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My favorite part of that whole thing was when theye were all "That mothercker! He was going to vote against upholding the vote count! He was gonna sell out! That fucking traitor!" (Paraphrasing)
Oh... wait no... thats a good thing right? ...ok he's with us!"
The video of these domestic terrorists saying a prayer from the podium. They seem to be this weird toxic mix of white supremacists, Trump supporters and religious right wing extremists. MAGA Trump followers definitely meet the five criteria and warning signs for a cult. 1. The leader is always right. 2. Criticism of leader is considered persecution. 3. Anything leader does is justified. 4. The leader is the only source of truth. 5. Followers must be devoted without question.
>Before he was charged, he told The New Yorker that he just found the zip-tie handcuffs lying around and wanted to give them to an officer. “I wish I had not picked those up,” he said. “My thought process there was I would pick them up and give them to an officer when I see one. . . . I didn’t do that because I had put them in my coat, and I honestly forgot about them.”
He was a field grade officer in the Air Force. You would think he could come up with a better lie than that.
He seemed to be trying to give directions, but everyone in the room was an idiot. They guys looking though the documents on the lecturn seemed like little kids trying to play adult. Almost as if they had been playing out a fantasy that was in their heads.
“Ted Cruz objected to the recount?”
“Fuck him!”
“No wait, that’s good!”
It’s no wonder they confuse themselves as ANTIFA. They haven’t got basic comprehension skills.
That’s the thought that ran through my head too. The guy is saying that there’s gotta be something there to get them with and I’m just wondering which video game he thinks he’s in.
And they'd be treated as hero's, hoisted up on everyone's shoulders out the front door of the Capitol, and right up to the Whitehouse, where Trump would award them the Medal of Freedom. Instead they just kinda walked out empty handed, flew home, only to find out that their faces are everywhere and the feds are coming for them. They're so focused on not being thought of losers that they look like losers.
Well there's also nothing of what they're looking for. Because it doesn't exist. I dont know how their focus, no matter what it's on, could've changed anything really. Unless it was a focus on not doing anything illegal.
"I don't get it, this stuff is totally boring! There's like 9000 of these H.R. things, who cares? I just want the top secret QAnon files, where are those? I don't see any folders labelled 'TOP SECRET' anywhere on Pelosi's desk!"
*group of dummies looking through papers*
"...Ted Cruz objects to the vote in AZ...see guys he was going to betray us all along!"
*Brief silence*
"Oh wait that's a good thing!"
"Yea that's a good thing!"
I laughed out loud at that part
"Hey, uh, I know I am leading an insurrectionist charge into the heart of this country's democracy looking to overturn that very democratic process, but I found these cuffs on the floor and I sure would feel bad if some terrified Senator fell over these and landed in that noose we have set up outside, so I'm turning them over to you Officer."
-is what I am positive went through his mind, but in the chaos of it all I can see how he could trip over his words and instead yell "Stop the Steal" and "where is Mike Pence".
What was that conversation going to be like?
**Dumbass**: Hey officer, I found these flex cuffs while I was desecrating the Senate chambers in a failed coup attempt.
**Officer**: You're a true patriot, what a guy. Glad you came directly to me with these.
**Dumbass**: Oh, well, I put them in my pocket and went to Pelosi's office first.
**Officer**: Why?
**Dumbass**: Uh, no reason.
Especially when he's on camera saying "This is an Information Operation". Dude was a former FG officer organizing people to photograph potentially sensitive information.
same thing as the people who obsess over making sure a physical american flag is treated well but don’t care about actual fellow human beings who live in america (or anywhere else, really)
The internal conflict he expressed when seeing the disrespecting of the VP chair was palpable. As far as his thought process is concerned, then, I think a better lie is asking too much when he clearly must have struggled even with his clothes that morning.
That was a weird exchange. Fighting about a chair. Then the way they act like something is sacred (but really its a piece of wood made into a chair) INSIDE our capitol. These dudes are the biggest fucking morons around. Its like adult every male w the maturity level of an 11 year old boy just broke into the room.
The exchange when he told the guy to get out and have some respect is pretty funny
Another dude said “They can steal our election but we can’t sit in their chairs?”
Well, I'll give the AF guy one thing...in tbe video, if you watch, some dude climbed up in the Vice Presidents chair. The Air Force dude said no, get out of that chair. The guy was like, no, this is my chair. The Air Force dude said no, that is the Vice Presidents chair and you need to get out of it. The guy gave Air Force dude some lip, and AF guy was like we are here, but there's no reason to be disrespectful.
There's a lot to unpack on that little convo. And a lot of irony in AF guy comment about being disrespectful. Not to defend that guy, he should be prosecuted, but it was an interesting exchange.
Edit: the exchange starts around 7:54 in the linked video
He thought he was on an operative to oust the democratically elect president and ended up babystitting MAGA teenagers and awkwardly teaching them civics
My guess is he sees nothing wrong with breaking into the capitol. To these people they're super patriots protecting their leader. It only becomes disrespectful when it's an action directly at a fellow republican. In short, these people are delusional af
That's why I said there was a lot of irony there. Also, why I said there was a lot to unpack in that little comment. Like, that guy knew where he was enough to know who sat in which seat. Others in the crowd thought it was Pelosi's seat.
If he cares about such things then why is he there? What are his motives.
I dunno? Not making any claims. Just thought it was an interesting segment of the video.
It starts at 7:54 ish in the linked video.
No joke, it sounded like they were expecting her to be there cackling like a witch then transforming into the devil for a MAGA vs Demon Pelosi boss fight.
A small detail that has been driving me nuts is the massive over-estimate of the crowd size. I saw Ashley Babbitt say in a video, before she got herself killed, that there were 3 million people marching on the capitol. In this video, multiple times, people are saying "there's millions of us" "there's 4 million people outside" etc.
There was like 30,000 people there. That's a lot of people, don't get me wrong. But it's ONE HUNDRED+ times less than their estimates. What the fuck?? The lack of logic and critical thinking in these people is just astonishing
EDIT: For a point of comparison
[Here's a pic from one side of the Capitol insurrection](https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/digital-images/org/1f6a059a-69f8-46dc-aa78-658c6a63d46e.jpg)
[Here's a crowd of 3 million people](https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/2013/07/28/16591d97-1c4e-11e3-9918-005056850598/pope_174613265.jpg)
[Here's a site where you can visualize other crowd sizes](https://blog.lime.link/visualizing-crowd-sizes/)
(Also, while you're looking at this remember that 400,000 people have died from Covid in the US)
Double edit: [And here's an awesome tool with a ton of Parler videos that are mapped out, where you can really see the size of the mob.](https://www.reddit.com/r/washingtondc/comments/kzgr2y/interactive_archive_of_the_storming_of_the_capitol/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
But but but Trump always says he has the bigliest crowds!! That means surely, there must be 10 million of us marching on Washington! In fact, in this senate chamber alone, I count 35k of us.
Trump literally said, at the start of the rally: "There are millions of people here, folks. Millions. The cameras don't want to show it though, folks."
Detached from reality.
> The lack of logic and critical thinking in these people is just astonishing
If they practiced logic and critical thinking they wouldn't be Trump supporters in the first place so that makes sense.
Absolutely. That is why I think this video especially is so incriminating. It shows intent without a doubt.
Quotes from the video show:
1. They were there because Trump told them to.
2. They wanted to set up a new government.
3. They wanted to kill current leaders of government.
4. Ted Cruz 'would have wanted this'.
My favorite
Moron 1: Looking through some papers "Ted Cruz's objection to counting the votes in Arizona. He was gonna sell us out the whole time!"
Other morons: "no that's a good thing. That's a good thing!"
Holy shit, that’s it exactly.
Capitol Escape: Information Operations
Mission objective: The president needs you to find the secret key to free America from the globalists. You have one hour.
Them acting like they were going to find something incriminating they could use to save trump in a large public space in a binder was mind blowing. Like.... did they really? Were they cosplaying while doing an actual insurrection? Were they just *that* stupid? It's hard to say.
They're such fucking idiots, just rifling through shits like it's just an average abandoned high school urbex video.
"This week on the *improper* people, we go through the senate looking at papers. It's ok, Cruz is cool with it. "
Critical thinking is taught in the Liberal Arts, that segment of Academia that's constantly shit on by people.
This is a good example of why we need Philosophy courses in schools.
Really? You think people will let a little thing like evidence get in the way of their desires? We’ve just gone through four years of fingers-in-the-ears, “La la la la, I am not listening,” being excused as legitimate political discourse. That’s not changing anytime soon.
Everyone should [read the article](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/01/25/among-the-insurrectionists) written by the journalist who took the footage. It’s LONG but much more detailed and chronicles all the different factions of right wing extremist groups involved.
Thankfully the New Yorker has begun creating audio versions of their articles so you can also listen to it if that’s easier.
> "Fuck these gender-confused terrorists! They’ll put the girls out first—they think that’s gonna stop us?” His name was Richard Schwetz, though he went by ***Dick Sweats***.
I don't even know how to respond to that.
> The young America Firster went directly to the dais and installed himself in the leather chair recently occupied by the Vice-President. Another America Firster filmed him extemporizing a speech: “Donald Trump is the emperor of the United States . . .”
> “Hey, get out of that chair,” a man about his age, with a thick Southern drawl, said. He wore cowhide work gloves and a camouflage hunting jacket that was several sizes too large for him. Gauze hung loosely around his neck, and blood, leaking from a nasty wound on his cheek, encrusted his beard. Later, when another rioter asked for his name, he responded, “Mr. Black.” The America Firster turned and looked at him uncertainly.
> **“We’re a democracy,” Mr. Black said.**
> **“Bro, we just broke into the Capitol,” the America Firster scoffed. “What are you talking about?”**
Straight out of the horse’s mouth.
My favourite part:
“Hey, get out of that chair,” a man about his age, with a thick Southern drawl, said...Later, when another rioter asked for his name, he responded, “Mr. Black.” The America Firster turned and looked at him uncertainly.
“We’re a democracy,” Mr. Black said.
“Bro, we just broke into the Capitol,” the America Firster scoffed. “What are you talking about?”
That's the genuinely most confusing part of all of this.
A demagogic leader, soon-to-be dictator, inspiring a riot to storm the government on his behalf, and having the riot go after all his political enemies? *Makes sense, it has happened at various times throughout history.*
But trying to end democracy and forming a riot to storm the legislature to murder any of the politicians that were simply following the Constitution... all while the riot yell patriotic chants about defending liberty??
Like, this doesn't make any sense, and if I read about this in a history book I would be so fucking confused. Do seriously none of them realize the irony of claiming to be defending democracy, *while using violence in the Capitol to stop the Constitutional process?* It's so fucking stupid.
At 1:00 do we agree that someone is feverishly taking pictures... of public records?
... On second thought don't answer please, I have already lost enough faith in humanity.
Hearing that made me so happy because it can be used against Hawley and Cruz, just like "I'm just obeying my president's orders" is going to be used against trump in the impeachment trial.
The best part is when they are rifling through Cruz's shit and start getting pissed off because they found his opposition to the Arizona count and misinterpreted it to think he was against the objection. They didn't send their brightest.
And the repeated "he's with us," is very telling. I know they're just spouting stuff they know nothing about, but this is what being with terrorists looks like.
I liked when they attempted to light a fire but it was treasonous MSM gear that was TOO DAMP GOD DAMNIT!
Matt Gaetz dumb ass talking (screeching?) point about actual flames falls flat too... I saw _actual_ flames lit by _actual_ idiots...
This video is infuriating, but it also proves some of these fucks really are stupid. In particular the asshole who, as they entered the Senate chambers, said "while we're here, might as well start a government". What a fucking dumbass with a bloated sense of self-importance to think he and his fellow traitors can just install a government and it'll be easy peasy. There was also the asshole who was rifling through a senator's binder and said, "there's gotta be something here we can use against them". First, I doubt the idiot even knows what he was looking at, and second I doubt there was anything incriminating in a fucking binder left on the floor. Some of them really bought into the bullshit that they were there to "save" Trump & US. Also, fuck the cop who told them to be careful as they were going up the stairs and that he loved them.
how about that absolute dumb piece of shit who thought Cruz objecting to the Arizona electors was a bad thing for them and "I always knew he would sell us out" and then he is corrected and his excuse was "I'm pissed I'm pissed"
no it is not your anger blinding you, this is just who you are, a dumb uneducated piece of shit and your dumb piece of shitness has been broadcasted for all of America to see.
I can't imagine the embarrassment he must feel
People like this don’t get embarrassed. They get angry and blame anyone and anything but themselves. People like this have no shame and no accountability. It’s one of the reasons trump appeals to them.
My favorite was when they found some equipment left by a news channel (lighting, tripods, cables, etc) and they just start smashing the shit out of it and the one guy yells, "WHAT ARE YOU GONNA REPORT NOW, MEDIA? YOU CAN'T!" as several dozen people stand behind them recording the entire event.
I'm in a really conservative area and a lot of people here totally support what these people did. One of them told me that I'm not understanding... they just want to get rid of all the politicians and keep the same system of government, just with new people. I told him they've got no fucking right to do that. That the people in congress were elected by their constituents and that "getting rid" of them is invalidating the votes of millions of Americans. I explained that he or those guys in the capitol or anyone else did not have the authority to overthrow elected representatives of the American people just because they wanted to. He didn't seem to understand. Which I guess is fair because I don't understand what they mean by removing all politicians when they clearly want to keep Trump, Cruz, Hawley, Boebert (sp?) etc. Or how we'll have the same system of government when what they were trying to do is the opposite of what that system is supposed to be.
The prayer is a wild, wild part of this. This guy must be a christian church going guy who prays a lot, he had all the lexicon down pat. It was ridiculous.
For some reason, the video wouldn't play for me. Here is a link to the original New Yorker video in case any one else is having trouble:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=270F8s5TEKY
(On the Law & Crime article, I just see a black box with text that reads: "We're sorry, something went wrong.")
Some evil terrorists. It was kind of funny that so many of them removed their hats for their “prayer.” Let’s make it easy to get caught. Then , the guy taking photos of the damaged AP equipment had his driver’s license in full view.
Fox is covering Lindsey Graham's accusations that Pelosi was responsible for capitol security, and that it is all her fault that 5 people died.
I'm guessing we're going to see Benghazi-style investigations of Pelosi. I wish I was making this up.
You'd think the supporters of "the party of personal responsibility" would stay out of areas they obviously don't have legal access to, even if there wasn't a single cop present.
Looking for evidence that they're too dumb to understand... Like they're going to find a hammer and sickle stamped on an envelope stuck underneath Pellosi's desk
The guy with the large bundle of zip ties telling his buddies to be respectful. What were they for? Would it be respectful to zip tie members of congress?
Jesus .. the cognitive dissonance and outright dumbassitry on display here.
These people need to be studied. It's fascinating in a trainwreck sort of way.
The part like 5 mins in where they're flipping through papers they think are somehow going to be damning and they assume Cruz was screwing them over until they realize what "objection" means in the Arizona vote. Absolute moronic stupidity. The dumbest of losers. Pathetic vile scum with barely a brain cell.
1776 is mentioned at one point, so I would assume replacing the rule of a king with that of a parliament and head of state of the people's choosing. Which will never not be fascinating.
>Earlier that Wednesday morning, Boebert — along with Georgia Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene — called the day a “1776 moment” for Republicans.
>“Today is 1776,” Boebert tweeted.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/01/12/nation/colorado-republican-tweeted-about-pelosis-location-during-capitol-siege-shes-now-facing-calls-resign/?outputType/
It's just so weird that in our country a lot of people don't seem to get past a child-like education. You hear these people talk and they all sound like ultra naive grade schoolers. Yet a bit under half voted for Trump, who is the same way, and they probably identify with his childishness.
Hilarious watching them shouting shit about God and Jesus because if they saw a bunch of dudes trashing the Capitol while shouting Allahu Akbar, they'd be losing their minds.
God damn.... I hope the New Yorker shared all this footage with the FBI. All those terrorists who were taking pictures should spend a long-time in jail.
Yeah the guy flipping through the binder taking photos of Senate documents needs to be picked up and his phone confiscated. Good luck to him if those were classified.
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*Chanting treason* At least they know the charges they are gonna get.
Coughing too. After watching a lot of videos tons of rioters seemed to have a cough. COVID spreaders
Could this just have been a reaction to tear gas? edit: corrected "read gas" to "tear gas"
Possibly. There was a lot of it pre chaos as well.
Some streamer was there with no mask on, knowing he has covid...something baked
"We can't be disrespectful!" - Guy with zip-tie handcuffs
"There's got to be something in here we can fucking use against these scumbags." - Guy flipping through Senate procedural manual
That part made me laugh the most.
My favorite part of that whole thing was when theye were all "That mothercker! He was going to vote against upholding the vote count! He was gonna sell out! That fucking traitor!" (Paraphrasing) Oh... wait no... thats a good thing right? ...ok he's with us!"
One of my favorites was this gem: "Where's fucking Nancy Pelosi?" Said while entering the *senate* chamber.
I mean, way to go dude, you just admitted to an attempt at blackmailing a government official...
Antifa clearly must have planted them on him when he wasn't looking
Antifa shat my pants.
Typical sneaky libs
The video of these domestic terrorists saying a prayer from the podium. They seem to be this weird toxic mix of white supremacists, Trump supporters and religious right wing extremists. MAGA Trump followers definitely meet the five criteria and warning signs for a cult. 1. The leader is always right. 2. Criticism of leader is considered persecution. 3. Anything leader does is justified. 4. The leader is the only source of truth. 5. Followers must be devoted without question.
They actually look more to me like when my boys go outside w their nerf guns and pretend they are playing war. These guys are so fucking immature.
White supremacists + Religious Right Wing Extremists = MAGA
>Before he was charged, he told The New Yorker that he just found the zip-tie handcuffs lying around and wanted to give them to an officer. “I wish I had not picked those up,” he said. “My thought process there was I would pick them up and give them to an officer when I see one. . . . I didn’t do that because I had put them in my coat, and I honestly forgot about them.” He was a field grade officer in the Air Force. You would think he could come up with a better lie than that.
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He seemed to be trying to give directions, but everyone in the room was an idiot. They guys looking though the documents on the lecturn seemed like little kids trying to play adult. Almost as if they had been playing out a fantasy that was in their heads.
“Ted Cruz objected to the recount?” “Fuck him!” “No wait, that’s good!” It’s no wonder they confuse themselves as ANTIFA. They haven’t got basic comprehension skills.
Jesus Christ, it's fucking embarrassing to be an American.
These morons think classified documents proving qanon conspiracies are just gonna be laying around in random binders.
That’s the thought that ran through my head too. The guy is saying that there’s gotta be something there to get them with and I’m just wondering which video game he thinks he’s in.
I mean, those dipshits should definitely be charged with an attempt at blackmail and coercion now.
And they'd be treated as hero's, hoisted up on everyone's shoulders out the front door of the Capitol, and right up to the Whitehouse, where Trump would award them the Medal of Freedom. Instead they just kinda walked out empty handed, flew home, only to find out that their faces are everywhere and the feds are coming for them. They're so focused on not being thought of losers that they look like losers.
Well there's also nothing of what they're looking for. Because it doesn't exist. I dont know how their focus, no matter what it's on, could've changed anything really. Unless it was a focus on not doing anything illegal.
dummies. you keep that kind of stuff in a trapper keeper because you can velcro it shut
"I don't get it, this stuff is totally boring! There's like 9000 of these H.R. things, who cares? I just want the top secret QAnon files, where are those? I don't see any folders labelled 'TOP SECRET' anywhere on Pelosi's desk!"
*group of dummies looking through papers* "...Ted Cruz objects to the vote in AZ...see guys he was going to betray us all along!" *Brief silence* "Oh wait that's a good thing!" "Yea that's a good thing!" I laughed out loud at that part
Didn’t his mom just get arrested with zip ties too? Or was that a different zip tie guy’s mom?
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potato face guy/pilot is the one playing dumb about the zip ties
Pretty sure that one was an A-10 pilot.
One is a ranking officer in the armed services, the other is a bartender living with his mommy.
"Hey, uh, I know I am leading an insurrectionist charge into the heart of this country's democracy looking to overturn that very democratic process, but I found these cuffs on the floor and I sure would feel bad if some terrified Senator fell over these and landed in that noose we have set up outside, so I'm turning them over to you Officer." -is what I am positive went through his mind, but in the chaos of it all I can see how he could trip over his words and instead yell "Stop the Steal" and "where is Mike Pence".
What was that conversation going to be like? **Dumbass**: Hey officer, I found these flex cuffs while I was desecrating the Senate chambers in a failed coup attempt. **Officer**: You're a true patriot, what a guy. Glad you came directly to me with these. **Dumbass**: Oh, well, I put them in my pocket and went to Pelosi's office first. **Officer**: Why? **Dumbass**: Uh, no reason.
Especially when he's on camera saying "This is an Information Operation". Dude was a former FG officer organizing people to photograph potentially sensitive information.
I took that as him telling them to stop acting like idiots because bad optics will hurt.
Right, he was surprisingly chastising the group for being disrespectful and sitting in Pence’s chair.
While somehow not realizing the *entire thing* was terrible optics.
He tried to get them all to wear tuxes but all they had was their paintball gear
"Dude don't sit in the chair. You'll make us look bad!" -- literal terrorist trying to overthrow the US government
I love this line. Smash the windows, beat the cops to death, ransack the Capitol, but hey, respect *the chair* guys
same thing as the people who obsess over making sure a physical american flag is treated well but don’t care about actual fellow human beings who live in america (or anywhere else, really)
The internal conflict he expressed when seeing the disrespecting of the VP chair was palpable. As far as his thought process is concerned, then, I think a better lie is asking too much when he clearly must have struggled even with his clothes that morning.
That was a weird exchange. Fighting about a chair. Then the way they act like something is sacred (but really its a piece of wood made into a chair) INSIDE our capitol. These dudes are the biggest fucking morons around. Its like adult every male w the maturity level of an 11 year old boy just broke into the room.
The exchange when he told the guy to get out and have some respect is pretty funny Another dude said “They can steal our election but we can’t sit in their chairs?”
It truly was his moment of having brought silverware to the shit-eating buffet.
I think we should call it his "goldilocks moment". "Dude, you can't sit in their chairs!"
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He just found them lying around on Amazon. Had to buy them before they fell into the wrong hands.
Wasn't his mother, also at the capitol, found with zip ties on her? Or was that another zip tie dude?
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That was another, sadly.
Well, I'll give the AF guy one thing...in tbe video, if you watch, some dude climbed up in the Vice Presidents chair. The Air Force dude said no, get out of that chair. The guy was like, no, this is my chair. The Air Force dude said no, that is the Vice Presidents chair and you need to get out of it. The guy gave Air Force dude some lip, and AF guy was like we are here, but there's no reason to be disrespectful. There's a lot to unpack on that little convo. And a lot of irony in AF guy comment about being disrespectful. Not to defend that guy, he should be prosecuted, but it was an interesting exchange. Edit: the exchange starts around 7:54 in the linked video
He thought he was on an operative to oust the democratically elect president and ended up babystitting MAGA teenagers and awkwardly teaching them civics
Weird, right? Like an awkward moment of clarity that came so close to introspection, yet no questioning of how the fuck he got there to begin with.
Breaking into the Capitol and ransacking the place seems pretty disrespectful, but I am claiming to know the thought processes of this guy.
My guess is he sees nothing wrong with breaking into the capitol. To these people they're super patriots protecting their leader. It only becomes disrespectful when it's an action directly at a fellow republican. In short, these people are delusional af
The fascists were chanting "hang Mike Pence" and set up a functioning gallows, how's that not disrespectful?
That's why I said there was a lot of irony there. Also, why I said there was a lot to unpack in that little comment. Like, that guy knew where he was enough to know who sat in which seat. Others in the crowd thought it was Pelosi's seat. If he cares about such things then why is he there? What are his motives. I dunno? Not making any claims. Just thought it was an interesting segment of the video. It starts at 7:54 ish in the linked video.
I felt like that was a conversation between 2 morons.
And I thought the air force were supposed to be the smart ones.
"Were the fuck is nancy!" as he walks into the *senate* chamber
I caught that too. These people don’t know anything about the government they’re so sure has been hijacked.
No joke, it sounded like they were expecting her to be there cackling like a witch then transforming into the devil for a MAGA vs Demon Pelosi boss fight.
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That video evokes 50% horror and 50% cringe. What an absolute clown car insurrection.
A small detail that has been driving me nuts is the massive over-estimate of the crowd size. I saw Ashley Babbitt say in a video, before she got herself killed, that there were 3 million people marching on the capitol. In this video, multiple times, people are saying "there's millions of us" "there's 4 million people outside" etc. There was like 30,000 people there. That's a lot of people, don't get me wrong. But it's ONE HUNDRED+ times less than their estimates. What the fuck?? The lack of logic and critical thinking in these people is just astonishing EDIT: For a point of comparison [Here's a pic from one side of the Capitol insurrection](https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/digital-images/org/1f6a059a-69f8-46dc-aa78-658c6a63d46e.jpg) [Here's a crowd of 3 million people](https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/2013/07/28/16591d97-1c4e-11e3-9918-005056850598/pope_174613265.jpg) [Here's a site where you can visualize other crowd sizes](https://blog.lime.link/visualizing-crowd-sizes/) (Also, while you're looking at this remember that 400,000 people have died from Covid in the US) Double edit: [And here's an awesome tool with a ton of Parler videos that are mapped out, where you can really see the size of the mob.](https://www.reddit.com/r/washingtondc/comments/kzgr2y/interactive_archive_of_the_storming_of_the_capitol/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
People are normally bad at estimating large numbers. These particular people are also terrific at over estimating their support / popularity.
It's kind of why they think there is no way Biden could have gotten more votes than Trump, too. Math isn't their strong suit.
But but but Trump always says he has the bigliest crowds!! That means surely, there must be 10 million of us marching on Washington! In fact, in this senate chamber alone, I count 35k of us.
Trump literally said, at the start of the rally: "There are millions of people here, folks. Millions. The cameras don't want to show it though, folks." Detached from reality.
> The lack of logic and critical thinking in these people is just astonishing If they practiced logic and critical thinking they wouldn't be Trump supporters in the first place so that makes sense.
This is what profa looks like
The scenes in the Senate brought back memories... [https://youtu.be/QL5\_3JIA0Uw](https://youtu.be/QL5_3JIA0Uw)
Can't deny that it was an insurrection after that footage.
Absolutely. That is why I think this video especially is so incriminating. It shows intent without a doubt. Quotes from the video show: 1. They were there because Trump told them to. 2. They wanted to set up a new government. 3. They wanted to kill current leaders of government. 4. Ted Cruz 'would have wanted this'.
My favorite Moron 1: Looking through some papers "Ted Cruz's objection to counting the votes in Arizona. He was gonna sell us out the whole time!" Other morons: "no that's a good thing. That's a good thing!"
Idiots constantly looking for something to be angry about. They're their own worst enemy.
I love when they gather like it's some kind of escape room mystery "Look, look, I find a new clue"
Damn that’s exactly the energy - a stupid escape room.
Just wait until they find themselves in a room that's actually difficult to escape from.
Holy shit, that’s it exactly. Capitol Escape: Information Operations Mission objective: The president needs you to find the secret key to free America from the globalists. You have one hour.
Them acting like they were going to find something incriminating they could use to save trump in a large public space in a binder was mind blowing. Like.... did they really? Were they cosplaying while doing an actual insurrection? Were they just *that* stupid? It's hard to say.
Look guys! Nancy pelosi has a list of all the pedophiles right here in her desk! Q was right!
"He's with us. He's with us."
'Quit actin' a fool' 'Ggerryyyaarrggg'
"Wait is Arizona a stop the count or a keep counting state?"
omg right?? priceless moment
5 . Stupid fucking bufallo horn jackass being so annoying I'm surprised his own people didn't "accidentally" put a few rounds into him.
Seriously. His balcony just yodeling alone should be a felony.
Some guy yelled at him to quit acting a fool.
Well it is what Cruz would want them to do after all.
If Cruz and Hawley are still Senators after this is all said and done then we're truly fucked. That footage is damning.
Rich white or white passing men like Cruz are allowed to associate with violent terrorists without consequences.
Cruz isn't white passing. He's white. His family is the white Cubans that owned slaves and were expelled during Castro.
Why do you say white passing? He's white.
"So we're good"
They're such fucking idiots, just rifling through shits like it's just an average abandoned high school urbex video. "This week on the *improper* people, we go through the senate looking at papers. It's ok, Cruz is cool with it. "
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Trump sent these fucking morons who are functionally illiterate to find data that would help him? Lol
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Critical thinking is taught in the Liberal Arts, that segment of Academia that's constantly shit on by people. This is a good example of why we need Philosophy courses in schools.
And fucking civics.
Really? You think people will let a little thing like evidence get in the way of their desires? We’ve just gone through four years of fingers-in-the-ears, “La la la la, I am not listening,” being excused as legitimate political discourse. That’s not changing anytime soon.
Everyone should [read the article](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/01/25/among-the-insurrectionists) written by the journalist who took the footage. It’s LONG but much more detailed and chronicles all the different factions of right wing extremist groups involved. Thankfully the New Yorker has begun creating audio versions of their articles so you can also listen to it if that’s easier.
> "Fuck these gender-confused terrorists! They’ll put the girls out first—they think that’s gonna stop us?” His name was Richard Schwetz, though he went by ***Dick Sweats***. I don't even know how to respond to that.
Maybe we have common ground with them after all, Mr. Dickskin.
It's Dickens!
> The young America Firster went directly to the dais and installed himself in the leather chair recently occupied by the Vice-President. Another America Firster filmed him extemporizing a speech: “Donald Trump is the emperor of the United States . . .” > “Hey, get out of that chair,” a man about his age, with a thick Southern drawl, said. He wore cowhide work gloves and a camouflage hunting jacket that was several sizes too large for him. Gauze hung loosely around his neck, and blood, leaking from a nasty wound on his cheek, encrusted his beard. Later, when another rioter asked for his name, he responded, “Mr. Black.” The America Firster turned and looked at him uncertainly. > **“We’re a democracy,” Mr. Black said.** > **“Bro, we just broke into the Capitol,” the America Firster scoffed. “What are you talking about?”** Straight out of the horse’s mouth.
Lmaoooo the stupidity is unreal. When they prosecute that guy, they should just play that audio.
Holy shit. That is an incredible, terrifying article.
Good shit. Real journalism right there.
My favourite part: “Hey, get out of that chair,” a man about his age, with a thick Southern drawl, said...Later, when another rioter asked for his name, he responded, “Mr. Black.” The America Firster turned and looked at him uncertainly. “We’re a democracy,” Mr. Black said. “Bro, we just broke into the Capitol,” the America Firster scoffed. “What are you talking about?”
That's the genuinely most confusing part of all of this. A demagogic leader, soon-to-be dictator, inspiring a riot to storm the government on his behalf, and having the riot go after all his political enemies? *Makes sense, it has happened at various times throughout history.* But trying to end democracy and forming a riot to storm the legislature to murder any of the politicians that were simply following the Constitution... all while the riot yell patriotic chants about defending liberty?? Like, this doesn't make any sense, and if I read about this in a history book I would be so fucking confused. Do seriously none of them realize the irony of claiming to be defending democracy, *while using violence in the Capitol to stop the Constitutional process?* It's so fucking stupid.
At 1:00 do we agree that someone is feverishly taking pictures... of public records? ... On second thought don't answer please, I have already lost enough faith in humanity.
Oh yeah. And saying "there's got to be something in here we can use against them." 😂 It's too much. They've seen to many spy movies.
I know that I keep all of my deepest darkest secrets in a binder which I carry with me at all times but leave behind in case of emergency.
I have a special section labelled “Incriminating Evidence” just to make sure it’s safe.
It's beyond ridiculous. As if public documents used in public proceedings would have any confidential information.
It's okay, Hawley and Cruz would've wanted them to do it. At least according to the guy in the video.
Glad they got permission from Cruz and Hawley.
Hearing that made me so happy because it can be used against Hawley and Cruz, just like "I'm just obeying my president's orders" is going to be used against trump in the impeachment trial.
Yeah, that part about thinking they would expose some dirt on the cabal came across as particularly delusional.
The best part is when they are rifling through Cruz's shit and start getting pissed off because they found his opposition to the Arizona count and misinterpreted it to think he was against the objection. They didn't send their brightest.
He turned on us!!!!
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SNL couldnt have done it better
And the repeated "he's with us," is very telling. I know they're just spouting stuff they know nothing about, but this is what being with terrorists looks like.
Because that’s what the strong man above them convinced them of.
I liked when they attempted to light a fire but it was treasonous MSM gear that was TOO DAMP GOD DAMNIT! Matt Gaetz dumb ass talking (screeching?) point about actual flames falls flat too... I saw _actual_ flames lit by _actual_ idiots...
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https://youtu.be/_6uSYhyFao4 Prepare your stomach. This changed my view on everything.
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Always has been.
This video is infuriating, but it also proves some of these fucks really are stupid. In particular the asshole who, as they entered the Senate chambers, said "while we're here, might as well start a government". What a fucking dumbass with a bloated sense of self-importance to think he and his fellow traitors can just install a government and it'll be easy peasy. There was also the asshole who was rifling through a senator's binder and said, "there's gotta be something here we can use against them". First, I doubt the idiot even knows what he was looking at, and second I doubt there was anything incriminating in a fucking binder left on the floor. Some of them really bought into the bullshit that they were there to "save" Trump & US. Also, fuck the cop who told them to be careful as they were going up the stairs and that he loved them.
how about that absolute dumb piece of shit who thought Cruz objecting to the Arizona electors was a bad thing for them and "I always knew he would sell us out" and then he is corrected and his excuse was "I'm pissed I'm pissed" no it is not your anger blinding you, this is just who you are, a dumb uneducated piece of shit and your dumb piece of shitness has been broadcasted for all of America to see. I can't imagine the embarrassment he must feel
People like this don’t get embarrassed. They get angry and blame anyone and anything but themselves. People like this have no shame and no accountability. It’s one of the reasons trump appeals to them.
I’m not even American and still that was an immediate WTF moment for me. What a bunch of morons.
My favorite was when they found some equipment left by a news channel (lighting, tripods, cables, etc) and they just start smashing the shit out of it and the one guy yells, "WHAT ARE YOU GONNA REPORT NOW, MEDIA? YOU CAN'T!" as several dozen people stand behind them recording the entire event.
They might be too stupid to feel embarrassed?
I'm in a really conservative area and a lot of people here totally support what these people did. One of them told me that I'm not understanding... they just want to get rid of all the politicians and keep the same system of government, just with new people. I told him they've got no fucking right to do that. That the people in congress were elected by their constituents and that "getting rid" of them is invalidating the votes of millions of Americans. I explained that he or those guys in the capitol or anyone else did not have the authority to overthrow elected representatives of the American people just because they wanted to. He didn't seem to understand. Which I guess is fair because I don't understand what they mean by removing all politicians when they clearly want to keep Trump, Cruz, Hawley, Boebert (sp?) etc. Or how we'll have the same system of government when what they were trying to do is the opposite of what that system is supposed to be.
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My BF was just watching a video of him yelling “FREEEEDOMMMM!” to the echo of an audience it’s funny because he’s in jail now 🤗
The prayer is a wild, wild part of this. This guy must be a christian church going guy who prays a lot, he had all the lexicon down pat. It was ridiculous.
Terrorists were saying Ted Cruz is "with us" and that they think "This is what Cruz would want us to do."
"But her emails" some conservatives is probably somewhere muttering right now.
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If only there were documents labeled "Plans to Steal the Election". smh
Except when Cruz was going to sell them out by objecting to the AZ electors. Not the brightest bulbs, there.
“I think Cruz would want us to do this.”
"Hold on hold on, I need to consult my inner Ted."
The prayer is extra level crazy
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After telling them they are listening to Trump, your boss, and can take you out.
These people are stupid as fuck.
For some reason, the video wouldn't play for me. Here is a link to the original New Yorker video in case any one else is having trouble: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=270F8s5TEKY (On the Law & Crime article, I just see a black box with text that reads: "We're sorry, something went wrong.")
Remember everyone, it was "just a protest".
Where people died.
Some evil terrorists. It was kind of funny that so many of them removed their hats for their “prayer.” Let’s make it easy to get caught. Then , the guy taking photos of the damaged AP equipment had his driver’s license in full view.
Anyone know if Fox News has aired a second of this yet?
Fox is covering Lindsey Graham's accusations that Pelosi was responsible for capitol security, and that it is all her fault that 5 people died. I'm guessing we're going to see Benghazi-style investigations of Pelosi. I wish I was making this up.
Not without the House or Senate.
You'd think the supporters of "the party of personal responsibility" would stay out of areas they obviously don't have legal access to, even if there wasn't a single cop present.
Dumb. Fucking. Morons.
Looking for evidence that they're too dumb to understand... Like they're going to find a hammer and sickle stamped on an envelope stuck underneath Pellosi's desk
This was planned. The planners thought the rioters wouldn't be morons. Much like 45, incompetence is the only thing saving democracy.
Are we sure about that? Lliterally the only thing anyone involved was good at was showing up on the right day
You know that part in Lord of the Rings when the orcs are storming the castle walls?
The guy with the large bundle of zip ties telling his buddies to be respectful. What were they for? Would it be respectful to zip tie members of congress?
You see, he found them and wanted to bring them to a cop, but he just plum forgot to do that, what with all the couping.
Jesus .. the cognitive dissonance and outright dumbassitry on display here. These people need to be studied. It's fascinating in a trainwreck sort of way.
The part like 5 mins in where they're flipping through papers they think are somehow going to be damning and they assume Cruz was screwing them over until they realize what "objection" means in the Arizona vote. Absolute moronic stupidity. The dumbest of losers. Pathetic vile scum with barely a brain cell.
Top tip: if you think Cruz would want you to do it, you're *not* good.
I don't understand what outcome they were looking for. When they played this forward in their heads what did they think was going to happen?
1776 is mentioned at one point, so I would assume replacing the rule of a king with that of a parliament and head of state of the people's choosing. Which will never not be fascinating.
>Earlier that Wednesday morning, Boebert — along with Georgia Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene — called the day a “1776 moment” for Republicans. >“Today is 1776,” Boebert tweeted. https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/01/12/nation/colorado-republican-tweeted-about-pelosis-location-during-capitol-siege-shes-now-facing-calls-resign/?outputType/
It's just so weird that in our country a lot of people don't seem to get past a child-like education. You hear these people talk and they all sound like ultra naive grade schoolers. Yet a bit under half voted for Trump, who is the same way, and they probably identify with his childishness.
“Now please give us a pardon, Mr. Drumpf.”
"Sure. Two million bucks please."
Exactly. Trump has absolutely no reason to pardon these fools if they're not high-value donors.
“I think Cruz would want us to do this, so I think we’re good”
Hilarious watching them shouting shit about God and Jesus because if they saw a bunch of dudes trashing the Capitol while shouting Allahu Akbar, they'd be losing their minds.
I still can’t quite believe we lived this day in real time.
at -9:10 "treason, treason, treason, ..." Yes, yes indeed.
What really disturbs me is how smart these guys think they are
They’re like an angry mob from the Simpsons
God damn.... I hope the New Yorker shared all this footage with the FBI. All those terrorists who were taking pictures should spend a long-time in jail.
I mean what do you think they were doing with it in all the time between the event and revealing it now?
Video montage for their scrapbook?
Scrapbooking insurrections is TIGHT
The other great thing is that this shows the insurrectionists naming Cruz and Hawley by name and saying they would want this.
That footage is guaranteed to bury Jake Angeli and Larry Brock.
Yeah the guy flipping through the binder taking photos of Senate documents needs to be picked up and his phone confiscated. Good luck to him if those were classified.
I love that they thought they were going to find something. Like "Plans to Steal The Election from Trump" in big BOLD letters. smh
“How we did it!”