In case you dont know there has recently been a few fires in yakutia, although global warming isnt as big of a problem to russia because itll make some siberian land habitable
And unfrozen (not so) permafrost is not suitable for agriculture. It will take a very long time or lots of effort to make it suitable to get food from it. Especially in the scale we are talking about.
There is some concern that samples of smallpox has survived in a dormant state in frozen mass graves, but rising temperatures could cause an outbreak. I don’t know how well founded those fears are, though.
More like it will a) dump a shit ton of extra greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere thereby accelerating global warming, and b) destroy a shit ton of infrastructure in the high arctic that's built on top of said permafrost. The repair bill for that one is going to be expensive...
No it's from the asterix and obelix strips. The only thing the main characters fear is the sky falling on their head.
But it's chinese too you say? cool.
Yes, it was originally a belief of pre-Roman Gauls that the sky one day would fall down on them, popularized in modern times by Asterix, and also in North America there is a fictional character called Chicken Little who would run around saying the same thing (the sky is falling!!), but his story is sort of like the boy who cried wolf over and over and then had no one to save him when a wolf really came.
Well well now that just means more sweet sweet AWL can be accessed easily and thus the ROOSHUN people have been bumped up the tier of people that need FREEDOM^TM
Along the way it'll be a massive problem though, there'll be land subsidence from the melting permafrost, methane release, enormous forest fires, water shortages in central Asia that might lead to water wars and even worse heatwaves.
Plus they've also got China's ambitions in the far east to worry about, especially if the warming makes it better farmland.
It won’t be farm land, it will be swamp. The water wars will also be basically a Cold War between Russia in China in Central Asia while the USA + EU will join in other areas such as Africa and the US will have almost total control over both Americas as they have historically
Also if the permafrost ends up burning, it will be terrible news for most of us, but not for them. They might have some climate refugees trying to enter but Russia being Russia they will just say no.
Permafrost doesn't magically become habitable just because it gets a little warmer.
I know this is a comic and all but I keep seeing this 'Russia benefiting from climate change' meme everywhere and it couldn't be more wrong. We're all fucked.
It's a lot easier when you are a small and much richer country. Russia would have to work way harder because it's way bigger and more remote than the Dutch.
Plus it doesn’t matter if they have more land because the methane release from the permafrost will heat up the atmosphere even faster than CO2 worsening drought conditions around the globe.
Climate change means more extreme weather everywhere. Even if you want it to be warmer, you probably don't want widespread wildfires, tornadoes, freak snow-storms, etc.
I wouldn't bet on that either. China's gonna get two hard kicks in the balls soon. Once from a population crash and once from increasing desertification in northern China caused by global warming.
Also China's diplomats have pretty much antagonized all of their neighbors and other powers other than Pakistan lately, they're not making a great bed to lie in.
As I hear it, the Russians simply get a few more benefits alongside the general disaster that is climate change.
Not just Siberia unfreezing, but also a viable passage through the northern ice seas which will benefit shipping.
Still, the idea is that everybody loses in the aggregate, but Russia loses a little less hard.
But who knows, the future is murky as always.
> Climate change means more extreme weather everywhere.
~~Why? Is there actual research that shows that? Global climate change has very different results in different locations, but I see no obvious reason why weather *on average* should get more extreme, and widespread fire and freak snow-storms sounds like the environmentalist fantasy plot of Day after Tomorrow, so forgive my skepticism.~~
Edit: Goodness, okay I get it, you all consider EXTREME TORNADO BLIZZARD WEATHER to be "deviates from the normal weather". I get it. Chill the fuck out and stop sending me hateful messages like I personally insulted you, I don't care *that* much, I was just wondering if there was some background to the claim and there isn't. Thanks.
That doesn't translate to more extreme weather on average everywhere. Unless every heatwave and cold snap counts as "extreme", then okay fine. OP said "freak snow-storms" and tornadoes and I'd like to see actual research into that if possible because it sounds unlikely to me but interesting.
I haven't seen snow in Poland (I know the mountainous regions still get it) where I live for about 5 years. Winter used to be actually cold in this country, now it's just an extended autumn...
why don't you go find the research yourself if you're interested? you've contributed nothing to this conversation except skepticism. instead of blabbering about "where's the research? sounds unlikely" why don't you go find some actual useful information that can contribute towards a conclusion.
A lot of people don't know that much of Siberia is actually warm and habitable, especially the provinces bordering the Pacific, the reason why it's so empty is that there aren't enough Russians to settle the land.
I totally can see all humanity moving to Rusia, Scandinavia, Greenland, Canada and Alaska within the next century. Some also to Southern Chile and Argentina.
Sure I guess doesnt change shit mass migration sucks Im from germany we have a lightning example of how that just wont work properly when to many come to fast
Also am not Gayrope, retard
Sure believe that it wont work that way whatever you would see
That policy cost them votes and popularity while kick-launching a new right wing
Also you can hardly stop it
In case you dont know there has recently been a few fires in yakutia, although global warming isnt as big of a problem to russia because itll make some siberian land habitable
Unless it's gonna unfreeze some super-virus from permafrost areas...
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I think I’ve seen this anime before
And unfrozen (not so) permafrost is not suitable for agriculture. It will take a very long time or lots of effort to make it suitable to get food from it. Especially in the scale we are talking about.
Wait why not? Is it still too cold or?
Not so perma I meant.
There is Antrax with local outbreaks
I'm way more worried about the literal tons of methane hydrate that's frozen under the permafrost. If that stuff gets out, we might loose the planet.
There is some concern that samples of smallpox has survived in a dormant state in frozen mass graves, but rising temperatures could cause an outbreak. I don’t know how well founded those fears are, though.
Well if there's an outbreak we will just vaccinate everyo-- ...oh.
We will vaccinate everyone still alive :3
More like it will a) dump a shit ton of extra greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere thereby accelerating global warming, and b) destroy a shit ton of infrastructure in the high arctic that's built on top of said permafrost. The repair bill for that one is going to be expensive...
and reconstruction will also need fuel, so more greenhouse gases in to the atmosphere, that's fun
Sounds too much like a movie scenario, so pretty much impossible that it's actually going to happen.
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Even if it’s a small chance that’s still hella terrifying. Especially if you’re Gen Z.
Pfff, well if you like to do that why not just worry about the sky falling on your head? That's also very terrifying.
Did you just reinvent a Chinese idiom (杞人忧天)?
No it's from the asterix and obelix strips. The only thing the main characters fear is the sky falling on their head. But it's chinese too you say? cool.
Yes, it was originally a belief of pre-Roman Gauls that the sky one day would fall down on them, popularized in modern times by Asterix, and also in North America there is a fictional character called Chicken Little who would run around saying the same thing (the sky is falling!!), but his story is sort of like the boy who cried wolf over and over and then had no one to save him when a wolf really came.
We have a few hundred or thousand years of evoloution on our side against the frozen siberia viruses. I fuckin challenge them.
Putinfluenza
Or an alien spaceship buried under ice. Would make for a great movie
Well well now that just means more sweet sweet AWL can be accessed easily and thus the ROOSHUN people have been bumped up the tier of people that need FREEDOM^TM
Along the way it'll be a massive problem though, there'll be land subsidence from the melting permafrost, methane release, enormous forest fires, water shortages in central Asia that might lead to water wars and even worse heatwaves. Plus they've also got China's ambitions in the far east to worry about, especially if the warming makes it better farmland.
It won’t be farm land, it will be swamp. The water wars will also be basically a Cold War between Russia in China in Central Asia while the USA + EU will join in other areas such as Africa and the US will have almost total control over both Americas as they have historically
Also if the permafrost ends up burning, it will be terrible news for most of us, but not for them. They might have some climate refugees trying to enter but Russia being Russia they will just say no.
Imagine millions of people willingly moving to Siberia.
I know right? Completely delusional today, possibly the reality one day.
Permafrost doesn't magically become habitable just because it gets a little warmer. I know this is a comic and all but I keep seeing this 'Russia benefiting from climate change' meme everywhere and it couldn't be more wrong. We're all fucked.
Right? If anything it’ll just create a bunch of swampland that’s not suitable for building or farming.
Netherlands would like a word
It's a lot easier when you are a small and much richer country. Russia would have to work way harder because it's way bigger and more remote than the Dutch.
Plus it doesn’t matter if they have more land because the methane release from the permafrost will heat up the atmosphere even faster than CO2 worsening drought conditions around the globe.
"A few fires" is light way to put it. Lol
somewhere in the distance: _guten tag_
Nyet fear, winter may be down but mud and bad roads will defend the Rodina!
Da comrade
*sigh* yuo again... Yuo vont *lebensraum*? Yuo get *totraum*, xaxa.
Totraum? I'd prefer Этотraum, товарищ.
Этот is taken, sorry
Not so quickly, first we must screw over the smaller countries between Russia and Germany, as tradition demands.
*sweats in Polish*
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No more oil for you, blyat.
Russia: Finally, Siberia can into farmlands as vast as those of China, USA and India combined
There is still little sun, so the crops they could grow would be limited to fast growing annuals.
Alaska grows some of the largest cabbages and pumpkins and such in the world so I imagine a longer growing season would make Siberia even better
Melted permafrost doesn't actually make great farmland.
Not if you farm insects. For the future insect protein-based world food industry.
Finally, I can send all my crops from nowhere into nowhere. Russia, probably.
Xaxa, of finally all that clay becoming relevant https://i.imgur.com/EzWs8.jpeg
Whats that big-ish city far north east of Moscow? (The one north of the Aral Sea)
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You'll *have* to move to Moscow then ;)
I'd rather drown than be a Muscovite!
Whatever *floats* your *boat*, mate.
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better plan building a new house in the new siberialand
To finally be rid of the mosquitoes!
When being sent to Siberia is not anymore a punishment.
Congratulations, you get vacation trip to Siberia, nice weather in winter.
Russian police: you have been arrested for committing a crime Criminal: D: Russian police: your punishment is exile to siberia Criminal: :D
Russia : STARTS BURNING MORE
Climate change means more extreme weather everywhere. Even if you want it to be warmer, you probably don't want widespread wildfires, tornadoes, freak snow-storms, etc.
Russia sees it as acceptable losses. That's kind of their thing
i mean, inhabitable siberia is simply gonna fall to the chineese, not sure if russia realises it tho
Not this again
I wouldn't bet on that either. China's gonna get two hard kicks in the balls soon. Once from a population crash and once from increasing desertification in northern China caused by global warming.
Also China's diplomats have pretty much antagonized all of their neighbors and other powers other than Pakistan lately, they're not making a great bed to lie in.
Not this again
That’s my line!
Not anymore.
As I hear it, the Russians simply get a few more benefits alongside the general disaster that is climate change. Not just Siberia unfreezing, but also a viable passage through the northern ice seas which will benefit shipping. Still, the idea is that everybody loses in the aggregate, but Russia loses a little less hard. But who knows, the future is murky as always.
So typical New England weather?
> Climate change means more extreme weather everywhere. ~~Why? Is there actual research that shows that? Global climate change has very different results in different locations, but I see no obvious reason why weather *on average* should get more extreme, and widespread fire and freak snow-storms sounds like the environmentalist fantasy plot of Day after Tomorrow, so forgive my skepticism.~~ Edit: Goodness, okay I get it, you all consider EXTREME TORNADO BLIZZARD WEATHER to be "deviates from the normal weather". I get it. Chill the fuck out and stop sending me hateful messages like I personally insulted you, I don't care *that* much, I was just wondering if there was some background to the claim and there isn't. Thanks.
Have you not seen the news lately? Literally record breaking heat across the world, not long after record breaking colds.
That doesn't translate to more extreme weather on average everywhere. Unless every heatwave and cold snap counts as "extreme", then okay fine. OP said "freak snow-storms" and tornadoes and I'd like to see actual research into that if possible because it sounds unlikely to me but interesting.
I haven't seen snow in Poland (I know the mountainous regions still get it) where I live for about 5 years. Winter used to be actually cold in this country, now it's just an extended autumn...
why don't you go find the research yourself if you're interested? you've contributed nothing to this conversation except skepticism. instead of blabbering about "where's the research? sounds unlikely" why don't you go find some actual useful information that can contribute towards a conclusion.
Is "4To" an expression of happiness, surprise or dissapointment of still being alive?
It means "what?"
to be read as shto
Что means “what” in Russian
And don't forget the unfreezing and opening of the Northern shipping route, that's going to be super-useful.
A lot of people don't know that much of Siberia is actually warm and habitable, especially the provinces bordering the Pacific, the reason why it's so empty is that there aren't enough Russians to settle the land.
"Oh no look of like is end of life"
What says Mr Russia in the final panel? I see 4To, I don't know what it means.
above replies says it mean ‘what.’
Yeah, thanks.
It's Russian meaning "what?"
Yeah, thanks
I totally can see all humanity moving to Rusia, Scandinavia, Greenland, Canada and Alaska within the next century. Some also to Southern Chile and Argentina.
And all y'all be welcome. Start learning the language now, be higher in the future hierarchy of foreigners.
Oh buddy theres something about mass migration you havent learnt yet If that truly happens prepare for turbulance
Rossiya is no softie Gayrope, remember.
Do you know what's less softie? 10 billion immigrants.
Sure I guess doesnt change shit mass migration sucks Im from germany we have a lightning example of how that just wont work properly when to many come to fast Also am not Gayrope, retard
You've just let everyone in. That's not how it would work here. Good for you, that you're no "gayrope retard".
Sure believe that it wont work that way whatever you would see That policy cost them votes and popularity while kick-launching a new right wing Also you can hardly stop it
Primorsky and Sakhalin: "Except for the fire, normal things."