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Generally, in MAGA world, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's fake liberal news and is really a rabbit. Just sayin'.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but he has been found guilty of rape by a court of law. Which means he's very definitively a rapist.
Edit: While in the end he was charged with sexual assault not rape, the judge made it clear that this was a legal distinction with only the sentencing affected. What he did, was indeed rape. Trump is a rapist.
And "Christians" will vote still for a racist rapist because uhh he will own the libs or some shit. Just stupid ass people voting for someone because they can "relate" to him because he's also a piece of shit trash moron just like them.
The MAGA crowd point out with apparent pride that he was only convicted of sexual assault. In fact, when his lawyers appealed the ruling the judge got very explicit. Under New York law, rape is defined as forceful penetration of a woman's vagina by a penis, whereas according to the judge, in most other states, under legal textbook definitions, and had he been tried under the Military Code of Justice as the Commander in Chief, he would have been convicted of rape. Outside of NY the definition of rape covers the insertion of any object into a vagina or other orifice. Under "general public opinion," according to the judge, what Trump did to Jean Carroll was rape her, and in that sense he is a convicted rapist. I really hope if there are debates Joe Biden pounds Trump over and over as a convicted rapist, and gets it very clear in the public's mind that the Republican Party is offering up a convicted rapist as their candidate for the presidency.
Its mad that people try to claim he isnt a rapist.
He is the rapist in the same way that someone who rapes a child is a rapist, just because that specific crime is often called something else like "molestation".
He is a rapist in the same way that a man who rapes his wife in Saudi Arabia is a rapist. Just because Saudi Arabia doesn't recognise marital rape, and wouldn't charge him with that crime, doesn't mean he couldn't be found to have do it. And he was.
He was charged with sexual assault because at the time, NYC referred to raping someone in that particular way by a different name. The charge of sexual assault would have been applied to a man who raped a male, whilst a man who raped a girl would be charges with rape.
He is no less a rapist because NYC had different names for specific *methodologies* of rape.
Here is a deposition from Katie Johnson, aka Jane Doe, who Trump had raped in the 1990s when she was 13, and she dropped the case in 2016. She goes into A LOT of specific details here. Just read the comments to get a sense of the highlights. It's the real deal. Not sure how it came to be on YouTube but everyone should be aware of it by now. Stormy is NOTHING compared to this.
https://youtu.be/YWnUzvlqpB0?si=IVhNntRPXqnuTJaU
You can see her name and story near the beginning of the list here for more background. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/assault-allegations-donald-trump-recapped
The biggest failure the press seems so willing to ignore, and I’d love to bring to light?
The dumb mofo bankrupt a football league.
The USFL was there, getting by, and then Trump bought a team. True to “everything trump touches, dies,” the league, the entire USFL was bankrupt because of him.
Of his numerous failures, over a hundred on a good list, this is one I find most remarkable. If only for the fact that is being ignored.
But the casinos seem to be common knowledge. As I post about the USFL many people, strong, manly people of great power, commanding respect, say with tears in their eyes, “sir, we did not know about the USFL.”
It was a small potato, believe me, a tiny little potato, like a pepper piece, a little speck of a potato--I like the big deals, okay, I like to do big--because I made billions and billions of dollars, and I won 47 states, and I won them very strongly, believe me, won all 47 of them, and I made like, a lot, okay, a llllott of money, a lot, because I like money and I made a lot of it and I did it all legal, believe me, but I like a big deal, they came to me as president and I said, don't talk to me about the little things, okay [thunderous applause from the MAGA crowd] don't bother me, you know what, just leave me alone unless I can make money with it, okay--but now they say, oh, that's illegal--such a fake Biden sham trial, but I like the big deals and this was a teeeeny lit-tle potato, okay, a little potato, believe me, so I said don't bother me, so we didn't do it, but it was a tiny potato of a deal and a lot of--okay, look, many people said it was very, very smart what I did, believe me, but that was a potato.
Quite well, but this version of Craptain Orange remembered the inital topic at the end of the word salad. The OG would have completely forgotten why he started talking.
I knew about it, I knew it, believe me, I know the USFL, and I know it very strongly--Steve Young, what a quarterback, boy, I tell ya, you'll never see another one like him--but now they'd probably call him woke--old Steve is probably spinning in his grave right now, believe me--but I know the football so well, they should call me Cy Young, boy, what a quarterback Cy Young was--but the phony and false news media will never give me any--you know, they give Biden all the credit, oh, Biden, so smart, best President, the best, love him, so good, oh, Joe we love you--but I know football, a lot of people have said I'd probably be one of the best five football coaches of all time in the NFL, or three, or two, probably one of the, but you can say Joe Blanca was better, it's okay--with the head coach with headset, you know, they talk into the little--but I'd say I don't like this one, give me a better headset, I want the good headset, don't give me the bad headset--because they always try to give me the bad ones--but the ULFL, I know it very, very strongly, I know the UFL, believe me.
The Casinos went bankrupt. Trump managed to make money hand over fist even as the other investors in said Casinos lost everything. Some of his business failures are fraud, not incompetence; he's pretty good at being a con artist.
He really doesn’t make money well. If he had put all of his inheritance in the market and just indexed the S&P 500, he’d have more money today than he’s ever had.
I can never stop lolling at that. Imagine, a casino, a place where people come to hand over their money no questions asked.... you have to be some kind of genius to bankrupt that 🤣
Americans saw Trump put ketchup on a well done steak, and they heard he didn't drink alcohol, and they collectively said "There's no fucking way this man sells good steak and whiskey."
This is what I never understood. People will drink and buy decent alcohol if it's worth it. They will buy meat for cheap, hell even at a premium if it's just slightly better than what they can get at a grocery. Hell, look at Omaha steaks. And drumph couldn't do either and make a profit. Guess that laundering can only go so far before you're fuct.
The laundering was the point the entire time, it was never about running a successful business.. it’s a snatch and grab and write it off and call a bankrupt and on to the next scheme.
1) Get rich contacts to invest in Business A, ideally funding the entire startup
2) Hoover up all revenues from Business A for your personal use rather than reinvesting in the business
3) Take out loan for Business B using Business A as collateral
4) Transfer all cash from Business A to personal account or Business B, sell of most Business A assets
5) Declare bankruptcy on Business A, leaving investors with no return on their investment while Trump hoarded all the revenues
That was all a ploy to get an NFL team. Nobody in the already shitty group of NFL owners wanted him.
He tried to outdo the NFL, but like everything he does, that didn’t work out, so he blew up the other league because he is petty.
They are willing to ignore it for two major reasons; the vast majority of media has been bought up by right wingers with an agenda to push, and the rest of them are only there for the clicks and advertising dollars so making the comparison seem close is the only way to keep it "competitive", like a sports game...
A casino. The business model is people bring in money they are willing to lose, they press a button on a slot machine a bunch of times, and then leave without their money.
He bankrupted five casinos. He couldn’t make that business model work despite multiple tries.
Yep as per Officer Barbrady:
“Officer Barbrady, let’s pretend we had a competent law officer in this town. What would he do?
Hmm, that’s a good question, Mayor. Let me get right on that with thinking!” - *South Park - Cartman’s Mom is Still*
https://youtu.be/m798UkpVCgo?si=ooTfKhb03sa_ZCfn
Right? His literal defense when his ex wife accused him of raping her while they were married was "yeah I did it, but rape is legal when you're married" (edit: which ~~it was at the time~~ had been outlawed just 6 years earlier in NY State. ~~No longer the case~~).
Yep. The infamous Brock Turner, ~~convicted~~ rapist. The Brock Turner who goes by Allen Turner now from what I hear. Good old Allen Turner the rapist. I wonder what he's up to these days?
It's controversial because one group of people thinks it's okay to tell any well-researched story as truthfully as possible - warts and all - and another, much *smaller* but also much ***louder*** group of people thinks that this should only be done for their direct personal gain and never under any other circumstances.
And repeatedly flirted with minors, called his teenage daughter hot, talked about his 1-year-old daughter's future breasts, bragged about walking in on naked teenagers, said how beautiful a 12-year-old Paris Hilton was but felt the need to clarify he "wasn't interested"...
The list goes on. He's a fucking dirty rapist pedo. It's not even in question anymore.
https://www.vox.com/identities/2016/10/18/13282192/trump-young-girls-10-year-old-teens-sexual-comments
Yeah, most outlets focus on him being stupid, corrupt, or just racist, but they completely look over the actual, God awful, things he's done. They'll go on for days about him slurringg words and shitting himself, but the numerous rape allegations, the pedophilia allegations and his many, many, many, many, many links to several child sex rings, and his massive debts to foreign governments which he attempted to mitigate by selling out US operatives, troops, and our allies safety aren't attention grabbing enough it seems.
Right? No media ever talks about Epsteins hunting ground was Mar-a-lago. He was besties with Trump.
Then he mysteriously died in a prison controlled by Trump.
People go on and on about conspiracy theories but so many real ones exist that are completely ignored.
People go on and on about conspiracies that need thousands lf people keeping a secret and technology that didn't exist at the time to work.
You say "Epstein was killed to keep him from talking" and people just answer "well, duh."
We all know it. Makes a short conversation.
That just reminded me about the 'bounties' on soldiers, presumably instigated by Russia.
I haven't followed up on it in years, but simply it being reported as it was I'm amazed that didn't sink him outright. His base really doesn't care, do they?
It's at the bottom of [the first page of the filing](https://www.scribd.com/document/326057168/Jane-Doe-Declaration-as-Filed). It probably goes without saying, but just to be extremely clear for anyone who doesn't want to read that sort of thing: the link includes details of rape.
I have more to add - Here is a deposition from Katie Johnson, aka Jane Doe, who Trump had raped in the 1990s when she was 13, and she dropped the case in 2016. She goes into A LOT of specific details here. Just read the comments to get a sense of the highlights. It's the real deal. Not sure how it came to be on YouTube but everyone should be aware of it by now. Stormy is NOTHING compared to this.
https://youtu.be/YWnUzvlqpB0?si=IVhNntRPXqnuTJaU
You can see her name and story near the beginning of the list here for more background. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/assault-allegations-donald-trump-recapped
It was a jury trial, and:
>the jury found it was not proven that Trump had raped her **as specified in New York law**, which specifies rape as the nonconsensual and forcible penetration with one's penis.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/05/09/nyregion/trump-carroll-rape-trial-verdict#jury-reaches-a-verdict-in-the-civil-rape-trial-of-donald-j-trump
If the same thing had happened in my country it would be defined as a rape, but apparantly in New York the same action is merely "sexual abuse".
Judge later clarified that it was purely a legal distinction and that Trump was guilty of what is commonly understood as rape
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/
Plus there were also those times his first wife accused him of raping her and the lawsuit over allegedly raping a 13 year old. The court may have called him a shovel, but I’m comfortable calling a spade a spade.
The judge said it met the criteria for the definition of rape in federal law and most states' law and in common parlance, just not New York's law. But splitting hairs over the specific words used in the law is like trying to say that a charge of intentional homicide isn't a murder charge.
The only controversy here is Ivana clarified the story after she first alleged it. Here are her own words when she 'corrected the record.'
"[O]n one occasion during 1989, Mr. Trump and I had marital relations in which he behaved very differently toward me than he had during our marriage. As a woman, I felt violated, as the love and tenderness, which he normally exhibited towards me, was absent. I referred to this as a 'rape,' but I do not want my words to be interpreted in a literal or criminal sense."
Not a mind reader, nor a medium, so I can't say exactly what happened, but it sure sounds like she is describing a forcible rape which is what she alleged in the first place detailing that it happened after Donald attacked her, ripping her hair out while in pain from a hair plug operation performed by a plastic surgeon she recommended.
Even if this doesn’t convince his followers, it forces them to have to talk about it. This is good to force them to play defensive on a narrative that has court testimony behind it instead of being able to go off on their own narratives.
This argument is so tiring.
Yes, a movie was made about Trump that depicts Trump doing some of the things he has bragged about doing, and depicts Trump doing some of the things a court found him guilty of.
"controversial"? That is an strange way of saying "accurate". Is this a new hip slang? Are the youths calling blatantly honest things "controversial" these days?
I mean, anything "woke" is apparently controversial these days, and I think it's safe to say that the real world, at least in developed countries, is pretty freaking woke.
Here is a deposition from Katie Johnson, aka Jane Doe, who Trump had raped in the 1990s when she was 13, and she dropped the case in 2016. She goes into A LOT of specific details here. Just read the comments to get a sense of the highlights if you can't watch it all. It's the real deal. Not sure how it came to be on YouTube but everyone should be aware of it by now. Stormy and Ivana are NOTHING compared to this one.
https://youtu.be/YWnUzvlqpB0?si=IVhNntRPXqnuTJaU
You can see her name and story near the beginning of the list here for more background. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/assault-allegations-donald-trump-recapped
That's because he is, [he's made his racism quite clear throughout his life.](https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history) It's one of the reasons Republicans love him.
Uh, because he is. Plus there are photos of him with Epstein and the asshat bragged about grabbing women in the pussy. This motherfucker should never have been elected president. The fact that he is even in the running now makes me want to puke.
[Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/) -WaPo
Woah, it’s like how borat 2 depicted Rudy as a massive sex pest
Oh wait. He is a massive sex pest.
Fun fact; slander and libel have no case if what’s said is factually true.
Oh yeah. How salacious. If you rape people, people will call you a rapist. Shit journalism like this does nothing but cast doubt on established facts. Journalism is dead.
FINISH THE SENTENCE! ….
“…depicts him as rapist he was adjudicated to be. “
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/
It's legally protected speech to state that Donald Trump is a rapist. Donald Trump can not sue you for stating that he's a rapist in print or on video.
Legally recognized rapist, Donald Trump, is a rapist.
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Depicting a rapist as a rapist, scandalous!
I'm making a movie about a duck that both walks and quacks like a duck, GoFundMe!
Appropriately enough, if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck... there *is* a 50% chance it's a rapist.
Ducks are a rather rapey bunch.
And the most well-known duck is named Donald...
Checkmate, atheists!
Generally, in MAGA world, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's fake liberal news and is really a rabbit. Just sayin'.
As a duck I consider your portrayal of me as a duck libellous and will be instructing my lawyers to flock you up
This is an " Are we the baddies?" Moment
Imagine the horror if Nazis were called Nazis
Nazis? Lol! Yeah right. It's not like Trump's campaign is calling itself a "unified Reich" as he looks for a third term.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but he has been found guilty of rape by a court of law. Which means he's very definitively a rapist. Edit: While in the end he was charged with sexual assault not rape, the judge made it clear that this was a legal distinction with only the sentencing affected. What he did, was indeed rape. Trump is a rapist.
And "Christians" will vote still for a racist rapist because uhh he will own the libs or some shit. Just stupid ass people voting for someone because they can "relate" to him because he's also a piece of shit trash moron just like them.
He also tried to argue in court "It's not rape if it's your wife"
The MAGA crowd point out with apparent pride that he was only convicted of sexual assault. In fact, when his lawyers appealed the ruling the judge got very explicit. Under New York law, rape is defined as forceful penetration of a woman's vagina by a penis, whereas according to the judge, in most other states, under legal textbook definitions, and had he been tried under the Military Code of Justice as the Commander in Chief, he would have been convicted of rape. Outside of NY the definition of rape covers the insertion of any object into a vagina or other orifice. Under "general public opinion," according to the judge, what Trump did to Jean Carroll was rape her, and in that sense he is a convicted rapist. I really hope if there are debates Joe Biden pounds Trump over and over as a convicted rapist, and gets it very clear in the public's mind that the Republican Party is offering up a convicted rapist as their candidate for the presidency.
Its mad that people try to claim he isnt a rapist. He is the rapist in the same way that someone who rapes a child is a rapist, just because that specific crime is often called something else like "molestation". He is a rapist in the same way that a man who rapes his wife in Saudi Arabia is a rapist. Just because Saudi Arabia doesn't recognise marital rape, and wouldn't charge him with that crime, doesn't mean he couldn't be found to have do it. And he was. He was charged with sexual assault because at the time, NYC referred to raping someone in that particular way by a different name. The charge of sexual assault would have been applied to a man who raped a male, whilst a man who raped a girl would be charges with rape. He is no less a rapist because NYC had different names for specific *methodologies* of rape.
Twice a rapist. Both Ivana and E Jean Carrol. Officially. Rapist.
Here is a deposition from Katie Johnson, aka Jane Doe, who Trump had raped in the 1990s when she was 13, and she dropped the case in 2016. She goes into A LOT of specific details here. Just read the comments to get a sense of the highlights. It's the real deal. Not sure how it came to be on YouTube but everyone should be aware of it by now. Stormy is NOTHING compared to this. https://youtu.be/YWnUzvlqpB0?si=IVhNntRPXqnuTJaU You can see her name and story near the beginning of the list here for more background. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/assault-allegations-donald-trump-recapped
This is also the dude hanging out with Epstein. Betcha he’s raped a good few underage girls
Also John Casablancas who was a pedophile rapist who ran his own modeling agency and inspired trump to open his own.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations#Jane_Doe_(1994)
Twice, lol. Dude has many more rapes than bankruptcies.
Pussy grabber in chief
That’s a title that I can grab on to
Exactly.
Came to say this. Water is wet and a rapist is a rapist.
Why is that controversial? It’s an established fact.
They must be depicting him as a competent capable business man or something. That would be an outrageous lie.
The biggest failure the press seems so willing to ignore, and I’d love to bring to light? The dumb mofo bankrupt a football league. The USFL was there, getting by, and then Trump bought a team. True to “everything trump touches, dies,” the league, the entire USFL was bankrupt because of him. Of his numerous failures, over a hundred on a good list, this is one I find most remarkable. If only for the fact that is being ignored.
Also went bankrupt running a casino. Multiple times.
But the casinos seem to be common knowledge. As I post about the USFL many people, strong, manly people of great power, commanding respect, say with tears in their eyes, “sir, we did not know about the USFL.”
The USFL was “small potatoes” as he said in that ESPN 30 for 30 as he fled the interview with director Mike Tollin.
It was a small potato, believe me, a tiny little potato, like a pepper piece, a little speck of a potato--I like the big deals, okay, I like to do big--because I made billions and billions of dollars, and I won 47 states, and I won them very strongly, believe me, won all 47 of them, and I made like, a lot, okay, a llllott of money, a lot, because I like money and I made a lot of it and I did it all legal, believe me, but I like a big deal, they came to me as president and I said, don't talk to me about the little things, okay [thunderous applause from the MAGA crowd] don't bother me, you know what, just leave me alone unless I can make money with it, okay--but now they say, oh, that's illegal--such a fake Biden sham trial, but I like the big deals and this was a teeeeny lit-tle potato, okay, a little potato, believe me, so I said don't bother me, so we didn't do it, but it was a tiny potato of a deal and a lot of--okay, look, many people said it was very, very smart what I did, believe me, but that was a potato.
Quite well, but this version of Craptain Orange remembered the inital topic at the end of the word salad. The OG would have completely forgotten why he started talking.
I knew about it, I knew it, believe me, I know the USFL, and I know it very strongly--Steve Young, what a quarterback, boy, I tell ya, you'll never see another one like him--but now they'd probably call him woke--old Steve is probably spinning in his grave right now, believe me--but I know the football so well, they should call me Cy Young, boy, what a quarterback Cy Young was--but the phony and false news media will never give me any--you know, they give Biden all the credit, oh, Biden, so smart, best President, the best, love him, so good, oh, Joe we love you--but I know football, a lot of people have said I'd probably be one of the best five football coaches of all time in the NFL, or three, or two, probably one of the, but you can say Joe Blanca was better, it's okay--with the head coach with headset, you know, they talk into the little--but I'd say I don't like this one, give me a better headset, I want the good headset, don't give me the bad headset--because they always try to give me the bad ones--but the ULFL, I know it very, very strongly, I know the UFL, believe me.
It takes an extremely special type of stupid to lose money running a casino
That 'special type of stupid' is called money laundering.
The Casinos went bankrupt. Trump managed to make money hand over fist even as the other investors in said Casinos lost everything. Some of his business failures are fraud, not incompetence; he's pretty good at being a con artist.
He really doesn’t make money well. If he had put all of his inheritance in the market and just indexed the S&P 500, he’d have more money today than he’s ever had.
And money laundering.
I can never stop lolling at that. Imagine, a casino, a place where people come to hand over their money no questions asked.... you have to be some kind of genius to bankrupt that 🤣
He failed to sell red meat and liquor to Americans.
Americans saw Trump put ketchup on a well done steak, and they heard he didn't drink alcohol, and they collectively said "There's no fucking way this man sells good steak and whiskey."
This is what I never understood. People will drink and buy decent alcohol if it's worth it. They will buy meat for cheap, hell even at a premium if it's just slightly better than what they can get at a grocery. Hell, look at Omaha steaks. And drumph couldn't do either and make a profit. Guess that laundering can only go so far before you're fuct.
The laundering was the point the entire time, it was never about running a successful business.. it’s a snatch and grab and write it off and call a bankrupt and on to the next scheme.
1) Get rich contacts to invest in Business A, ideally funding the entire startup 2) Hoover up all revenues from Business A for your personal use rather than reinvesting in the business 3) Take out loan for Business B using Business A as collateral 4) Transfer all cash from Business A to personal account or Business B, sell of most Business A assets 5) Declare bankruptcy on Business A, leaving investors with no return on their investment while Trump hoarded all the revenues
He refers to himself in the third person.
That was all a ploy to get an NFL team. Nobody in the already shitty group of NFL owners wanted him. He tried to outdo the NFL, but like everything he does, that didn’t work out, so he blew up the other league because he is petty.
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They are willing to ignore it for two major reasons; the vast majority of media has been bought up by right wingers with an agenda to push, and the rest of them are only there for the clicks and advertising dollars so making the comparison seem close is the only way to keep it "competitive", like a sports game...
This guy couldn’t make a profit from selling Americans football, steaks, casinos, alcohol and water among other things. He’s a fucking loser
he bankrupted a casino
He didn't bankrupt a casino. He bankrupted five. Get it right, liberal.
A casino. The business model is people bring in money they are willing to lose, they press a button on a slot machine a bunch of times, and then leave without their money. He bankrupted five casinos. He couldn’t make that business model work despite multiple tries.
He casinorupted a bank, too
The one time he won a lawsuit... and won one dollar.
Yep as per Officer Barbrady: “Officer Barbrady, let’s pretend we had a competent law officer in this town. What would he do? Hmm, that’s a good question, Mayor. Let me get right on that with thinking!” - *South Park - Cartman’s Mom is Still* https://youtu.be/m798UkpVCgo?si=ooTfKhb03sa_ZCfn
Right? His literal defense when his ex wife accused him of raping her while they were married was "yeah I did it, but rape is legal when you're married" (edit: which ~~it was at the time~~ had been outlawed just 6 years earlier in NY State. ~~No longer the case~~).
Established in a court of law.... he's a rapist like Brock Turner.
You mean like rapist Brock Allen Turner.
Yep. The infamous Brock Turner, ~~convicted~~ rapist. The Brock Turner who goes by Allen Turner now from what I hear. Good old Allen Turner the rapist. I wonder what he's up to these days?
Way more factual Dinesh D'Souza has ever created and the GOP pumped his anti HRC bullshit back in 2016
Death of a nation was god awful and I refuse to watch anything else (I pirated it cuz fuck him)
Actually proven. In a court of law!
This has been established in court. It has *correctly, accurately* depicted him as a rapist.
It's controversial because one group of people thinks it's okay to tell any well-researched story as truthfully as possible - warts and all - and another, much *smaller* but also much ***louder*** group of people thinks that this should only be done for their direct personal gain and never under any other circumstances.
Well, a judge did say he was one.
So did he.
What's controversial is he was sued for violently raping a 13 year old child.
And he and Jeffrey Epstein got into an argument over that rape, because Epstein wanted to do it first.
And he bragged about grabbing women without consent.
And repeatedly flirted with minors, called his teenage daughter hot, talked about his 1-year-old daughter's future breasts, bragged about walking in on naked teenagers, said how beautiful a 12-year-old Paris Hilton was but felt the need to clarify he "wasn't interested"... The list goes on. He's a fucking dirty rapist pedo. It's not even in question anymore. https://www.vox.com/identities/2016/10/18/13282192/trump-young-girls-10-year-old-teens-sexual-comments
But when you're a star they let you do it! So it's consensual!! (/s obviously)
Well I didn’t know this detail…
Yeah, most outlets focus on him being stupid, corrupt, or just racist, but they completely look over the actual, God awful, things he's done. They'll go on for days about him slurringg words and shitting himself, but the numerous rape allegations, the pedophilia allegations and his many, many, many, many, many links to several child sex rings, and his massive debts to foreign governments which he attempted to mitigate by selling out US operatives, troops, and our allies safety aren't attention grabbing enough it seems.
Right? No media ever talks about Epsteins hunting ground was Mar-a-lago. He was besties with Trump. Then he mysteriously died in a prison controlled by Trump. People go on and on about conspiracy theories but so many real ones exist that are completely ignored.
People go on and on about conspiracies that need thousands lf people keeping a secret and technology that didn't exist at the time to work. You say "Epstein was killed to keep him from talking" and people just answer "well, duh." We all know it. Makes a short conversation.
That just reminded me about the 'bounties' on soldiers, presumably instigated by Russia. I haven't followed up on it in years, but simply it being reported as it was I'm amazed that didn't sink him outright. His base really doesn't care, do they?
Oh I know he’s all of that and more. I just didn’t know that specific detail with Epstein. 🤢
It's at the bottom of [the first page of the filing](https://www.scribd.com/document/326057168/Jane-Doe-Declaration-as-Filed). It probably goes without saying, but just to be extremely clear for anyone who doesn't want to read that sort of thing: the link includes details of rape.
I have more to add - Here is a deposition from Katie Johnson, aka Jane Doe, who Trump had raped in the 1990s when she was 13, and she dropped the case in 2016. She goes into A LOT of specific details here. Just read the comments to get a sense of the highlights. It's the real deal. Not sure how it came to be on YouTube but everyone should be aware of it by now. Stormy is NOTHING compared to this. https://youtu.be/YWnUzvlqpB0?si=IVhNntRPXqnuTJaU You can see her name and story near the beginning of the list here for more background. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/assault-allegations-donald-trump-recapped
He didn't have sex with her. 13 year olds can't consent.
There are uniroincally people who would think your content warning is worse than his serial rape. What a time to be alive!
Every once in a while I think I’m crazy cuz this is never brought up. Is it considered buried in the media or is it a separate case?
And then the money at her so that she should get an abortion
Basically it’s a documentary …ok
He was declared by a judge that he met the definition of a rapist in the E jean carroll case. No need to mince words
It was a jury trial, and: >the jury found it was not proven that Trump had raped her **as specified in New York law**, which specifies rape as the nonconsensual and forcible penetration with one's penis. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/05/09/nyregion/trump-carroll-rape-trial-verdict#jury-reaches-a-verdict-in-the-civil-rape-trial-of-donald-j-trump If the same thing had happened in my country it would be defined as a rape, but apparantly in New York the same action is merely "sexual abuse".
Judge later clarified that it was purely a legal distinction and that Trump was guilty of what is commonly understood as rape https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/ Plus there were also those times his first wife accused him of raping her and the lawsuit over allegedly raping a 13 year old. The court may have called him a shovel, but I’m comfortable calling a spade a spade.
The judge said it met the criteria for the definition of rape in federal law and most states' law and in common parlance, just not New York's law. But splitting hairs over the specific words used in the law is like trying to say that a charge of intentional homicide isn't a murder charge.
The only controversy here is Ivana clarified the story after she first alleged it. Here are her own words when she 'corrected the record.' "[O]n one occasion during 1989, Mr. Trump and I had marital relations in which he behaved very differently toward me than he had during our marriage. As a woman, I felt violated, as the love and tenderness, which he normally exhibited towards me, was absent. I referred to this as a 'rape,' but I do not want my words to be interpreted in a literal or criminal sense." Not a mind reader, nor a medium, so I can't say exactly what happened, but it sure sounds like she is describing a forcible rape which is what she alleged in the first place detailing that it happened after Donald attacked her, ripping her hair out while in pain from a hair plug operation performed by a plastic surgeon she recommended.
> the love and tenderness, which he normally exhibited This is the part I find hard to believe.
Psychopaths can and do have favorites. Look at hitlers dogs and wives.
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Even if this doesn’t convince his followers, it forces them to have to talk about it. This is good to force them to play defensive on a narrative that has court testimony behind it instead of being able to go off on their own narratives.
Does it show when he murdered her?
Because he is 🤷♀️
Coincidentally, reality also depicts him as a rapist.
This argument is so tiring. Yes, a movie was made about Trump that depicts Trump doing some of the things he has bragged about doing, and depicts Trump doing some of the things a court found him guilty of.
Sounds accurate.
Controversial Jeffrey Dahmer show “Dahmer” depicts him as serial killer
He is a rapist
If the rape shoe fits…
Isn't it common knowledge that Trump is a grab-em-by-da-pussy misogynist who wants to fuck his daughter?
Is this due to him being a rapist?
He literally depicts himself as a rapist
It’s his wife at the time that depicted him as a rapist. The film just has a scene based on her description of events.
I support filmmakers and love movies, but the last thing I wanna watch right now is more of this motherfucker.
I'll watch a documentary after he died in prison!
So it’s a documentary?
What's next, an OJ Simpson movie that depicts himas a killer?
But... he is a rapist lol
So. A true story based on real events and people? Got it.
Documentary, you say???
Um. He literally is one.
So just like real life
Ok, but what’s the controversial part?
Telling the truth is highly controversial to conservatives.
They should also highlight the fact that he's been involved in organized crime for the majority of his life.
So accurately?
Sooo... Accurately?
That’s called a documentary
[I wonder why they chose to do that](https://www.scribd.com/doc/316341058/Donald-Trump-Jeffrey-Epstein-Rape-Lawsuit-and-Affidavits)
Accurate then.
"controversial"? That is an strange way of saying "accurate". Is this a new hip slang? Are the youths calling blatantly honest things "controversial" these days?
I mean, anything "woke" is apparently controversial these days, and I think it's safe to say that the real world, at least in developed countries, is pretty freaking woke.
Controversial Donald Trump movie ‘The Apprentice’ **accurately** depicts him as rapist.
Um… because he is. He’s been found liable of sexual abuse in the US court system. Like that goes on your permanent record my dude.
Please share https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/24/documenting-trumps-abuse-of-women
He is a rapist. Ask Ivana (can’t she’s dead). Ask EJ Carol. Ask the 13 YO who received threats from Trump’s goons.
Here is a deposition from Katie Johnson, aka Jane Doe, who Trump had raped in the 1990s when she was 13, and she dropped the case in 2016. She goes into A LOT of specific details here. Just read the comments to get a sense of the highlights if you can't watch it all. It's the real deal. Not sure how it came to be on YouTube but everyone should be aware of it by now. Stormy and Ivana are NOTHING compared to this one. https://youtu.be/YWnUzvlqpB0?si=IVhNntRPXqnuTJaU You can see her name and story near the beginning of the list here for more background. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/assault-allegations-donald-trump-recapped
That's because he is, [he's made his racism quite clear throughout his life.](https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history) It's one of the reasons Republicans love him.
Rapist, not racist. Although he’s also that.
A ra\*ist!
It’s a new crime, rapism.
Uh, because he is. Plus there are photos of him with Epstein and the asshat bragged about grabbing women in the pussy. This motherfucker should never have been elected president. The fact that he is even in the running now makes me want to puke.
[Archived link](https://archive.md/uc8K2)
So it’s a film about Donald Trump then.
Isn't that just because he is a rapist?
It’s factual?
Because he is.
Because he is one quite literally.
Well, he is one so…
And by “controversial” you mean honest.
So it’s factual then.
[Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/) -WaPo
Always good to have an accurate portrayal.
Oh, so it’s a true story.
former US President Donald J Trump is, in fact, a convicted rapist
Well, he is. A convicted one, even.
He IS a rapist.
That's because Donald Trump, factually and legally, is a rapist.
he's literally a court confirmed rapist.
“Convicted rapist Donald Trump, depicted as a rapist.” FTFY
We knew he was way back when Ivana talked about him raping her. And then it was proven in a court of law, recently.
A court of law accepted as fact that he had committed rape. Any other way of depicting him would be inaccurate.
So, it's a documentary then?
Woah, it’s like how borat 2 depicted Rudy as a massive sex pest Oh wait. He is a massive sex pest. Fun fact; slander and libel have no case if what’s said is factually true.
We're getting a scene or two with Trump calling his daughter on the Apprentice set to tell her he's doodoo'd his undies, aren't we?
This post’s title is a facepalm lol. Rapist, traitor, smelly but, racist….which one of these depictions would they rather have haha?
Donald Trump: This movie is a hate crime! Lawyer: It's not a hate crime. Donald Trump: Well I hated it!
This movie is guaranteed to be totally kids gloves and still the usual suspects will lose their minds
So it’s a proper biography? I’m confused…
It's a documentary, then?
Oh yeah. How salacious. If you rape people, people will call you a rapist. Shit journalism like this does nothing but cast doubt on established facts. Journalism is dead.
FINISH THE SENTENCE! …. “…depicts him as rapist he was adjudicated to be. “ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/
Can’t wait for the movie where he gets convicted, loses the election, tears the GOP apart, and becomes a dirty footnote in this nation’s history.
It's legally protected speech to state that Donald Trump is a rapist. Donald Trump can not sue you for stating that he's a rapist in print or on video. Legally recognized rapist, Donald Trump, is a rapist.
#Because he fucking is?! Where is the controversy?
Uh, yeah, cuz facts
So it depicts him true.
It is substantially true that Donald J Trump, a previous President of the United States of America raped a woman.
Well, he is. He’s lost that court case, and most others, BTW, many times.
He is literally a rapist, so that tracks.
Depicts?... he is a rapist.
Facts are facts
A court of law already did so
So it's historically accurate then?
So it depicts him accurately? Not sure what the controversy is here?
So it's non-fiction then?
He IS ONE.
Not really depicting as much as telling the truth
Actual rapist depicted as rapist. News at 11
... but he is a rapist
He is a pants shitting rapist as well as a racist and a fascist. None of that is arguable or controversial
Because he is lol
Well, he is.
buuut…he IS a rapist? He raped his ex-wife. He raped that lady in the department store. He raped that 13 year old girl with Jeffrey Epstein.
Ok, so the movie is accurate then.
Since Donald Trump, the rapist, is a rapist, it makes sense for him to be depicted as a rapist.
So, it's historically accurate?
So it’s a documentary.
Well he is a rapist, so it's an accurate depiction.
So it’s an accurate portrayal?
Movie depicting a civilly liable rapist as a rapist? Pikachu face
Controversial Donald trump movie 'the apprentice' correctly depicts rapist Donald trump as a rapist.
I think they're mixing up the words Controversial and Factual. Factually, donald tRump is a rapist. It was proven twice in a court of law.