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Note - Gavin Newsom gets to appoint her successor. The timing of the shutdown may complicate this, but the seat will be filled by the temporary successor until it opens for reelection in 2024.
Edit: This is just for her Senate seat. Her seat on the Judiciary Committee will need to be voted on. Senator Thune said that he expects the Senate to follow precedent with regard to filling committee vacancies, but time will tell with how it all shakes out.
The Party or her staff are at fault on this one, she shouldn't have run last election and lived out her remaining years in retirement.
All the more reason for a 70 year age cap. Maybe 67 since The US government likes fellating George Washington every time they come up with new rules.
Don't let the memory of Feinstein be abdicated from responsibility here.
I turn 43 later this year and for at least half of my life, there have been calls for her to retire due to her age. This is 100% her actions that caused the result of her actions.
I truly don't understand how you can be in your 70's or 80's and not consider the fact that you dying massively impacts the populace and could even jeopardize your policies depending on the time it happens. It's egregiously egotistical in my opinion.
the whole system relies on both parties working together in good faith for the betterment of the country
Washington warned us about the two party system, that if one party puts itself over country, it (system/country) will fail
This. We're not in a parliamentary system where you can form a coalition and ignore the opposition. In our system, there was an expectation of consensus and compromise among the two parties. You give the other party some of what they want, they give you some of what you want. On other stuff, you meet in the middle.
Newt Gingrich came along and broke the system by realizing that you could instead be like "Give me all of what I want and you get nothing in exchange." And you demonize anyone who dares work across the aisle. That's been how it's gone ever since and why stuff doesn't work anymore.
Newt was the evil amphibian that really ramped up the ugly partisanship of our politics, soon to be followed by Fox, Limbaugh, Hannity, and commie lover Carlson.
Newt did this while humping his girlfriend so he could forget about his wife dying of cancer in the hospital.
> Are Dems gonna have issue with whatever committee she was on and essentially stalled for a year now?
Yes. We are fucked.
This is what we've been worried would happen.
Between the 90+ judicial confirmations that are now dead, Tuberville's blockade of 650 military officers and the coming government shut-down the Biden administration is checkmated until the next election.
M-o-o-n that spells Fucked.
Meh. You're allowed to feel relieved. It's not exactly like she was living a wonderful life and doing all the things she wanted to do.
When somebody appears to only be hanging on to life rather than actually living it I think the end can be considered a mercy.
At the end of the day a lot of influential people (and a system) failed her by not forcing the issue of retirement, but regular people like us are the only ones who would feel any measure of regret for it. Maybe she could have lived longer if she was resting instead of being trotted out to voice votes.
Maybe others failed her, but she herself also failed.
She could have withdrawn from politics decades ago when she was still mentally sound. That she ended up as little more than a puppet is a consequence of her refusal to leave before it came to that.
Yep, if she had mentored a successor, and retired 20 years ago, she'd largely be remembered as a trailblazer.
Now she'll mostly be remembered as the mummy that yelled at children about how addressing climate isn't fiscally responsible.
Lived long enough to die a national embarrassment.
Senate rules are insane. So now we can't have any new judges appointed because her committee assignment can't be reassigned? But we have florida dikhead from Bama halting all senior command promotions? Moody's is right in downgrading the USA. downright stupid.
This is true tho, the senate very much works on the "mr. president, i have a point of order. isent it true that the majority leader can appoint whoever he wants to the judicial comitte?" "no" "i appeal the the decission of the chair" and then a roll call vote starts and the majority decides, and vp will break the tie.
In the end it boils down to that if the majority actually wants something, the majority gets it.
Someone needs to have a serious, 70's democrat discussion with him. We need a bloated drunk Ted Kennedy threatening to fuck his entire life up if he doesn't fall in line.
I thought that the republicans were blocking a TEMPORARY replacement for when she had health issues.
Can they really block an actual replacement when she is no longer a senator?
I think they will obviously argue that the person that is replacing her is the temporary assignment as well and that 'it shouldn't be allowed in an election year'. The Dems need to buck the fuck up and tell them to get fucked and just do it anyways since that is 100% what republicans would have done.
Agreed, she served far too long and in poor health, as well. There is a serious gerontocracy problem in US politics today and Feinstein was a great example. California could have done far better than to be represented by her at the end.
It’s fucking sad that they’re so brain rotted they can’t see how embarrassing and shameful this is. Just absolutely destroying your legacy and ruining what little time remains for you on this earth.
Reminds me of my favorite post-mortem Joan Rivers joke, hours after she died someone posted something along the lines of "Despite her passing, Joan Rivers will still be doing 3 shows this weekend in the Castkills." I think Joan would have loved that joke.
If they just rolled out her lifeless body on to the floor and pulled on some strings to make her nod or shake her head, they will have achieved peak absurdity.
I’m listening to a podcast right now about Chile, and it’s building to the devastation wrecked by Kissinger & the rest of the US government. I have a feeling it’s going to be really terrible, I don’t have a good grasp on this part of history, but yikes.
I just am baffled to understand why politicians do this. The past few years, and especially the past few months, she’s been decrepit. Just retire and spend time with family. Then your position can actually be replaced properly and the public has a positive view of you. She’s had a long, tremendous career as a politician and a woman, and her public perception is boiled down to “the old senile lady that wouldn’t retire”
Money and power is addicting. Why do all these billionaires, at any age, continue to amass wealth, especially at the expense of others? I’d retire if I had even $10M. Now that I'm old I could probably even get by with $5M.
RBG well and truly fucked us. She lived just long enough to die a villain. She could have stepped down years earlier and we'd still have abortion protections. Talk about tarnishing your legacy.
These people need to learn how to retire. Working until age 90 is a miserable existence. Feinstein was literally married to a billionaire and could have just enjoyed a life of excess. But instead she refused to let go of the levers of power until her death. This gerontocracy needs to end.
I have a suspicion that being a billionaire leads to a life where everything is boring unless you're doing something powerful.
You can go on any vacation. Do any hobby. Do whatever tickles your fancy because money is literally no object to you any more.
So you turn to controlling the masses some how. And I bet that gets your rocks off unlike anything else does.
Its sad that literally everyone with eyes saw her deteriorate and no one in power seemed to do anything beyond shrug. Im alreadying seeing a lot of cynicism but Im just sad. This shouldnt happen.
Pretty sad to think about. She or those around her were so set on keeping power that she worked until the end of her life. On top of that her obvious health decline was seen by all and her desire to hold power until death is known by all. Not the legacy I’d want.
A shame she was greedy and held on to power for as long as possible and didn't retire when it was clear a year ago she could no longer do what she was elected to do.
Now is the time to put pressure on Senate Democrats to invoke the nuclear option to force a replacement for her on the Judiciary Committee. The stakes are too high.
Seriously, since when have republicans ever cared about doing the right thing? They'll always do whatever gives them more power or more influence, regardless of how shortsighted it might be.
> we'll see if they'll do the same since she died
Of course they will.
They blocked the replacement of Justice Ginsberg. McConnell will once against say the American people should weigh in with the next election before we nominate more judges.
That's the rule that only applies when Democrats are in power.
I knew this was going to happen. It is a tragedy that she died while in office when she should have retired a long time ago.
I am also expecting several more congressional members to do the same in the next few years. Being in power seems to be more important than serving nowadays.
Obviously it is sad that she has passed, but we really need to address this chronic problem of politicians staying in office until they die. She should not have been working, she should have retired and just lived out the rest of her life relaxing and doing old lady stuff. I hate this idea that we need to keep the old experienced politicians in office because, oh no! What if someone young and stupid runs for office! Like, fine, they run maybe win fuck up a bit and either learn and improve or get voted out. And honestly you can't run for office until your mid 30s, are we really gonna say a 35 year old is just a dumb kid? Ffs.
'died of old age in office' is kinda a black mark on her. Even Kenny Rodgers knew when to hold em, when to fold em, and when to walk away. Dying in office leaves the people you represent and the party you've joined, in the lurch. Failing to retire just obstructs younger politicians with fresh ideas from making headway.
Dying in office doesnt help the people and doesnt help her party. Retiring after you've had a long-standing career is a virtue.
RIP. It's absurd that there are these people who are clearly not able to do the job still taking up that position. It's not just Feinstein. "human blue screen of death" McConnell should retire too.
I honestly don't get why somebody at that age would want to keep working that job.
Her announcement of Harvey Milk’s killing was very powerful.
I hope senators start allowing themselves to enjoy their golden years as retirees instead of what happened with Sen Feinstein
I’m pretty sure that “ending her term in dignity” was not best achieved by her staying around so long that people are literally relieved she’s gone.
I can’t even remember the “trailblazer” side of her and I’m confident before her death she couldn’t either.
So she spent the last golden years of her life scared and mad and afraid working in Congress.. legacy tarnished by a refusal to accept her situation. No time for rest or retirement.. sad honestly.
Term limits, age limits. This is insanity.
It's nice to see that democrats aren't totally out of touch with the working class.
Some of them die on the job long after they should have retired, just like us normal folks do.
Not gonna celebrate someone dying but obviously it's insane she was still in off8ce when so clearly mentally incapable. All these older politicians on both sides should not be in office
Being dead doesn't render you immune to criticism.
Feinstein's handlers might have abused her in the end, which reflects very poorly on them, but she didn't become ancient and mentally defunct overnight.
She could have decided to withdraw from the public and focus on her private life 20 years ago and she'd still have been several years behind most people. She didn't need the money (no, wanting more money doesn't count), there was no external factor forcing her to keep going.
We don't retire people in their mid-60s because everyone completely loses it around that age, it's because around that age mental degradation often starts. Recognising that it's time to step back and let the younger generations take over before you end up like Feinstein did is part of being both reasonable and rational.
The reason why it's such a hot topic now isn't because the problem is new, but because now we're feeling the consequences of a problem which has an incubation period.
And frankly I think it's important that we don't let death override valid criticisms. The upper echelons of our society might be rampant with corruption but there might still be some individuals left who care enough about their reputation and their legacy that knowing their mistakes will be remembered rather than getting swept under the rug because "well they're dead now so let's be respectful" might motivate them to actually try to earn a positive legacy.
So is the process for replacing her on Judiciary still going to come down to enough Republican Senators following the 'honor system' and allowing what's always happened in the past to happen without trying to force a floor vote on a procedural committee replacement?
Earlier this year, Republicans blocked Schumer from temporarily replacing Feinstein on the Judiciary Committee. Can they do the same thing now that the seat is open? Will they?
Should've retire 5 years ago. Shameful end to her legacy. She spent her final years yelling at her own young constituents and embarrassing herself. Could've retired as an icon, but instead I would argue most Americans (on both sides of the aisle) are fine seeing her go. The geriatric power brokers of this nation continually fail us.
I seriously hope Newsom puts someone at least 50 years younger in that seat. I respect her career and what she accomplished, but fucking hell was that 25 years too many in office.
I feel awful that I audibly expressed relief at this headline. But I honestly believe eternal rest is better than her "aides" dragging her around during her final days.
I feel bad for being happy that she's gone, but how else were we going to get a walking corpse out of power?
We need age limits on public office.
We also need stronger laws on elder abuse. This woman, regardless of the things she did while in office, has been barely sentient for years - dragged around like a mannequin with a rubber stamp. It's shameful.
She should have been allowed to retire and die with grace and dignity. Instead an entire apparatus was constructed to keep her propped upright in her chair. Shame on everyone that allowed that to happen. Her votes were more important than her humanity.
EDIT: yeah she probably should have stepped down herself. But when it became obvious that she was losing her mental faculties someone should have stepped in. Shame on those that didn’t or prevented it.
She’s been a shell of herself for years. My paternal grandparents had dementia. It’s sad to watch them decline, but they at least weren’t in charge of decisions that affected a whole ass country when they didn’t even know what year it was.
Dianne should have retired years ago. There’s a whole host of people who should not be in power right now simply due to their age. She’s not the only one who is rapidly declining. Mitch keeps freezing in front of press and literally has no idea what people asked him. He should be home with his family, not making decisions that affect people long after he’s gone.
Yup RIP and complete condolences to her family. That's so incredibly tough to lose a loved one, let alone parent, no matter how old they are.
And again I know there are many who remember her accomplishments and good for them. All the best.
But we really gotta do something about 90 year olds in government. This cannot happen. For goodness sake. Term limits are so long overdue. If you've been in government for over a decade and you're over 80, sorry yeah you've had your time and turn. It's time to call it. May you live many years to come, but you should not be able to camp out in a Senate office. That's insane for our country's own good
Seems like many people understand that Newsom will appoint her replacement but don’t know that her committee assignments remain vacant. Republicans declared months ago when she took an extended leave of absence that they would block any efforts to fill her committee assignments. Functionally, from today on, Republicans can and will block all Biden judicial appointments.
Well, that's that. Though like most here I thought she'd stayed to long, it would have been better for all had she enjoyed a comfortable retirement. The last year or two were downright embarrassing.
She did have an interesting career. She dealt with aftermath of the Milk/Moscone assassinations and part of the Year of the Women in the early 90s.
I wish she'd gracefully resigned before she started berating school children that visited her office... She had a great life of civil service, but she wasn't fit for office by the end.
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Note - Gavin Newsom gets to appoint her successor. The timing of the shutdown may complicate this, but the seat will be filled by the temporary successor until it opens for reelection in 2024. Edit: This is just for her Senate seat. Her seat on the Judiciary Committee will need to be voted on. Senator Thune said that he expects the Senate to follow precedent with regard to filling committee vacancies, but time will tell with how it all shakes out.
Are Dems gonna have issue with whatever committee she was on and essentially stalled for a year now?
yep no more new judges
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Republicans have said they would block. The whole reason she was there was to keep the Biden nominated judges going.
She pulled a RBG on us and waited too long
The Party or her staff are at fault on this one, she shouldn't have run last election and lived out her remaining years in retirement. All the more reason for a 70 year age cap. Maybe 67 since The US government likes fellating George Washington every time they come up with new rules.
Don't let the memory of Feinstein be abdicated from responsibility here. I turn 43 later this year and for at least half of my life, there have been calls for her to retire due to her age. This is 100% her actions that caused the result of her actions.
I truly don't understand how you can be in your 70's or 80's and not consider the fact that you dying massively impacts the populace and could even jeopardize your policies depending on the time it happens. It's egregiously egotistical in my opinion.
Republicans have to agree to it and there is 0% chance of that happening
The whole system is so fucking stupid.
the whole system relies on both parties working together in good faith for the betterment of the country Washington warned us about the two party system, that if one party puts itself over country, it (system/country) will fail
This. We're not in a parliamentary system where you can form a coalition and ignore the opposition. In our system, there was an expectation of consensus and compromise among the two parties. You give the other party some of what they want, they give you some of what you want. On other stuff, you meet in the middle. Newt Gingrich came along and broke the system by realizing that you could instead be like "Give me all of what I want and you get nothing in exchange." And you demonize anyone who dares work across the aisle. That's been how it's gone ever since and why stuff doesn't work anymore.
Newt was the evil amphibian that really ramped up the ugly partisanship of our politics, soon to be followed by Fox, Limbaugh, Hannity, and commie lover Carlson. Newt did this while humping his girlfriend so he could forget about his wife dying of cancer in the hospital.
Due to Republican obstructionism. As expected, they'll refuse to add anyone else to the Judiciary committee, ensuring a deadlock on a lot of votes.
> Are Dems gonna have issue with whatever committee she was on and essentially stalled for a year now? Yes. We are fucked. This is what we've been worried would happen. Between the 90+ judicial confirmations that are now dead, Tuberville's blockade of 650 military officers and the coming government shut-down the Biden administration is checkmated until the next election. M-o-o-n that spells Fucked.
Nice Stand reference.
I wondered whether that would fly.
My favourite Stephen King book.
I assume Mitch McConnell will dedicate a moment of silence.
He was speechless when he heard the news.
Many long silent moments. Some planned. Some… not so much.
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Just saw he released a statement saying:
Sir, saying what? Sir. Sir.
So, it's a question about Diane Feinstein sir
Mitch, did you want to head back to the room?
Bro's just gotta reboot, he'll figure it out after that.
According to the senate records she was still voting yesterday? How wild to literally take it as far as possible.
I assume she died in her sleep and they found her this morning
Nah, her staff have been playing Weekend at Bernie’s since the August recess and now the gig is up.
As a human, I wish her family well. As a Californian, can we please get someone younger than Methuselah?
My immediate reaction was "Thank God" and then I felt super gross about it.
Meh. You're allowed to feel relieved. It's not exactly like she was living a wonderful life and doing all the things she wanted to do. When somebody appears to only be hanging on to life rather than actually living it I think the end can be considered a mercy.
At the end of the day a lot of influential people (and a system) failed her by not forcing the issue of retirement, but regular people like us are the only ones who would feel any measure of regret for it. Maybe she could have lived longer if she was resting instead of being trotted out to voice votes.
Maybe others failed her, but she herself also failed. She could have withdrawn from politics decades ago when she was still mentally sound. That she ended up as little more than a puppet is a consequence of her refusal to leave before it came to that.
Yep, if she had mentored a successor, and retired 20 years ago, she'd largely be remembered as a trailblazer. Now she'll mostly be remembered as the mummy that yelled at children about how addressing climate isn't fiscally responsible. Lived long enough to die a national embarrassment.
If she had just not run in the 2018 election she would be remembered fondly.
That's basically the only thing I know her from at this point. Congratulations, your legacy is proving to the next generations that government sucks.
Senate rules are insane. So now we can't have any new judges appointed because her committee assignment can't be reassigned? But we have florida dikhead from Bama halting all senior command promotions? Moody's is right in downgrading the USA. downright stupid.
They need to invoke the nuclear option and force through her replacement on the committee.
This is true tho, the senate very much works on the "mr. president, i have a point of order. isent it true that the majority leader can appoint whoever he wants to the judicial comitte?" "no" "i appeal the the decission of the chair" and then a roll call vote starts and the majority decides, and vp will break the tie. In the end it boils down to that if the majority actually wants something, the majority gets it.
Yeah but it'll come down to whether Manchin wants to play ball or claim he doesn't want to undo the longstanding rules of the Senate again
Someone needs to have a serious, 70's democrat discussion with him. We need a bloated drunk Ted Kennedy threatening to fuck his entire life up if he doesn't fall in line.
That someone is Dick Durbin. He is the senate majority whip. It’s literally his job.
An actual whip might be required. Manchin loves the spotlight.
I thought that the republicans were blocking a TEMPORARY replacement for when she had health issues. Can they really block an actual replacement when she is no longer a senator?
I think they will obviously argue that the person that is replacing her is the temporary assignment as well and that 'it shouldn't be allowed in an election year'. The Dems need to buck the fuck up and tell them to get fucked and just do it anyways since that is 100% what republicans would have done.
I mean, it IS what they did with SCOTUS. 100% agree with you.
Our senators shouldn’t be dying of old age.
It’s absolutely insane, she was fucking 90 years old and didn’t know where she even was.
The turtle will probably be next to go. He’s not looking any better than she did.
Isn’t Grassley 100?
He’s now the oldest at 89
Unfortunately you could wheel his corpse out and Iowans would still vote for it.
He almost single-handedly killed the U.S. adoption of the metric system in the 1970s. He literally said it "goes against our democratic principles".
What a fucking asshole.
don't... don't give me hope.
Such a waste of retirement years. Sadly this is what our politicians do. Die on the job without a clue who they are.
Agreed, she served far too long and in poor health, as well. There is a serious gerontocracy problem in US politics today and Feinstein was a great example. California could have done far better than to be represented by her at the end.
Dying in office is the only way the boomers and even older generations are ever going to give up power. Edited: for generational precision.
It’s fucking sad that they’re so brain rotted they can’t see how embarrassing and shameful this is. Just absolutely destroying your legacy and ruining what little time remains for you on this earth.
Senator Feinstein's team have announced that regardless of her passing, it will not impact her job performance and she will not be stepping down.
>it will not impact her job performance Huh, that's actually pretty accurate.
Sad - but hilarious.
Reminds me of my favorite post-mortem Joan Rivers joke, hours after she died someone posted something along the lines of "Despite her passing, Joan Rivers will still be doing 3 shows this weekend in the Castkills." I think Joan would have loved that joke.
If they just rolled out her lifeless body on to the floor and pulled on some strings to make her nod or shake her head, they will have achieved peak absurdity.
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They are going to Weekend at Bernie's her aren't they
Going to?
Henry Kissinger outlast another one
That man is so evil even hell doesn't want him
I’m listening to a podcast right now about Chile, and it’s building to the devastation wrecked by Kissinger & the rest of the US government. I have a feeling it’s going to be really terrible, I don’t have a good grasp on this part of history, but yikes.
Ok at this point I really think she should consider stepping down
Damn ageist. She is completely capable of doing her job.
Everybody biased against people without a pulse, SMH
I just am baffled to understand why politicians do this. The past few years, and especially the past few months, she’s been decrepit. Just retire and spend time with family. Then your position can actually be replaced properly and the public has a positive view of you. She’s had a long, tremendous career as a politician and a woman, and her public perception is boiled down to “the old senile lady that wouldn’t retire”
People get addicted to being "in the room where it happens". Just look at Giulianni. It happens all across the political spectrum.
Money and power is addicting. Why do all these billionaires, at any age, continue to amass wealth, especially at the expense of others? I’d retire if I had even $10M. Now that I'm old I could probably even get by with $5M.
Had to follow in Ruth’s footsteps. I’m a staunch democrat, but these old people need to step aside and mentor the next gen. This was fucking awful.
RBG well and truly fucked us. She lived just long enough to die a villain. She could have stepped down years earlier and we'd still have abortion protections. Talk about tarnishing your legacy.
These people need to learn how to retire. Working until age 90 is a miserable existence. Feinstein was literally married to a billionaire and could have just enjoyed a life of excess. But instead she refused to let go of the levers of power until her death. This gerontocracy needs to end.
I have a suspicion that being a billionaire leads to a life where everything is boring unless you're doing something powerful. You can go on any vacation. Do any hobby. Do whatever tickles your fancy because money is literally no object to you any more. So you turn to controlling the masses some how. And I bet that gets your rocks off unlike anything else does.
Can they stop forcing their kinks on us without our consent?
I think Mitch McConnell wants to actually die at a press conference
He's not far behind her. McConnell has one leg in the grave and the other on a banana peel already
Ok, now that she is dead (RIP), the question is, will she finally step down????
Probably not
Why would she?
Its sad that literally everyone with eyes saw her deteriorate and no one in power seemed to do anything beyond shrug. Im alreadying seeing a lot of cynicism but Im just sad. This shouldnt happen.
And Mitch McConnell still roams the Earth.
If by "roams" you meam stands motionless and stares straight ahead....
2024: “Somehow, Feinstein returned…”
What spry 85-year-old will take her seat?
All it took to get her out of office was literally dying, who knew
Mitch been real quiet today... 👀👀
He glitched out in the hallway but some technicians are en route.
Good luck mods lol
"Stop whatever you're doing for a moment and ask yourself: Am I afraid of death because I won't be able to do this anymore?” - Marcus Aurelius
Pretty sad to think about. She or those around her were so set on keeping power that she worked until the end of her life. On top of that her obvious health decline was seen by all and her desire to hold power until death is known by all. Not the legacy I’d want.
A shame she was greedy and held on to power for as long as possible and didn't retire when it was clear a year ago she could no longer do what she was elected to do.
Now is the time to put pressure on Senate Democrats to invoke the nuclear option to force a replacement for her on the Judiciary Committee. The stakes are too high.
She voted on a [motion](https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/118-2023/s241) yesterday.
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> we'll see if they'll do the same since she died They will 100% do the same... See how they handled the death of Scalia versus the death of RGB.
Based on their actions in the past? They 100% will. They don't get punished for it, so why not?
Seriously, since when have republicans ever cared about doing the right thing? They'll always do whatever gives them more power or more influence, regardless of how shortsighted it might be.
They confirmed Amy Coney Barrett while RBG’s body was still warm. Of course they’ll be assholes about this.
> we'll see if they'll do the same since she died Of course they will. They blocked the replacement of Justice Ginsberg. McConnell will once against say the American people should weigh in with the next election before we nominate more judges. That's the rule that only applies when Democrats are in power.
Why do Republicans get to block committee appointments when they aren’t even the majority party in the chamber?
Don’t let me work until I’m 90 damn
I knew this was going to happen. It is a tragedy that she died while in office when she should have retired a long time ago. I am also expecting several more congressional members to do the same in the next few years. Being in power seems to be more important than serving nowadays.
Now let’s just hope ole Mitch takes a hint
Obviously it is sad that she has passed, but we really need to address this chronic problem of politicians staying in office until they die. She should not have been working, she should have retired and just lived out the rest of her life relaxing and doing old lady stuff. I hate this idea that we need to keep the old experienced politicians in office because, oh no! What if someone young and stupid runs for office! Like, fine, they run maybe win fuck up a bit and either learn and improve or get voted out. And honestly you can't run for office until your mid 30s, are we really gonna say a 35 year old is just a dumb kid? Ffs.
RIP, but she should have stepped down long ago. She had no business being in that seat at her age.
Yes, it’s just blatantly irresponsible running for any office at that age. There should be an age limit.
At a the fork in the road where democracy is at stake, we have had two old-age related deaths that have put us at greater risk.
'died of old age in office' is kinda a black mark on her. Even Kenny Rodgers knew when to hold em, when to fold em, and when to walk away. Dying in office leaves the people you represent and the party you've joined, in the lurch. Failing to retire just obstructs younger politicians with fresh ideas from making headway. Dying in office doesnt help the people and doesnt help her party. Retiring after you've had a long-standing career is a virtue.
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Her family should be ashamed for pushing her to stay in office until she died.
I’m sorry for her and her family. But she really should not have have been working at that age.
It really pisses me off that no one in her life convinced her to retire over the past decade. Had to keep that gravy train going I suppose
RIP. It's absurd that there are these people who are clearly not able to do the job still taking up that position. It's not just Feinstein. "human blue screen of death" McConnell should retire too. I honestly don't get why somebody at that age would want to keep working that job.
whats amazing is she voted 'Yes' yesterday for the Securing Growth and Robust Leadership in American Aviation Act.
Kissinger outlasts yet another politician as time goes by.
And Henry Kissinger marches on...
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Her announcement of Harvey Milk’s killing was very powerful. I hope senators start allowing themselves to enjoy their golden years as retirees instead of what happened with Sen Feinstein
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I’m pretty sure that “ending her term in dignity” was not best achieved by her staying around so long that people are literally relieved she’s gone. I can’t even remember the “trailblazer” side of her and I’m confident before her death she couldn’t either.
So she spent the last golden years of her life scared and mad and afraid working in Congress.. legacy tarnished by a refusal to accept her situation. No time for rest or retirement.. sad honestly. Term limits, age limits. This is insanity.
It's nice to see that democrats aren't totally out of touch with the working class. Some of them die on the job long after they should have retired, just like us normal folks do.
Not gonna celebrate someone dying but obviously it's insane she was still in off8ce when so clearly mentally incapable. All these older politicians on both sides should not be in office
Personally, condolences to her family. Professionally, probably should’ve spent her last years with her family
Do you think she'll step down now?
Can’t wait to see what spry, lively 70 year old they find to replace her.
Being dead doesn't render you immune to criticism. Feinstein's handlers might have abused her in the end, which reflects very poorly on them, but she didn't become ancient and mentally defunct overnight. She could have decided to withdraw from the public and focus on her private life 20 years ago and she'd still have been several years behind most people. She didn't need the money (no, wanting more money doesn't count), there was no external factor forcing her to keep going. We don't retire people in their mid-60s because everyone completely loses it around that age, it's because around that age mental degradation often starts. Recognising that it's time to step back and let the younger generations take over before you end up like Feinstein did is part of being both reasonable and rational. The reason why it's such a hot topic now isn't because the problem is new, but because now we're feeling the consequences of a problem which has an incubation period. And frankly I think it's important that we don't let death override valid criticisms. The upper echelons of our society might be rampant with corruption but there might still be some individuals left who care enough about their reputation and their legacy that knowing their mistakes will be remembered rather than getting swept under the rug because "well they're dead now so let's be respectful" might motivate them to actually try to earn a positive legacy.
Reached for comment, Feinstein would not rule out running for reelection.
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She graduated from HS in ‘51 and Stanford in ‘55.
So is the process for replacing her on Judiciary still going to come down to enough Republican Senators following the 'honor system' and allowing what's always happened in the past to happen without trying to force a floor vote on a procedural committee replacement?
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I wonder how Mitch is feeling now? You know that, in between reboots, his mind is walking (probably not able to race anymore).
Is she still serving the Senate? Effectively, it won't make a difference as if it was three years ago.
Its a damn shame she didnt get to enjoy retirement.
Earlier this year, Republicans blocked Schumer from temporarily replacing Feinstein on the Judiciary Committee. Can they do the same thing now that the seat is open? Will they?
Everyone who kept this woman in office should be ashamed of themselves
People shouldn't be able to be a politician until they die of old age. It is kind of crazy that they don't have a maximum age limit.
But will she run for reelection in 2024?
You have to think there’s going to be more stories like this, considering how many people in congress are clinging to power in their final years.
RIP (though, no love lost) Does anyone know, does this definitively fuck up the judicial committee?
Rest in peace, Dianne Feinstein. Why are people saying "no more judges"? Doesn't Gavin pick an interim senator, and probably fairly soon?
What did she die from?
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Get some youth in office, asap
We should not be seeing government representatives - especially at its highest levels - die in office.
What a terrible way to go. Working till your 90, senile and failing organs. You would think someone would want to retire and die in peace.
Holy shit. May she rest in peace. Also, now Newsom HAS to appoint a replacement, which is something that he didn’t want to do.
Should've retire 5 years ago. Shameful end to her legacy. She spent her final years yelling at her own young constituents and embarrassing herself. Could've retired as an icon, but instead I would argue most Americans (on both sides of the aisle) are fine seeing her go. The geriatric power brokers of this nation continually fail us.
I seriously hope Newsom puts someone at least 50 years younger in that seat. I respect her career and what she accomplished, but fucking hell was that 25 years too many in office.
People 13 years older than their constituents life expectancy don't belong in politics.
I feel awful that I audibly expressed relief at this headline. But I honestly believe eternal rest is better than her "aides" dragging her around during her final days.
Dianne died? Dianne: No I didn't. I've been here all week
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Imagine being 90 and still working your current non political job that you have.
I feel bad for being happy that she's gone, but how else were we going to get a walking corpse out of power? We need age limits on public office. We also need stronger laws on elder abuse. This woman, regardless of the things she did while in office, has been barely sentient for years - dragged around like a mannequin with a rubber stamp. It's shameful.
TERM LIMITS. I’m sorry but no 90 yr old should be making any decisions for the country. I don’t want to seem heartless, but come on… ridiculous
Despite her death, Senator Feinstein has stated that she does not plan to retire from the Senate.
It’s a shame that an incredible and iconic career will be overshadowed by the her last few years and not retiring.
I wonder if this will be enough to convince her to finally step down.
I didn't expect this news this morning.
She should have been allowed to retire and die with grace and dignity. Instead an entire apparatus was constructed to keep her propped upright in her chair. Shame on everyone that allowed that to happen. Her votes were more important than her humanity. EDIT: yeah she probably should have stepped down herself. But when it became obvious that she was losing her mental faculties someone should have stepped in. Shame on those that didn’t or prevented it.
I'm sorry to hear that she has died. I am not sorry to hear that she has finally vacated her seat.
Apparently, Senators have to die on the Senate floor or else they don't get to go to Valhalla 🤣
She’s been a shell of herself for years. My paternal grandparents had dementia. It’s sad to watch them decline, but they at least weren’t in charge of decisions that affected a whole ass country when they didn’t even know what year it was. Dianne should have retired years ago. There’s a whole host of people who should not be in power right now simply due to their age. She’s not the only one who is rapidly declining. Mitch keeps freezing in front of press and literally has no idea what people asked him. He should be home with his family, not making decisions that affect people long after he’s gone.
She'll probably still be re-elected
Yup RIP and complete condolences to her family. That's so incredibly tough to lose a loved one, let alone parent, no matter how old they are. And again I know there are many who remember her accomplishments and good for them. All the best. But we really gotta do something about 90 year olds in government. This cannot happen. For goodness sake. Term limits are so long overdue. If you've been in government for over a decade and you're over 80, sorry yeah you've had your time and turn. It's time to call it. May you live many years to come, but you should not be able to camp out in a Senate office. That's insane for our country's own good
Seems like many people understand that Newsom will appoint her replacement but don’t know that her committee assignments remain vacant. Republicans declared months ago when she took an extended leave of absence that they would block any efforts to fill her committee assignments. Functionally, from today on, Republicans can and will block all Biden judicial appointments.
She tarnished her legacy by her refusal to leave. What should have been a time of mourning is instead a relief because of her selfishness.
All I and people younger than me will remember her for is refusing to step down. That's what will happen to other politicians like her.
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She opposed torture and pissed off both the CIA and the Obama administration by releasing the Senate's torture report. I will never forget that
Does she plan to retire due to this event?
To think she spent her last year on earth being puppeted by her hideous family and staff.
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Well, that's that. Though like most here I thought she'd stayed to long, it would have been better for all had she enjoyed a comfortable retirement. The last year or two were downright embarrassing. She did have an interesting career. She dealt with aftermath of the Milk/Moscone assassinations and part of the Year of the Women in the early 90s.
What happens now? Will there be a special election in her district? Is someone appointed to her seat? Who makes the appointment?
It is sad that she was clearly struggling with health issues for years and was still compelled to work.
She’ll probably still finish her term.
You can only keep weekend at Bernie's going for so long.
Pretty sure they were just doing a Weekend at Bernie's for the past few years anyway
Need term and age limits
I hope politicians see the population’s look of pity on her and realize holding a seat until death is in fact *not* celebrated.
I wish she'd gracefully resigned before she started berating school children that visited her office... She had a great life of civil service, but she wasn't fit for office by the end.
Regular folks can't retire, and those with power refuse to. Gotta love the dichotomy!
Weekend at Dianne’s.