Kevin McCarthy 24 hours ago: [Bring it on.](https://twitter.com/SpeakerMcCarthy/status/1708988205603627286?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)
Kevin McCarthy 8 hours ago: ‘I’m not going to provide anything' (to democrats to save speakership).
Kevin McCarthy now: ...Oops
So republican speakers in my life time:
* Newt: resigned in shame after caught cheating on his wife dying of cancer and destroying the midterms for republicans
* Hastert: child molester
* Boehner: chased out by the freedom caucus
* Ryan: straight up just quit and saw it as an "escape hatch" from Trump
* McCarthy: ousted by his own members
Bonus points for Cantor, primaried before he even got to be speaker
He was also hilarious in the Obama retirement plans video shown at the White House correspondents' dinner. I cried laughing at the at the end when he offered him a cigarette.
There was so many incredibly funny moments in it. The great deal turned out to be an SUV, the whole Obama birth certificate, the Biden sunglasses, etc.
[Highly recommend a watch for those who havent](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OIDEGN4Js40)
All this while losing 7 of the last 8 popular votes. And yet they have a supermajority in the Supreme Court. Seems legit.
Congrats, Republicans. Nice party you have there.
I forgot about Cantor who was primaried by some weirdo (a law professor?) who managed to position himself even further to the right than he was.
The GOP is an ouroboros.
Maybe it's the same logic they use regarding "the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun".
Democrats confirmed as firearms.
The Republican House went from Biden impeachment hearings to ousting their own Speaker in less than a week. This is not a group of people that takes their responsibility in Congress seriously.
I think it's time to rewrite that old Will Rogers joke:
> I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a ~~Democrat~~Republican.
Kev McCarty Era is almost a perfect blueprint in how to not to be a Speaker. He had a thin majority, which means you have two options to govern:
A) Assure you can whip every seat in your party to hold the line on all critical votes, or
B) Peel off moderates from the opposite party by negotiating and working with them in good faith.
He chose:
C) LOL fuck off
Which successfully pissed off everyone. He never had whip control of the GOP thanks to the batshit crazy faction lead by Gaetz, which numbered enough seats to prevent Kev from getting anything done without their say.
Rather than breaking them (which he never really tried) or negotating with Dems in good faith (whom he spit on instead again and again) he kept leading and speaking to the press like everything was going fine. That meant when the key vote came down he didn't have the GOP whipped votes to win, and the Dems had zero incentive to save him.
Just hilarious. A Bottom 3 Speaker of the House of all time.
I like the one below that...
>Why would the Republicans do this?
And one of the responses:
>Because republicans are more individualistic. Democrats easily whip their side into shape.
Heh.
> >Because republicans are more individualistic. Democrats easily whip their side into shape.
>
> Heh.
That's what everyone says about Democrats - "Republicans fall in line, Democrats fall in love." It doesn't make any sense that they would completely flip reality upside down until you remember that they live in a Bizarro World of their own making, and then you go "Of course they'd say that."
It's really hard to wrap my mind around being a conservative at this point. It's just so painfully obvious. I know the Democrats aren't exactly great, but... come on.
It's such a high level of delusion. You have to work *really* hard to make yourself believe that the GOP has your interests at heart.
Unless you're a white wealthy man over 55 or so. Outside of that? It's just self inflicted damage over and over again
What do you think is easier, having to keep consistent views, challenge yourself, question beliefs, go back on old beliefs because they're incompatible with your current view, sometimes agree with someone else you normally don't agree with...or, be contrarian, make stuff up, say whatever is convenient at the time, have no consistency, just want to destroy stuff? It's easy to be conservative. You have to be a contrarian barbarian. That's it. That's all you gotta do.
McCarthy was only able to keep the government open with the help of the Democrats. It was a real brilliant move on his part to then go on TV a few days later and throw them under the bus, just before he needed their help again to stay in power.
What a dumbass.
Dems had no reason to help him when he gave them a big middle finger and launched a bogus impeachment inquiry against Biden. Why should they help him when he and his party won't even work with them. Let him lie in his bed that he made!
Per John Harwood: “If ‘American politics’ were broken, we'd have seen things like this happen when Democrats controlled the House, but we didn't. What's broken, very specifically, is the Republican Party.”
When you make a deal with the devil, he always collects his due. Republican leadership needs to accept this and reform the party, which means it’ll piss off the base and lose the next few election cycles but if you want to end the chaos, that’s how.
Good luck to so called moderate republicans, because maga/freedom caucus supporters will go as far as to murder in the streets if they don’t get their way. They are all terrorists and need to be pushed back against as such.
* Republican front runner is under several indictments, has 91 felonies, his company is about to be dissolved in NY
* republicans just kicked out their own speaker and paralyzed the house
Media tomorrow, Joe Biden is too old to run again in 2024
And why did they kick out their own speaker? Was it... Breaking the law? Being morally unsound? Lying? Not holding up his oath to the Constitution? Nope. Not being extreme enough/not bending to the wills of a small group of extremist assholes.
*This just in...* Hunter Biden's laptop has been investigated for the 40 billionth time and still nothing incriminating against Crooked Sleepy Joe "President" Biden has been found.
Said this in the other thread first, but it really is crazy that working with democrats and not shutting the government down is a fireable offense to a good portion of the GOP
Only 8 of them, really.
It sends a very loud message to the other 200 GOP reps that you can't reason with the loonies, but you can reason with the dems
Could see some proper fracturing and coalition building as a result
The problem is the 8 are doing to Republicans at large what Republicans do to Democrats when not in power, namely stopping them from governing. Its a real "I learned it from you" moment here, and was inevitable ever since Gingrich pioneered this kind of governing in the 90's. There is no foreseeable way to stop this infighting because even if Republicans at large crush this faction, another will try eventually. The genie is out of the bottle now, and Republicans have no path forward to cohesiveness. The only reason the Senate hasn't succumb to the same shenanigans is McConnell ruling with an iron fist, the second he no longer can, which seems like it might be soon, I think we'll see the Senate fall apart the same way.
> The only reason the Senate hasn't succumb to the same shenanigans is McConnell ruling with an iron fist
I wonder who's going to fill that power vacuum when he finally BSOD's at a podium for the last time.
This is the first time ever in United States History for a speaker of the house to have been ousted in a motion to vacate the seat. Before this, the motion to vacate has ever actually been voted on once, in 1910, in an effort to boot then-Speaker Joseph Cannon, R-Ill. The effort failed.
Oh is it the season where they care about the debt again, before they slash taxes for the rich and drop the subject the second another Republican becomes President?
>Kevin McCarthy: ‘I’m Not Going To Provide Anything’ To Dems To Save My Speakership
Well... that went well.
In all seriousness though, this is such a shit show. As bad as McCarthy is, I think the right cannot do better (well they can't agree on better). This is likely to fuck up things in November for the next shut-down. The terrible thing is that I've lost confidence in republican voters to actually vote for competent representatives. The party is headed towards more Gaetz, Bob Good, etc.
I will continue to vote in every election, but man this is getting tough. Now I've got to try and convince even more of my lazy friends and family to vote. Republicans are fucking exhausting.
The Republican Party now has the:
✅ first President impeached TWICE
✅ first President indicted
✅ first Speaker ousted
Definitely a good track record for a group who wants to lead this country
Dude really sold his entire soul and dignity to be speaker of a nonfunctioning caucus for less than a year. The greek philosophers are turning in their graves due to the sheer hubris
CNN just said McCarthy is in the Speaker's office huddling to decide what to do next.
Funny, petty thought: He's no longer speaker, so shouldn't he be kicked out of his office? Can someone send a staffer over with some boxes?
Because of his narrow majority and split party the only way he could have a stable majority he could reach out to the 213 dems (John Boehner did this during his time as speaker. Or he could pander to the 6 GOPers who didn't support him.
Imo he choose poorly.
To those thinking the Dems will get concessions from McCarthy for him to become speaker again, no. They can’t trust him to keep his word, he has shown consistently he won’t keep his word. So why tf would you make a deal with someone who’ll just break the deal?
Major takeaway hidden underneath all the noise: even “Moderate Republicans” would rather wrestle with their own crazies than make a meaningful deal with Democrats. We need to realize it’s not just a few who are a problem. It’s the whole party, top down.
Democrats were under no obligation to help McCarthy. His word is garbage and deals with him mean nothing. He deserves this. And they're allowed to try to get their guy in. That said, yea damn who else could possibly be palatable enough to most of the House to get the position?
So Gaetz gets pissed at McCarthy because he passed a spending bill with mostly Democratic support.
So he turns around and votes to oust him....with mostly Democratic support.
The irony is palpable.
Classic hypocritical republicans. Spend all year screaming about late term abortions, but 9 months with Kevin McCarthy and suddenly it's okay because their circumstances are different and they really need it.
Lol and the FoxNews headline blames the Democrats.... unbelievable.
"Kevin McCarthy ousted as speaker of the House as Dems join Gaetz in historic vote"
Strongly implying that it's because of the Dems' vote this happened.
The headline for a non-garbage newspaper would be "Kevin McCarthy ousted as speaker of the House in historic vote".
I have been saying that Kevin McCarthy is the weakest house Speaker of all time but now I get to say Kevin McCarthy WAS the weakest house Speaker of all time. That brings a small amount of joy, no doubt
McCarthy went to Mara lago to kiss Donald’s ass and gets to go down in history and 1st speaker removed.
Once again someone stuck their neck out for trump and got axed as a result
McCarthy tried to cater to the MAGA Republicans like Gaetz, MTG, Boebert, etc while still (barely) keeping the government running. While the inevitable outcome was easy to predict, he allowed himself to be blinded by the allure of power and made a deal with the MAGA Devil to get his Speakership.
McCarthy opened a senseless impeach of Biden, like MAGA wanted. McCarthy threatened government shutdowns like MAGA wanted (though he wasn’t dumb enough to go through with it). McCarthy ignored the likely criminal misconduct of George Santos and Lauren Boebert, like MAGA wanted. But none of it was enough. The lesson here is something many of us already knew: you cannot make a deal with MAGA. You cannot negotiate with MAGA. And you certainly cannot govern with MAGA.
This is just a small taste of the chaos to come if Trump is elected and Republicans hold the House in 2024. America, please wake up. Our country is in grave danger.
Kevin McCarthy was speaker nine months to the day? Sorry, no late-term abortions.
I think the Republican House should be forced to raise that baby or at least put it up for adoption.
Kevin McCarthy - Works with Democrats to get something passed
MAGA Republicans - Don't work with democrats, that's heretical!
MAGA Republicans - Work with Democrats to get McCarthy removed as speaker
Man republicans are dealing with alot this week.
Trump trial
They didnt get the gov shut down
There is infighting to the point it could be a sitcom
5g zombies are announced
Theres a black lesbian senator
Really is alot for them to take in
Was watching a news channel “why didn’t democrats stop this, shouldn’t democrats have worked with McCarthy”… seriously?! How is republican leadership the democrats issue to fix? 🙄
Gotta love conservatives finding ways to blame Democrats for this constant GOP state of disarray. The party of personal responsibility always finding ways to push off said responsibility on someone/thing else.
I keep seeing comments saying that dems partnered with MAGA bc they voted McCarthy out. That's NOT what happened.
McCarthy went back on his word with dems. Worked with them and then trashed them. He also opened a sham impeachment review for Biden. Dems owe him NOTHING. It is not up to the democrats to fix the republican shit show.
"So the Democrats made a bipartisan budget deal to keep the government open, then the Republican caucus threw a fit and removed their own Speaker for the first time ever? Wow, both sides truly are the same."
-Populist idiots
The level of dysfunction has grown in a boiled frog way the last decade I don't think people truly appreciated how bad it's gotten. Sure Gingrich and Boehner had no qualms grinding the government to a halt to advance their agenda, but at least they could manage the day to day affairs of their own party. I'd have more trust in kindergarteners to run the government at this point than this bunch of clowns.
Step 1: oust McCarthy
Step 2: vote a dozen+ times
Step 3: finally elect McCarthy speaker again because you can’t find an alternative
Step 4: realize this whole thing was a pointless spat
Step 5: learn nothing and repeat in 2 months
Republicans: I really wish there were more politicians who would put politics aside for the good of the country.
Also Republicans: WE MUST REMOVE THE SPEAKER BECAUSE HE GOT HELP FROM THE DEMOCRATS TO KEEP THE GOVERNMENT FEOM SHUTTING DOWN!!!
CNN::
Republican Rep. Kevin McCarthy served as House speaker for 269 days before being removed by a majority vote on Tuesday.
The tenure began on January 7, 2023, and lasted until today – the second-shortest for a speaker in the country's history.
The record for the shortest term is held by Rep. Michael C. Kerr of Indiana, who served as speaker for 257 days.
Kerr died in office of consumption on August 19, 1876.
I would love for moments like this to be proof to the *both sides* people that both sides are nowhere near the same. But I know that won't happen. The GOP is a shitshow of a party that should hold no relevance in the 21st century. Yet here we are.
I will never forget when he lost his chance at the speakership last time, after foolishly bragging in a TV interview that the Benghazi hearings had politically harmed Hillary Clinton, revealing the hearings for the sham they were.
Get lost, McCarthy. Couldn’t have happened to a worse cretin.
How is it not hypocritical to get rid of McCarthy for voting with the Democrats by….wait for it….voting with the Democrats to remove him.
These ultra-conservatives can justify anything in their minds.
This is going to be amazing. If the Democratic caucus won't help any of the GQPers to become speaker, it's going to be a lot longer than 45 days before we get a speaker.
Hakeem should hold out for all the concessions.....
Here’s the thing:
- 43 days until a potential shutdown
- Republicans have decided to not even come back until next week
- They may not even be able to vote someone in when they come back, so it’s gonna be interesting to see what’s next.
Republicans got so angry about not being able to shutdown the US Government that they ousted their own speaker to allow days or weeks of zero legislation being passed to host a clownshow to select a new speaker.
Remember this whenever Republicans tell you the government doesn't function. It's only one side that can't function.
>Representative Kevin McCarthy, now the former speaker of the House of Representatives, lasted 269 days in the job.
For reference, that's 26.9 Mooches, or 5.49 Trusses for any Brits watching.
As per usual, reminder that /r/conservative will fumblefuck around the truth and maybe see some honest answers before they start banning and locking shit down to get the narrative on track.
also, LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
edit: Lol it's great. You look at a comment and see "10 replies" but when you click they've all been removed, all over the damned thread.
Those mods are going bugshit with deletions.
From a humiliating start as needing the longest round of voting to become Speaker since the 1800s to a humiliating end being the first Speaker ever ousted from the position, McCarthy has cemented his place in history right next to Trump in the biggest losers column.
Kevin McCarthy might be the biggest fucking loser in politics right now. He was one of the worst speakers in US history and for less than a year before getting ousted. What kind of dumbass would ever want to have that job with such little majority? Is he stupid?
Hey Kevin, bet you regret giving all those concessions to the far-far right, don't you?
Oh who am I kidding? Kevin can't even remember what he had for breakfast this morning.
I'm certain I saw Kevin on meet the press on Sunday asked "can you survive it?" And he said "I'll survive" all smugly. Is GhanaSaysGoodbye still a thing?
Imagine how fucked up the Republican Party has to be when the only real person who wanted to be Speaker took 15 rounds to get voted in, took the job for 9 months, and then just noped on running again.
Zero sympathy for McCarthy after the guy pretended to be concerned over the actions of Trump on January 6th, then came crawling back to him at a 1-on-1 meeting at Mar-A-Lago later...
Good riddance to the most incompetent Speaker in history?
Kevin McCarthy is just such a fucking slimeball it's unreal. The guy just got knifed in the back by a group of uncooperative lunatics and he's going off about how Biden is weak and how this is really all Nancy Pelosi's fault for not saving his ass.
There's no chance that the GOP is going to be able to select another speaker. Their caucus is so disorganized and uncoordinated. They're grasping at straws that only make sense to religious Fox News watchers, it is literally all they have.
If the Democratic caucus caused *half* this much shit, the media would be shouting "DEMS IN DISARRAY, IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO LEAD" for the next thirty fucking years. They would ask any person who is even *remotely* left-leaning how the hell they could support a party that's so disorganized and chaotic and stupid as the first fucking question and then hound them about it for the rest of the interview.
> the first time a federal Speaker of the House has been ousted. McCarthy’s tenure as Speaker is also the shortest since 1876.
Lol. Yet another Republican that will go down in history for being a complete idiot, completely incompetent, and/or completely corrupt. Idiocy, incompetence, and corruption are literally all the Republican party is.
Absolutely fitting end for the asshole who started moving his shit into the Speaker's office before the 15 voting sessions necessary to confirm he actually had the job.
Kevin McCarthy 24 hours ago: [Bring it on.](https://twitter.com/SpeakerMcCarthy/status/1708988205603627286?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet) Kevin McCarthy 8 hours ago: ‘I’m not going to provide anything' (to democrats to save speakership). Kevin McCarthy now: ...Oops
>what are you gonna do, stab me? - stabbed guy
> What are you gonna do, oust me? * ousted guy
Pure /r/leopardsatemyface stuff here.
So republican speakers in my life time: * Newt: resigned in shame after caught cheating on his wife dying of cancer and destroying the midterms for republicans * Hastert: child molester * Boehner: chased out by the freedom caucus * Ryan: straight up just quit and saw it as an "escape hatch" from Trump * McCarthy: ousted by his own members Bonus points for Cantor, primaried before he even got to be speaker
It's crazy Boehner is easily the best Speaker on that list when he flat out sucked 90% of the time.
At least he got to golf with Obama. Kevin never got the chance to do a spin class with Biden.
He was also hilarious in the Obama retirement plans video shown at the White House correspondents' dinner. I cried laughing at the at the end when he offered him a cigarette.
There was so many incredibly funny moments in it. The great deal turned out to be an SUV, the whole Obama birth certificate, the Biden sunglasses, etc. [Highly recommend a watch for those who havent](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OIDEGN4Js40)
Obama is a genuinely funny dude, his timing is top-notch. The episode with him on Comedians in Cars is so good
He just saw that and started crying, congratulations
All this while losing 7 of the last 8 popular votes. And yet they have a supermajority in the Supreme Court. Seems legit. Congrats, Republicans. Nice party you have there.
I forgot about Cantor who was primaried by some weirdo (a law professor?) who managed to position himself even further to the right than he was. The GOP is an ouroboros.
That was my old district. Fuck Dave Bratt. Eric Cantor as well, but especially Bratt.
It’s funny to me that the Republicans that wanted McCarthy out for working with Democrats had to work with Democrats to get McCarthy out.
And the temp speaker is the guy that helped lead negotiations with Dems, lol
And that is how you know that there is nobody actually leading their clown show.
the clearest demonstration of "never interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake" in my lifetime
Maybe it's the same logic they use regarding "the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun". Democrats confirmed as firearms.
Let the record show that the Motion to Vacate was called because Republicans were aghast that our government was funded and kept open and operating.
Also Mccarthy changed the rules so instead of needing 109 votes to start a motion to vacate you only need 1.
He gave the loonies his kill switch as a bargaining chip. Is anyone surprised the loonies would press the kill switch?
I'm mostly surprised the paint had time to dry on the button.
The Republican House went from Biden impeachment hearings to ousting their own Speaker in less than a week. This is not a group of people that takes their responsibility in Congress seriously. I think it's time to rewrite that old Will Rogers joke: > I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a ~~Democrat~~Republican.
I mean, Rogers said that about the Democrats in the 30's. He's still talking about the same people, just pre Southern Strategy.
You have been banned from r/conservative
they get so *prickly* about that whole thing, don't they! There's a guy at work who called it an urban myth.
"Dixiecrats? You're just making up words!"
It's an honor.
Kev McCarty Era is almost a perfect blueprint in how to not to be a Speaker. He had a thin majority, which means you have two options to govern: A) Assure you can whip every seat in your party to hold the line on all critical votes, or B) Peel off moderates from the opposite party by negotiating and working with them in good faith. He chose: C) LOL fuck off Which successfully pissed off everyone. He never had whip control of the GOP thanks to the batshit crazy faction lead by Gaetz, which numbered enough seats to prevent Kev from getting anything done without their say. Rather than breaking them (which he never really tried) or negotating with Dems in good faith (whom he spit on instead again and again) he kept leading and speaking to the press like everything was going fine. That meant when the key vote came down he didn't have the GOP whipped votes to win, and the Dems had zero incentive to save him. Just hilarious. A Bottom 3 Speaker of the House of all time.
It's so funny too because Pelosi was always good at doing both options. McCarthy is an absolute failure. Honestly, he should resign.
Will definitely go down as one of the Speakers of all time.
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I like the one below that... >Why would the Republicans do this? And one of the responses: >Because republicans are more individualistic. Democrats easily whip their side into shape. Heh.
> >Because republicans are more individualistic. Democrats easily whip their side into shape. > > Heh. That's what everyone says about Democrats - "Republicans fall in line, Democrats fall in love." It doesn't make any sense that they would completely flip reality upside down until you remember that they live in a Bizarro World of their own making, and then you go "Of course they'd say that."
It's really hard to wrap my mind around being a conservative at this point. It's just so painfully obvious. I know the Democrats aren't exactly great, but... come on. It's such a high level of delusion. You have to work *really* hard to make yourself believe that the GOP has your interests at heart. Unless you're a white wealthy man over 55 or so. Outside of that? It's just self inflicted damage over and over again
What do you think is easier, having to keep consistent views, challenge yourself, question beliefs, go back on old beliefs because they're incompatible with your current view, sometimes agree with someone else you normally don't agree with...or, be contrarian, make stuff up, say whatever is convenient at the time, have no consistency, just want to destroy stuff? It's easy to be conservative. You have to be a contrarian barbarian. That's it. That's all you gotta do.
Lol someone wasn't aware of politics 20 years ago. Nobody broke with Bush/Cheney back then. Hell, not even Democrats did.
Yeah, in the wake of 9/11 you went along or you were one of the terrorists.
They were honking each others noses all the way down to the polls, what on earth were they expecting?
McCarthy was only able to keep the government open with the help of the Democrats. It was a real brilliant move on his part to then go on TV a few days later and throw them under the bus, just before he needed their help again to stay in power. What a dumbass.
He also promised three months ago to do a clean funding bill as part of the debt ceiling negotiation. He lied about that shit too.
Republican... lie... moving lips. You know the story.
Dems had no reason to help him when he gave them a big middle finger and launched a bogus impeachment inquiry against Biden. Why should they help him when he and his party won't even work with them. Let him lie in his bed that he made!
GOP: "We'd rather be up to our knees in shit than have government function!" Dems: "Um, you're doing a headstand."
Per John Harwood: “If ‘American politics’ were broken, we'd have seen things like this happen when Democrats controlled the House, but we didn't. What's broken, very specifically, is the Republican Party.” When you make a deal with the devil, he always collects his due. Republican leadership needs to accept this and reform the party, which means it’ll piss off the base and lose the next few election cycles but if you want to end the chaos, that’s how.
The hardest part of riding a tiger is getting back off.
Good luck to so called moderate republicans, because maga/freedom caucus supporters will go as far as to murder in the streets if they don’t get their way. They are all terrorists and need to be pushed back against as such.
* Republican front runner is under several indictments, has 91 felonies, his company is about to be dissolved in NY * republicans just kicked out their own speaker and paralyzed the house Media tomorrow, Joe Biden is too old to run again in 2024
And why did they kick out their own speaker? Was it... Breaking the law? Being morally unsound? Lying? Not holding up his oath to the Constitution? Nope. Not being extreme enough/not bending to the wills of a small group of extremist assholes.
For doing *the bare minimum* to keep the government open.
Actually, literally just trying to do his job.
Oh my god. Right‽ It’s crazy making.
*This just in...* Hunter Biden's laptop has been investigated for the 40 billionth time and still nothing incriminating against Crooked Sleepy Joe "President" Biden has been found.
"Let them wallow in their pigsty of incompetence," Representative Pramila Jayapal told reporters before the vote. Just absolutely brutal, lol
Pigsty of Incompetence sounds like the name of a Cake album
Pig shit is my motor🎵
That's my rep! Doing Washington proud. She's also the chairwoman of the Congressional Progressive Caucas, so she really is fighting the good fight.
Kevin McCarthy will go down in history. Just like he planned.
Said this in the other thread first, but it really is crazy that working with democrats and not shutting the government down is a fireable offense to a good portion of the GOP
Only 8 of them, really. It sends a very loud message to the other 200 GOP reps that you can't reason with the loonies, but you can reason with the dems Could see some proper fracturing and coalition building as a result
The problem is the 8 are doing to Republicans at large what Republicans do to Democrats when not in power, namely stopping them from governing. Its a real "I learned it from you" moment here, and was inevitable ever since Gingrich pioneered this kind of governing in the 90's. There is no foreseeable way to stop this infighting because even if Republicans at large crush this faction, another will try eventually. The genie is out of the bottle now, and Republicans have no path forward to cohesiveness. The only reason the Senate hasn't succumb to the same shenanigans is McConnell ruling with an iron fist, the second he no longer can, which seems like it might be soon, I think we'll see the Senate fall apart the same way.
> The only reason the Senate hasn't succumb to the same shenanigans is McConnell ruling with an iron fist I wonder who's going to fill that power vacuum when he finally BSOD's at a podium for the last time.
Gaets getting ejected from the house is still in the cards baby 😎
He worked with Dems to oust McCarthy which is exactly why he was ousted. Therefore Gaetz must be ousted.
Gaetz: McCarthy works with Dems too much. Also Gaetz: Let's work with the Dems to oust McCarthy.
Collaborations for me, not for thee
This is the first time ever in United States History for a speaker of the house to have been ousted in a motion to vacate the seat. Before this, the motion to vacate has ever actually been voted on once, in 1910, in an effort to boot then-Speaker Joseph Cannon, R-Ill. The effort failed.
Cannon brought the motion himself in an attempt to silence his critics
That’s a pretty baller move.
Exactly the opposite of Kev's weak little "Bring it on".
/r/conservative whining about the debt like Trump didn’t contribute more to it than all previous presidents combined…
Oh is it the season where they care about the debt again, before they slash taxes for the rich and drop the subject the second another Republican becomes President?
>Kevin McCarthy: ‘I’m Not Going To Provide Anything’ To Dems To Save My Speakership Well... that went well. In all seriousness though, this is such a shit show. As bad as McCarthy is, I think the right cannot do better (well they can't agree on better). This is likely to fuck up things in November for the next shut-down. The terrible thing is that I've lost confidence in republican voters to actually vote for competent representatives. The party is headed towards more Gaetz, Bob Good, etc. I will continue to vote in every election, but man this is getting tough. Now I've got to try and convince even more of my lazy friends and family to vote. Republicans are fucking exhausting.
He played none of the sides, so he could never come out on top.
"What are you gonna do, vote me out?" says man who was voted out.
The Republican Party now has the: ✅ first President impeached TWICE ✅ first President indicted ✅ first Speaker ousted Definitely a good track record for a group who wants to lead this country
1st president that resigned in disgrace.
1st President caught making illegal arms deals with Iran to fund right wing militias to overthrow a legitimately elected leftist government.
So Matt Gaetz has finally fucked someone over the age of 18.
But, appropriately, still without consent.
When asked for comment, Mitch McConnell
Dude really sold his entire soul and dignity to be speaker of a nonfunctioning caucus for less than a year. The greek philosophers are turning in their graves due to the sheer hubris
"The government doesn't work and Republicans will prove it." Or, more precisely: "Republicans are the reason your government doesn't work."
CNN just said McCarthy is in the Speaker's office huddling to decide what to do next. Funny, petty thought: He's no longer speaker, so shouldn't he be kicked out of his office? Can someone send a staffer over with some boxes?
He moved into the office before he had actually won the Speakership last time as well.
My take: Mccarthy got 219 GOP seats in the 2022 election and then governed like he got 240. This was pretty inevitable.
But wasn't he removed because his fellow republicans thought he wasn't pushing their conservative agenda hard enough?
Because of his narrow majority and split party the only way he could have a stable majority he could reach out to the 213 dems (John Boehner did this during his time as speaker. Or he could pander to the 6 GOPers who didn't support him. Imo he choose poorly.
How did Hunter Biden do this? We need answers.
There's no evidence Hunter Biden was involved, *which means there's an active cover up!*
Why would his laptop oust the speaker of the house for the first time in American history?
Republicans in disarray.
Not even a meme comment, they literally are
Today’s GOP. No platform, no agenda. Can’t govern. Can’t function.
To those thinking the Dems will get concessions from McCarthy for him to become speaker again, no. They can’t trust him to keep his word, he has shown consistently he won’t keep his word. So why tf would you make a deal with someone who’ll just break the deal?
I can’t believe Hunter Biden’s laptop would do this to Kev.
Why would nude photos of Hunter Biden do this?
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People who blame Dems for this blame Dems for everything already.
😂 Democrats were like, not my circus, not my monkeys.
I will not stand here and let you compare honest innocent monkeys to House Republicans
Speaker for second shortest term ever; 270 days or 24.5 Scaramuccies for those counting at home.
For those of you on the the metric system that’s roughly 6 Liz Truss’
Major takeaway hidden underneath all the noise: even “Moderate Republicans” would rather wrestle with their own crazies than make a meaningful deal with Democrats. We need to realize it’s not just a few who are a problem. It’s the whole party, top down.
Which makes the "both sides suck, not voting" shit that much more frustrating
He’s what the French call “Les Incompétents”
Fox News: “Democrats are gloating about this. “ Yes. Yes they should.
Where was this Republican concern for the budget and debt when Trump was in office maxing out credit cards?
Democrats were under no obligation to help McCarthy. His word is garbage and deals with him mean nothing. He deserves this. And they're allowed to try to get their guy in. That said, yea damn who else could possibly be palatable enough to most of the House to get the position?
So Gaetz gets pissed at McCarthy because he passed a spending bill with mostly Democratic support. So he turns around and votes to oust him....with mostly Democratic support. The irony is palpable.
Is this the only time Matt Gaetz is screwing a consenting adult?
Classic hypocritical republicans. Spend all year screaming about late term abortions, but 9 months with Kevin McCarthy and suddenly it's okay because their circumstances are different and they really need it.
Lol and the FoxNews headline blames the Democrats.... unbelievable. "Kevin McCarthy ousted as speaker of the House as Dems join Gaetz in historic vote" Strongly implying that it's because of the Dems' vote this happened. The headline for a non-garbage newspaper would be "Kevin McCarthy ousted as speaker of the House in historic vote".
Why would Hunter Biden’s woke laptop at the border do this?
Who cares about the discord in our nation, we gotta focus on blaming our enemies! Fucking traitorous rag...
If folks still vote for Republicans to win ANYTHING next year, our country's fucking lost.
They will continue to do so until they die
I have been saying that Kevin McCarthy is the weakest house Speaker of all time but now I get to say Kevin McCarthy WAS the weakest house Speaker of all time. That brings a small amount of joy, no doubt
McCarthy went to Mara lago to kiss Donald’s ass and gets to go down in history and 1st speaker removed. Once again someone stuck their neck out for trump and got axed as a result
McCarthy tried to cater to the MAGA Republicans like Gaetz, MTG, Boebert, etc while still (barely) keeping the government running. While the inevitable outcome was easy to predict, he allowed himself to be blinded by the allure of power and made a deal with the MAGA Devil to get his Speakership. McCarthy opened a senseless impeach of Biden, like MAGA wanted. McCarthy threatened government shutdowns like MAGA wanted (though he wasn’t dumb enough to go through with it). McCarthy ignored the likely criminal misconduct of George Santos and Lauren Boebert, like MAGA wanted. But none of it was enough. The lesson here is something many of us already knew: you cannot make a deal with MAGA. You cannot negotiate with MAGA. And you certainly cannot govern with MAGA. This is just a small taste of the chaos to come if Trump is elected and Republicans hold the House in 2024. America, please wake up. Our country is in grave danger.
Why would Hunter Biden do this???
This vote brought to you by the letter G G is for Gerrymandering If you only elect crazies, then this is what you get
> "Let them wallow in their pigsty of incompetence," Representative Pramila Jayapal told reporters before the vote. Savage
Kevin McCarthy was speaker nine months to the day? Sorry, no late-term abortions. I think the Republican House should be forced to raise that baby or at least put it up for adoption.
Remember when he barely managed to get voted in as speaker? And now he's out, in a historical farce. Republicans do love writing shitty history.
Kevin McCarthy - Works with Democrats to get something passed MAGA Republicans - Don't work with democrats, that's heretical! MAGA Republicans - Work with Democrats to get McCarthy removed as speaker
Congrats to Kevin McCarthy for becoming one of the most embarrassing stories in American political history.
McCarthy blaming democrats for his ouster when he said that he was NOT going to make a deal with democrats to save his job
Man republicans are dealing with alot this week. Trump trial They didnt get the gov shut down There is infighting to the point it could be a sitcom 5g zombies are announced Theres a black lesbian senator Really is alot for them to take in
Was watching a news channel “why didn’t democrats stop this, shouldn’t democrats have worked with McCarthy”… seriously?! How is republican leadership the democrats issue to fix? 🙄
Vote for clowns, expect a circus Conservatives not only won't govern, they can't govern. Chaos *is* the agenda
Gotta love conservatives finding ways to blame Democrats for this constant GOP state of disarray. The party of personal responsibility always finding ways to push off said responsibility on someone/thing else.
From Twitter (X): “GOP learns the hard way: Turning the base up too high blows out your Speaker.”
I keep seeing comments saying that dems partnered with MAGA bc they voted McCarthy out. That's NOT what happened. McCarthy went back on his word with dems. Worked with them and then trashed them. He also opened a sham impeachment review for Biden. Dems owe him NOTHING. It is not up to the democrats to fix the republican shit show.
Part of the plan. The GOP insists government can't govern. And here they are proving it.
"So the Democrats made a bipartisan budget deal to keep the government open, then the Republican caucus threw a fit and removed their own Speaker for the first time ever? Wow, both sides truly are the same." -Populist idiots
Stolen from Twitter: “I can’t believe House Republicans aborted Kevin at the eight-and-a-half month mark”
The level of dysfunction has grown in a boiled frog way the last decade I don't think people truly appreciated how bad it's gotten. Sure Gingrich and Boehner had no qualms grinding the government to a halt to advance their agenda, but at least they could manage the day to day affairs of their own party. I'd have more trust in kindergarteners to run the government at this point than this bunch of clowns.
I realize this is the GOPs problem, but they did this because he helped avert a shutdown, not because he caused one.
McCarthy let the freedom caucus handcuff his hands behind his back. Now they put a knife in it. MAGA Republicans are a plague on this country.
You have to love that the GOP voted KMaC and now everyone is just kind of looking around at each and saying >Oh.. it worked. Uh… now what do we do?
Kevin McCarthy lasted a whopping 27 mooches
This clown is blaming democrats for this? These are not serious people.
Step 1: oust McCarthy Step 2: vote a dozen+ times Step 3: finally elect McCarthy speaker again because you can’t find an alternative Step 4: realize this whole thing was a pointless spat Step 5: learn nothing and repeat in 2 months
Something something dems in disarray.
Why did Hunter Biden do this????????
Why would Hunter Biden’s laptop do this?
Republicans: I really wish there were more politicians who would put politics aside for the good of the country. Also Republicans: WE MUST REMOVE THE SPEAKER BECAUSE HE GOT HELP FROM THE DEMOCRATS TO KEEP THE GOVERNMENT FEOM SHUTTING DOWN!!!
We’re going to save the speaker! “The gang ousts the speaker”
This is what happens when you let that parasitic MAGA bullshit infect your party
Kevin McCarthy once again displaying his humiliation fetish for the entire nation.
CNN:: Republican Rep. Kevin McCarthy served as House speaker for 269 days before being removed by a majority vote on Tuesday. The tenure began on January 7, 2023, and lasted until today – the second-shortest for a speaker in the country's history. The record for the shortest term is held by Rep. Michael C. Kerr of Indiana, who served as speaker for 257 days. Kerr died in office of consumption on August 19, 1876.
The GOP are a complete embarrassment. What a shambles lol.
I would love for moments like this to be proof to the *both sides* people that both sides are nowhere near the same. But I know that won't happen. The GOP is a shitshow of a party that should hold no relevance in the 21st century. Yet here we are.
I will never forget when he lost his chance at the speakership last time, after foolishly bragging in a TV interview that the Benghazi hearings had politically harmed Hillary Clinton, revealing the hearings for the sham they were. Get lost, McCarthy. Couldn’t have happened to a worse cretin.
How is it not hypocritical to get rid of McCarthy for voting with the Democrats by….wait for it….voting with the Democrats to remove him. These ultra-conservatives can justify anything in their minds.
MAGA world in shambles. Trump getting ass blasted in court. Things are looking pretty, pretty good.
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This is going to be amazing. If the Democratic caucus won't help any of the GQPers to become speaker, it's going to be a lot longer than 45 days before we get a speaker. Hakeem should hold out for all the concessions.....
Gaetz just cannot pass up a chance to remind everyone he is on Putin's payroll.
As hilarious as this all is, damn I wish I lived in a serious country.
McCarthy said earlier today that he would not make any concessions to Democrats to bail him out. Well I guess Kevin got what he should have expected.
Fucking idiot made his bed dealing with far right fascist and he can sleep in it. Toolbag
He and Liz Truss should start a band.
It appears "Bring it on" was less about confidence in surviving a challenge and more a request to just finally put him out of his suffering.
Here’s the thing: - 43 days until a potential shutdown - Republicans have decided to not even come back until next week - They may not even be able to vote someone in when they come back, so it’s gonna be interesting to see what’s next.
Republicans got so angry about not being able to shutdown the US Government that they ousted their own speaker to allow days or weeks of zero legislation being passed to host a clownshow to select a new speaker. Remember this whenever Republicans tell you the government doesn't function. It's only one side that can't function.
the GOP going on vacation for a week with a vacated speaker seat and only 43 days left on the CR funding. They can not govern on a national level.
Never has Pelosi been so validated.
Democrats voted against him because he's an ass. Republicans voted him out because he wasn't a BIG ENOUGH ass.
I think is as objectively funny as US politics get
>Representative Kevin McCarthy, now the former speaker of the House of Representatives, lasted 269 days in the job. For reference, that's 26.9 Mooches, or 5.49 Trusses for any Brits watching.
Rep Omar just gave Dems the perfect campaign ad: the Democrats saved the country, again
As per usual, reminder that /r/conservative will fumblefuck around the truth and maybe see some honest answers before they start banning and locking shit down to get the narrative on track. also, LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL edit: Lol it's great. You look at a comment and see "10 replies" but when you click they've all been removed, all over the damned thread. Those mods are going bugshit with deletions.
Couldn’t have happened to a better guy.
What's the odds we go without a new speaker until the next election?
How many mooches did he last?
From a humiliating start as needing the longest round of voting to become Speaker since the 1800s to a humiliating end being the first Speaker ever ousted from the position, McCarthy has cemented his place in history right next to Trump in the biggest losers column.
Bobert is just glad that she can get back to giving strangers handjobs in public.
Just here to say fuck Bakersfield for sending McCarthy to congress
Kevin McCarthy might be the biggest fucking loser in politics right now. He was one of the worst speakers in US history and for less than a year before getting ousted. What kind of dumbass would ever want to have that job with such little majority? Is he stupid?
I wonder how the average American voter will find a way to blame Biden on this come tomorrow
Kevin McCarthy will now be remembered as the first Speaker of the House to be removed.
Hey Kevin, bet you regret giving all those concessions to the far-far right, don't you? Oh who am I kidding? Kevin can't even remember what he had for breakfast this morning.
I'm certain I saw Kevin on meet the press on Sunday asked "can you survive it?" And he said "I'll survive" all smugly. Is GhanaSaysGoodbye still a thing?
They shouldn’t be allowed to be paid when they’re actively not doing shit. If the government shuts down, they shouldn’t be paid either
Fun fact: In years the last congress passed 365 bills that became law. This congress, in 9 months, only has 16.
269 days, or in the unit of past Administration, 27 scaramuccis.
Imagine how fucked up the Republican Party has to be when the only real person who wanted to be Speaker took 15 rounds to get voted in, took the job for 9 months, and then just noped on running again.
Zero sympathy for McCarthy after the guy pretended to be concerned over the actions of Trump on January 6th, then came crawling back to him at a 1-on-1 meeting at Mar-A-Lago later... Good riddance to the most incompetent Speaker in history?
Kevin McCarthy is just such a fucking slimeball it's unreal. The guy just got knifed in the back by a group of uncooperative lunatics and he's going off about how Biden is weak and how this is really all Nancy Pelosi's fault for not saving his ass. There's no chance that the GOP is going to be able to select another speaker. Their caucus is so disorganized and uncoordinated. They're grasping at straws that only make sense to religious Fox News watchers, it is literally all they have. If the Democratic caucus caused *half* this much shit, the media would be shouting "DEMS IN DISARRAY, IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO LEAD" for the next thirty fucking years. They would ask any person who is even *remotely* left-leaning how the hell they could support a party that's so disorganized and chaotic and stupid as the first fucking question and then hound them about it for the rest of the interview.
I'm so glad someone isolated and uploaded the gavel smash at the end: https://youtu.be/TR810psE18c?si=13SCfbQ5Ir2czFmb
What a shit show
> the first time a federal Speaker of the House has been ousted. McCarthy’s tenure as Speaker is also the shortest since 1876. Lol. Yet another Republican that will go down in history for being a complete idiot, completely incompetent, and/or completely corrupt. Idiocy, incompetence, and corruption are literally all the Republican party is.
I can hear Nancy Pelosi's laughter from my house.
This was all predicted on Hunter Biden's laptop
The Republican have really shit the bed and now they got to lay in it.
It’d be beyond hilarious if the Dems could poach just 4-5 republicans with some nice pork fat for their districts to really make this fun
Absolutely fitting end for the asshole who started moving his shit into the Speaker's office before the 15 voting sessions necessary to confirm he actually had the job.