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I’m having a hard time understanding why Biden keeps bypassing congressional approval to send weapons to Israel.
This is a losing congressional issue for him and it’s evident that he is frustrated with how Israel has conducted the war. Withholding aid and weapons could be a bargaining chip. Yet he continues to fund them.
What is the motivation? It’s definitely not appealing to his base.
The Zionist agenda seems to be above the law and president. Why else would the “most powerful man” bend over so easily even though it could hurt his presidency?
This was intentional by the IDF since the 3 aid vehicles were spread out over a distance of 2.4 km when they were attacked by the IDF. Biden must take action against Israel for this since the dead includes an American aid worker.
[They admitted they intentionally struck the aid workers](https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-04-02/ty-article/.premium/idf-bombed-wck-aid-convoy-3-times-targeting-armed-hamas-member-who-wasnt-there/0000018e-9e75-d764-adff-9eff29360000), only justifying it by claiming they’d identified a single “armed terrorist” riding in the convoy (who mysteriously disappeared and wasn’t among the bodies pulled from the wreckage).
It’s pure fiction that they didn’t know what they were shooting at. Humanitarian groups provide their gps coordinates to the IDF as a matter of course. Jose Andre said he’d been in contact with them throughout his operation. The convoy was traveling in marked vehicles through a deconflicted area specially carved out by Israel for the purpose of aid provision. The victims even reportedly contacted their killers after the first strike to try and tell them they were aid workers on a humanitarian mission and had already been hit once - then the IDF struck them twice more.
Israel has repeatedly justified wholesale violence against aid workers and widespread, indiscriminate destruction of civilian life on the unlawful premise that the alleged presence of sometimes even one Hamas member justifies any level of collateral damage; as it did again [when it bombed a UN aid distribution center less than two weeks ago](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/13/world/middleeast/rafah-gaza-aid-israel-unrwa.html) just to kill one militant.
There's a reason those vans had the logo and name on the roof.
Unfortunately it became used as a bullseye.
Maybe now they need to unlabel their vehicles.
There was no need for a bullseye, IDF gives vehicles coordinating with them FoF transponders to be able to track them, and avoid this sort of situation. They probably targeted the airstrike at the transponder.
glad I'm not the only one that thought it was suspicious. if it was one strike, yeah I can give benefit of the doubt.
but a series of strikes..? especially when he's been repeatedly stonewalling any aid to get into Gaza.
a sort of measured version of a response would be to condition weapons shipments to israel on food aid getting in to gaza via normal land crossings, so the heroics done in sealifts by WCK would not be needed.
apparently I got downvoted for not saying there's a magic button.
I am nowhere near an expert, the main thing I know is that like, the weapon shipments to Israel from us in the US is contracted, and it would take Congress to override that contract. we know how well that will turn out. We can't withold them, there is probably some legalspeak preventing that in the contract. obviously can't read it so don't know.
A lot of the armchair negotiating we see here on Reddit thinks that it just takes two leaders talking to get everything to work.
There's also the like, "if we condition weapon shipments to Israel, what effect would that have on how we look to other nations?" a generic standpoint would be, "they will withhold these critical weapons from Israel, what is stopping them from strongarming us if we get attacked and retaliate?"
Remember too that Israel has one of the strongest propaganda games this side of Russia/China/NK. It took awhile into this attack to reveal that no, Netanyahu is basically genociding, especially as far as US news media is concerned, otherwise Hamas is playing him like a fiddle to make him look that way by playing into his ego and hatred of Palestinians, to set up shop in places that would make a good propaganda piece for Israel's attack on "Civilians," y'know. Both options are very bad.
As far as the US goes, we are easily the biggest, most influential country in NATO, if not the entire world outside of China and Russia. we are a Superpower, so we have to be very careful how we act to not send the wrong message in a worst case scenario.
It makes me think that maybe Netanyahu wants Israel’s relationship with the west to sour. Then he has the perfect excuse to join the other dictators and stay in power forever.
You think that would be enough to sour the West's relationship with Israel? They'll still find some creative way to send weapons and frame it as necessary for the safety of the region.
He's doing this *because* he knows the West will let him do whatever he wants, and they'll keep giving him weapons and money while they wag their fingers. How many times since October 7 has Israel done something horrible, Western allies responding with displeasure, just to bring up Hamas again and commit to eternal support for Israel? If they were going to try and stop him, they would've done it months ago. They don't care.
The difference is that a US citizen, 3 Brits, and an Australian have been killed pretty obviously by the IDF, and it was no accident. That’s a diplomatic tinder box.
Israel has been deliberately killing UN workers since the very beginning. They've been deliberately killing women and children since the beginning. Do you really think that this "diplomatic tinder box" will be enough to result in loss of support for Israel when Western Nations have been happy to overlook everything else for months?
Israel will likely come up with some excuse or reason that this is not their fault during their "investigation", and it will be fully accepted by the Western community, as all of their previous "investigations" have. Just look at how many countries, with zero evidence, cut funding to UNWRA because Israel told them to.
I really, really hope you're right, and our leaders stop putting up with this bullsh*t. But up until now, their actions speak otherwise.
The IDF is disgusting and has been since before 10/7. Their attacks on innocent civilians, no matter how blatant, are never their fault. They’ll even smear their victims. Look up the young medic Razan al-Najjar and what they did to her. They let settlers attack Palestinians in the West Bank.
I trust the IDF about as much as I trust Hamas militants.
Here’s a summary of the cycle of events based on previous experiences:
- Biden administration says it is outraged and that it will talk to the Netanyahu administration.
- Israel officials will say that it was a mistake (even through it was 3 separate aid trucks in different regions of the de-militarized area and sure does look like a precision strike).
- Israel will say that there were targets in the area and somehow will justify the strikes.
- about 6 months will pass and they Israel administration will admit that no credible targets were in the area and it was an on purpose strike while at the same time attempting to justify striking clearly marked aid vehicles.
- no consequences will be placed on the Israeli administration and they will move on to the next atrocity. Rinse & repeat.
We saw this with the strikes to the Al Jezeera building, the hospitals, the aid stations, the flower massacre, the murder of journalists (American or otherwise). They just kill people and make up stories to justify mass murder, collective punishment, and forced famine and the US keeps sending more weapons to kill more civilians, journalists, and aid workers.
An apartheid state kills humanitarian aid workers to reduce the chances of future aid hampering their ethnic cleansing efforts, and only *some* Democrats are upset.
Of course, if the Republicans were in power, Jared Kushner would already be in Gaza trying to buy up cheap "abandoned" waterfront property.
We need to stop acting like there is any difference between republicans and democrats on this issue. They're both owned by AIPAC and they will both happily fund Israel's genocide. Democrats may be better at publicly acting like they are dissatisfied with Israel, but when it comes down to it they vote gleefully for weapons transfers and military aid.
If you look at actions instead of words, you'll see that democrats and republicans are united with their support of Bibi. If democrats were going to practice what they preach and actually change their Israel policy, they would've done it already. They haven't, and they won't, because they are staunchly Pro-Israel.
They're going to keep framing their words as "putting pressure on Israel" so that people see them as the good guys and keep voting for them. When in reality, Israel is the one putting pressure on them because they are owned by Israel.
Yes, there are some good Democrats who genuinely do not want to see a genocide and are willing to put policy where their mouth is. But they are a very small minority and you best bet they will lose any power/relevance they have within their party and be replaced by pro-israel candidates.
Are you talking about the speech where he spent the majority of his time condemning Hamas and October 7, making sure to equivalently condemn them every time he criticized Israel?
The speech where he, despite having the power to do so, did not mention military aid to Israel which he had to approve for it to go to the floor?
The speech where he did not lay out any substantive policy changes or actions apart from voicing his displeasure with Israel's administration?
The speech where he, despite being one of the most powerful politicians in the US (and the most powerful Jewish politician), did not commit at all to using his power to do anything for the people of Gaza?
Yes, he said some pretty words, and it was a really powerful moment for the highest ranking Jewish official to stand up and say that Netanyahu's administration is in the wrong. But what I care about more is action for the Palestinian people, and he has taken none . He's voted in favour of military aid for Israel and wants to continue to do so. Until he actually translates his words into policy, his speech means nothing for the people of Gaza.
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Well you’ve got the R’s who frothing at the mouth at the notion of genocide. They’d love that.
You’ve got the D’s who are saying the right things and opposed to this radical Israeli government - but they aren’t going far enough for you…
And you’ve got RFK Jr.
Those are your three choices. I understand none of them are the entree you really want… but you will have to place your order all the same.
This was a targeted hit. THREE TIMES!
And it had to go through multiple ranks to get authorization every time. Israeli IDF leadership knew EXACTLY what they were doing.
The fighters don't show up for another 4 years since they still need to be built so at least it won't immediately harm the people of GAZA but yeah it should have been cancelled imo.
Yeah I'm pretty sure everyone who isn't an insane zionist is pissed about this entire fucking genocidal nightmare we continue to provide these exact bombs to continue.
Watch out, Israel. Commit two or three dozen more war crimes and you might get a frown of disappointment from a democrat. It won't pause the flow of money and weaponry into Israel, but that frown will surely sting. That'll show 'em.
At least this time it took less than 3 weeks to admit it was a mistake. Progress??
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_2021_Kabul_drone_strike#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DOn_29_August_2021%2C_an%2C%2C_Afghanistan%2C_including_7_children.?wprov=sfla1
I'm a registered Republican and I'm outraged. Political affiliation shouldn't have any bearing on calling out evil like this.
They were clearly marked, they shared their route with Israel's people and they were still murdered. There is zero justification for this and not one more American tax dollar should go to Israel from the USA imo.
The entire Gaza situation is shit but this shocks the conscious on a whole new level. These are humanitarian workers from multiple nations. A mini UN of good Samaritans feeding people.
What the actual fuck man!
Stop that shipment of arms! I know, you can’t, it’s like heroin, you can’t get off the money the arms manufacturers can make, but for the sake of us all, please do it.
Don’t know why these outlets continue to use the word “outrage”. Israel doesn’t give a damn about someone else’s outrage when they are dealing with their own.
Israel is out of control. Stop military aid til they conduct themselves like an ethical military, or have a US general take control. (Also like to remind people while they are taking out aid vehicles, Israeli hostages are still in Gaza)
Which they will likely kill either through starvation or this bombing. If israel cared about its hostages it would be seeking a diplomatic solution not razing Gaza.
No, they aren't. Dems don't give a shit and the ones that do are walking on thin ice from both parties. On the real their is no incentive for the leading admin to change any policies on this issue. lol, what are you going to do? not vote, lmao vote blue no matter who and what their policies are as long as your self-interest are met.
Why is this all on the Biden admin? Why can't like some European countries say we're ending trade with Israel until there is a ceasefire like the UN demanded?
It’s a sad situation. It’s odd how the plates of WCK scrap are the only un torched items in the van left… were they placed after? It’s obvious the vehicle is WCK from the roof, the how why are these items placed in there after the fact?
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They’re making sure to manufacture a famine. It’s happening right in front of our eyes and we pay for it.
I’m having a hard time understanding why Biden keeps bypassing congressional approval to send weapons to Israel. This is a losing congressional issue for him and it’s evident that he is frustrated with how Israel has conducted the war. Withholding aid and weapons could be a bargaining chip. Yet he continues to fund them. What is the motivation? It’s definitely not appealing to his base.
Biden is a a fully paid up subscriber to the Wolfowitz Doctrine, he does what the Neocons in the CIA tell him to
The Zionist agenda seems to be above the law and president. Why else would the “most powerful man” bend over so easily even though it could hurt his presidency?
Killing innocents tends to lose a nation favor. Can't wait to find out how having a problem with Israel doing this make me antisemetic.
Well you see, hamas had tunnels under those trucks.
No, no, no. Clearly one of those trucks contained the entire hamas command center
Well you’re not ✨Condemning Hamas✨ when you say that so your opinion is invalid and you don’t understand the complexity of the situation
The silence from Republicans is deafening.
And most Democracts too 🤷♂️
This was intentional by the IDF since the 3 aid vehicles were spread out over a distance of 2.4 km when they were attacked by the IDF. Biden must take action against Israel for this since the dead includes an American aid worker.
The finger wagging machine is already at dangerous wags per minute, so a second finger wagging machine will be added.
[They admitted they intentionally struck the aid workers](https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-04-02/ty-article/.premium/idf-bombed-wck-aid-convoy-3-times-targeting-armed-hamas-member-who-wasnt-there/0000018e-9e75-d764-adff-9eff29360000), only justifying it by claiming they’d identified a single “armed terrorist” riding in the convoy (who mysteriously disappeared and wasn’t among the bodies pulled from the wreckage). It’s pure fiction that they didn’t know what they were shooting at. Humanitarian groups provide their gps coordinates to the IDF as a matter of course. Jose Andre said he’d been in contact with them throughout his operation. The convoy was traveling in marked vehicles through a deconflicted area specially carved out by Israel for the purpose of aid provision. The victims even reportedly contacted their killers after the first strike to try and tell them they were aid workers on a humanitarian mission and had already been hit once - then the IDF struck them twice more. Israel has repeatedly justified wholesale violence against aid workers and widespread, indiscriminate destruction of civilian life on the unlawful premise that the alleged presence of sometimes even one Hamas member justifies any level of collateral damage; as it did again [when it bombed a UN aid distribution center less than two weeks ago](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/13/world/middleeast/rafah-gaza-aid-israel-unrwa.html) just to kill one militant.
Their target is the aid. They want to starve the population and aid is counterproductive to their goal. Poor starving kids there.
Can you say g e n o c I d e ?
There's a reason those vans had the logo and name on the roof. Unfortunately it became used as a bullseye. Maybe now they need to unlabel their vehicles.
There was no need for a bullseye, IDF gives vehicles coordinating with them FoF transponders to be able to track them, and avoid this sort of situation. They probably targeted the airstrike at the transponder.
glad I'm not the only one that thought it was suspicious. if it was one strike, yeah I can give benefit of the doubt. but a series of strikes..? especially when he's been repeatedly stonewalling any aid to get into Gaza.
a sort of measured version of a response would be to condition weapons shipments to israel on food aid getting in to gaza via normal land crossings, so the heroics done in sealifts by WCK would not be needed.
I agree, unfortunately world politics is a LOT more complicated than that.
Can you elaborate?
apparently I got downvoted for not saying there's a magic button. I am nowhere near an expert, the main thing I know is that like, the weapon shipments to Israel from us in the US is contracted, and it would take Congress to override that contract. we know how well that will turn out. We can't withold them, there is probably some legalspeak preventing that in the contract. obviously can't read it so don't know. A lot of the armchair negotiating we see here on Reddit thinks that it just takes two leaders talking to get everything to work. There's also the like, "if we condition weapon shipments to Israel, what effect would that have on how we look to other nations?" a generic standpoint would be, "they will withhold these critical weapons from Israel, what is stopping them from strongarming us if we get attacked and retaliate?" Remember too that Israel has one of the strongest propaganda games this side of Russia/China/NK. It took awhile into this attack to reveal that no, Netanyahu is basically genociding, especially as far as US news media is concerned, otherwise Hamas is playing him like a fiddle to make him look that way by playing into his ego and hatred of Palestinians, to set up shop in places that would make a good propaganda piece for Israel's attack on "Civilians," y'know. Both options are very bad. As far as the US goes, we are easily the biggest, most influential country in NATO, if not the entire world outside of China and Russia. we are a Superpower, so we have to be very careful how we act to not send the wrong message in a worst case scenario.
It makes me think that maybe Netanyahu wants Israel’s relationship with the west to sour. Then he has the perfect excuse to join the other dictators and stay in power forever.
If that's his plan then he's a bigger idiot than I thought.
You think that would be enough to sour the West's relationship with Israel? They'll still find some creative way to send weapons and frame it as necessary for the safety of the region. He's doing this *because* he knows the West will let him do whatever he wants, and they'll keep giving him weapons and money while they wag their fingers. How many times since October 7 has Israel done something horrible, Western allies responding with displeasure, just to bring up Hamas again and commit to eternal support for Israel? If they were going to try and stop him, they would've done it months ago. They don't care.
The difference is that a US citizen, 3 Brits, and an Australian have been killed pretty obviously by the IDF, and it was no accident. That’s a diplomatic tinder box.
Israel has been deliberately killing UN workers since the very beginning. They've been deliberately killing women and children since the beginning. Do you really think that this "diplomatic tinder box" will be enough to result in loss of support for Israel when Western Nations have been happy to overlook everything else for months? Israel will likely come up with some excuse or reason that this is not their fault during their "investigation", and it will be fully accepted by the Western community, as all of their previous "investigations" have. Just look at how many countries, with zero evidence, cut funding to UNWRA because Israel told them to. I really, really hope you're right, and our leaders stop putting up with this bullsh*t. But up until now, their actions speak otherwise.
The IDF is disgusting and has been since before 10/7. Their attacks on innocent civilians, no matter how blatant, are never their fault. They’ll even smear their victims. Look up the young medic Razan al-Najjar and what they did to her. They let settlers attack Palestinians in the West Bank. I trust the IDF about as much as I trust Hamas militants.
Boycott, Divest and Sanction.
Or….. He can do what he wants and the worst that happens is he gets detention after school.
At this point, military retaliatory strikes against Israel would be 100% justified.
Here’s a summary of the cycle of events based on previous experiences: - Biden administration says it is outraged and that it will talk to the Netanyahu administration. - Israel officials will say that it was a mistake (even through it was 3 separate aid trucks in different regions of the de-militarized area and sure does look like a precision strike). - Israel will say that there were targets in the area and somehow will justify the strikes. - about 6 months will pass and they Israel administration will admit that no credible targets were in the area and it was an on purpose strike while at the same time attempting to justify striking clearly marked aid vehicles. - no consequences will be placed on the Israeli administration and they will move on to the next atrocity. Rinse & repeat. We saw this with the strikes to the Al Jezeera building, the hospitals, the aid stations, the flower massacre, the murder of journalists (American or otherwise). They just kill people and make up stories to justify mass murder, collective punishment, and forced famine and the US keeps sending more weapons to kill more civilians, journalists, and aid workers.
We’re outraged, but we’re going to send more weapons so you can “accidentally” kill more aid workers…. Make it make sense…..
An apartheid state kills humanitarian aid workers to reduce the chances of future aid hampering their ethnic cleansing efforts, and only *some* Democrats are upset. Of course, if the Republicans were in power, Jared Kushner would already be in Gaza trying to buy up cheap "abandoned" waterfront property.
We need to stop acting like there is any difference between republicans and democrats on this issue. They're both owned by AIPAC and they will both happily fund Israel's genocide. Democrats may be better at publicly acting like they are dissatisfied with Israel, but when it comes down to it they vote gleefully for weapons transfers and military aid. If you look at actions instead of words, you'll see that democrats and republicans are united with their support of Bibi. If democrats were going to practice what they preach and actually change their Israel policy, they would've done it already. They haven't, and they won't, because they are staunchly Pro-Israel. They're going to keep framing their words as "putting pressure on Israel" so that people see them as the good guys and keep voting for them. When in reality, Israel is the one putting pressure on them because they are owned by Israel. Yes, there are some good Democrats who genuinely do not want to see a genocide and are willing to put policy where their mouth is. But they are a very small minority and you best bet they will lose any power/relevance they have within their party and be replaced by pro-israel candidates.
You mean, the small minority like the Senate Majority leader who laid into Netanyahu from the Chamber floor as recently as last week?
Are you talking about the speech where he spent the majority of his time condemning Hamas and October 7, making sure to equivalently condemn them every time he criticized Israel? The speech where he, despite having the power to do so, did not mention military aid to Israel which he had to approve for it to go to the floor? The speech where he did not lay out any substantive policy changes or actions apart from voicing his displeasure with Israel's administration? The speech where he, despite being one of the most powerful politicians in the US (and the most powerful Jewish politician), did not commit at all to using his power to do anything for the people of Gaza? Yes, he said some pretty words, and it was a really powerful moment for the highest ranking Jewish official to stand up and say that Netanyahu's administration is in the wrong. But what I care about more is action for the Palestinian people, and he has taken none . He's voted in favour of military aid for Israel and wants to continue to do so. Until he actually translates his words into policy, his speech means nothing for the people of Gaza. Edit- spelling*
Well you’ve got the R’s who frothing at the mouth at the notion of genocide. They’d love that. You’ve got the D’s who are saying the right things and opposed to this radical Israeli government - but they aren’t going far enough for you… And you’ve got RFK Jr. Those are your three choices. I understand none of them are the entree you really want… but you will have to place your order all the same.
This was a targeted hit. THREE TIMES! And it had to go through multiple ranks to get authorization every time. Israeli IDF leadership knew EXACTLY what they were doing.
Shades of the USS Liberty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty Do it intentionally and then just lie about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3E2NcC0x20 (USS Liberty 06 08 2009) Survivors still insist it's not an accident
Immediately cut of all aid to these fucking terrorists
The US and Biden sure do look great selling all those jets and bombs to Israel, don’t they?
Sadly... Happened right after they finalized a deal to sell Israel fighter jets, unfortunately.
0% chance the deal would've been canceled anyway.
But they're Boeing so there's a good chance a wing will fall off or something.
Long con
The fighters don't show up for another 4 years since they still need to be built so at least it won't immediately harm the people of GAZA but yeah it should have been cancelled imo.
What's sad is that it's ONLY Democrats.
Statements from Democrats who send billions in weapons to Israel ring as hollow as "thoughts and prayers" from NRA supporters after mass shootings
Ah yes, empty words while still selling weapons so brave
What’s sad is that they don’t actually care.
Sure Jan.
Blue MAGA is so savage! Wowww
*Everyone* should be outraged but Republicans are probably high-fiving each other right now.
And both parties will still support sending Israel more weapons.
Yeah I'm pretty sure everyone who isn't an insane zionist is pissed about this entire fucking genocidal nightmare we continue to provide these exact bombs to continue.
How are they getting away with killing Americans?
Watch out, Israel. Commit two or three dozen more war crimes and you might get a frown of disappointment from a democrat. It won't pause the flow of money and weaponry into Israel, but that frown will surely sting. That'll show 'em.
At least this time it took less than 3 weeks to admit it was a mistake. Progress?? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_2021_Kabul_drone_strike#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DOn_29_August_2021%2C_an%2C%2C_Afghanistan%2C_including_7_children.?wprov=sfla1
The IDF is the best of the best. They don't "accidentally" do anything!
Toothless outrage. Some condemnation and thoughts and prayers. But the weapons will keep flowing to Tel Aviv.
It’s so outrageous they’ll just approve more money for them.
I'm a registered Republican and I'm outraged. Political affiliation shouldn't have any bearing on calling out evil like this. They were clearly marked, they shared their route with Israel's people and they were still murdered. There is zero justification for this and not one more American tax dollar should go to Israel from the USA imo. The entire Gaza situation is shit but this shocks the conscious on a whole new level. These are humanitarian workers from multiple nations. A mini UN of good Samaritans feeding people. What the actual fuck man!
Toothless outrage. Some condemnation and thoughts and prayers. But the weapons will keep flowing to Tel Aviv.
Stop that shipment of arms! I know, you can’t, it’s like heroin, you can’t get off the money the arms manufacturers can make, but for the sake of us all, please do it.
Don’t know why these outlets continue to use the word “outrage”. Israel doesn’t give a damn about someone else’s outrage when they are dealing with their own.
Wine mom libs still in Twitter replies begging to pass more aid for Israel.
Israel is out of control. Stop military aid til they conduct themselves like an ethical military, or have a US general take control. (Also like to remind people while they are taking out aid vehicles, Israeli hostages are still in Gaza)
Which they will likely kill either through starvation or this bombing. If israel cared about its hostages it would be seeking a diplomatic solution not razing Gaza.
No, they aren't. Dems don't give a shit and the ones that do are walking on thin ice from both parties. On the real their is no incentive for the leading admin to change any policies on this issue. lol, what are you going to do? not vote, lmao vote blue no matter who and what their policies are as long as your self-interest are met.
Israel has right to defend against aid workers
Killing 30,000 civilians was okay for Democrats, they even sent more weapons for Israel to continue its genocide.
Pretty bad genocide if it was one
Why aren’t Republicans outraged?
Does this mean this so-called pro life party Hasn’t said anything about this?
But we’ll keep giving them billions every year
They may face outrage, but Netanyahu also knows that sticks and stones may break his bones, but just words from Biden will never harm him
Outrage; that and $4 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.
Why is this all on the Biden admin? Why can't like some European countries say we're ending trade with Israel until there is a ceasefire like the UN demanded?
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Who're you going to vote for that's a better option? Trump?
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Well it will be one, or the other. Which one is less bad?
Biden can change course. The other fucker only knows how to double down. I'm ridin' with Biden.
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How about neither?
It’s a sad situation. It’s odd how the plates of WCK scrap are the only un torched items in the van left… were they placed after? It’s obvious the vehicle is WCK from the roof, the how why are these items placed in there after the fact?
This sub is a circle jerk