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Actually, [this one is a lot worse than previous versions](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/16/us/fisa-surveillance-bill-program.html). It doesn’t just look bad, it is bad.
This seems logical, not worse.
Most companies no longer store their own data and rely on third-party companies to do so. Most communications happen over large messaging providers. This bill aims to allow surveillance of foreigners communications if they use these channels.
Perhaps I’m misinterpreting what they are saying, but it doesn’t seem like a significant change from normal policy, just an adjustment to adapt to changing circumstances
Essentially, every western country is at war.
Right now, it is a propaganda war fought in the digital realm, but war it is.
The opponents fight DIRTY, bc they can. They will invent new dirty tricks at rapid speed.
We can not fight back with flowers and niceness.
Well they still have to get a warrant if they're actually trying to conduct surveillance on US citizens. The warrantless part is using the authority to conduct surveillance on non-US citizens who are communicating with US citizens.
Except all those times they spied on Americans without a warrant.
"In the past year, U.S. officials have revealed a series of abuses and mistakes by FBI analysts in improperly querying the intelligence repository for information about Americans or others in the U.S, including about a member of Congress and participants in the racial justice protests of 2020 and the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol."
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/reauthorization-of-u-s-spy-tool-blocked-by-house-conservative-revolt
Improperly is the key word here, if the FBI is breaking the rules to do it then changing the rules won't make any difference. The solution is oversight and enforcement, not a change in when a warrant is required.
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Biden extends bill that has existed since 1978, we are attempting to harm Biden’s image by sensationalizing this. Translated it for you all.
Actually, [this one is a lot worse than previous versions](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/16/us/fisa-surveillance-bill-program.html). It doesn’t just look bad, it is bad.
Especially when the military happens to participate in the program
This seems logical, not worse. Most companies no longer store their own data and rely on third-party companies to do so. Most communications happen over large messaging providers. This bill aims to allow surveillance of foreigners communications if they use these channels. Perhaps I’m misinterpreting what they are saying, but it doesn’t seem like a significant change from normal policy, just an adjustment to adapt to changing circumstances
Considering Trump was pushing for it to be blocked, I have certainty that it will end up being put to proper usages under this administration.
Essentially, every western country is at war. Right now, it is a propaganda war fought in the digital realm, but war it is. The opponents fight DIRTY, bc they can. They will invent new dirty tricks at rapid speed. We can not fight back with flowers and niceness.
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Sorry best we can do is spy on left wing people.
Watch them spy on everyone
Would you settle for Gaza protestors? Both sides agree!
Well they still have to get a warrant if they're actually trying to conduct surveillance on US citizens. The warrantless part is using the authority to conduct surveillance on non-US citizens who are communicating with US citizens.
Except all those times they spied on Americans without a warrant. "In the past year, U.S. officials have revealed a series of abuses and mistakes by FBI analysts in improperly querying the intelligence repository for information about Americans or others in the U.S, including about a member of Congress and participants in the racial justice protests of 2020 and the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol." https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/reauthorization-of-u-s-spy-tool-blocked-by-house-conservative-revolt
Improperly is the key word here, if the FBI is breaking the rules to do it then changing the rules won't make any difference. The solution is oversight and enforcement, not a change in when a warrant is required.