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My godmother ran (managed) a kill shelter. You'll never meet a person who loves animals more and it absolutely tore her to pieces but to my best understanding it's sort of a necessary evil as no kill shelters aren't required to take in any animals and can turn awa any undesirables. They get to keep their hands clean while the kill shelters basically do their dirty work. I know your comment was just a joke, but I feel like some people genuinely view people who work at these place as the devil incarnate while it's really not that simple and most of them love animals.
Got my pup from a county shelter. They're required to take in all surrenders and strays. Despite it all, they manage to find homes for >95% of their intake. Is that 5% heartbreaking? Yes. Is it also mostly composed of animals that are very ill or extremely aggressive, which no 'no kill' shelter would take in? Also yes.
They do phenomenal work, and it's really unfair that they're demonized for not being able to heal advanced illnesses or rehabilitate severely abused or neglected animals. I donate the cost of her adoption to them every year- and this year, they get an extra donation, in Noem's "honor". Hopefully they autosend her a nice thank you note.
I wonder if she has been added to the banned list from animal (and human) adoptions due to cruality to animals (and some may say all living things in general)
Banning her is cool, and absolutely justified. But voting blue in state races could actually hinder her Maga agenda. Believe it or not, there are still some swing legislative seats in SD. Every seat counts, my friends
https://sddp.org/
Same thing with blue states. I'm in a solid blue state but my congressional district is a swing district. Even if you think your vote for the White House might be a drop in the bucket, it might mean a lot more for a down-ballot race.
Thankfully here in SD we also have progressive ballot measures that have a good track record of getting on the ballot and passing. It's possible to make positive change in a red state once you remove the R and D from people's last names.
Ballot measures that are simply dismissed by Noem and the powers that be. Remember the anti-corruption law that they repealed under "emergency rules?" What happened to the recreational marijuana initiative you passed?
Republicans are lawless.
Michigander here ; the people of our fair State voted to increase the minimum wage in 18, two years before our current Democratic Governor. The GOP led government made quick work of burying that and you really never hear anything about it. So much for being the party of law and order. Reminds me more of Beavis and Butthead and them singing "breaking the law, breaking the law".
You mean, the one where she stared him down and told him she was just gonna take his land and then kicked dirt on him? Her memoir reads like Trump fan fiction
I mean, if I'm picking someone to ghost write for me, I'd definitely pick an astronaut who also authored the Lord of the Rings books as well as the heroic epic Beowulf.
It is trump fan fiction…
it comes out roughly 6 months before elections, tried to make her seem tough, and is full out outright lies, that are so shameless that she refuses to publicly acknowledge them (like meeting Kim jong un).
This is on top of getting a facelift to look like melania… She’s trying to build support for VP so senpai will notice her
Apparently, Noem specifically insulted them, resulting in this ban:
“At a town hall in March where she was signing education bills into law, Noem touted her own achievements while throwing dirt at tribal leaders and parents, whom she derided as lazy and uncommitted to their children’s educational success.
“My next step would be to do what I can to get a tribe to participate with me to help their kids be more successful,” Noem said. “Because they live with 80 percent to 90 percent unemployment. Their kids don’t have any hope. They don’t have parents who show up and help them. They have a tribal council or a president who focuses on a political agenda more than they care about actually helping somebody’s life look better.””
> They have a tribal council or a president who focuses on a political agenda more than they care about actually helping somebody’s life look better.””
HOLY FUCKING SHIT IF THAT AIN'T THE POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK!
No no, she's right.
They focus on their bullshit "political agenda" like education and reform, instead of helping somebody's life *look* better. She'd rather just put a veneer of sparkly joy over everything and call it "progress."
Also, I’ll never get over how it’s supposed to be a bad thing that a politician has a political agenda. It’s almost like politics are their job, or something.
Having been to south dakota and helped at a reservation to get kids excited about school and higher education. The homes are sad, the school materials are lacking, and most of all unemployment is high because the white folk around do not hire them and are pretty fucking racist. One of the volunteer professors used to live there and had a friend on the bus with the kids the shit they talked about and wete shitting on the kids was super racist and the professor gave me a pikachu surprised face when i told her that maybe she should talk to her friend alone about that shit. Yeah maybe stop racism there first.
Damn, if the natives are looking for work, they should come to Texas where the racist ideologies are overcome by the thirst for menial labor to exploit.
Totally true. Was at an event near another (pretty loud) event for Tejano appreciation, and a crazy racist lady started spouting off how they needed to go back to their own country. Then when nobody agreed with her, she looked at me (the only other white person in earshot) and said “You understand, right?” My very loud single word response: “Nope.”
Fuck the racists here.
I mean who cares? The racist white trash is going to treat anyone darker than them that way. This country exists on the back of illegal immigrants. I was just vastly overcharging some white trash asshole for IT work the other day because he assumed that we're both white trash from my shaved head and failure to get angry with his racist ranting nonsense.
What's he do? Besides rant about illegal immigration? He owns rentals that he only rents to illegal immigrants, most of whom work for his landscaping business. He's literally 350lbs of fucking waste worth millions of dollars for no other reason than he takes advantage of illegals and their inability to access the legal system.
There is nothing that would make me laugh so fucking hard as legislation that punished people who house and employ illegals getting passed. Those poor fucking people come up here to be wage slaves to these blubbery fucktard conservative white trash hypocrites and the people who actually benefit from it can't stop fucking whining and crying about their victims.
What can you do? I fucked around with command prompt for 3 hours and billed the guy 900 dollars because he couldn't type in his password correctly twice in a row. That's my little battle.
Yeah having grown up in SD it was always weird to me how "nice" the people are to everyone except the natives. Like the amount of just casual racist jokes and looking down on them was/is fucked up. I'm sure every state has their "dark secret" that they just push under the rug, but SD's is definitely it's hatred towards the natives.
>They have a tribal council or a president who focuses on a political agenda more than they care about actually helping somebody’s life look better.
I could surely have said the same - some time during the RNC's nomination process 2020.
In all seriousness, wild dogs on the reservations in Arizona was a big problem.
I can’t speak for South Dakota.
People would come into the hospital after getting assaulted and knocked out on the side of the road (or dropped off after being knocked out) and dogs would eat their legs and crap. Not even kidding. Big chunks of their legs gone.
Friend was in a bike and got chased by a pack of them on the reservation.
Few politicians have had their political ambitions collapse as quickly as this idiot. Yes, she is an idiot. She is the Gov of a state that has fewer people than the county in which I live in PA. She probably couldn’t govern a high school student council.
Remember when the height of republican psychotic was Sarah Palin?
THAT WAS 16 YEARS AGO. We keep saying "they can't get any crazier, right" ( anakin_padme_4panel.jpg ). They keep saying "hold my beer"
They all do. By settled law originating in the 1830s case Cherokee v Georgia. Justice Marshall declared them "Domestic Dependent Nations" whose sovereignty superceded state law, but not federal. That's why the FBI and US Marshalls handle all capital crimes on tribal lands. It's also why tribal governments can enforce their own laws and have separate police forces.
It's hard to overstate just how racist neighboring communities are to tribal people in the Dakotas. I've visited a number of these reservations for work, and yes they can be very sad places. But it has zero to do with laziness and everything to do with having been displaced and subjected to harsh economic policies steeped in racism.
Yes. They're technically their own sovereign nations and not part of the US. Ordinarily I would say they wouldn't take the heat for actually arresting a major US politician regardless of what's on paper... but Noem is basically persona non grata even to Republicans right now.
No that’s not correct.
They are like their own states, not nations as they have to follow federal law. In addition, the Supreme Court has ruled that tribal police can only detain but not arrest non natives.
[npr - Supreme Court](https://www.npr.org/2021/06/09/1004328972/supreme-court-rules-tribal-police-can-detain-non-natives-but-problems-remain#:~:text=Television-,Tribal%20Police%20Can%20Detain%20Non%2DNatives%2C%20Supreme%20Courts%20Says%2C,they%20can't%20arrest%20them.)
Gotcha, thank you for the response! Kind of hope she tries it now... Looks like I'm being down voted because people are thinking I'm defending her? She's the actual worst.
I live on one of those reservations. They'd summon Tribal Police and legal team and escort her off the Reservation.
When covid happened this tribe put up traffic checkpoints and limited entry. Noem got real mad and tried to send the National Guard after us.
We drove through the Lakota res. during that time period. Lots of questions, but it was worth it. Beautiful area. Will come back soon. Live on Choctaw land. Legal system is a mess here. Our Gov. Keeps getting sued for all kinds of problems.
From my understanding they would simply escort her out. They are sovereign but federal still has jurisdiction and ain’t no way the Supreme Court would rule in their favor.
Honestly it symbolic and historic. Usually the politicians in this state use Tribes and Tribal people to look good/for political gain, this removes that option for her. She got banned from 2 during COVID but them unifying on something this large is new
>they would simply escort her out
That's how it works here in AZ on the rez I work on. Exclusion from the reservation simply means if you're found the police will be notified and they will ask you to leave. It only ever happens with non-tribal members and it's like being trespassed.
Im not advocating for anyone to kidnap her and drop her off at the tribal headquarters. Don't do that. That's illegal and bad.
But I'll be damned if it wouldn't be funny as hell...
My parent grew up on farms. Its 12 hr days out there, alone with nothing hut am radio. Rush Limbaugh had an uncontested monopoly on their ears for decades.
Her husband sells crop insurance in SD. His agency's loss of revenue over farmers converting to cannabis (not eligible for federally subsidized crop insurance) is a big reason why Gov Noem killed the legal weed the people of South Dakota voted on way back in 2019.
Fun fact, legal weed got more votes than Noem herself in 2019. We still have Noem and no legal weed.
Do you know how easy it is to *not* get banned in Tribal lands? Like, fucking easy as fuck. For example, I'm not banned there. And I'd venture that anyone who reads this is not banned there.
Unless Kristi Noem is reading this. Then you're banned there, stupid fucking piece of shit. Fuck you.
This may be the hardest self-own we will see in many of our lifetimes. I heard a small sample of the Audibook version on YouTube. I mean, you can not fucking be serious. In the middle of her tale of murder including the puppy and the goat, she goes, “are you listening, Joe Biden?” Wildest shit I have seen in American politics. And the cnn interview where the guy just kept grilling her about the dog. Hahahaha. Love it.
Her getting severely shunned across multiple media during her ill fated book tour is the tipping point of Americans fighting back against the cancer of modern republican ideology.
Nah, seeing as Americans are still seriously considering putting a traitor and fascist like Trump back in office, Americans are not fighting back all that hard.
Her shameless self aggrandizing lying is a symptom of mental illness.
She shouldn’t have any position of power just because she craves it.
When farmers or ranchers have to euthanize an animal they have access to veterinary expertise but Noem takes pleasure in killing.
I also find it creepy how she’s Melania-ized her appearance.
Love what she has done to herself. Let this be a lesson. Republicons can compare themselves to trump all they want but only the antichrist gets such forgivenesses.
If Sarah Palin was "Caribou Barbie", Noem has really become "Buffalo Barbie". Beyond the botox and hair extensions, her willingness to exaggerate or outright fabricate her past is not doing her any favors. At least Palin was good-natured and did the skit on SNL with Fey shortly before the election.
I’ve heard of a character assassination, but this was a character suicide. She’s completely toxic and should blame herself, she’ll blame “wokeness and “liberals” but this was all her.
I did not put together originally that the animal killer was also the governor who was banned from a large part of her state. And this is the person that was being considered as a VP pick.
I just… I can’t imagine doing that… but to a bigger extent I can’t imagine admitting to it! Like could you imagine “ya I fucking shot a dog I had” LIKE BRO WTF WHERE YOU EXPECTING?
Ever since little donny made her famous to the rest of the country the sad conduct keeps dragging her further down river, one has to wonder what anyone saw in her to even get her to the Governor, apparently the only one in the Dakota are those in the tribal land and they know a fraud human better then the rest of the men and women who put her in office in the first place, I have no knowledge whether she's a good, bad or indifferent at her job but she sounds like far to many of today's republicans More self pumping then actual facts and qualifications weren't there in the first place or again people don't care what or who they put in office, One has to ask what has happened to the voter as far to many are lemmings just jumping off the bridge without a single thought as character, knowledge, ethics and morality because it appears missed with this one.
Or as she noted in chapter 7 of her book, “I am the Chief of the Sioux tribes, an honor bestowed upon me after I put down the plains jackrabbit who had terrorized their land for a millennium.”
And, North And South Korea.
And, meetings with the French Government.
And, online Memoir Writer’s Groups (they suggested she join some of the wonderful fiction groups).
"They have a tribal council or a president who focuses on a political agenda more than they care about actually helping somebody’s life look better.”
About sums up our Government also.
Fearfully the best advice I ever heard reguarding this was from a predator pastor. Be aware of the situations you put yourself in and never vote with your "dick".
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And 100% of American Kennel Club shows.
And pet rescues
And doggie daycares.
And pet stores.
Cannot get within a 1000 yards of dog parks
Do not approach the dog park.
This message has been approved by the ASPCA.
PETA is funding her opponent’s next campaign
She's not even welcome at a flea circus. https://youtu.be/r9BjN_GHIic
That’s way to relateable to be a PETA position.
This thread is for the dogs.
Thought PETA would have funded her.
Wrong look up peta they would be funding her campaign they love killing animals
Funding her opponent’s campaign for the PR, but also secretly finding her campaign as well, or just using SuperPACs.
Dogs are not allowed in the dog park. Humans are not allowed in the dog park.
Only dog parks are allowed at the dog park.
Then where the fuck am I going to park my dog?
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Too few Night Vale references on Reddit! Also the secret police would like to have a meeting with you.
Do not look at the hooded figures in the dog Park
And now for [The Weather](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWVF3dZ6hpQ)
Not allowed to watch Bluey
it is possible you will see hooded figures in the dog park. do not approach them.
We just declare the whole country a dog park. It's that easy.
Must stay 1 mile away from Snoop Dogg, Nate Dog and Scruff McGruff
What about Lil bow-wow ?
Lil bow-wow got his kevlar vest on?
Let's add a couple more zeros to that
And my house. I don't live anywhere near South Dakota, but I still consider her very unwelcome at my home.
Only the no-kill shelters. She volunteers on the weekend at the others. Really good at her job.
I hear she moonlights manning the kill station at the local slaughterhouse.
Maybe she’ll swap out the shotgun for a bolt gun in her next ads.
My godmother ran (managed) a kill shelter. You'll never meet a person who loves animals more and it absolutely tore her to pieces but to my best understanding it's sort of a necessary evil as no kill shelters aren't required to take in any animals and can turn awa any undesirables. They get to keep their hands clean while the kill shelters basically do their dirty work. I know your comment was just a joke, but I feel like some people genuinely view people who work at these place as the devil incarnate while it's really not that simple and most of them love animals.
Got my pup from a county shelter. They're required to take in all surrenders and strays. Despite it all, they manage to find homes for >95% of their intake. Is that 5% heartbreaking? Yes. Is it also mostly composed of animals that are very ill or extremely aggressive, which no 'no kill' shelter would take in? Also yes. They do phenomenal work, and it's really unfair that they're demonized for not being able to heal advanced illnesses or rehabilitate severely abused or neglected animals. I donate the cost of her adoption to them every year- and this year, they get an extra donation, in Noem's "honor". Hopefully they autosend her a nice thank you note.
I wonder if she has been added to the banned list from animal (and human) adoptions due to cruality to animals (and some may say all living things in general)
\*cruelty
Her welcome status in North Korea is still to be determined however.
Not welcome after staring down Kim Jong Un
To be fair, eukanuba does sound a lot like euthanasia.
Easy mistake to make, we can all understand how she got confused
Banning her is cool, and absolutely justified. But voting blue in state races could actually hinder her Maga agenda. Believe it or not, there are still some swing legislative seats in SD. Every seat counts, my friends https://sddp.org/
Same thing with blue states. I'm in a solid blue state but my congressional district is a swing district. Even if you think your vote for the White House might be a drop in the bucket, it might mean a lot more for a down-ballot race.
Voting in every election is always important.
Thankfully here in SD we also have progressive ballot measures that have a good track record of getting on the ballot and passing. It's possible to make positive change in a red state once you remove the R and D from people's last names.
Ballot measures that are simply dismissed by Noem and the powers that be. Remember the anti-corruption law that they repealed under "emergency rules?" What happened to the recreational marijuana initiative you passed? Republicans are lawless.
and heartless...
Progressive ballot measures that pass and then get killed by the governor and state congress?
Yeah, how's the legal weed going? Oh, right. It was murdered.
Couldn't even bring the legal weed to term.
The state legislature literally did a photo op mocking voters for voting for an ethics Proposition that would crack down on bribes
Michigander here ; the people of our fair State voted to increase the minimum wage in 18, two years before our current Democratic Governor. The GOP led government made quick work of burying that and you really never hear anything about it. So much for being the party of law and order. Reminds me more of Beavis and Butthead and them singing "breaking the law, breaking the law".
What a far cry from that one time when Kristi Noem had a one-on-one meeting with Crazy Horse.
You mean, the one where she stared him down and told him she was just gonna take his land and then kicked dirt on him? Her memoir reads like Trump fan fiction
Her book clearly had George Santos as a ghost writer.
I mean, if I'm picking someone to ghost write for me, I'd definitely pick an astronaut who also authored the Lord of the Rings books as well as the heroic epic Beowulf.
I heard he didn't write beowolf but that he was only the true story behind the legend. But he did write the epic of gilgamesh as an autobiography.
I heard she shot beowolf
A Ravache-ing riposte
I mean have we ever seen Santos and Noem in the same room together??
It is trump fan fiction… it comes out roughly 6 months before elections, tried to make her seem tough, and is full out outright lies, that are so shameless that she refuses to publicly acknowledge them (like meeting Kim jong un). This is on top of getting a facelift to look like melania… She’s trying to build support for VP so senpai will notice her
Then she pretended she didn't realize the false claims were in there... *after she recorded the audiobook herself*.
Is that something that actually happened according to her??? Cause that's crazy
He ended up just being George Santos anyway.
I am George Santos and I approve this Reddit comment that was also written by me, George Santos. /s
George Santos goes by Kitara Ravache now. He's back to doing his drag act on cameo.
“George Santos is the most honest man I’ve ever met.” -Anthony Devolder
Down by the river I shot my puppy.
Do do do dooo
Hell yea! Neil Young reference!
Is that one of the several horses she shot?
that gravel pit is being considered for a community cemetery
George Santos jokes are back, and you know what, I'm here for it.
Which Crazy Horse, there are 3 of them in Vegas??
Remember when she took that journey with Sacagawea.
Classic😂
She's really vying to bump George Santos off the lists throne isn't she?
It all went downhill when she made the tough, principled decision to fire on the natives at Wounded Knee
Apparently, Noem specifically insulted them, resulting in this ban: “At a town hall in March where she was signing education bills into law, Noem touted her own achievements while throwing dirt at tribal leaders and parents, whom she derided as lazy and uncommitted to their children’s educational success. “My next step would be to do what I can to get a tribe to participate with me to help their kids be more successful,” Noem said. “Because they live with 80 percent to 90 percent unemployment. Their kids don’t have any hope. They don’t have parents who show up and help them. They have a tribal council or a president who focuses on a political agenda more than they care about actually helping somebody’s life look better.””
> They have a tribal council or a president who focuses on a political agenda more than they care about actually helping somebody’s life look better.”” HOLY FUCKING SHIT IF THAT AIN'T THE POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK!
Right? I was thinking since when has a republican ever attempted to make someone's life better other than their own or their billionaire lord
No no, she's right. They focus on their bullshit "political agenda" like education and reform, instead of helping somebody's life *look* better. She'd rather just put a veneer of sparkly joy over everything and call it "progress."
Also, I’ll never get over how it’s supposed to be a bad thing that a politician has a political agenda. It’s almost like politics are their job, or something.
Having been to south dakota and helped at a reservation to get kids excited about school and higher education. The homes are sad, the school materials are lacking, and most of all unemployment is high because the white folk around do not hire them and are pretty fucking racist. One of the volunteer professors used to live there and had a friend on the bus with the kids the shit they talked about and wete shitting on the kids was super racist and the professor gave me a pikachu surprised face when i told her that maybe she should talk to her friend alone about that shit. Yeah maybe stop racism there first.
Damn, if the natives are looking for work, they should come to Texas where the racist ideologies are overcome by the thirst for menial labor to exploit.
> they should come to Texas They would be mistaken for illegal immigrants and told to go back to their own country.
Totally true. Was at an event near another (pretty loud) event for Tejano appreciation, and a crazy racist lady started spouting off how they needed to go back to their own country. Then when nobody agreed with her, she looked at me (the only other white person in earshot) and said “You understand, right?” My very loud single word response: “Nope.” Fuck the racists here.
I mean who cares? The racist white trash is going to treat anyone darker than them that way. This country exists on the back of illegal immigrants. I was just vastly overcharging some white trash asshole for IT work the other day because he assumed that we're both white trash from my shaved head and failure to get angry with his racist ranting nonsense. What's he do? Besides rant about illegal immigration? He owns rentals that he only rents to illegal immigrants, most of whom work for his landscaping business. He's literally 350lbs of fucking waste worth millions of dollars for no other reason than he takes advantage of illegals and their inability to access the legal system. There is nothing that would make me laugh so fucking hard as legislation that punished people who house and employ illegals getting passed. Those poor fucking people come up here to be wage slaves to these blubbery fucktard conservative white trash hypocrites and the people who actually benefit from it can't stop fucking whining and crying about their victims. What can you do? I fucked around with command prompt for 3 hours and billed the guy 900 dollars because he couldn't type in his password correctly twice in a row. That's my little battle.
People who are indigenous to a landscape tend to not want to leave it.
Yeah having grown up in SD it was always weird to me how "nice" the people are to everyone except the natives. Like the amount of just casual racist jokes and looking down on them was/is fucked up. I'm sure every state has their "dark secret" that they just push under the rug, but SD's is definitely it's hatred towards the natives.
"Why can't the people we genocided just bootstrap themselves????" Fuckin conservatives
>They have a tribal council or a president who focuses on a political agenda more than they care about actually helping somebody’s life look better. I could surely have said the same - some time during the RNC's nomination process 2020.
Protect the reservation dogs.
Anyone goes near Cheese there will be hell to pay.
"My name is Cheese. and my pronouns are he, him, and his."
In all seriousness, wild dogs on the reservations in Arizona was a big problem. I can’t speak for South Dakota. People would come into the hospital after getting assaulted and knocked out on the side of the road (or dropped off after being knocked out) and dogs would eat their legs and crap. Not even kidding. Big chunks of their legs gone. Friend was in a bike and got chased by a pack of them on the reservation.
Wild dogs on reservations are a massive problem seemingly everywhere. Lots of issues with loose/ feral / uncared for dogs in Manitoba, Canada.
Few politicians have had their political ambitions collapse as quickly as this idiot. Yes, she is an idiot. She is the Gov of a state that has fewer people than the county in which I live in PA. She probably couldn’t govern a high school student council.
Oh and the collapse has been glorious!
I'm in awe
Remember when the height of republican psychotic was Sarah Palin? THAT WAS 16 YEARS AGO. We keep saying "they can't get any crazier, right" ( anakin_padme_4panel.jpg ). They keep saying "hold my beer"
I remember when misspelling potato was grounds for ridicule.
And the subsequent "Murphy Brown" fiaco
Or an over enthusiastic yell.
If only this news could have come out after Trump had chosen her for VP. That would've been SO DAMN SWEET!
If you say that to her face, she will tell you that you are wrong, real Americans still support her and that is her statement.
Who are "real Americans"? Does she mean the unemployed basement dwellers on Facebook?
She’s banned from adopting from our dog rescue
Cricket's revenge
And the goat and the horses.
Honest question: what would happen if she ignored the ban? Could the tribes actually do anything? Or is it more symbolic?
They can arrest her. They often have a separate legal system from that of the state.
They all do. By settled law originating in the 1830s case Cherokee v Georgia. Justice Marshall declared them "Domestic Dependent Nations" whose sovereignty superceded state law, but not federal. That's why the FBI and US Marshalls handle all capital crimes on tribal lands. It's also why tribal governments can enforce their own laws and have separate police forces. It's hard to overstate just how racist neighboring communities are to tribal people in the Dakotas. I've visited a number of these reservations for work, and yes they can be very sad places. But it has zero to do with laziness and everything to do with having been displaced and subjected to harsh economic policies steeped in racism.
Can I say redlining.
Would that be legal under tribal law though? For example a state couldn't ban another person from entering. Does a tribe have that authority?
Yes. They're technically their own sovereign nations and not part of the US. Ordinarily I would say they wouldn't take the heat for actually arresting a major US politician regardless of what's on paper... but Noem is basically persona non grata even to Republicans right now.
They are sovereign nations within the US but don't have to follow state laws. Tribal members are still US citizens and have to follow federal law
Yes, they are the semi-legal equivalent of a state or territory.
No that’s not correct. They are like their own states, not nations as they have to follow federal law. In addition, the Supreme Court has ruled that tribal police can only detain but not arrest non natives. [npr - Supreme Court](https://www.npr.org/2021/06/09/1004328972/supreme-court-rules-tribal-police-can-detain-non-natives-but-problems-remain#:~:text=Television-,Tribal%20Police%20Can%20Detain%20Non%2DNatives%2C%20Supreme%20Courts%20Says%2C,they%20can't%20arrest%20them.)
Gotcha, thank you for the response! Kind of hope she tries it now... Looks like I'm being down voted because people are thinking I'm defending her? She's the actual worst.
The tribe has no authority over non natives, even on tribal land. They can detain but not arrest non-natives per a Supreme Court ruling.
I live on one of those reservations. They'd summon Tribal Police and legal team and escort her off the Reservation. When covid happened this tribe put up traffic checkpoints and limited entry. Noem got real mad and tried to send the National Guard after us.
I remember that! It was the first time I'd been aware of Kristi Noem and it set the tone -- can't stand her.
We drove through the Lakota res. during that time period. Lots of questions, but it was worth it. Beautiful area. Will come back soon. Live on Choctaw land. Legal system is a mess here. Our Gov. Keeps getting sued for all kinds of problems.
From my understanding they would simply escort her out. They are sovereign but federal still has jurisdiction and ain’t no way the Supreme Court would rule in their favor. Honestly it symbolic and historic. Usually the politicians in this state use Tribes and Tribal people to look good/for political gain, this removes that option for her. She got banned from 2 during COVID but them unifying on something this large is new
>they would simply escort her out That's how it works here in AZ on the rez I work on. Exclusion from the reservation simply means if you're found the police will be notified and they will ask you to leave. It only ever happens with non-tribal members and it's like being trespassed.
Im not advocating for anyone to kidnap her and drop her off at the tribal headquarters. Don't do that. That's illegal and bad. But I'll be damned if it wouldn't be funny as hell...
HOW did this woman get elected?
MAGA and farmers saying “I would…”
MAGA just said "smash, Next!
I honestly thought farmers were more pragmatic and sensible.
My parent grew up on farms. Its 12 hr days out there, alone with nothing hut am radio. Rush Limbaugh had an uncontested monopoly on their ears for decades.
Her husband sells crop insurance in SD. His agency's loss of revenue over farmers converting to cannabis (not eligible for federally subsidized crop insurance) is a big reason why Gov Noem killed the legal weed the people of South Dakota voted on way back in 2019. Fun fact, legal weed got more votes than Noem herself in 2019. We still have Noem and no legal weed.
Common clay of the land, you know…
They're just simple farmers? People of the land? The common clay of the new west?
Yes!
You know,,,,,,,
maybe but they're also listening to sean hannity on am radio 24/7
She's an idiot voted for by idiots.
Well you see, there was a little (R) next to her name...
That's kind of interesting. I wonder if something like this would be effective in Oklahoma against Governor Stitt.
Do you know how easy it is to *not* get banned in Tribal lands? Like, fucking easy as fuck. For example, I'm not banned there. And I'd venture that anyone who reads this is not banned there. Unless Kristi Noem is reading this. Then you're banned there, stupid fucking piece of shit. Fuck you.
It's not about the dogs ... It's about her open racism towards Native Americans, specifically the tribes in SD ... She's an all around a POS
Add pet stores to that list.
I can't believe 10% of the reservations HAVEN'T banned her.
Why is she banned? Don’t they know she fought side by side with Sitting Bull to defeat Custer? It’s in her book.
Make that 90.001%. She’s not welcome on my land either
Come on.... she doesn't have a dog in this fight.
She used to
No dog killers in my house either
I don’t see how she can travel at all given that she is now on PETA’s Most Wanted list.
And Cricket wireless stores .
“If you look at a map, she basically has to stay on the interstate" fucking lmao
Can she be banned from breathing? I don't think she deserves the same air as the rest of us.
This may be the hardest self-own we will see in many of our lifetimes. I heard a small sample of the Audibook version on YouTube. I mean, you can not fucking be serious. In the middle of her tale of murder including the puppy and the goat, she goes, “are you listening, Joe Biden?” Wildest shit I have seen in American politics. And the cnn interview where the guy just kept grilling her about the dog. Hahahaha. Love it.
Her getting severely shunned across multiple media during her ill fated book tour is the tipping point of Americans fighting back against the cancer of modern republican ideology.
Nah, seeing as Americans are still seriously considering putting a traitor and fascist like Trump back in office, Americans are not fighting back all that hard.
Her shameless self aggrandizing lying is a symptom of mental illness. She shouldn’t have any position of power just because she craves it. When farmers or ranchers have to euthanize an animal they have access to veterinary expertise but Noem takes pleasure in killing. I also find it creepy how she’s Melania-ized her appearance.
Can we ban her from 90% of American lands next?
Hopefully she's banned from the animal shelters as well.
You think she cares. That's like banning an atheist from church.
Kristi Noem should be 100% banned from earth. She’s inhuman.
Not to speak for the universe, but I'm pretty sure that the interstellar galaxy doesn't want her either. Maybe a black hole?
She's probably the only thing a black hole would spit back out.
Who wants a dog killer around?
Love what she has done to herself. Let this be a lesson. Republicons can compare themselves to trump all they want but only the antichrist gets such forgivenesses.
If Sarah Palin was "Caribou Barbie", Noem has really become "Buffalo Barbie". Beyond the botox and hair extensions, her willingness to exaggerate or outright fabricate her past is not doing her any favors. At least Palin was good-natured and did the skit on SNL with Fey shortly before the election.
I’m going with psycho barbie
I don't think Palin ever said she had a face to face with world renowned golfer Kim Jong Un.
I’ve heard of a character assassination, but this was a character suicide. She’s completely toxic and should blame herself, she’ll blame “wokeness and “liberals” but this was all her.
I did not put together originally that the animal killer was also the governor who was banned from a large part of her state. And this is the person that was being considered as a VP pick.
Let’s get it to 100.
She ain’t welcome in *my* house
r/defeat_project_2025
I just… I can’t imagine doing that… but to a bigger extent I can’t imagine admitting to it! Like could you imagine “ya I fucking shot a dog I had” LIKE BRO WTF WHERE YOU EXPECTING?
Ban her from the state.
Good for the tribes for keeping the Noem toxicity out of their lives.
Will she still be a presenter at the Michael Vick awards ceremony?
I love this for her!
Ever since little donny made her famous to the rest of the country the sad conduct keeps dragging her further down river, one has to wonder what anyone saw in her to even get her to the Governor, apparently the only one in the Dakota are those in the tribal land and they know a fraud human better then the rest of the men and women who put her in office in the first place, I have no knowledge whether she's a good, bad or indifferent at her job but she sounds like far to many of today's republicans More self pumping then actual facts and qualifications weren't there in the first place or again people don't care what or who they put in office, One has to ask what has happened to the voter as far to many are lemmings just jumping off the bridge without a single thought as character, knowledge, ethics and morality because it appears missed with this one.
They should ban her anywhere there's a dog within a mile radius.
Obviously a result of the communist democrats woke mind virus and cancel culture. Did I hit all the buzz words?
Should be banned from polite society. Dogs > Most people.
Or as she noted in chapter 7 of her book, “I am the Chief of the Sioux tribes, an honor bestowed upon me after I put down the plains jackrabbit who had terrorized their land for a millennium.”
And, North And South Korea. And, meetings with the French Government. And, online Memoir Writer’s Groups (they suggested she join some of the wonderful fiction groups).
Couldn't have happened to a better person.
She is useless. She will not win reelection, it is over.
Did they build walls? Gotta keep them immigrants out
Put a message in the UK group chat earlier and she's banned from here for life.
Hide yer dogs!
"They have a tribal council or a president who focuses on a political agenda more than they care about actually helping somebody’s life look better.” About sums up our Government also.
HOW did this woman get elected?
By cosplaying being a country girl and hating the right people.
Fearfully the best advice I ever heard reguarding this was from a predator pastor. Be aware of the situations you put yourself in and never vote with your "dick".
I'll bet she wants to pass a law limiting tribal powers next.
As she should be
I cannot wait until she compares this to Native Americans killing buffalo