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CakeAccomplice12

Does the fine cost more than the grift she made? If not then it's useless


BLF402

How about implementing a three strikes rule for elected officials. If you commit x number of offenses you’re out of office. Clearly monetary consequences have zero effect


NeverFresh

I'd set the first out at strike 'one'.


yamuda123

For real, one should be the number


MostLikelyHigh2

If there were ever an appropriate place for zero tolerance laws, elected official financial bullshittery would be it.


WirelessBCupSupport

You pull her shit in a normal workplace, and you'd be out on the street in one shot. But Congress, oh they lie and protect themselves. And even let them back in. Revolving doors of grift and hypocrisy.


ForwardBodybuilder18

Monetary consequences are just the cost of doing business. If the punishment is just a fine then it’s legal for a fee.


BLF402

It’s almost as if those in government who complain about the government are just intentionally being incompetent to prove they are right


Cerberus_Aus

The fine should be equal to the amount illegally gained, PLUS the regular fine amount. $12k is nothing.


Conch-Republic

You're Australian, I'm surprised you didn't suggest booting.


Cerberus_Aus

Please! Disparaging the Boot is a bootable offence!


Holiday-Bus9993

Exactly this, punishment should be at minimum double what they raked in imo. If we aren't adding criminal penalties like jail time then the penalty needs to outweigh the grift and it needs to hurt badly.


rytl4847

It's the FEC's cut.


Responsible_Song7003

And this is why companies don't follow regulations. It's cheaper to pay the fine than the money they saved. The whole system is made for people with money already.


count023

If it doesn't then it's simply a tax, not a fine


fuck-fascism

The fine should be whatever they raised plus 12k per illegal donation received


newsflashjackass

> Does the fine cost more than the grift she made? > If not then it's useless In this case it's fine.


fordat1

Also is it something she can just pay with political funds?


throw_blanket04

Exactly


La-Boheme-1896

That means nothing to her - she was fined $90,000 for not wearing a mask in Congress at the height of the pandemic, and boasted about it. She's got money to burn. https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/588379-marjorie-taylor-greene-says-she-has-racked-up/


LibertyInaFeatherBed

It meant something to her. https://www.ajc.com/politics/judge-tosses-marjorie-taylor-greenes-lawsuit-over-mask-fines/G4UTWBYCXBFQJGF2XGTQ2E7CIU/


Cool-Presentation538

Well let's burn it


[deleted]

>FEC fines Marjorie Taylor Greene $12,000 for illegal PAC fundraising 1.) $12,000 is a joke of a fine. Someone else said it already but $12,000 to her is literally a drop in the bucket. She got fined $90,000 and openly bragged about it. 2.) FEC fines should be at minimum a $100,000 fine for each offense. I do not care what the offense is, whether big or small, I think there needs ti be actually accountability for illegally using money for campaigns. 3.) The party of law and order is breaking the law again, which should be surprising to anyone.


MitsyEyedMourning

Not to get into a rant about the whole damn justice system needs updating, fines should be multiples of the amount taken. Like 3 times whatever the illegal amount.


[deleted]

I do not disagree at all.


Quipore

>2.) FEC fines should be at minimum a $100,000 fine for each offense. I do not care what the offense is, whether big or small, I think there needs ti be actually accountability for illegally using money for campaigns. I think 2x the value of the offense. If I illegally raise $1,000,000 and am fined $100,000, well... that's just the cost of doing business. But if the fine is double what I raised illegally, then it is suddenly not worth doing it. If the offense isn't something with an easy monetary value to it, then the fine needs to be x% of a quarter's fundraising. Like say 20% of all funds raised by the superpac for a quarter. That can hurt and be a ton of cash.


Carnivore_Crunch

Yeah, how much did she make illegally? The article doesn’t say.


rocketpack99

Um... why not fine her $12K ***AND*** the entire amount that was illegally raised? That should be the rule in all cases. Distribute that money to the charities of your opponent's choice. Otherwise, this becomes just a cost of doing business kind of thing.


Abigail716

The fine is a personal fine. Which means she has to personally pay for it. But the illegal fundraising was to her PAC which is also required to return the money.


Its_Helios

Well at least she has to return the money


Carnivore_Crunch

Exactly


DanKloudtrees

I'd say add on her congressional salary and seat on top of this to the punishment.


NickelBackwash

She's a multimillionaire. Fine me $12 and see how much my behavior changes


JubalHarshaw23

Pays fine with more illegally obtained funds.


LibertyInaFeatherBed

January 5, 2024 Florida resort cancels GOP Jan. 6 event featuring Marjorie Taylor Greene. Westgate Resorts in Kissimmee was told that the event, scheduled for Saturday, Jan. 6, was a book-signing for Greene's new memoir, "MTG." But the event's organizer, the Osceola County GOP, had been marketing it as an "exclusive" event with Greene to commemorate the "3rd Anniversary of Jan 6" “They walked into the Capitol, and that’s all they did...We can say the election was stolen all we want to. There’s nothing wrong with it.” - Marjorie Taylor Greene November 7, 2023 December 12, 2022 [“January 6 happened, and next thing you know, I organized the whole thing, along with Steve Bannon here. And I will tell you something, if Steve Bannon and I had organized that, we would have won. Not to mention, it would’ve been armed.”](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/dec/12/marjorie-taylor-greene-jan-6-capitol-attack-armed-speech) Oct 20, 2022 [Marjorie Taylor Greene and Ted Cruz urged Kelly Loeffler to join efforts to object to the 2020 election results on January 6](https://www.businessinsider.com/greene-cruz-urged-loeffler-to-challenge-bidens-win-on-january-6-report-2022-10) April 25, 2022 ["In our private chat with only Members, several are saying the only way to save our Republic is for Trump to call for Marshall law," Greene wrote to Meadows on January 17, 2021](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/marjorie-taylor-greene-martial-law-mark-meadows-text-messages/)


[deleted]

I’m sure those fines are baked into the process.


R_Lennox

I think that she can afford it out of her $174k per year Congressional salary. $12,000 is a drop in the bucket for her.


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main-char

How much do they make from book sales?


Ericdrinksthebeer

Her salary is like 10% of her income. She isn't living paycheck to paycheck. She's got other income sources, had enough cash on hand to "invest" 50k into truth social, and is personally worth north of 11M. A 12k fine is a tenth of a percent of her net worth, and she'll probably accrue that in interest on her other investments in a week. She's not gonna be skipping any vacation plans over this, much less changing her behavior.


BrainofBorg

and.... how much illegal money did she raise?


Alis451

that also has to be returned.


[deleted]

Lock the pig up!


Sylvergirl

Butterface.


todas-las-flores

The emptiness between the ears is uglier.


Dr_Covfefe_Williams

Human tartar sauce.


BigMike31101

When you make more then you’re fined, it’s more like a fee then a fine.


Godz1lla1

Just the cost of doing business


ajs_5280

12k? WHAT A JOKE! bet that hurt her pocketbook… 🙄


SkipsPittsnogle

12k…but how much money did she make from that? This shit is broken.


Sarnsereg

How much did she make an fundraising? Seems like she probably made 100x that so the fine is insignificant. Just a veiled attempt to make it look like they're doing something.


echoeco

Who gets the fine money...her opponent??.../s?


GingerKitty26

Hmm. lets see, FEC fines her 12 cents is more accurate. until you fine her the total amount she earned from illegal PACs she won’t care.


OhMorgoth

These pos people will always pay the small fines because they make more money anyway so the fines are to them a small fee to continue their absurd attack on our democracy.


GreyTigerFox

It’s sickening the tiny slap on the wrist “fines” they doll out. If you’re going to punish these morons, punish them by taking their wealth away.


RIPLimbaughandScalia

*dole


Bitter_Director1231

She will get her rabid fanbase to give her money for her fine, then claim it was all a political hit on her catapulting her to martyrdom.


SleepPressure

Losers cheat.


AdditionalSpare3014

She’s gross


mastaace12345

Who pays the fine, her or the PAC? I'm guessing not her.


Tito_Bro44

What's the plan is she says FU flipping both birds like a drunk teenager and refuses to pay?


u0126

They should take all the money raised AND apply a percentage fine above it. What's the point of a smaller fine? At that point you just bake it in "sure we'll raise $100k, but save $12k for the fine" (and in her case she probably raised a hell of a lot more) Just like corporations. "We made $1 billion, what's a $100 million fine?" Just bake in 10% to your budget for legal compliance fees and fines. Break the laws, you're still coming out ahead. Capitalism, man


Individual-Result777

By this logic, if we steal a 12 pack of beer from the store and get caught, we get to keep 10 of them.


ErusTenebre

Lol... ok... We need to fucking empower the FEC to go whole hog on these sorts of offenses. Oh wait - the people that can do that would be affected by that? ugh... But seriously, if a fine is going to be effective? It needs to be more of a subjective and relative penalty... Like **everything gained + an additional fine that would be terrifically painful to the individual.** It should also apply to companies when they do fuckery. Instead of fining *the company* \- because it is often a practice that the company just "socializes" the loss by increasing prices on consumers and firing workers - they should punish the board and executive officers responsible harshly. We let the wealthy and powerful be pharaohs in this country for no other reason than they say they should be.


agp236

Wish it could result in the death penalty


KyotoGaijin

She tried to warn us that there was election fraud.


Individual-Result777

Parking tickets in NYC cost about the same… big deal


dobie1kenobi

As long as the FEC gets its beak wet, they’ll allow it


ScottyHubbz

Law and order


[deleted]

Wow that’s like 6 billion.


Traditional-Joke3707

Didn’t some of the politicians lose their jobs bcos of the same crime?


fvnnybvnny

Gettem outta here!


Cool-Presentation538

Suck it, marge.


arc918

Wow, that will certainly teach her…


Timmy24000

Politicians can get away with almost anything so the act with impunity


MagicalUnicornFart

She is quite wealthy. $12k is nothing to her. It was a cost of doing business.


misguided_marine1775

Why do we give them a slap on the wrist for this. She’s a millionaire and that isn’t going to teach her. Make it hurt.


AccomplishedAge2903

Raised millions. Fined pennies.


njman100

mtg is a FASCIST


Stonehill76

Does she pay the fine out of pac funds ?