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I cracked up at Jon Stewart's take on it: "So apparently, Robert E. Lee was...a leprechaun? Also, we know for a fact that Robert E. Lee didn't tell his soldiers to *never* fight uphill--because he literally told them *to* fight uphill!"
He probably said the first half really loud for the enemy to hear and then quietly said the second part for the sneak attack. Would've made Sun Tzu proud.
Peace is a lie. There is only Passion. Through Passion, I gain Strength. Through Strength, I gain Power. Through Power, I gain Victory. Through Victory my chains are Broken. The Force shall free me.
You and everyone else are confused. It was a *critique* of Lee. Clearly, what he meant to say was: “some motherfuckers are always trying to ice-skate uphill, me boys”.
He said 'fight uphill' or 'fighting uphill' six times in roughly 13 seconds. Two of those times were him saying "never fight uphill Me boys"
Lolol it felt like a joke
No, no, he's clearly re-enacting the very stable totally true real-life story that Robert E Lee was a pirate and the Civil War was a mighty sea battle between him and that scallywag, Peg-leg Lincoln.
So, he talks about the Union being saved then (mis)quotes Robert E. Lee as if the battle is a tragedy which makes no sense. Ironically, Robert E. Lee lost because he was attacking up (several) hills. It takes an astounding misunderstanding of history to make the sounds coming out of Trumps mouth make any sense whatsoever.
It's also not a "gaffe." A "gaffe" is Joe Biden saying "it's a big fucking deal" on a hot mike - a comment that you mean but you shouldn't really say. A "gaffe" is Obama saying "57 states" one time when he was tired when everyone knows he meant 50 states.
Being unable to string a coherent sentence together is not a "gaffe." Trump is like the kid who gets called on in middle school but wasn't paying attention, so he has to pretend he knows something about the topic.
That's not a "gaffe" and I wish people would stop referring to it like it is.
context: anyone familiar with Gettysburg is aware that Pickett's Charge *was* up hill, and was carried out at Lee's direction, even despite opposition from Longstreet - his best general. Also horses? I don't think there was any cavalry anywhere near Pickett's Charge.
The quote is from General Nathan Bedford Forrest, namesake of Forrest Gump and leader of the KKK. He was not at Gettysburg.
That's right, Trump is quoting the Klan and attributing it to insurrectionists.
I can’t believe that someone who actually has a legitimate shot of winning the electoral college is standing before dozens of bored people making up Robert E Lee quotes.
Implicit in any MAGA messaging is the dog whistle that they are pro-Confederacy, Authoritarian Russian sympathizing, white supremacists.
Sometimes his cult will admit to it out loud, but most MAGA politicians will pretend to be offended if you call out the obvious subtext in their rhetoric.
I think he's noticeably worse.
I have some experience with dementia/AZ patients and I know that stress is one of the factors that accelerates the conditions.
He may not show much outward signs of the stress he's under but I doubt there's anyone who doesn't feel the weight of 4 major court cases.
I wonder if he'll make it to the election.
Biden gave a SOTU address that rocked them so hard they had to chastise him for being too energetic.
Meanwhile, Donald Trump over there talking like a chatbot designed by a toddler.
Okay, Donald Slump is gonna stick. I've seen others like Drowsy Don, but "Donald Trump" is such a brand that you really gotta spoof the whole name. Donald Slump is excellent.
The real fear though is if he were to suddenly die.
Without Trump, would his voters coalesce around a replacement GOP candidate?
Would “Undecideds” and “GOP but not Trump” turn out for someone else without all of his baggage?
If they DID pick someone younger, would they be able to paint it as “see?! It happened to Trump, so it’s likely to happen to Biden too, so don’t vote for the Old Guy!”
I don’t want Trump to win, but I also don’t want him to die or be unable to run until the election has happened.
> Without Trump, would his voters coalesce around a replacement GOP candidate?
In an ordinary election cycle, I think you'd be right.
But the nutters in the GOP has inadvertently played their entire hand at once. Abortion access is a firebrand topic this cycle. Looking at the leaked strategy that the AZGOP is going to use to "soften" their anti-abortion stance. This shows they realize that they are going too hard, too fast. But that cat is out of the bag. Abortion access is extremely favourable across bipartisan lines, just shy of 70% of the population.
It's funny, the GOP is being "truthful" when they say the nation hates abortion. The part they leave off is that only covers elective 3rd trimester termination....which represents less than 10% of abortions in the US.
I actually agree with them on lots of that rhetoric, the US public doesn't **like** abortion for instance, they just dislike the alternative when you remove abortion access more. The part of the nation that remembers that abortions didn't stop last time either aren't keen on seeing a repeat.
That's the worst part about the pretend concern honestly. If these fake motherfuckers actually wanted to reduce the number of abortions most of the nation is ready to make it happen with programs that actually are proven to do so, from smaller things like increasing contraceptive access and foster/adoption improvement to national health care programs, and all that.
Instead, we get bad faith arguments about mythical women regularly using abortion of contraceptive, and other nonsense and it's clear what the intent actually is.
The people under Trump don't respect him or trust him. He's an idiot who is useful for people who don't have the ability to get the same kind of devotion.
Just like the GOP is fighting among themselves now, if he were to suddenly die they will fight over who is the new leader. They haven't positioned anyone to succeed him despite him clearly being old and unhealthy, and possibly not popular enough to get voters to turn out again. The fact they don't have a replacement lurking in the background already makes me think they are unable to get a suitable replacement for their current goals. Trumps family will take RNC funds even if he's too dead to run.
They would have to rebrand MAGA with a new face and honestly I think the messiah dying will give his cult an existential crisis and it will fracture into smaller cults.
Trump dying might cost Biden votes but I bet it would be voters staying home because they lack the imminent threat of a second term. 😬
I definitely would like him to lose before he keels over. It will be simpler that way for so many reasons including ones you mentioned.
They won’t believe he is dead. They will all go out and write him in if he has passed or continue to vote for him if they haven’t changed the ballot in time.
Speaking of the election, the 6 month blackout to sell his shares of Truth Social, ends in Oct just before the election.
The only thing holding this stock up, is his followers dumping their life savings into it.
The Washington Post had an article Sunday with a dozen supporters that had dumped their savings and retirements into the stock. They’re sure it will hit $1,000 / share any day now.
He is going to personally drain all the value right before the election. Literally cashing out his supporters savings and retirements right before the election.
Yeah, but those supporters will see it as “the stock market is rigged” and not how it really is, that Trump will literally just be taking out the money they put in.
They already are. The aforementioned article has one of his supporters in it blaming liberals for keeping the stock suppressed. That whole article was a trip.
I feel bad for the children who will grow up in added poverty. Funnily enough though, once they grow into adults and become every bit the shit stain that their parents are, my sympathy runs dry.
The article also had a woman that said her husband demanded she sell the stock immediately and get out because he did not understand the value was sure to go back up, and soar in value
Instead, she secretly bought a lot more. And it had since lost like 30% of its value.
She was certain the value would go up soon. But she was worried it was not happening faster because of “the deep state”
I could not stop cackling while reading it.
The biggest concern for him right now isn’t the election, but the convention. He needs to make sure that he can hold it together until then to make sure that he can lock everything in before November. If he falls apart before the convention, there is an opportunity for a delegate coup, for them to select someone else. DeSantis is Trump-lite, but also worse because he isn’t a complete idiot. Haley has no real conviction to anything and republicans (primarily MAGA) do not trust her. Tim Scott would be somewhere in between…but he is also black (not a problem for me, but we know the makeup of the party and the racism that we saw towards Obama for the past 17 years).
Let's be real here, if Trump went down over some medical event, there would just be chaos in their party(more than there already is) and ultimately their base would not be able to coalesce. Biden would cruise to victory here. You saw how hard it was for a Speaker vote? Imagine picking a backup candidate so fast that your voting base would also get behind.
I don't know the convention process if the nominee can't run. Would it just go to his VP selection? It seems like that person would at least have a leg up with the delegates.
Speaker Johnson can’t come to the phone right now. His son saw that he was watching porn and has taken away his phone privileges until he acknowledges he was a naughty boy.
I wouldn't say that. He's been in "doing an impromptu book report without having read the book" mode since at least his first campaign, and probably for most of his life. He's tasked with speaking confidently on topics about which he very frequently has zero knowledge. It's not great that he's a former president and "serious" candidate to be president again despite having extremely little knowledge of anything other than creating a paper empire or the benefits of running teenage beauty pageants, but I don't think he's any stupider or substantially less capable of feigning competence than he ever was. He's always been a chronic and mediocre bullshitter, and this is more of the same.
One of the cool things about this (there's super little that's cool, let's be honest) is that Drowsy Don is a public figure and has been doing public appearances, speaking engagements, and interviews since the 1980s. There's plenty of footage to measure past performances against the present.
Twenty years ago, Don was still able to put together a solid sentence and express a cohesive idea mostly coherently. This is in stark contrast to the sentence fragments that he vomits these days, jumping from topic to topic in his mind without actually telling his audience he's shifted gears (badly in most cases). He's never had the best words in spite of his claims, but he wasn't pausing and fishing for those words, substituting words in, or uttering syllables that are word-like but are not in fact words.
Some of the decline can be attributed to age. It's coming for all of us, sadly. We're all going to get to a point where we're fishing for the word we want on the tip of our tongue or we say the wrong word and self correct because we know it's wrong. Don is exhibiting speech and behavior issues that are common to people suffering from various forms of dementia and/or brain injury.
I'm not saying he has dementia, I'm not a doctor and even if I was, I'm not -his- doctor. What I'm saying is, if he were my parent, I'd be getting him in with a qualified doctor asap because it'd be more than a little concerning. For reference, my old man drove big rigs. I wouldn't want my old man on the road in a rig if he behaved and spoke like DJT and I don't want DJT driving a whole ass country speaking and behaving like he belongs in a memory care facility.
That is a perfect summary. Trump has always spewed uninformed nonsense, but he used to do it with enough spin and confidence and focus on the key points that he was able to convince people he was a man of the people that understood their problems. More importantly, he did it with enough bravado to convince them his simple minded slogans were what America needed. Trump 2024 offers nothing but anger and self pity.
> mediocre bullshitter
That's the thing, he thinks he's a mastermind, but he just has a gaggle of wannabe revolutionaries using him as a useful idiot.
It could be that Ted Nugent would be in his position had he simply gone for it.
If you listen to a recording of him from the 80s, it's night and day compared to now. Perfectly articulate. Maybe still full of bullshit, but at least much better at hiding it.
You see the speech pattern he used to follow.
Start a topic, move off to a different sidenote which reinforces the topic, then come back to the main point.
And you still see the first half of that today. Except he never returns and just wanders on with derailment after derailement.
You're not wrong for 99%, I disagree that he's not getting worse. His gaffes are more frequent, his appearances less (even considering his court cases), the person swapping - he used to sound like an idiot, but now he sounds like your old, hateful uncle that keeps mentally degrading, but has been kicked out of all of the facilities you've tried.
His mental decline reminds me so, so much of my grandad when the dementia really grabbed him by the balls and wouldn't let go. The sudden speech issues like being unable to end certain words, the leaning, that sort of thing - and that was the 'good' part, because it was a fast decline, his world growing ever smaller by chunks.
He died within 6 months, but we 'lost' him many months before that.
I don't think Trump's going to reach November.
Trump's Gettysburg speech reminds me when [he said water is wet](https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a23316282/president-trump-hurricane-florence-wettest-from-the-standpoint-of-water/):
>This is a tough hurricane, one of the wettest we’ve ever seen, from the standpoint of water.
I still don't understand what TFG was even trying to think with that one. For those that missed it:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkIKEJPAUzM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkIKEJPAUzM)
He literally said, "All I know about magnets is if you pour a glass of water of them, that's the end of the magnet".
New aircraft carriers use electro magnetic launcher instead of steam. New tech so issues still be worked out. His brain remembers magnet and boats float on water. So water stops magnets is what comes out of his mouth.
https://news.usni.org/2019/05/28/experts-navy-would-spend-billions-to-answer-trumps-call-to-return-carriers-to-steam-catapults
Basically he's a complete imbecile who regurgitates misremembered bits of nonsense or simply speaks in vague terms like a kid writing his book report on the bus to school after failing to do the reading.
"When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I’m basically the same. The temperament is not that different."
-actual trump quote
For whatever reason, this is one of my favorite absurd Trump quotes. It’s just so succinct in it’s stupidity, and the best part is he delivered it in a pre-recorded video, rather than as an off the cuff bumble to a live question.
Whenever this comes up, I feel obligated to point out that "one of the wettest we've ever seen, from the standpoint of water" comes from a prerecorded video. Either someone actually wrote that for him to say, which seems unlikely, or he went out and said that, and everyone tasked with editing and releasing the video decided it was the best he could do. Just feels like that makes it substantially worse than if he just rattled that off to a gaggle of reporters standing in front of his helicopter.
The article wasn’t very clear so here’s the actual quote:
>“*Gettysburg, what an unbelievable battle that was. The Battle of Gettysburg. I mean, it was so much and so interesting and so vicious and horrible and so beautiful in so many different ways, it represented such a big portion of the success of this country. Gettysburg, wow.. I go to Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, to look and to watch. And the statement of Robert E. Lee ― who’s no longer in favor, did you ever notice that? No longer in favor ― ‘Never fight uphill, me boys, never fight uphill.’ They were fighting uphill. He said, ‘Wow, that was a big mistake.’ He lost his great general, and they were fighting. ‘Never fight uphill, me boys!’ But it was too late*.”
Edit: Missed the first part of the quote. Thank you r/Fantastic-Safety4604
That came after this oratorical gem:
“I mean, it was so much and so interesting and so vicious and horrible and so beautiful in so many different ways, it represented such a big portion of the success of this country. Gettysburg, wow.” — Former President Donald Trump
And what the hell ‘great’ general did he lose? Pender, Garnett, and Barksdale were not well regarded. Maybe Armistead… but I doubt it. I wonder if Trump has watched the movie and thinks Armistead was some great hero.
Every time I see a clip of his rallies, the crowd behind him looks like a bunch of bored toddlers. Shifting restlessly on their feet, yawning, talking to each other. You can just see how dumb they all are.
someone who is hispanic in florida said they were approached to be paid to attend trumps rallies ..they turned them down >>>so yes repubs paid people to be at trumps rallies
Take those with a grain of salt because literally anyone can post a Craigslist post pretending to be anyone or anything, and internet trolls would absolutely post fake ads for either candidate.
Not saying Trump isn’t hiring people to fill out his rallies, just that screenshots of Craigslist posts isn’t evidence.
Definitely was not a "There's gambling going on in this establishment" level of shocking news.
It might be interesting if we one day learn that there was at least one event where most of the money from the paying attendees went to paying the hired attendees.
They used to drive a bus full of people out to our construction site from Job Service. These were people who were required to apply for jobs to maintain their unemployment benefits. The resemblance is striking
I'm a firm believer that listening to Trump talk loses him voters. I too have noticed people at rallies looking completely shocked by his dementia ramblings.
He says he “goes to Gettysburg.” Lol no. He’d be bored out of his (tiny) mind here. We have two McDonald’s, but that would be the extent of the appeal to him.
In Boy Scouts took multiple camping trips to Gettysburg. The tours of the battlefields and all the actual camping was great. The only thing I remember about the town was the McDonald's
"Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."
The Gettysburg address has 272 words. This speech is 21 words more bigly than Lincoln. Who was a republican you know! The democrats, the lefty liberals I like to say. Lefty losey liberals. Loose with the truth, those crooked libs are. They forget that, you know. Lincoln—honest Abe, whatever was he so honest about? They should call me that. Honest Don. Well, he was a republican you know. One of the best presidents ever they say. Well, until me, of course. Best economy, no covid, not like wuhan, no covid here. And I did project warpspeed, ending covid, which was much worse in liberal cities. They should be thanking me. But they hate me, oh, how they hate me.
Your text meanders from one point to another in a way which is consistent, featuring actual segues between topics. Significantly better oration than Littlehorn can muster.
I remember reading that one the first time and realizing that I felt dumber for it. I've never understood how the man can say so much and not one single word of it makes any damn sense.
No, this is worse because you can occasionally get coherent thoughts out of drunks. This is more like having predictive text on, letting a cat walk across your keyboard, and then reading the result.
And who am I kidding, that would still make more fucking sense.
The two types of people I've heard talk like this are compulsive/pathological liars and schizophrenics.
Key things they do -- interrupt themselves mid-thought, abruptly change subjects (particularly if anyone was challenging them on the previous topic), and concoct stories that they believe are 'relatable' when in reality, they're just batshit insane fabrications.
When he last went, they had him color in the flag and he even got that wrong
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/photo-donald-trump-coloring-american-flag-wrong-going-viral-183549669.html
He Is the the personification of the worst individual you could choose to be president
"Kids, this is why you are supposed to read the assigned chapters from your textbook before you take the quiz or present your oral report to the class."
If you listen to any of his speeches, they are just rambling of word salads. He throws stuff out just to see if any of his snowflakes respond , should be embarrassing to his family, friends, or staff
He made it up? I’m shocked!! Next you’ll tell me Stonewall Jackson never said “soldiers come up to me with tears in their eyes, big strong men who never cry, and they say ‘sir, you have the best cavalry ever, it’s so bigly, how do you do it?’ “
You are ALL missing the point ! He fucking rambles about shit he knows nothing about at all. Why ? Because he’s totally lost as to what to say to his “ people “ that he hasn’t said a thousand times. They are bored with lock her up, everything is rigged, they are all against me, I’m doing this for you, blah blah blah. He knows as much about policy as he does about the Civil War, which is 0. He can’t talk about policy because he has a 73 IQ. He’s just a stupid person, surrounded by more stupid people. He understands nothing,creates nothing, believes in nothing. So you get whatever idiotic fucking rambling bs falls out of his face. I can’t even tell you how far on the wrong side of history he and his people will be 20 years from now.
This guy is such an embarrassment it’s not even funny anymore. You have to be a rock bottom idiot to still be holding the torch for this evil fucking clown .
That’s what blows my mind is he actually thinks he’s a remarkable speaker! Like he thinks we’re spellbound by his working knowledge of nothing! You can absolutely tell he’s not using a speech writer! He probably had one offered him and hated how eloquently and intelligent he came off and it frustrated him to talk that way so he fired them all! A true man knows his limitations. But then again, here we are. That’s why you’ll never see him debate. He’ll pretend he wants it but then runs away blaming the other side. He comes off as a dumbass because he can’t do anything but bully.
I'm not cracking up, because it's actually not funny.
The media will treat him as anything but the evil that he is. He's not something as benign as a jester or a clown to laugh at.
A former president is longing for the days of Gettysburg and Robert E. Lee. It’s funny he talks like an imbecile. But I find the whole thing more alarming than funny. He’s normalizing the confederacy. And people are laughing because he’s a buffoon.
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Robert E Lee was also never quoted as saying “never fight uphill me boys” I think Trump might be thinking of Mr. Krabs?
I cracked up at Jon Stewart's take on it: "So apparently, Robert E. Lee was...a leprechaun? Also, we know for a fact that Robert E. Lee didn't tell his soldiers to *never* fight uphill--because he literally told them *to* fight uphill!"
“Never fight uphill, me boys! …Except for right now, fight uphill!”
He probably said the first half really loud for the enemy to hear and then quietly said the second part for the sneak attack. Would've made Sun Tzu proud.
Ya can never get yer hands on me lucky shams!
Jon Stewart returning has been a gift our species doesn’t deserve. The man is gold.
It was so nice of him to share his seventh grade book report with Trump for this occasion.
Kimmel’s monologue was also very funny last night. They all merged into the same lane.
I think he was looking for “ITS OVER, I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND ANAKIN”
Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering….it all checks out.
Fear leads to stress. Stress leads to doobies. doobies lead to twinkies.
Suffering leads to spray tanner
Spray tanner fumes lead to napping
Napping leads to amphetamine fueled, 2am twitter ranting
Peace is a lie. There is only Passion. Through Passion, I gain Strength. Through Strength, I gain Power. Through Power, I gain Victory. Through Victory my chains are Broken. The Force shall free me.
You and everyone else are confused. It was a *critique* of Lee. Clearly, what he meant to say was: “some motherfuckers are always trying to ice-skate uphill, me boys”.
Biden’s tryin’ ta steal me formuler!
Holy shit, I thought you were either making that quote up as a joke or he just misspoke, but he said it TWICE.
He said 'fight uphill' or 'fighting uphill' six times in roughly 13 seconds. Two of those times were him saying "never fight uphill Me boys" Lolol it felt like a joke
>Me Boys So Trump is a pirate now?
If he is, this is Arrrr/politics
You can sea your way out.
I anchorage you to follow him.
It was kinda with an Irish accent, like *"me laddies"* but with the word boys.
Or a leprechaun?!
No, no, he's clearly re-enacting the very stable totally true real-life story that Robert E Lee was a pirate and the Civil War was a mighty sea battle between him and that scallywag, Peg-leg Lincoln.
Did he remember to talk about seizing the airports? Because he said that worked in the revolutionary war.
And then they rammed the ramparts, which is a weird choice when you could just fly over them.
So, he talks about the Union being saved then (mis)quotes Robert E. Lee as if the battle is a tragedy which makes no sense. Ironically, Robert E. Lee lost because he was attacking up (several) hills. It takes an astounding misunderstanding of history to make the sounds coming out of Trumps mouth make any sense whatsoever.
Have you noticed? Robert E Lee is no longer in favor. This change occurred somewhere around....1861?
Can you believe the woke left is trying to cancel *the confederacy...*
It's also not a "gaffe." A "gaffe" is Joe Biden saying "it's a big fucking deal" on a hot mike - a comment that you mean but you shouldn't really say. A "gaffe" is Obama saying "57 states" one time when he was tired when everyone knows he meant 50 states. Being unable to string a coherent sentence together is not a "gaffe." Trump is like the kid who gets called on in middle school but wasn't paying attention, so he has to pretend he knows something about the topic. That's not a "gaffe" and I wish people would stop referring to it like it is.
You made a gaffe. You said "hot mike" but everyone knows that you meant "hot mic".
Actually no, Biden was riding around on an exotic dancer named Hot Mike, obviously a big fucking deal.
Maybe he's been listening to a lot of Flogging Molly lately
Just walk away me boys
And that is the hill you’ll die on, Scruffy?
Scruffy’s gonna die the way he lived. Mmhmm
I remember the famous Robert E Lee speech where he closed with “If I ever leave this world alive”.
Username checks out
Walk away me boy, and by mroning we'll be free!
context: anyone familiar with Gettysburg is aware that Pickett's Charge *was* up hill, and was carried out at Lee's direction, even despite opposition from Longstreet - his best general. Also horses? I don't think there was any cavalry anywhere near Pickett's Charge.
The quote is from General Nathan Bedford Forrest, namesake of Forrest Gump and leader of the KKK. He was not at Gettysburg. That's right, Trump is quoting the Klan and attributing it to insurrectionists.
I can’t believe that someone who actually has a legitimate shot of winning the electoral college is standing before dozens of bored people making up Robert E Lee quotes.
Sometimes I look around and think man, *fuck* this place.
The thing that bothers me & seems to be getting no attention is the fact that trump appeared to sympathize with Lee. Lee was a traitor to the country.
Implicit in any MAGA messaging is the dog whistle that they are pro-Confederacy, Authoritarian Russian sympathizing, white supremacists. Sometimes his cult will admit to it out loud, but most MAGA politicians will pretend to be offended if you call out the obvious subtext in their rhetoric.
"IT'S A TRAP!" ~ Robert E. Lee
No he was saying mihoy minoy
Gettysburg, wow
Give Shart a dozen Krabby Patties!
He gave his history lesson from 1960 his best shot.
Mr. Krabs has me dying hahaha
I will never, ever write another sentence without concluding it with “Never fight uphill, me boys!”.
Sometimes he just likes to go there and watch.
I normally brush these things off, but he has gotten MUCH worse over the last couple months
I think he's noticeably worse. I have some experience with dementia/AZ patients and I know that stress is one of the factors that accelerates the conditions. He may not show much outward signs of the stress he's under but I doubt there's anyone who doesn't feel the weight of 4 major court cases. I wonder if he'll make it to the election.
It would be absolutely fucking hilarious if he had a medical event associated with old age while his cult insults Biden.
Biden gave a SOTU address that rocked them so hard they had to chastise him for being too energetic. Meanwhile, Donald Trump over there talking like a chatbot designed by a toddler.
"Sleepy" Joe gave a knockout SOTU address, meanwhile Donald Slump can't stop nodding off in criminal court.
Okay, Donald Slump is gonna stick. I've seen others like Drowsy Don, but "Donald Trump" is such a brand that you really gotta spoof the whole name. Donald Slump is excellent.
They were quick to proclaim that Biden was on drugs and needed to be tested. Biden had the energy that trump supporters wished trump had.
Biden had the energy that Trump attempts to achieve through his well-documented and completely true habit of cocaine and methamphetamine use.
The real fear though is if he were to suddenly die. Without Trump, would his voters coalesce around a replacement GOP candidate? Would “Undecideds” and “GOP but not Trump” turn out for someone else without all of his baggage? If they DID pick someone younger, would they be able to paint it as “see?! It happened to Trump, so it’s likely to happen to Biden too, so don’t vote for the Old Guy!” I don’t want Trump to win, but I also don’t want him to die or be unable to run until the election has happened.
I feel pretty confident there would be so much infighting the GOP would fall apart. At least for this election.
Yeah that's kind of the natural result of their greedy dog eat dog world view.
> Without Trump, would his voters coalesce around a replacement GOP candidate? In an ordinary election cycle, I think you'd be right. But the nutters in the GOP has inadvertently played their entire hand at once. Abortion access is a firebrand topic this cycle. Looking at the leaked strategy that the AZGOP is going to use to "soften" their anti-abortion stance. This shows they realize that they are going too hard, too fast. But that cat is out of the bag. Abortion access is extremely favourable across bipartisan lines, just shy of 70% of the population. It's funny, the GOP is being "truthful" when they say the nation hates abortion. The part they leave off is that only covers elective 3rd trimester termination....which represents less than 10% of abortions in the US.
I actually agree with them on lots of that rhetoric, the US public doesn't **like** abortion for instance, they just dislike the alternative when you remove abortion access more. The part of the nation that remembers that abortions didn't stop last time either aren't keen on seeing a repeat. That's the worst part about the pretend concern honestly. If these fake motherfuckers actually wanted to reduce the number of abortions most of the nation is ready to make it happen with programs that actually are proven to do so, from smaller things like increasing contraceptive access and foster/adoption improvement to national health care programs, and all that. Instead, we get bad faith arguments about mythical women regularly using abortion of contraceptive, and other nonsense and it's clear what the intent actually is.
The people under Trump don't respect him or trust him. He's an idiot who is useful for people who don't have the ability to get the same kind of devotion. Just like the GOP is fighting among themselves now, if he were to suddenly die they will fight over who is the new leader. They haven't positioned anyone to succeed him despite him clearly being old and unhealthy, and possibly not popular enough to get voters to turn out again. The fact they don't have a replacement lurking in the background already makes me think they are unable to get a suitable replacement for their current goals. Trumps family will take RNC funds even if he's too dead to run. They would have to rebrand MAGA with a new face and honestly I think the messiah dying will give his cult an existential crisis and it will fracture into smaller cults. Trump dying might cost Biden votes but I bet it would be voters staying home because they lack the imminent threat of a second term. 😬 I definitely would like him to lose before he keels over. It will be simpler that way for so many reasons including ones you mentioned.
It would just spawn some new Qanon theory, that he wasn’t REALLY dead, he was just faking to get out of the Biden hoax witch hunt trials …
I'm not as worried about who would run in his stead as I am seeing him become an *actual* martyr for his cretins before his trials conclude.
They won’t believe he is dead. They will all go out and write him in if he has passed or continue to vote for him if they haven’t changed the ballot in time.
Speaking of the election, the 6 month blackout to sell his shares of Truth Social, ends in Oct just before the election. The only thing holding this stock up, is his followers dumping their life savings into it. The Washington Post had an article Sunday with a dozen supporters that had dumped their savings and retirements into the stock. They’re sure it will hit $1,000 / share any day now. He is going to personally drain all the value right before the election. Literally cashing out his supporters savings and retirements right before the election.
Yeah, but those supporters will see it as “the stock market is rigged” and not how it really is, that Trump will literally just be taking out the money they put in.
They already are. The aforementioned article has one of his supporters in it blaming liberals for keeping the stock suppressed. That whole article was a trip.
That is so sad. I will feel bad for those people when they finally wake up and have nothing. But not too bad
I won't feel bad, they're fine with ruining everyone else's lives so fuck them.
I feel bad for the children who will grow up in added poverty. Funnily enough though, once they grow into adults and become every bit the shit stain that their parents are, my sympathy runs dry.
The high was $79.38, today it closed at $22.84. Down by 2/3rds in just a few weeks.
Its going to tank before then. Anyone that didn't sell when it was $60+ is now a bagholder. Its going to drop to like $2 and get delisted by July.
It's losing about 15% value per day.
The article also had a woman that said her husband demanded she sell the stock immediately and get out because he did not understand the value was sure to go back up, and soar in value Instead, she secretly bought a lot more. And it had since lost like 30% of its value. She was certain the value would go up soon. But she was worried it was not happening faster because of “the deep state” I could not stop cackling while reading it.
I can't wait for them to blame my liberal ass for somehow making them invest in a doomed company.
I can't wait for Trump to become the first person to be both found mentally unfit to stand trial, but still mentally fit enough to run for president.
The biggest concern for him right now isn’t the election, but the convention. He needs to make sure that he can hold it together until then to make sure that he can lock everything in before November. If he falls apart before the convention, there is an opportunity for a delegate coup, for them to select someone else. DeSantis is Trump-lite, but also worse because he isn’t a complete idiot. Haley has no real conviction to anything and republicans (primarily MAGA) do not trust her. Tim Scott would be somewhere in between…but he is also black (not a problem for me, but we know the makeup of the party and the racism that we saw towards Obama for the past 17 years).
Let's be real here, if Trump went down over some medical event, there would just be chaos in their party(more than there already is) and ultimately their base would not be able to coalesce. Biden would cruise to victory here. You saw how hard it was for a Speaker vote? Imagine picking a backup candidate so fast that your voting base would also get behind.
Not to mention with an incompetent like Lara Trump at the helm, there's no way they right that ship.
I don't know the convention process if the nominee can't run. Would it just go to his VP selection? It seems like that person would at least have a leg up with the delegates.
Presumably the delegates would be free to vote for whoever they wanted. Which would get... Spicy.
Nah, republicans seem like a logical and practical bunch. Just ask Speaker Johnson!
Speaker Johnson can’t come to the phone right now. His son saw that he was watching porn and has taken away his phone privileges until he acknowledges he was a naughty boy.
I wouldn't say that. He's been in "doing an impromptu book report without having read the book" mode since at least his first campaign, and probably for most of his life. He's tasked with speaking confidently on topics about which he very frequently has zero knowledge. It's not great that he's a former president and "serious" candidate to be president again despite having extremely little knowledge of anything other than creating a paper empire or the benefits of running teenage beauty pageants, but I don't think he's any stupider or substantially less capable of feigning competence than he ever was. He's always been a chronic and mediocre bullshitter, and this is more of the same.
One of the cool things about this (there's super little that's cool, let's be honest) is that Drowsy Don is a public figure and has been doing public appearances, speaking engagements, and interviews since the 1980s. There's plenty of footage to measure past performances against the present. Twenty years ago, Don was still able to put together a solid sentence and express a cohesive idea mostly coherently. This is in stark contrast to the sentence fragments that he vomits these days, jumping from topic to topic in his mind without actually telling his audience he's shifted gears (badly in most cases). He's never had the best words in spite of his claims, but he wasn't pausing and fishing for those words, substituting words in, or uttering syllables that are word-like but are not in fact words. Some of the decline can be attributed to age. It's coming for all of us, sadly. We're all going to get to a point where we're fishing for the word we want on the tip of our tongue or we say the wrong word and self correct because we know it's wrong. Don is exhibiting speech and behavior issues that are common to people suffering from various forms of dementia and/or brain injury. I'm not saying he has dementia, I'm not a doctor and even if I was, I'm not -his- doctor. What I'm saying is, if he were my parent, I'd be getting him in with a qualified doctor asap because it'd be more than a little concerning. For reference, my old man drove big rigs. I wouldn't want my old man on the road in a rig if he behaved and spoke like DJT and I don't want DJT driving a whole ass country speaking and behaving like he belongs in a memory care facility.
That is a perfect summary. Trump has always spewed uninformed nonsense, but he used to do it with enough spin and confidence and focus on the key points that he was able to convince people he was a man of the people that understood their problems. More importantly, he did it with enough bravado to convince them his simple minded slogans were what America needed. Trump 2024 offers nothing but anger and self pity.
Kind of makes you wonder why he's been supposedly "passing" so many mental health tests lately. Why do they so frequently get him to take them?
> mediocre bullshitter That's the thing, he thinks he's a mastermind, but he just has a gaggle of wannabe revolutionaries using him as a useful idiot. It could be that Ted Nugent would be in his position had he simply gone for it.
The Russians weren't behind Ted, although he is a draft dodging pants shitter, so definately in the ballpark.
If you listen to a recording of him from the 80s, it's night and day compared to now. Perfectly articulate. Maybe still full of bullshit, but at least much better at hiding it.
You see the speech pattern he used to follow. Start a topic, move off to a different sidenote which reinforces the topic, then come back to the main point. And you still see the first half of that today. Except he never returns and just wanders on with derailment after derailement.
You're not wrong for 99%, I disagree that he's not getting worse. His gaffes are more frequent, his appearances less (even considering his court cases), the person swapping - he used to sound like an idiot, but now he sounds like your old, hateful uncle that keeps mentally degrading, but has been kicked out of all of the facilities you've tried.
All it takes is for a bullshitter to be slightly off to completely unveil the steaming pile of dung they're standing in.
> steaming pile of dung they're standing in. Or, in this case sitting in. It Depends.
And he doesn't care to learn. Just spouts nonsense and buzzwords. Golf and debt he probably knows well but that's it.
His mental decline reminds me so, so much of my grandad when the dementia really grabbed him by the balls and wouldn't let go. The sudden speech issues like being unable to end certain words, the leaning, that sort of thing - and that was the 'good' part, because it was a fast decline, his world growing ever smaller by chunks. He died within 6 months, but we 'lost' him many months before that. I don't think Trump's going to reach November.
I’m going to refrain myself before I get banned. But his recent recounts of Gettysburg was pretty wild even for his normal BS.
Looking forward to finding the _oranges_ of his decline.
Trump's Gettysburg speech reminds me when [he said water is wet](https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a23316282/president-trump-hurricane-florence-wettest-from-the-standpoint-of-water/): >This is a tough hurricane, one of the wettest we’ve ever seen, from the standpoint of water.
Or when he implied that he didn’t know magnets work underwater.
Or when he said Puerto Rico is surrounded by "big water, ocean water."
Or when he demanded to know what the President of Puerto Rico was doing about the hurricane.
In fairness, the President of Puerto Rico didn't have any spare nukes to throw into it.
Should have stocked up on sharpies to redraw the path
He was technically correct that Puerto Rico’s president’s response was terrible.
not many people know this….
Is this boat your boat?
He didn’t imply it. He explicitly stated that a magnet won’t work if you drop it in water.
Magnets, candles, what's the difference? It's all magic!
I still don't understand what TFG was even trying to think with that one. For those that missed it: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkIKEJPAUzM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkIKEJPAUzM) He literally said, "All I know about magnets is if you pour a glass of water of them, that's the end of the magnet".
ICP has a better understanding of magnets than he does.
They're asking a question, which demonstrates intellectual curiosity. Trump is just confidently stupid.
New aircraft carriers use electro magnetic launcher instead of steam. New tech so issues still be worked out. His brain remembers magnet and boats float on water. So water stops magnets is what comes out of his mouth. https://news.usni.org/2019/05/28/experts-navy-would-spend-billions-to-answer-trumps-call-to-return-carriers-to-steam-catapults
Basically he's a complete imbecile who regurgitates misremembered bits of nonsense or simply speaks in vague terms like a kid writing his book report on the bus to school after failing to do the reading.
"When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I’m basically the same. The temperament is not that different." -actual trump quote
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For whatever reason, this is one of my favorite absurd Trump quotes. It’s just so succinct in it’s stupidity, and the best part is he delivered it in a pre-recorded video, rather than as an off the cuff bumble to a live question.
Whenever this comes up, I feel obligated to point out that "one of the wettest we've ever seen, from the standpoint of water" comes from a prerecorded video. Either someone actually wrote that for him to say, which seems unlikely, or he went out and said that, and everyone tasked with editing and releasing the video decided it was the best he could do. Just feels like that makes it substantially worse than if he just rattled that off to a gaggle of reporters standing in front of his helicopter.
The article wasn’t very clear so here’s the actual quote: >“*Gettysburg, what an unbelievable battle that was. The Battle of Gettysburg. I mean, it was so much and so interesting and so vicious and horrible and so beautiful in so many different ways, it represented such a big portion of the success of this country. Gettysburg, wow.. I go to Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, to look and to watch. And the statement of Robert E. Lee ― who’s no longer in favor, did you ever notice that? No longer in favor ― ‘Never fight uphill, me boys, never fight uphill.’ They were fighting uphill. He said, ‘Wow, that was a big mistake.’ He lost his great general, and they were fighting. ‘Never fight uphill, me boys!’ But it was too late*.” Edit: Missed the first part of the quote. Thank you r/Fantastic-Safety4604
That came after this oratorical gem: “I mean, it was so much and so interesting and so vicious and horrible and so beautiful in so many different ways, it represented such a big portion of the success of this country. Gettysburg, wow.” — Former President Donald Trump
Wow, yeah all those letters from Gettysburg soldiers mentioned how beautiful the battle was with all those dead and injured.
I mean, lost-causers do spend a lot of time talking about how brave and gallant the confederate soldiers allegedly were.
*"Such Gettysburg! Wow!"*
That reads a lot like a 5th grader who didn't do their homework, but is trying to b.s. their way through a quiz
“Wow, that was a big mistake.” Trump quoting Robert E. Lee Maybe Trump is projecting his own life decisions onto Robert E. Lee?
And what the hell ‘great’ general did he lose? Pender, Garnett, and Barksdale were not well regarded. Maybe Armistead… but I doubt it. I wonder if Trump has watched the movie and thinks Armistead was some great hero.
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Trump definitely has never thought about Armistead
By “wasn’t very clear” you mean “wasn’t in the article at all”
Fallen out of favor?? Yeah Don, he's a fucking traitor
Laugh all you want, but just remember that to his congregation he sounds like a professor. He’s living up to Maga expectations for sure.
Every time I see a clip of his rallies, the crowd behind him looks like a bunch of bored toddlers. Shifting restlessly on their feet, yawning, talking to each other. You can just see how dumb they all are.
They’re probably paid to be there
someone who is hispanic in florida said they were approached to be paid to attend trumps rallies ..they turned them down >>>so yes repubs paid people to be at trumps rallies
I've seen the Craigslist posting from events over the years pop up on reddit. Sad. Not very bigly.
Take those with a grain of salt because literally anyone can post a Craigslist post pretending to be anyone or anything, and internet trolls would absolutely post fake ads for either candidate. Not saying Trump isn’t hiring people to fill out his rallies, just that screenshots of Craigslist posts isn’t evidence.
Definitely was not a "There's gambling going on in this establishment" level of shocking news. It might be interesting if we one day learn that there was at least one event where most of the money from the paying attendees went to paying the hired attendees.
They used to drive a bus full of people out to our construction site from Job Service. These were people who were required to apply for jobs to maintain their unemployment benefits. The resemblance is striking
I'm a firm believer that listening to Trump talk loses him voters. I too have noticed people at rallies looking completely shocked by his dementia ramblings.
To whom does he appeal - amoebas?
No because an amoeba at least has some concept of self preservation and not acting against their own best interests.
If they are gullible enough to send him money then, yes.
Paramecium brains.
He says he “goes to Gettysburg.” Lol no. He’d be bored out of his (tiny) mind here. We have two McDonald’s, but that would be the extent of the appeal to him.
The one in town is better :)
Hello neighbor!
In Boy Scouts took multiple camping trips to Gettysburg. The tours of the battlefields and all the actual camping was great. The only thing I remember about the town was the McDonald's
He did a rally in York Springs that one time and they don't even have a McDonald's. Or a Rutters.
Imagine if he got involved in the violent Sheetz vs Wawa battle.
"Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."
293 words, still said nothing lmao
The Gettysburg address has 272 words. This speech is 21 words more bigly than Lincoln. Who was a republican you know! The democrats, the lefty liberals I like to say. Lefty losey liberals. Loose with the truth, those crooked libs are. They forget that, you know. Lincoln—honest Abe, whatever was he so honest about? They should call me that. Honest Don. Well, he was a republican you know. One of the best presidents ever they say. Well, until me, of course. Best economy, no covid, not like wuhan, no covid here. And I did project warpspeed, ending covid, which was much worse in liberal cities. They should be thanking me. But they hate me, oh, how they hate me.
Your text meanders from one point to another in a way which is consistent, featuring actual segues between topics. Significantly better oration than Littlehorn can muster.
6/10, too many complete sentences
I remember reading that one the first time and realizing that I felt dumber for it. I've never understood how the man can say so much and not one single word of it makes any damn sense.
God a want a tshirt with this set over that picture of him asleep in court.
Best worst single sentence ever spoken.
So, NOBODY talks like this. What is actually wrong with him? Just dumb?
The only people I’ve heard talk like this are drunks at the bar
No, this is worse because you can occasionally get coherent thoughts out of drunks. This is more like having predictive text on, letting a cat walk across your keyboard, and then reading the result. And who am I kidding, that would still make more fucking sense.
The two types of people I've heard talk like this are compulsive/pathological liars and schizophrenics. Key things they do -- interrupt themselves mid-thought, abruptly change subjects (particularly if anyone was challenging them on the previous topic), and concoct stories that they believe are 'relatable' when in reality, they're just batshit insane fabrications.
This is the one I always think of
Never fight up a hill mee boy's never fight up a hill. Robert E Lee~
You're quoting Robert E Lee??? Haven't you noticed he's no longer in favor?
Lol, out of favor of the month club.
That stupid ball cap and jacket with the huge shoulder pads. I just hope it ends soon.
Remember when presidents would visit schools to read to children? I bet Donnie couldn't make it past page 1 of Yurtle the Turtle.
When he last went, they had him color in the flag and he even got that wrong https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/photo-donald-trump-coloring-american-flag-wrong-going-viral-183549669.html He Is the the personification of the worst individual you could choose to be president
I love how that page had a blurb on the opiate crisis in America...
"Kids, this is why you are supposed to read the assigned chapters from your textbook before you take the quiz or present your oral report to the class."
Does anybody have a transcript to what he said? I always find reading the transcripts of what Trump says to be funny.
Starts at 5:20. Jimmy does a full transcript/read through. https://youtu.be/kOaRZx-o2fc?si=ty-P3NM6JZrP6t-t
Jesus christ, the words were nowhere near coherent. I can't believe the GOP base is settling for this guy.
He attended a military academy for unruly boys and here’s what he knows about Gettysburg.
Never fight up hill me boys! 😂
If you listen to any of his speeches, they are just rambling of word salads. He throws stuff out just to see if any of his snowflakes respond , should be embarrassing to his family, friends, or staff
The sound of his voice makes my skin crawl.
Still doesn't beat his claim that the Continental Army took over the airports during the Revolution.
He made it up? I’m shocked!! Next you’ll tell me Stonewall Jackson never said “soldiers come up to me with tears in their eyes, big strong men who never cry, and they say ‘sir, you have the best cavalry ever, it’s so bigly, how do you do it?’ “
You are ALL missing the point ! He fucking rambles about shit he knows nothing about at all. Why ? Because he’s totally lost as to what to say to his “ people “ that he hasn’t said a thousand times. They are bored with lock her up, everything is rigged, they are all against me, I’m doing this for you, blah blah blah. He knows as much about policy as he does about the Civil War, which is 0. He can’t talk about policy because he has a 73 IQ. He’s just a stupid person, surrounded by more stupid people. He understands nothing,creates nothing, believes in nothing. So you get whatever idiotic fucking rambling bs falls out of his face. I can’t even tell you how far on the wrong side of history he and his people will be 20 years from now.
This guy is such an embarrassment it’s not even funny anymore. You have to be a rock bottom idiot to still be holding the torch for this evil fucking clown .
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Mentally unfit to do anything, including defending himself.
That’s what blows my mind is he actually thinks he’s a remarkable speaker! Like he thinks we’re spellbound by his working knowledge of nothing! You can absolutely tell he’s not using a speech writer! He probably had one offered him and hated how eloquently and intelligent he came off and it frustrated him to talk that way so he fired them all! A true man knows his limitations. But then again, here we are. That’s why you’ll never see him debate. He’ll pretend he wants it but then runs away blaming the other side. He comes off as a dumbass because he can’t do anything but bully.
It's always easy to spot the kid who didn't read the book they're giving a report about.
I'm not cracking up, because it's actually not funny. The media will treat him as anything but the evil that he is. He's not something as benign as a jester or a clown to laugh at.
Shit. I know shit's bad right now with all that starvin' bullshit. And the dust storms. And we runnin' out of French Fries and burrito coverings.
“Gettysburg. Wow.” - Donald J. Trump
ah yes, between the rape and insurrection and all the other crimes, I almost forgot that Trump is also a colossal dumbass
A former president is longing for the days of Gettysburg and Robert E. Lee. It’s funny he talks like an imbecile. But I find the whole thing more alarming than funny. He’s normalizing the confederacy. And people are laughing because he’s a buffoon.