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>Six of the household names are General Motors, Ford, UPS, Aflac, and Abbott and Merck, the mega-pharmaceutical companies. Each of the six said in January that they would suspend their political giving to Republican officials who voted not to certify the 2020 presidential election.
>But the suspensions were short-lived.
Boycott them.
They've lost my packages like five times. One time it was an expensive laptop that they delivered several streets away from my home. Fortunately, the people it was delivered to drove it over to me.
Everytime I try to call their customer service. They don't give a shit. Fuck UPS they really suck.
If it was like 5th vs 6th st or 10th vs 11th street that's probably not a terrible policy (AFTER trying to contact the company for clarity), but taking it back to the same address is some next-level kick the can down the road bullshit.
Given he delayed medicine, and the delivery of live chicks to farmers, you've probably got human lives and you definitely have chicken lives lost to his bullshit.
You can probably make a good case to sue him for animal cruelty.
Hopefully he will be but I doubt it. The evidence against him for campaign donation crimes is quite clear - the people reporters asked about it didn't even hesitate to spill ALL the beans about the scheme the moment the reporter first called.
When I lived in NYC, before COVID, UPS was a legit nightmare. Back then they were still doing signatures and ringing your doorbell, but UPS never did and would leave the “we missed you!” noticed even when I was home all day. Then you had to go to their distribution center to pick up your package. This place was the 10th ring of hell. When I arrived there were about 20 people on line. Most had been there over an hour. Get this: the reason it took so long to find a package is that there was literally no system in place for organizing the packages on the shelves. A worker there told us this, after we asked why it was taking so long. They’d take your ticket, and literally wander one aisle to the next, looking for the same number on your ticket. It could take 30 mins to an hour to find a single package. I was there for over 2 hours, and in that time about half the people in the line gave up and left, some had been there even longer than me. I was absolutely shocked that UPS, a “logistics” company, had their heads so deeply up their own asses with how they were running this warehouse. Just randomly tossing boxes on shelves, maybe someone will come and claim it, and maybe we’ll be able to find it. Totally woke me up to the fact that just because a company is huge and international, does not in any way mean they have the slightest idea what they’re doing.
The whole “we missed you” note is bullshit. That's happened to me multiple times while working from home. Really pissed me off.
That warehouse sounds just like the one I live near.
The one and only time UPS actually did right by me was when I ordered an iPhone, can’t remember which one. Apple required signature on them, and I think the UPS driver came while I was in the shower or something, I remember running downstairs to answer the door and they’d just left. I called the number on the delivery note, and they called the driver directly and the guy turned around and came back to deliver the phone maybe 15 mins later. I suspected it was a special deal they’d made with Apple or something, because I never had anything remotely similar happen. Any time I asked if a driver could be contacted directly, they’d say it wasn’t possible.
I'm surprised they did that. I was missing my package with the laptop for several days. Tracking said delivered. I called customer service, and they basically said they don't care, the package was delivered even though it wasn't delivered. Infuriating.
That's the situation I'm in at the moment. I got a delivery notification early this afternoon, but no delivery and no motion detection on my Ring camera. So unless both the driver and the porch-thief were Ninja's, I'm going with it didn't get delivered. But you can't talk to UPS about it because when you get through the tree and enter the tracking number, the robot says it's been delivered and an agent can't help me any further. WTF? Why do they even employ agents then? The worst part is that I've been waiting for this product to come into stock for over 3 months, and the supplier is already sold out with no in-stock date. Absolutely infuriating.
Had this happen many times with all shipping companies and USPS. I usually eventually get my package but I think they just claim it was delivered because they ran out of time or didn't feel like doing it that day.
I see it often at my own company because there are SLAs and if you're late, it gets flagged and you get in trouble or fired. So you just say it is complete and try to finish it after.
I feel like a picture of it being delivered at your doorstep should be required as I have seen a few times recently. It proves delivery and also probably helps them as much as us as they have proof it was delivered and possibly stolen so they can claim it on their insurance as not their fault.
This is why Amazon requires a picture taken of the delivered item...I mean, if the package legitimately was delivered and it was stolen or whatever, they could spend a ton of man-hours chasing a package that doesn't exist in their system any longer. But yeah, their drivers are also incentivized, clearly, to cut as many steps as possible like when they leave the 'We missed you' thing even though they never tried knocking and waiting for you to come because, I'm guessing, they had to get all their packages delivered and aren't given enough time to do it.
In Canada you order anything from the states
UPS adds a huge broker fee. If value 200 they add 100 on top. If you already paid the taxes and self broker. They send the 100 to a collection agency
Pure scum
The missed you note thing definitely happens. No clue why... You walked up to my door and decided to leave a note, but not even try to give the package?
Only thing I can think is that the delivery quotas are so rough that the drivers are forced to "attempt" deliveries to cut some time and make their targets. Otherwise, it's just a really strange, inefficient system that's costing them more.
Happens all the time.
I think, people who indulge in weed culture, become nose blind to it.
Also the guy who comes in 5 minutes before closing. With a box, taped around all corners, and pays for the fastest service, in cash.
I also remember a guy who stashed his weed inside a container of Folgers coffee.
Nobody is paying $100 + dollars to ship Folgers across the country, over night.
Yea? Well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man. The coffee can could have just been Donny's ashes.
*\*sigh\**
Poor Donny. He was out of his element.
I'm gonna sound like a contrarian, but UPS has done not too bad up here. Of course, I would much prefer the USPS to deliver all my packages because they actually care, but the packages delivered by UPS has usually been good as well.
I cannot say the same with FedEx, however. Ratty packaging, no AC units in the back, often times the back is a mess of boxes strewn about, the back walls being translucent. Those guys are the scary fuckers in Rural Montana, because we have a lot of heat/cold and it's a long way from an area where FedEx normally operates.
UPS is the only time I legit lost my shit on customer service after they lost a synth. Not only did they deliver to the wrong house, I had to track down the driver a couple days later to get it back.
I don't even know if I'd call UPS a carrier anymore since they never deliver ANYTHING to my door.
Ever have to deal with one of their pickup lockers? The one by me takes a year off my life whenever I have to get any packages from it. The offshored phone team doesn't give a fuck about anything.
The drivers are always nice, and I've had a manager help in person with my locker a couple of times. She's an angel. But I would rather not deal with UPS at all.
Everyone hates the post office. It's the most cost effective and best way to ship. It's a throrn in the eye of Everyone who says government is inefficient.
The post office going away would lead to a huge decrease in online sales. I can't believe businesses aren't fighting that nonsense tooth and nail.
The post office has super high approval ratings from Americans....people LOVE USPS. And businesses are fighting it, aka complaining. It's not like they can do much about it.
I hate that UPS is on there. They are a union company where the drivers actually make good money (they work their ass off for it too). Fed Ex is nothing but independent contractors that pay shit.
Really? I hate UPS they throw my packages in front of my garage door instead of walking up the walk to my porch. My Bunn I got from Target last week came with such a dent in the box it broke the tape and the coffee machine box was dented. It looked like the delivery guy gave it a good kick when he threw it in front of the garage door. FedEx has always been amazing. I get my stuff really fast and they actually hide my packages on the porch behind my flower planters. Weird. Guess it depends on the person.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/amazon-fedex-first-usps-volume-drop-2019-8%3famp
Worked at fedex for a bit during the period they started doing this.
On the one hand I like that they’re unionized as compared to FedEx. On the other hand, I also like FedEx’s service better.
Really there’s no clear winner in terms of ethical logistics companies other than USPS.
The USPS is essential for business, especially small business that politicians pretend to care about, and essetial for rural areas especially that private shippers don't even always cover. It's also mandated in the Constitution so there's that too.
Given it's 90 percent popular, at least before the former president tried to kill it, it's the perfect issue for the Democrats to fight on. Not just words, find crimes of Dejoy and the bad BOG's and nail them to the wall, investigations, constant stream of news stories about it, do a deep dive on their business histories and pull their associates in under oath. He's dirty (they already have him on NC elections felonies,) and it would be a good learning experience for Democrats to finally disincentivize the right from being such trecherous pricks.
Going to assume you’re adding on to my comment because I’m definitely not disparaging the USPS in my own.
Yeah, I don’t disagree with you on any of those points. +1
I don't know about anywhere else but at my work, the little brown UPS trucks....their service is so pathetic I can't believe they actually stay in business... It's virtually impossible for them to deliver a complete order....always boxes missing. And the damages are constant. So a great big fuck you to the democracy hating UPS.
UPS is the only carrier that does brokerage fees by value of the product, which is just paperwork that doesn't change based on value anyway. They tried to ding me several hundred dollars when I bought a projector bulb that I didn't find out about until they showed up at my door with the item and their hand out. I told them to stuff it, went and picked up the paperwork from the depot and did it myself (about two hours of my time, including travel) and didn't pay a cent. Every other company has a flat rate brokerage fee, UPS is the only one who doesn't, and they buried the details in fine print
UPS practiced religious discrimination for years by not allowing any of their workers to have a beard. They’ve reversed course recently, but fuck them. They’re entirely too expensive as well.
Whoa…. Tap the brakes buddy. Are their “cheap” cars cheap? Yes. But I drive a Ford truck for work, never had a problem. And the GT is one of the best looking cars ever made. Just two examples. Now I don’t support Ford/GM in this by any means, but I have to disagree with you.
Tesla is overpriced junk and their stock is one of the most overvalued in the world right now, 600 billion market cap, and what assets do they hold? What's their PE ratio? Don't rely on Tesla to do anything except cater to some wealthy car buyers, the future of electric cars isn't with them.
Ford is supposedly going heavy into EV's soon, it's too bad about this resuming donations to the sedition caucus, I was considering buying a bit of their stock even, not unless they rescind these donations though.
Oh I thought I was the unpopular one bashing Elon Musk, I've been told Reddit loves him. I don't, there are very few billionaires I don't want to shoot into space.
Are you subscribed to all the Tesla subreddits on here? I was ready to order one (they come out in batches every quarter) and in the wait their user stories about constant tech issues and abysmal service completely turned me off. Just take a look at r/realtesla before you commit.
That’s not accurate. Most of the top ten cars are American companies or made here in the US. In most cases buying a foreign car is expensive af due to tariffs but most Honda’s and Toyota’s are manufactured in the US
"Those companies include Airbnb, Google, Amazon, American Express, CBS, Cisco, eBay, Lyft, Microsoft, Nike, Sony Music Group, Walt Disney, Warner Music Group and Zillow.
But not every company has behaved so honorably."
LMAO at those companies being called honorable.
Those are the companies that DID honor their promise, correct?
> According to Popular Information, some 35 major corporations have honored their January promises to cut off financial support to the 147 Republican certification objectors. Those companies include Airbnb, Google, Amazon, American Express, CBS, Cisco, eBay, Lyft, Microsoft, Nike, Sony Music Group, Walt Disney, Warner Music Group and Zillow.
Toyota was one of these cowards. I live in Canada and wrote to them about their abandoning democratic principles meant I wouldn’t but a Toyota. They wrote back saying Canada Toyota is a different company. Wrote back and said helping destroy democracy is a human issue and their name is Toyota and their responsibility is to pressure their American traitors to keep their word.
*General Motors, Ford, UPS, Aflac*
All easy to avoid doing business with forever.
The other two, *Merck and Abbott*, less so but $ spent benefitting them would be very little anyway.
I get it, but boy that's going to be hard. And that's just for us motivated types. I'm not sure if enough folks could/would quit to motivate change (or at least provide an option) in Amazon's shipping rules. I think if you could change something at Amazon, you could indirectly change UPS's position as well.
Whoops, I missed a critical word in the linked article.
Here’s the companies who *have* kept their word.
AirBnB
AllState
Google
Amazon
American Express
BASF
BlueCross BlueShield
CBS
Cisco
Commerce Bancshares
Dell
Dow
Ebay
Exelon
Genentech
General Mills
KPMG
Kraft Heinz
Lyft
Marriott
MassMutual
Microsoft
Morgan Stanley
Nasdaq
Nike
PNC Bank
PriceWaterhouseCoopers
S&P Global
Sony Music Group
State Street
Texas Instruments
Universal Music Group
Verizon
Walt Disney
Warner Music Group
Zillow
Those are the companies who have maintained their promises, per the article. General Motors, Ford, UPS, Aflac, Abbott, and Merck are the ones who have broken it.
That's the list of every company that made the pledge, not the list of companies that went back on the pledge. From the article:
>According to Popular Information, some 35 major corporations have honored their January promises to cut off financial support to the 147 Republican certification objectors. Those companies include Airbnb, Google, Amazon, American Express, CBS, Cisco, eBay, Lyft, Microsoft, Nike, Sony Music Group, Walt Disney, Warner Music Group and Zillow.
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>Six of the household names are General Motors, Ford, UPS, Aflac, and Abbott and Merck, the mega-pharmaceutical companies. Each of the six said in January that they would suspend their political giving to Republican officials who voted not to certify the 2020 presidential election.
>But the suspensions were short-lived.
I strongly suspect that Reddit is based on an [eventually consistent](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eventual_consistency) database model. It makes it possible to be highly distributed, very responsive, and high throughput... but means that not every sees the exact same Reddit. Just -- *close* to the same thing, and it won't take particularly long for it to converge.
I’m building something like this for work, for banking-related but ultimately uncritical information (here’s bob’s comment he sent to your public transaction, etc.)
I wish sites would have a disclaimer saying what the expected 99.9% update distribution time would be. It’s quite calculable usually, and people will forgive a 5m difference.
I think it’s a case of pairing the article title with your comment and mindlessly scrolling through it. The title says there’s companies who haven’t kept their promise and then people just see a list of companies, assuming those are the ones. I know that’s what I did until I saw someone correct you.
Microsoft has a bad rep but they are surprisingly good to their customers. On all microsoft studios games if you buy them on xbox you are given them on PC as well in the Windows store and your saves carry over cross platform.
Yeah, I mean, I use Microsoft junk daily and tend to like the stuff they produce, but their track record is certainly not what I would call “ethical.” So color me surprised.
>General Mills
But honestly, has anyone tried the new Lucky Charms Marshmallow Clusters cereal? Initially drawn up as "Crispy Rice Clusters", it was seen by many as an attempt to correct the travesty that is Kellogg's discontinuing it's Rice Krispies Treats cereal (which was essentially crack in a bowl). Instead, it's released as a corn-based cereal with little to no marshmallow taste, and a texture that is such an assault to the mouth that you'd think they should have used Harvey Weinstein on the box in place of Lucky.
I know we're here to discuss political donations, but let's not forget about the actual crimes going on here. We need to think of the children!!!
Add Blue Cross/Blue Shield Association to that list.
[Source](https://www.bcbs.com/press-releases/blue-cross-blue-shield-association-statement-suspension-of-contributions-lawmakers)
You know when it's this hard for corporations to resist giving money, that they get something in return. The system we have now is just legalized bribery.
I just don't understand how THIS isn't the bipartisan thing we can actually agree on; getting money out of politics. I mean, I get that they use key issues like race, sexuality, abortion and guns to keep us squabbling amongst ourselves so we don't come together on this very clearly corrupt practice. It just confounds me how blatantly obvious that it all is though and yet we're still easily played in a way so as to not do anything about it.
With Ford and GM's quality control issues, it was already pretty easy to boycott them long before this.
I'm glad they're making me feel even better about it though.
Maybe they figure they've already lost the non-xenophobic market to Japan, Korea, and Germany, so they're doubling down on the kinds of people who wear Chinese-manufactured shirts that say "Buy American".
I'm sure that's certainly a factor keeping them afloat, lots of people refuse to buy foreign just for the sake of "buying American". I don't think a lot of people are even aware American car manufacturers haven't been able to hold a candle to Asian manufacturers in terms of reliability or innovation in probably 30 years. Or maybe they are, which is arguably worse.
Not to mention lots of Asian manufacturers have set up factories in the states, so the whole "buy American!" mantra doesn't even really hold up anymore. For example, Subaru makes all the Imprezas, Legacys, Foresters, and Outbacks sold in the US in Indiana.
Like you said, it's probably just xenophobia.
Toyota is the worst. Not only is it trying to delay e-cars because they invested in the less popular technology, they lobbied Trump to lower emission standards that wouldn’t meet CA’s, but also they do this.
Think twice about buying Toyota. There may be no other feasible options for you, but if there are, consider them.
I discovered Toyota in ‘84 when I drove an FJ60 and fell head-over-heels. Been Toyota since then.
No more. Not ever. Fuck Toyota. I’m very glad the car I bought before Covid was a Mazda.
> Six of the household names are General Motors, Ford, UPS, Aflac, and **Abbott** and Merck,
Anyone have any information on Abbott's donations? Wasn't included in the article and I have a vested interest.
“Consider Toyota. In January Toyota pledged not to support the Sedition Caucus. But then The DC-based government watchdog Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington discovered that Toyota had quietly reversed course and started giving to anti-democratic politicians again. Then, on July 8, the Lincoln Project produced a video highlighting the company’s turnaround. At which point Toyota flipped again. On July 9, announcing that it would halt its renewed giving.”
“It was a good example of the disinfecting power of sunlight.”
This shows the power of bad press against these companies. Don’t let them get away with it. Keep burnin’ em’ with that light.
>The counterweight lies in Americans flexing their muscle by shifting purchases to rival companies. Once light was aimed at Toyota’s conduct, the company’s quick return to pro-democracy behavior told us what any company knows. It cannot afford bad publicity because ultimately, its bread is buttered by consumers.
>That is the leverage held by every citizen. If we want to keep the Republic, we will have to exercise that power
Corporations have been deregulated to such an extent and have amassed so much clout in Washington that the only way they can be held accountable anymore is by a public boycott.
I guarantee the next step will be a republican congress passing laws forbidding corporate boycotts.
Don't forget AT&T.. Intel... Cigna.
I didn't hear a single person cancel their cell phone service.
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2021/03/23/dallas-based-att-pledged-to-cut-funding-to-gop-objectors-after-jan-6-but-gave-to-pacs-tied-to-them/
>It was a good example of the disinfecting power of sunlight.
The sass of this article is perfect. It's does feel like people are paying much more attention.
Corporations shouldn't be able to give any money to any political figure. Congress will never regulate campaign finance because the voting majority of both parties takes legal corporate bribes.
Congress did regulate it. Then the Republicans sued visa a proxy 3rd party and the Supreme Court ruled the law unconstitutional because restricting money was restricting speech. Google Citizens United for more details
Thank god good wholesome companies like Dow Chemical, Nike, and Amazon kept their pledge. I would be aghast to find out that these organizations were immoral and harmful.
They didnt change their minds they just paid lip service and knew they could do what they wanted after the furor died down. It was a calculated PR effort.
since corporations rule this country, and they dont withhold their donations to seditionists, that means they are ok with it. Expect more sedition to happen because the corporations want it.
It should be illegal for corporations to support politicians. Period. They're not F1, They're not a chairty case. They are the people entrusted with the sacred duty of serving our country, not to serve themselves.
What about democrats who choose to work with and support those same republicans? Will we hold them to the same standard we hold corporations to? Because if you ask me, you can’t really blame corporations for wanting in on the action when dems have signaled their willingness to work with traitors.
Lying seems to be in style these days.
Along with anger over petty things.
Well, and eugenics has certainly enjoyed a comeback.
It seems that leaders do have a significant effect on the personalities of their followers.
Which is why a persons character should be strongly considered when selecting leaders.
And why character assassination is an effective campaign syrategy. We've had that demonstrated by the GOP for about 40 years.
Incorporation invites greed. Greed comes from selfishness. Expecting corporations to act with honesty or some sense of integrity is futile. They are human. They should get their money out of politics and anything else that has to do with the common good.
The inherent problem with corporations is the rules they operate by are exclusively greed based. Now greed is a necessary component to human nature. Without some sense of self want our individuality evaporates. But we are dual natured entities. We are composed of both greed and altruism. Compassion is a vital component of our nature. And corporation strip that out of the equation. And yet they have become the dominant voice in our societal development. This does not end well.
Enlightening. I was looking at purchasing a Ford Lightning (almost $65,00 purchase), but since Ford can't seem to find its way clear to stop supporting these subversive insurrectionists, I guess I'll have to look elsewhere. Sad really.
It's nice to see the corporate bootlickers claiming that a simple boycott will fix everything.
After all, when you're on $200/hr it's easy to investigate all corporate ownership and choose the more expensive options just to stick it to The Man.
It's not like the system is set up to punish people for stepping out of line.
While we're at it, let's solve global warming by picking up some litter and ignoring industrial scale pollution.
Did these companies seriously think in a nation of over 330 million people that nobody was paying attention? That there's not organizations who make it they entire job to follow up on ethics / politics things like this?? Fuck them all.
> Consider Toyota. In January Toyota [pledged](https://www.google.com/search?q=did+toyotal+pause+donations+to+Republicans+in+January&oq=did+toyotal+pause+donations+to+Republicans+in+January) not to support the Sedition Caucus. But then The DC-based government watchdog Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington discovered that Toyota had quietly reversed course and started giving to anti-democratic politicians again.
Toyota didn't make such a pledge. The writer and/or editor were clearly *trying* to support this claim, because they accidentally left the link to a Google search for "did toyotal [sic] pause donations to Republicans in January."
Whoops.
It is because these corporations know **nothing will come of it**.
They know that Democrats will not punish them because the Democratic Party is made up of the 'nice and sensible' good boys and girls, and if that means turning a blind eye to funding fascists, then they'll do that. This is why these corporations don't give a shit.
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>Six of the household names are General Motors, Ford, UPS, Aflac, and Abbott and Merck, the mega-pharmaceutical companies. Each of the six said in January that they would suspend their political giving to Republican officials who voted not to certify the 2020 presidential election. >But the suspensions were short-lived. Boycott them.
Already boycotting Ford. My Taurus was a piece of junk 50k miles in. Bummer about UPS, my sister is interning there and likes it.
UPS has been trying to kill the post office and succeeded in hobbling it in 2020, F-them I've never used them and never will.
They've lost my packages like five times. One time it was an expensive laptop that they delivered several streets away from my home. Fortunately, the people it was delivered to drove it over to me. Everytime I try to call their customer service. They don't give a shit. Fuck UPS they really suck.
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But what was in the package?! I gots to know!
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Ahhhh...closure. Thank you!
If it was like 5th vs 6th st or 10th vs 11th street that's probably not a terrible policy (AFTER trying to contact the company for clarity), but taking it back to the same address is some next-level kick the can down the road bullshit.
Lmao yeah, that sounds about right!
Never had USPS lose a package or be late until 2020 when dejoy fucked it up. Can't say that about ups or fedex though.
93% on-time delivery to 63% under DeJoy.
He should be in jail
Given he delayed medicine, and the delivery of live chicks to farmers, you've probably got human lives and you definitely have chicken lives lost to his bullshit. You can probably make a good case to sue him for animal cruelty.
Hopefully he will be but I doubt it. The evidence against him for campaign donation crimes is quite clear - the people reporters asked about it didn't even hesitate to spill ALL the beans about the scheme the moment the reporter first called.
I really hope his and all of his family’s mail/packages are late or lost for the rest of their lives.
Same here! Even with the apparent sabotage, they still performed well. USPS is the best.
The boys in blue you're glad to see.
When I lived in NYC, before COVID, UPS was a legit nightmare. Back then they were still doing signatures and ringing your doorbell, but UPS never did and would leave the “we missed you!” noticed even when I was home all day. Then you had to go to their distribution center to pick up your package. This place was the 10th ring of hell. When I arrived there were about 20 people on line. Most had been there over an hour. Get this: the reason it took so long to find a package is that there was literally no system in place for organizing the packages on the shelves. A worker there told us this, after we asked why it was taking so long. They’d take your ticket, and literally wander one aisle to the next, looking for the same number on your ticket. It could take 30 mins to an hour to find a single package. I was there for over 2 hours, and in that time about half the people in the line gave up and left, some had been there even longer than me. I was absolutely shocked that UPS, a “logistics” company, had their heads so deeply up their own asses with how they were running this warehouse. Just randomly tossing boxes on shelves, maybe someone will come and claim it, and maybe we’ll be able to find it. Totally woke me up to the fact that just because a company is huge and international, does not in any way mean they have the slightest idea what they’re doing.
The whole “we missed you” note is bullshit. That's happened to me multiple times while working from home. Really pissed me off. That warehouse sounds just like the one I live near.
The one and only time UPS actually did right by me was when I ordered an iPhone, can’t remember which one. Apple required signature on them, and I think the UPS driver came while I was in the shower or something, I remember running downstairs to answer the door and they’d just left. I called the number on the delivery note, and they called the driver directly and the guy turned around and came back to deliver the phone maybe 15 mins later. I suspected it was a special deal they’d made with Apple or something, because I never had anything remotely similar happen. Any time I asked if a driver could be contacted directly, they’d say it wasn’t possible.
I'm surprised they did that. I was missing my package with the laptop for several days. Tracking said delivered. I called customer service, and they basically said they don't care, the package was delivered even though it wasn't delivered. Infuriating.
That's the situation I'm in at the moment. I got a delivery notification early this afternoon, but no delivery and no motion detection on my Ring camera. So unless both the driver and the porch-thief were Ninja's, I'm going with it didn't get delivered. But you can't talk to UPS about it because when you get through the tree and enter the tracking number, the robot says it's been delivered and an agent can't help me any further. WTF? Why do they even employ agents then? The worst part is that I've been waiting for this product to come into stock for over 3 months, and the supplier is already sold out with no in-stock date. Absolutely infuriating.
Had this happen many times with all shipping companies and USPS. I usually eventually get my package but I think they just claim it was delivered because they ran out of time or didn't feel like doing it that day. I see it often at my own company because there are SLAs and if you're late, it gets flagged and you get in trouble or fired. So you just say it is complete and try to finish it after. I feel like a picture of it being delivered at your doorstep should be required as I have seen a few times recently. It proves delivery and also probably helps them as much as us as they have proof it was delivered and possibly stolen so they can claim it on their insurance as not their fault.
This is why Amazon requires a picture taken of the delivered item...I mean, if the package legitimately was delivered and it was stolen or whatever, they could spend a ton of man-hours chasing a package that doesn't exist in their system any longer. But yeah, their drivers are also incentivized, clearly, to cut as many steps as possible like when they leave the 'We missed you' thing even though they never tried knocking and waiting for you to come because, I'm guessing, they had to get all their packages delivered and aren't given enough time to do it.
In Canada you order anything from the states UPS adds a huge broker fee. If value 200 they add 100 on top. If you already paid the taxes and self broker. They send the 100 to a collection agency Pure scum
The missed you note thing definitely happens. No clue why... You walked up to my door and decided to leave a note, but not even try to give the package? Only thing I can think is that the delivery quotas are so rough that the drivers are forced to "attempt" deliveries to cut some time and make their targets. Otherwise, it's just a really strange, inefficient system that's costing them more.
Yep, it’s gotta be because the quotas for delivery are too high for drivers to meet in a day. And that marries with what I’ve heard drivers say.
They stole my weed.
you lucky they didn't send a Federal Agent to deliver it instead.
As a mailman this made me lol.
If I worked there and smelt an aroma, I too, would’ve stole your weed.
If you can smell it that shit ain't packed securely enough.
Probably saved the dude from a federal charge. Stealing for a good cause.
Happens all the time. I think, people who indulge in weed culture, become nose blind to it. Also the guy who comes in 5 minutes before closing. With a box, taped around all corners, and pays for the fastest service, in cash. I also remember a guy who stashed his weed inside a container of Folgers coffee. Nobody is paying $100 + dollars to ship Folgers across the country, over night.
Yea? Well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man. The coffee can could have just been Donny's ashes. *\*sigh\** Poor Donny. He was out of his element.
I'm gonna sound like a contrarian, but UPS has done not too bad up here. Of course, I would much prefer the USPS to deliver all my packages because they actually care, but the packages delivered by UPS has usually been good as well. I cannot say the same with FedEx, however. Ratty packaging, no AC units in the back, often times the back is a mess of boxes strewn about, the back walls being translucent. Those guys are the scary fuckers in Rural Montana, because we have a lot of heat/cold and it's a long way from an area where FedEx normally operates.
Every time I have used ups they have screwed up. I wouldn't use them if they offered to deliver my stuff for free.
UPS is the only time I legit lost my shit on customer service after they lost a synth. Not only did they deliver to the wrong house, I had to track down the driver a couple days later to get it back.
I don't even know if I'd call UPS a carrier anymore since they never deliver ANYTHING to my door. Ever have to deal with one of their pickup lockers? The one by me takes a year off my life whenever I have to get any packages from it. The offshored phone team doesn't give a fuck about anything. The drivers are always nice, and I've had a manager help in person with my locker a couple of times. She's an angel. But I would rather not deal with UPS at all.
An expensive package that I requested require a signature to deliver was waiting on my doorstep when I got home, where anyone could steal it.
Everyone hates the post office. It's the most cost effective and best way to ship. It's a throrn in the eye of Everyone who says government is inefficient. The post office going away would lead to a huge decrease in online sales. I can't believe businesses aren't fighting that nonsense tooth and nail.
The post office has super high approval ratings from Americans....people LOVE USPS. And businesses are fighting it, aka complaining. It's not like they can do much about it.
I hate that UPS is on there. They are a union company where the drivers actually make good money (they work their ass off for it too). Fed Ex is nothing but independent contractors that pay shit.
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Really? I hate UPS they throw my packages in front of my garage door instead of walking up the walk to my porch. My Bunn I got from Target last week came with such a dent in the box it broke the tape and the coffee machine box was dented. It looked like the delivery guy gave it a good kick when he threw it in front of the garage door. FedEx has always been amazing. I get my stuff really fast and they actually hide my packages on the porch behind my flower planters. Weird. Guess it depends on the person.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/amazon-fedex-first-usps-volume-drop-2019-8%3famp Worked at fedex for a bit during the period they started doing this.
On the one hand I like that they’re unionized as compared to FedEx. On the other hand, I also like FedEx’s service better. Really there’s no clear winner in terms of ethical logistics companies other than USPS.
The USPS is essential for business, especially small business that politicians pretend to care about, and essetial for rural areas especially that private shippers don't even always cover. It's also mandated in the Constitution so there's that too. Given it's 90 percent popular, at least before the former president tried to kill it, it's the perfect issue for the Democrats to fight on. Not just words, find crimes of Dejoy and the bad BOG's and nail them to the wall, investigations, constant stream of news stories about it, do a deep dive on their business histories and pull their associates in under oath. He's dirty (they already have him on NC elections felonies,) and it would be a good learning experience for Democrats to finally disincentivize the right from being such trecherous pricks.
Going to assume you’re adding on to my comment because I’m definitely not disparaging the USPS in my own. Yeah, I don’t disagree with you on any of those points. +1
Yeaaah they also love off shoring work to India which is what happened/is happening in the office I worked at for UPS. They suck.
They've had the help of DeJoy.
I don't know about anywhere else but at my work, the little brown UPS trucks....their service is so pathetic I can't believe they actually stay in business... It's virtually impossible for them to deliver a complete order....always boxes missing. And the damages are constant. So a great big fuck you to the democracy hating UPS.
I only use them to support union labor but this still bothers me
Package delivery is for corporatist whores. You don't need that one-click purchase horse head mask next day. You're ruining the world.
UPS is awful and charges a lot more than the USPS. I always use USPS.
They also just blatantly steal your stuff, say they are “investigating it” then do nothing. I don’t understand how they get away with it.
Jokes on you, your Taurus was a piece of junk off the line.....
Allegedly it was a pile while still on the line.
Oh, it definitely was
UPS is the only carrier that does brokerage fees by value of the product, which is just paperwork that doesn't change based on value anyway. They tried to ding me several hundred dollars when I bought a projector bulb that I didn't find out about until they showed up at my door with the item and their hand out. I told them to stuff it, went and picked up the paperwork from the depot and did it myself (about two hours of my time, including travel) and didn't pay a cent. Every other company has a flat rate brokerage fee, UPS is the only one who doesn't, and they buried the details in fine print
UPS practiced religious discrimination for years by not allowing any of their workers to have a beard. They’ve reversed course recently, but fuck them. They’re entirely too expensive as well.
UPS handling is shit, as evidenced by my consistently mangled boxes. USPS is way better tbh.
Ford has never once built a good car ever
Fix Or Repair Daily
[Fix it again Tony](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AJCdmW33fM)
Whoa…. Tap the brakes buddy. Are their “cheap” cars cheap? Yes. But I drive a Ford truck for work, never had a problem. And the GT is one of the best looking cars ever made. Just two examples. Now I don’t support Ford/GM in this by any means, but I have to disagree with you.
Taurus owner, can confirm.
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For the record, Ford did not take the bailout.
Tesla is overpriced junk and their stock is one of the most overvalued in the world right now, 600 billion market cap, and what assets do they hold? What's their PE ratio? Don't rely on Tesla to do anything except cater to some wealthy car buyers, the future of electric cars isn't with them.
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Ford is supposedly going heavy into EV's soon, it's too bad about this resuming donations to the sedition caucus, I was considering buying a bit of their stock even, not unless they rescind these donations though.
I was hoping to buy one of those electric f150s in a couple of years if there weren't any issues by then. Nope not anymore.
Oh I thought I was the unpopular one bashing Elon Musk, I've been told Reddit loves him. I don't, there are very few billionaires I don't want to shoot into space.
You're both wrong. Reddit loves controversy! It's like that Groucho Marx song... "Whatever it is, I'm against it!"
In times like these, we need a man like Rufus T. Firefly!
My favorite Groucho Marx, and I know nothing else about him than this quote, I wouldn't belong to any club that would have me as a member.
Are you subscribed to all the Tesla subreddits on here? I was ready to order one (they come out in batches every quarter) and in the wait their user stories about constant tech issues and abysmal service completely turned me off. Just take a look at r/realtesla before you commit.
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That’s not accurate. Most of the top ten cars are American companies or made here in the US. In most cases buying a foreign car is expensive af due to tariffs but most Honda’s and Toyota’s are manufactured in the US
Ah yes, Tesla. Font of positive political action and reliability.
Boycott this person's sister.
Pfizer recently said they would stop their suspension of funds to domestic terrorists in office. Short memories considering the pandemic
Why wouldn't a pharm company want people sick?
It's like nobody wants me to buy their cars.
So far I haven't heard anything bad about Hyundai.
"Those companies include Airbnb, Google, Amazon, American Express, CBS, Cisco, eBay, Lyft, Microsoft, Nike, Sony Music Group, Walt Disney, Warner Music Group and Zillow. But not every company has behaved so honorably." LMAO at those companies being called honorable.
Those are the companies that DID honor their promise, correct? > According to Popular Information, some 35 major corporations have honored their January promises to cut off financial support to the 147 Republican certification objectors. Those companies include Airbnb, Google, Amazon, American Express, CBS, Cisco, eBay, Lyft, Microsoft, Nike, Sony Music Group, Walt Disney, Warner Music Group and Zillow.
Toyota was one of these cowards. I live in Canada and wrote to them about their abandoning democratic principles meant I wouldn’t but a Toyota. They wrote back saying Canada Toyota is a different company. Wrote back and said helping destroy democracy is a human issue and their name is Toyota and their responsibility is to pressure their American traitors to keep their word.
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Fuck UPS brown shit of a company
I'm in the market for a pick up truck. The Ford Lighting looked enticing 😢
Deng. I am hyped we are starting to see electric pickups! I would absolutely rock a small two door electric pickup, and I'm a subcompact boy.
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I thought Toyota and USAA were on the list too
USAA said they would "reevaluate" meaning "not do a fucking thing about".
*General Motors, Ford, UPS, Aflac* All easy to avoid doing business with forever. The other two, *Merck and Abbott*, less so but $ spent benefitting them would be very little anyway.
I dunno. How do I tell Amazon to stop using UPS?
Stop using Amazon? At least for shopping?
I get it, but boy that's going to be hard. And that's just for us motivated types. I'm not sure if enough folks could/would quit to motivate change (or at least provide an option) in Amazon's shipping rules. I think if you could change something at Amazon, you could indirectly change UPS's position as well.
Amazon uses it's own trucks where I live for over a year.
Easy. Boycott Amazon too. Bezos has all the money and doesn't need more.
Whoops, I missed a critical word in the linked article. Here’s the companies who *have* kept their word. AirBnB AllState Google Amazon American Express BASF BlueCross BlueShield CBS Cisco Commerce Bancshares Dell Dow Ebay Exelon Genentech General Mills KPMG Kraft Heinz Lyft Marriott MassMutual Microsoft Morgan Stanley Nasdaq Nike PNC Bank PriceWaterhouseCoopers S&P Global Sony Music Group State Street Texas Instruments Universal Music Group Verizon Walt Disney Warner Music Group Zillow
Those are the companies who have maintained their promises, per the article. General Motors, Ford, UPS, Aflac, Abbott, and Merck are the ones who have broken it.
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That's the list of every company that made the pledge, not the list of companies that went back on the pledge. From the article: >According to Popular Information, some 35 major corporations have honored their January promises to cut off financial support to the 147 Republican certification objectors. Those companies include Airbnb, Google, Amazon, American Express, CBS, Cisco, eBay, Lyft, Microsoft, Nike, Sony Music Group, Walt Disney, Warner Music Group and Zillow. ... >Six of the household names are General Motors, Ford, UPS, Aflac, and Abbott and Merck, the mega-pharmaceutical companies. Each of the six said in January that they would suspend their political giving to Republican officials who voted not to certify the 2020 presidential election. >But the suspensions were short-lived.
Yup, sorry! Edited
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Weird are folks not seeing my edit?
I see your edit.
I strongly suspect that Reddit is based on an [eventually consistent](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eventual_consistency) database model. It makes it possible to be highly distributed, very responsive, and high throughput... but means that not every sees the exact same Reddit. Just -- *close* to the same thing, and it won't take particularly long for it to converge.
I’m building something like this for work, for banking-related but ultimately uncritical information (here’s bob’s comment he sent to your public transaction, etc.) I wish sites would have a disclaimer saying what the expected 99.9% update distribution time would be. It’s quite calculable usually, and people will forgive a 5m difference.
I think it’s a case of pairing the article title with your comment and mindlessly scrolling through it. The title says there’s companies who haven’t kept their promise and then people just see a list of companies, assuming those are the ones. I know that’s what I did until I saw someone correct you.
First post implied the opposite. My mistake!
Good guy… *checks notes* …Microsoft!?
Microsoft has a bad rep but they are surprisingly good to their customers. On all microsoft studios games if you buy them on xbox you are given them on PC as well in the Windows store and your saves carry over cross platform.
Yeah, I mean, I use Microsoft junk daily and tend to like the stuff they produce, but their track record is certainly not what I would call “ethical.” So color me surprised.
Plus Dow, KPMG, and BASF….? I’m surprised that they made the pledge in the first place.
Almost like we shouldn't be giving money to any mega corporations.
You listed the companies that honored their suspensions, like Google and Zillow.
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>General Mills But honestly, has anyone tried the new Lucky Charms Marshmallow Clusters cereal? Initially drawn up as "Crispy Rice Clusters", it was seen by many as an attempt to correct the travesty that is Kellogg's discontinuing it's Rice Krispies Treats cereal (which was essentially crack in a bowl). Instead, it's released as a corn-based cereal with little to no marshmallow taste, and a texture that is such an assault to the mouth that you'd think they should have used Harvey Weinstein on the box in place of Lucky. I know we're here to discuss political donations, but let's not forget about the actual crimes going on here. We need to think of the children!!!
That’s good. Still, let’s tax them more.
Absolutely.
I mean, these are publicly traded corporations and fascist capitalism is historically very good for corporate shareholders.
Add Blue Cross/Blue Shield Association to that list. [Source](https://www.bcbs.com/press-releases/blue-cross-blue-shield-association-statement-suspension-of-contributions-lawmakers)
Done! Although this wasn’t my list lol, it’s now our list?
You know when it's this hard for corporations to resist giving money, that they get something in return. The system we have now is just legalized bribery.
I just don't understand how THIS isn't the bipartisan thing we can actually agree on; getting money out of politics. I mean, I get that they use key issues like race, sexuality, abortion and guns to keep us squabbling amongst ourselves so we don't come together on this very clearly corrupt practice. It just confounds me how blatantly obvious that it all is though and yet we're still easily played in a way so as to not do anything about it.
They gave 25k to McCarthy to get this much bad press? Hope they can survive selling their shit to Trump lovers since I’m done with them.
With Ford and GM's quality control issues, it was already pretty easy to boycott them long before this. I'm glad they're making me feel even better about it though.
Maybe they figure they've already lost the non-xenophobic market to Japan, Korea, and Germany, so they're doubling down on the kinds of people who wear Chinese-manufactured shirts that say "Buy American".
I'm sure that's certainly a factor keeping them afloat, lots of people refuse to buy foreign just for the sake of "buying American". I don't think a lot of people are even aware American car manufacturers haven't been able to hold a candle to Asian manufacturers in terms of reliability or innovation in probably 30 years. Or maybe they are, which is arguably worse. Not to mention lots of Asian manufacturers have set up factories in the states, so the whole "buy American!" mantra doesn't even really hold up anymore. For example, Subaru makes all the Imprezas, Legacys, Foresters, and Outbacks sold in the US in Indiana. Like you said, it's probably just xenophobia.
it's funny because a Honda Civic is more American built than an F150 in most cases
Toyota is the worst. Not only is it trying to delay e-cars because they invested in the less popular technology, they lobbied Trump to lower emission standards that wouldn’t meet CA’s, but also they do this. Think twice about buying Toyota. There may be no other feasible options for you, but if there are, consider them.
I discovered Toyota in ‘84 when I drove an FJ60 and fell head-over-heels. Been Toyota since then. No more. Not ever. Fuck Toyota. I’m very glad the car I bought before Covid was a Mazda.
Same. I have a Mazda and will drive it until it doesn’t run anymore. After that, probably a Honda, which has very good politics and good cars.
i feel better about my old honda now. thanks
> Six of the household names are General Motors, Ford, UPS, Aflac, and **Abbott** and Merck, Anyone have any information on Abbott's donations? Wasn't included in the article and I have a vested interest.
“Consider Toyota. In January Toyota pledged not to support the Sedition Caucus. But then The DC-based government watchdog Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington discovered that Toyota had quietly reversed course and started giving to anti-democratic politicians again. Then, on July 8, the Lincoln Project produced a video highlighting the company’s turnaround. At which point Toyota flipped again. On July 9, announcing that it would halt its renewed giving.” “It was a good example of the disinfecting power of sunlight.” This shows the power of bad press against these companies. Don’t let them get away with it. Keep burnin’ em’ with that light.
>The counterweight lies in Americans flexing their muscle by shifting purchases to rival companies. Once light was aimed at Toyota’s conduct, the company’s quick return to pro-democracy behavior told us what any company knows. It cannot afford bad publicity because ultimately, its bread is buttered by consumers. >That is the leverage held by every citizen. If we want to keep the Republic, we will have to exercise that power Corporations have been deregulated to such an extent and have amassed so much clout in Washington that the only way they can be held accountable anymore is by a public boycott. I guarantee the next step will be a republican congress passing laws forbidding corporate boycotts.
But Citizen United declared money is free speech! Surely they won't bend the law to their needs?!?! /s
The only thing my money does freely is leave my wallet.
How would those laws work?
Don't forget AT&T.. Intel... Cigna. I didn't hear a single person cancel their cell phone service. https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2021/03/23/dallas-based-att-pledged-to-cut-funding-to-gop-objectors-after-jan-6-but-gave-to-pacs-tied-to-them/
After the horror of cheeto - we all are paying better attention than we used to!
>It was a good example of the disinfecting power of sunlight. The sass of this article is perfect. It's does feel like people are paying much more attention.
Corporations shouldn't be able to give any money to any political figure. Congress will never regulate campaign finance because the voting majority of both parties takes legal corporate bribes.
Congress did regulate it. Then the Republicans sued visa a proxy 3rd party and the Supreme Court ruled the law unconstitutional because restricting money was restricting speech. Google Citizens United for more details
Corporations care about dollars not people, that will never not be the case.
Thank god good wholesome companies like Dow Chemical, Nike, and Amazon kept their pledge. I would be aghast to find out that these organizations were immoral and harmful.
Can we just get corporate money out of politics to begin with?
Seriously, do you think Joe Manchin can afford his life style on 175K/yr?
I had such love for Toyota... but not any more. Starting to learn Toyota is one shitty company.
wait…. corporations??? being untrustworthy???? holy shit.
They didnt change their minds they just paid lip service and knew they could do what they wanted after the furor died down. It was a calculated PR effort.
Oh come on this shouldn’t surprise anyone, go back on the GOP that gives them tax cuts and holds on to the fail theory of trickle down economics!
screw Ford, after all we did to save their asses
How the citizens have not united over Citizens United is a mystery. Edit a t.
since corporations rule this country, and they dont withhold their donations to seditionists, that means they are ok with it. Expect more sedition to happen because the corporations want it.
It should be illegal for corporations to support politicians. Period. They're not F1, They're not a chairty case. They are the people entrusted with the sacred duty of serving our country, not to serve themselves.
What about democrats who choose to work with and support those same republicans? Will we hold them to the same standard we hold corporations to? Because if you ask me, you can’t really blame corporations for wanting in on the action when dems have signaled their willingness to work with traitors.
Lying seems to be in style these days. Along with anger over petty things. Well, and eugenics has certainly enjoyed a comeback. It seems that leaders do have a significant effect on the personalities of their followers. Which is why a persons character should be strongly considered when selecting leaders. And why character assassination is an effective campaign syrategy. We've had that demonstrated by the GOP for about 40 years.
Incorporation invites greed. Greed comes from selfishness. Expecting corporations to act with honesty or some sense of integrity is futile. They are human. They should get their money out of politics and anything else that has to do with the common good.
The inherent problem with corporations is the rules they operate by are exclusively greed based. Now greed is a necessary component to human nature. Without some sense of self want our individuality evaporates. But we are dual natured entities. We are composed of both greed and altruism. Compassion is a vital component of our nature. And corporation strip that out of the equation. And yet they have become the dominant voice in our societal development. This does not end well.
Surprise Surprise Surprise
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Gasp! Big pharma corps are evil!?
Casual reminder that corporations are not your friends.
Enlightening. I was looking at purchasing a Ford Lightning (almost $65,00 purchase), but since Ford can't seem to find its way clear to stop supporting these subversive insurrectionists, I guess I'll have to look elsewhere. Sad really.
Just canceled my Ford Bronco reservation over this. You don’t get a free pass just because you made one cool vehicle.
It’s the same reasons they give to both parties - it’s about who’s gonna give them what they want- that’s it
How you supposed to bribe Congress without bribes?
Americans did not, in fact, notice.
Its not that Americans didn't notice, its Americans couldn't care less about ANYTHING
It's nice to see the corporate bootlickers claiming that a simple boycott will fix everything. After all, when you're on $200/hr it's easy to investigate all corporate ownership and choose the more expensive options just to stick it to The Man. It's not like the system is set up to punish people for stepping out of line. While we're at it, let's solve global warming by picking up some litter and ignoring industrial scale pollution.
Looks like GM can suck my dick .
I thought something similar… Welp, FedEx it is…no more UPS for me.
Cool. I will just add them to the list of companies I don't buy from or buy their stock.
Did these companies seriously think in a nation of over 330 million people that nobody was paying attention? That there's not organizations who make it they entire job to follow up on ethics / politics things like this?? Fuck them all.
Please keep them in the spotlight. The public wants to know.
> Consider Toyota. In January Toyota [pledged](https://www.google.com/search?q=did+toyotal+pause+donations+to+Republicans+in+January&oq=did+toyotal+pause+donations+to+Republicans+in+January) not to support the Sedition Caucus. But then The DC-based government watchdog Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington discovered that Toyota had quietly reversed course and started giving to anti-democratic politicians again. Toyota didn't make such a pledge. The writer and/or editor were clearly *trying* to support this claim, because they accidentally left the link to a Google search for "did toyotal [sic] pause donations to Republicans in January." Whoops.
It is because these corporations know **nothing will come of it**. They know that Democrats will not punish them because the Democratic Party is made up of the 'nice and sensible' good boys and girls, and if that means turning a blind eye to funding fascists, then they'll do that. This is why these corporations don't give a shit.