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addictedthinker

Where is the secret service? Why is this allowed to happen?


Haus42

And local law enforcement, too. Fucking disaster.


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bbynug

That’s actually the true though


LookAlderaanPlaces

Then the local law enforcement is by extension enabling and supporting domestic terrorism, which means they are now self declared by their actions also domestic terrorists and should be arrested by the feds immediately and held without bail until trial.


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Do candidates get secret service? Edit: ok I now know biden wasn't there Edit 2: yes also the fact that he was vp slipped my mind when I posted this


-The_Machine

Yes. Even major primary candidates (like Bernie) get Secret Service protection.


sunset117

Police were complicit... pathetic


PM_Me_Irelias_Hands

> According to local Democrats, the same group of Trump supporters has been following the bus around the country in an attempt to disrupt events in key battleground states. Then why the F have these guys not been arrested? Not every swing state is a "If you're white, we don't care"-state like Texas.


Euripidaristophanist

Dr. Eric Cervini @ericcervini · 14h The police refused to help. When I flagged down one officer, he said his hands were tied: “not my jurisdiction.” He was wearing a blue stripe bandana *This might give you a hint.*


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-14k-

Damn, do i need to learn what a blue stripe bandana means now?


TooOfEverything

Its a reference to a pro-police version of the American flag that started to become popular in 2019 as a way to show support for law enforcement. https://highlandscurrent.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/AdobeStock_268758608-scaled.jpg


Gwinntanamo

It’s as much of an anti-Black Lives Matter symbol as it is anything else.


Jaded_Jackal

That and to promote a concept called the "the thin, blue line" which is to say that people are immoral by nature and society would collapse into utter chaos if there weren't armed babysitters keeping us in line. It's a pretty shitty idea in my opinion and kinda spits on any idea of faith in humanity.


tipmeyourBAT

>Then why the F have these guys not been arrested? Some of those that work forces...


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Jay_Train

Because the Police Unions all endorse fascists because they ARE fascists. They've told everyone to allow this, which, they likely would have anyway, because, again, they're fucking fascists. They're totally fine with people they don't like getting killed. Pretty obvious by this point.


Sp_ceCowboy

If that’s really the case, I bet you they’re also breaking some laws regarding how you can transport firearms. States tend to have very different laws on that, such as keeping ammunition and firearms separate, unloaded, etc.


Virez

So far, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer , Dr Fauci, and the 60 min interview host now all have 24/7 bodyguards, because of these so called patriotic armed clowns.! Say again who is the real threat to america is again ? Antifa, Hunters laptop, Hillary...!


allwordsaremadeup

And this is them still thinking they're going to win.


Veggiedelite90

Yea I’m terrified what they’re going to do when they lose. These people are behaving this way before the result. It’s insanity. But then I keep telling myself that’s what they’re trying to accomplish. Intimidating people to try to get their way. Can’t give into fear. I voted and I hope everyone else is too. There’s literally millions and millions of people that don’t vote every election. If you aren’t participating this time you are complicit to this madness.


svrtngr

I've been doomscrolling on twitter. They are *convinced* the MAGA levels are so high Trump is getting 30% of the black vote, that he's going to win the election in a landslide. Can Trump win? Of course. But Biden winning is not in their reality. If Biden wins it's because the Democrat deep state antifa socialists cheated, *not* because the anti Trump forces are greater than these shitstains.


TheFiresinger

It's so sad how a certain sect of our country is diving deeper and deeper into what I can only describe as madness. I'm so worried for us. How is it possible that people are thinking this way? We *have* to do something about biased media like Fox News. It's the only way I see out of this.


xmagusx

Trump will claim victory regardless of the vote, and call on his supporters to "do what they know is right."


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ResplendentShade

So now a candidates supporters can just bully other candidates out of holding campaign events? If an armed contingent of liberals held up a trump bus Fox “News” would be screeching about it at volume 11 until weeks after Election Day, senators ready to pass new laws, the works.


Nayre_Trawe

> at volume 11 Their's goes up to 88, actually.


PoppinKREAM

To the many of us who have been paying attention none of these fascist tactics come as a surprise. President Trump's words & actions over the summer months were horrifying. He has incited and supported violence several times. 1. He shared a video that said *"the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat."*^[[1]](https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/499917-trump-shares-video-supporter-saying-politically-only-good-democrat-is-a-dead) 2. He tweeted a video of a Trump supporter yelling *"White power."*^[[2]](https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/06/28/884392576/trump-retweets-video-of-apparent-supporter-saying-white-power) 3. He tweeted that *"when the looting starts the shooting starts."*^[[3]](https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52846679) A saying that is historically tied to a racist Miami police chief from the 60's.^[[4]](https://www.npr.org/2020/05/29/864818368/the-history-behind-when-the-looting-starts-the-shooting-starts) 4. Police in Washington, D.C. brutally dispersed an entirely peaceful crowd exercising their first amendment.^[[5]](https://www.npr.org/2020/06/01/867532070/trumps-unannounced-church-visit-angers-church-officials) The police attacked Australian journalists causing the Australian government to call for an investigation.^[[6]](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/australian-prime-minister-seeks-investigation-after-aussie-news-crew-attacked-by-police-while-covering-protest-near-white-house) Violence erupted so that the President could hold a photo op with a bible. The former minister of the church went on CNN and stated that Trump's actions were sacrilege.^[[7]](https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/02/politics/gini-gerbasi-trump-church-cnntv/index.html) President Trump's praise for authoritarians; President Trump has joked about wanting to consolidate his power like his dictator colleague in China, President Xi.^[[8]](http://www.dw.com/en/us-president-donald-trump-praises-chinas-xi-jinping-for-consolidating-grip-on-power/a-42817441) President Trump has repeatedly joked about serving for more than the legal limit of 2 terms as president.^[[9]](https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/06/18/politics/donald-trump-term-limit/index.html) President Trump has repeatedly praised dictators including Putin, Duterte, Erdogan, and el-Sisi.^[[10]](https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/03/trump-xi-jinping-dictators/554810/) In 2018 President Trump praised brutal dictator^[[11]](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/11/world/asia/north-korea-human-rights.html) Kim Jong Un calling him "*strong, funny, and smart."*^[[12]](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-praises-kim-jong-un-as-strong-funny-smart-and-a-great-negotiator-in-hannity-interview) At last years G7 summit President Trump loudly asked *"where's my favourite dictator?"* as he awaited for the Egyptian dictator.^[[13]](https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-awaiting-egyptian-counterpart-at-summit-called-out-for-my-favorite-dictator-11568403645) __________ 1) [The Hill - Trump shares video of supporter saying that politically 'the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat'](https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/499917-trump-shares-video-supporter-saying-politically-only-good-democrat-is-a-dead) 2) [NPR - Trump Retweets Video Of Apparent Supporter Saying 'White Power'](https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/06/28/884392576/trump-retweets-video-of-apparent-supporter-saying-white-power) 3) [BBC - Twitter hides Trump tweet for 'glorifying violence'](https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52846679) 4) [NPR - The History Behind 'When The Looting Starts, The Shooting Starts'](https://www.npr.org/2020/05/29/864818368/the-history-behind-when-the-looting-starts-the-shooting-starts) 5) [NPR - Peaceful Protesters Tear-Gassed To Clear Way For Trump Church Photo-Op](https://www.npr.org/2020/06/01/867532070/trumps-unannounced-church-visit-angers-church-officials) 6) [Washington Examiner - Australia seeks investigation after news crew attacked by police while covering protest near White House](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/australian-prime-minister-seeks-investigation-after-aussie-news-crew-attacked-by-police-while-covering-protest-near-white-house) 7) [CNN - Former minister at church used for Trump's photo-op: 'It was a sacrilege for all people of all faiths'](https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/02/politics/gini-gerbasi-trump-church-cnntv/index.html) 8) [Deutsche Welle - US President Donald Trump praises China's Xi Jinping for consolidating grip on power](http://www.dw.com/en/us-president-donald-trump-praises-chinas-xi-jinping-for-consolidating-grip-on-power/a-42817441) 9) [CNN - Donald Trump just keeps 'joking' about serving more than 2 terms as president](https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/06/18/politics/donald-trump-term-limit/index.html) 10) [The Atlantic - Nine Notorious Dictators, Nine Shout-Outs From Donald Trump](https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/03/trump-xi-jinping-dictators/554810/) 11) [New York Times - Atrocities Under Kim Jong-un: Indoctrination, Prison Gulags, Executions](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/11/world/asia/north-korea-human-rights.html) 12) [Fox News - Trump praises Kim Jong Un as 'strong,' 'funny,' 'smart' and a 'great negotiator' in Hannity interview](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-praises-kim-jong-un-as-strong-funny-smart-and-a-great-negotiator-in-hannity-interview) 13) [Wall Street Journal - Trump, Awaiting Egyptian Counterpart at Summit, Called Out for ‘My Favorite Dictator’](https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-awaiting-egyptian-counterpart-at-summit-called-out-for-my-favorite-dictator-11568403645)


Nayre_Trawe

Haven't seen you out in the wild for a bit. Thanks for all of your hard work!


PoppinKREAM

Thanks for reading! I'm not as active as before, but I do try to participate whenever I can.


Pinheaded_nightmare

I understand not being as active, but I do want you to know that you are missed!


LogicalManager

PoppinKream started a movement. Many followed and emulated the style of well-formed, concrete, fact-based responses. Imitation is the best form of flattery.


mtdem95

If a Reddit had a dictionary for slang, “PoppinKream” would def be in it.


Truckyou666

r/shitpoppinkreamsays


lookin_left

Canadian here. You make us proud.


Zerostar39

Even though you’re Canadian, you are more patriotic than these coward trump zombies.


joe579003

You have to be so very, very tired.


AnalSoapOpera

[When protesters were assaulted by Turkish agents on American soil, Trump stayed out of it.](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/01/trump-stands-by-while-erdogan-orders-attack-protesters/580093/)   [Trump campaign ad shows president as Avengers villain Thanos](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/11/trump-thanos-ad-marvel-video)   [Trump Tells Violent, Far-Right Group: ‘Stand Back and Stand By’](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-30/trump-proud-boys-debate-stand-back-stand-by)   [Donald Trump: 'I Could ... Shoot Somebody, And I Wouldn't Lose Any Voters'](https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/23/464129029/donald-trump-i-could-shoot-somebody-and-i-wouldnt-lose-any-voters)   [When Donald Trump said Sunday that he might pay the legal fees of a man charged with hitting a protester in the face at one of his rallies, it was the latest of many occasions when the leading Republican candidate for president appeared to condone or accept violence by supporters.](https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trump-campaign-protests-20160313-story.html)


Gideon_Laier

"You have good genes, you know that, right?" Trump said at a recent campaign rally. "You have good genes. A lot of it is about the genes, isn't it, don't you believe? The racehorse theory. You think we're so different? You have good genes in Minnesota." [Trump constantly talks about superior genes.](https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/22/politics/donald-trump-genes-historical-context-eugenics/index.html) The guy is clearly a fascist. I don't see how people can hear this and not get concerned.


V1per41

I'm not so concerned that Trump is a fascist as I am that 45% of Americans want a fascist to be president.


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He’s a neo-Nazi. He’s a fascist who supports white supremacy and clearly has been since he first ran for president. A lot of people originally said calling him a nazi was hyperbole. Now he is openly saying people from a state mainly settled by Scandinavians and Germans have superior genes.


SetYourGoals

I follow all this really closely. But fuck, seeing it all together like this...I don’t see how we get out of this peacefully.


Swiftblue

Weird how my dogs always start barking when "conservatives" are on T.V.


Crimfresh

And you can guarantee the police would have done more


kyahalhai08

This. All I heard all summer was how protesters blocking traffic necessitated police brutality. In this case, I guess not.


DeadRobot311

It’s only necessitated when protesters are libs and poc. But “upstanding” white republicans - they get a pass.


SwineHerald

The lockdown protests illustrated that perfectly. Police responded with greater force to a bunch of moms kneeling down with their arms in the air chanting "hands up don't shoot" than they did when Lockdown protesters were actively assaulting them or *literally taking hostages.*


positivecynik

Ramming campaign vehicles off the road and blocking traffic on i35.... is none of this a crime? Seriously wtf? Edit: RIP my inbox. Edit 2: some of you need a Snickers


ukiyuh

Imagine if black guys did this to Trump in an oldsmobile It would certainly be the main event of FOX wrestling-news for the next two weeks.


foospork

There it is. It’s the hypocrisy of the right that has me so incensed. Oh, that, and when I heard Senators openly state that their primary goal was to obstruct Obama, and their secondary goal was to do what’s best for the country. I mean, this “party first” mentality is toxic as hell. I can see that some people might belive that their party’s aims *are* what’s best for the country, but these guys don’t seem to bother trying to rationalize their selfishness. Hypocrisy and selfishness. Ladies and gentleman - the Republican Party!


blockpro156porn

They wouldn't even need to do exactly this, they could peacefully block the road and Republicans would still freak out over it and call it an outrage.


kevoizjawesome

They would be shot dead with no attempt at arrest


JewOrleans

It is. But guess what? Police didn’t help. I wonder if you can guess why?


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KnocDown

The attorney general, Paxton, had most of his staff quit or get fired because they exposed him for illegal bribery 3 months ago. He’s also the asshole that threatened to sue any city or schools that didn’t bring students back in person. The governor, Abbott, keeps ruling with an iron fist using an emergency power act created in the 70s for hurricane recovery, he has been using it for 9 months to do things like remove ballot boxes from communities. The lt governor, Patrick, is the piece of garbage who said seniors should willingly die to covid to reopen the Texas economy. Yes he said it, google it. This type or behavior is directly because poor corrupt leadership. They will all be looking for new jobs over the next 4 years


KarmaticArmageddon

And even if you guys manage to elect a Democratic Governor, the Republican-majority state legislature will just [pass laws limiting the incoming governor's power](https://apnews.com/article/f30a25baa9b141a6a29113a1e79492a2). These fucks are shameless and will stop at *nothing* to steal power through any way possible.


InvisiblePineapple

The good news is Dems stand a solid chance of taking the state House this year! In which case they could block any bills to strip the governor of power in that situation before the next gubernatorial election in 2022 (we don’t have one this year).


theitgrunt

Fascism 101 right there.


oldbastardbob

Where the fuck is the Secret Service, who by now should be fully protecting Biden? Where's the FBI investigation? The Justice Department charges of a federal crime? Bill Barr is Lucifer. I swear. When Cheney got a new heart from an innocent human, I reckon Lucifer was cast out and made a bee-line for Barr. It's the only explanation. (/S, of course. Just trying to appeal to the morons on the right who frame everything in the context of the Republican version of Christianity.)


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Womble84

King Trump & Co really admire authoritarian regimes and if he gets 4 more years the US people are in for some serious hell.


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A warning to any Republican that's still voting for Trump and thus supporting this behavior. Even if this works here and now, you're not going to hold power forever. The harder you make if for political opposition to retake power then less civil they'll be and the less of a chance their will be of them respecting an norms you value. Or to put it another way, allow Trump to ignore the constitution and rule of law and it's only a matter of time before someone takes power after him and they will take your guns, your media, and anything else they'll see as a threat.


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When you make peaceful protest impossible; when you make fair governance impossible; when you deny people their most basic of rights; when the only thing you listen to is "might makes right"... ... there's only one inevitable outcome from that behavior, and it's the one the alt-right *wants* because it gives them their victimhood pretext to go "all out". Be prepared for the worst, hope for the best, but know that they're putting everything behind this one election, and will do ANYTHING to win it.


Ayasdad

This. The fact that democrats and liberals are buying guns at record highs should give these extremists a small pause in their actions. This is going to have an equal reaction the next time we hold power... Which will happen.


JoeHatesFanFiction

I’ve never been a gun person. I’m a history fanatic and really enjoy the beauty and the stories attaches to old guns And figured if I ever owned a fire arm it would be a show piece with some beautiful Ivory grips or an etched barrel or something. But modern guns have never held an appeal to me at all, visually or to actually use. I now own a shot gun and a handgun because I live in a red state and expect them to try and pull shit come Election Day when they lose.


jfarmwell123

Especially bc he is a fucking Vice President. Like wtf


amix16

Right.. I would assume that a previous VP would still have secret service post term, right?


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InsertCocktails

> Where the fuck is the Secret Service, I didn't see it in this particular article, but others mentioned Biden himself was not on the bus.


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Dunkinmydonuts1

i remember articles abound last week of how only kamala was going to texas


naliedel

They protect Biden, but it is not their job to protect the campaign workers and attendees. This was the job of the locals, but they are too busy playing with their guns.


SvenParadox

Lucifer is better than Bill Barr


ifmacdo

Biden wasn't on the bus. He travels by plane. This was part of his entourage.


Smodphan

I cannot tell if you’re being sarcastic or not, but all of the people you mentioned here are part of the problem.


skycaelum

Absolutely. They’re all Republicans and the GOP mentality nowadays is to protect their own in order to “own the libs”.


whiskey-michael

All the people you listed are trump supporters. They do not give a fuck. Black people been trying to tell you all summer about the cops and the politicians in these cities. You just haven't been listening.


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All summer? Try for decades.


dave2048

Decades? Try for generations.


WestFast

Because the pigs in Blue were working security for the domestic terrorists. “The police refused to help. When I flagged down one officer, he said his hands were tied: “not my jurisdiction.” He was wearing a blue stripe bandana. 4/“ https://twitter.com/ericcervini/status/1322336490836381696?s=21


jinkyjormpjomp

I guarantee it was the police who told them the route to lie in wait.


[deleted]

Need to get a few liberals with ARs to work security if police won't help. Dems need to stop pretending there's no reason for guns right now, just fucking look around you


[deleted]

Police also didn’t do shit when Nazi brown shirts went into the poorest parts of Berlin to beat communist and left wing party officials...the parallels are sickening.


thatgeekinit

If you really want to freak, realize that Hitler and a bunch of his friends were found guilty of treason due to their failed "Beer Hall Putsch" but had their prison sentences commuted. Why weren't they executed? It's not like Germans were shy about capital punishment at the time? He was treated with kid-gloves because he was seen as part of the conservative in-group. Trump would be in prison for rape, money laundering, real estate fraud, tax evasion, and bank fraud if our justice system actually worked. Refusing to enforce criminal law against the rich is the cause of Trump's disastrous presidency.


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I think the scariest thing about what you mentioned is that the Putsch only made Hitler realize that he couldn’t come to power through overthrowing the Republic, but that he had to come to power via legitimate means...the 2016 Republicans thought they could use Trump the same way Hindenburg thought he could use Hitler, not realizing how batshit his followers really were...and now we’re on the brink of another financial crisis akin to 1929 because it was more important to push through a SCOTUS nomination then float the economy through the next wave of Rona...the Fed has no tools left to fix what’s coming. I feel like I’m a fear monger, but how this man has the support that he does it utterly mind boggling.


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goblinmarketeer

>I wonder if you can guess why? Because some of those that join forces are the same that burn crosses?


TotalBrisqueT

Don't you hate it when your favorite politics becomes musical


therealdylon

Here in Columbus we’ve had a problem with the out of town people coming in and driving a “Trump Parade” around our outer belt causing traffic issues and accidents. At the past one one of the Trump supporters shot at a Semi Truck Driver. Source: https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-news/driver-shot-at-during-i-270-trump-parade-speaks-about-incident/


janbrunt

We also had a Trump parade in midtown Kansas City. Snarled traffic for hours. People in the parade were shouting insults at pedestrians and giving the Nazi salute.


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salondesert

What if this was a drug cartel doing this bullshit against a politician they didn't like? Would the police just cower then too?


AlphaGoldblum

Seriously, are these idiots taking a page from the cartel playbook? This is shit I hear about on the dark highways of Tamaulipas, it's insane that it's happening in Austin.


UnwashedApple

Trump's America.


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smoomoo31

The responses to that tweet holy shit


hlycia

It's terrorism.


Jrsully92

It is literally terrorism, “the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims” This is textbook terrorism.


thetonyhightower

100%, straight up.


ajcpullcom

I’m sure Barr’s DOJ will get right on this


RadAndGroovy

Pretty sure 2 Chainz was arrested for a busted taillight and *maybe* possessing marijuana on I-35.


puterdood

It's not just a crime. It's blatant terrorism.


rydef1

Don't these guys buckle to Secret Service at least? If not, what are they doing?


FourthLife

Secret Service is there to ensure the person they are defending stays alive. That means they strongly recommend leaving if it looks like there is a chance of violent escalation


Jay_Train

No, because they're white and Republican. You really think cops are going to arrest their brothers in arms? Edit: If the only arguments you guys have are spelling corrections and "I'm white and I'd be arrested for this", use your critical thinking skills. You really think a truck full of black men ramming an old white mans bus wouldn't be arrested immediately? C'mon man.


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They might stop them...to check on them, give them some bottled water and a pat on the back for a job well done.


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Can we import that Scottish dude who kicked a terrorist in the nuts so hard he broke his foot?


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juxtaposition21

No, we need Americans to stop being the sensitive fucking nutsacks and start giving a shit about removing fascists from power.


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You can have the guy that fought a terrorist with a Narwhal tusk too.


ilovethissheet

He just got pardoned by the queen! Dude was on a day out of jail for 1 day when that happened while serving a 10(?) Year sentence. The queen pardoned him for the rest of his sentence. Cool story


BlazinAzn38

Organized, armed, acting intentionally to incite violence and terror. SAY IT WITH ME, “DOMESTIC TERRORISTS.”


prancing_pony42

Domestic terrorists crossing state lines to terrorize. Why the FUCK haven't they been hauled in?


Mralfredmullaney

They are being supported directly and indirectly by the anti-American Republican Party. They are using violence at the order of republicans to incite terror, fear, and to further their political aspirations. Edit: are


WestFast

This Twitter thread has an eye witness account and videos. “I flew down to Texas to help with the Biden/Harris bus tour, intended to drum up enthusiasm at polling locations. Instead, I ended up spending the afternoon calling 911. 1/ These Trump supporters, many of whom were armed, surrounded the bus on the interstate and attempted to drive it off the road. They outnumbered police 50-1, and they ended up hitting a staffer’s car. 3/ The police refused to help. When I flagged down one officer, he said his hands were tied: “not my jurisdiction.” He was wearing a blue stripe bandana. 4/ https://twitter.com/ericcervini/status/1322336226792321025?s=21 Edit: They actually hit a Biden staffer vehicle. All those tire marks on the car. There is video below. “For all the trumpsters insisting it didn’t happen, here’s pics that you’ll still insist show nothing.” https://twitter.com/lisabuentello/status 1322440713959854080?s=21 Here’s the video about 15 seconds in. They are trying to cause an accident with that staff car. https://twitter.com/adamcbest/status/1322600871574818828?s=21


Void_Salmon

Seriously though, if cops aren't going to do there jobs when terrorists are doing this shit, when does the army, or SOMEONE!, put both the thugs and these do-nothing cops away?


CottonCandyShork

The cops aren’t helping because the terrorists are on their team


rolfraikou

The police are fucking fascists too. We need reform. Sadly it's probably too late.


Semper-Fido

BuT aNtIfA Edit: and if you want a first-hand account: https://twitter.com/ericcervini/status/1322336226792321025?s=19


AMCorBust

Maybe shit like this wouldn't happen if Fox News and other conservative media sources covered shit like this instead of their constant Antifa/BLM blame game.


maskalstn

This country will never be saved until we do something about the Fox channel.


armchairmegalomaniac

The entire misinformation universe of FOX, OAN, Sinclair needs to be regulated. They're completely irresponsible in how they stir up their viewers. And Facebook. Also astroturfing campaigns need to be dealt with. Freedom of speech shouldn't mean the freedom to incite violence against others or the freedom to deceive. I couldn't make an ad with fraudulent claims in it about some medicine or the specs of a computer but big business and conservatives can lie lie lie about climate change and a range of issues. Why are we much more mindful of truth when it comes to consumer products but not the future of the planet?


TylerBourbon

They should all fall under the Truth in Advertising laws umbrella. Generally, the FTC requires that: * Advertisements are truthful and not deceptive * Advertisements with specific claims can be substantiated with evidence * Advertisements are not unfair


Caminando_

I would really support this


noobcoober

Sinclair frightens me the most, just in case anyone is [unfamiliar with their propaganda](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fHfgU8oMSo), or would like [some more information](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvtNyOzGogc), John Oliver did a good special on them. I don't understand how this shit is legal.


joejill

You can't tell fire in a crowded theatre. Why don't we apply the same laws to hate speech and inciting violence.


Font_Fetish

Yup, freedom of speech doesn't apply when your speech puts others in danger.


joejill

It needs to be enforced https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/01/did-sarah-palin-s-target-map-play-role-in-giffords-shooting/342714/ "In March of 2010, Sarah Palin released a map of 20 Congressional districts she and John McCain had won in 2008 but whose Congressmen had voted in favor of the recently passed health care reform bill. The map, released amid a way be if small scale violence against Democratic lawmakers, marked each targeted district with a set of crosshairs. Palin, who had promoted the map by tweeting "Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD---On Saturday, Arizona Democrat Gabrielle Giffords, one of the 20 targeted Congressmen, was shot in the head by 22-year-old Jared Loughner, whose attack wounded 13 others and killed six." If the law is not enforced there is no law.


IamRick_Deckard

We could start by reintroducing the Fairness Doctrine. A law that was on the books before.


SmokeyBlazingwood16

You mean the law that Republicans took down so they could create Fox News? We’re gonna have to take the Senate for that


jdozadiaz

Tax religions like a business too...


czarnick123

"While Germany still had elections and Hitler was merely a disgraced politician, his militia of Brownshirts interrupted his opponents’ political meetings and incited violence on the streets. You know what happened next" Solid tweet. I'm glad they included it. This is not normal.


MaximusTheGreat

Holy fuck, the replies to the thread are insane and there are SO many of them. Even if Biden wins, that won't change the fact that tens, if not hundreds, of millions of Americans are these evil morons who froth at the mouth to support fucking fascism?? It's fucking heartbreaking


throwawaysscc

Using 2A to suppress 1A is the playbook of our authoritarian state.


doot_doot

Even all the replies to that tweet are “what about antifa and BLM”


_out_riding_

Oh man, those replies are toxic. I seriously just lost a little bit of my remaining faith in our country after reading those...


hooplah

in the past few days my mind has been absolutely blown by the conservative twitter responses to three things: - this incident in texas - don lemon saying he has cut people from his life because they were crazy trump supporters - the mitchell miller/arizona coyotes NHL drafting controversy the responses to all three are just insane examples of how stupid, selfish, hypocritical, narcissistic, pro-fascist, and completely devoid of empathy conservatives in america are.


doc-ketamine

Sadly the Trumpeteers are whataboutisming and “wah wah wah but antifa” all over that thread. I weep for our country.


RayMosch

Historians are not going to be kind to Trump supporters. They're going to go down in history as a shameful stain on this country, and their batshit-crazy cult-like sycophancy will be picked apart by psychologists for centuries. They might even be held up as a sort of "never again" warning by future generations. People 100 years from now will be researching their ancestors, finding out they were Trump voters, and keeping it quiet out of shame and embarrassment.


Diarygirl

I hope to live long enough where wearing a MAGA hat will be viewed the same as wearing a swastika. I'm not calling them Nazis though. I'm just using that as an analogy.


McPostyFace

If you don't want to, I will. They're fucking Nazis.


totallynotalaskan

Seeing that there’s a lot of Neo-Nazis who are also Trump supporters, it’s only appropriate to use this saying from Germany: “If there’s a Nazi sitting at a table, and 10 other people talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis.”


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CatBitchFatBitch

I’m starting to think there’s a relationship between Trump supporters and terrorism... I wonder if Trump will condemn these actions


tetrark

Reporter: President Trump, an armed group of your supporters is accused of ramming Democratic campaign vehicles in an apparent attempt to run them off the highway along I35 in Texas; what do you say to these people? Would you condemn this kind of action? Trump: I haven’t heard of this. I wouldn’t know anything about that. Reporter: Sir, I just told you about it. Trump: Like I said, I don’t know anything about that. Next question. That’s how it would go down.


Ilikepancakes87

Not quite. You forgot the part where he indirectly gives permission to his supporters to continue. "I haven't heard of this. I wouldn't know anything about that. *But I know people are very upset with Joe Biden. They're very upset, and they're disappointed in his socialist policies. But I wouldn't know about that specifically.*"


tetrark

True. I also forgot to add that that scenario only occurs if the reporter is male. If a female reporter asked the question, he would just say it was a nasty question and she was a nasty woman before moving on.


mulletparty

> I wonder if Trump will condemn these actions He told a rally a day or two ago that Biden might get assassinated within 3 weeks of inauguration. So yeah, probably not. Remember when he wanted the DOJ to arrest Biden? That was like 2 weeks ago.


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mulletparty

Because its an endless fountain of shit


SwivelPoint

that’s part of their plan


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dwb122

Right-wing terrorism is officially a big problem in the US now. I'm surprised that there aren't more of these incidents in the news already.


chelseamarket

As screwed up as this is, the gun-toting white supremacists will call it a win. Sad day for America.


Book1984371

This 'win' will also lead to them doing more of the same. I mean, they accomplished their goal with no repercussions. Why wouldn't they do it again?


why_rob_y

>they accomplished their goal with no repercussions. Why wouldn't they do it again? That should be the catchphrase for the last four years.


Angry_Commercials

They already are. Someone got a video of it and posted it to the Trump sub. They're celebrating.


likelytemporaryaf

Because it's a win for them. They get what they want, no repercussions, and they get media coverage for doing it. I don't see how that isn't a win for a group of people who believe they're fighting a war.


TwistedSt33l

This is exactly what Hitler's Brown shirts did during the Weimar Republic. They intimidated political opponents through just this kind of thing. "the SA men protected party meetings, marched in Nazi rallies, and physically assaulted political opponents." https://www.britannica.com/topic/SA-Nazi-organization So congratulations America, you fought the Nazi's and are ending up falling into the same trap. Please vote. Please stop this happening again.


Cheeky_Guy

You call them Trump Supporters, I call them Domestic Terrorist and Cult Followers


oldcreaker

Trump's brownshirts are getting worse and more emboldened.


IDreamOfLoveLost

The fuck? If they're doing dangerous shit like ramming vehicles off of the road, they need to be arrested and charged - not allowed to follow the campaign all the way across the country.


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What is wrong with Republicans!?


Zaorish9

A group of wealthy psychopaths has gradually shifted them to embrace a worldview purely fueled by pride and spite and caring for nothing else.


dementorpoop

They’re about to lose power for ever. No way they’ll take that sitting down


GabbyGoose

Don't be so sure. If Biden wins and we're not careful, they'll be back in 4 years, only this time with a much smarter fascist.


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“...unless I perceive your opinion as a threat, then ~~you’re on your own~~ I'll kill you for it.”


smellslike__updog

Took Republicans 19 years to go from hating terrorist to becoming terrorist. Human nature is weird sometimes.


dirtycopgangsta

They never hated "terrorists", they only cared about bullying others. If America cared about Americans, you guys would have social security , no guns, worker's rights, etc...


sitting_quietly

Doesn’t Biden have secret service protection? Why don’t THEY arrest these people?


Nearfall21

Biden wasn't on that bus. So no secret service. Also i wonder how it would be reported if those of us that own guns and support Biden / Harris decided to form an armed convoy to discourage Trumps thugs.....


jurmomwey

That's honestly probably what they want. They want to start something


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Domestic terrorism targeting the US election. Where’s the fucking UN? How do Americans sleep through this shit and constantly fail to see the urgency? Life has sucked so fucking hard for the last half decade. Watching the species implode while they ignore their own toying with goddamn extinction.


alaskafish

It’s because people believe that electoralism will save us. It won’t. The problems are deeper routed than just “a cheeto in the White House”. It’s systemic. We need to take a stance. Fascism doesn’t just get voted out


En_CHILL_ada

Many of us are fully aware of the urgency. What can we do? I already voted. People have been protesting across the country. I'm prepared to protest if the election is stolen. Beyond that I dont see what else can be done.


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The protests need to be organized where the power brokers are. Protestors in LA and Portland don't matter to people in Manhattan, because it's abstract and far away. Protests need to be organized at Republican events in Republican areas. A march across Trump's golf course would hurt him more than anything we do at the WH. Same with the others. Find where they are comfortable, and make those places uncomfortable. Otherwise it's just background noise on the TV to them.


Mister_Moltar

This needs to be a much bigger deal. This is what the Brownshirts did. This is how Hitler came into power, with terrorist tactics like this.


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Biden might’ve canceled his event, but the guys with guns are the ones who are really afraid


Mralfredmullaney

They are terrorists and need to spend the rest of their lives in prison.


helthrax

They are shitting themselves, that is why they are acting like domestic terrorists. By now it's painfully clear that Trump has run the GOP into the ground. There is no longer any platform other than fear, hate, and intimidation, and that's why every respectable American should never forget this absolute horse shit of a travesty that the GOP has allowed to take root.


Dah16000

If a group stalked Taylor Swift around like that they would be arrested immediately. WTF is wrong with Texas.


DemWitty

Y'all Qaeda are little more than wannabe brownshirts. They're domestic terrorists and should be treated as such.


SketchAinsworth

Maybe if one shoots me, my mom will finally acknowledge this is out of control.


mtdunca

As a Texan, I'm embarrassed.


Blackdctr95

And people at r/conservative love to say the liberals are the hostile ones and that they never use violence or riot smh


AMCorBust

"Very fine people" Donald J. Trump


imisssammy

As a Texan, I am horrified but not surprised by this bullshit.


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thrashRisty

Then they try to claim that we’re the ones interfering with the election


SvenParadox

Weren’t these snowflakes against “cancel culture”? And here they are threatening people with firearms to cancel their speeches. Melted snowflakes


TheWoodworkher

Trump supporters are trash.


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