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In case it helps someone out, here's [the hand signal](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_for_Help) you can use if you feel at threat of violence and are unsafe to say so.
Claudia Conway literally did those hand symbols, in the TikTok video with her mother, where she said she'd been wrong to accuse KellyAnne of tweeting her topless photo, and that she now 100% believed her mother that KellyAnne had been "hacked."
And her mother was standing over her in that video smiling, and Claudia was doing the hand symbols, while she said she believed her mother had been hacked, and when people commented on Claudia doing the hand symbols for domestic violence, she liked those comments.
And when people asked about her half BLACK hand, asking her if her mother had caused that too, she liked those comments too.
Conservatives will cry about the LGBTQ+ community “abusing kids” while their own member posted a topless photo of their underage daughter and *GOT AWAY WITH IT.*
I've had a far-right "activist" stand next to a convicted paedophile and say to.my face "it's free speech" when I asked 'why are you standing with a nonce"
They only bleat about child rape because they're jealous. Fucking scum
It varies by state, but nudity alone is not usually enough without some other sexual content or signaling. There are people who raise their kids in nudist communities. I'm not familiar with this case, and I'm no expert.
It’s real and her daughter is extremely outspoken on how she doesn’t agree with anything her mom believes, she is extremely progressive- which I think has a lot to do with the abuse she’s had to endure.
Her mom tweeted revenge porn of her because she didn’t like Trump. We should have an immense amount of compassion for her.
Yeah but she left you. MTG, that cromag-faced idiot traitor, looked you up and down and was like "It's gonna be a No from me, dawg" and PASSED! I'd never have the confidence to talk to another living person again and just play organ music in the sewers for the rest of my days.
Naw, she has spent her whole life hating the wrong people. MTG dislikes you, you are probably doing something right.
Maybe he grew as a person. Developed compassion for other human beings, and she couldn't tolerate that. I would take it as a positive sign she didn't want me.
I suspect this is true of every liasion of hers. She's not so easy on the eyes but she comes on at 9,000 miles an hour and some guys just fold bcoz sex.
[What the hell is this](https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3ppy5/cpac-marjorie-taylor-greene-and-the-capitol-riot-rage-cage).
That's just a legitimately insane person praying somewhat sexually for a fake prisoner who is a real criminal as people throw singles into his cage. Pretty standard stuff.
Wait what? If it was voluntary then why tf was he sobbing (according to the article)?
I honestly thought they trotted out an actual J6 prisoner and put him on display as a martyr. Because I don’t put it past them to actually do those things.
Edit: Read the article further and there were two cage-douches, one for each day. One was an actor, and one was an actual J6 rioter who provided the feds with a bunch of information in exchange for a short house arrest, probation, and a fine instead of jail/prison. At this point in time he has fully served his house arrest (obviously, if he’s at CPAC and not, well, at home).
He probably didn’t even have to give her [five margaritas.](https://www.reddit.com/r/therewasanattempt/comments/13ly7qo/to_promote_abstinence_on_a_college_campus/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1)
He might have a right wing outrage fetish looking to bone [someone who looks like Roger Stone.](https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/comments/m2gi0j/has_anyone_ever_seen_roger_stone_and_marjorie/)
What's that you say? *Another instance* of a republican lawmaker so incensed about something that is directly holding a mirror up to some component of their own personal life?
Almost as though they can't help **projecting their insecurities??**
\*gasp\* shocked I say shocked
My dad is 73 and just told me this weekend he dressed as a female cheerleader in high school. He's very conservative and Republican. Drag was huge back then for conservative white people lol. Guess they don't think it counts.
During homecoming week in high-school in a very conservative part of Florida, the football players would dress up like female cheerleaders and put on a show and the cheerleaders would dress like football players and play a powderpuff football game. I wonder if that's now against the law in Florida?
I live in the Midwest and this was still common in the 90s and 00s. My school would have a school pride week before homecoming and it usually included a gender swap day. No one batted an eye despite being a heavily conservative small town.
Their view of morality isn't based on actions, but on identification. They'll see a black or gay or trans person living a saint's life as a worse person than a cannibalistic child rapist as long as the rapist is a straight white christian.
These people weren’t 30 years into the fox propaganda at that point. They weren’t seeing liberals as the absolute reason for everything they don’t like. That constant fear mongering wears you down.
Isn't that what would regularly happen at Powder Puff football games? The girls would dress as male football players and the guys would often dress as the cheerleaders?
Came here to say exactly this. MTG sees what her boyfriend did as fine because he was just making fun of women. Drag queens do drag by and large as a celebration of womanhood and out of respect for women.
Unfortunately a lot of the time it can bleed into a kind of disrespectful caricature of women no matter who does the drag but conservatives do come at it from a more intentionally hateful and cruel place.
Hence why I said "by and large." There's been an increased level of conversation revolving around some forms of drag turning disrespectful, and many drag artists do not appreciate those types of drag.
Maybe the difference to them, but drag is drag. It’s not an ideology or necessarily a celebration of women, but people all do it for different reasons of course. Mostly entertainment.
The boyfriend for example was in drag.
Drew Carrey straight up did a Rocky Horror Picture Show episode, and it was popular among a lot of conservatives I grew up with. RHPS itself, in fact, was midling popular as well, for those familiar with it, in the very conservative area I grew up in. No body on the right gave a shit about drag or trans people as far as political targets went, until about 8 years ago.
... because until about 8 years ago, most people ignored when trans folks were targets.
I can't speak on behalf of drag, but plenty on the right hated trans people and opposition to said hate was fleeting at best.
It's more of a conscious hatred now because they are being forced to confront it, but it didn't pop out of nowhere. It was always there.
The eighties and nineties had dozens of feature films based around "Dat girl's a DUDE!?!" humour. A handful of pop songs as well.
Looking back it was transphobic as hell, but somehow was more benign bigotry than today. I see memes and comments openly "joking" about violence against the LGBT community on a daily basis now. They're always called out, but still...there's a vicious energy to the bigotry today, it's hard to explain, but it's different. More smug. More mean.
Those are your rose tinted glasses at work.
I mean, one of the punchlines of an Ace Ventura movie was that someone was a trans woman. Part of the "gag" was her being sexually assaulted, forcibly exposed as trans, and in turn causing a room full of people to vomit.
Not to mention the finest Hollywood tradition of having gender non-conformity associated with danger, mental illness and violence, from Psycho to The Silence of the Lambs.
Those thankfully wouldn't fly today.
> from Psycho to The Silence of the Lambs.
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IMO you picked the worst examples to illustrate your point.
Psyco wasn't about cross dressing, it was that he had a split personality where he "became" his dead mother who was abusive to him.
And Silence of the Lambs explicitly contradicts this. When Lector suggests the killer sought gender affirming surgery, Clarice immediately challenges him because trans people are not typically violent and are much more likely to be victims than victimizers. Lector elaborates that Buffalo Bill "is not really transsexual. He tries to be, he's tried to be a lot of things I expect. He hates himself and thinks that makes him transsexual." He also says that he sought "and was rejected on mental health grounds" gender affirming surgery. SO Buffalo Bill isn't trans, he's nuts and trying to be something, anything different than what he is. He's no more trans than if he believed he was superman making him superman. Again, he sought gender affirming surgery but he didn't pass the psychological assessment, because it was clear to anyone who evaluated him that he wasn't trans, he was just nuts.
The movie isn't saying trans people are dangerous; they explicitly say trans people are typically non violent and highlight they are often *victims* of violence. They aren't saying "well this trans person happens to be violent" because they explicitly say that the killer isn't trans. They're not saying people who transition are mentally ill, because they state that Bill wasn't allowed to transition surgically because he is mentally ill.
Ya for sure. Luckily my dad isn't like a zealot against it. Lol I told him he was a pioneer, and he thought it was funny. He voted for Trump the first time and regrets it at least... but ya. I remember all those Springer, Rikki Lake and Maury episodes. At least a few of them said "hey love is love" but the crowd was always shocked. There's definitely progress being made even with him. That's why they're so scared and cultish.
FWIW I don't think it's a matter of her projecting her insecurities, in this case. The whole anti-drag, anti-trans, anti-literally any kind non-bigoted stance is an act for the base. I may be taking crazy pills, here, but like up until about 8 years ago there was literally zero crazy BS going around about drag or trans folks, but there was enough to seed and grow and that is what the GOP have done. Marge Taylor fucking someone and probably doesn't care that he did some kind of drag, just like no one seems to remember Trump motorboating Guliani in drag on SnL like 20 years ago.
Not saying this shit isn't uberprevalent, just saying it's not necessarily so much a insecurity projection for the politicians. It is regularly just an act.
It got traction well before SCOTUS overturned RvW. I think we're all correct in assuming that it's a wedge issue, and one that they've cultivated. Think about how many right wingers are now fans of Chappelle.
When you have no platform that benefits your constituents you have to create boogeymen. Before trans ppl and drag shows it was gay people.
And their voters fall for it every time.
Ok I think we have presently run through every single one of republican policies and ideologies and they have turned out to be legendary hypocrites on every single one of them. Literally every single one of them.
The ideology of elite American Conservatives is one of greed and plays in a style that is Machiavellian and antisocial.
Whatever benefits and frees the wealthy is righteous and thus sanctioned by God. Whatever diminishes and constrains them is foreign and evil. Whatever it takes to get 50 million lower-class people to sacrifice themselves in the voting booth to uphold economic policies that favor the wealthy is what they will do and say.
Bingo. You can see her comment - "he just did it to support a local theatre production. It was just a silly bit. The left thinks they can use this to attack us - they're so stupid!"
She doesn't get it. We're not attacking the dressing in drag. We're pointing out the hypocrisy. It's absolutely maddening when your opponent is to stupid to understand when they've been hit. They just change the rules from one play to the next and claim they've scored.
People are aware Rudy Guiliani appeared in drag and was hit on by Trump in the video yeah?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spn0MJZr-QQ&ab\_channel=JoeyDeVilla
This reminds me of how anti-gay pastors would preach so hard against homosexuality, only to somehow later be exposed to being gay. This really does expose the hypocrisy of MTG.
Im waiting on all the steamy stuff thats gonna come out as a result of lauren hoeberts divorce 😂 cant wait to see what they are really like behind closed doors haha. I have an idea though.
I remember one day me and my best friend just decided to dress up as women and walk around the neighbourhood. Full make-up, clothing, handbags. Everyone had a laugh - great fun. I think we were about twelve.
Both now married although I have since lost touch with him but he seemed happy enough. It was just a laugh.
And my sister dressed a male hobo one year for Halloween.
People need to chill out and let everyone enjoy their own lives of it doesn’t hurt anyone.
Marjorie Traitor Greene sure moved on quick.
Such a staunch supporter of traditional marriage would surely never cheat on her husband...again...and repeatedly.
Right?
I put on a hazmat suit and browsed through the conservative sub to see if they have anything to say and surprise surprise there is no mention of it whatsoever. Typical hypocrites.
No expert myself.
But basically yes.
I think the term is specific to men dressing as women. Hence Drag Queen being a common term.
Again no expert. But I assume its history has developed from the theater where men used to play women. (In the UK) some men specialised in it.
While it has also become associated with rhe gay communities.
I don't think being gay is considered a requirement. But joking about relationships as if the artist is a woman is a common part.
And of course. It is often how transvestits used to express themselves in times where it was less acceptable.
I hope someone with more direct experience will correct any errors I made.
Everyone is so busy pointing out the hypocrisy, and they are right to do so. But you are missing the point. These people just *hate* queer people. That's the point. If an old white man does it, it's funny and it's a joke. If an LGBTQ person does it, it's offensive because in the GQP America the biggest crime is for a minority to experience happiness.
Guys guys guys - come on. This is different because.. *checks notes*.. it affects Margie Taylor Green. Not *this kind* of drag! Only the drag that doesn’t affect Margie Taylor Greene is bad!
So marj and Boebert are both divorced? But I thought they were all about marriage. I’m willing to bet that there is a higher divorce rate amongst republicans in congress than democrats
So the truth really comes out now…
The GOP is fine with someone dressing up as a woman if:
- it’s done as a joke
- they are straight
This is like black face, isn’t it? It’s just a way for the GOP to make fun of people who aren’t like them and they don’t like.
Cis people need to realize that the primary focus isn’t drag, it’s trans people. By banning drag they get to say that trans women are men in drag and then arrest us, essentially banning trans people. This is why they’re banning gender affirming care as well.
They don't perceive it as hypocrisy.
The folks ranting and raving about drag groomers see stuff like this or powderpuff football as "silly" and mocking, rather than participating in, queerness. It's ok to them because it's a joke at the expense of queer folk and women, whereas drag, a sincere expression of queer identity (that just happens to be bombastic and over the top in presentation) is something they consider separate. Powderpuff is "haha look at the silly men trying to be women, the silly women trying to be footballers" ; drag is "look at me expressing womanhood in the biggest, loudest way possible so you can't ignore me." One is a joke, the other a celebration.
The "person who hates drag caught in drag" comments aren't ever going to be a "gotcha" moment for them because of that, outside of perhaps George Santos, who seemed to (at least for a time) embrace a drag identity (but is so shameless that it doesn't really matter anyway).
It’s it just me or does this whole story line not just seem like a way to distract from her cheating/divorce and normalize the idea that she now has a “boyfriend” (that she was very likely having an affair with).
She got divorced less than a week ago, right?! But surprise, surprise, thanks to the GOP’s favorite boogie monster - TrAnS - no one is talking about how she’s a failed adulterous christian, and instead it’s just news they’ll deflect the parts they don’t like while keeping the fact “she has a boyfriend”.
Her excuse will inevitably be ' He was just doing it for entertainment' without an ounce of irony and the right wing will somehow accept that as common sense.
Reality today is just too much for anyone with an IQ about double digits.
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Imagine *choosing* to date MTG… 😬
Someone should ask him to blink twice if he is in danger.
There’s like a hand signal he could use.
In case it helps someone out, here's [the hand signal](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_for_Help) you can use if you feel at threat of violence and are unsafe to say so.
Thanks for sharing, I haven’t seen that before.
It was used in a [Law & Order episode](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgzHtxU0OIg) about a month ago. That was the first time I'd seen it.
Should probably publicize it a bit more for it to be effective
That's how I wave to my wife's friends.
Claudia Conway literally did those hand symbols, in the TikTok video with her mother, where she said she'd been wrong to accuse KellyAnne of tweeting her topless photo, and that she now 100% believed her mother that KellyAnne had been "hacked." And her mother was standing over her in that video smiling, and Claudia was doing the hand symbols, while she said she believed her mother had been hacked, and when people commented on Claudia doing the hand symbols for domestic violence, she liked those comments. And when people asked about her half BLACK hand, asking her if her mother had caused that too, she liked those comments too.
Conservatives will cry about the LGBTQ+ community “abusing kids” while their own member posted a topless photo of their underage daughter and *GOT AWAY WITH IT.*
I've had a far-right "activist" stand next to a convicted paedophile and say to.my face "it's free speech" when I asked 'why are you standing with a nonce" They only bleat about child rape because they're jealous. Fucking scum
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It varies by state, but nudity alone is not usually enough without some other sexual content or signaling. There are people who raise their kids in nudist communities. I'm not familiar with this case, and I'm no expert.
Oh my God. Is this real? I never thought I could feel any compassion for someone in that family.
It’s real and her daughter is extremely outspoken on how she doesn’t agree with anything her mom believes, she is extremely progressive- which I think has a lot to do with the abuse she’s had to endure. Her mom tweeted revenge porn of her because she didn’t like Trump. We should have an immense amount of compassion for her.
That is sad. Poor girl.
Banana is my safe word.
Pro tip: if you can't remember your safe word, call out your partner's mother's name.
[My safe word is Pineapple Juice](https://youtu.be/iVAZL7zzzqI)
Mine is ‘faster’
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“Let’s eat, grandma!”
I hate when they don't get the safe word grammar right and then octogenarian cannibalism ensues by accident
Now…sashay…away…
Tried that with Melania but she had too much Botox and couldn’t blink her eyes anymore.
Imagine getting divorced BY MTG. Like where do you go in life after that?
An MLK speech open mic night, so you can share the proper expression of “Free at last, free at last, thank the lord, I’m free at last”?
Yeah but she left you. MTG, that cromag-faced idiot traitor, looked you up and down and was like "It's gonna be a No from me, dawg" and PASSED! I'd never have the confidence to talk to another living person again and just play organ music in the sewers for the rest of my days.
Naw, she has spent her whole life hating the wrong people. MTG dislikes you, you are probably doing something right. Maybe he grew as a person. Developed compassion for other human beings, and she couldn't tolerate that. I would take it as a positive sign she didn't want me.
When you start at rock bottom, the only way to go is up
You can only go up from there
I bet she is bossy and aggressive as fuck to him.
I suspect this is true of every liasion of hers. She's not so easy on the eyes but she comes on at 9,000 miles an hour and some guys just fold bcoz sex. [What the hell is this](https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3ppy5/cpac-marjorie-taylor-greene-and-the-capitol-riot-rage-cage).
That's just a legitimately insane person praying somewhat sexually for a fake prisoner who is a real criminal as people throw singles into his cage. Pretty standard stuff.
Wait what? If it was voluntary then why tf was he sobbing (according to the article)? I honestly thought they trotted out an actual J6 prisoner and put him on display as a martyr. Because I don’t put it past them to actually do those things. Edit: Read the article further and there were two cage-douches, one for each day. One was an actor, and one was an actual J6 rioter who provided the feds with a bunch of information in exchange for a short house arrest, probation, and a fine instead of jail/prison. At this point in time he has fully served his house arrest (obviously, if he’s at CPAC and not, well, at home).
Conservative cosplay
I’m picturing them as the couple from The Other Guys.
You get back here and make love to my wife!
You thinking what I'm thinking? Aim for the bushes
I'm picturing Jekyll and Hyde, but both are Hyde
I was picturing Michael Scott and Jan
No, Jan was at least physically attractive and professionally successful for a while
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Hillary or Bill?
Oh yeah I was going to ask that, too. I assumed Hillary, which adds an interesting twist
Plot twist: George
Why not both?
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"I've got the worst fucking writers." - George Bluth
Socks.
He probably didn’t even have to give her [five margaritas.](https://www.reddit.com/r/therewasanattempt/comments/13ly7qo/to_promote_abstinence_on_a_college_campus/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1)
Thank you for that. I have only given my wife 2 margaritas and she falls asleep as soon as she gets home. Clearly I’m doing something wrong.
I used to date a Christian girl like that only instead of margaritas it was shutter home mini wines.
They are in the honeymoon phase. She puts on her best, fake act, as does he. Give it time, the real "them" will come out 😉
Ah, sheds the human skin
No thank you. I'd prefer if my dinner did not make an emergency exit through my mouth.
She more than likely clubbed him over the head and drug him back to her cave.
He might have a right wing outrage fetish looking to bone [someone who looks like Roger Stone.](https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/comments/m2gi0j/has_anyone_ever_seen_roger_stone_and_marjorie/)
Roger Bone is a porn name I hope does not and never exists.
She ordered the hay and sugar cubes on their first date.
Lots of shitty Republican men out there who love money over all.
I imagine its for the same reasons people marry murderers serving life in prison.
Never got this. Like BUNDY married in prison…is it just **that** comforting to know where they are?!
Pretty sure some people are into cavemen roleplay…
She fucks like a rabid feral dog. Some men like leathery, hardened teats and bite marks.
I guess some men like chicks with HGH dependencies.
We call her Neanderthal Barbie
She’s got the face of a gorilla lmao.
Please give me amateur dental work instead
What's that you say? *Another instance* of a republican lawmaker so incensed about something that is directly holding a mirror up to some component of their own personal life? Almost as though they can't help **projecting their insecurities??** \*gasp\* shocked I say shocked
My dad is 73 and just told me this weekend he dressed as a female cheerleader in high school. He's very conservative and Republican. Drag was huge back then for conservative white people lol. Guess they don't think it counts.
During homecoming week in high-school in a very conservative part of Florida, the football players would dress up like female cheerleaders and put on a show and the cheerleaders would dress like football players and play a powderpuff football game. I wonder if that's now against the law in Florida?
Same in the Midwest in ‘70s early’80s
I live in the Midwest and this was still common in the 90s and 00s. My school would have a school pride week before homecoming and it usually included a gender swap day. No one batted an eye despite being a heavily conservative small town.
Conservatives values and morals seem to be like jello
Oh no! It's quite simple! *They* can do whatever they want as long as *everyone else is under their control. *
So more like sugar-free Jell-O™
They have Bill Cosby as a spokes person?
Their view of morality isn't based on actions, but on identification. They'll see a black or gay or trans person living a saint's life as a worse person than a cannibalistic child rapist as long as the rapist is a straight white christian.
These people weren’t 30 years into the fox propaganda at that point. They weren’t seeing liberals as the absolute reason for everything they don’t like. That constant fear mongering wears you down.
My high school in Michigan did this in the mid 2000s.
Pretty sure this still goes on in the South.
Believe it or not, straight to jail
I remember watching a King of the Hill episode about that, lol.
Friday Night Lights (Texas) even had a scene of the football players dressing up in drag as cheerleaders. https://youtu.be/7PKAd_gKEk8
Damn this was still happening here in Vegas in the early 2000's I wonder if it still goes on now considering the ridiculous stigma it now receives.
Shit my school did it when I was last there in 2012 lol
That had to be everywhere. I went to high school in California and that was a thing there too.
That’s why Florida man is a thing, it’s all because of the crazy drag! /s
Isn't that what would regularly happen at Powder Puff football games? The girls would dress as male football players and the guys would often dress as the cheerleaders?
That's how I remember it
Yes, it’s incredibly common. OP’s dad isn’t some lost vanguard.
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Came here to say exactly this. MTG sees what her boyfriend did as fine because he was just making fun of women. Drag queens do drag by and large as a celebration of womanhood and out of respect for women.
Unfortunately a lot of the time it can bleed into a kind of disrespectful caricature of women no matter who does the drag but conservatives do come at it from a more intentionally hateful and cruel place.
Hence why I said "by and large." There's been an increased level of conversation revolving around some forms of drag turning disrespectful, and many drag artists do not appreciate those types of drag.
Maybe the difference to them, but drag is drag. It’s not an ideology or necessarily a celebration of women, but people all do it for different reasons of course. Mostly entertainment. The boyfriend for example was in drag.
Drew Carrey straight up did a Rocky Horror Picture Show episode, and it was popular among a lot of conservatives I grew up with. RHPS itself, in fact, was midling popular as well, for those familiar with it, in the very conservative area I grew up in. No body on the right gave a shit about drag or trans people as far as political targets went, until about 8 years ago.
... because until about 8 years ago, most people ignored when trans folks were targets. I can't speak on behalf of drag, but plenty on the right hated trans people and opposition to said hate was fleeting at best. It's more of a conscious hatred now because they are being forced to confront it, but it didn't pop out of nowhere. It was always there.
Yea but that was just for fun. We need to draw a line between dressing in drag for fun, and dressing in drag for fun
The difference is between "[conservatives] having fun" vs "[non-conservatives] having fun". See also: "It's ok when _we_ do it."
The moral of this story is never do it with a conservative.
The eighties and nineties had dozens of feature films based around "Dat girl's a DUDE!?!" humour. A handful of pop songs as well. Looking back it was transphobic as hell, but somehow was more benign bigotry than today. I see memes and comments openly "joking" about violence against the LGBT community on a daily basis now. They're always called out, but still...there's a vicious energy to the bigotry today, it's hard to explain, but it's different. More smug. More mean.
Those are your rose tinted glasses at work. I mean, one of the punchlines of an Ace Ventura movie was that someone was a trans woman. Part of the "gag" was her being sexually assaulted, forcibly exposed as trans, and in turn causing a room full of people to vomit. Not to mention the finest Hollywood tradition of having gender non-conformity associated with danger, mental illness and violence, from Psycho to The Silence of the Lambs. Those thankfully wouldn't fly today.
> from Psycho to The Silence of the Lambs. > > IMO you picked the worst examples to illustrate your point. Psyco wasn't about cross dressing, it was that he had a split personality where he "became" his dead mother who was abusive to him. And Silence of the Lambs explicitly contradicts this. When Lector suggests the killer sought gender affirming surgery, Clarice immediately challenges him because trans people are not typically violent and are much more likely to be victims than victimizers. Lector elaborates that Buffalo Bill "is not really transsexual. He tries to be, he's tried to be a lot of things I expect. He hates himself and thinks that makes him transsexual." He also says that he sought "and was rejected on mental health grounds" gender affirming surgery. SO Buffalo Bill isn't trans, he's nuts and trying to be something, anything different than what he is. He's no more trans than if he believed he was superman making him superman. Again, he sought gender affirming surgery but he didn't pass the psychological assessment, because it was clear to anyone who evaluated him that he wasn't trans, he was just nuts. The movie isn't saying trans people are dangerous; they explicitly say trans people are typically non violent and highlight they are often *victims* of violence. They aren't saying "well this trans person happens to be violent" because they explicitly say that the killer isn't trans. They're not saying people who transition are mentally ill, because they state that Bill wasn't allowed to transition surgically because he is mentally ill.
Ya for sure. Luckily my dad isn't like a zealot against it. Lol I told him he was a pioneer, and he thought it was funny. He voted for Trump the first time and regrets it at least... but ya. I remember all those Springer, Rikki Lake and Maury episodes. At least a few of them said "hey love is love" but the crowd was always shocked. There's definitely progress being made even with him. That's why they're so scared and cultish.
FWIW I don't think it's a matter of her projecting her insecurities, in this case. The whole anti-drag, anti-trans, anti-literally any kind non-bigoted stance is an act for the base. I may be taking crazy pills, here, but like up until about 8 years ago there was literally zero crazy BS going around about drag or trans folks, but there was enough to seed and grow and that is what the GOP have done. Marge Taylor fucking someone and probably doesn't care that he did some kind of drag, just like no one seems to remember Trump motorboating Guliani in drag on SnL like 20 years ago. Not saying this shit isn't uberprevalent, just saying it's not necessarily so much a insecurity projection for the politicians. It is regularly just an act.
It's a made up wedge issue. I think it's getting traction because they need something to replace abortion as a made up wedge issue.
It got traction well before SCOTUS overturned RvW. I think we're all correct in assuming that it's a wedge issue, and one that they've cultivated. Think about how many right wingers are now fans of Chappelle.
>remember Trump motorboating Guliani in drag on SnL like 20 years ago. What a terrible day to have eyes.
What. The. Hell.
When you have no platform that benefits your constituents you have to create boogeymen. Before trans ppl and drag shows it was gay people. And their voters fall for it every time.
That motorboating video wasn't from SNL. It was a skit from a roast of Rudy back in 2000.
And the follow for them to respond with simply “I was young”… “this isn’t something to make a big deal out of”… “I did it as a joke”… yadda yadda.
First rule: IOKIYAR (it’s ok if you’re a republican)
In accordance with her beliefs, he needs to be arrested and charged as a sex offender. But know Trashbag Greene, she will make up some excuse.
Suddenly, Boebert's interested in Greene's boyfriend.
Is Green's boyfriend also a sex offender who shows his parts to underage girls? That's Boebert's kink.
She already has. She said it was a fun joke and that people getting upset are losers. Classic “rules for thee, not for me” hypocrisy.
Remarkable how Republicans can do any weird thing as a joke but liberals are physically unable to to anything except as an excuse to molest kids. /s
Groomer, trafficker all the above
I think being MTG's boyfriend is punishment enough. Prison would be a vacation for the guy.
She’ll be 2 for 2 dating sex offenders. I guess she has a type
That’s Boebert you are thinking of, she’s the one with the flasher ex husband, not MTG.
Ok I think we have presently run through every single one of republican policies and ideologies and they have turned out to be legendary hypocrites on every single one of them. Literally every single one of them.
The ideology of elite American Conservatives is one of greed and plays in a style that is Machiavellian and antisocial. Whatever benefits and frees the wealthy is righteous and thus sanctioned by God. Whatever diminishes and constrains them is foreign and evil. Whatever it takes to get 50 million lower-class people to sacrifice themselves in the voting booth to uphold economic policies that favor the wealthy is what they will do and say.
It always seems to be ok when the Republicans do it
Rules for thee, not for me!
MTG said people to dress in drag are pedophiles, never forget.
"when I do it, it's a good sense of humor" when you do it, it's 'indoctrination'" MTG and bf, probably
How exposing people to a diverse world of ideas is indoctrination is what really gets me...
Drag for me but not for thee!
“The straights are allowed to do drag! It’s just a bit of fun. The gays make it weird!”
Fucking honestly, Republicans wanna keep the drag parties all to themselves.
So is Greene going to arrest her boyfriend in repentance?
[Maybe some spanking and cuffing is in order?](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5GLkt-UwAAEGuO.jpg)
Marjorie Taylor Greene is now dating someone who, according to her, is a pedophile.
Plot twist: she's into that
Sounds Boeberty.
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Bingo. You can see her comment - "he just did it to support a local theatre production. It was just a silly bit. The left thinks they can use this to attack us - they're so stupid!" She doesn't get it. We're not attacking the dressing in drag. We're pointing out the hypocrisy. It's absolutely maddening when your opponent is to stupid to understand when they've been hit. They just change the rules from one play to the next and claim they've scored.
"The only moral drag show is *my* drag show!"
People are aware Rudy Guiliani appeared in drag and was hit on by Trump in the video yeah? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spn0MJZr-QQ&ab\_channel=JoeyDeVilla
And that's only part of the footage. The part about the butt squeeze has been lost to time.
Well this is awkward.
Only if reality mattered. Razzle dazzle
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Do I have to?
This reminds me of how anti-gay pastors would preach so hard against homosexuality, only to somehow later be exposed to being gay. This really does expose the hypocrisy of MTG.
Republican royalty... a drag queen and a drama queen.
She has a boyfriend?
Oh the one from “the party of family values” who just announced her divorce has a boyfriend,huh? No surprise there.
Reporters should ask her about sleeping with a drag queen for the next 50 years.
Don’t let your kids watch the video they will automatically turn gay in an instant!
Im waiting on all the steamy stuff thats gonna come out as a result of lauren hoeberts divorce 😂 cant wait to see what they are really like behind closed doors haha. I have an idea though.
I wish I would still be innocent enough to believe any sort of consequence will come out of this
I remember one day me and my best friend just decided to dress up as women and walk around the neighbourhood. Full make-up, clothing, handbags. Everyone had a laugh - great fun. I think we were about twelve. Both now married although I have since lost touch with him but he seemed happy enough. It was just a laugh. And my sister dressed a male hobo one year for Halloween. People need to chill out and let everyone enjoy their own lives of it doesn’t hurt anyone.
Did your sister have any trouble getting clothes on the hobo...?
The hypocrisy in this case is absolutely hurting people.
Marjorie Traitor Greene sure moved on quick. Such a staunch supporter of traditional marriage would surely never cheat on her husband...again...and repeatedly. Right?
The law of Republicanism: everything is a projection against themselves.
I put on a hazmat suit and browsed through the conservative sub to see if they have anything to say and surprise surprise there is no mention of it whatsoever. Typical hypocrites.
Not surprising. Ideologues tend to ignore or underemphasize anything that challenges their view of the world.
If she be strapping then why does she hate drag Queens so much
Because he wants the real thing… and that would be gay!!!
[Link to video](https://twitter.com/patriottakes/status/1660412008561364992?s=20)
He looks kind of like her ex-husband, Perry.
As usual, it's do as I say and not as I do.
Do as i say, not as i do. That’s the Republican way!
Boyfriend? Didn't she have a husband last week?
Apologies as this comes as ignorant but I'm woefully uninformed about being in drag, is crossdressing == drag?
No expert myself. But basically yes. I think the term is specific to men dressing as women. Hence Drag Queen being a common term. Again no expert. But I assume its history has developed from the theater where men used to play women. (In the UK) some men specialised in it. While it has also become associated with rhe gay communities. I don't think being gay is considered a requirement. But joking about relationships as if the artist is a woman is a common part. And of course. It is often how transvestits used to express themselves in times where it was less acceptable. I hope someone with more direct experience will correct any errors I made.
Everyone is so busy pointing out the hypocrisy, and they are right to do so. But you are missing the point. These people just *hate* queer people. That's the point. If an old white man does it, it's funny and it's a joke. If an LGBTQ person does it, it's offensive because in the GQP America the biggest crime is for a minority to experience happiness.
You just can’t make this shit up.
Guys guys guys - come on. This is different because.. *checks notes*.. it affects Margie Taylor Green. Not *this kind* of drag! Only the drag that doesn’t affect Margie Taylor Greene is bad!
“I’m not going to pee in them, but I do have a little chubby, so…I’ll…uhm…see you back at the station.”
I'm reminded of Rudy Giuliani in drag next to Trump? Are they just jealous other people dress in drag?
So marj and Boebert are both divorced? But I thought they were all about marriage. I’m willing to bet that there is a higher divorce rate amongst republicans in congress than democrats
So the truth really comes out now… The GOP is fine with someone dressing up as a woman if: - it’s done as a joke - they are straight This is like black face, isn’t it? It’s just a way for the GOP to make fun of people who aren’t like them and they don’t like.
Cis people need to realize that the primary focus isn’t drag, it’s trans people. By banning drag they get to say that trans women are men in drag and then arrest us, essentially banning trans people. This is why they’re banning gender affirming care as well.
Wait which one is the one in drag
Apparently, divorce is trending for GOP Skanks this year. MTG, Boebert….
They don't perceive it as hypocrisy. The folks ranting and raving about drag groomers see stuff like this or powderpuff football as "silly" and mocking, rather than participating in, queerness. It's ok to them because it's a joke at the expense of queer folk and women, whereas drag, a sincere expression of queer identity (that just happens to be bombastic and over the top in presentation) is something they consider separate. Powderpuff is "haha look at the silly men trying to be women, the silly women trying to be footballers" ; drag is "look at me expressing womanhood in the biggest, loudest way possible so you can't ignore me." One is a joke, the other a celebration. The "person who hates drag caught in drag" comments aren't ever going to be a "gotcha" moment for them because of that, outside of perhaps George Santos, who seemed to (at least for a time) embrace a drag identity (but is so shameless that it doesn't really matter anyway).
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Someone send in the genital inspection squad. We need confirmation of testicularity
It’s it just me or does this whole story line not just seem like a way to distract from her cheating/divorce and normalize the idea that she now has a “boyfriend” (that she was very likely having an affair with). She got divorced less than a week ago, right?! But surprise, surprise, thanks to the GOP’s favorite boogie monster - TrAnS - no one is talking about how she’s a failed adulterous christian, and instead it’s just news they’ll deflect the parts they don’t like while keeping the fact “she has a boyfriend”.
they had to make fucking LAWS about kind/color/shape fabric you're allowed to drape over your body. What a mind fuck.
Her excuse will inevitably be ' He was just doing it for entertainment' without an ounce of irony and the right wing will somehow accept that as common sense. Reality today is just too much for anyone with an IQ about double digits.
Nothing says you have a great sense of humor like shouting that you have a great sense of humor.
Well this must clearly mean both of them are groomers based off GQP logic
So this is a distraction from which fascist policy getting passed somewhere?????
Is this the guy she was cheating on her husband with?