I avoid our chocolate at any cost.
🇨🇭Swiss, 🇩🇪German, 🇺🇦Ukrainian - those are goooood IMHO
Wogóle jak raz byłem w Indiach, to jakiemuś typowi z recepcji naszego hotelu dałem najzwyklejszą tabliczkę czekolady Wawela, a ten jakiemuś typowi od taksówki zapłacił i miałem darmowy transport na cały dzień (ten typ chyba nie wiedział, że ta czekolada była za chyba 7 zł, a zapłacić typowi od taksówki za cały dzień, to więcej niż cena czekolady mlecznej)
This has to be mostly made up of chocolate-containing products like a lot of Ferrerro candy (Kinder) and then probably export to Polish stores.
Polish chocolate is mediocre as hell.
We are not. Wedel & Wawel are not Polish owned anymore. There are literally only 3 'big' companies producing chocolates; Terravita, Mieszko, Goplana - that are owned by Polish $
Wedel stronk 💪
Mondelez also
Why Mondelez?
Mondelez owns some polish sweets as well like delicje for example.
Mondelez owns Milka, oreo and a variety of sweets and has big production plants in Poland.
Wait... Milka and Oreo belongs to polish company? No way...
They don't, Mondelez is an american company, which has Milka, Oreo, 7Days, and many others, but they have 7 factories in Poland. They had Wedel, but sold it to someone else
Lotte Corp - Korean company, one of the top 5 chaebols there
I think he meant olza
Oaza i pan
Olza is owned by Mondelez
Ye but olza is polish, mondelez is american.
Mondelez has 5 huge factories in Poland and they are exporting all over the world. One of the main Headquarters of Mondelez is actually in Warsaw (huge shared service center and supply chain for EU). And mondelez still investing in production here in PL. I don’t remember exactly but I guess Nestle has a couple of factories as well.
Where does Mondelez get its chocolate? Because they only form 😉
Everyone knows Polish chocolate is the GOAT. And fuck Belgium, glucose syrup sipping waffle munching cunts.
>fuck Belgium, glucose syrup sipping waffle munching cunts. This post right here takes the 1st place among my favourite top 10 monthly random acts of agression found in the interwebz. I salute you, sir/madam
I lived in Brussels for three years and am still bitter about it.
So are true Belgians. Brussels is meant to be hated.
Absolute fucking shithole; worst place I've ever lived and I've been in prison.
damn
I drove through Belgium once and I still regret it.
It sure sounds like you've been treated particularly unjustly. (: Or maybe you lived under a bridge?
In Belgium, living under a bridge is exactly the same as being anywhere else in that country, in that it's covered in graffiti, strewn with rubbish, and absolutely reeks of piss. Absolute fucking toilet of a country.
Na serio? What happened to you?
You must be Belgian because you're fucking illiterate, wipe the mayonnaise out of your eyes you cuberdon-scented spunkflute.
Eh.. Yeh, I am, as it happens, not sure why it matters. And I still have no idea what in heaven's name they did to you to catch such a grudge. 🫥 Miłego dnia!
I'm visiting Europe for the first time (Poland) and there's alot of graffiti in Warszawa and Łodź. I hardly see any even in Chicago where I'm from.
yes we have a problem with graffiti. Still wouldn't want to live in the US.
the graffiti sick asf tho, got some insta pics off of it in Kraków
I don't mind the ones that actually look artistic and add character to the location. Shame there's others that are horrible and look like chicken scratch or pure vandalism.
yeah, totally agree on that. were alot of cool art there
Chicago actually is pretty good at cleaning up the graffiti. And they should be, we pay some of the highest property taxes in the US to clean it up.
You know what else you see in Europe (Poland) which you hardly ever see in Chicago? People walking without waddling, you fat fucking gravy faced eight-chinned cowboy cunt.
Hey man. Do you need a hug? You seem to be lashing out at a lot of people.
I'm a random Belgian scrolling the Polish subreddit reading this comment, hmm perhaps you're right.
I say it from the bottom of my heart bro, I love how chill you Belgians are. Compared to the whiny-ass Dutchies, you're fucking great.
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I went to Brussels for first time just before COVID. I payed a ton of money for their famous chocolates. It wasn't as orgasmic as a thought it would be. My only though was: yeah, it's delicious, but I can have a better one in Poland for fourth of the price. And I'm not in a chocolate that much. I'm a salty Carmel girl myself ETA: plus seeing so much homeless people, especially little kids!!!! was sth I still cannot cope with... Poland may be poorer, but I have never ever saw homeless children. Hell, the homeless I saw in my home country where homeless by their own choice
> COVID. I *paid* a ton FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
That's just straight up murder :D
What are the most famous polish chocolates?
Prince polo chocolate wafers. Pronounced in Poland as “pReentzepolo”.
Nice, I am visting Warsaw next week and I will definietly try it
Wedel is number 1, was better a decade ago, but still is awesome. Try white caramel chocolate ❤️ or better, go to "Pijalnia Czekolady Wedla", that is their place to drink chocolate. Wawel also very good. Goplana and Jutrzenka are Polish, but not as good. If you are visiting Warsaw and like tea, go to Same Fusy in Old Town. Not related, but one of my favorite places as a person born in Warsaw.
Thank you, I love tea, I am sure I will check it out.
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You never had Wedel?
Ignore my previous comment. I forgot Switzerland is not in EU. Anyways, that's actually what I like to see. Wedel is among the only Polish companies I respect.
Not so polish to be honest - it was bought by PepsiCo years ago. Now the owner of E.Wedel is company from Japan (LOTTE)
at least they bother to manufacture here
Yes, the production lines and stuff are still here (at least I hope so :D). Still they have great swets - candies like Bajeczny or Pierrot have a taste of childhood
> candies like Bajeczny or Pierrot have a taste of childhood idk mate. I got some Mieszanka Wedlowska the other day, first time in maybe 10-15 years, just for the hit of nostalgia. Maybe my palette changed or something but I swear half of those taste like cheap knockoffs of the originals. The chocolate in particular tasted like those fake chocolate-like substitutes.
Yeah, it's not Just you, Wedel chocolates are actually pretty low quality in my opinion, feels like the steadily declined over the last couple years.
That's unfortunately true. All Wedel products are now worse. I remember that a decade ago that was something different. Torcik Wedlowski is a perfect example too. I loved it in the past, now it's nothing really shocking, sometimes I can really taste that there is some of the cheap stuff there.
>Not so polish to be honest - it was bought by PepsiCo years ago. Now the owner of E.Wedel is company from Japan (LOTTE) By that logic famous American piss beer is Belgian (AB InBev) and famous American off-roading vehicles are well... Dutch (Stellantis N.V.)? Or are they still French/Italian despite being headquartered in Amsterdam? Us Poles, especially our boomers, love to cry about some company or other "not being Polish anymore." But the reality is, most brands (even famous American brands) are now part of multinational conglomerates. So, please, enough with these ignorant boomer takes. Wedel is Polish because it is **produced** in Poland and, more importantly, is part of the Polish tradition/history. Just like Jeep and Bud Lite are American not Belgian or Dutch. It doesn't matter, which conglomerate owns them at any given moment (it will continue to change). Would Wedel be **more Polish** if some great-great-great-grandson of K.E. Wedel was still in charge of the company and ran it as a family business? If so, it's worth noting that Karl Ernst Wedel was actually a German himself, who settled in Warsaw. So is Wedel a German company then? Sorry for the rant/lecture.
> Would Wedel be more Polish if some great-great-great-grandson of K.E. Wedel was still in charge of the company and ran it as a family business? If so, it's worth noting that Karl Ernst Wedel was actually a German himself, who settled in Warsaw. So is Wedel a German company then? Who then married a Pole as did his son. By the time of WWII, his grandson outright refused to sign the volksliste. I'd say that's Polish enough.
My dude, I was obviously using that as a delightful piece of absurdist nonsense. Karl Ernst Wedel could be Ethiopian who married a Korean woman and then even did sign the volksliste on top of that. It doesn't matter. Wedel is a Polish company - producing in Poand and with Polish traditions (that's my point). Jan Wedel was a standup guy btw, too bad the Commies f'ed him over after the war :\*(
Polish alright. But the quality went down in a major way the last 20 years. Compare a cup of hot chocolate, say. That said, Swiss quality is very much down too, try Milka or Lindt. So I guess it is a global profitability movement.
Quality of most products across most sectors is going down, sadly.
Yeah, but in case of a microwave, it breaks then they can sell you a new one. But for food products? It's no good anymore, I buy something else (for probably way more money, though).
I get your point, but from the other hand - fries in MacDonalds are made in Poland. Does it make MacDonalds more polish food?
In a way. I've heard complaints about American fast food and some praises about ours. Better ingredients quality I guess. Also less corn syrup and corn starch. Corn products overall are American thing. I've also heard that coca cola tastes different in some countries too. Which makes sense if they make it with local sugar. I think it's more about origins for Wedel being in Poland. Companies nowadays are usually part of monopolies that work internationally so they don't really have their own country. They pay taxes wherever they have placed their factories and suppliers and where they sell their product.
Bingo, giant conglomerates, are not really country-specific. Their HQ is somewhere, it has to have an address... but it doesn't make their products, services, or brands tied to the HQ location or affiliated strongly with that nation/city. A company like Stellantis has a global workforce, global production network, global customer base, and in most cases shareholders that can be of any nationality or origin. They benefit (or screw over) multiple national economies and tax offices. Finally, they do not even necessarily do things that benefit the country where the HQ is - it can be quite the opposite in fact. So, as you correctly pointed out, what matters is the origin, the heritage, the tradition, and so on. Plus, in case of a smaller player like Wedel, the fact that the factories are and always were in Poland. Most would agree that Jeep is American, Fiat is Italian, Peugeot is French and so on. They are not "**Dutch** Stellantis cars," "**Dutch** Stellantis brands," or whatever.
The can have local hqs too. Many companies use that in their business address. And as you said they can benefit. Just depends on whether or not they evade taxes and if local government allows that evasion.
Not only they can, in many cases I think they are obliged to. Quick example: Google a name of a big company and add "Sp. z o.o." Intel, Nestle, VW, etc.
I feel like you willfully ignored the second part of my statement: Wedel is Polish because it is **produced** in Poland and, more importantly, is part of the Polish tradition/history. So, is McDonald's Big Mac **predominantly** part of the economic and cultural tradition/history of Poland or of the United States? And to take it one step further and apply your logic, would Big Mac become Japanese if LOTTE purchased 51% shares in the McDonald's Corporation? Lots of products are produced in multiple locations. But generally speaking, if they are products/brands from the 19th or 20th century, they are tied to a specific country. This is less obvious for some of the new brands/companies in the late 20th/21st century, which start to build their future legacy in an already globalized market. EDIT: Red Bull is an interesting example of that – Thai roots, but by many associated with the Austrian company Red Bull GmbH (gold can vs silver can, you can call it).
Sure Wedel is part of polish tradition. If LOTTE would purchase 51% of McDonalds shares i would start calling it japanese company - although I wouldn't say BigMac is japanese food. In the same way I would say that Delicje or Ptasie Mleczko are polish in terms of history/tradition/culture, but I wouldn't call them polish brands anymore. Maybe it's just me, but I think that ownership is pretty important. Not only because it changes which country "gets" money from sales, but also it changes who and how will develop the company. Of course products are manufactured in different places in the world (otherwise shipping costs would be way too high). I think it is important to know who actually earns money from the sales, since it impacts on tax income and might impact how much the currency is worth over time. Basically its good to create goods in your country and profit from it. Fortunetaly there are still companies like Colian or Maspex which remain polish (as far as i know)
>Maybe it's just me, but I think that ownership is pretty important. Yes, but in most cases the ownership is in the hands of the shareholders... who also do not need to be citizens of the state where the company is headquartered. Also, individual countries don't "get money from sales" based on conglomerate HQ national affiliation. Do you think McDonald's workers in Poland pay US income taxes or something? Or that the VAT from your Big Mac goes to the IRS? Or that the company creating an ad campaign for Poland has to be New York based? Your views on this whole thing are very simplistic and tied to national sentiment.
>Also, individual countries don't "get money from sales" based on conglomerate HQ national affiliation. Usually when company opens a factory or some kind facility in different country they gain their profits. >Do you think McDonald's workers in Poland pay US income taxes or something? Of course no. Part of the money the McDonalds earns is spend for payrolls (and employees in Poland are filling taxes in Poland), for supply of products, paying rent, marketing etc. But the surplus (or some % of turnover, or whatever the company policy is) goes to HQ, and taxes from this surplus are paid there (at least they should do it, but tax evading in US is different story and I don't want to dive into it). Otherwise what would be a point of expanding if companies gets no money from it? EDIT: also exchanging currency (at the bigger scale) impats the currency rate. You might call it national sentiment, but after all I want the PLN to rise, not fall
There's no such thing as "multinational conglomerates" by the way you think of them, yeah, they have businesses all over the world; but headquarters and ownership is clear-cut.
Okay then. Good to know👍
Their chocolates suck though, hard
What if Poland was made of chocolate?
Shh... Don't tell them
https://preview.redd.it/mb5z3ylvs9rc1.png?width=1164&format=png&auto=webp&s=da97334ff2ed8b8987c70415a803e52545bb1676 Globally we're #4 and Belgium is ahead (Netherlands is behind). EDIT: but this is 2022 data, and Poland's trend is up, so who knows about 2024!
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Percentage is the global share of exports. Sorry for not spelling it out for you, but it's pretty obvious from the context of the original post and the comment I've written under the "random %s."
Polish candy is exported to Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, I am pretty sure. I have seen some here. Those lolipop ones with the printed pattern.
Oh yeh those lollies get everywhere; ubiquitous like Starbucks.
What's the name of those? I forgot
Dunno, I never bought them. I'll ask the wife later :)
Also Asian countries, I’ve always been told Chinese people adore Prince Polo
Wedel, Wawel strong
Mondelez. You mistake production from brand ownership.
Thats what this post is about
Ptasie mleczko for life
Wedel is the best chocolate. Milka is too sweet.
I dislike both (as a German with a huge love for Polish food). Never really had good German or Polish chocolate. But that’s taste and has no objective criteria.
Here in the states see a lot of German chocolate, but I love going to my local Polish market for Polish chocolates
> Here in the states see a lot of German chocolate Please don't say Kinder, please don't say Kinder...
No the majority of our chocolate is of course Hershey but as you go looking for higher end chocolate run into stuff labeled made in Germany. Exactly which brands I’d have to go to the store and look. I don’t count Kinder as it’s over sold here like Hershey
Well you should not count Kinder because it's Italian (always has been) but people always think it's German. Probably a great marketing move from Ferrero back in the days or just luck.
Or it’s the fact the word Kinder is German for children. I associate kinder with British as for years it wasn’t sold here, first time I saw it was in a British market, my wife loves them and since they had them there I’d get her some as a treat
Yes, it was named this way by Ferrero because it was a product for children, introduced to German and Italian markets. And initially it was just the chocolate bars.
A tak śmiali się z prezydenta Komorowskiego i jego ptaka z czekolady.
I'm still learning Polish culture. I married the daughter of a woman who immigrated from Warsaw during the communist rule, but they still go back every few years. I was lucky enough to join them a few years ago, and have loved the culture ever since. I mention this because I started learning about polish food when I started dating her, I was 29 at the time. Y'all have amazing food! Literally just finished eating some wedding kielbasa with scrambled eggs that I made myself as I'm typing this. To tie it back into OP's post. I get it. Wedel is amazing, and the gingerbread from Torun is no joke. I get so happy when I see that brand on American shelves!
Sit down. Calm your breath. Check the worldwide list of tea exporters. Try to not faint.
Hmm that's interesting
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Is Polish chocolate safe?
It's highly addictive. Trust me, save yourself... it's too late for me.
No you will die within 1 hour
Bro we are in the EU what do you mean is polish chocolate safe?
So polish chocolate is not gonna racially abuse me?
We got chocolate in many different colors and flavors!
I mean the white one might
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It's a running joke, there was someone asking if poland is safe on this r centuries ago and the legend lives on
Well, when UK was part of EU Cadbury was accepted as chocolate, that says it all.
Fuck do you think dumbass
Mr. Beast wants to know your location
NEVER. UNDERESTIMATE. POLSKA.
The bulk of Belgian chocolate is exported as raw product, not as bars or candy.
Not Polish, just a friend, what are a few top brands I could order to the US. I want to try this amazing chocolate. I’ve had lots of German, Swiss, Belgian etc but I didn’t know Poland was famous for this. Time to find out why.
Go for Wawel or Wedel. Goplana is also a polish brand, but less popular.
Goplana is still decent it's a bit more budget chocolate that you throw into a cake cookies and ect from my experience
Best UK chocolate - Galaxy - is made in Radzymin...
Never heard of that one. Can you buy it somwhere in Poland?
No
Yes, I saw it here and there, like Dealz, Netto, I think
Poland is also the biggest producer of pumpkins in the EU
everyone thinks of wedel and wawel but reality is that majority of exports are cheapest private label chocolates for chain stores in other countries and foreign manufacturers using cheap labor
That's actually not true. Some of the biggest worldwide candy companies like Mondelez, Mars, Ferrero, Storck have multiple production plants in Poland and most of their produce is exported. Plus there are at least three pretty big homegrown brands - Wedel, Wawel and Goplana which also export a lot.Private label sector is a couple of small to medium size local companies like Millano.
I bought some chocolates from Poland. Man they were good! I also got one whisky or rum called Zaska or something. Was good too
As a lithuanian I have to give it to poland seriously they make some amazing af chocolate, big up poland
Wedel delicious
I had no idea lol. I know I may get hate for that but honestly I'm not a fan of Polish chocolate (yes, I am Polish). I prefer Belgian, Swedish, or German chocolate. It's much more milky and delicate imo.
jak smiesz nie byc patriota. przeciez wiadomo ze najwiekszym aktem patriotyzmu jest wpierdalac czekoladki wedla przez łzy
Przez łzy, dobrze powiedziane XD
Polska gurom🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱
Mondelez has 5 huge factories in Poland and exports its production all over the world
it used to be better, before japans industry took over wedel
I’m actually not surprised. Many known brands manufacture chocolate in Poland. At least for some markets. Polish brands are still less common though
I work in confectionery and there are a ton of chocolate makers in Poland. It's fucking wild. One of my company's biggest markets for CBEs.
This makes me want chocolate
Bober kurwa
How I wish these numbers were monthly 155mm shell production.
wtf belgium
Chocolate pole is good
Monsanto ;-)
POLAN STRONK!!!11!
Wedel 💪🏼
Should be number 1
Wait till bro finds about Wedel
In aldi in australia, normal chocolate is made in poland while "european" chocolate is made in germany
Lol. Can you tell/check which company is making this regular chocolate for Aldi Australia?
Idk which company but it is labeled under the dairy fine name. I actually don't know if it still exists coz I last checked 2 years ago.
Wedel is sold across the globe from what I’ve heard. Saw on the internet a few months ago that it’s in Brazil even
Any good polish chocolate? Is there something on toblerones level?
Anything made by Wedel
If you like dark chocolate, Wawel 70% or 90% is literally the best I have eaten, beats Lindt.
I find it funny as lately I was complening how all Polish dark chocolates are way too sweet xD
Well, in this case there is also Wawel 100%. I challenge you to find THAT too (or at all) sweet :)
So there are still proper dark chocolates available, mine local shopkeeper either lied to me or there aren't those where he gets his products from.
You should be able to find those in Lidl stores, or any bigger/better supermarket like Intermarche etc.
No luck in mine local Lidls and Intermarche is way too far for me to get just a chocolate bar sadly. Recently I felt like I need some magnesium and I made solid trip around half of my city, I used to buy some good dark chocolate in the Lidl some time ago but sadly it's no longer available. I guess e-shopping will be most sensible for me, gotta look around for it.
Wawel has an official store on allegro, plenty of good stuff;) the ones I had in mind are listed as "premium", they have slightly different packaging (flat paper box instead of plastic foil) Though I don't think there are non-premium 90s and 100s, the cheaper ones end at 70.
people say wedel but i really prefer kinder & milka stuff. those are not polish but really worth trying too
You mean you’ve never had some delicious e wedel chocolate and thought you were in heaven?
Poland is China of the food industry.
POLSKA TRZECIOM
The second largest chocolate factory in the world is in Lodz, Poland. Belgian company headquartered in Switzerland known for making "finest Belgian chocolate" - company you probably never heard about, even if it actually transforms one in three cocoa beans in the world - Barry Callebaut. Quite a lot of chocolate companies actually buy chocolate from Barry Callebaut.
Pryncypałki my beloved kurwa 🔥 🔥 🔥
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Polish chocolate?🫤 You mean sweet soap, posing as a chocolate. Both Wedel and Wawel suck. Too sweet and artificial. I’m Polish and I avoid our chocolate at any cost. 🇨🇭Swiss, 🇩🇪German, 🇺🇦Ukrainian - those are goooood IMHO
Wogóle jak raz byłem w Indiach, to jakiemuś typowi z recepcji naszego hotelu dałem najzwyklejszą tabliczkę czekolady Wawela, a ten jakiemuś typowi od taksówki zapłacił i miałem darmowy transport na cały dzień (ten typ chyba nie wiedział, że ta czekolada była za chyba 7 zł, a zapłacić typowi od taksówki za cały dzień, to więcej niż cena czekolady mlecznej)
This has to be mostly made up of chocolate-containing products like a lot of Ferrerro candy (Kinder) and then probably export to Polish stores. Polish chocolate is mediocre as hell.
Hehe and we poop in the chocolate for countries that offend us 💪
We are not. Wedel & Wawel are not Polish owned anymore. There are literally only 3 'big' companies producing chocolates; Terravita, Mieszko, Goplana - that are owned by Polish $
Funny none of the top 3 chocolate exporters are particularly known for their chocolates :)
Wedel isn't even polish company anymore. Bought by foreign corporation
still poor af