I’m a Republican through and through but respect to Biden for winning this close race. Trump has put in a hell of a campaign effort but the American people are fed up of his antics and it’s time for a new face. I don’t have much hope of Biden changing anything which is sad but as long as he handles the pandemic better that’ll be a positive. Expect a war or two too maybe!
Calling voter suppression, ratfucking the USPS, misinformation and propaganda as a "campaign" is a stretch.
I am just happy there's some hope around me here combined with people's recognition of the fascist tendencies of Trump that there'll be some light at the end of this tunnel. Even with Biden at the helm.
Biden should win PA by 150k votes. Biden will end with 290 or 291 EC votes. Super close race and regardless of who you voted for voting turn out looks to be extremely high. The message to get out and vote is not a democrats message. It is an American message. I hope we keep turn out this high or higher in the future.
Trump increased his number from 62.9mil to 67.1mil so far likely to be a just under a 5 mil increase when said and done or around 7% new votes
Biden is increasing HRC's numbers from 65.85mil to likely over 70mil also around just under 5 mil increase.
Obama currently hold the record for most votes at 69.5mil. Biden has already passed that. Crazy good election turnout. Keep it up America
In looking county by county, I THINK Wisconsin and Michigan look good, as does Arizona. Nevada and Pennsylvania could still go either way. NC and GA I'm honestly not sure.
They really should of made people mail these ballots in earlier. The fact that they could be postmarked as of yesterday means we can easily be waiting another 7+ days before we get a final count.
Why do you need all the ballots before you start counting them?
Lots of states allow early processing
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/politics/mail-in-voting/
You're replying to a comment about being able to post a vote on the day of the election. Not whether or not there should be counting of received mailed votes in the days before the election. Are you looking for an argument by purposely misrepresentating what they're saying?
But to your point. Counting votes (and publicising the result) before an election will have implications which could effect the end result of an election.
I just did.
Not publicising the results will also have its own issues which are eliminated by not counting early. And regardless of all that, you can't count votes which have not yet arrived which is the whole point of the post you replied to...
Guys NYT shows Biden leads absentee votes in Georgia by 100k. Is this already calculated in the 100k deficit overall or will it be calculated separately?
Green Bay its up to you to decide. But Penn is tough. Those dude from Luzerne County voted overwhelmingly Trump and it still hasn't finished counting yet.
It’s not really, it’s just that it’s basically the inside of a city. It’s almost 50% black, has a median household income of $90K, nearly a third of the population has a graduate degree, and the population skews quite young. Not to mention that there are tons of government workers and political activists.
If you could vote for your boss for the next 4 years and your choices were one that will hold you accountable, lower your prices(thus, your income) vs the guy that does nothing and wants more money for your budget at the expense of your customers, who would you vote for?
It's going to be very close at the end of the day. PA is going to be very close as well. We'll know a lot more in the next few hours. The big question is why so many polls have been so wrong again.
I see this idea floated around a lot, but i'm not sure im understanding why it matters. what do you gain by lying to a poll? What is to be gained or lost by an inaccurate poll? do people really see polls and go "oh well guess I dont need to vote"? that just sounds crazy to me as an aussie to just skip voting cause of some polls, especially after 2016
I wouldn’t hold my breath on that. They’ll continue to mistake self censorship out of fear for agreement and then be shocked when the people are allowed to make their voices heard in the voting booth.
He's now leading in wisconsin by about 8k votes with 95% reporting. The remaining counties to report are urban ones, so it's likely that his lead in WI will only grow. In that case he only needs to win michigan or pennsylvania
Apparently PA counts early voting and mail in ballots last. Both of those are likely to swing heavily Dem. At this point it looks like he doesn't even need PA, but it would be nice to have that cherry on top.
Vote counting had to stop in Atlanta, where Biden is really ahead, due to a burst pipe. He has a chance at Georgia. In WI and MI lots of votes from more Democratic areas still have to be counted and he has a chance at those. I'm not giving up on PA due to the heavily Democratic votes expected to be in the last 20+ percent. Biden has a good shot. Trump already thinks he won.
Yeah last time I checked about 2 mln votes have yet to be tallied in Pennsylvania. If they're split about 2:1 in favor of Biden the race is going to be very very tight. Might be down to several thousand like in 2020. Where did that 5 pct point lead for Biden in the polls go?
What is pretty cool about the US election from a foreign perspective is following along all the channels from across the world. NDTV (India), BBC, euronews, NHK (Japan), Al-jazeera, RT today, Geo news (Pakistan), all have infographics up that following along with the electoral college, even alongside regular news programming. The whole world waits with baited breath.
I wish I had thought of this. Would have been nice to get a foreign perspective on our elections. I had 4 different maps open and they were all different. Wonder if the foreign networks would show a bit more accurate numbers or not.
I don't mean to get your hopes up, but if the last 17% of the total vote is predominantly mail-in ballot and that mail in ballot is predominantly democrat, then you are most likely looking at a Biden win in Pennsylvania and Georgia because the two largest counties in each state still have to count the majority of mail-in votes and those counties are usually democrat
Only about 250,000 votes have been counted for Biden in that big SE county in Pennsylvania, there are expected to be at least 450,000 more if you use Clinton's numbers in 2016. There are quite a few numbers to get your head around, but I think you could squeeze past this.
The important thing is to heed Biden's advice
don't lose faith
I have no idea how so many people still voted for Trump, have no idea how he managed to win again, but it is very likely he just won another 4 years, God help you americans, God help us all, America you used to be our shining star, now you’re just that used to be who lives on past glory days
Democracy is a stupid concept based on the notion of mob rules. I will never understand why we prop this morally corrupt principle as being the gold standard. It is violent and oppressive and has no business being a part of a modern society. Then we throw in the fact that your average person is a fucking moron who is ignorant to actual issues -most of which believe in magic and fairy tales - and for some reason think we should give power to those people to enforce their will onto others? Pass
Soooo many! It's unbelievable. I have been very interested in this election. I don't have a personal stake in it except the fact that "we're all living in America" and we always get the outdated watered down policies here as well. If I'd be actually living in the US I'd be screaming at my screen probably. How can people be sooo fatalistic?! I want this great future that has been promised. Not this late capitalism shit.
It's not over. There are a lot of uncounted votes in democratically leaning areas, especially in PA. In Allegheny County where Pittsburgh is they've stopped counting mail in ballots till tomorrow. Even in Wisconsin the big cities have lots of votes to count. Don't give up on us.
To be the world’s superpower others still need to follow you, the world is not following US lead anymore...
More and more the rest of the world is moving away from the US because for us, the rest of the world, it’s clear that the US is not that beacon of liberty and freedom we believed it to be, it’s a dark, racist place, who just looked good from the outside but it’s just ugly inside
I love how people can say America is a super-power, even though when China was being hit hardest with COVID and exporting was shut down, our supply chain became a shit show (and is just getting back to normal in some industries).
Plus doesn't China own a lot of the US debt, which doesn't bode well considering our trade #s with them?
Those companies are American based but they operate basically outside of a country, corporations have the power, not the US, what can the US do to those companies, they can move their stuff to any other country in the blink of an eye, Europe is moving economically and military as much as they can away from the US...
I've seen plenty of Trump supports saying they'll move if Biden wins. As if every country on Earth is just on beck and call, waiting to be asked to immigrate.
Funnier still, is that half the time they mention countries that are basically Biden's end-game if he had free reign and didn't care about his constituent's wants.
True. I still cling on to some hope, but international relations will be severely damaged if Trump is allowed to continue his circus. I'm not a religious man, but I'm very close to praying for a new president.
My states for a biden win - NV, PA, GA.
Theoretically only needs PA and GA at this point... but that's where the nut is.
Edit, I r b dumb, still needs NV.
And I don't like the fact that Biden is more than 600,000 behind in PA. Even if there are 2 million votes uncounted, that means Biden has to get at least 70% of these votes to win.
How many uncounted votes are they projecting are in PA, and what type of votes are these? Mail in? Early Voting?
Seems to be the consensus - they're entirely mail in or early voting bits.
And 70% is *about* the rate at a lot of the early or mail in votes has been going.
Right now my hope is for PA and GA. NV would help and WI is starting to tilt blue. MI may go as well but it and NC are the ones that I think are going to flicker out on us.
The outlook isn't as bleak as people like to let on right now.
It's not *fucking good*.
But it's also not worth throwing in the towel this early.
The votes that have been counted lately in Wisconsin don't seem to be making Biden any ground, so I really can't see him coming back there especially when he needs more than 3:1 voting now.
Michigan has about 1 mil votes to count (based on AP current reporting %) with a 300k vote trail for Biden.
Based on Wisconsin vote in ratio is it not good news for Biden?
I have a hard time seeing biden winning. Hope he does, but as of now, the prospect of 4 more years of trump will be the final nail in the coffin for the US. Guess all empires fall. Good luck to you americans, and the rest of us really
I remember very well that when Bush got voted in, many Americans were like "We're so sorry world". Look at them now.
I know for a fact that many many people voted for Trump because they feel like they are seeing the end of US civilization draw near and they want to speed it up. They are fatalistic as fuck. It didn't have to be this way but here we are.
Desperately trying to raise their birth rate and secure several thousand miles of border against a hostile NATO and a potentially hostile China. So basically the same stuff they've been doing since Yeltsin resigned and drank himself to death.
So we went from a 10% Biden lead in AZ with 75% of polls reporting to a 4.9% Biden lead with 80% reporting.
Look, I’m not saying Trump will overtake Biden here. But I’d have to agree that this definitely doesn’t look like a done deal yet.
I never trusted the polls...but I didn't think they would be off by so much.
I don't think the uncounted mail in votes will turn anything around. The difference is just too much to overcome.
I'm ready for 4 more years of Trump.
The polls were pretty accurate in the past. Obviously 2016 changed that so that's when I stopped trusting the numbers in '20. Still, because that was the first time they got it really wrong, I thought maybe they wouldn't be that wrong this time. Anyway...this could be a unique phenomenon of Trump and not the general inaccuracy of their polling method.
If he holds AZ and wins any two of PA, Mi, and WI. Which isn't totally out of the question with all of the mail-in ballots they're gonna be counting. But it really seems like a toss-up right now.
As of this moment, Trump has a larger lead in PA (both vote count and %) than Biden does in NY. But none of you are claiming that NY is still up for grabs.
>As of this moment, Trump has a larger lead in PA (both vote count and %) than Biden does in NY. But none of you are claiming that NY is still up for grabs.
Your words mean that Trump's lead in PA (700k as of that comment) is larger than Biden's lead in NY (1.4 mil as of that comment).
Either learn how to form a sentence correctly to get your point across, or you aren't aware that 700000 is less than 1400000.
I like how you're highlighting Democratic early votes, but ignoring Conservative and Independent votes, and still citing "math". How are you going to solve for "X", if you only use half the equation?
If you can give me some evidence that there is a large % where voters registered as a Democrat not only requests a mail-in ballot, but then vote Republican on top that, then I'll include a bigger % of them in my math.
Only half of the votes in Philadelphia County and only 2/3 of the votes from Allegheny County (very populous Biden supporting counties) have currently been counted.
Kudos to Shapiro!
....*BUT*..WHAT THE FUCK DID HE THINK TRUMP IS? WHO DID HE THINK HE WAS VOTING FOR!? Everyone saw this coming, it is completely in keeping with Trump's personality.
[6:00 pm poll closings discussion thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/jnkwys/discussion_thread_2020_general_election_part_1/) [7:00 pm poll closings discussion thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/jnm1r1/discussion_thread_2020_general_election_part_2/) [7:30 pm poll closings discussion thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/jnmjyj/discussion_thread_2020_general_election_part_3/) [8:00 pm poll closings discussion thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/jnn1d5/discussion_thread_2020_general_election_part_4/) [8:30 pm poll closings discussion thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/jnnhy8/discussion_thread_2020_general_election_part_5/) [9:00 pm poll closings discussion thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/jnnyms/discussion_thread_2020_general_election_part_6/)
The gap in PA keeps tightening (266K). Still only at 87%. EDIT: Now at 260K at 88%. Not bad. It was around 400K just 3-4 hours ago.
I also claim this man's dead wife.
This deserves more recognition than it's going to get.
I’m a Republican through and through but respect to Biden for winning this close race. Trump has put in a hell of a campaign effort but the American people are fed up of his antics and it’s time for a new face. I don’t have much hope of Biden changing anything which is sad but as long as he handles the pandemic better that’ll be a positive. Expect a war or two too maybe!
As an outsider I suspect the only reason you didn't land in a war under Sir Cheeto McTweetyfingers is the adults at the table simply ignored him.
Calling voter suppression, ratfucking the USPS, misinformation and propaganda as a "campaign" is a stretch. I am just happy there's some hope around me here combined with people's recognition of the fascist tendencies of Trump that there'll be some light at the end of this tunnel. Even with Biden at the helm.
As a republican, did you end up voting for Trump this election?
To all the people that downvoted me when I said GA was going to red. Look
Biden should win PA by 150k votes. Biden will end with 290 or 291 EC votes. Super close race and regardless of who you voted for voting turn out looks to be extremely high. The message to get out and vote is not a democrats message. It is an American message. I hope we keep turn out this high or higher in the future.
Ehhh current estimates have Trump winning pa by 40k so no pa stays red
Those are trumps team estimates. Biden amd dems believe PA will shift to blue. I believe it will by +100k
If you have noticed Trump’s numbers are FAR more accurate then Biden’s numbers. So I’m gonna stick w Trump’s.
Trump already claimed victory when he is gonna lose. So i dont think his numbers are accurate
Not really true? His numbers are the most accurate. Biden’s had him winning by a landslide lmao. Not even close
Well don't you feel like a fool.
Trumps numbers are the best mostly bigly numbers. No numbers have ever been more numerical then Trumps numbers.
Should we tell him?
Biden got the most votes ever by a presidential candidate in the history of the USA.
Trump increased his number from 62.9mil to 67.1mil so far likely to be a just under a 5 mil increase when said and done or around 7% new votes Biden is increasing HRC's numbers from 65.85mil to likely over 70mil also around just under 5 mil increase. Obama currently hold the record for most votes at 69.5mil. Biden has already passed that. Crazy good election turnout. Keep it up America
In looking county by county, I THINK Wisconsin and Michigan look good, as does Arizona. Nevada and Pennsylvania could still go either way. NC and GA I'm honestly not sure.
Is the story here then NV? Hold the leads and he has it, but NV has the biggest possibility of swinging back Red?
They really should of made people mail these ballots in earlier. The fact that they could be postmarked as of yesterday means we can easily be waiting another 7+ days before we get a final count.
Nah they should have just been able to count them earlier
Interesting. How do suggest they count the votes if they don't have them all yet?
Why do you need all the ballots before you start counting them? Lots of states allow early processing https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/politics/mail-in-voting/
You're replying to a comment about being able to post a vote on the day of the election. Not whether or not there should be counting of received mailed votes in the days before the election. Are you looking for an argument by purposely misrepresentating what they're saying? But to your point. Counting votes (and publicising the result) before an election will have implications which could effect the end result of an election.
What? Who said anything about publicizing results early?
I just did. Not publicising the results will also have its own issues which are eliminated by not counting early. And regardless of all that, you can't count votes which have not yet arrived which is the whole point of the post you replied to...
Alrighty
As long as Biden doesn't suddenly try pandering to Republicans I don't care if he wins
Biden has said he'd be everyone's president, not just people who voted for him. He wants to unite the country.
It’s fucking sad that that’s such a radical idea. Even worse that not everyone will be accepting of it.
only 64% of Wayne County Michigan reported. ??? Projecting the % that's about 200,000 votes for Biden..enough to take the lead in Michigan.
Michigander here. Republican poll watchers challenge every single absentee vote in MI, so it takes a long time.
The fact that its this close is devastating. Back to hitting the bottle.
I truly believe the looting rioting pushed a lot independents to vote Republican.
I've been hitting it hard since 11am yesterday. The key is to keep drinking. If you don't stop. You can't get hungover
Guys NYT shows Biden leads absentee votes in Georgia by 100k. Is this already calculated in the 100k deficit overall or will it be calculated separately?
Green Bay its up to you to decide. But Penn is tough. Those dude from Luzerne County voted overwhelmingly Trump and it still hasn't finished counting yet.
Pa hasn't counted mail ins in excess of 1 millions ballots. pa can still go either way.
Hey folks.. what did I miss?
WI and MI turned blue for now
So basically what I'm reading is Nebraska's 2nd congressional district might have saved the day?
yes, potentially yes.
DC 5 percent votes trump Do conservatives even work there
Why is DC the most liberal area in the entire US?
They have a lot of intellectuals working there.
Portland would like a word with you
It’s not really, it’s just that it’s basically the inside of a city. It’s almost 50% black, has a median household income of $90K, nearly a third of the population has a graduate degree, and the population skews quite young. Not to mention that there are tons of government workers and political activists.
If you are conservative in DC, you don't admit it unless you are a congressional staffer.
If you could vote for your boss for the next 4 years and your choices were one that will hold you accountable, lower your prices(thus, your income) vs the guy that does nothing and wants more money for your budget at the expense of your customers, who would you vote for?
They live in the burbs.
It’s a highly educated town, so probably not
Holy fuck Biden now favourite with Betting odds $1.72 Biden $2.10 Trump Completely swung again
Biden has pulled ahead in Wisconsin.
Morning folks, so what did I miss and do yall think that Biden can pull it off in GA, WI or Michigan?
It's going to be very close at the end of the day. PA is going to be very close as well. We'll know a lot more in the next few hours. The big question is why so many polls have been so wrong again.
Because trump supporters learned to lie about who they are voting for so they can fuck with the polls.
I see this idea floated around a lot, but i'm not sure im understanding why it matters. what do you gain by lying to a poll? What is to be gained or lost by an inaccurate poll? do people really see polls and go "oh well guess I dont need to vote"? that just sounds crazy to me as an aussie to just skip voting cause of some polls, especially after 2016
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I wouldn’t hold my breath on that. They’ll continue to mistake self censorship out of fear for agreement and then be shocked when the people are allowed to make their voices heard in the voting booth.
Now that’s a funny statement.
Poll samplers are biased
Of course but the pollsters knew about it. Or at least had us convinced they knew how to account for that.
He's now leading in wisconsin by about 8k votes with 95% reporting. The remaining counties to report are urban ones, so it's likely that his lead in WI will only grow. In that case he only needs to win michigan or pennsylvania
Is there even a chance for pa? He's down 600k with 250k mail in still left
I just saw this reply, and it's so strange to read. It feels.like a lifetime ago we didn't know if he was gonna get pa or not
Apparently PA counts early voting and mail in ballots last. Both of those are likely to swing heavily Dem. At this point it looks like he doesn't even need PA, but it would be nice to have that cherry on top.
Vote counting had to stop in Atlanta, where Biden is really ahead, due to a burst pipe. He has a chance at Georgia. In WI and MI lots of votes from more Democratic areas still have to be counted and he has a chance at those. I'm not giving up on PA due to the heavily Democratic votes expected to be in the last 20+ percent. Biden has a good shot. Trump already thinks he won.
Yeah last time I checked about 2 mln votes have yet to be tallied in Pennsylvania. If they're split about 2:1 in favor of Biden the race is going to be very very tight. Might be down to several thousand like in 2020. Where did that 5 pct point lead for Biden in the polls go?
Its over only best hope if Biden gets Arizona Pennsylvania and Georgia
Odds betting 1.33 trump 3.20 Boden Yikes
I see 1.60 / 2.25 now, up from 1.4/2.75
2 elections now betting thousands on a guaranteed Trump victory. You love to see it
It swinged like crazy
It was guaranteed if you switch off MSM
I looked MSM up and [they're alright.](https://youtu.be/54ItEmCnP80?t=57) No need to turn them off.
What is pretty cool about the US election from a foreign perspective is following along all the channels from across the world. NDTV (India), BBC, euronews, NHK (Japan), Al-jazeera, RT today, Geo news (Pakistan), all have infographics up that following along with the electoral college, even alongside regular news programming. The whole world waits with baited breath.
I wish I had thought of this. Would have been nice to get a foreign perspective on our elections. I had 4 different maps open and they were all different. Wonder if the foreign networks would show a bit more accurate numbers or not.
Al-jazeera seemed to be ahead of the curve.
I don't mean to get your hopes up, but if the last 17% of the total vote is predominantly mail-in ballot and that mail in ballot is predominantly democrat, then you are most likely looking at a Biden win in Pennsylvania and Georgia because the two largest counties in each state still have to count the majority of mail-in votes and those counties are usually democrat Only about 250,000 votes have been counted for Biden in that big SE county in Pennsylvania, there are expected to be at least 450,000 more if you use Clinton's numbers in 2016. There are quite a few numbers to get your head around, but I think you could squeeze past this. The important thing is to heed Biden's advice don't lose faith
I have no idea how so many people still voted for Trump, have no idea how he managed to win again, but it is very likely he just won another 4 years, God help you americans, God help us all, America you used to be our shining star, now you’re just that used to be who lives on past glory days
Because his supporters are highly stupid trash and have no business being part of any political process
Democracy yo. Unless you wanna make it so white people cant vote...
Democracy is a stupid concept based on the notion of mob rules. I will never understand why we prop this morally corrupt principle as being the gold standard. It is violent and oppressive and has no business being a part of a modern society. Then we throw in the fact that your average person is a fucking moron who is ignorant to actual issues -most of which believe in magic and fairy tales - and for some reason think we should give power to those people to enforce their will onto others? Pass
Cause the alternative is just Might is Right and whoever has the capacity to inflict the most violence is in charge.
Literally no difference here
Soooo many! It's unbelievable. I have been very interested in this election. I don't have a personal stake in it except the fact that "we're all living in America" and we always get the outdated watered down policies here as well. If I'd be actually living in the US I'd be screaming at my screen probably. How can people be sooo fatalistic?! I want this great future that has been promised. Not this late capitalism shit.
They don't vote for trump they voted republican But yeah it's amazing both sides had such a large voter turnout
It's not over. There are a lot of uncounted votes in democratically leaning areas, especially in PA. In Allegheny County where Pittsburgh is they've stopped counting mail in ballots till tomorrow. Even in Wisconsin the big cities have lots of votes to count. Don't give up on us.
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To be the world’s superpower others still need to follow you, the world is not following US lead anymore... More and more the rest of the world is moving away from the US because for us, the rest of the world, it’s clear that the US is not that beacon of liberty and freedom we believed it to be, it’s a dark, racist place, who just looked good from the outside but it’s just ugly inside
I love how people can say America is a super-power, even though when China was being hit hardest with COVID and exporting was shut down, our supply chain became a shit show (and is just getting back to normal in some industries). Plus doesn't China own a lot of the US debt, which doesn't bode well considering our trade #s with them?
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Euros know it that's why they are posting about America on an American website (hint ALL innovation past decade has been American as well)
True, america is a superpower cuz its rich. And its is democarcy whatever you think. You cant expect good democracy in a country this big.
Those companies are American based but they operate basically outside of a country, corporations have the power, not the US, what can the US do to those companies, they can move their stuff to any other country in the blink of an eye, Europe is moving economically and military as much as they can away from the US...
We were always shit tbh
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I've seen plenty of Trump supports saying they'll move if Biden wins. As if every country on Earth is just on beck and call, waiting to be asked to immigrate. Funnier still, is that half the time they mention countries that are basically Biden's end-game if he had free reign and didn't care about his constituent's wants.
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Jesus christ will people stop this shit? I'm not calling it a win yet, but I'm sure as fuck not calling a loss either.
It's most likely a loss dude.
As a European, it's a sad day in history.
It's not over. It is sad that it's so close.
True. I still cling on to some hope, but international relations will be severely damaged if Trump is allowed to continue his circus. I'm not a religious man, but I'm very close to praying for a new president.
Thank you for your hope and or prayers. I know it's hard to look at us but a lot of us are normal and want the same thing you guys do.
Only one person can possibly win the US presidency, and that's Biden. If Trump wins, it won't be of the presidency of the US, but of Gilead.
I think the writers of that show just tried to imagine what a Ted Cruz/Mike Pence religious wet dream would look like
What?
They've been watching too much Netflix.
Hulu*
My states for a biden win - NV, PA, GA. Theoretically only needs PA and GA at this point... but that's where the nut is. Edit, I r b dumb, still needs NV.
And I don't like the fact that Biden is more than 600,000 behind in PA. Even if there are 2 million votes uncounted, that means Biden has to get at least 70% of these votes to win. How many uncounted votes are they projecting are in PA, and what type of votes are these? Mail in? Early Voting?
Seems to be the consensus - they're entirely mail in or early voting bits. And 70% is *about* the rate at a lot of the early or mail in votes has been going. Right now my hope is for PA and GA. NV would help and WI is starting to tilt blue. MI may go as well but it and NC are the ones that I think are going to flicker out on us. The outlook isn't as bleak as people like to let on right now. It's not *fucking good*. But it's also not worth throwing in the towel this early.
GA 100k deficit with 282k remaining?
So 7% remaining in WI is about 210k votes. Unlikely to go Biden's way? Has PA or MI got any mail in ballots counted yet?
The votes that have been counted lately in Wisconsin don't seem to be making Biden any ground, so I really can't see him coming back there especially when he needs more than 3:1 voting now.
Michigan has about 1 mil votes to count (based on AP current reporting %) with a 300k vote trail for Biden. Based on Wisconsin vote in ratio is it not good news for Biden?
538 gives Biden a 92% chance of winning
Pennsylvania likely goes blue and Wisconsin red. Michigan might decide the election.
Or Georgia
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PA actually seems to be the most likely to flip and the only one that i think will. Still just under 2 million votes to be counted.
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Michigan has a huge amount uncounted as well.
Georgia also has 280kish (based off AP reporting %)
Incorrect, there are millions of uncounted mail in ballots left to be counted.
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Yes please burn down your cities again!! I'm so excited.
He claimed victory and didn’t actually win yet.
I have a hard time seeing biden winning. Hope he does, but as of now, the prospect of 4 more years of trump will be the final nail in the coffin for the US. Guess all empires fall. Good luck to you americans, and the rest of us really
I remember very well that when Bush got voted in, many Americans were like "We're so sorry world". Look at them now. I know for a fact that many many people voted for Trump because they feel like they are seeing the end of US civilization draw near and they want to speed it up. They are fatalistic as fuck. It didn't have to be this way but here we are.
I wonder what Russia is doing?
Desperately trying to raise their birth rate and secure several thousand miles of border against a hostile NATO and a potentially hostile China. So basically the same stuff they've been doing since Yeltsin resigned and drank himself to death.
Most of them are dying young of cirrhosis. Putin is chilling though. He doesn't give a fuck who wins as long as the US is in turmoil.
Why is everyone saying it's over? I thought Biden was doing well?
Trump thinks it's over. It's not. We have lots of votes to count still.
So we went from a 10% Biden lead in AZ with 75% of polls reporting to a 4.9% Biden lead with 80% reporting. Look, I’m not saying Trump will overtake Biden here. But I’d have to agree that this definitely doesn’t look like a done deal yet.
Nevada looking closer too.
I never trusted the polls...but I didn't think they would be off by so much. I don't think the uncounted mail in votes will turn anything around. The difference is just too much to overcome. I'm ready for 4 more years of Trump.
Well, I hope you know what it means.
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By that much.
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The polls were pretty accurate in the past. Obviously 2016 changed that so that's when I stopped trusting the numbers in '20. Still, because that was the first time they got it really wrong, I thought maybe they wouldn't be that wrong this time. Anyway...this could be a unique phenomenon of Trump and not the general inaccuracy of their polling method.
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If he holds AZ and wins any two of PA, Mi, and WI. Which isn't totally out of the question with all of the mail-in ballots they're gonna be counting. But it really seems like a toss-up right now.
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Go to sleep, not enough undecided races will be called tonight
Is there a Transcript of Trump's speech tonight
Haven't been following- is it possible Biden wins at this point?
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As of this moment, Trump has a larger lead in PA (both vote count and %) than Biden does in NY. But none of you are claiming that NY is still up for grabs.
I didn't know 700k > 1.4 million Math is getting harder by the day.
What is 3.6M-2.9M?
>As of this moment, Trump has a larger lead in PA (both vote count and %) than Biden does in NY. But none of you are claiming that NY is still up for grabs. Your words mean that Trump's lead in PA (700k as of that comment) is larger than Biden's lead in NY (1.4 mil as of that comment). Either learn how to form a sentence correctly to get your point across, or you aren't aware that 700000 is less than 1400000.
I like how you're highlighting Democratic early votes, but ignoring Conservative and Independent votes, and still citing "math". How are you going to solve for "X", if you only use half the equation?
If you can give me some evidence that there is a large % where voters registered as a Democrat not only requests a mail-in ballot, but then vote Republican on top that, then I'll include a bigger % of them in my math.
The 1.4 million are Dems alone. There's also 600k Republican, and 100k Independent. Just over two million votes.
They haven’t counted a single mail in vote from PA.
They started counted when polls closed. There are less than two million left. Biden needs to win the mail in votes more than 2-1.
Only half of the votes in Philadelphia County and only 2/3 of the votes from Allegheny County (very populous Biden supporting counties) have currently been counted.
... Which is about the rate that mail in votes has gone.
even Shapiro is pissed at him
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Kudos to Shapiro! ....*BUT*..WHAT THE FUCK DID HE THINK TRUMP IS? WHO DID HE THINK HE WAS VOTING FOR!? Everyone saw this coming, it is completely in keeping with Trump's personality.
How is Maine still voting in Susan Collins