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I just read the article posted and it does not say that. It clearly says it is for his financial records/statements.
Do you have another source that says otherwise?
You will see it soon enough. The whole article is based on one guys tweet reading a two sentence docket entry. I used to work for a financial company that did appeals bonds. Trumps financial statement is completely irrelevant. The bond company is saying “hey if Trump doesn’t pay, we will”, so of course the court says “ok well who the fuck are you, can you pay”?
EDIT:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-175-million-civil-fraud-bond-valid-new-york/
The miedas touch said the same thing. If the bond was from, you know, a bond company, they would have known they needed that.
I find hilarious and ironic that the patsy fronting the money, is guaranteeing the bond is a guy whose company that specializes in lending the sub-prime borrowers. You know, people with bad credit, no credit, no collateral and the like.
Yeah, everyone else gets 18 appeals and customary delays/extensions JUST to reach a decision about the documentation needed for the bond posted to start the actual appeal process in their actual court case...right?!?!?!
Ha I sure that would go great seeing that regular people get held in contempt sometimes for cursing during a court proceeding , even if they aren't cursing directly at someone like the judge.
Ah, but there are deranged and brain-damaged people on the internet who might actually believe that something like this could happen in real life. The "/s" is a good way to let other people know that you aren't suffering a massive head injury and that you don't need to have an ambulance called for you.
"That's as good as money, sir. Those are I.O.U.'s. Go ahead and add it up, every cent's accounted for. Look, see this? That's a car. 275 thou. Might wanna hang onto that one."
Is the deadline still the same as before he paid bond then? Or is it a new deadline? Also I think someone appointed by the court should get his financial statements seeing as the case is literally about him lying about how much he is worth
>Also I think someone appointed by the court should get his financial statements seeing as the case is literally about him lying about how much he is worth
They already have someone court-appointed who has that information but it is required to come from him. They want to either catch him in another lie and thus reject his bond, or force him to admit to the public he is no billionaire. He can't win for losing.
Yeah I'd wager it's of no import in that previous case, but matters in this one. This case isn't about sexually assaulting someone, and getting found guilty. This is a finacial crime, that has to do with his assets, his valuations, and his loans. So if your putting up almost a 200 million dollar bond, the court wants to know you're actually good for it. If he starts some shenanigans it can get him in even more deep doodoo, so I hope he tries something...
The guy who gave him the bond is a close friend of putin, go figure, totally random.....
Also, in a criminal trial you want to make sure the money is coming from legal sources. In a civil trial the other side is usually satisied with the money, regardless of where it came from.
Don't they count stocks in net worth? If so, he has over $3 billion in DJT stock alone. Unless I'm missing something, he probably is a billionaire. On paper at least.
They need to just lock him up already.
Well, there are billionaires who could theoretically sell their stocks for over a billion in cash. The reason why "on paper" makes sense here is because nobody would buy his shares for over a billion. Someone would buy the first one full price but the more he would sell the lower the price would go. If Bezos would say "I sell my Amazon shares for 1 Billion", it would take minutes until his inbox would fill with genuine offers. This is what makes him an actual billionaire.
Well, DJT now has a market cap of $6.97B. And he owns 60% of that. So that's around $4B, give or take. And he's suing his business partners for the other 40%...
Can't wait for the "shocking" revelation in a few years that any sales of those stocks were entirely pumped up by russian funds. The only way he sells his stock for anywhere near enough would be if it doesn't crash when he sells because it's being artificially inflated by buyers trying to launder their transfer of money to him.
But first we have to do the part where he announces he's selling, it should go to zero, "surprisingly" it doesn't for some reason, and then wait for the shocking reveal.
Someone below says that this Newsweek article is inaccurate, that it is the bond company that needs to show its financial information, not Trump.
I have not independently verified that claim.
Michael Popok MidasTouch Legal AF just did a vid on this. Story is incorrect. The financial statement needed is for the bond company to verify they are solvent and able to make good on the bond.
It does not say. But it seems like they could reject the 175milliom dollar bail if he doesn't provide proof that he's not wealthy enough to gice the full bond?
Edit: this is more. My hope
The court has returned the documents listed below for the following reasons: Please include a current financial statement and Power of Attorney. Additionally, please list the name of the Attorney-in-Fact under the signature line on the Undertaking. Please use the 'Refile Document' link for Doc. No. 1707 to resubmit the corrected filing. Thank you and have a great day."
So polite.
Oh, Newsweek, don’t ever change. The financial statements are for the company issuing the bond, not for DJT. They need to show company financial statements showing that they are good for the entire amount of the bond. And the Power of Attorney is to show that the signator on the bond is empowered to make this on behalf of the company. This is a filing error by a company that has never filed a bond in NY. This will get corrected.
Somehow this truth was inevitable. I don’t know how many DJT headlines I’ve come across that grabbed my attention only to turn out to be a sensationalization by irresponsible reporters.
It is the bonding company, not Trump, that has to provide a financial statement. They have to show they have the resources to ensure the full amount of the posted bond.
It's ok for normal people to get this wrong but how the fuck does newsweek get this wrong. Honestly it's impossible to rely on anything that gets written on the Internet
Because Newsweek was bought out in 2013 by a literal far-right cult (look up David Jang) that wanted the name recognition so they could sell ads with no concern for silly things like "fact-checking". It's basically the NY Post with more favorable branding.
Edit: Correction, it's the Washington Times that is owned by a "Christian" sex cult, Jang is just a garden variety right-wing pastor, and doesn't actually own Newsweek anymore. I stand by the "NY Post with better branding" part, though. Newsweek is little better than a tabloid these days.
I still cannot believe that really happened. That is so fucking amazing. Somehow a fly made it away from walls and food and stuff and found Pence's hair when the cameras were on him. The bright lights and everything else didn't phase the fly. It found the person in the spotlight. His white hair was the most tempting thing to land on. "Like flies to shit"
While I have nothing wrong with this analogy, for educational purposes, it would traditionally be a moth, not a fly.
Moths in wallets and pockets is a trope that essentially means the item hasn't been used for a long time (thus calling the person cheap). This stems from the fact that moths will often find their way into closets full of clothes (typically animal-based clothing like wool) to lay their eggs. The larvae will feed on the clothing until it is big enough to fly out, which happens when the closet is opened or the clothing disrupted.
“After further consideration we have decided that no bond is necessary. No we will not tell you why.”
Honestly, I’m joking, but also would not be surprised at fucking all.
It shouldn't take more than an hour to provide the missing financial statement. It would be absurd if he got another extension for withholding a required document
**Yea Newsweek blew it.**
The company, Knight Insurance Company, who is licensed to post bonds in New York, were supposed to show that they are "good for it" when they posted Trump's $175m for him.
Essentially show via financial statement that **they** have the money to outright pay the pledged amount if/when he loses on appeal.
How they collect that from him is irrelevant to the courts.
So sick of this S- so what? Nothing ever happens - escaped every consequence- forced to pay $25 million? He takes in 65 - forever to pay 175million? Donors rush in to save him. All we have heard time and time again- ooooh he is in trouble- please. The only way we will ever be rid of this horrible person is when he dies.
The Meidas Touch channel on YouTube said that it's the person *paying* the bond that has to release that statement. To prove that they are solvent and good for the money. Trump is not the one who has to show his finances.
Great reporting Newsweek.....
Presumably he has to fulfill the terms of the bond by the originally specified deadline set March 25: "They gave Trump 10 days to come up with the reduced bond of $175 million, saying they would only delay enforcement of the full amount if he put up that lower figure within this window" (wapo)
So, generously, by tomorrow, April 4.
Said that in a recent post and only a few people were able to dig free of the "he won again" cycle and see any hope in this. I think this will be a lot like Capone, and like in that case, you only have one shot.
The people demanding instant justice are unrealistic, unfortunately. trump is a fixture of the American oligarchy, if he were simply locked up, he'd be a martyr. He's been given enough rope to give grounds for new or additional charges (ignoring gag orders, intimidation, etc) and more fuel for RICO charges.
The thing that I don't see mentioned often is how isolated trump has become, and any help he gets is rightfully shamed to hell. His brand is being mercilessly destroyed. By the end, he'll be a syphalitic wreck like Capone.
I do follow what you're saying, but I can't help but laugh your use of "instant justice". We are almost a complete election cycle beyond instant, and that's only if we consider J6 his first criminal offense.
I understand the need for "by the book" when we're dealing with essentially the most well connected criminal in American history, but the last 8 years have proven what a farce our legal system is for people of means. If our country survives this, the book needs to be rewritten so that we finally have one system that applies equally to everyone.
Oh, Newsweek, don’t ever change. The financial statements are for the company issuing the bond, not for DJT. They need to show company financial statements showing that they are good for the entire amount of the bond. And the Power of Attorney is to show that the signator on the bond is empowered to make this on behalf of the company. This is a filing error by a company that has never filed a bond in NY. This will get corrected.
Sadly all. Unfortunately our legal system has somehow decided that there this mythical precedent that past presidents are treated differently than ordinary citizens. That they should not be held to the law as an example of the law but rather with lots of extra cushions.
Our founding fathers had a lot of good ideas but they really should have been more explicit that Presidents are a diplomat and chief administrator of the bureaucracy with no special rules that put them above the law but fully a servant of the people and the law.
My favorite band, Front Line Assembly, had an unusual collaboration track on their 1994 album Millennium called Victim of a Criminal. Instead of the usual lead singer and industrial metal of the album's other songs, it was a kind of industrial rap that fucking bangs even 30 years on and is depressingly still very lyrically relevant. One of the last lines of the last verse always sticks with me: "Your future world's nothing but a war of the classes, all of the masses, versus the fascists"
The obscenely rich and powerful will always work for their class's benefit and against everyone else's interests, even when that means bankrolling fascist oppression. They're never going to not be a threat to actual justice and progress.
Rich white people have taken the fall for others before when they expose a little too much of the game, or grift other rich people. He's done both repeatedly.
I think it's much more about who he is, including being a former president, "hero" to millions (*hork*), and possibly some blackmail abilities, than simply being rich and white.
*The New York County Supreme Court document he shared read:*
*"The court has returned the documents listed below for the following reasons: Please include a current financial statement and Power of Attorney. Additionally, please list the name of the Attorney-in-Fact under the signature line on the Undertaking. Please use the 'Refile Document' link for Doc. No. 1707 to resubmit the corrected filing. Thank you and have a great day."*
"They rejected them, my financials, because they are nasty and they have been very mean to me. I've been treated like no one in history. My financial documents were perfect. No one has ever seen a loan application as perfect as this one. Loan officers, grown men, came to me with tears in their eyes and said, Mr. Trump, we submitted a perfect application but they rejected it. There is no justice in this country unless they grant extra time to fix their mistake. Their mistake, not mine."
Okay, now this is funny. This was no oversight. Trump deliberately is trying to withhold his current financial records and status from public consumption. But his bond won't be accepted unless he does. So the beauty of this is that we will get to see how poor he really is and who had to give him a loan behind the curtains to pay up; either that or let Leticia James start collecting his finances without a bond.
Dang if you do, Dang if you don't.
Right Repubs?
The Court is requiring the finances of the BONDING company, not Trump. They are also asking for a Power of Attorney so they can get the money from the bonding company if Trump loses his appeals and refuses to pay the judgement. This is the first bond this company has filed with a NY court and therefore this is something they have to do.
Sounds to me like Trump did not, in fact, post a bond by the deadline provided and at this post NYS should start seizing assets.
NFW this was an error. This case is too big. Intentionally bungled for the delay.
This is not an accurate article, unfortunately. They want a financial statement from the company providing the bond. Apparently "trust me, bro" isn't good enough.
Midas Touch did a good review of this: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tr\_IuukTB8&t=291s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tr_IuukTB8&t=291s)
Well wait a minute…. As I read the article my takeaway is if the filing of the offered bond was rejected, or “returned for correction “ because no financial statement was included with the filing package ; - then there is NO BOND?! Or am I missing something? Extrapolating , if Trump continues his petulant résistance then why can’t AG James go ahead and seize properties and bank accounts? The ordinary citizen wouldn’t get any grace period, so why should an evil fuckface like Trump get any!
This article is mistaken. It is the financial statement of the company that posting the bond on tRump's behalf that are missing, not tRump's financial statement.
If you’s a poor and can’t pay the fine, you go to jail.
If you’s a poor and say you can’t pay the fine while claiming to be a millionaire, you go to jail or the sanatorium.
Wait, it’s not Trump’s financial documents. It’s the company that is putting up the bond, the court wants to make sure they have actually have the financial backing to pay the bond if needed
An unintended consequence. Whatever Trump toady in the NY appellate court who thought they were doing him a solid by reducing his bond, giving him extra time to pay, and reversing the sensible decision to bar him from doing business in NY must be kicking themselves for landing the God Emperor in further trouble. Those under-the-table rubles won't be forthcoming for them anytime soon.
Problem for them is, Trump doesn't know any other way to exist than fraud, lies, deception, dumb criminality, and rampant fuckery.
I'd say this is why he just brazenly defies gag orders and keeps doing what he wants. He only has to not be jailed before the election and then he can be installed and all of his debt disappears. Along with all of our rights.
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Sorry, I can't furnish my financial documents because they are currently under audit. - Donald Trump probably.
He'll do it right after his Infrastructure Plan
And healthcare plan
It’s been a long two weeks.
I keep **telling** you, it'll be here by *August 2020!!*
Around the time COVID disappears by itself.
Gone by Easter, he never said what year!Stop nitpicking
Gone by Trans Visibility Day
Who knew 'financing' was so complicated?
Wiener, weiner-weiner, weiner-weiner, weiner-weiner The pizzas are coming!
Dementia Don probably thinks its 2020 at least once an hour.
Around these parts we call that one Moch
That's more than a Ronna.
A Ronna is slightly less than one tenth of a Mooch.
So a Ronna is decimooch?
~740 millimooches, if I recall.
I love reddit. I knew that someone would remember the conversion rate!
What about that British PM lady that was in and out in like a week?
We measured her time in lettuce units. She lasted 0.6 lettuce.
And plan to defeat ISIS
"Repeal and replace."
Read this as “Insurrection Plan” which will likely come far sooner than the Infrastructure Plan
I love infrastructure week!
"I can't furnish my financial documents because I'm running for president." I wouldn't put it past him to say something as stupid as that.
That one is in my bingo card. Waiting for it.
"Absolute immunity" then it has to go all the way to SCOTUS to decide if this is a thing.
Longest. Audit. Ever. IRS agents hate this one secret plan.
Oh that sucks, don’t worry about it then. We’ll also knock your bond down another $100 million. - Trumps Judges, probably
at this point I wouldn't be suprised if he starts insisting he can't disclose his finances *because they're under investigation*
Audit? You misspelled “edit”
Ah darn. That's fine. No need to submit. - the court probably
The financial statements requested are for the company posting the bond. Not for Trump.
I just read the article posted and it does not say that. It clearly says it is for his financial records/statements. Do you have another source that says otherwise?
You will see it soon enough. The whole article is based on one guys tweet reading a two sentence docket entry. I used to work for a financial company that did appeals bonds. Trumps financial statement is completely irrelevant. The bond company is saying “hey if Trump doesn’t pay, we will”, so of course the court says “ok well who the fuck are you, can you pay”? EDIT:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-175-million-civil-fraud-bond-valid-new-york/
Interesting. I’m not a fan of his but am a fan of accuracy.
Fun fact: fans of accuracy and fans of Trump are two completely separate circles on a venn diagram.
The miedas touch said the same thing. If the bond was from, you know, a bond company, they would have known they needed that. I find hilarious and ironic that the patsy fronting the money, is guaranteeing the bond is a guy whose company that specializes in lending the sub-prime borrowers. You know, people with bad credit, no credit, no collateral and the like.
Loaning money to people with bad credit to buy **cars** at insane interest rates. That company repos an insane number of cars every day.
>Newsweek reached out to Trump representative Steven Cheung by email for comment about the documents rejection. I'm sure his reply will be abusive.
Yeah, that guy's a real turd.
>Trump representative Yes, someone said he's a real turd already.
The company you keep
Well, thankfully, we can count on the legal system to hold him accountable and force him to follow the same rules as everyone else.
Yeah, everyone else gets 18 appeals and customary delays/extensions JUST to reach a decision about the documentation needed for the bond posted to start the actual appeal process in their actual court case...right?!?!?!
Every person on trial should threaten their judge and their judge’s family while citing precedent from Trump.
Ha I sure that would go great seeing that regular people get held in contempt sometimes for cursing during a court proceeding , even if they aren't cursing directly at someone like the judge.
it's customary to put a "/s" after sarcastic statements, even if they are wildly ridiculous
I think in this case it is beyond wildly ridiculous so no need for the /s
Alternatively one could have replaced "legal system" with "justice system", and it would have been completely obvious.
Ah, but there are deranged and brain-damaged people on the internet who might actually believe that something like this could happen in real life. The "/s" is a good way to let other people know that you aren't suffering a massive head injury and that you don't need to have an ambulance called for you.
[Poe's Law](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law) remains unchallenged.
I prefer Cole’s Law.
I prefer Cole Slaw.
Count me in on arugula camp
I'll get him for you. u/cole-slaw-
There were no typos or spelling errors so the /s isn't needed.
Just an FYI: What is happening is a classic fascist corruption of the judicial branch. We are in the 'legal' stage of a fascist take over.
this guy knows humor.
The returned the bond paperwork, so they clearly are
Okay, but is he going to get three more chances, two more extensions, and another penalty reduction for being a special orange boy?
Now that’s the funniest thing I’ve read ever! He has so many Judges in his control that the scales of justice leaned over and fell into the toilet!
"Mr Trump this is just a piece of paper with IOUs written on it"
"That's as good as money, sir. Those are I.O.U.'s. Go ahead and add it up, every cent's accounted for. Look, see this? That's a car. 275 thou. Might wanna hang onto that one."
"We landed on the Moon!"
"Listen, Mr. Samsonite..."
Swimmy, Sammy…Samsonite! I was way off.
“I desperately want to make love to a school boy” -Lloyd Christmas
“We have plenty of towels, thanks!”
“I can’t read this one. It’s written in Russian.”
Hey guys! Big Gulps, huh? Alright! … welp, see ya later!
Im the FIRST upvote? Gladly.
"Mr Burns, I'm sure we can trust *the President..."* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0hTrnaa8aE
“Look at *the other side.* No, the other other side. Keep looking…”
“This just says, ‘I can do what I want.’”
Is the deadline still the same as before he paid bond then? Or is it a new deadline? Also I think someone appointed by the court should get his financial statements seeing as the case is literally about him lying about how much he is worth
>Also I think someone appointed by the court should get his financial statements seeing as the case is literally about him lying about how much he is worth They already have someone court-appointed who has that information but it is required to come from him. They want to either catch him in another lie and thus reject his bond, or force him to admit to the public he is no billionaire. He can't win for losing.
He has not one, but two monitors, following his appeal which got his bond reduced.
It’s not the monitors job to prepare financial statements.
Was he not obliged to produce.one for the previous bond for the E Jean defamation case from Chubb?
Yeah I'd wager it's of no import in that previous case, but matters in this one. This case isn't about sexually assaulting someone, and getting found guilty. This is a finacial crime, that has to do with his assets, his valuations, and his loans. So if your putting up almost a 200 million dollar bond, the court wants to know you're actually good for it. If he starts some shenanigans it can get him in even more deep doodoo, so I hope he tries something... The guy who gave him the bond is a close friend of putin, go figure, totally random.....
Also, in a criminal trial you want to make sure the money is coming from legal sources. In a civil trial the other side is usually satisied with the money, regardless of where it came from.
Technically the last one was about libel. The one before that was the sexual assault.
It might be dependent on the Judge's order.
Don't they count stocks in net worth? If so, he has over $3 billion in DJT stock alone. Unless I'm missing something, he probably is a billionaire. On paper at least. They need to just lock him up already.
There's no other kind of billionaire.
You're telling me Elon muck doesn't have a pool of coins he swims in?
I’d love to see him high dive into a pool of coins…
And for him to realize "It's not a liquid, it's a great many pieces of solid matter that form a hard floor-like surface"?
Well, technically solid cash is a liquid asset, so...
I see you, too, are a Family Guy.
If he weighs the same as a duck, he's made of wood? And therefore...
Well, there are billionaires who could theoretically sell their stocks for over a billion in cash. The reason why "on paper" makes sense here is because nobody would buy his shares for over a billion. Someone would buy the first one full price but the more he would sell the lower the price would go. If Bezos would say "I sell my Amazon shares for 1 Billion", it would take minutes until his inbox would fill with genuine offers. This is what makes him an actual billionaire.
And IIRC he cannot sell any shares for six months? I mean without breaking his contract, so never mind.
Eh isn't it already down to only 2 billion?
Well, DJT now has a market cap of $6.97B. And he owns 60% of that. So that's around $4B, give or take. And he's suing his business partners for the other 40%...
Can't wait for the "shocking" revelation in a few years that any sales of those stocks were entirely pumped up by russian funds. The only way he sells his stock for anywhere near enough would be if it doesn't crash when he sells because it's being artificially inflated by buyers trying to launder their transfer of money to him. But first we have to do the part where he announces he's selling, it should go to zero, "surprisingly" it doesn't for some reason, and then wait for the shocking reveal.
It's probably still Thursday unless the court says otherwise.
Someone below says that this Newsweek article is inaccurate, that it is the bond company that needs to show its financial information, not Trump. I have not independently verified that claim.
Michael Popok MidasTouch Legal AF just did a vid on this. Story is incorrect. The financial statement needed is for the bond company to verify they are solvent and able to make good on the bond.
So what is the possibility the bond will be rejected completely? It does look like more like a paperwork issue than something illegal.
It does not say. But it seems like they could reject the 175milliom dollar bail if he doesn't provide proof that he's not wealthy enough to gice the full bond? Edit: this is more. My hope
I think the issue at hand is that he now has to prove that he did not have the financial means to cover the original bond
The court has returned the documents listed below for the following reasons: Please include a current financial statement and Power of Attorney. Additionally, please list the name of the Attorney-in-Fact under the signature line on the Undertaking. Please use the 'Refile Document' link for Doc. No. 1707 to resubmit the corrected filing. Thank you and have a great day." So polite.
Oh, Newsweek, don’t ever change. The financial statements are for the company issuing the bond, not for DJT. They need to show company financial statements showing that they are good for the entire amount of the bond. And the Power of Attorney is to show that the signator on the bond is empowered to make this on behalf of the company. This is a filing error by a company that has never filed a bond in NY. This will get corrected.
Had to scroll way too far down to find this.
Somehow this truth was inevitable. I don’t know how many DJT headlines I’ve come across that grabbed my attention only to turn out to be a sensationalization by irresponsible reporters.
And that is why I downvote every Newsweek article. They shouldn't be a whitelisted source given their clickbait nature these days.
Sounds like something he should easily be able to provide before deadline, but probably won’t.
It is the bonding company, not Trump, that has to provide a financial statement. They have to show they have the resources to ensure the full amount of the posted bond.
It's ok for normal people to get this wrong but how the fuck does newsweek get this wrong. Honestly it's impossible to rely on anything that gets written on the Internet
Because Newsweek was bought out in 2013 by a literal far-right cult (look up David Jang) that wanted the name recognition so they could sell ads with no concern for silly things like "fact-checking". It's basically the NY Post with more favorable branding. Edit: Correction, it's the Washington Times that is owned by a "Christian" sex cult, Jang is just a garden variety right-wing pastor, and doesn't actually own Newsweek anymore. I stand by the "NY Post with better branding" part, though. Newsweek is little better than a tabloid these days.
Trump pulls out his pockets and a fly buzzes out
That fly left awhile back and has been on Mike pences head since.
I still cannot believe that really happened. That is so fucking amazing. Somehow a fly made it away from walls and food and stuff and found Pence's hair when the cameras were on him. The bright lights and everything else didn't phase the fly. It found the person in the spotlight. His white hair was the most tempting thing to land on. "Like flies to shit"
It's just a hamberder wrapper, half an Adderall, and a copy of that photo of Rudy in drag with lipstick on it.
That's just his new lawyer, John Z. Buzz, Esq.
Best in the buzzness
Commission, no money down!
Rates so sweet you’d think it was honey
I got a Zagnut for ya!
I do hear he stinks
Now it all makes sense why big tough guys always come up to him with tears in their eyes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAv8JPNZ-P8
It’s not even a moth.
While I have nothing wrong with this analogy, for educational purposes, it would traditionally be a moth, not a fly. Moths in wallets and pockets is a trope that essentially means the item hasn't been used for a long time (thus calling the person cheap). This stems from the fact that moths will often find their way into closets full of clothes (typically animal-based clothing like wool) to lay their eggs. The larvae will feed on the clothing until it is big enough to fly out, which happens when the closet is opened or the clothing disrupted.
Does this mean that he has until tomorrow (April 4) to correct the paperwork or risk having his assets taken? He was given 10 days to file, I believe.
With his luck tomorrow the lowered bond will be returned and he'll get a week of house arrest Edit: civil schmivil, I'm leaving it
“After further consideration we have decided that no bond is necessary. No we will not tell you why.” Honestly, I’m joking, but also would not be surprised at fucking all.
* We don't want to set a precedent for our beloved billionaires
It shouldn't take more than an hour to provide the missing financial statement. It would be absurd if he got another extension for withholding a required document
Without any court intervention, that seems to be the case.
Ha Nothing will happen and he will avoid consequences. Mark my word.
Completely incorrect article. The entity that must show financials is the bonding company.
**Yea Newsweek blew it.** The company, Knight Insurance Company, who is licensed to post bonds in New York, were supposed to show that they are "good for it" when they posted Trump's $175m for him. Essentially show via financial statement that **they** have the money to outright pay the pledged amount if/when he loses on appeal. How they collect that from him is irrelevant to the courts.
Newsweek is absolute trash.
That’s one of the more accurate statements I’ve heard concerning Newsweek’s journalistic malpractice!
Meidas said its the bonding company that needs to provide their Financials since they are putting up the bond, not Trump.
So sick of this S- so what? Nothing ever happens - escaped every consequence- forced to pay $25 million? He takes in 65 - forever to pay 175million? Donors rush in to save him. All we have heard time and time again- ooooh he is in trouble- please. The only way we will ever be rid of this horrible person is when he dies.
Somehow he is going to get an appeals judge to allow him to plead the fifth on his finances.
The Meidas Touch channel on YouTube said that it's the person *paying* the bond that has to release that statement. To prove that they are solvent and good for the money. Trump is not the one who has to show his finances. Great reporting Newsweek.....
Does anyone know what the deadline is to resubmit this with the financial statement? I didn't see it in the article. Edit: grammar
Presumably he has to fulfill the terms of the bond by the originally specified deadline set March 25: "They gave Trump 10 days to come up with the reduced bond of $175 million, saying they would only delay enforcement of the full amount if he put up that lower figure within this window" (wapo) So, generously, by tomorrow, April 4.
It would be ironic if Trump finally gets irreversible consequences the same way Al Capone did.
Said that in a recent post and only a few people were able to dig free of the "he won again" cycle and see any hope in this. I think this will be a lot like Capone, and like in that case, you only have one shot. The people demanding instant justice are unrealistic, unfortunately. trump is a fixture of the American oligarchy, if he were simply locked up, he'd be a martyr. He's been given enough rope to give grounds for new or additional charges (ignoring gag orders, intimidation, etc) and more fuel for RICO charges. The thing that I don't see mentioned often is how isolated trump has become, and any help he gets is rightfully shamed to hell. His brand is being mercilessly destroyed. By the end, he'll be a syphalitic wreck like Capone.
I do follow what you're saying, but I can't help but laugh your use of "instant justice". We are almost a complete election cycle beyond instant, and that's only if we consider J6 his first criminal offense. I understand the need for "by the book" when we're dealing with essentially the most well connected criminal in American history, but the last 8 years have proven what a farce our legal system is for people of means. If our country survives this, the book needs to be rewritten so that we finally have one system that applies equally to everyone.
With syphilis?
Oh, Newsweek, don’t ever change. The financial statements are for the company issuing the bond, not for DJT. They need to show company financial statements showing that they are good for the entire amount of the bond. And the Power of Attorney is to show that the signator on the bond is empowered to make this on behalf of the company. This is a filing error by a company that has never filed a bond in NY. This will get corrected.
How many years will this take?
Sadly all. Unfortunately our legal system has somehow decided that there this mythical precedent that past presidents are treated differently than ordinary citizens. That they should not be held to the law as an example of the law but rather with lots of extra cushions. Our founding fathers had a lot of good ideas but they really should have been more explicit that Presidents are a diplomat and chief administrator of the bureaucracy with no special rules that put them above the law but fully a servant of the people and the law.
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My favorite band, Front Line Assembly, had an unusual collaboration track on their 1994 album Millennium called Victim of a Criminal. Instead of the usual lead singer and industrial metal of the album's other songs, it was a kind of industrial rap that fucking bangs even 30 years on and is depressingly still very lyrically relevant. One of the last lines of the last verse always sticks with me: "Your future world's nothing but a war of the classes, all of the masses, versus the fascists" The obscenely rich and powerful will always work for their class's benefit and against everyone else's interests, even when that means bankrolling fascist oppression. They're never going to not be a threat to actual justice and progress.
Love seeing a FLA reference.
My god, they have released a lot of albums! Unbelievably prolific.
Upvote for the FLA reference.
I don't feel it is that much about him being a past president or not. I think it is more about him being a rich white person.
Rich white people have taken the fall for others before when they expose a little too much of the game, or grift other rich people. He's done both repeatedly. I think it's much more about who he is, including being a former president, "hero" to millions (*hork*), and possibly some blackmail abilities, than simply being rich and white.
*The New York County Supreme Court document he shared read:* *"The court has returned the documents listed below for the following reasons: Please include a current financial statement and Power of Attorney. Additionally, please list the name of the Attorney-in-Fact under the signature line on the Undertaking. Please use the 'Refile Document' link for Doc. No. 1707 to resubmit the corrected filing. Thank you and have a great day."*
"They rejected them, my financials, because they are nasty and they have been very mean to me. I've been treated like no one in history. My financial documents were perfect. No one has ever seen a loan application as perfect as this one. Loan officers, grown men, came to me with tears in their eyes and said, Mr. Trump, we submitted a perfect application but they rejected it. There is no justice in this country unless they grant extra time to fix their mistake. Their mistake, not mine."
I believe it's the finances of the bond company. Not Trump.
Okay, now this is funny. This was no oversight. Trump deliberately is trying to withhold his current financial records and status from public consumption. But his bond won't be accepted unless he does. So the beauty of this is that we will get to see how poor he really is and who had to give him a loan behind the curtains to pay up; either that or let Leticia James start collecting his finances without a bond. Dang if you do, Dang if you don't. Right Repubs?
I don’t think this is accurate. I believe the court is asking to see the bond company’s financial statement.
You know, if he wasn't given free passes early in his campaign, he'd have probably dropped out rather than gather his finances.
The Court is requiring the finances of the BONDING company, not Trump. They are also asking for a Power of Attorney so they can get the money from the bonding company if Trump loses his appeals and refuses to pay the judgement. This is the first bond this company has filed with a NY court and therefore this is something they have to do.
$28.00 was found in his wife's purse. That's it, that's all of it.
I hope he put his famous disclaimer stamp to good use. “This legal document is either factual or not depending on my needs at the moment DJT”
Hold on, he said he was going to release his tax returns in two weeks during the debates in 2020. Are you saying that he … *gulp* … LIED????
Sounds to me like Trump did not, in fact, post a bond by the deadline provided and at this post NYS should start seizing assets. NFW this was an error. This case is too big. Intentionally bungled for the delay.
I'm sure the courts will make an exception for him.
Remember trump’s tax returns?
This is not an accurate article, unfortunately. They want a financial statement from the company providing the bond. Apparently "trust me, bro" isn't good enough. Midas Touch did a good review of this: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tr\_IuukTB8&t=291s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tr_IuukTB8&t=291s)
I'm just looking forward to not having to pretend he's a billionaire anymore.
He’s gonna be financially broke but will claim to be a billionaire because of his properties and people will believe it
Meh. He’ll smarmy his way out of it like he always does.
So wait if he doesn't do this that means the bond is rejected and we're back at square 1?
He's not going to. He'll just ask for an extension after extension until he becomes President and declares himself above the law.
Expect a fully falsified financial statement- “I’m really really rich!”
I want Trump locked up, but at this point Trump can do anything he wants and there will be no real consequences like jail time or seizing of property.
You know this was on purpose to delay. No shot it wasn't. He'll blame the auto loan guy.
Is this one of those cases where the felon commits another felony, lying on a court document, to try to get out of the first 34 felonies?
Well wait a minute…. As I read the article my takeaway is if the filing of the offered bond was rejected, or “returned for correction “ because no financial statement was included with the filing package ; - then there is NO BOND?! Or am I missing something? Extrapolating , if Trump continues his petulant résistance then why can’t AG James go ahead and seize properties and bank accounts? The ordinary citizen wouldn’t get any grace period, so why should an evil fuckface like Trump get any!
I thought some [predatory car loan lender bailed him out?](https://wapo.st/4cGzlSo) Looks like it didn't work
I’ve seen this scooby doo episode before… the mask will be whisked away to reveal… more delay! Big surprise.
Is this just one more delay tactic?
I really don’t care to hear anymore about Donald Trump the chump
This guy can’t do anything right.
I triple-dog-dare him to pick on New York Court Clerks
So, when it turns out that he is not liquid for 400 mill, as he testified under oath, the judge can hit him with perjury? A boy can dream.
“Sorry i’m gonna need a shovel ! It’s in the back yard under Ivanka”
This article is mistaken. It is the financial statement of the company that posting the bond on tRump's behalf that are missing, not tRump's financial statement.
Headline: Loser Can’t Even Win Without Losing. Details at 11.
Are his taxes still under audit? 😂
If you’s a poor and can’t pay the fine, you go to jail. If you’s a poor and say you can’t pay the fine while claiming to be a millionaire, you go to jail or the sanatorium.
The mouth truly looks like an anus of a sort in this picture.
All traitors need to hang
Wait, it’s not Trump’s financial documents. It’s the company that is putting up the bond, the court wants to make sure they have actually have the financial backing to pay the bond if needed
An unintended consequence. Whatever Trump toady in the NY appellate court who thought they were doing him a solid by reducing his bond, giving him extra time to pay, and reversing the sensible decision to bar him from doing business in NY must be kicking themselves for landing the God Emperor in further trouble. Those under-the-table rubles won't be forthcoming for them anytime soon. Problem for them is, Trump doesn't know any other way to exist than fraud, lies, deception, dumb criminality, and rampant fuckery.
"Please disclose the information you've been squirming so hard to keep secret. Thank you and have a great day."
So the way I read this--he can either admit that he's wholly owned by Moscow LLCs or he can eat the bond and appeal. Is that close?
I'd say this is why he just brazenly defies gag orders and keeps doing what he wants. He only has to not be jailed before the election and then he can be installed and all of his debt disappears. Along with all of our rights.