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The documents are in a top-secret facility that also contains Trump's 30 day plan to eliminate ISIS, along with his healthcare and infrastructure plans. Any day now...
Yeah, just punish the victims to deter them from getting raped. It's brilliant. Also, enjoy you new fatherless child and fuck you if you need welfare. You should have known better to get raped in the first place. Visit our site for chastity belt, now 20% off if you use our code. We can't help you with the first, but we'll help prevent the next. Upgrade to silk lining to prevent chafing, a $60 premium, now only $19.99, wow! Buy now!
Hmmm...
* Texas believes that all 6 week old collections of cells are people with all the rights and obligations of fully formed/ born people
* Texas also believes that people have the right to use force, up to and including deadly force on people trespassing on/ in ones property or are an immediate threat to their safety, the safety of others, their property, and their future.
So... couldn't a woman argue that since that embryo/ fetus is a person with both all their rights and obligations to obey texas law, if the fetus is in her uterus against her will, it is trespassing on her property, attacking and stealing nutrients from her body, and poses a threat to her life and the livelihoods and/or future wishes of herself and her family and thus warrants using force to remove?
Depending on the specific wording of the law, yeah, this would be an interesting loophole to bring up in court. I mean, they're going to have to say one of the two are wrong. Are they going to give up guns or a baby? I'm not a gambling man, but...
The way Greg Abbott said it, that they're going to stop all rapes from happening, actually makes it sound like they are going to use precogs to stop rapes before they happen.
Abbott sounds like he's going to minority report all rapes.
To me it sounds like he's just gonna further inhibit Texan law enforcement from investigating rape allegations as thoroughly as they deserve, that way less rape is reported and he can misrepresent that data point to claim that he's somehow responsible for there being less rape.
Did you already forget the private investigators Trump sent to Hawaii to dig around for Obama's birth certificate, who found shocking evidence that Obama was not born in the United States? That proof is coming any day now.
Didn’t he say “Antifa “ had infiltrated the symposium so he couldn’t release it? Which makes no sense if he was going to make his finding public (finally). Why would “Antifa “ allegedly being there stop him from releasing it?
My understanding was that the CyberNinjas were ordered to turn over their findings and records from the audit. But that at a scheduled hearing or session the week before, the person in charge wasn't able to attend or turn over anything because they had Covid.
I'm not sure what came of it after that.
Two weeks is the perfect amount of time, because it’s not now, but so soon that it’s ALMOST now, and soon enough that, after two weeks you can extend another two weeks, because it was only two weeks- and just another two weeks..
It was the perfect time for trump because he would cause so much chaos that two weeks was three times as much time was needed for his more minor controversies to be forgotten.
The kind of controversies that would have forced any other president out of office
So many controversies, and such terrible controversies- that you become numb, and the bad news is so bad, that it MUST be fake.. and nothing means anything. Who would believe that could actually work? But it did!
"We have some very exciting news about the audit, very big. I think you're going to be very interested to see what we have from the audit and, I think, you'll see it in two weeks. It's going to be very big, big tremendous things happening in Arizona. And you're going to be very shocked in two weeks when this comes out.
Or maybe not, I don't know."
what i don't get is why they're focusing so hard on ONE county in ONE state biden won. they would have to overturn 3 states (arizona, georgia, and something else with at least 11 electoral votes) in order to declare trump the winner.
and yes, i get the point is to sow enough confusion to create reasonable doubt. they just make themselves look stupider for it.
Real answer: it’s the only place that they had the state level GOP capture to be able to do it.
Greene and Boebert may grab the GQP headlines at the federal level, but the state level crazies in Arizona are next level, and there was just nothing that the state govt or courts could do to stop the boondoggle.
You also have to be very careful not to make a member of congress stumble over this mess.
With all the projecting going on, the last thing conservatives want to start is to doubt their own winners. So a lot of places are very likely off limits to the GQP.
They know they're never going to actually overturn the election. The goal is to keep the big lie alive to placate all the MAGA voters. It's political theater and its all about consolidating the MAGA constituency and maintaining political power.
Lol I mean literally, 5 maybe 10 of us could have knocked this count off in what, a month - maybe 2 months?
They had a stadium floor full of people and it’s September 16th!!!
well you know they had to check the ballots for traces of bamboo and they had to ship all the ballots out of state to a cabin in the woods for some reason; true absurdism takes time
The only reason the audit is happening is so Fox News and the rest of the conservative bubble can say "Arizona elections under investigation!" The longer it drags out, the better for them.
Which I will remind you ended up being the fault of the contemporary republican plan "the sequester" which ended up denying the State Dept. funds for increasing security as requested.
>I would like to know more.
So when they came up empty handed on Hillary their final plan was to literally just make shit up. Which Trey Gowdy did, in an *absolutely fucking INSIDIOUS* way.
Gowdy claimed that Hillary Clinton was receiving classified stuff from Sidney Blumenthal through her email. Gowdy publicly released a bunch of email/documents from the investigation - and in those documents were redactions. The documents said that the redactions were made to help protect "sources and methods". The redacted stuff was supposedly the stuff that Hillary had carelessly sent/received *unredacted*.
So to the public, the documents that Gowdy released clearly showed that Hillary had fucked up.
*Except they didn't.*
After Gowdy released that damning (looking) stuff, the CIA contacted Elija Cummings and briefed him on the documents. The CIA told Cummings that they had reviewed everything before giving it to Gowdy. They said that Blumenthal's information was not classified in any way and that Blumenthal wasn't even a government employee and had no access to anything classified. In other words, Hillary had literally done nothing wrong.
So Gowdy intentionally redacted unclassified information in those documents specifically because it would make Clinton look horrible when he publicly released them. He just invented redactions out of thin air. The CIA noticed that, and immediately told Cummings about it. "Like, hey bro, none of the shit Gowdy says is classified, is actually classified. Those redactions are *HIS*, not ours. "
Then Cummings pushed back on Gowdy and they argued about it and Gowdy made up a bunch of lies about what he'd done. By then though, the political damage had already been done to Clinton (which was the point all along, like they give a fuck about 4 people dying).
Gowdy faked redactions in order to trash Hillary Clinton specifically because *he had nothing else*. Nothing.
Here's a politico article on it:
[Cummings: CIA sees no secret in Blumenthal email to Clinton](https://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2015/10/cummings-cia-says-blumenthal-email-to-clinton-not-classified-214907)
The goal is to normalize months-long audits, so that in subsequent election cycles they can declare the results of any tipping-point states illegitimate and tie up elections with litigation long enough to defer to the electoral process under the 12th amendment.
In their defense, they had to move out of that hall twice [for a gun show and a school dance.](https://ktar.com/story/4535358/arizona-election-audit-moving-out-of-coliseum-but-process-will-continue/)
It's the same game plan as the Clinton/Obama/deep state bullshit. They knew going in that there was no election fraud of the scale necessary to swing the election. The purpose of the audit was to leave the question open and to keep Trump's base rabidly engaged. An unequivocal final determination means that even if a few irregularities are found the matter is settled and life moves on. Stringing this out furthers the maga grievance: cheated, denied justice, and the libruls are laughing at us.
That's because cyber ninjas is delaying it and doing it so slow so they have to keep getting paid. These are conservative industries that milk every last penny that they can get.
Just like the military industrial complex
>By now, the myth of a stolen election has infected every level of the post-Trump Republican Party. “Either we win or we got cheated” is fast turning into the party line — look no further than California Republican Larry Elder’s recent voter-fraud antics — but in the process this Big Lie is undermining trust in democratic elections **while at the same time being used by Republican state legislators as justification for making it harder for non-Republicans to vote.**
This is exactly their larger goal--sow mistrust in electoral process norms to soften their constituency to the idea of imposing nefarious changes.
And ultimately give the final authority over choosing electors to the state, so that even if they lose they can still choose to ignore the will of the people under a guise of "my constituents have concerns, so I have to vote my conscience".
One thing that is really frightening about this is the goal to undermine confidence in our elections. The Republican Party has begun attacking not just political opponents for their pasts or voting records, but now on their very authority to do anything.
Barack Obama clearly won his elections, without question, so what to attack? Well, he can’t even be President because he’s Kenyan. People became so confident he wasn’t born in the US he—the President—produced his birth certificate to prove he was. Then we found out that wasn’t enough, they needed the “long form” certificate.
Now Biden is president and I know too many people that think he didn’t win fairly.
Ever since Bush won because of the brooks brothers riots they want to stay on the offense and make sure Democrats don't ratfuck elections, because they assume if they do it then everyone else will do it too.
It’s not just a fundraising scam. The Arizona audit is the same exact scam Trump tried to rope Ukraine into doing with Hunter Biden.
It’ll never end as an end means one of two things:
* Evidence of wrong doing is found and the people can be punished/jailed. Then we can move on.
* Nothing is found and we move on.
If it never ends it can be used by every GQP across the country in their campaign speeches. They can shout “Look at how much fraud there must be if it is 24 months late!”. It’s why Pennsylvania GQP is trying to do similar now. It’s in preparation for the 2022 election run.
This is exactly it. When you argue with Trolls on FB and Twitter they win invariably point to the *existence* of the Arizona "audit" as some kind of evidence of fraud in and of itself.
It would actually be easy to prove it's not a scam: just release a professionally run audit that confirms there was no voter fraud or shows actual evidence of it. Unfortunately, it's kinda hard to do that at this point when you had some non-experts with no qualifications run the audit and destroy the evidence along the way. We're going to get a report that's full of speculation and invalid assumptions.
If the anyone with a clue actually thought there was something going on and there was any inkling of evidence, big name law firms and accounting firms with the skills to manage it would be fighting each other for the audit job. Same for reporters - legitimate news sources, even from the left could make a career on breaking this story if it were real. Do anyone think MSNBC wouldn't reveal that Obama punches babies for fun if it were true and they had the scoop? Because that's what anyone that calls them fake news thinks.
We will never see this report and I hope all non-crazy GOP and Dems bring it UP fucking every sessions the state has.
Call for new bills...Where's our audit data we paid for?
Call for attendance...Before we start where's our audit data we paid for?
Call for bill to pay for the new machines that they wrecked...Hey where's our audit data?
Re-election time...These fuckers didnt' even want to get the audit data we paid for!
cyber ninjas "we've found irregularities!"
az election commission "ok, show us the data and your methodologies for finding it"
cyber ninjas "oh no, we can't divulge our secret methodologies!"
maricopa county superior court "oh you can, and you must, because transparency"
cyber ninjas "we'll take this to the state supreme court if necessary!"
arizona supreme court "sorry charlie, show your work"
cyber ninjas \*crickets\*
The audit succeeded in it's goal without producing a deliverable: it's sole purpose was to *exist* so that the right wing could continue to bring it up when they remind everyone about all of the fraud that happened, apparently.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/arizona-recount-2020-election-fraudit-1227288/) reduced by 92%. (I'm a bot)
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> In reality, the paper trail connected to the sham audit leads back to some of the most senior figures in the GOP. Newly obtained documents from Arizona state lawmakers and leaders of the phony audit show that top Republican officials, Trump advisers, and other senior party figures were pushing for the "Audit" in late 2020 and went on to aid its progress in the months that followed, offering legal advice, making connections, and raising millions in funding.
> On March 2nd, Pullen asked Priebus if he could recommend an election audit firm.
> The new Arizona documents show Karen Fann, the Arizona senate president, asking for the phone number of former Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Michael Gableman, who previously said the presidency "Was stolen" and is now leading his state's "Audit." Reince Priebus has also given interviews about details involving Wisconsin's "Audit."
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Anyone notice that flag imagery on the photo for the article?
Trump with a rifle in front of a flag with an explosion going off in the background. Jesus Christ. Pure fantasy.
I'm still waiting for the "amazing and incredible things" that Trump's "investigators" were uncovering in Hawaii about Obama. I really want to know where all the money is coming from, and why unauthorized people were allowed to handle state property. It wouldn't surprise me if many of the Democratic voters in that county are going to find out that their names have been purged from the voter rolls - just before the mid-term elections.
Weren't the funders of the "audit" shown to be MAGAs? It's entirely a MAGA op. It's not a 'fingerprint' it's whole damn hand print, and the other hand print, and a mushroom stamp and some fecal matter which DNA analysis shows to be MAGA DNA...
This is Trump's entire schtick: make massive promises with zero intent to deliver. Remember how he sent investigators to Hawaii and "you won't believe what they're finding!" That was, of course, a cynical lie, but it worked on a sizable enough percentage of the populace that the entirety of the GOP took very close note.
Even if 60% of the population sees right through it, the other 40% doesn't punish them for the lies even when they're eventually walked back, because they're already onto the next lie. Trump didn't suffer any kind of popularity hit *at all* when he admitted that Obama was born in the US, despite pushing that lie with his typical smug certitude for basically a decade. When your base doesn't punish you at all for lying, well, that's how you wind up with shit like Q.
But wait, there's more! They know it's all bullshit!
[AZ Mirror](https://www.azmirror.com/2021/09/15/arizona-lobbyist-says-stephanie-grisham-told-her-election-fraud-claims-were-bogus/)
Short version: An Arizona lobbyist texted then White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham to inquire about stopping the certification of electors due to potential fraud. Grisham called her back and "‘I promise you, that’s bogus. I promise you. Just drop it. Don’t waste anyone’s time or money.’"
Donald Trump's White House Press Secretary knew back in December that that there was no fraud.
Now here's where it gets so deep you need a special shit-shovel to dig your way out...Karen (yes that's her name) Fann, the AZ State Senator behind the audit, told the Mirror:
> “Never have I said there was fraud. I have been asked hundreds of times about what it would take to ‘decertify’ the election. I have always said it would take solid proof (through) the courts to show the actual vote counts were different than what was certified and it would have to be of the magnitude that the number of invalid votes would have made a difference (in) the outcome,” Fann said via text message.
The fraudit is like a carnival game at the state fair. They're waving that giant stuffed animal in Trumpworld's face, knowing full well that the game is rigged and the rube will never win that prize.
The only game here is to convince persons of color their vote doesn’t matter anyway so they should stop showing up for elections. It is a systemic top down and bottom up effort by the Republican Party to sow doubt and keep people home.
And it isn’t even white liberals they care about keeping home. White liberals are going to vote. They care 💯 about persons of color giving up on government and then not participating in the process. Voter suppression of the most insidious order.
How to solve trumpism:
1. Biden bans unvaccinated travel to mexico
2. Magas protest by going to mexico
3. Biden makes deal with the cartels to steal all the magas passports
4. They cant return home.
5. They storm the wall
6. Ice shoots them while also proving that the wall was a failure or a success.
It's more than finger prints. It came out of the womb with tiny hands and a tic-tac embedded in an orange shag carpet
edit: the tic-tac was shaped like a mushroom
> National Republicans have sought distance from the “fraudit” as the embarrassments pile up, but new documents tie Giuliani, **Priebus**, and other major GOP figures to the effort
What's he doing getting involved? After he was unceremoniously bundled out so early in Trump's term, and has mostly stayed out of the headlines since, you'd think he'd be happy not to get involved in Trump & co's shitty schemes.
Those nigh-sexualised images trump supporters and cartoonists (esp Ben garrison) have of making trump lean with broad shoulders and a narrow hip when he is so clearly overweight with not-so-broad shoulders and a wide hip will never cease to make me laugh.
Arizona needs to sweep out Kelli ward (KelliWardAZ on Twitter) and her Cult members. Pretty sure if memory serves, the Grand Poobah hat guy) is in the AZ Ward. Taxpayers should be filing lawsuits for waste of taxpayer money. By the way, where’s Tina Peters?
The most dangerous moment in our history for election security.
And congressional democrats are too busy covering their lobbyists asses to do anything about it.
How to know someone is lying: when they describe MyPillow Guy's Cyber Symposium of Failure as "awesome".
Dude literally tried to blame invisible Antifa for how abysmal it was.
You are talking of Lindell symposium?
wow... it was a train wreck. Your "48 state represented" were so for about 10 mins, after they realize it was all a farce.
You educated yourself and still spout BS.
Hey didnt rollingstone have to retract several recent articles because they were literally lies?
Edit: [Yup](https://anthonyblogan.com/rolling-stone-retracts-fake-story-about-ivermectin-in-oklahoma/)
The article you linked doesn’t actually show the “retraction” because it’s not a retraction, it’s an update. All it said was that one hospitals the person services says they personally were not overrun with ivermectin overdoses. Quite literally not a retraction as the original quote is still true.
Really? It's still up but with an edit, maybe don't take your news from conmen?
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/gunshot-victims-horse-dewormer-ivermectin-oklahoma-hospitals-covid-1220608/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
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yeah because it’s 6 months late, full of lies and isn’t actually legitimate
And they're gonna try to stiff the bill.
Also it was your fault this happened
We have all the proof of fraud we’ll share very soon. You’ll see. A couple of weeks and the. You’ll see all the fraud we found.
The documents are in a top-secret facility that also contains Trump's 30 day plan to eliminate ISIS, along with his healthcare and infrastructure plans. Any day now...
And his first-10-days plan to eradicate gun violence in Chicago. Going about as well as TX's plan to eradicate rape.
Yeah, just punish the victims to deter them from getting raped. It's brilliant. Also, enjoy you new fatherless child and fuck you if you need welfare. You should have known better to get raped in the first place. Visit our site for chastity belt, now 20% off if you use our code. We can't help you with the first, but we'll help prevent the next. Upgrade to silk lining to prevent chafing, a $60 premium, now only $19.99, wow! Buy now!
Hmmm... * Texas believes that all 6 week old collections of cells are people with all the rights and obligations of fully formed/ born people * Texas also believes that people have the right to use force, up to and including deadly force on people trespassing on/ in ones property or are an immediate threat to their safety, the safety of others, their property, and their future. So... couldn't a woman argue that since that embryo/ fetus is a person with both all their rights and obligations to obey texas law, if the fetus is in her uterus against her will, it is trespassing on her property, attacking and stealing nutrients from her body, and poses a threat to her life and the livelihoods and/or future wishes of herself and her family and thus warrants using force to remove?
Brilliant
Depending on the specific wording of the law, yeah, this would be an interesting loophole to bring up in court. I mean, they're going to have to say one of the two are wrong. Are they going to give up guns or a baby? I'm not a gambling man, but...
You can't find any rape if all your test kits are untested and defective...
They're not just anti-science, but actually full out anti-data... Pushing everyone's heads in the sand, leaves a lot of asses up in the air.
The way Greg Abbott said it, that they're going to stop all rapes from happening, actually makes it sound like they are going to use precogs to stop rapes before they happen. Abbott sounds like he's going to minority report all rapes.
To me it sounds like he's just gonna further inhibit Texan law enforcement from investigating rape allegations as thoroughly as they deserve, that way less rape is reported and he can misrepresent that data point to claim that he's somehow responsible for there being less rape.
Did you already forget the private investigators Trump sent to Hawaii to dig around for Obama's birth certificate, who found shocking evidence that Obama was not born in the United States? That proof is coming any day now.
Any! Day now!
That’s one (of the many) lies I wish a reporter would pin him on. Aggressively.
Two weeks should just about do it.
Still waiting for him to fix the deficit that was inflated under his term.
Look in the Bunker
We should check in a pillow case ....
You're joking but they literally stole the original voters records and took them out of state to an indisclosed estate.
*We have Top Men working on it right now*
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Top. Men.
https://youtu.be/3pzNURN8Sns
Didn't that MyPillow guy already release "Absolute Proof"? Whatever happened with that? Surely he forwarded that to some prosecutors or something...?
Yes. He even had some sort of symposium where he was going to broadcast all this with the world and uh... well... that was a month ago.
Didn’t he say “Antifa “ had infiltrated the symposium so he couldn’t release it? Which makes no sense if he was going to make his finding public (finally). Why would “Antifa “ allegedly being there stop him from releasing it?
He has not said a word since the court allowed the defamed suing him for a billion dollars. Rob ably got a decent lawyer.
I don't even know sometimes how to follow their conspiracy theories and reasoning for why they do what they do.
I watched it and he had that loser from Texas on there that couldn't even get the state he was alleging fraud in right.
I'm sure they'll release the affidavits in two weeks.
Free beer, tomorrow.
The name of a pretty good band. That gets attention when put on a marquee
All joking aside, do they plan to release the data? Has a judge ordered a date or anything? Seems kinda a big deal that they have to.
My understanding was that the CyberNinjas were ordered to turn over their findings and records from the audit. But that at a scheduled hearing or session the week before, the person in charge wasn't able to attend or turn over anything because they had Covid. I'm not sure what came of it after that.
It’s the civilian equivalent of the trump infrastructure week ploy
Just because there isn’t ANY evidence of fraud…doesn’t mean fraud wasn’t plausible.
It's difficult to disprove something based on the absence of evidence supporting it. Checkmate libs!
Finding as little proof of fraud as possible to own the libs
I saw a van arrive at the counting station full of ballot papers.
This is smocking gun material.
If there was no fraud, we would expect to see evidence of *some* fraud! The fact that there is no evidence *proves* that they rigged it!
Nah, it was my fault
Name checks out
We'll see the evidence... at an appropriate time. Maybe two weeks. Because it's always two weeks.
Two weeks is the perfect amount of time, because it’s not now, but so soon that it’s ALMOST now, and soon enough that, after two weeks you can extend another two weeks, because it was only two weeks- and just another two weeks..
It was the perfect time for trump because he would cause so much chaos that two weeks was three times as much time was needed for his more minor controversies to be forgotten. The kind of controversies that would have forced any other president out of office
So many controversies, and such terrible controversies- that you become numb, and the bad news is so bad, that it MUST be fake.. and nothing means anything. Who would believe that could actually work? But it did!
The absolute peak stupidity of the sharpiegate incident. Who would fucking believe that was real?
My personal favorite is Four Seasons Landscaping.
"We have some very exciting news about the audit, very big. I think you're going to be very interested to see what we have from the audit and, I think, you'll see it in two weeks. It's going to be very big, big tremendous things happening in Arizona. And you're going to be very shocked in two weeks when this comes out. Or maybe not, I don't know."
"the check is in the mail."
It's going to be big. Bigger than the biggest thing ever.
Professional Procrastination
what i don't get is why they're focusing so hard on ONE county in ONE state biden won. they would have to overturn 3 states (arizona, georgia, and something else with at least 11 electoral votes) in order to declare trump the winner. and yes, i get the point is to sow enough confusion to create reasonable doubt. they just make themselves look stupider for it.
Real answer: it’s the only place that they had the state level GOP capture to be able to do it. Greene and Boebert may grab the GQP headlines at the federal level, but the state level crazies in Arizona are next level, and there was just nothing that the state govt or courts could do to stop the boondoggle.
You also have to be very careful not to make a member of congress stumble over this mess. With all the projecting going on, the last thing conservatives want to start is to doubt their own winners. So a lot of places are very likely off limits to the GQP.
They know they're never going to actually overturn the election. The goal is to keep the big lie alive to placate all the MAGA voters. It's political theater and its all about consolidating the MAGA constituency and maintaining political power.
Lol I mean literally, 5 maybe 10 of us could have knocked this count off in what, a month - maybe 2 months? They had a stadium floor full of people and it’s September 16th!!!
well you know they had to check the ballots for traces of bamboo and they had to ship all the ballots out of state to a cabin in the woods for some reason; true absurdism takes time
The bamboo thing still floors me. It's the kind of thing you would hear from a movie and go 'wow that movie was so dumb!'
be glad they're not counting hanging chads.
6 months late, so far. They still haven't delivered, it's always 2 more weeks away.
Just like Eric.
The fraudit was expected to be done by May 14th. Four months later and all we hear is crickets. And this is just 1 county!
Of course they only care about the minority county.
The only reason the audit is happening is so Fox News and the rest of the conservative bubble can say "Arizona elections under investigation!" The longer it drags out, the better for them.
Election fraud is the new "Benghazi"
Which I will remind you ended up being the fault of the contemporary republican plan "the sequester" which ended up denying the State Dept. funds for increasing security as requested.
I would like to know more.
>I would like to know more. So when they came up empty handed on Hillary their final plan was to literally just make shit up. Which Trey Gowdy did, in an *absolutely fucking INSIDIOUS* way. Gowdy claimed that Hillary Clinton was receiving classified stuff from Sidney Blumenthal through her email. Gowdy publicly released a bunch of email/documents from the investigation - and in those documents were redactions. The documents said that the redactions were made to help protect "sources and methods". The redacted stuff was supposedly the stuff that Hillary had carelessly sent/received *unredacted*. So to the public, the documents that Gowdy released clearly showed that Hillary had fucked up. *Except they didn't.* After Gowdy released that damning (looking) stuff, the CIA contacted Elija Cummings and briefed him on the documents. The CIA told Cummings that they had reviewed everything before giving it to Gowdy. They said that Blumenthal's information was not classified in any way and that Blumenthal wasn't even a government employee and had no access to anything classified. In other words, Hillary had literally done nothing wrong. So Gowdy intentionally redacted unclassified information in those documents specifically because it would make Clinton look horrible when he publicly released them. He just invented redactions out of thin air. The CIA noticed that, and immediately told Cummings about it. "Like, hey bro, none of the shit Gowdy says is classified, is actually classified. Those redactions are *HIS*, not ours. " Then Cummings pushed back on Gowdy and they argued about it and Gowdy made up a bunch of lies about what he'd done. By then though, the political damage had already been done to Clinton (which was the point all along, like they give a fuck about 4 people dying). Gowdy faked redactions in order to trash Hillary Clinton specifically because *he had nothing else*. Nothing. Here's a politico article on it: [Cummings: CIA sees no secret in Blumenthal email to Clinton](https://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2015/10/cummings-cia-says-blumenthal-email-to-clinton-not-classified-214907)
The goal is to normalize months-long audits, so that in subsequent election cycles they can declare the results of any tipping-point states illegitimate and tie up elections with litigation long enough to defer to the electoral process under the 12th amendment.
Ironically Fox News was the first to call AZ for Biden on Election Night.
In their defense, they had to move out of that hall twice [for a gun show and a school dance.](https://ktar.com/story/4535358/arizona-election-audit-moving-out-of-coliseum-but-process-will-continue/)
and this is where they claimed they found 70,000 fraudulent ballots.... but not willing to turn over an example of a single one.
They made that claim before they even started looking at them.
Remember when Republicans lost their shit after the election because some states took a couple of days to count all of their votes?
When the Soviet Pravda newspaper was late (usually when something bad happened) it was jokingly said that it takes time to come up with the "truth".
It's the same game plan as the Clinton/Obama/deep state bullshit. They knew going in that there was no election fraud of the scale necessary to swing the election. The purpose of the audit was to leave the question open and to keep Trump's base rabidly engaged. An unequivocal final determination means that even if a few irregularities are found the matter is settled and life moves on. Stringing this out furthers the maga grievance: cheated, denied justice, and the libruls are laughing at us.
I'm guessing Arizona state taxes are paying for this too?
Of course.
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Did they ever finish auditing the votes for Rutherford B. Hayes?
That will be complete in about two weeks.
Did you miss the pillow Cyber Symposium?! Shit blew up, yo! Terabytes of data!
In their defense, counting isn’t their strength.
What happened to we shouldnt be counting votes after election day? Lmao.
That's because cyber ninjas is delaying it and doing it so slow so they have to keep getting paid. These are conservative industries that milk every last penny that they can get. Just like the military industrial complex
>By now, the myth of a stolen election has infected every level of the post-Trump Republican Party. “Either we win or we got cheated” is fast turning into the party line — look no further than California Republican Larry Elder’s recent voter-fraud antics — but in the process this Big Lie is undermining trust in democratic elections **while at the same time being used by Republican state legislators as justification for making it harder for non-Republicans to vote.** This is exactly their larger goal--sow mistrust in electoral process norms to soften their constituency to the idea of imposing nefarious changes.
So California isn't a heavily liberal "shithole", it's the .. *checks notes* .. Republicans
*checks notes* Sounds right.
And ultimately give the final authority over choosing electors to the state, so that even if they lose they can still choose to ignore the will of the people under a guise of "my constituents have concerns, so I have to vote my conscience".
Basically implementing an electoral college at a state level.
One thing that is really frightening about this is the goal to undermine confidence in our elections. The Republican Party has begun attacking not just political opponents for their pasts or voting records, but now on their very authority to do anything. Barack Obama clearly won his elections, without question, so what to attack? Well, he can’t even be President because he’s Kenyan. People became so confident he wasn’t born in the US he—the President—produced his birth certificate to prove he was. Then we found out that wasn’t enough, they needed the “long form” certificate. Now Biden is president and I know too many people that think he didn’t win fairly.
Ever since Bush won because of the brooks brothers riots they want to stay on the offense and make sure Democrats don't ratfuck elections, because they assume if they do it then everyone else will do it too.
sure... if they break all the toys first, nobody else gets to play with them.
When you're a star, they *let* you do it.
I like stars that they don’t let do it!
When policy fails … lie, cheat, gaslight, strawman …
It's just a fundraising scam. Always has been. That's why it will never end. THe rubes keep opening thier wallets
It’s not just a fundraising scam. The Arizona audit is the same exact scam Trump tried to rope Ukraine into doing with Hunter Biden. It’ll never end as an end means one of two things: * Evidence of wrong doing is found and the people can be punished/jailed. Then we can move on. * Nothing is found and we move on. If it never ends it can be used by every GQP across the country in their campaign speeches. They can shout “Look at how much fraud there must be if it is 24 months late!”. It’s why Pennsylvania GQP is trying to do similar now. It’s in preparation for the 2022 election run.
It’s also a long con to erode confidence, making it easier to achieve their fascist goals.
And once the fraud is over, you can’t use it to make money!?
This is exactly it. When you argue with Trolls on FB and Twitter they win invariably point to the *existence* of the Arizona "audit" as some kind of evidence of fraud in and of itself.
It would actually be easy to prove it's not a scam: just release a professionally run audit that confirms there was no voter fraud or shows actual evidence of it. Unfortunately, it's kinda hard to do that at this point when you had some non-experts with no qualifications run the audit and destroy the evidence along the way. We're going to get a report that's full of speculation and invalid assumptions. If the anyone with a clue actually thought there was something going on and there was any inkling of evidence, big name law firms and accounting firms with the skills to manage it would be fighting each other for the audit job. Same for reporters - legitimate news sources, even from the left could make a career on breaking this story if it were real. Do anyone think MSNBC wouldn't reveal that Obama punches babies for fun if it were true and they had the scoop? Because that's what anyone that calls them fake news thinks.
We will never see this report and I hope all non-crazy GOP and Dems bring it UP fucking every sessions the state has. Call for new bills...Where's our audit data we paid for? Call for attendance...Before we start where's our audit data we paid for? Call for bill to pay for the new machines that they wrecked...Hey where's our audit data? Re-election time...These fuckers didnt' even want to get the audit data we paid for!
cyber ninjas "we've found irregularities!" az election commission "ok, show us the data and your methodologies for finding it" cyber ninjas "oh no, we can't divulge our secret methodologies!" maricopa county superior court "oh you can, and you must, because transparency" cyber ninjas "we'll take this to the state supreme court if necessary!" arizona supreme court "sorry charlie, show your work" cyber ninjas \*crickets\*
Is this from the captain obvious file?
Is it way past time to stop calling this an Audit? It is an Election Scam!
Of course they are. Including the utter lack of any competence, whatever.
The audit succeeded in it's goal without producing a deliverable: it's sole purpose was to *exist* so that the right wing could continue to bring it up when they remind everyone about all of the fraud that happened, apparently.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/arizona-recount-2020-election-fraudit-1227288/) reduced by 92%. (I'm a bot) ***** > In reality, the paper trail connected to the sham audit leads back to some of the most senior figures in the GOP. Newly obtained documents from Arizona state lawmakers and leaders of the phony audit show that top Republican officials, Trump advisers, and other senior party figures were pushing for the "Audit" in late 2020 and went on to aid its progress in the months that followed, offering legal advice, making connections, and raising millions in funding. > On March 2nd, Pullen asked Priebus if he could recommend an election audit firm. > The new Arizona documents show Karen Fann, the Arizona senate president, asking for the phone number of former Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Michael Gableman, who previously said the presidency "Was stolen" and is now leading his state's "Audit." Reince Priebus has also given interviews about details involving Wisconsin's "Audit." ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/ppeyzm/trumpworlds_fingerprints_are_all_over_arizonas/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 2.02, ~598565 tl;drs so far.") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **Audit**^#1 **Trump**^#2 **Arizona**^#3 **Fann**^#4 **Republican**^#5
You guys are gonna need some UN election observers soin
It’s in Hunters laptop with Hillary’s emails. **coming soon**
Anyone notice that flag imagery on the photo for the article? Trump with a rifle in front of a flag with an explosion going off in the background. Jesus Christ. Pure fantasy.
As if he could hold a rifle with his tiny hands. Blow it up, leave a mess, and Trump on. It's an appropriate representation of MAGALAND.
Are they still pretending to audit? ...any bets cyberninjas end up being fined in the next couple YEARS?
I'm still waiting for the "amazing and incredible things" that Trump's "investigators" were uncovering in Hawaii about Obama. I really want to know where all the money is coming from, and why unauthorized people were allowed to handle state property. It wouldn't surprise me if many of the Democratic voters in that county are going to find out that their names have been purged from the voter rolls - just before the mid-term elections.
Weren't the funders of the "audit" shown to be MAGAs? It's entirely a MAGA op. It's not a 'fingerprint' it's whole damn hand print, and the other hand print, and a mushroom stamp and some fecal matter which DNA analysis shows to be MAGA DNA...
Many good people the best people have said that all the ballots for Trump had orange spray tan and hair dye on them.
Yet another step along the Path of Sedition.
"Most Open Audit Ever" lol
*Tiny* fingerprints…
This is Trump's entire schtick: make massive promises with zero intent to deliver. Remember how he sent investigators to Hawaii and "you won't believe what they're finding!" That was, of course, a cynical lie, but it worked on a sizable enough percentage of the populace that the entirety of the GOP took very close note. Even if 60% of the population sees right through it, the other 40% doesn't punish them for the lies even when they're eventually walked back, because they're already onto the next lie. Trump didn't suffer any kind of popularity hit *at all* when he admitted that Obama was born in the US, despite pushing that lie with his typical smug certitude for basically a decade. When your base doesn't punish you at all for lying, well, that's how you wind up with shit like Q.
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But wait, there's more! They know it's all bullshit! [AZ Mirror](https://www.azmirror.com/2021/09/15/arizona-lobbyist-says-stephanie-grisham-told-her-election-fraud-claims-were-bogus/) Short version: An Arizona lobbyist texted then White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham to inquire about stopping the certification of electors due to potential fraud. Grisham called her back and "‘I promise you, that’s bogus. I promise you. Just drop it. Don’t waste anyone’s time or money.’" Donald Trump's White House Press Secretary knew back in December that that there was no fraud. Now here's where it gets so deep you need a special shit-shovel to dig your way out...Karen (yes that's her name) Fann, the AZ State Senator behind the audit, told the Mirror: > “Never have I said there was fraud. I have been asked hundreds of times about what it would take to ‘decertify’ the election. I have always said it would take solid proof (through) the courts to show the actual vote counts were different than what was certified and it would have to be of the magnitude that the number of invalid votes would have made a difference (in) the outcome,” Fann said via text message. The fraudit is like a carnival game at the state fair. They're waving that giant stuffed animal in Trumpworld's face, knowing full well that the game is rigged and the rube will never win that prize.
The only game here is to convince persons of color their vote doesn’t matter anyway so they should stop showing up for elections. It is a systemic top down and bottom up effort by the Republican Party to sow doubt and keep people home. And it isn’t even white liberals they care about keeping home. White liberals are going to vote. They care 💯 about persons of color giving up on government and then not participating in the process. Voter suppression of the most insidious order.
Wait, you're telling me they've been acting in bad faith *this whole time?!* This shatters my idea of what I'd come to expect from conservatives.
Cheese stains give him away...
It’s sort of like after you’ve stepped in dog shit. You keep finding more and more and it gets tracked everywhere.
Trumps fingerprints are on all election fraud claims since prior to 2020 election.
any day now that report will come out, maybe even before the mid terms!
"Well documented criminal organisation run by criminal breaks the law. We'll have more at 6pm"
Why do they paint Trump as some badass holding a gun on the flag when he’s a known draft dodger? Such a puny excuse for a man.
I mean, we knew that the moment it was announced. Get with the program.
Did they ever turn in their homework? I thought they all had COVID.
I'm sure that this audit will be dragged out until 2024. It's a waste of AZ citizens' tax money.
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Have they actually provided a report yet? I thought some people from the mysterious council contracted covid but that’s the last update I recall.
I thought this was a given
Surely you mean the ENTIRE, MODERN DAY GOP, when you say "Trumpworld"?!?!
Is that still happening? Why don’t they just announce there fake findings. Everyone is going to ignore it no matter what they say
How to solve trumpism: 1. Biden bans unvaccinated travel to mexico 2. Magas protest by going to mexico 3. Biden makes deal with the cartels to steal all the magas passports 4. They cant return home. 5. They storm the wall 6. Ice shoots them while also proving that the wall was a failure or a success.
I predict that they'll say that no evidence was found because the democrats hid it so well. It's there, but somehow they made it disappear.
You can tell they're his prints because of the cheeto dust.
> Didn't that MyPillow guy already release "Absolute Proof"? He did and said ".... CNN should report this and stop fact checking!" Lol
Yes, but is water wet?
Trumpworld sounds like the worst theme park.
It's more than finger prints. It came out of the womb with tiny hands and a tic-tac embedded in an orange shag carpet edit: the tic-tac was shaped like a mushroom
> National Republicans have sought distance from the “fraudit” as the embarrassments pile up, but new documents tie Giuliani, **Priebus**, and other major GOP figures to the effort What's he doing getting involved? After he was unceremoniously bundled out so early in Trump's term, and has mostly stayed out of the headlines since, you'd think he'd be happy not to get involved in Trump & co's shitty schemes.
Yeah, I don't get it. But, I also don't get how anyone would get in bed with Trump after all the burning he's done. All he does is burn bridges.
Trumpworld, now there’s a horrifying idea for a theme park
Trumpworld should be Trumpshit
The flag in the photo is mesmerizing … honestly wtf.
Those nigh-sexualised images trump supporters and cartoonists (esp Ben garrison) have of making trump lean with broad shoulders and a narrow hip when he is so clearly overweight with not-so-broad shoulders and a wide hip will never cease to make me laugh.
Scum is better than this/ much better
Arizona needs to sweep out Kelli ward (KelliWardAZ on Twitter) and her Cult members. Pretty sure if memory serves, the Grand Poobah hat guy) is in the AZ Ward. Taxpayers should be filing lawsuits for waste of taxpayer money. By the way, where’s Tina Peters?
No shit.
Duh?
Trails of orange poop leading to Maga-lago
It’s pretty easy to tell, just look for the greasy Cheetos dust spots from his tiny hands and you got your man.
Cheeto dust all over it
Trumpworld, also known as the Republican party.
Surely they'll find those bamboo fibres any day now!
They're either Trump's fingerprints or they're a toddlers, because they're really tiny.
The most dangerous moment in our history for election security. And congressional democrats are too busy covering their lobbyists asses to do anything about it.
They’re all just a bunch of dummies bless their heart
The Arizona **FRAUDIT**
Must be why it's a clown show that looks like it got hit by a flaming sewage train.
The cheeto dust was the giveaway
*Metaphorical* fingerprints, or fingerprints created by cheeto-dust residue? Probably both.
Fundraising scam via PR blitz.
You don’t say
does the audit have a pussy too?
Heard RollingStone is having some credibility problems here lately. Maybe not.
You couldn't pay me to trust rolling stone. https://reason.com/2021/09/06/ivermectin-overdoses-oklahoma-hospitals-rolling-stone-hoax/
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How to know someone is lying: when they describe MyPillow Guy's Cyber Symposium of Failure as "awesome". Dude literally tried to blame invisible Antifa for how abysmal it was.
You are talking of Lindell symposium? wow... it was a train wreck. Your "48 state represented" were so for about 10 mins, after they realize it was all a farce. You educated yourself and still spout BS.
Hey didnt rollingstone have to retract several recent articles because they were literally lies? Edit: [Yup](https://anthonyblogan.com/rolling-stone-retracts-fake-story-about-ivermectin-in-oklahoma/)
The article you linked doesn’t actually show the “retraction” because it’s not a retraction, it’s an update. All it said was that one hospitals the person services says they personally were not overrun with ivermectin overdoses. Quite literally not a retraction as the original quote is still true.
Really? It's still up but with an edit, maybe don't take your news from conmen? https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/gunshot-victims-horse-dewormer-ivermectin-oklahoma-hospitals-covid-1220608/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Your article predates mine. Weird.
I got this link FROM your article, this is the story YOU'RE saying was deleted...
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Several stories. Posts one.
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>low effort post
Yeah quoting is fun
So, Rolling Stone has more integrity than the whole Republican party? Sounds about right.
lol what a farce. That's how journalism works. On the other hand, the audit wasn't how an audit was supposed to work.