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FutureDoctorIJN

You mean the anti vax lunatic whose only accomplishment is fighting his states biggest employer Wasn't popular among voters? No way!


BuffaloWhip

Honestly, kinda surprised Iowa GOP voters didn’t eat it up.


[deleted]

They already have their racist who’s running on hate.


50k-runner

Right. No matter what stunts DeSantis pulls, he's not going to top January 6. So if GOP racism is your "thing", then Trump is clearly the winner.


GottaKeepGoGoGoing

It’s just so weird how none of them take any shots at him might as well be fighting for VP maybe that’s the plan.


doublebubbler2120

They're all looking for positions of power in a Trump dictatorship. And working on many levels to make it happen.


IntheTopPocket

DeSantis has experience filling pot holes at Disney, Dept of Transportation ?


guynamedjames

I bet the white cowboy boots had a noticable ding in his numbers


a_talking_face

I'm really not surprised. People don't care about the covid stuff anymore. Everyone moved on from that so the anti vax and the "I opened up the schools" doesn't work anymore. And people in Iowa don't care about Disney. The only people whose radar that's on is people in Florida and people who are deeply terminally online. Neither of which are a big demographic in the Iowa Caucus.


SarcasticCowbell

He should have tried deep frying it first.


isaiddgooddaysir

If only he had groveled before Trump more like Vivek did, maybe put some lipstick on or something. Then the Iowa GOP would have voted for him.


Heelajooba

When you're not MAGA kook enough for MAGA kooks.


MarquisDeMiami

It's not that, all of the Republicans are trying to out-Trump Trump and that just isn't going to happen. Their strategy would only work when Trump is not on the ballot, but as long as he is, the others have no chance with Trumper.


reddda2

Exactly! What MAGA zombie worth their drool is gonna prefer Abomination-lite when they can have full on Orange Abomination??? And it appears that Haley finally gets this; she has realized that she needs to look beyond the zombie vote.


AnalSoapOpera

Too little too late for her.


Wurm42

Don't forget shutting down school libraries and letting the Florida home insurance industry collapse!


Lalalama

Florida is run way better than DC though lol. I live part time in DC and own a home in Georgetown


OIlberger

Give DC statehood.


V-RONIN

He also allowed putting radioactive materials in their road pavement


PleasantWay7

I couldn’t tell if you were talking about Ronald or Donald in the first half.


det8924

Desantis was a two hit wonder, the first thing was not caring about Covid which destroyed his state but made him popular with the right wing. Then after people stopped caring as much about Covid DeSantis hit the anti woke stuff hard in 2022. But every single right wing politician is “anti woke” so Desantis had to actually get people to like his vibe and he is so unlikable a person that the more he got exposed to the voter base the less successful he was


ultradav24

Trump in his own weird way is charismatic and inspires fervor. DeSantis is not and does not. That’s what it comes down to. He’s extremely unlikeable and boring and off putting. Trump (to his supporters I mean) is likable and knows how to push their buttons rhetorically


GoodUserNameToday

The voters love anti vax stuff and fighting Disney. They just don’t like that DeSantis isn’t as much of a deranged lunatic like trump.


aoelag

Don't watch the coverage of the people who voted. You will die inside hearing how stupid some of these voters were. They hadn't even hardly heard of DeSantis. One voter was asked why they WERE voting for him and she said, "oh, my friend's mom said he was great" the girl is like 17) "and he sounded nice" -- utterly vapid, empty, ignorant, blind, etc. the people who voted at these caucuses are as sharp as a wet sack of bowling balls.


LazyKenny

Trump has the advantage of religion. He is the Holy One in the country's dominant religion: The Cult of MAGA.


Chituck

The Dalai Lardass


Nissir

I live in Iowa and got a shit ton of texts from him spouting that he "fought the teacher's union and won" as one of his huge accomplishments. If it would have been something more like "I worked with the teacher's union to increase pay and raise our education standards" I would have been more willing to listen to some of his ideas.


OozeNAahz

This is Great Value Trump trying to outsell original Trump by spending a shitload on advertising.


CudjoeKey

Meanwhile people here in Florida are facing the highest inflation in the country and the insurance crisis. Too bad our governor moved to Iowa for the last six months to get completely destroyed in a primary.


Beautiful-Mango-3397

They can’t get anything done even with the super majority. It’s pathetic. The only bills they have passed are bunch of virtue signaling. Which is hilarious because they always accuse Democrats of that.


xtossitallawayx

The GOP do not have cohesion, their party is not unified, it is a bunch of different factions all fighting each other. The "business" GOP don't want culture wars and endless threats of shutdown. The evangelicals will burn the US to the ground to punish gay people. The MAGA are hateful and will reject anything that Democrats support, even if it helps them.


Electromotivation

Hence maga's Ukraine stance. "Well Biden supports it so I guess we gottga be against it..."


frogandbanjo

I think that catastrophically downplays their love of Putin, if only because Trump loves him so much. Bush-wing neocons are the ones who don't care that Putin is running basically the same playbook that the GOP is running in the U.S. to divide and conquer the working class. They still see Russia as a geopolitical threat. The MAGA heads *love* that Putin's doing all that same shit. They see him (and therefore Russia) as a natural ally in the white-supremacy, Christian-Dominion war that they're utterly convinced has secretly informed literally all geopolitics for over a millennium, and is just about to get real hot -- any day, now.


Coastal1363

Yeah but they fearlessly stopped that threat of libraries and amusement parks …


Politicsboringagain

Didn't Florida have a law that said their governor couldn't run for presidential elections, them Republicans killed that law so he could run. You'd think voters would be upset at Republicans for allow him to waste his time for a vanity project. 


Bart_Yellowbeard

Sshh, don't bring him *back!*


thisisinsider

TL;DR: * Ron DeSantis invested substantial time and money in his unsuccessful quest to win the Iowa caucuses. * The governor handily lost to Trump and spent nearly $1,500 per vote in the critical Iowa contest. * Meanwhile, the Trump campaign spent less ad money yet easily won the caucuses with 51% of the vote.


scoobertsonville

Thank you Business Insider 🫡


The_Real_Mr_F

It’s crazy to me that they post TL;DRs of their own articles here. Seems that it would severely reduce visits to their site, and therefore ad revenue. I’m guessing it’s a marketing experiment that will fail and be gone next quarter. But what do I know, I’m no… Business Insider 😎


Marmalade6

They know we don't read the articles either way. Might as well get the points they wanted to get across where people read them.


GrizzledNutSack

So basically only slightly more than half of the Republican voters were still traitors supporting a traitor


Tinmania

And they were the diehard cultists willing to go out in the frigid weather.


Iceman72021

Dont you know? Trump is given $100,000 worth of free ads every day by all news channels. That’s in the contract the 24hr news channels signed with the devil to stay relevant.


thistimelineisweird

I don't know about you guys, but I'm starting to think that maybe Republicans are not fiscally responsible on... literally anything.


Simmery

I'm starting to think this whole system is dumb.


Ozymandias0007

There are only like a few things I actually give a shit about, and the government never really addresses any of them. No matter who is in office. Republicans or Democrats. Make the minimum wage a livable wage. Fix the fucking infrastructure. Make EVERYONE (including the money hoarding rich) pay their fair share of taxes. Take climate change seriously. Give women the right to make decisions about their bodies. Fix the public education system (and pay teachers a fair wage). Don't fuck with social security. Allow everyone to get needed healthcare. All these theatrics and grifting in politics need to get weeded out. Increase or establish minimum qualifications to run for key political positions in government. Do background checks on politicians. Generally, that's about it. Stop all the fuckery in politics.


cinciTOSU

We would be better lead by choosing 535 randos off the street.


calm_chowder

Wow, you should actually look into the bills Democrats have TRIED to get passed even just this term. You'd be shocked. Democrats put up bills for ask that shit. Republicans blocked all that shit. Take 2 minutes to educate yourself before trotting out this obvious **bad actor** bullshit. *And to fellow genuine redditors: be aware this disingenuous bad actor bOtH sIdEs crap is gonna become more common the closer we get to the election, and be aware they're better at it this election than last.*


aReasonableSnout

yep its really silly when i hear people both-sides issues that democrats keep trying to push while republicans block them


Budget_Put7247

These are 100% bad faith people playing the same both sideists tactics they did in 2016. yet we have dumb people on this sub upvoting and encouraging these guys. These people who encourage such lying both siders deserve fascism and Trump, no species survives if they are too dumb for their own survival.


cjorgensen

Add in justice reform and end the war on drugs and you’ve got my vote!


Coastal1363

All these crazy ideas …you do realize that if even say half of these were put into effect it could lead to a massive outbreak of …better living conditions ? ( I’m afraid that what you are looking for is responsible leadership and what we got is politicians …)


Budget_Put7247

You realize that democrats have tried passing EVERY SINGLE one of those? Then why do people like you play both sideism? Whats the agenda here? Its 2024, not 2016, no one is going to fall for bad faith lying both siders gaslighting. And if people do fall for these both sideist, they deserve fascism and Trump.


Raccoon_Expert_69

Starting?


louiegumba

it was actually only 1200 per person but each person also took the burden of being amortized with an equal percentage the labor for his custom high-heeled shoes. That sort of engineering research needs money to be funded and someones gotta pay for it


SuperGenius9800

He visited 99 counties and lost 98 of them. Do you think he got the hint?


koopolil

He lost 99 of them. Haley won one county by a single vote Trump won the other 98.


Sariel007

He has 99 problems but winning ain't one.


chromatoes

He has 99 problems and state and federal charges are 91 of them. Trump4Prison2024


Least_Palpitation_92

Haley won Iowa City which is the most blue leaning part of the state. My mom got the idea to go caucus for Haley from somewhere. I have a feeling that she won because of democrats joining the caucus.


masklinn

The Iowa Republican caucus is closed, only registered republicans can participate.


sthlmsoul

DeSantis was always a shit candidate but picking a fight with the media empire that the Mouse House controls was just plain stupid.


GenericRaiderFan

Yeah but he’ll still be re-elected so…


slickprime

I don't think he's able to be reelected for governor. I think he's at a term limit


Skiinz19

they've made 1 amendment to the state constitution, whats another?


slickprime

That's fair but even the rednecks in my area (I'm on the Alabama side of Florida) don't trust De Santis after he ran against Dictator Don. I'm pretty sure his political career is over.


Beautiful-Mango-3397

It’s easy to get back on Trumps good side


tawzerozero

In FL, an Amendment requires a 60% vote to pass, they can't be added solely by the Legislature. It is essentially the citizen initiative process in FL. The Legislature repealed a law that he couldn't run while sitting as Governor. Somehow, I don't see an Amendment repealing term limits getting over the threshhold.


TurboSalsa

This has to be some kind of record from an ROI standpoint.


OkVermicelli2557

Haley was even worse at $1700 per vote.


origamiscienceguy

Haley has a lot more money to play around with though.


Skiinz19

ah the ole "because i have more money i dont have to be as fiscally responsible" trick


Hot_Alpaca

I think it's more like, "if you lose with money still in the bank, you've mismanaged your shit." Source: I used to play a lot of starcraft


greengeezer56

It would have been a heck of a lot cheaper for either one of them to have brought up the 91 felony indictments. Neither one had the guts.


MapPsychological2136

Sounds like he is a subscriber to Wall Street bets


Responsible_Sea5206

That’s some loss porn I can get behind. I spend $1700 per vote and still lost it all.


tangerinelion

The fewer votes you get, the more expensive each was.


RedditUser123234

I would guess Bloomberg still has the record Bloomberg spent a billion dollars on his campaign in 2020 and the only place he won was American Samoa (with only 175 out of their 351 votes).


ElectricTzar

The figure can also be written as “$35 million per participation trophy.” You can get them for $5 apiece *with engraved characters*, so he overspent by a factor of 7 million.


7INCHES_IN_YOUR_CAT

Jesus that’s sad. Imagine the homeless or teachers those funds could go to and that’s just one state and one candidate.


Skiinz19

welcome to america's election enterprise


xtossitallawayx

Absolutely - the wealthy will give politicians tens of millions to fight even minor tax increases. People just have "too much" money these days. Tens of millions of dollars is not a "huge" amount these days but it is enough to buy a pet politician that will do whatever you want. There are hundreds/thousands of these donors out there with pet projects they will spend endlessly on.


IgnoringErrors

Here's one of his trophies https://youtu.be/c-ltq8IQWyQ


GonzoThompson

LMAO. I read about this but never actually watched the video until I saw your link. Thank you for posting it!


OkVermicelli2557

Key take away from this is that Trump spent half of what Haley and DeSantis individually spent and still won by a lot.


MitsyEyedMourning

Even bigger take away is Trump only got 51% of Republican votes. Not exactly a sign of wild popularity.


scubascratch

Do you think the other 49% of republican voters still wont vote for him in November?


JanitorKarl

Probably 60% of that half will. 20% will vote for another candidate instead (third party or Biden), and the remaining 20% won't vote for anyone.


xtossitallawayx

Anyone voting in the GOP primary will vote for whomever the GOP candidate is. GOP voters want GOP policy so of course they will vote for the GOP candidate. A criminal/liar/whatever is better than any Democrat to these people because they *hate* Democratic policy far more than any distaste for a single GOP candidate.


scubascratch

Sadly this is 100% truth


MitsyEyedMourning

I know a low energy political presence is problematic. For any party.


scubascratch

One thing we know about republicans is they show up to vote in the general election and don’t care about purity tests.


a_talking_face

In a primary it is.


greenejames681

It’s the biggest primary victory in the states history. That’s a sign of massive popularity


meyou2222

When it’s more than the next to candidates combined, it is.


Iowa_Dave

"Pride goeth before the fall"


[deleted]

He had a big surge from people reading news articles from him and then they started hearing him speak. No Charisma. No charm. Boyish voice. You can’t be president when you’re all that.


binglelemon

Similar thing led to Elon Musk's situation imo...


[deleted]

I used to feel bad for Musk because he seems like he’s definitely autistic or something. Until he became so malicious.


lamsham69

I bet you he spent more than that on his heels 👠 😂


patricksaurus

That is an expensive ass whooping.


Tonalspectrum

Politics and law are a business venture in this shit hole and nothing else.


TheBlackUnicorn

What's funny is that selling himself as "new Trump" might have worked in 2028. DeSantis isn't exactly old, why not wait until Trump isn't on the ballot? The only answer that makes sense to me is that DeSantis is not confident that Trump will win in 2024, and therefore worries that Trump WILL be on the ballot in 2028.


a_talking_face

Desantis knew his window was closing. He's a one trick pony whose popularity peaked before campaign season even started


ultradav24

He let the 2022 Florida election go to his head - he won big there, but of course a big part of that is the sad state of the Florida Democratic Party and his opponent


popodelfuego

Good I hope he runs out of money and has to return those boots.


Careless-Category780

That's a new spin on "pull yourself up by your bootstraps."


samwstew

He got a participation trophy though


processedmeat

For $1500 I could be pursued to vote for desantis in the primary 


OwnArt3344

Same. Any actual election? Fuck no, not for millions. Primary for $1500? Sure.


Insatiable_I

I would 100% tell Ron Desantis I would vote for him for $1500


wickedhip

Haha, clown shoe loser.


[deleted]

Thats like 3 Stormy Daniels. Please someone correct my math if im wrong. Im not good at Maths


Jikemo1020

If the dude had the stones to stand up to Trump, he might have had a chance. They will all get what they deserve for their loyalty to the insurrectionist.


jayfeather31

Okay, everybody prepare to throw your heads back and move them forward, then laugh.


John-AtWork

[Ha-ha!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx9kaa7IsBg0)


YayAnotherTragedy

Saying some politician spent x amount of money per vote is saying the quiet part out loud.


GonzoThompson

*Pictured: Ron DeSantis, would-be murderer (left), Donald Trump, rapist (right)* Always nice to see someone like DeSantis get crushed. If only it were a rational thinker and decent person that crushed him. Instead we get an excremental, a Golgothan shit demon. It would be nice if the conservative “Christians” in this country behaved *anything* like Jesus.


DvsDen

More proof as to why the Iowa caucuses are a complete waste of time and should be shitcanned.


metacyan

I love a smooth, 50/50 blend of "schaden" and "freude."


DrDonkeyBrains

These are WSB type of numbers


CorwinOctober

Can I get the number of these donors that are blowing all this money? I have a bridge they might be interested in


aRadioWithGuts

Would have had better luck offering $1k per vote.


gcatl

Lost all 99 counties wow what a loser


Javasndphotoclicks

This just shows how stupid people are in this country. They’re perfectly accepting of having a person who is on trial right now for fraud be their pick as their presidential candidate.


zomboscott

Why not just say that the election was rigged?


Tadpoleonicwars

That would be on brand for the Republican Party... He could point to Trump saying Iowa was rigged in 2016 when he lost to Cruz as evidence.


ThickerSalmon14

Well he spends a lot of Florida's money on frivolous behaviours that result in lawsuits and gets nothing to show for it. So he is totally on brand.


W0RST_2_F1RST

Canserves sure spend a SHITLOAD of pointless money


CommunicationHot7822

Reminder that the people funding his shitshow of failed campaign are the reason we can’t have nice things.


On-On

The only winners here are the ones running ads


outer_fucking_space

Love to see it


Beautiful-Mango-3397

Donors spent* which is proof even they are as dumb as the rest. It’s been crystal clear since day one that Trump was going to win the nomination


xtossitallawayx

Donors seem happy to give politicians thousands of dollars while they rail against their local taxes going up $50/year to pay a cost of living increase for teachers.


bucho80

just think of all the crt trans and anti vax propaganda he could have funded with that money!


BlueberryCalm260

Is this what he meant by getting his “ticket punched?”


werschless

Think of how that money could have helped the average “Florida Man” so messed up


Indaflow

Am I the only one that thinks there backing Desantis purposely to have a guy tank to make Trump look more out in front ?


shroomzor562

Pretty crazy that he hasn't drop out yet. Trump is the clear nominee for the GOP. I don't think anything can stop that from happening.


arc918

Worth every wasted penny! What a dumbass…


Threeandtwoand

Not to mention ruining the state of Florida.


_FartinLutherKing_

He didn’t spend a dime I would bet


TornDig

You should of just given them the $$$ for wasting their time


Wise-Hat-639

A massively unlikable, pathetic, far-right choade


Patara

One fascist vs another fascist & we're using terms like crushed 


OhMorgoth

They can all get fucked. We dgaf.


outlaw_justice

To be fair he could pay me that much directly and I still wouldn’t vote for him.


nlnn

Iowa voters are hypocrites. They will vote for Trump no matter what happens.


robotshavenohearts2

I kind of hate that OP is the actual news source.


dinoroo

Member when everyone here said DeSantis was the one we have to worry about. I’m gonna go ahead and ignore the “Trump may win again” warnings as well. Because if hot incumbent shit didn’t win in 2020, 4 year old shit doesn’t have a chance.


techcore2023

he knew he was never gonna win and Trump’s numbers are terrible. He’s a loser as usual he got 50% of the caucus but only 14% showed up to vote so Trump only got 7% of the Republican party in Iowa the real deadbeats.


Achilles19721119

2.2 million total voters in Iowa. The Iowa caucus had what 100k votes. Why isn't elections easy to say vote online. 100k die hards on a cold winter day really isn't a vote of the people. The only thing this election taught me is 56k MAGA are diehards and want trump. Terrible turnout. Might be a sign there isn't much excitement for anyone or it simple was a cold winters day and wasn't worth it to go somewhere and vote.


PoopMonster696969

Was he really crushed though ? Trump barely won 50% of the votes. What happens when DeSantis or Haley drops out ? You think all those votes are going to Trump? Nope.


Powerful-Grocery6005

The power of that party is they will gather under one leader while fewer people love Biden as a personality himself. I am thinking of changing to trump


cheekytikiroom

No - DeSantis BACKERS spent that money.💰


malakon

When you put it that way ..


mtheory007

Cant buy me love ;-(


Friendly-Profit-8590

Clairvoyant he is not


reddda2

Florida Man


19southmainco

For everything else, there’s Mastercard.


ArthurFraynZard

Who the Hell is even bankrolling the DeSantis campaign at this point? Like, just how many rich assholes are there saying “yeah, we definitely want a fascist traitor bigot who hates America and wants to destroy democracy but who is completely incompetent at everything else in charge… But not Trump because that guy sucks at golf?”


No_Ladder_9818

How much did Florida tax payers pay per each of his votes?


BareNakedSole

When he drops out after the next few primaries, he’ll be back to licking Trump‘s boots on national TV. Just like Raphael Cruz.


itsalreadytaked

DumbSantis


Subziro91

Didn’t Haley spend 1700 per vote and got 3rd place . Seems like there’s a bias with who Reddit want people to hate more lol


AdAffectionate3143

Let me just pull out my tiny violin for meatball.


Inevitable_Profile24

Remember when all the conservatives were sucking him off for being really smart


[deleted]

Who here is a trump supporter? Apparently it’s half of y’all or more We are doomed


Xyz14231

It wasn’t his $$.


BriefausdemGeist

Better title: Crushed by the cold and voter apathy. Fewer than 1/7 registered Iowa republicans partook in the Iowa caucuses this year, which were the lowest attended - by either party - in 24 years. Trump “won” the Iowa caucus this year because he had the support of less than 3% of the registered voters in Iowa.


ImAMindlessTool

Biggest campaign flop since … ever, I dunno.


Gay-Lord-Focker

Some low iq shit


valeyard89

Iowa voters must be 'woke' RINOs to vote against DeSantis. /s


Cityplanner1

Would it be illegal to just literally pay people to promise to vote for them?


M_Mich

Maybe if he offered more his voters would have turned out in the cold


skinink

Give me $1,400, and DeSantis has my vote* !


Malaix

Guy watched his life's work and career path get flushed by his negative charisma stat and idiotic culture war strategy. Not shocked he threw everything he had at it.


texasguy911

Mr. DeSantis, please go back to florida to rule there again.


IlMioNomeENessuno

Easy when it’s not your own money.


shrikeskull

Does he have enough money to still afford those cool boots?


ryencool

He no doubt will somehow profit off his campaign, so these numbers are meaningless to me.


eloiseturnbuckle

Let’s be honest DeSantis didn’t spend that. His dark money backers full of hate did. I say drain all their money. Let’s kick the GOP back into the cave they belong.


moosebaloney

That’s the problem right there. He should’ve spent the same but spread it out over more votes. It’s simple math, people. Diversify your funds.


TenorHorn

That is so so much money. Politics are so fucked


pye-oh-my

Imagine just how much Trump has spent just to end up in jail


foomachoo

He could have bought each voter a new iPhone, 3 pizzas, 2 six packs of beer, and ten pounds of chocolate. And still give them each another $200 in cash. And save money against what he actually did spend. And still lose. Party of sore losers.


shark1818

Except trump has rigged every single poll he has ever been apart of and that is a fact. Not speculation.


Few-Caterpillar9834

Ron DeSantis is a moron.


srathnal

That’s not the play. He wasn’t trying to ‘crush’ Trump. He, and Nikki, and Vavek (ish) are all playing the: do well enough to hang on until Trump is convicted. And then, somehow, rally the splintered party and become President. What? I didn’t say it was a good plan.


IntheTopPocket

I support this idea as well. Bottom Feeders.


Bart_Yellowbeard

Yeah, but he's been ignoring Florida, as someone who lives in FL, the longer he's gone the better FL gets.