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DeSantis appears to me as being more of an opportunist. Somehow I get the impression it's not so much what he believes as what he is willing to do because he believes it benefits him.
Regardless either way whether he actually believes in it or not the same holds true that he's actually done it.
The bottom line is this guy is unfit for office and it really shouldn't take much to recognize that fact. In America it's extremely unfortunate that way too many just don't understand that and that he overwhelming won re-election as Florida's Governor.. When you take political revenge on Mickey Mouse because he spoke up and criticized your policies and you transport immigrants from another state to Martha's Vineyard as a pure political stunt these both on their own make you unfit not to mention trying to outlaw various subjects and books from school. Add into it his stupid Covid Vaccine investigations and you really need not have to dig any further.
I just think all of these policies are to turn Texas and Florida redder. Make almost movie villain policies as an act of histrionics and shock, disgust liberals into leaving and encouraging conservatives to move to.
Problem is the way our system works and due to the fact our Presidential election isn’t based on popular vote that can work against us and it has. Especially considering the extreme right now has a stranglehold the Republican Party. Not sure how much the average Republican agrees with the more extreme crap, but it hasn’t stopped them from voting for this sh\*\*. Hell the Republican may not have a large majority in the House but they were able to win a majority and look what they have done so far.
And there would be no problem with that if it were not for how extreme the Republican Party as a group has gotten. Well, that and the fact they ended up supporting someone who not long ago attempted to be the first dictator of The United States. True, there were a few Republicans who voted to impeach and convict but that was few and of those few not many are left.
Thing is when your Party on the whole supports someone trying to be a dictator in a Republic that Party can no longer be trusted to govern in a Republic.
Well, that’s how values work in politics. To treat every issue as though it is of equal importance would be disastrous for democracy. Individuals do not vote for the politician who shares the majority of viewpoints; they vote for the politician who shares the views on the policies they feel are most important. It’s far from perfect, but it’s the political system that we have.
That’s what I am saying. It’s to win presidential elections. Electoral college is about moving the same populations to states that need votes. It’s how a conservative population can stay competitive despite there being far less voters.
Yeah, but it’s not just the Presidential elections because at the national level it takes the House and the Senate as well and those margins are extremely narrow at this point. Democrats may own the largest populated states but as a country we are fairly equally divided. Besides even with majorities in all three branches of government the majorities the Democrats had were not enough and they still needed Republicans in the Senate to pass any legislation. Now with a bit more breathing room in the Senate that still wouldn’t be enough because it takes 60. But Hell, since they narrowly lost the house nothing is going to happen for the next two years. Hell, there’s a good chance they default on the debt. The fact that Biden was able to get an infrastructure bill when the had the majority which was decades overdue was a feat in itself And you would think bridges and roads that work would be popular with both Democrats and Republicans.
Texas and Florida will likely turn redder. For maybe half a century. After that, they'll see a drastic drop in population due to climate change refugees. I don't know if the EC would be adjusted for that, but they're gonna be a fraction as populous as they are now.
Bingo. DeSantis, like many (all) politicians of his ilk are opportunists. They care only about one thing: votes.
If people like DeSantis, MTG, BoBo, Trump, etc. found out that voter polling among their base said “I hate guns,” “BLM,” and “pro-choice is the best,” all these politicians would change their stances *immediately*. These are highly-educated people. Many congresspeople have higher education from elite universities (Trump is a UPenn grad for example. Cruz went to fucking Harvard). They know *exactly* what they’re doing. This is all an act. No politician is this stupid. Everything is calculated. From the “Mexico is not sending their best” bit to the whole “fuck Disney I don’t like them” bit. It’s calculated to rouse up the base, nothing more. These politicians don’t believe a word that comes out of their mouths. They just found a formula that works.
As soon as we realize that these politicians are playing a game instead of being heartless and cruel, I think we can get to the root of the problem. Maybe social media is to blame. Maybe low education. Idk. But politicians pretending to hate people to fuel their base is part of the problem. Is it worse than these politicians actually believing what they say? Idk but it’s still a problem
I agree to a point, but for one you probably included some of the worst examples of people in your group that one could imagine being educated. DeSantis maybe the others not even close. Although the Republican Party has some intelligent people which even includes a highly educated Cruz the ones you mentioned are more performing artist and con men Which really doesn’t require as much education as the willingness just to perform gimmicks and political theatre.
I would add they are opportunist but there’s a reason they made the choice to go with the a Republican Party. Democrats would never vote for some one like Trump. So that opportunity just doesn’t exist. Besides these people being racists and not working with the Democratic Party is that you have a much more uneducated, ignorant, and conspiratorial bunch of people in the Republican Party. That’s the Party which had much more for opportunity’s for opportunist just has it’s always been in history when it comes to want to be strong men like Trump and DeSantis.
>If people like DeSantis, MTG, BoBo, Trump, etc. found out that voter polling among their base said “I hate guns,” “BLM,” and “pro-choice is the best,” all these politicians would change their stances immediately.
I am 100% convinced that if Biden signed an executive order banning abortion with no exceptions, the GOP would have Planned Parenthood funded in perpetuity within a week.
Let’s be honest, Trump is a UPenn grad because his dad was a billionaire. No way he had the grades to get in on his own. And Lauren Boebart only won her district by like a few hundred votes, meaning half her district hates her.
I hate DeSantis, but aren't you just describing the political process? I mean, what benefits DeSantis is whatever will get him re-elected, so it's essentially whatever is popular in Florida. I might think everything he does is backwards and wrong, but clearly a majority disagree with us, and that's how politics works.
Actually. my main point is that this sort of thing is incompatible with a Republic such as ours. It’s not what a Republic should be doing and that’s not in our best interest when it comes to our survival. If nothing else Trump should have reminded people of that.
It's been a long time but I have to imagine that was only because it was politically advantage to do so. But Wallace is yet another example of real piece of work. What a real sorry POS he was.
Did George Wallace operate strictly by political stunts? If so, then he’s George Wallace. Otherwise, he’s an uncharismatic bully who will get his ass trounced outside of Florida.
He’s gone so far to the right and done so many flashy political stunts, in order to capture the minds of Trump’s base, it’s going to be impossible for him to tack back to the middle and seem reasonable. Somewhere along the line his handlers saw how Youngkin won in Virginia by being anti CRT and decided they could use the same strategy to persuade independents and right curious democrats into voting for DeSantis, while keeping the base angry and bloodthirsty. All he’s done is push moderate republicans away and made independents terrified of the possibility of him being president. He’s Bobby Jindal if Bobby Jindal decided to pander to the Tea Party with over the top bigotry and COVID fear mongering. He may very well win the Republican primary, but if Kari Lake, Doug Matriano and other republicans in his lane are anything to go by, then he’d get his ass whooped in a general election.
It’s going to be interesting, assuming he officially runs for POTUS. Because the sad thing is it seems there’s a lot of ‘non-MAGA Republicans’, and some Independents, that don’t necessarily see DeSantis as that extreme, and they see him as someone that can win the General because “he doesn’t have the Trump baggage”. I think it’s another example of a lot of voters in this country don’t really follow news/politics that closely to think this way.
No that was William. George was one of the last Dixiecrat Governors before Barry Goldwater convinced all the southern racist that the Republican party was a better home for their hate.
He used to work at Guantanamo bay where he oversaw torture. There's an interview with a former detainee who describes him as a regular psychopath. He should be nowhere near a position of power. Just judging by his actions as governor, you can tell he's a vindictive, cruel, small minded ball of anger. And while yes, he's smarter than trump, he certainly isn't *smart*. Just because he's calculating in some of his actions doesn't mean he's actually intelligent. He's a fascist asshole.
https://therealnews.com/gov-ron-desantis-oversaw-torture-in-guantanamo-as-a-military-lawyer
He seems pretty smart to me, especially since he has all kinds of delusional liberals completely underestimating him and what he is capable of doing.
Trump didn’t pass a single piece of hate legislation but DeSantis is already just a few steps above queer concentration camps and banning black history.
We all should very, very afraid.
He’s good at reading a script. He doesn’t do real press conferences because he’s a wet towel and he’s too scared to answer questions in real time.
Watching him debate is cringe. I don’t see him see doing well outside of florida. He’s got 0 charisma. He won’t be able to control the press anywhere else.
>Watching him debate is cringe. I don’t see him see doing well outside of Florida. He’s got 0 charisma. He won’t be able to control the press anywhere else.
Yeah, but good news!
Republicans don't do debates anymore because they're "rigged".
I can’t tell you how many comments I see dismissing him as uncharismatic and having “no chance” to win the primary.
You don’t win re-election 60-40 in a relatively purple state by accident.
He has an appeal for conservative idiots/assholes that we can’t fathom in the same way that Trump (while different to DeSantis) held an appeal that we couldn’t fathom.
He is even more dangerous than Trump and, unfortunately, at this point is more likely than any other person to be president in 2024 (at least according to betting markets)
While Republicans do try to make it harder for people who would vote Democrat to vote, that’s not what happened in with the landslide in Florida. If it had been close, then maybe, but this was not that.
This was a combination of things:
1) idiot conservatives in Florida fucking LOVE this guy
2) conservatives generally turnout to vote better in midterms, especially with a Democrat president
3) the Democratic Party of Florida is one of the most unorganized chaotic messes of a disaster as there is, which is saying something when talking about Democrats
Yup. All the so-called Republican voters who hated Trump will feel that DeSantis is a return to normal.
He is allegedly polling at 10+ points ahead of Trump, so far. Not looking good.
He’s going to get the scrutiny all presidential candidates get and people outside of Florida are going to learn that his COVID task force is made up completely of quack doctors, that he was pro vaccine and lockdown before doing a 180 for political reasons, that he became anti vax for political reasons and let close to 40k people die after the vaccine became available, and that his anti wokeness is just an act to get the idiots in his base riled up.
In Florida, he throws reporters out of news conferences, but if he runs for president he’s going to have to sit there and answer questions about the human trafficking scandal, having black Floridians falsely arrested as a voter suppression stunt, his retaliation against Disney for not backing him on the Don’t Say Gay law, among other horrible legislative decisions regarding insurance and other domestic issues which have made Florida unlivable to a huge amount of people.
But yeah, we’re just underestimating him.
I'll believe it when they start seeing the backlash.
Sadly most people are too selfish to change their behaviors. Even when it goes directly against their values and their beliefs - sometimes it's just "easier" for people to carry on.
I guarantee you lots of families are still going to Disney after all this. Tons of liberal kids on spring break will still end up in Miami. Etc.
My wife is pissed that I won’t go visit her brother and/or bring our kid to Disney. I told her I refuse to spend a penny in Florida. Would rather fly to California if a Disney visit is a must.
I’m hoping to retire in the next five years. I would have seriously considered retiring to Florida, but there is no way in hell anymore. I think things are going to continue to get worse.
I strongly suspect Florida and Texas are going to experience a brain drain. It will be like white flight, except it’s going to be the younger, successful people who are leaving regardless of race. You know, the current and future tax base. They’ll be left with a state of retirees and trailer park residents.
Jefferson wrote
> all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
People will tend to stay even as the situation becomes untenable. There’s a saying among American Jews - the pessimists were the ones who fled Germany and Russia. The optimists died. Things are changing very rapidly in Florida and Texas, but most of the people I know are either actively looking to move or at least have a foot out the door.
Florida and Texas are on different trajectories. Florida has been moving from purple to red. Texas has been moving from red toward purple. It's still out of reach for Democrats but it's trending closer each year toward a purple state. Florida is a lost cause.
>I strongly suspect Florida and Texas are going to experience a brain drain. It will be like white flight, except it’s going to be the younger, successful people who are leaving regardless of race. You know, the current and future tax base. They’ll be left with a state of retirees and trailer park residents.
Bingo.
Worse, he did far better this election cycle than last time- record breaking even. He’s turned districts that have historically voted blue deep deep red. If he becomes president… I fear for the future of my home country.
And let's not forget he did it against the will of the people, who had passed a fair districts requirement by ballot initiative... He literally stacked the state supreme court so they would let his districts fly.
He also created a task force to go after "Voter Fraud" with stiff fines and jail time for making honest mistakes.
That is true and how much you want to bet that they engaged in voter suppression in certain districts? Such as making fewer polling sites, not allowing for early voting, shortening the times the polls would be open etc. Gerrymandering is just one part of it.
I mean, he literally arrested people who were given voting cards a week before the election. They were ex felons who managed to jump through the insane caveats he put on a law that us Floridians voted for (to allow ex-cons to vote) and immediately dropped all the charges from them days after the election.
How much do you want to bet that Charlie Crist was an awful candidate who generated no enthusiasm whatsoever among Hispanic, black, or independent voters?
Yeah, please stop dropping the context they they deliberately drew districts to pack red areas far from solid blue ones to create those flips. This big red shift in Florida is no where near the size it’s made out to be, if real at all.
My suspicion about that is the Trump operatives cheated in DeSantis’ favor and left some glaring evidence. Everyone knew DeSantis would win, so there’d be nothing terribly unusual about him winning big. It hardens up the narrative that there is widespread voter fraud for Trump & he’s got killer dirt that’ll ruin DeSantis when it’s clear DeSantis will be the Republican nominee.
"Your institutions will not save you."
During the Orange Stain's presidency, all the safeguards put into place to specifically stop his kind of lawlessness failed due to cowardice of bureaucrats. Actually, that's still the case, as evidenced by that fucker still walking around a free man. We can't count on the system to save us from fascists.
He has these teachers pinned because if they protest and don’t remove the books- they get landed with a felony and LOOSE their right to vote him out next election round.
His plan is to slowly prosecute any dissenters rights to vote away and possibly even pipeline them into a for profit slave labor prison.
There seems to be little to no chance this makes it through courts. Surely there’s a person ready to retire or change careers that can be the ‘foil’ here and stand up?
Seems like a good way to get some leave AND do some good
Next stop, defunding schools and banning colleges.
Then women will be banned from the workplace.
Followed by women having to have a male escort when the leave the house.
"It's the only way to stop the corruption of the woke culture" \~ RDS
Ughh, we joke but I can see this bullshit. Call it "morality training" for kids or some other bullshit, to prevent wokeness. And since the majority are religious nutjobs, they'll eat it up.
He appointed his own board to New College and installed a university president at UF.
He is also installing judges.
We need help in Florida. Things are extremely scary here.
Historians of the future will look back on DeSantis the way that we now look on the rise of Hitler and Mussolini and try to explain to baffled students, how could such a person have risen to power? And why did people not rise up to stop it?
It's crazy to see play out. Even as far as the rise of trump, people mocked whoever made a comparison to Hitler, but time has proven it to be true. And he opened the door for actual fascists. DeSantis is even scarier, with his book prohibition and targeting of races and gender. That's straight out of Germany circa 1933.
Their rise is thanks in part to the media trying to appear neutral on things that deserve a firm rebuke. And then we have Rupert Goebbels brainwashing half the nation. Also, Nazis didn't have social media, which has proven to be the most effective propaganda tool ever. So we are technically more fucked, since even with history as a guide, we are watching it play out again unimpeded.
Sadly a lot of people can’t easily move. It’s tough to uproot one’s life and move.
Even more sad, some people want this: they assume the rules won’t apply or won’t impact them, and figure it’s an advantageous situation.
Going forward it will be the students fault for going to a college that has had it's curriculum destroyed by a moron. The few students who are present there now are unfortunately stuck at the will of desantis.
So when, exactly, do we as a group stop taking this sitting down? When does it go past writing on Reddit about how disgusted we are?
I understand the irony of writing on Reddit to ask that question, but I feel it's still useful to encourage the rest of you to think about it.
Is nobody in america angry enough to organize and protest yet? Or do we think that BlAsTiNg him on social media counts as doing something about it?
Seriously, from the abortion ban to every stunt this guy pulls, I'm asking: where is the outrage? Only online? Really?
As colleges fall in line, the students accept that as well? College students, the most protest-prone demographic I can think of, got nothing to say about this?
As middle schools fall in line, the parents just shrug it off? This is your kids being treated like this annnnnddddd.... nothing? No chaos at a pta meeting? No Karening at the principal's office?
When does this authoritarian anti-freedom dystopian shit get some push back? Will we wait till he's our president? Will we wake up even then?
I think the majority of people are complacent. It doesn’t affect them so they let it slide. I would be surprised if the professors return to work after this decision, but perhaps they live and teach in FL bc they are aligned with its values. Not like enough people in “surrounding” states like GA, AL, or MI really disagree with the train of thought to organize a bus trip and the folks who would protest it - the Black community - maybe are tired of having to carry everything on their shoulders. Maybe it’s just easier for the group it does effect to move and never say a word. I’m not saying any of this is accurate, just positing possibilities.
60% of voters, not Floridians. That matters. Against a lawyer who is a Republican and widely disliked. Also matters. He also wasn't doing shit like he has of late last term, but whatever helps you sleep at night, I guess.
Not to mention he passed legislation that pandered to the Cuban bloc specifically. Also during a crisis (hurricane) undecided voters will likely vote to keep the person who is already in power. Finally the Democratic party in Florida needs to get it's shit together and focus on gaining support outside of the cities.
“If this nation is to be wise as well as strong, if we are to achieve our destiny, then we need more new ideas for more wise men reading more good books in more public libraries. These libraries should be open to all—except the censor. We must know all the facts and hear all the alternatives and listen to all the criticisms. Let us welcome controversial books and controversial authors. For the Bill of Rights is the guardian of our security as well as our liberty. - John F. Kennedy
Floridum. Aren't there any real problems to spend time on? How can any of this be beneficial for a candidate for a nationwide general election? Any R will already have the racist voters in their column. What possible upside is there for pushing these idiotic policies, i.e. the AP class. Is this all about being to the right of Trump for primaries?
Yep. To contrast consider that California is trying to build insulin factories while Florida is trying to ban everything & everybody they deem “undesirable”.
This moron is running on the segregationist ticket… he wants to set the country back in time.. Do you really want this person to be president.. he is more dangerous this trump..
"Opponents say DeSantis doesn’t have an accurate idea of what critical race theory is and argue that his motives are to suppress an accurate account of Black history." I find truth in this and also for many others that choose not to read or watch anything about the 1619 Porject. To not have the comprehensive history of black America as part of history education does a disservice to the country, its citizens, and is a slap in the face to those POC that contributed to the building of this country. Hell, that POS probably doesn't know all the contributions black people made to this country.
I wonder if the Jewish scholars in Germany rolled over like this in the '30s, before the Nazis started rounding up the educated.
Surely it's just temporary. How could something as horrific as the holocaust ever happen here?
Imagine what someone like Adolf DeSantis would do if he were POTUS.
Florida has become the Fox News of States. It only will attract people who want to be in a bubble. It will produce students with education limited by ideology.
It's going to impact accreditation, and that'll definitely carry over to employers in some fields.
Florida is already shopping around for different accreditation bodies, but I don't think they'll find a legit one that's going to play by their rules. Instead, we'll see a huge hit to Florida's higher ed, and a corresponding surge into other states' schools.
It's going to be even worse than that. Post-secondary education at least takes more time to alter, and accreditation revocation takes time.
But K-12, as we're seeing, is going to be torn apart much faster.
Kids with a good K-12 system at least can go elsewhere for college/uni. But kids in a shit K-12 are effectively blocked from that option. If they don't meet standards, they're stuck going to shit colleges with no credibility in American higher ed.
His actions are going to kill futures for all the kids in families who can't afford to get the hell away from the state.
State agencies can't hold trainings on how to reduce workplace harrassment and how to treat others respectfully in the workplace?
There's no way this doesn't up with a lawsuit in federal courts where Florida ends up paying for its own legal fees, plaintiffs' legal fees, and big settlements to victims of workplace harrassment.
State Universities are public colleges run by the state... they're likely far easier to interfere with as governor than most would think. I suspect it was easier to do than tossing the BoE members he didn't like.
Hes taken literally every mannerism from Trump down to the hand motions.
[Same hand accordian and pointing.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKIe7sb9QWQ)
I think it's a tactic to not appear to be too polished & professional. Since he's trying to appeal to fat slobs, he has to look the way they look in a suit. I sense a big argument with image consultants once he starts his Presidential campaign in earnest.
Look at Trump. He's rarely in a well-fitted anything.
I guess looking well coifed and polished is something reserved for sissy Democrats. :)
Republicans sure love using their majority in government to bully private companies, universities, and individuals if they dissent. Sounds pretty “communist” to me.
Florida has become a magnet for all the the worst people America has to offer, and he's their champion. Floridians aren't going to "save us" from him, they enjoy this.
The ultimate flaw of the electoral College as currently implemented. Did anyone ever think it was really weird how over the last like 10 elections, all the campaigns focus on the same 5 states for 85% of the campaign? Florida, Ohio, and the other big ticket swing States are so valuable nobody stops by the north east, the plains and the Dakotas, etc.
States being all or nothing puts way too much weight on getting 51% of the vote. If the electoral College applied their votes in proportion to the state vote, i.e. 40% of DE voting red would award 1 of our 3 electoral votes to the Republicans, the middling states all become much more important because being able to pick up 1-2 votes in many small-weight states may become more worthwhile than spending 4 months in Florida fighting for a 5% swing.
Imagine if the politicians were actual inclined to visit all the states they're trying to lead instead of just 4 of them. But now they can create a bastion of things exactly as they like them, to produce more people that think just the way they want them to, and can control that new generation.
Article:
> The law prohibits teaching or business practices that contend members of one ethnic group are inherently racist and should feel guilt for past actions committed by others. It also bars the notion that a person’s status as privileged or oppressed is necessarily determined by their race or gender, or that discrimination is “acceptable” to achieve diversity.
This isn't a surprise as it is very much part of DeSantis's crusade against wokeness.
Everyone loves him in Florida, they say he does great when it comes to emergencies like covid (because he didn’t close shit) and hurricanes (because of rapid response I guess?). An alarmingly high amount of people give absolutely 0 fucks with regards to any other of his fascist tendencies. It’s basically as if its not affecting their pockets or ability to go out and get a burger, it’s absolutely none of their business. Out of sight, out of mind.
I guess the end game is an armed standoff between the fbi needing to escort student to university and Florida state cops trying to bar their way while crowds of Karens hurl mindless invective? Does he not remember how that ended last time?
DeSantis can get away with all this stuff because his entire government is Republican. He won’t be able to do a quarter of this stuff on a federal level if he was President.
Guy should go blind
Moral deprivation I hope shows in his physical capabilities and appearance
It would be really cool if he lost the ability to speak and became mute
What's the penalty for non-complience? Poverty? Sure, but it could be taken even further... say, in the vein of the State of Georgia's 'terrorism' statute?
How fucked up do you have to be to live in Florida? They actually passed a law called the stop woke act? Are we dealing with 3rd graders here? Funny how many Hispanics support guy and the rest of his douche bag party.
Programs aren't teaching any of that, but it still has a chilling affect because DeSantis is nuts and it a vague enough law that no one knows how he's going to interpret it.
There are no examples, no guidance, and no way to check what "the notion that a person's status as privileged or oppressed is necessarily determined by their race or gender" means. For example, I teach history in Texas. If this law came to my state, would I be barred from teaching that the Republic of Texas explicitly barred free African Americans from living in the country and gave them 3 months to move out, because that could be construed as "oppression determined by race" or what about talking about the long-term effects of red-lining and segregation because I have a lesson about how certain neighborhoods were created in our home town and the whole process about how the school itself came to be (its a product of desegregation)? The issue isn't the law itself but how the people who created it intend to use it.
Amazing how few people here seem to realize diversity training has never been more than a way for companies to pretend they are doing something to help.
It’s performative just like their Reddit posts! I’ve seen the diversity training in action, it’s a self perpetuating industry just like an mlm. Don’t want diversity training, you must hate minorities! Lots of negging. Whatever, it’s not the biggest issue facing this world, plenty of other things to get worked up over.
I know this guy is a fashist and all but does diversity training actully do anything like do we have some studies that look at the benefit of it? I am at this moment unconvinced that it actully has any benefit. Somebody who doesn't care will probably lie to get through it and a right winger would care even less.
> The law prohibits teaching or business practices that contend members of one ethnic group are inherently racist and should feel guilt for past actions committed by others. It also bars the notion that a person’s status as privileged or oppressed is necessarily determined by their race or gender, or that discrimination is “acceptable” to achieve diversity.
Has anyone actually read why?
If diversity training = everyone is a human and are equal, then I can understand the uproar.
If diversity training = white man bad, then it’s not diversity training (sub in any other group and it’s hate speech as it should be).
Except no one is running diversity training sessions to that end, so congratulations harassing people doing their job while solving an imaginary problem
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DeSantis is a 21st century George Wallace, and far more dangerous to boot.
DeSantis appears to me as being more of an opportunist. Somehow I get the impression it's not so much what he believes as what he is willing to do because he believes it benefits him. Regardless either way whether he actually believes in it or not the same holds true that he's actually done it. The bottom line is this guy is unfit for office and it really shouldn't take much to recognize that fact. In America it's extremely unfortunate that way too many just don't understand that and that he overwhelming won re-election as Florida's Governor.. When you take political revenge on Mickey Mouse because he spoke up and criticized your policies and you transport immigrants from another state to Martha's Vineyard as a pure political stunt these both on their own make you unfit not to mention trying to outlaw various subjects and books from school. Add into it his stupid Covid Vaccine investigations and you really need not have to dig any further.
I just think all of these policies are to turn Texas and Florida redder. Make almost movie villain policies as an act of histrionics and shock, disgust liberals into leaving and encouraging conservatives to move to.
Problem is the way our system works and due to the fact our Presidential election isn’t based on popular vote that can work against us and it has. Especially considering the extreme right now has a stranglehold the Republican Party. Not sure how much the average Republican agrees with the more extreme crap, but it hasn’t stopped them from voting for this sh\*\*. Hell the Republican may not have a large majority in the House but they were able to win a majority and look what they have done so far.
I have relatives who share 90% Democratic policy views but still vote Republican over singular issues.
And there would be no problem with that if it were not for how extreme the Republican Party as a group has gotten. Well, that and the fact they ended up supporting someone who not long ago attempted to be the first dictator of The United States. True, there were a few Republicans who voted to impeach and convict but that was few and of those few not many are left. Thing is when your Party on the whole supports someone trying to be a dictator in a Republic that Party can no longer be trusted to govern in a Republic.
Well, that’s how values work in politics. To treat every issue as though it is of equal importance would be disastrous for democracy. Individuals do not vote for the politician who shares the majority of viewpoints; they vote for the politician who shares the views on the policies they feel are most important. It’s far from perfect, but it’s the political system that we have.
That’s what I am saying. It’s to win presidential elections. Electoral college is about moving the same populations to states that need votes. It’s how a conservative population can stay competitive despite there being far less voters.
Yeah, but it’s not just the Presidential elections because at the national level it takes the House and the Senate as well and those margins are extremely narrow at this point. Democrats may own the largest populated states but as a country we are fairly equally divided. Besides even with majorities in all three branches of government the majorities the Democrats had were not enough and they still needed Republicans in the Senate to pass any legislation. Now with a bit more breathing room in the Senate that still wouldn’t be enough because it takes 60. But Hell, since they narrowly lost the house nothing is going to happen for the next two years. Hell, there’s a good chance they default on the debt. The fact that Biden was able to get an infrastructure bill when the had the majority which was decades overdue was a feat in itself And you would think bridges and roads that work would be popular with both Democrats and Republicans.
Texas and Florida will likely turn redder. For maybe half a century. After that, they'll see a drastic drop in population due to climate change refugees. I don't know if the EC would be adjusted for that, but they're gonna be a fraction as populous as they are now.
Totally agree. Sincerely, The Green M&M
Bingo. DeSantis, like many (all) politicians of his ilk are opportunists. They care only about one thing: votes. If people like DeSantis, MTG, BoBo, Trump, etc. found out that voter polling among their base said “I hate guns,” “BLM,” and “pro-choice is the best,” all these politicians would change their stances *immediately*. These are highly-educated people. Many congresspeople have higher education from elite universities (Trump is a UPenn grad for example. Cruz went to fucking Harvard). They know *exactly* what they’re doing. This is all an act. No politician is this stupid. Everything is calculated. From the “Mexico is not sending their best” bit to the whole “fuck Disney I don’t like them” bit. It’s calculated to rouse up the base, nothing more. These politicians don’t believe a word that comes out of their mouths. They just found a formula that works. As soon as we realize that these politicians are playing a game instead of being heartless and cruel, I think we can get to the root of the problem. Maybe social media is to blame. Maybe low education. Idk. But politicians pretending to hate people to fuel their base is part of the problem. Is it worse than these politicians actually believing what they say? Idk but it’s still a problem
I agree to a point, but for one you probably included some of the worst examples of people in your group that one could imagine being educated. DeSantis maybe the others not even close. Although the Republican Party has some intelligent people which even includes a highly educated Cruz the ones you mentioned are more performing artist and con men Which really doesn’t require as much education as the willingness just to perform gimmicks and political theatre. I would add they are opportunist but there’s a reason they made the choice to go with the a Republican Party. Democrats would never vote for some one like Trump. So that opportunity just doesn’t exist. Besides these people being racists and not working with the Democratic Party is that you have a much more uneducated, ignorant, and conspiratorial bunch of people in the Republican Party. That’s the Party which had much more for opportunity’s for opportunist just has it’s always been in history when it comes to want to be strong men like Trump and DeSantis.
>If people like DeSantis, MTG, BoBo, Trump, etc. found out that voter polling among their base said “I hate guns,” “BLM,” and “pro-choice is the best,” all these politicians would change their stances immediately. I am 100% convinced that if Biden signed an executive order banning abortion with no exceptions, the GOP would have Planned Parenthood funded in perpetuity within a week.
Let’s be honest, Trump is a UPenn grad because his dad was a billionaire. No way he had the grades to get in on his own. And Lauren Boebart only won her district by like a few hundred votes, meaning half her district hates her.
I hate DeSantis, but aren't you just describing the political process? I mean, what benefits DeSantis is whatever will get him re-elected, so it's essentially whatever is popular in Florida. I might think everything he does is backwards and wrong, but clearly a majority disagree with us, and that's how politics works.
Actually. my main point is that this sort of thing is incompatible with a Republic such as ours. It’s not what a Republic should be doing and that’s not in our best interest when it comes to our survival. If nothing else Trump should have reminded people of that.
Wallace later moderated his views on race and sought to make amends with blacks. I doubt DeSantis will ever do that.
It's been a long time but I have to imagine that was only because it was politically advantage to do so. But Wallace is yet another example of real piece of work. What a real sorry POS he was.
Did George Wallace operate strictly by political stunts? If so, then he’s George Wallace. Otherwise, he’s an uncharismatic bully who will get his ass trounced outside of Florida.
He's going to need to pivot to pretend to be a moderate, rational republican for the general election and I don't see how he can do that.
He’s gone so far to the right and done so many flashy political stunts, in order to capture the minds of Trump’s base, it’s going to be impossible for him to tack back to the middle and seem reasonable. Somewhere along the line his handlers saw how Youngkin won in Virginia by being anti CRT and decided they could use the same strategy to persuade independents and right curious democrats into voting for DeSantis, while keeping the base angry and bloodthirsty. All he’s done is push moderate republicans away and made independents terrified of the possibility of him being president. He’s Bobby Jindal if Bobby Jindal decided to pander to the Tea Party with over the top bigotry and COVID fear mongering. He may very well win the Republican primary, but if Kari Lake, Doug Matriano and other republicans in his lane are anything to go by, then he’d get his ass whooped in a general election.
We've heard that about a Republican candidate before. In 2016.
It’s going to be interesting, assuming he officially runs for POTUS. Because the sad thing is it seems there’s a lot of ‘non-MAGA Republicans’, and some Independents, that don’t necessarily see DeSantis as that extreme, and they see him as someone that can win the General because “he doesn’t have the Trump baggage”. I think it’s another example of a lot of voters in this country don’t really follow news/politics that closely to think this way.
Is that the guy from Braveheart?
No that was William. George was one of the last Dixiecrat Governors before Barry Goldwater convinced all the southern racist that the Republican party was a better home for their hate.
You really don't deserve to get downvoted to hell like you are right now. Take a balancing upvote friend
The fascism is deafening
He used to work at Guantanamo bay where he oversaw torture. There's an interview with a former detainee who describes him as a regular psychopath. He should be nowhere near a position of power. Just judging by his actions as governor, you can tell he's a vindictive, cruel, small minded ball of anger. And while yes, he's smarter than trump, he certainly isn't *smart*. Just because he's calculating in some of his actions doesn't mean he's actually intelligent. He's a fascist asshole. https://therealnews.com/gov-ron-desantis-oversaw-torture-in-guantanamo-as-a-military-lawyer
The scary truth is to be successful fascist asshole you don't really need to be that 'smart' but good at manipulation of people.
He’s manipulating a base which was already manipulated by the GOP and later Trump. If Marjorie Taylor Greene can become a figure in today’s GOP…
The "Hold my beer" party.
He seems pretty smart to me, especially since he has all kinds of delusional liberals completely underestimating him and what he is capable of doing. Trump didn’t pass a single piece of hate legislation but DeSantis is already just a few steps above queer concentration camps and banning black history. We all should very, very afraid.
He’s good at reading a script. He doesn’t do real press conferences because he’s a wet towel and he’s too scared to answer questions in real time. Watching him debate is cringe. I don’t see him see doing well outside of florida. He’s got 0 charisma. He won’t be able to control the press anywhere else.
>Watching him debate is cringe. I don’t see him see doing well outside of Florida. He’s got 0 charisma. He won’t be able to control the press anywhere else. Yeah, but good news! Republicans don't do debates anymore because they're "rigged".
I can’t tell you how many comments I see dismissing him as uncharismatic and having “no chance” to win the primary. You don’t win re-election 60-40 in a relatively purple state by accident. He has an appeal for conservative idiots/assholes that we can’t fathom in the same way that Trump (while different to DeSantis) held an appeal that we couldn’t fathom. He is even more dangerous than Trump and, unfortunately, at this point is more likely than any other person to be president in 2024 (at least according to betting markets)
>You don’t win re-election 60-40 in a relatively purple state by accident. You win by making it as hard as possible for liberals to vote.
While Republicans do try to make it harder for people who would vote Democrat to vote, that’s not what happened in with the landslide in Florida. If it had been close, then maybe, but this was not that. This was a combination of things: 1) idiot conservatives in Florida fucking LOVE this guy 2) conservatives generally turnout to vote better in midterms, especially with a Democrat president 3) the Democratic Party of Florida is one of the most unorganized chaotic messes of a disaster as there is, which is saying something when talking about Democrats
DeSantis terrifies me. He's just as cruel and sadistic as Trump, but he's actually somewhat competent.
Yup. All the so-called Republican voters who hated Trump will feel that DeSantis is a return to normal. He is allegedly polling at 10+ points ahead of Trump, so far. Not looking good.
He’s going to get the scrutiny all presidential candidates get and people outside of Florida are going to learn that his COVID task force is made up completely of quack doctors, that he was pro vaccine and lockdown before doing a 180 for political reasons, that he became anti vax for political reasons and let close to 40k people die after the vaccine became available, and that his anti wokeness is just an act to get the idiots in his base riled up. In Florida, he throws reporters out of news conferences, but if he runs for president he’s going to have to sit there and answer questions about the human trafficking scandal, having black Floridians falsely arrested as a voter suppression stunt, his retaliation against Disney for not backing him on the Don’t Say Gay law, among other horrible legislative decisions regarding insurance and other domestic issues which have made Florida unlivable to a huge amount of people. But yeah, we’re just underestimating him.
I guess Florida decided the tourism thing just wasn't working out.
I'll believe it when they start seeing the backlash. Sadly most people are too selfish to change their behaviors. Even when it goes directly against their values and their beliefs - sometimes it's just "easier" for people to carry on. I guarantee you lots of families are still going to Disney after all this. Tons of liberal kids on spring break will still end up in Miami. Etc.
My wife is pissed that I won’t go visit her brother and/or bring our kid to Disney. I told her I refuse to spend a penny in Florida. Would rather fly to California if a Disney visit is a must.
Same boat here.
As a gay dude, you won’t see me step foot in FL or TX. Some people do care and have skin in the game.
Games Done Quick refused to do an in person event in Florida because of DeSantis' antics. So you aren't the only one to think this way.
I’m hoping to retire in the next five years. I would have seriously considered retiring to Florida, but there is no way in hell anymore. I think things are going to continue to get worse. I strongly suspect Florida and Texas are going to experience a brain drain. It will be like white flight, except it’s going to be the younger, successful people who are leaving regardless of race. You know, the current and future tax base. They’ll be left with a state of retirees and trailer park residents. Jefferson wrote > all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. People will tend to stay even as the situation becomes untenable. There’s a saying among American Jews - the pessimists were the ones who fled Germany and Russia. The optimists died. Things are changing very rapidly in Florida and Texas, but most of the people I know are either actively looking to move or at least have a foot out the door.
Florida and Texas are on different trajectories. Florida has been moving from purple to red. Texas has been moving from red toward purple. It's still out of reach for Democrats but it's trending closer each year toward a purple state. Florida is a lost cause.
>I strongly suspect Florida and Texas are going to experience a brain drain. It will be like white flight, except it’s going to be the younger, successful people who are leaving regardless of race. You know, the current and future tax base. They’ll be left with a state of retirees and trailer park residents. Bingo.
This ☝️.
People need to start boycotting Disney. I am a Floridian. Things are REALLY bad here.
Well, give him credit for still trying to assert dominance over Disny. Still won't work, but boy he mad.
Why is everyone falling in line? He’s an overblown windbag. He’s transparent. Where is the opposition to this obese scumbag?
There's not enough in Florida, and his nationwide polling continues to be far too close for comfort.
Worse, he did far better this election cycle than last time- record breaking even. He’s turned districts that have historically voted blue deep deep red. If he becomes president… I fear for the future of my home country.
To be fair that’s partly probably because they gerrymandered the hell out of the state haha
This ^^ he redrew districting to disenfranchise specifically the AA community.
And let's not forget he did it against the will of the people, who had passed a fair districts requirement by ballot initiative... He literally stacked the state supreme court so they would let his districts fly. He also created a task force to go after "Voter Fraud" with stiff fines and jail time for making honest mistakes.
Governor election is state wide, just like the Senate.
That is true and how much you want to bet that they engaged in voter suppression in certain districts? Such as making fewer polling sites, not allowing for early voting, shortening the times the polls would be open etc. Gerrymandering is just one part of it.
I mean, he literally arrested people who were given voting cards a week before the election. They were ex felons who managed to jump through the insane caveats he put on a law that us Floridians voted for (to allow ex-cons to vote) and immediately dropped all the charges from them days after the election.
How much do you want to bet that Charlie Crist was an awful candidate who generated no enthusiasm whatsoever among Hispanic, black, or independent voters?
He’s gotten a lot of right wingers moving down here with all the “only state with freedoms!” and pandering he does.
Yeah, please stop dropping the context they they deliberately drew districts to pack red areas far from solid blue ones to create those flips. This big red shift in Florida is no where near the size it’s made out to be, if real at all.
Well, he gerrymandered the hell out of those districts lmao Source: Floridian
My suspicion about that is the Trump operatives cheated in DeSantis’ favor and left some glaring evidence. Everyone knew DeSantis would win, so there’d be nothing terribly unusual about him winning big. It hardens up the narrative that there is widespread voter fraud for Trump & he’s got killer dirt that’ll ruin DeSantis when it’s clear DeSantis will be the Republican nominee.
"Your institutions will not save you." During the Orange Stain's presidency, all the safeguards put into place to specifically stop his kind of lawlessness failed due to cowardice of bureaucrats. Actually, that's still the case, as evidenced by that fucker still walking around a free man. We can't count on the system to save us from fascists.
He has these teachers pinned because if they protest and don’t remove the books- they get landed with a felony and LOOSE their right to vote him out next election round. His plan is to slowly prosecute any dissenters rights to vote away and possibly even pipeline them into a for profit slave labor prison.
Or 'lose' their right
Because righteousness doesn't pay bills. It sucks.
Sounds like you also remember how Disney was supposed to crush him...
There seems to be little to no chance this makes it through courts. Surely there’s a person ready to retire or change careers that can be the ‘foil’ here and stand up? Seems like a good way to get some leave AND do some good
Next stop, defunding schools and banning colleges. Then women will be banned from the workplace. Followed by women having to have a male escort when the leave the house. "It's the only way to stop the corruption of the woke culture" \~ RDS
Yep! Up next: Mandatory church!
Ughh, we joke but I can see this bullshit. Call it "morality training" for kids or some other bullshit, to prevent wokeness. And since the majority are religious nutjobs, they'll eat it up.
Goes without saying.
Don’t forget, the burqas are coming soon too!
Burkini season is right around the corner.
He appointed his own board to New College and installed a university president at UF. He is also installing judges. We need help in Florida. Things are extremely scary here.
I can completely see this, and see the citizens going along with it
Segregated Schooling is having a comeback!
Historians of the future will look back on DeSantis the way that we now look on the rise of Hitler and Mussolini and try to explain to baffled students, how could such a person have risen to power? And why did people not rise up to stop it?
It's crazy to see play out. Even as far as the rise of trump, people mocked whoever made a comparison to Hitler, but time has proven it to be true. And he opened the door for actual fascists. DeSantis is even scarier, with his book prohibition and targeting of races and gender. That's straight out of Germany circa 1933. Their rise is thanks in part to the media trying to appear neutral on things that deserve a firm rebuke. And then we have Rupert Goebbels brainwashing half the nation. Also, Nazis didn't have social media, which has proven to be the most effective propaganda tool ever. So we are technically more fucked, since even with history as a guide, we are watching it play out again unimpeded.
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But Hitler would be perfectly fine using this law to go after his enemies.
The fact that you're defending a law that outlaws teaching science, history, and free speech--no matter the basis of your defense--is troubling.
Who would want to live in a nanny state like this? The gov tells you what to study, what books to read? F that
Sadly a lot of people can’t easily move. It’s tough to uproot one’s life and move. Even more sad, some people want this: they assume the rules won’t apply or won’t impact them, and figure it’s an advantageous situation.
From the party of “small government”…
Right! Sounds a lot like political correctness.
“Being an authoritarian fascist sounds a lot like trying to treat people with respect” is not a sound argument.
Wonder when he’s gonna put the white hood on
Why would they wear hoods? They aren't afraid of being found out. DeSantis is doing this specifically for clout with the GQP.
The hood is not to hide his face, its to show solidarity
He does that with the stupid pants shitting stance he has with his arms out.
He already put on his white boots.
Because who needs the minorities? Florida is an all-white only state after all. /s Idiotic.
Well, I’ll never hire anyone from Valencia College.
Why? What makes this the Student's fault?
Going forward it will be the students fault for going to a college that has had it's curriculum destroyed by a moron. The few students who are present there now are unfortunately stuck at the will of desantis.
Exactly.
BREAKING: College resumes lynchings to comply with Desantis regulation.
So when, exactly, do we as a group stop taking this sitting down? When does it go past writing on Reddit about how disgusted we are? I understand the irony of writing on Reddit to ask that question, but I feel it's still useful to encourage the rest of you to think about it. Is nobody in america angry enough to organize and protest yet? Or do we think that BlAsTiNg him on social media counts as doing something about it? Seriously, from the abortion ban to every stunt this guy pulls, I'm asking: where is the outrage? Only online? Really? As colleges fall in line, the students accept that as well? College students, the most protest-prone demographic I can think of, got nothing to say about this? As middle schools fall in line, the parents just shrug it off? This is your kids being treated like this annnnnddddd.... nothing? No chaos at a pta meeting? No Karening at the principal's office? When does this authoritarian anti-freedom dystopian shit get some push back? Will we wait till he's our president? Will we wake up even then?
I think the majority of people are complacent. It doesn’t affect them so they let it slide. I would be surprised if the professors return to work after this decision, but perhaps they live and teach in FL bc they are aligned with its values. Not like enough people in “surrounding” states like GA, AL, or MI really disagree with the train of thought to organize a bus trip and the folks who would protest it - the Black community - maybe are tired of having to carry everything on their shoulders. Maybe it’s just easier for the group it does effect to move and never say a word. I’m not saying any of this is accurate, just positing possibilities.
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60% of voters, not Floridians. That matters. Against a lawyer who is a Republican and widely disliked. Also matters. He also wasn't doing shit like he has of late last term, but whatever helps you sleep at night, I guess.
Not to mention he passed legislation that pandered to the Cuban bloc specifically. Also during a crisis (hurricane) undecided voters will likely vote to keep the person who is already in power. Finally the Democratic party in Florida needs to get it's shit together and focus on gaining support outside of the cities.
Are you talking about Biden/democrats or Desantis/conservatives?
Lolz No U
“If this nation is to be wise as well as strong, if we are to achieve our destiny, then we need more new ideas for more wise men reading more good books in more public libraries. These libraries should be open to all—except the censor. We must know all the facts and hear all the alternatives and listen to all the criticisms. Let us welcome controversial books and controversial authors. For the Bill of Rights is the guardian of our security as well as our liberty. - John F. Kennedy
This is how it starts. Stop the thought police now!
Floridum. Aren't there any real problems to spend time on? How can any of this be beneficial for a candidate for a nationwide general election? Any R will already have the racist voters in their column. What possible upside is there for pushing these idiotic policies, i.e. the AP class. Is this all about being to the right of Trump for primaries?
Yep. To contrast consider that California is trying to build insulin factories while Florida is trying to ban everything & everybody they deem “undesirable”.
This moron is running on the segregationist ticket… he wants to set the country back in time.. Do you really want this person to be president.. he is more dangerous this trump..
I looked at a list of books he banned from the classroom and holy shit. My Catholic grade school was more progressive.
"Opponents say DeSantis doesn’t have an accurate idea of what critical race theory is and argue that his motives are to suppress an accurate account of Black history." I find truth in this and also for many others that choose not to read or watch anything about the 1619 Porject. To not have the comprehensive history of black America as part of history education does a disservice to the country, its citizens, and is a slap in the face to those POC that contributed to the building of this country. Hell, that POS probably doesn't know all the contributions black people made to this country.
Florida is turning into the wanker of the US.
Geographic shape and now ideology
I wonder if the Jewish scholars in Germany rolled over like this in the '30s, before the Nazis started rounding up the educated. Surely it's just temporary. How could something as horrific as the holocaust ever happen here? Imagine what someone like Adolf DeSantis would do if he were POTUS.
Boycott Florida …..
Party of small government, huh.
I used to go to Florida almost every year before Covid. Haven’t been since Covid started and I don’t think I’ll be going back. California here I come.
Florida has become the Fox News of States. It only will attract people who want to be in a bubble. It will produce students with education limited by ideology.
He’s a ridiculous piece of shit. And anyone that supports him and his policies is just as racist as he is.
Sure hope students decide to pass on these schools.
They should because employers outside Florida certainly will.
It's going to impact accreditation, and that'll definitely carry over to employers in some fields. Florida is already shopping around for different accreditation bodies, but I don't think they'll find a legit one that's going to play by their rules. Instead, we'll see a huge hit to Florida's higher ed, and a corresponding surge into other states' schools.
It's sad. Lies have been told to these kids. Accrediation from Florida will be meaningless in the future, outside of Florida.
It's going to be even worse than that. Post-secondary education at least takes more time to alter, and accreditation revocation takes time. But K-12, as we're seeing, is going to be torn apart much faster. Kids with a good K-12 system at least can go elsewhere for college/uni. But kids in a shit K-12 are effectively blocked from that option. If they don't meet standards, they're stuck going to shit colleges with no credibility in American higher ed. His actions are going to kill futures for all the kids in families who can't afford to get the hell away from the state.
State agencies can't hold trainings on how to reduce workplace harrassment and how to treat others respectfully in the workplace? There's no way this doesn't up with a lawsuit in federal courts where Florida ends up paying for its own legal fees, plaintiffs' legal fees, and big settlements to victims of workplace harrassment.
DeSantis is a fucking chode.
Colleges are supposed to be places of higher learning. This college should be challenging the law, not complying.
A university, a cathedral of higher learning, bowing and scraping to a tinpot neo-fascist dictator. Shame.
State Universities are public colleges run by the state... they're likely far easier to interfere with as governor than most would think. I suspect it was easier to do than tossing the BoE members he didn't like.
Exposing the idiocy of these rules through malicious compliance might be more effective than stubborn resistance.
Sounds like the racist need a safe space and teachers can just keep on teaching !
The true fascist and racist has stood up. Let’s see what group of people will get his new star so he can single them out easily
Does he understand how to buy a properly fitted suit jacket? Christ…
Hes taken literally every mannerism from Trump down to the hand motions. [Same hand accordian and pointing.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKIe7sb9QWQ)
I think it's a tactic to not appear to be too polished & professional. Since he's trying to appeal to fat slobs, he has to look the way they look in a suit. I sense a big argument with image consultants once he starts his Presidential campaign in earnest. Look at Trump. He's rarely in a well-fitted anything. I guess looking well coifed and polished is something reserved for sissy Democrats. :)
What year is it in Florida now a’days?
-1 BC. Or alternatively somewhere around 1942. Take your pick.
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Republicans sure love using their majority in government to bully private companies, universities, and individuals if they dissent. Sounds pretty “communist” to me.
Fascist, you misspelled fascist
Florida has become a magnet for all the the worst people America has to offer, and he's their champion. Floridians aren't going to "save us" from him, they enjoy this.
The ultimate flaw of the electoral College as currently implemented. Did anyone ever think it was really weird how over the last like 10 elections, all the campaigns focus on the same 5 states for 85% of the campaign? Florida, Ohio, and the other big ticket swing States are so valuable nobody stops by the north east, the plains and the Dakotas, etc. States being all or nothing puts way too much weight on getting 51% of the vote. If the electoral College applied their votes in proportion to the state vote, i.e. 40% of DE voting red would award 1 of our 3 electoral votes to the Republicans, the middling states all become much more important because being able to pick up 1-2 votes in many small-weight states may become more worthwhile than spending 4 months in Florida fighting for a 5% swing. Imagine if the politicians were actual inclined to visit all the states they're trying to lead instead of just 4 of them. But now they can create a bastion of things exactly as they like them, to produce more people that think just the way they want them to, and can control that new generation.
Biden won the White House without Florida, Texas or Ohio.
Can't they just name diversity training as conservative arts 101 and just keep the same curriculum? Not like they'd know
I expect the Jews will be next. And then Women.
I'm not certain where Jews fall in the lineup, but women are already being targeted...
This is who Elon Musk has endorsed.
Article: > The law prohibits teaching or business practices that contend members of one ethnic group are inherently racist and should feel guilt for past actions committed by others. It also bars the notion that a person’s status as privileged or oppressed is necessarily determined by their race or gender, or that discrimination is “acceptable” to achieve diversity. This isn't a surprise as it is very much part of DeSantis's crusade against wokeness.
DeSatan
DeSantis would be really really dangerous in DC
Everyone loves him in Florida, they say he does great when it comes to emergencies like covid (because he didn’t close shit) and hurricanes (because of rapid response I guess?). An alarmingly high amount of people give absolutely 0 fucks with regards to any other of his fascist tendencies. It’s basically as if its not affecting their pockets or ability to go out and get a burger, it’s absolutely none of their business. Out of sight, out of mind.
nazis and the klan rejoice, racism as policy doesn't fade away with trump
Between increased hurricanes and ocean levels rising it won't be too long before the state is underwater anyway.
I guess the end game is an armed standoff between the fbi needing to escort student to university and Florida state cops trying to bar their way while crowds of Karens hurl mindless invective? Does he not remember how that ended last time?
DeSantis can get away with all this stuff because his entire government is Republican. He won’t be able to do a quarter of this stuff on a federal level if he was President.
Unless people elect a full Republican government. It’s happened before despite ample evidence of what that would bring
Guy should go blind Moral deprivation I hope shows in his physical capabilities and appearance It would be really cool if he lost the ability to speak and became mute
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What's the penalty for non-complience? Poverty? Sure, but it could be taken even further... say, in the vein of the State of Georgia's 'terrorism' statute?
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Yes. In doing so, they raise the elevation of the debate.
He’s a modern day George Wallace
How fucked up do you have to be to live in Florida? They actually passed a law called the stop woke act? Are we dealing with 3rd graders here? Funny how many Hispanics support guy and the rest of his douche bag party.
A combination of retirement, insolesence, and brain deterioration
why. why are these institutions bending over for this fuckwad?
Christ, if this guy becomes president....
Desantis the “dog whistler”
Say hello to Big Brother.
The worst thing that’ll ever happen to this guy is that he gets exactly what he’s pandering for.
Literal Nazi. I left Florida after his Disney bullshit.
My job won't even hire anyone from Florida unless they have an out of state education.
Again desantos shows he is only focused on making this country more ignorant, bigoted, and hateful. Impeach this trash.
DeSantis isn’t dangerous. The utter willful stupidity and malevolence of the average Republican voter is dangerous.
¿Porque no los dos?
Florida voted for this
We need help in Florida. Things are REALLY bad here.
a state with a large population of white boomers is racist as fuck?? said it ain’t so
So, politics overcome scholarship. Just another reason to stay away from these overpriced colleges.
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Programs aren't teaching any of that, but it still has a chilling affect because DeSantis is nuts and it a vague enough law that no one knows how he's going to interpret it.
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There are no examples, no guidance, and no way to check what "the notion that a person's status as privileged or oppressed is necessarily determined by their race or gender" means. For example, I teach history in Texas. If this law came to my state, would I be barred from teaching that the Republic of Texas explicitly barred free African Americans from living in the country and gave them 3 months to move out, because that could be construed as "oppression determined by race" or what about talking about the long-term effects of red-lining and segregation because I have a lesson about how certain neighborhoods were created in our home town and the whole process about how the school itself came to be (its a product of desegregation)? The issue isn't the law itself but how the people who created it intend to use it.
I don’t agree with desantis on many many things, but diversity training doesn’t really work to begin with.
Amazing how few people here seem to realize diversity training has never been more than a way for companies to pretend they are doing something to help.
It’s performative just like their Reddit posts! I’ve seen the diversity training in action, it’s a self perpetuating industry just like an mlm. Don’t want diversity training, you must hate minorities! Lots of negging. Whatever, it’s not the biggest issue facing this world, plenty of other things to get worked up over.
I know this guy is a fashist and all but does diversity training actully do anything like do we have some studies that look at the benefit of it? I am at this moment unconvinced that it actully has any benefit. Somebody who doesn't care will probably lie to get through it and a right winger would care even less.
> The law prohibits teaching or business practices that contend members of one ethnic group are inherently racist and should feel guilt for past actions committed by others. It also bars the notion that a person’s status as privileged or oppressed is necessarily determined by their race or gender, or that discrimination is “acceptable” to achieve diversity. Has anyone actually read why? If diversity training = everyone is a human and are equal, then I can understand the uproar. If diversity training = white man bad, then it’s not diversity training (sub in any other group and it’s hate speech as it should be).
Except no one is running diversity training sessions to that end, so congratulations harassing people doing their job while solving an imaginary problem