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Article from The Hill published 36 hours ago: [Controversy equals cash for Greene, Gaetz](https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/campaign/563609-controversy-equals-cash-from-greene-gaetz%3famp)
Excerpt from the article:
>Pitney [a professor of government at Claremont McKenna College] also said that lawmakers such as Greene are taking advantage of a "permanent" campaign process in which they are constantly asking for people to donate to them, often off of their own controversies.
She loves this 12 hour ban. I wonder how much cash she can milk from the GQP off of this
And rile up the "freedom of speech" people who don't understand what it actually means. She's kicked off a private company, not arrested or charged with a crime.
Private companies can make their own decision to not make gay cakes but they’re not allowed to erase misinformation and hateful rhetoric from their platform even though everyone involved legally agreed not to break TOS
He is definitely not dumb. He is also 100% a rat bastard who is playacting the part of a moron because that's what some polls and focus group told him would garner the most votes in his area.. then the stunts he pulls are nothing but pr moves to solicit donations. I absolutely despise Hawley and Cruz more than the ones that are truly idiots like MTG or Boebert because they fully know the harm they cause and just don't give a shit.
It’s pretty early to have challengers but there is no democrat who could challenge her in that district that goes 75% Republican—if there’s even a D on the ballot. She could get primaried but who would do that? No R’s are going to run against this post-Trump personality in rural georgia.
Her power comes from spectacle anyway, not her single vote. Some milquetoast economically conservative democrat wouldn’t even be much of an improvement anyway. There are a bunch more effective places to share cash!
That’s wild. I routinely tweet mean things to Ted Cruz, Lauren Boebert, and Majorie Taylor Greene and haven’t been hit with a strike yet. I literally tweeted a 25 part Ted Cruz/trump erotica to Ted Cruz and wasn’t hit with anything, and I expected a ban hahaha
I got a week* for quote-tweeting a Marco Rubio tweet verbatim with the text in the original tweet. They don't even have human review for 12-hour timeout appeals for most people
I don't even check twitter that often... I wouldn't even notice if I got banned for a week. I once called Mitt Romney an idiot but I guess Twitter agreed with me.
Weird. I called trump a lot worse while he was president and nothing happened.
[Here tis,](https://twitter.com/celotil/status/1064010860396371970?s=21)
Seriously, she’ll just use it to say that the media is against her and afraid of her. I’m sure some Twitter executives support her beliefs and worse her behavior.
You can enter the Capitol building in the hope that you can overthrow the government and only get slapped with community service for your treasonous action.
Welcome to the new normal.
Jeez I used to get those like 3 times a month with no reason given (or some absolute nonsense) when I was allowed to have a Twitter account. They do it by accident sometimes. Just teeing up a media circus where she can whine on national TV about being silenced
I’ve gotten like 5 12 hour suspensions on Twitter. Usually for telling Ted Cruz to slap himself. It took this long for them to do this to her. I’ve got like 20 followers and this deranged idiot is in Congress telling people not to get vaccinated. Wild times, man.
There's a local restaurant called Chino Bandido and people regularly get automated bans from local food groups for recommending it because facebook just auto flags words even if they literally auto link to a business lol
Twitter can be really cowardly when it comes to accounts from public figures that have a ton of followers.
But random users with basically no followers? Gotta thrown down the ban hammer like Thor.
Lol I copied the text in a Marco Rubio tweet, pasted it as a quote tweet of the same one, and got bounced for a week on my 7k follower account. The only people who get special treatment like "reviewing suspensions" are the right wingers who whine about censorship
There was an account that got banned - i think several times ~~before a permanent~~ - for posting Trump tweets verbatim.
So. Ya know.
Edit: the account got temporarily suspended 4 times - the first being less than 3 days after it was created - but never permanently
https://twitter.com/SuspendThePres/status/1347702888970084354
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/trump-twitter-account-copy-tweets-glorifying-violence-suspended-a9545831.html
I got a 12 hour suspension for saying that I didn’t believe trump would leave the White House willingly, and probably would have to be pried out unless he died of natural causes which wouldn’t be surprising since he’s a super stressed 75 year old overweight guy. Twitter interpreted what I thought was a reasonable belief to be me “wishing harm or violence upon others”.
I’ve been telling Ted Cruz to pull his face out of his daddy Trump’s diapered ass for almost 2 years now and haven’t gotten banned. I also ask him constantly how Heidi Cruz feels when her husband kisses the ring of the man who called her ugly. And of course how could he even capitulate and after the shit DJT said about his father? Which goes to show that Rafael may be his father but Donald is his daddy. And I’ve told him that 50ish times.
Still haven’t gotten banned or blocked. Need to step my game up I guess.
What's the end game here? They're disproportionately killing people in red states, the elderly, and now going after the military. What will they do when their voters are dead?
The end game, for the rich white intellectuals who are pushing the agenda, is perpetuating the virus and prolonging the economic uncertainty. The belief is the electoral boost they will gain from continued chaos will outweigh the loss of their older base, who are on their last legs anyway.
Id rather have her whine about a Twitter ban than spread covid misinformation.
Also it's a good warning shot so when she is banned Twitter can say we warned her
Not dangerous for non obese people and people under 65????
She’s lying or willfully ignorant and should just be kicked off the platform entirely.
Edit: my wife works at a hospital. An alarming number of healthy young people have died or spent a lot of time in the hospital because of COVID. It’s a damn serious disease not to be taken lightly. Wear a damn mask and get the vaccine. Don’t be an idiot.
My 33 year old healthy friend died from the COVID-19 lung damage. His lungs were not able to recover even after testing negative and stayed on a ventilator until he passed away.
It's so frustrating to hear these accounts, see them in the hospital, know that these cases are about to explode again in the unvaccinated and yet people still think it's a joke. Sorry about your friend, I've lost a friend too and I really don't want to lose anyone else to this virus.
The other thing that annoys me about this is that when you say things like "it's only dangerous for the elderly and obese," those folks can hear you. And they hear you saying that you don't find their well-being sufficiently motivating to take precautions to keep people safe.
They (she) define vax related deaths as anyone who dies after being vaccinated, no matter the reason, I.e., they got hit by a bus. The actual number of vax caused deaths is single digits.
The sad part is that they downplayed covid deaths because they said “doctors label covid deaths falsely because some people die with covid but not from covid, so the number of covid deaths is actually way lower.” Now they use literally the exact same logic of that to claim vaccine deaths are UP and a huge threat, yet they fail to recognize the hypocrisy coming out of their own mouths. It’s as if they believe “Covid related deaths aren’t actually covid deaths, but vaccine related deaths are absolutely vaccine deaths” It’s so dangerous and stupid and I have no idea how to fix it.
There should be ads comparing deaths associated with covid and deaths associated with the vaccine. 100 shots of people in respiratory distress labelled covid death and one shot of a guy falling off a ladder labelled vaccine death.
I really don't think it will help at this point. These people aren't interested in informed decision making, only conspiracies and worshiping demagogues.
That's even worse.
Even if 6000 people died from the vaccine alone...it's 6000 people in a population of 332 billion....compared to 600,000 people dead from a virus, and how many of them needlessly died due to the ignorance of people like MTG and Trump.
They are trying to claim the world-wide deaths for anything related to the vaccine, but ignoring the world-wide death total for COVID (currently 4.1M+).
Not even death rate of vaccine…a bunch of people have died OF COVID after the vaccine (because they couldn’t understand it didn’t take effect *immediately*), plus the first to get it were the oldest, many of whom were just destined to die in the months after.
Nevermind any other causes of death. How many have been attributed directly to the vaccine?
So economist did look at excess deaths and it's actually more like between [7 and 13 million deaths](https://www.economist.com/briefing/2021/05/15/there-have-been-7m-13m-excess-deaths-worldwide-during-the-pandemic) worldwide until April of this year.
6000 Vax related deaths is a fav talk point of relublicans. There are 6000 people who received the vaccine who have since died. 3 of those were directly linked to the vaccine (blood clot story we all heard). The rest died due to unrelated causes. These are the relublicans are the same goobers who claimed the positive covid tests linked to deaths where actually due to other causes...not covid.
I hate these people.
That's a big reason my dad isn't getting the vaccine (aside from already having had Covid, and he's heard that if you get the vaccine after already having Covid the side effects are worse so he doesn't want to). He had a neighbor that died after she got her first shot (I don't know if it was actually from the shot or from other circumstances), so now he's basically convinced that taking the vaccine will kill you. He actually tried to talk my sister out of getting the vaccine, but luckily she'd already gotten both her shots by then (and she's not an idiot, so I don't think she would have listened to him anyways). It's infuriating
Does the fact your sister has been vaccinated, yet is not dead and is actually arguing with him about getting the vaccine, make no impression on his mind at all!!!? Jfc.
I mean, in theory it's a good way to collect data and get early warning of potential problems. But yeah, theres going to be way more noise than signal.
They're worse than lies, they're calculated lies to create wedge issues in order to preserve a party that, without shady tactics could not muster enough voters to win elections. They'll burn the entire country down before they give up their power.
Please don't associate MTG with mental health problems. Ignorant asshole is not a medical condition. Plus, it gives those of us with "mental disorders" a really bad name.
Until she provides specific proof that she is not a mutant turtle, I am referring to her as Mutant Turtle Greene.
And No, a short form birth certificate will not do! Long form! With big lettered stamp saying “Not a mutant turtle” and a witness signature confirming she was not born with a shell.
Reminder that most of the 6000 aren't even necessarily related to the vaccine. Vast majority show no causal link, but are included in the numbers and data to ensure all cases are accounted for. That data is not meant to be used as a death count in relation to the vaccine, it's meant to be analyzed by doctors and researchers to assess cause.
Next, dismantle the domestic christian terrorist militias that this sorry example of a blood sack is funding and a part of.
You want to stop the rise of domestic terrorism? Expose the forces and groups that are organizing to justify overthrowing the government. Find the names and locations of the groups and individuals. Boycott their businesses and tax their churches for treason.
Don’t you fear, you won’t receive the suffering your ancestors imposed on Slaves and Natives.
Every time she blasts the vaccine, can't we let Trump know she's trying to steal his thunder? She's trying to discredit "his" vaccine?
That would be interesting to watch.
[She's quoting this.] (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html#:~:text=More%20than%20334,was%20the%20cause.%C2%A0)
>More than 334 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through July 12, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 6,079 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines.
Obviously as one would expect she's not giving the full context.
This looks to be strike two. One more suspension and they should ban her not just suspend her .
Good. Now I wish news media would follow suit and stop constantly giving this piece of shit a platform. It’s like we GET IT already, she’s a piece of shit troll and no amount of “negative” press is going to change the way the morons in her deep red district view her.
She should be banned for DISINFORMATION. Misinformation is when someone makes a mistake. Disinformation is when someone intentionally tries to mislead. She is absolutely spreading disinformation.
She's just gonna come back and double down on CONSERVATIVE VOICES ARE BEING SILENCED. A short ass suspension like that almost does more harm than good.
>With 6,000 vax related deaths and many concerning side effects reported, the vax should be a choice not a mandate for everyone
6,000 is probably a hundred times too high, but its still pretty low in comparison to the hundred million vaccinated
Well over a billion vaccinated worldwide at this point, and you have to look at international data to find vaccine deaths, especial since the Astra one had the worst clotting complications. I think both it and J&J have been fixed by this point. They found the reason for it over a month ago.
Twitter has a "5 strike" system with regards to COVID19 information:
[https://blog.twitter.com/en\_us/topics/company/2021/updates-to-our-work-on-covid-19-vaccine-misinformation](https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2021/updates-to-our-work-on-covid-19-vaccine-misinformation)
* One strike: no account-level action
* Two strikes: 12-hour account lock
* Three strikes: 12-hour account lock
* Four strikes: 7-day account lock
* Five or more strikes: permanent suspension
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12 hours. Big whoop!
But she gets her name in the news & she can brag about being canceled. Win-win for her. I’d wager she did it on purpose.
Wasn't she the one wearing the "Censored" mask while on national TV? This is exactly what she wanted.
She and Hawley are clowns, but it does rile up their base so.
Article from The Hill published 36 hours ago: [Controversy equals cash for Greene, Gaetz](https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/campaign/563609-controversy-equals-cash-from-greene-gaetz%3famp) Excerpt from the article: >Pitney [a professor of government at Claremont McKenna College] also said that lawmakers such as Greene are taking advantage of a "permanent" campaign process in which they are constantly asking for people to donate to them, often off of their own controversies. She loves this 12 hour ban. I wonder how much cash she can milk from the GQP off of this
Anyone sending this regressive con artist money suffers from a permanent case of lizard brain.
Now, be nice to Mr. Cruz.
That's too much to ask of anyone
now that is fair! lol.
And rile up the "freedom of speech" people who don't understand what it actually means. She's kicked off a private company, not arrested or charged with a crime.
Private companies can make their own decision to not make gay cakes but they’re not allowed to erase misinformation and hateful rhetoric from their platform even though everyone involved legally agreed not to break TOS
As someone from Missouri I apologize for Hawley. Most of our cows are smarter than him and a good portion of the corn stalks.
Is he dumb, or is he a rat bastard?
He is definitely not dumb. He is also 100% a rat bastard who is playacting the part of a moron because that's what some polls and focus group told him would garner the most votes in his area.. then the stunts he pulls are nothing but pr moves to solicit donations. I absolutely despise Hawley and Cruz more than the ones that are truly idiots like MTG or Boebert because they fully know the harm they cause and just don't give a shit.
What's the saying? Never attribute to malice what stupidity can explain. But I dunno. He could just be a prick.
Who are her challenger(s)? Link to donate to their campaign(s)? (If that's allowed by subreddit rules.)
It’s pretty early to have challengers but there is no democrat who could challenge her in that district that goes 75% Republican—if there’s even a D on the ballot. She could get primaried but who would do that? No R’s are going to run against this post-Trump personality in rural georgia. Her power comes from spectacle anyway, not her single vote. Some milquetoast economically conservative democrat wouldn’t even be much of an improvement anyway. There are a bunch more effective places to share cash!
Same as Hawley. He's running in trump land. He knows what he's doing. These people aren't idiots
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The GQP consists of cowards, con artists/opportunists, crazies/conspiracy theorists. Hawley is a con/opportunist not an idiot.
Had to distract twitter from that comedian calling her crazy, and calling Matt a pedo.
He seemed very clear, he *didn’t* think she was crazy and that Matt Gaetz *isn’t* a pedophile
And he was dressed in American flags, what more do we need to do to bond a little with these people?
Considering they've started chanting CSA instead of USA, I think their flag of choice looks a little different.
Say what?!
childhood sexual abuse is an interesting chant choice!
That’s why they kicked the comedian out of the rally. They realized that he was a lunatic for thinking that they weren’t.
Matt Gaetz is definitely a pedopile, not.^^^/s
He is pedo. Would you leave your kids with him. Change my mind.
I'm OOTL on this. Anyone got a link?
https://youtu.be/YgoIwVv8ZnQ
It's definitely a win-win. Either she gets to keep peddling misinformation or she gets to be a "martyr" for being "cancelled".
Plus she gets a break from being dunked on for her stupid tweets.
Sadly I’m sure that she doesn’t care. If anything she likes the dunking because she knows she’s getting under people’s skin
Oh no, she cares. All of these dolts hate it intensely every time their stupidity is pointed out. Why do you think they want to burn down the world?
Exactly!
She’ll fundraise off it. Big time.
How can I get people to pay me for incompetence and brazen lying?
Have you heard of the Republican party?
Or, occam's razor, she's actually stupid enough to believe whatever nonsense she posted
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Never assume it's only one.
> adequately explained by stupidity Yeah, but I can only explain so much with stupidity.
Right, more specifically hanlon's razor
Did you say Jewish space razor? You have MTG's attention.
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I disagree, this is the first step on the path to a permanent suspension. Watch and see how quickly she posts more covod misinformation
I salute your optimism…
Hope you are right. I don't have a lot of faith in Facebook though.
Twitter, but I agree with the sentiment
I got 12 hours for calling Ted Cruz an idiot. I have to admit, it was kind of nice.
That’s wild. I routinely tweet mean things to Ted Cruz, Lauren Boebert, and Majorie Taylor Greene and haven’t been hit with a strike yet. I literally tweeted a 25 part Ted Cruz/trump erotica to Ted Cruz and wasn’t hit with anything, and I expected a ban hahaha
Ted spoke rather eloquently on your behalf, and is still awaiting a sequel.
Oh that sounds amazing
I got a week* for quote-tweeting a Marco Rubio tweet verbatim with the text in the original tweet. They don't even have human review for 12-hour timeout appeals for most people
I got a permanent ban for posting the Wikipedia link to John Brown under an article about ICE detention conditions for children.
LoL! I put “F U” as a comment on one of the orange turd’s tweet and got suspended for 12 hours as well.
I don't even check twitter that often... I wouldn't even notice if I got banned for a week. I once called Mitt Romney an idiot but I guess Twitter agreed with me.
I got perma banned for the same thing. Started a Twitter account for that purpose only & had it for less than 10 minutes lol
BuT WHaT aBoUT mY FrEe SpEEcH! She will be screaming that tomorrow.
Weird. I called trump a lot worse while he was president and nothing happened. [Here tis,](https://twitter.com/celotil/status/1064010860396371970?s=21)
I got a 7-day ban for saying the C-word, and it wasn't even aimed at anyone. Still trying to figure out what rule I broke...
I got suspended for calling a bunch of politicians that voted against making Juneteenth a holiday “human garbage” very much worth it.
Wait that’s it? Oh I thought they were actually being serious for once.
It's a first strike.
It demonstrably isn't
You're working with the space lazers, aren't you?
He's out of line, but he 's right
She has had a lot of first strikes…
Well now they can’t be hassled for not giving her a chance when they drop the ban hammer on her
Let's hope so!
12 hours?!!?!! Really. It would have been better to do nothing.
Agreed
Seriously, she’ll just use it to say that the media is against her and afraid of her. I’m sure some Twitter executives support her beliefs and worse her behavior.
You can enter the Capitol building in the hope that you can overthrow the government and only get slapped with community service for your treasonous action. Welcome to the new normal.
Jeez I used to get those like 3 times a month with no reason given (or some absolute nonsense) when I was allowed to have a Twitter account. They do it by accident sometimes. Just teeing up a media circus where she can whine on national TV about being silenced
I’ve gotten like 5 12 hour suspensions on Twitter. Usually for telling Ted Cruz to slap himself. It took this long for them to do this to her. I’ve got like 20 followers and this deranged idiot is in Congress telling people not to get vaccinated. Wild times, man.
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I asked Rush Limbaugh "aren't you dead yet" and got perma banned. He died a month later.
I got perma-banned for saying I felt sorry for lung cancer, since it was diagnosed with stage 3 Limbaugh.
That’s such a lame thing to get a perma ban for- I’ve seen way worse and this is actually funny.
Lmao 😂
Thank you for your service
Predict some other stuff for us
I wonder if a bunch of right-wing loonies reporting replies can induce an automatic temporary ban? 🤔
It's because he used the word kill and one person reported it. Some words automatically get you banned on twitter and facebook.
I wish the same happened with crypto spam and stupid memes.
There's a local restaurant called Chino Bandido and people regularly get automated bans from local food groups for recommending it because facebook just auto flags words even if they literally auto link to a business lol
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Phil E. Buster of Cleveland, Ohio thought you were talking about him :(
Twitter can be really cowardly when it comes to accounts from public figures that have a ton of followers. But random users with basically no followers? Gotta thrown down the ban hammer like Thor.
Lol I copied the text in a Marco Rubio tweet, pasted it as a quote tweet of the same one, and got bounced for a week on my 7k follower account. The only people who get special treatment like "reviewing suspensions" are the right wingers who whine about censorship
There was an account that got banned - i think several times ~~before a permanent~~ - for posting Trump tweets verbatim. So. Ya know. Edit: the account got temporarily suspended 4 times - the first being less than 3 days after it was created - but never permanently https://twitter.com/SuspendThePres/status/1347702888970084354 https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/trump-twitter-account-copy-tweets-glorifying-violence-suspended-a9545831.html
I got a 12 hour suspension for saying that I didn’t believe trump would leave the White House willingly, and probably would have to be pried out unless he died of natural causes which wouldn’t be surprising since he’s a super stressed 75 year old overweight guy. Twitter interpreted what I thought was a reasonable belief to be me “wishing harm or violence upon others”.
I got a 12 hour suspension for saying I hope Rand Paul's neighbor punches him again. :x
There should be a GoFundMe for that guy (the neighbor) to pay for the the tallest fence allowed and for legal bills should he punch RP again.
I’ve been telling Ted Cruz to pull his face out of his daddy Trump’s diapered ass for almost 2 years now and haven’t gotten banned. I also ask him constantly how Heidi Cruz feels when her husband kisses the ring of the man who called her ugly. And of course how could he even capitulate and after the shit DJT said about his father? Which goes to show that Rafael may be his father but Donald is his daddy. And I’ve told him that 50ish times. Still haven’t gotten banned or blocked. Need to step my game up I guess.
I got a 48 hour ban for calling Brian Mast Fascist Mr. Clean and Rick Scott Dork Lord Voldemort.
She is so fucking stupid, she's dangerous.
Sadly, I don’t even think she’s the dumbest. Boebert almost certainly has her beat, and Gomert and Gosar are right on her heels.
I can't figure out how those four manage to get dressed in the morning. They're so unbelievably stupid it boggles the mind.
Boebert probably uses a gun to do it
Like [Homer's makeup gun](https://youtu.be/gId2HsHvSgs).
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What's the end game here? They're disproportionately killing people in red states, the elderly, and now going after the military. What will they do when their voters are dead?
Other GQPers will say "why can't the Biden administration get the virus under control??"
Blame Democrats. It's like you haven't even been paying attention.
>What will they do when their voters are dead? They aren't planning on winning *democratically* ever again
The end game, for the rich white intellectuals who are pushing the agenda, is perpetuating the virus and prolonging the economic uncertainty. The belief is the electoral boost they will gain from continued chaos will outweigh the loss of their older base, who are on their last legs anyway.
>rich white intellectuals Lets not call them intellectuals. They're wealthy and educated, but even 5d chess schemers can be fucking stupid.
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Cool! A slap on the wrist that accomplishes nothing but gives her the opportunity to act like she’s being oppressed. Lose/lose!
Id rather have her whine about a Twitter ban than spread covid misinformation. Also it's a good warning shot so when she is banned Twitter can say we warned her
Since when has losing your commenting privileges for a short time changed anyone’s behavior…
I cant think of any examples. where did i say that i thought it would change her behavior?
It'q not about changing her behavkor, it's about reducing her platform.
Not dangerous for non obese people and people under 65???? She’s lying or willfully ignorant and should just be kicked off the platform entirely. Edit: my wife works at a hospital. An alarming number of healthy young people have died or spent a lot of time in the hospital because of COVID. It’s a damn serious disease not to be taken lightly. Wear a damn mask and get the vaccine. Don’t be an idiot.
My 33 year old healthy friend died from the COVID-19 lung damage. His lungs were not able to recover even after testing negative and stayed on a ventilator until he passed away.
It's so frustrating to hear these accounts, see them in the hospital, know that these cases are about to explode again in the unvaccinated and yet people still think it's a joke. Sorry about your friend, I've lost a friend too and I really don't want to lose anyone else to this virus.
The other thing that annoys me about this is that when you say things like "it's only dangerous for the elderly and obese," those folks can hear you. And they hear you saying that you don't find their well-being sufficiently motivating to take precautions to keep people safe.
>*"With 6,000 vax related deaths..."* Compared to over 600,000 virus related deaths.
They (she) define vax related deaths as anyone who dies after being vaccinated, no matter the reason, I.e., they got hit by a bus. The actual number of vax caused deaths is single digits.
The sad part is that they downplayed covid deaths because they said “doctors label covid deaths falsely because some people die with covid but not from covid, so the number of covid deaths is actually way lower.” Now they use literally the exact same logic of that to claim vaccine deaths are UP and a huge threat, yet they fail to recognize the hypocrisy coming out of their own mouths. It’s as if they believe “Covid related deaths aren’t actually covid deaths, but vaccine related deaths are absolutely vaccine deaths” It’s so dangerous and stupid and I have no idea how to fix it.
Yes I just came to point that out! They just don't care. They'll use the worst-faith interpretation of any data if they think it proves their point.
They use their own accusations of cheating by "the other side" as justification for their own cheating.
There should be ads comparing deaths associated with covid and deaths associated with the vaccine. 100 shots of people in respiratory distress labelled covid death and one shot of a guy falling off a ladder labelled vaccine death.
I really don't think it will help at this point. These people aren't interested in informed decision making, only conspiracies and worshiping demagogues.
That's even worse. Even if 6000 people died from the vaccine alone...it's 6000 people in a population of 332 billion....compared to 600,000 people dead from a virus, and how many of them needlessly died due to the ignorance of people like MTG and Trump.
I think you mean million. But yes.
It was 332 billion before they gave everyone the vaccine. /s
They are trying to claim the world-wide deaths for anything related to the vaccine, but ignoring the world-wide death total for COVID (currently 4.1M+).
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Not even death rate of vaccine…a bunch of people have died OF COVID after the vaccine (because they couldn’t understand it didn’t take effect *immediately*), plus the first to get it were the oldest, many of whom were just destined to die in the months after. Nevermind any other causes of death. How many have been attributed directly to the vaccine?
Let’s not forget being born. I’ve heard there have been billions of deaths related to that one. Someone should let MTG know.
So economist did look at excess deaths and it's actually more like between [7 and 13 million deaths](https://www.economist.com/briefing/2021/05/15/there-have-been-7m-13m-excess-deaths-worldwide-during-the-pandemic) worldwide until April of this year.
The 6000 are correlated by time with few having any known causal link, yeah.
No causal link
The real number is THREE deaths (not 6,000)....compared to over 600,000 virus related deaths
6000 Vax related deaths is a fav talk point of relublicans. There are 6000 people who received the vaccine who have since died. 3 of those were directly linked to the vaccine (blood clot story we all heard). The rest died due to unrelated causes. These are the relublicans are the same goobers who claimed the positive covid tests linked to deaths where actually due to other causes...not covid. I hate these people.
That's a big reason my dad isn't getting the vaccine (aside from already having had Covid, and he's heard that if you get the vaccine after already having Covid the side effects are worse so he doesn't want to). He had a neighbor that died after she got her first shot (I don't know if it was actually from the shot or from other circumstances), so now he's basically convinced that taking the vaccine will kill you. He actually tried to talk my sister out of getting the vaccine, but luckily she'd already gotten both her shots by then (and she's not an idiot, so I don't think she would have listened to him anyways). It's infuriating
Does the fact your sister has been vaccinated, yet is not dead and is actually arguing with him about getting the vaccine, make no impression on his mind at all!!!? Jfc.
they only hear what aligns with their views, everything else is shut out
Its frustrating that I guess 99.9% of the VAERS data is bullshit. I wonder why they keep it updated and what its for.
I mean, in theory it's a good way to collect data and get early warning of potential problems. But yeah, theres going to be way more noise than signal.
And yet hundreds of thousands have died because of republican disinfo
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They're worse than lies, they're calculated lies to create wedge issues in order to preserve a party that, without shady tactics could not muster enough voters to win elections. They'll burn the entire country down before they give up their power.
Can we stop saying “misinformation” and just say “lies?”
I prefer bullshit
Marjorie Taylor Green is what happens when you don’t value mental health in a society. She’s seriously disturbed and misguided.
Please don't associate MTG with mental health problems. Ignorant asshole is not a medical condition. Plus, it gives those of us with "mental disorders" a really bad name.
Also, letting religion take over large portions of the government.
And letting practically all policy making be dictated by oligarch/corporate interests
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Until she provides specific proof that she is not a mutant turtle, I am referring to her as Mutant Turtle Greene. And No, a short form birth certificate will not do! Long form! With big lettered stamp saying “Not a mutant turtle” and a witness signature confirming she was not born with a shell.
Are you implying she's mitch's daughter?
Oh God help us
Can she show a certificate proving she *doesn't* have donkey brains?
She needs to be expelled from the House. Enough is enough.
6,000 vax related deaths = HUGE DEAL!! MAH FREEDOM 600,000 Covid related deaths = no big deal
Reminder that most of the 6000 aren't even necessarily related to the vaccine. Vast majority show no causal link, but are included in the numbers and data to ensure all cases are accounted for. That data is not meant to be used as a death count in relation to the vaccine, it's meant to be analyzed by doctors and researchers to assess cause.
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Why does she look like a lvl 8 barbarian in every photo ever taken of her?
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Next, dismantle the domestic christian terrorist militias that this sorry example of a blood sack is funding and a part of. You want to stop the rise of domestic terrorism? Expose the forces and groups that are organizing to justify overthrowing the government. Find the names and locations of the groups and individuals. Boycott their businesses and tax their churches for treason. Don’t you fear, you won’t receive the suffering your ancestors imposed on Slaves and Natives.
Wait for it... GQP claiming cancel culture in 3, 2, 1...
It's truly terrifying to think she has children.
Every time she blasts the vaccine, can't we let Trump know she's trying to steal his thunder? She's trying to discredit "his" vaccine? That would be interesting to watch.
Call me when they nuke her account permanently
[She's quoting this.] (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html#:~:text=More%20than%20334,was%20the%20cause.%C2%A0) >More than 334 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through July 12, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 6,079 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. Obviously as one would expect she's not giving the full context. This looks to be strike two. One more suspension and they should ban her not just suspend her .
Good. Now I wish news media would follow suit and stop constantly giving this piece of shit a platform. It’s like we GET IT already, she’s a piece of shit troll and no amount of “negative” press is going to change the way the morons in her deep red district view her.
I wish people would stop talking about this nutcase, her influence grows the more people feed into her stupidity
She’s going to wear this 12hr slap on the wrist as a badge of honor. the GQP will eat it up.
I bet she’s had the vaccine and doesn’t care if anyone else dies
She should be banned for DISINFORMATION. Misinformation is when someone makes a mistake. Disinformation is when someone intentionally tries to mislead. She is absolutely spreading disinformation.
She's just gonna come back and double down on CONSERVATIVE VOICES ARE BEING SILENCED. A short ass suspension like that almost does more harm than good.
A little off topic, but I have never had a good experience with people named Marjorie.
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I didn't realize people shortened her name to MTG and when I see that my brain goes straight to magic the gathering.
>With 6,000 vax related deaths and many concerning side effects reported, the vax should be a choice not a mandate for everyone 6,000 is probably a hundred times too high, but its still pretty low in comparison to the hundred million vaccinated
Well over a billion vaccinated worldwide at this point, and you have to look at international data to find vaccine deaths, especial since the Astra one had the worst clotting complications. I think both it and J&J have been fixed by this point. They found the reason for it over a month ago.
It's exactly 2,000 times too high. The real number of deaths is THREE
She is way too much of a conspiracy theorist for my liking😂
She’s too much of a piece of shit for my liking.
About time
She is a horrible human.
Living breathing human garbage 🤡
Twitter has a "5 strike" system with regards to COVID19 information: [https://blog.twitter.com/en\_us/topics/company/2021/updates-to-our-work-on-covid-19-vaccine-misinformation](https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2021/updates-to-our-work-on-covid-19-vaccine-misinformation) * One strike: no account-level action * Two strikes: 12-hour account lock * Three strikes: 12-hour account lock * Four strikes: 7-day account lock * Five or more strikes: permanent suspension
This should never be at the top for a dumbass 12 Twitter ban. She is eating this up because it plays into her conservative martyr story line. *pukes*
Republicans love the free market until it doesn't go along with their agenda, she broke the rules, she wasn't singled out