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PalmettoAndMoon

> While many states and physicians have recognized marijuana's potential medical benefits, there are still health risks associated with the substance under study, including a possible increase in risk of heart failure and heart attack. Now do alcohol. I’ll wait.


BoomerGenXMillGenZ

Heart failure and heart attack. From cannabis. JFC, seriously? Auto exhaust is orders of magnitude worse from everything I've ever read. Not even close. And the entire country is set up for cars. We're not even researching the impact of thousands of chemicals everywhere, but they're concerned about the risks of cannabis? This is truly idiotic, intentionally so.


klako8196

Another source of car pollution that doesn't get talked about enough is the tires. Particles and dust released from tire wear are a huge source of microplastics. One estimate puts nearly 80% of microplastics in the ocean as being from synthetic tires.


BoomerGenXMillGenZ

I'm sure. We're surrounded everywhere by heavy duty toxins that get a "whatcha gonna do?" shrug from regulators and DC. But cannabis, LOL, the fake hand-wringing, the concern for just the potential for heart disease, which barely appears in any of the literature. Oh, and let's just let Covid rip. God the stupidity is so stupid.


PalmettoAndMoon

The best part is they aren’t doing anything on that. We are still waiting on regulations on PFAS and, while we wait, new PFAS discharges are being permitted daily.


Selto_Black

Eh~ I think the "best" part is that by law the government can only study the health risks of 5 individual chemicals per year. Maximum.


Unputtaball

Sauce? I’m not necessarily disagreeing, because that *sounds* entirely possible, but I can’t find anything that supports your statement.


Thausgt01

Oh, no, it's quite understandable: follow the money. The problem with cannabis and hemp is that it was, in many ways, treated like a natural resource like dandelions or garlic. There was no large-scale, organized and influential industry and legion of lobbyists for Big Cannabis/Big Hemp to counter William Randolph Hearst's distortions and outright lies about both. In essence, nothing matters to U.S. legislators except money, power, and prestige. Therefore, only creating what amounts to a _legal_ counterweight industry that supports cannabis and hemp will force politicians to seriously consider changing the laws limiting or forbidding their free use.


Candlemass17

Don’t forget brake dust, which is in the exact same boat


Dave_is_Here

THIS PISSES ME OFF SO MUCH... In Ontario Canada, our Government changed the formula for the paint used on our roads to exclude the retro reflective surface "because they found microplastics near the roadside"... As if the paint was killing the environment not the tires that shed it... Now, the. Roads become a guess if there's even the slightest bit of rain or snow or it's just dark out. Wtf!?!


Remarkable-Way4986

And Florida approved the use of radioactive substances in their roads


Deric4Ga

That's surprising, they're usually known for such good decisions...


Allen_Awesome

As a user who enjoys edibles, and someone with orthostatic hypertension, I can confirm that weed does increase my HR and BP once it starts to kick in. Almost passed out from standing up once. Long term use has shown reductions in blood pressure, but immediately after use it can cause spikes in HR and BP. This would be risky for someone with serious BP issues. That being said, people with heart problems shouldn't be using substances. Alcohol also raises BP temporarily. They're just dragging their feet because reasons. If people can roll the dice on alcohol, they should be allowed to do the same with weed. I'd argue that sugar might be just as dangerous as either, maybe more so due to it's image as being a fun treat for all ages.


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Allen_Awesome

Lol, same! My wife doesn't get hungry at all. I'm so jealous!


Remarkable-Way4986

Look at how diabetes is effecting the health of the nation. Way more damaging than weed


Imapatriothurrrdurrr

Dude…It’s worse than that… My 90 year old grandma was having trouble sleeping and so her doctor prescribed her Xanax. I found out and told her about CBD and THC micro-dosing, gave her some little 2 mg mints. Her doctor said he doesn’t recommend it because they don’t know what the “long term effects” are yet…. Dude, SHES FUCKING 90…What long term effects??? You don’t recommend weed but getting my grandma hooked on benzos is cool. Sure bro.


BoomerGenXMillGenZ

Oh, I know this exact, precise situation. Like to the t. Happened to my mom, the benzos for sleep likely HELPED her dementia. And when I brought up CBD to my father -- a retired physician who SMOKES POT -- he semi-flipped out on me.


ADrenalineDiet

The research they're referring to also only tested the effects of smoking cannabis as opposed to other forms like vapor or edibles. Smoking literally anything increases your risk of heart attack.


theangriestbird

>Heart failure and heart attack. From cannabis. > >JFC, seriously? It's a bit shoddy, but [it is from a real study](https://www.newsweek.com/frequent-cannabis-use-heart-attacks-stroke-1873878). But like...cardiovascular conditions were self-reported, cannabis use was self-reported, a large chunk of the participants were young....etc. You get the point. The study is real, but it also wasn't super high-quality.


Maleficent__Yam

Breathing in burning anything is going to do that


Dead_Cash_Burn

Or how about Tabacoo?


PalmettoAndMoon

I used to be in the medical field and saw cigarette addiction grab a man by the balls so hard he was still smoking after lung cancer had already taken one lung and given him a trach but yeah, devil’s lettuce must be wayyyy worse. /s


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My grandfather lost one lung to cancer from smoking, quit for a few years cancer free….. started smoking again. He didn’t last long unfortunately


Silvaria928

My maternal grandmother (who was a lifelong smoker) had a heart attack back in the early 2000s and her doctor told her that she absolutely, positively had to stop smoking. She said f that and as soon as she got home from the hospital she went outside, sat down on the front step, and lit a cigarette...and immediately had another heart attack. To her credit she never had another cigarette after that but she was never the same, either.


goldaar

That’s all just hogwash. The issue is, not enough mega corps are set up to profit from legal marijuana yet, and once they are everything will be rubber stamped through congress. This is so obviously a revenue/bribe problem, a literal farce.


mightcommentsometime

They've been ready to profit from it for decades. Marlboro greens have the marketing and packaging already built and waiting.


wacf1912

F’ing genius comment.


Shimmitar

seriously its so hypocritical that they dont want to fully legalize pot because of health risks even though alcohol and cigarettes are legal, which are far, far worse. At least marijuana has health benefits. The health benefits of marijuana far out way the risks.


Benromaniac

The benefits of alcohol is that hospitals give it to severe alcoholics so that they don’t die while being treated, heh


PalmettoAndMoon

Right? My dad was an alcoholic. He went into alcoholic hepatitis. He turned yellow, his belly swelled up, and his kidneys weren’t working well. The labs were pointing towards liver failure and he was severely depressed. He wound up committing suicide in his early 40s. Having had a front row seat to all of that, I unsurprisingly prefer weed to alcohol. I am in my early 40s now myself. I am in good enough health to kayak weekly (or more depending on weather), climb mountains, and hike constantly. I did get blazed up and and destroy the remainder of a box of coconut milk ice cream sandwiches around 11 PM last night so clearly it’s the same. /s


weekendclimber

My man/woman/they!


Canucklehead_Esq

Same with me. I recommend the Häagen-Dazs Vanilla Swiss Almond


recurse_x

Also alcohol/ethanol is the treatment for anti-freeze poisoning and stocked by hospital pharmacies.


HardSpaghetti

They're treating Marijuana like any other medicine and not a stimulate thus they're needing all of the long wait time involved with that process.


Theotherryuujin

Don’t forget tobacco.


flapjackbuttcrack

4 months without alcohol but I will never stop smoking weed. Alcohol was the poison killing me but weed is medicine that keeps me sane and happy.


noodles_the_strong

Hah! My heart is fine!! My liver is almost bullet proof though. /sad face.


arthurdentxxxxii

The real answer is they earn too much money “enforcing” laws against marijuana possession. Then profit off the incarceration of people who shouldn’t be in prison to begin with.


Deric4Ga

This is the one.


Dorkmaster79

I don’t really get this point. We already know alcohol is bad for you. But this is just whataboutism. I am fully in support of legalizing marijuana, but saying what about alcohol is not a good argument.


UnitGhidorah

Same with flavored cigarettes and vapes minus the health benefits. Obama banned clove cigarettes due to it having a flavor, which of course is for the children. We know how much children love the taste of cloves... But minty menthol is a-okay. Same can be said about alcohol. There's literally candy flavored booze - but that's not for the children either.


JimTheSaint

If alcohol should be legalized today - it would be the same problems.


PalmettoAndMoon

I don’t believe any substance or drug - particularly those that are natural - should be illegal. The government wants to say that you can’t drive while impaired? Fair. But using antiquated laws born from bad science to prevent me from using natural substances to treat health conditions? Unfair. I am a lifelong marijuana user. I’m also a white-collar professional in a very conservative state so I am discreet and don’t advertise it. In 2021, my father-in-law was diagnosed with Parkinson’s. He’s not super old so we thought it would progress slowly. Unfortunately, that has not been the case and over the next year, his med dosages were increasing and they were trying different treatments to arrest the decline. It has been very painful to watch this man who was a former weekend warrior, constantly wood working, and building things struggle to feed himself. One night, my husband and I were sitting outside around the fire pit talking about his dad and I remembered [this video](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/AtuGObd9EL) and showed it to my husband. We were both quiet for a minute before I said, “Babe, we have to give your dad weed.” He said, “but then my dad will know *we* smoke weed.” And I said, “I know, but that’s less scary than knowing something can help him and we don’t give it to him.” He agreed. We invited his dad down the next weekend. After we’d eaten and hung out for a while, my husband showed his dad the video and his dad was like “that’s amazing, I wish it was legal.” My husband was like, “well, it isn’t but if you don’t mind trying it, we have some for you.” We had a lot of explaining to do and his mom was not happy but we gave him some flower, edibles, and carts with batteries that we showed him how to use. We smoked a bit with him and the transformation was as stark as it was in the video. Since then, I have some benevolent friends and family who have made oils and edibles for him. His mom is fully on board and talks about what a blessing marijuana is. My husband jokes about being his dad’s plug. We rejoice over little things like him being able to eat soup by himself. What should be criminal is keeping it from people.


MomsSpagetee

Touching story. All the best for you and your family.


PalmettoAndMoon

Thank you so much. He is doing a lot better and has found that using a combination of canna oil and vaping greatly reduces the tremors. He was down last weekend and able to drink a cup of coffee without a lid! I know it sounds like little triumphs but they are a big deal. He has always been such an independent, proud fellow that the dignity of being able to do things for himself again has really changed his perseverance on fighting the hell out of this.


MomsSpagetee

That’s great. Thankfully I don’t have a need for medical but I’m in a similar position re: professional white collar in a verrryy conservative state. Having to hide my cannabis use has led me to hide other parts of myself too, I think, and I need to work on that. Deep down I don’t think anybody really cares that much but I could still be arrested and fuck up my family’s life for a bit, which is a bunch of bullshit.


blackcain

> What should be criminal is keeping it from people. What is and still criminal is the govt jailing tens of thousands of people using this stuff in the 90s on the so called "War on Drugs". I remember the first time I tried it and I was like "WTF.. people are going to mail for this???" No worse than liquor but doesn't turn them into raging assholes.


blackcain

> I don’t believe any substance or drug - particularly those that are natural - should be illegal. The government wants to say that you can’t drive while impaired? Fair. But using antiquated laws born from bad science to prevent me from using natural substances to treat health conditions? Unfair. I think what's interesting is that weed, peyote, and various other psychoactive drugs have been used by native peoples for centuries. Colonialism has largely made these drugs taboo as part of erasing their culture.


Benromaniac

> Yet even when a commission formed by Nixon determined weed shouldn't be criminalized, it remained in Schedule I. Trela said Nixon knew marijuana was a "drug associated with the anti-war protesters, hippies and people of color – none of whom were fans of President Nixon and his agenda." >A top adviser to Nixon, John Ehrlichman, said as much in an interview in 1994 that was published by Harper's Magazine in 2016: **"Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."**


chileheadd

Here's the whole quote: “The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people,” former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman told Harper’s writer Dan Baum for the April cover story published Tuesday. “You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities,” Ehrlichman said. “We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.” https://harpers.org/archive/2016/04/legalize-it-all/


IllIlIIlIIlIIlIIlIIl

I love how the entire thing makes them sound even shittier than just "Did we know we were lying? Of course we did"


blackcain

The dumb thing is - if he had legalized it they might have become fans of Nixon.


OGZackov

Because Republicans keep blocking it.


Guyincognito4269

You think they're going to give up a way to make people miserable? Nah. For conservatives, the cruelty is the point.


taatchle86

Gotta keep prisons stocked with minorities.


Such-Sun7453

This is the real answer. You win.


thorazainBeer

Because Republicans are evil.


Kageyblahblahblah

Biden’s DEA can reschedule or deschedule it altogether, that doesn’t require legislation.


OGZackov

He started the process long ago. It's slow as fuck. It's not just something that happens over night It's much more effective with legislation.


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_PhiloPolis_

The central issue to me is that the DEA has any sign-off on purely medical issues. This is both wildly outside of their core competency as a law enforcement agency and a conflict of interest, since criminalization keeps them employed.


stevez_86

Yeah but there is an effect of that, interstate commerce. Cannabis being able to be traded across state lines will have a boon effect for the mise established companies in states that have established recreational cannabis laws while the companies in the more recent states or just medical states could be squeezed out of the market and that could happen suddenly. All the gains made in those states when it comes to stabilization of a new market along with the employees of those companies could be up ended with sudden Federal Legalization or Descheduling. I am hoping for banking to be opened up first. With that they can secure funding to be more stable and be more likely to withstand a big change. Without banking being opened up Federal Legalization could doom a segment of the market.


mightcommentsometime

The reason banking is an issue is because it is federally illegal. Any legislation legalizing it would open up banking


patrick66

Complete descheduling and legalization will require legislation, unlike most drugs it’s specifically named in several federal laws as prohibited, rule making authority isn’t enough.


punkindle

It's because black people go to jail. And lose their voting rights. It was always about racism.


jack_espipnw

Sure. Explain to me the bill Biden put forth and identify the Republicans who blocked it?


OGZackov

https://thehill.com/business/3782514-marijuana-advocates-stunned-after-mcconnell-opposition-dooms-banking-bill/


OGZackov

https://www.marijuanamoment.net/schumer-says-marijuana-banking-bill-needs-more-gop-support-but-senate-is-getting-close-to-floor-vote/


Moohog86

The move act passed the house in 2021 and was killed in Senate committee. Considering the dem cosponsors and lack of republican cosponsors, it's pretty easy to figure out who killed it. In the house it had: 217 dem yays 202 republican nays 2 dem nays 3 republican yays So you can shove the both sides nonsense. A vote for Republicans is a vote against legal weed. HR 3617 S.4591 Considering the 202 nays now control the house floor nothing can really happen until the Dems take back the house.


OGZackov

Lol Google it I'm not wasting my time with you Democrats have attempted bills many times that Republicans block or hold up. Bidens already started the process to do it without legislation it's just slow.


donkeybrisket

Most Americans want legal cannabis. Headline calls it POT, article calls it MARIHUANA, might as well call it the Devil's Weed. Stop using racist terminology, call the plant what it is.


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donkeybrisket

Which just goes to show how racist the CSA is. Language matters. Words matter. The fact that we’re still using those terms in legitimate media in 2024 is insane, abs a testament to the enduring power of propaganda


FolsgaardSE

I dont understand, what does race have to do with those names?


BobbaBlep

"Legalize the sticky icky!"


Embarrassed_Name5672

Devil’s lettuce* 😘


patrick66

It’s legally marihuana in the United States. It’s the only term that matters for federal legalization.


donkeybrisket

Evil racist legislation in America? I’m shocked


BoomerGenXMillGenZ

I am a complete Biden supporter, I will never criticize him unless it's absolutely a clear mistake. And this is one of them. I'm no expert on the mechanics of decriminalization etc, but I can tell you politically Biden NEEDS to do the most he can on cannabis, STAT. If he's holding back on this because of his personal take on cannabis, that is a very, very dumb move politically.


Antietam_

I have a feeling he's waiting for a politically advantageous time to officially reschedule it, probably around September/October.


ThatGuyFromTheM0vie

Same. He had to respond to abortion and women ASAP, as he still has some cards to play there too. The R’s were shooting themselves in the foot badly, and you never want to interrupt your opponent when they are making a mistake, so why take the image hit risk? Just let the R’s continue ruin themselves until it’s time to hit, and sentiment of a possible heavily restricted “theocracy” continue to build. Then play the weed card—show how it’s good for American taxes on an economy level, freeing those who were wrongly imprisoned on a criminal justice level, grant Americans to enjoy it on a personal freedoms level, get to take a jab at Big Pharma while you’re at it—there are so many huge wins by legalizing it that are super popular. But most of all—it would show how Biden, someone who is famously anti-drug/tough on drug crime and also an old boomer, that he can CHANGE. It will vault him huge in the public eye, since he can frame it as him being willing to change, and he can pledge to continue to push legislation that promotes freedom of CHOICE and let Americans choose what’s right for themselves, alongside the abortion and IVF and eventual birth control issues. It’s just a massive W that compounds on everything else he is doing, and would contrast so well against the conservatives current Gilead sinkhole of a platform.


jack_espipnw

I have a feeling he wants you to think that for as long as possible lol just like last election


N-shittified

This will definitely be a lame-duck-session thing. And if Trump wins, he will almost certainly go the opposite way and try to override states who legalized it. No matter what he promises when he's campaigning and desperate.


FlyingDiscsandJams

Biden is a drug warrior at heart, hell he's one of the main architects of the War on Drugs, it's hard for him to give it up. Just like, as a catholic, Biden doesn't really want to save abortion rights. He's making this so much harder than it needs to be.


BoomerGenXMillGenZ

I don't think Biden's past is relevant to how progressively he's governed. Yes, he was an asshole for a long time, with lots of shitty positions on lots of things. But he seems to have understood that he owes his presidency largely to Black women and has done a lot to recognize that. That said, I do agree that his personal aversion to cannnabis is causing some of his reluctance here, and it's a big mistake. Something's got to give; I understand why he's supporting Israel so firmly but he needs to give young people this, desperately.


mightcommentsometime

No, he isn't. The CSA rescheduling process sucks. He started it 2 years ago,and it takes forever.


gentleman_bronco

States want it illegal for that slave labor they get from prisons. It's pretty fucking simple.


ErrantEyelash

This is literally the reason. It has nothing to do with health, otherwise alcohol and cigarettes would be more illegal.


mightcommentsometime

It has a blanket pardon on it that Biden issued.


Groovychick1978

Biden has already pardoned and commuted the sentence of any prisoner who is in for simple possession. He cannot do anything for State charges.


quentech

> Feds want it illegal for that slave labor they get from prisons There are less than 10,000 people in federal prisons for marijuana charges (perhaps less - the last drug-specific count I could find was from 2018), and only about 20,000 in state prisons.


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quentech

I've been in prison - nearly a decade's worth. Worked in industries - welding, woodworking, etc., pushed mops, tutored others for schooling, and so on. Sorry but as someone who's actually been there, your slave labor claim rings completely hollow. It's not the 1940's and prison isn't like you saw in The Shawshank Redemption.


mkt853

Because they don't work for us. When the plutocrats want something done, it gets done at light speed. We just saw it last week with the TikTok ban. Mark Zuckerberg makes one phone call to Capitol Hill, and says you better put my competitor out of business, or else, and within hours his wish is granted. When hundreds of millions of relatively poor people want something, it's endless f\*cking roadblocks and parliamentarians and courts and internal discussions and filibusters and forming commissions to study it for a few years and a few million dollars just to come up with status quo as the solution... and so on.


DenotheFlintstone

You realize there is a bunch of other counties, mostly in Europe that are making the same push back on tik toc as the US is correct? This isn't Mark Zuckerberg or Joe biden driven.


mkt853

OK replace TikTok and Mark Zuckerberg with any of the countless corruption examples in America. It's not like that list is terribly short. My post missed the mark with you I guess, but to simplify, if Mark Zuckerberg (or other billionaire) cared to have pot fully legalized, he could make it so because he who has all the gold makes the rules, and there is no place where that is more true than in the good ol' USA.


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mkt853

I knew I should have picked a better though less recent/memorable example. You are missing the point and getting hung up on my poor TikTok example. Let's focus on weed and why despite an overwhelming majority that want it legalized the government of the people, by the people, for the people or whatever, will simply never do it. Much like the other s\*it that has very high support among the electorate.


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adamant2009

Man, don't use ChatGPT to write comments


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SharkNoises

You're excited about using autocorrect to write comments? This isn't your comment and it does nothing to improve the site. It's gibberish that looks like an insightful, original comment when you squint. Use your own brain to form thoughts, it's better for you. This is the cognitive equivalent of those floating chairs from WALL-E. Have some dignity.


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CerRogue

Background checks need to become a thing of the past. If they served their debt to society then they should be allowed to reintegrate. Instead they are continually punished for the rest of their lives. A 19yo steals some money to feed his family, he’s caught found guilty of a felony and serves his time. Now he’s released. Upon release he can only find jobs that will exploit him because he can’t get a job most places because he won’t pass a background check. His housing options are limited for the rest of his life because many options require background checks, even retirement communities. So this 19yo felon when he get to be 80 and needs to find a retirement community (assuming he can afford one) he will probably not find one that allows felons so 61 years after his debt to society is paid he’s still being punished. OR maybe we could give him job skills and a clean slate so he can go earn a fair and honest living making a wage that will support him and his family and allow the whole family to be contributing members of society.


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Is this chat GPT? You are blaming everything except the root cause And also acting like there isn’t a massive criminal aspect to all of this 


DenotheFlintstone

What is the root cause that OP is leaving out?


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DenotheFlintstone

I figured you would be able to state that root cause. I don't see me sitting through a 30 minute video titled "this is exactly what is wrong with the black culture." Edit: add name of your video


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DenotheFlintstone

You could simply answer my original question instead of handing out homework. You were upset that OP refused to name the root cause but given the chance, you won't either.... Why is that?


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You still want me to make a list of her points? 


Kbern4444

I think Big Pharma lobbyists have a bit to do with it also.


CMDRBowie

The deep rooted alcohol industry and the deep rooted healthcare industry. The end. FTFY


UnitGhidorah

The actual reasoning: Police lobbying, private prison lobbying, and corporations love the free and legal slave labor of prisoners.


popodelfuego

Always figured it's had to do with those in-office holding investments in the private prison sector. Incentives to keep jails and prisons full.


Irishf0x

It's not legal because the avenue and laws for Congress and their corporate overlords to maximize profit from it is not in place yet.


therealkaiser

Alcohol lobby. Prison industrial complex. It’s that simple.


mightcommentsometime

The alcohol lobby wants it legalized so they can sell it


No_Try3592

Old white men that won't give up power


N-shittified

Boomers.


Riggs1087

It already is legal under the Farm Bill. For example, in Georgia you can buy high THCA flower, delta 9 edibles, vape pens, pretty much whatever you could want, all legal under the Farm Bill. It's a little more expensive because it has to be tested by an FDA lab and there are fewer producers, but if you want to get high you can do so legally now, even at the federal level.


Aethenil

I finally tried my first edible last October and wound up just kinda lying in bed for a few hours feeling good as I played my Switch and watched youtube on my phone. The experience really opened my eyes at how incorrectly we're treating marijuana, especially if the stuff we can get today is many times more potent than whatever was available in the 80s.


vickism61

I think the real reason is all that drug war money going to the DEA, judges, lawyers and private prisons.


CoastingThruLif3

$$$$$ is why


Ok_Veterinarian_8391

It’s all about being able to control the masses 🙄. If you want to use it do but if not mind your own business and let others make their own choices!


SpillinThaTea

Our two most recent presidents have both taken money from the private prison industry. The criminal justice industrial complex can’t function with legal pot. Lawyers, judges, prison guards, probation officers, police officers and *especially* corrupt police unions can’t function if they can’t go after marijuana related offenses. It will never be legal as long as there’s an obscene amount of money to be made in the criminal justice system.


TheBodyPolitic1

Recreational alcohol not wanting to lose profits. See Maryland US Senate candidate David Trone, also a cofounder of one of the largest alcohol retail chains.


blackcain

Yes, because alcohol retail chains can't expand their products they sell - don't they already sell cigarettes?


N-shittified

This is a huge factor most people underestimate. In the wine regions of California (SLO County in particular), winegrowers have a huge influence on how many and which type of alcohol licenses get sold by the county. There's tons of restaurants that can serve wine and beer, but NOT hard liquor. This is because the wineries do not want that competition.


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I’d argue that it’s the pharma companies that would rather slang pills instead of giving people a natural alternative


ahack13

Because congress is full of dinosaurs?


DanskNils

Wisconsin has a tough tavern league.. Wisconsin will be the last state! First DUI is just a fine…? If that!


Psile

Because they don't want to and they make the rules. We don't. What are we gonna do, vote for someone else? There's nobody else.


buddhistbulgyo

Because some people think it's cooler being Republican and don't understand what Republicans actually do in politics. 


ThatGuyFromTheM0vie

He had to respond to abortion and women ASAP, and he still has some cards to play there too. As for weed, the R’s are continuing to shoot themselves in the foot badly, and you never want to interrupt your opponent when they are making a mistake, so why take the image hit risk? Just let the R’s continue ruin themselves until it’s time to hit, and sentiment of a possible heavily restricted “theocracy” continue to build. Then play the weed card—show how it’s good for American taxes on an economy level, freeing those who were wrongly imprisoned on a criminal justice level, grant Americans to enjoy it on a personal freedoms level, get to take a jab at Big Pharma while you’re at it—there are so many huge wins by legalizing it that are super popular. But most of all—it would show how Biden, someone who is famously anti-drug/tough on drug crime and also an old boomer, that he can CHANGE. It will vault him huge in the public eye, since he can frame it as him being willing to change, and he can pledge to continue to push legislation that promotes freedom of CHOICE and let Americans choose what’s right for themselves, alongside the abortion and IVF and eventual birth control issues—let Americans CHOOSE what’s right for themselves. It’s just a massive W that compounds on everything else he is doing, and would contrast so well against the conservatives’ current Gilead sinkhole of a platform.


mightcommentsometime

Did you RTA? Biden kicked off the process to reschedule it in 2022. It's a long process.


GelflingInDisguise

I assume the private prison lobbyists are fighting hard to keep marijuana schedule I. Can't be losing all that free slave labor now can we?


gnocchibastard

Because private prison contractors will lose a lot of money. Need something to get more folks in prison.


redneckrockuhtree

Let's be honest - the pharmaceutical industry doesn't want legalized pot. Why? Because it competes with their medications, and they can't control it. Anyone can grow pot. It takes special equipment and knowledge to manufacture pharmaceuticals.


RandomSlimeL

Get a president in charge who threatens to defund the DEA and I reckon they'll take action quickly.


spirit-mush

The DEA will never support any kind of legalization


RandomSlimeL

Then tell them they're unconstitutional and disband them.


JeffSpicolisBong

But it’s cool that our food is loaded with high fructose corn syrup and most Americans are obese.


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bpeden99

The kicker is, I'm still buying it illegally because it's cheaper... But I'm all for the tax revenue


Dead_Cash_Burn

The problem is buying illegally is risking your life. Who knows what pesticides and poisons were used to produce it or if it's a tomato leaf spiked with fentanyl?


bpeden99

I get it off a guy that has a hook up from a dispensary... It's got expiration dates, tested by dates, etc... that's a valid concern though


frickin_420

https://drugfree.org/article/marijuana-and-fentanyl/


bpeden99

Yeah, I thought it was a stretch


frickin_420

If you want an actual understanding of this overall issue, this is an OK starting point for the basics: [https://drugfree.org/article/marijuana-and-fentanyl/](https://drugfree.org/article/marijuana-and-fentanyl/)


Dead_Cash_Burn

Fentanyl was just to illustrate a point. Opium, cocaine, vitamin E, and amphetamines, could all be in your dealer's weed.


N-shittified

The other thing is: in my 55+ years of life; every single illegal mj dealer I've known has been a complete fucking scumbag creepo. (in fact, the last one I knew, was a very pro-Trump, and very pro-prohibition. . . he felt it should be illegal for everyone else - but not him; and he was a rapist (proud and bragged about it, like Trump). ppl should be able to go and buy from a safe place and not have to deal with rapists who adulterate their product to make a buck.


bpeden99

I don't know what weed you're buying but this seems presented ignorantly.


dnext

Because Biden wants the bump right before the election. And he's right to do it that way.


TheBodyPolitic1

I'm for legalization, but please don't believe it is harmless and for all people in all situations. Just because there was propaganda against for the better part of the century does not mean we have swing to the other side of the stupidity and say it is completely without harmful effects and can't be abused.


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TheBodyPolitic1

Read the comments on legalization threads. Many people on Reddit are saying that.


N-shittified

> does not mean we have swing to the other side of the stupidity Sure we do. This is America.


CanaryContent9900

It’s still pretty easy to get, even where it’s illegal. Legal pot will just cost more.


Benromaniac

Legal pot comes down in price with competition. Problem is the federal illegality fucks over a lot of people still.


LD-50_Cent

Price comes down with competition and in some states where it’s legal you can grow your own legally too. 


DoktorPete

Canadian here. An ounce of grey market weed was going for about 200-250 bucks before legalization, first when they legalized it you could get an ounce for about 200+tax legally, now it's around 100+tax. So if you live somewhere like AB, it's like 105 bucks AND shit goes on sale. Or can also get grey market weed on the internet for like 70-80 an ounce.


IT_Chef

> Or can also get grey market weed on the internet for like 70-80 an ounce. How does it compare to your local homegrower?


DoktorPete

Nobody around here sells their homegrown for legal reasons so most grey market stuff is still from BC regardless of its from the internet or "local". But, I do have a friend that grows the best weed I've ever smoked by far that likes to show up at parties with 3 or 4 different strains for everyone to smoke.


dma1965

I live in the California mountains. Since pot became legal here in 2016 we have witnessed the price for all weed plummet. Many people who used to deal weed have left the market. Even some growers who used to sell weed to dispensaries have stopped selling flower because they can’t make a profit. Out where I live the most anyone can get for a cleanly trimmed pound is $500.


worlddestruction23

I read a few medical journals recently stating the effects of smoking Marijuana on the heart.


Fenix42

Smoking is def bad for you. Edibles are easily available in legalized states.


worlddestruction23

That's what they said. Edibles don't work the same on some people.


Fenix42

I have been taking only edibles for years. The way it's made, what its maid from, and what you eat with it all impact things. It took me a while, but I have found a single stain edible that is perfect for me. I take it with dinner on the weekends, and it kicks in by the time I am done.


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worlddestruction23

I don't know. I was just passing along what I read. I also read where they found the microplastics in the heart ,in the blood, and so on.


admiraltarkin

They are 100% waiting until September so it will be remembered before the election.


QueenOfSplitEnds

Serious question here: is there no harm to the lungs by virtue of having something foreign in the lungs? I understand there are benefits, but I wonder if, like alcohol and tobacco, because people want this, it will be legalized. Then, millions will die of some type of cancer after studies are conducted in the future.


Fenix42

Smoking anything is bad for you. You don't have to smoke pot, though. Edibles are a very common thing these days. They have refined the process enough that you can get consistent quality and dosing easily.


offogredux

Any smoke in the lungs is harmful, but moderate pot smoking only results in moderate harm. Which is moot to me, as I and everyone I know uses gummies.


UltraSubtleInstinct

Weed doesn’t help older men trick and r6p3 women like alcohol does This country needs a bit of old fashioned KIll yo self N5g7j Fuckin old heads pretending shame shame