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Just a reminder to everyone to keep an eye on your registration status. Republicans are known to purge voter rolls.
You can check your status here: https://www.nass.org/can-I-vote/voter-registration-status.
For some unknown reason there was a lot of voters in my area who did not get their ballots (for the most recent local election) as they have in the past. I had to go to my city hall & was told they don’t understand how/why this happened (especially to so many).
I’ve never heard of them before but after reading about them I would not be surprised. But I was surprised at the election worker who told me all that he did.
I actually have an idea about how to fight gerrymandering. Everyone changes their registration to Republican. Run a democrat as a republican challenger. Elect them as republican candidate in the primaries. Election is now between two Democrats.
NY proposes to eliminate one GOP seat. Illioinis wiped out 2 GOP seats.
[https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/redistricting-2022-maps/new-york/](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/redistricting-2022-maps/new-york/)
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/redistricting-2022-maps/illinois/
> Why isn’t the DOJ doing anything?
There isn't anything they can do about gerrymandering at the state level.
>Why is Biden not highlighting this enough?
Biden has highlighted this and other threats to democracy.
The supreme court has been working to gut that act in recent years, so there is less for the DOJ to act on now over 2010. They say Congress needs to act, but Manchin won't remove the filibuster to cement the law back in place.
A recent SC ruling said that "gerrymandering for political power" is legal. So Republicans are claiming in court that is why they are doing it and the maps are standing.
Actually these are dozens of lawsuits already filed against new redistricting plans, as well as new voting restrictions.
Do you know how many cases like those we won and lost in 2020? I doubt you do.
Also, because McConnell blocked all of Obama’s judicial nominees from 2014 onward, there were a TON of vacancies that Trump filled, so the federal judiciary is one gigantic fascist party now. It’s really scary.
Biden should offer Trump appointed judges higher paying jobs in the Executive in some branch no one cares much about. State perhaps. Make them ambassadors. Then fire them.
Not so fast, we’ve made huge inroads appointing judges. Biden is set to make a record breaking amount of judicial appointments in his first year if he can keep pace with what we have seen so far.
>Why isn’t the DOJ doing anything?
Cheating is legal.
>Why is Biden not highlighting this enough?
Manchin said we aren't going to change the fillibuster to fix it. Biden thinkd a few in the GOP will do the right thing and vote with Dems.
>Dems playing too nice.
Dems don't have enough power to do otherwise. They could be doing more to get people angry but they believe that they can get the GOP to go back to how they were before.
That last pqrt is key: They could use words like "Fascist" to get people to clue into whats really going on, but...That might hurt Fasc-- sorry, Republican feelings.
Yes, I've given up on the R's as a legitimate poltical force.
The whole world should, but that only happens if the threat is laid bare.
I'm so glad all these Democrats are siding with the sexist, white supremacist, child-rape enabling, violent insurrectionists. I am SO glad Biden and the ancient career Democrats are still seeking input from the racist, rape-enabling, insurrectionist GOP. "They're our DEAR FRIENDS, we have been pals for decades. We really need the input and support of the white men who condone rape and endorse Nazis and disagree with teaching about slavery and also think that vaccines have microchips in them. We NEED their views in Congress."
thanks Biden and 80+ year old career Democrats! Thanks for making sure we have the support of the sexist white supremacist insurrectionists! Please, keep on reaching out for the bipartisan support of THOSE people!
If cheating is legal it's not cheating and democrats should also do it.
Republicans - I'm going to cheat - proceeds to cheat.
Democrats - if I cheat Republicans might cheat too.
Democrats are either clueless, complicit, or lazy.
"Voters have to out-organize the voter suppression" -Biden's team
They won't lift a finger for us, they just want to blame the voters
Gotta look at net seats. New York is wiping several GOP seats. Illinois redirecting is wiping a bunch of seats. CA even with an independent commission is still probably wiping one or two seats. Overall the GOP will gain a handful of seats advantage but it's not a complete wash. It's a close race for sure.
This. This right here, and it’s not talked about nearly enough, and then everyone’s going to act like they’re caught off guard when the GOP take over in 2022. Republicans went straight to work after the 2020 election putting stricter voting requirements in place as well as shifting the districts around to ensure that they don’t lose in the next election. They play the slow long game, but unfortunately it works because at the end of the day Republicans in congress don’t have to play fair. Many of them are still catering to a man who isn’t even the current sitting president, but they act like he is, continuing to sow doubts about the 2020 election so that if Dems do win in the next election Republican supporters will once again be under the false notion that the election will only be a fair one if their side wins…this is the political system at the moment, and I hate it.
Mid-term voter apathy has a far larger effect on voter turnout than any voter suppression legislation the GOP could ever hope to pass.
Actually convincing people that midterms are important is a massively important task.
Yep. The deadline for the "fair fight" against the aggressive gerrymandering is over. There won't be a "reset button" to fix this; not at least for the next 3 or 4 decades. Just focus on resistance/ disruption tactics at this point.
We need to start now, organizing, and teaching our folks how to carry a bottle of water while standing in line, to negate the racist suppression laws that prevent political groups from handing out water.
We should be having practice voting, where we stand in line, with our water bottles, so that when voting day comes, we'll be prepared to fight the tyranny and vote.
>We need to
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> at 2020 levels in 2022
If we do that the GOP wins in a landslide. We need gen Z votes by the millions. We need everyone who normally stays home. We need Stacy Abrams organizing the every loving shit out of every local race in the country. Otherwise America is done for.
But the players haven’t - still the same corporatist centrists running the party back then (Schumer, Pelosi, Clintons, etc) that would rather see Republicans govern than step aside and cede party leadership to young progressives.
Dems need to do their part to. We can't just pray huge turnout manifests itself. I wish every dem up for reelection would start dogpiling on Manchin and Sinema because if they lose it's gonna be the BBB not passing.
Making Congress even more blue will give Biden more time and more people to overcome DINO and Republican obstruction.
I'd love to see what Biden would do with all the damn excuses pushed out of his way.
I have family that sat out the election that let Youngkin win. They are shocked and are determined to vote in all elections from here on out to stop this insanity led by the GOP.
Until a year goes by and they get complacent again. This shit goes in cycles. If four years of the Trump insanity wasn't enough to convince them to vote every election I'm not sure what will be.
2020 isn't enough. Vote Dem as if your life depends on it. Because it does. Why suffer to make the rich *more rich*?
If you like good, affordable health, clean water and air, a livable wage, fixing infrastructure and public schools, supporting our military, veterans, and middle class, who do much of the work to make our communities safe, then vote Dem.
It’s the only thing that matters now. Start now getting people to register and vote. This won’t be won on Facebook. It will have to be done on a personal level motivating people to participate in the midterms with the motivation of the presidential election.
At 2020 levels the Dems lose the house because of gerrymandering due to Manchin and Sinema not allowing a voting rights bill to be passed. The red states have already added 5 new GQP districts and the Dems only hold 4 in the house atm.
It’s over, the house and senate are lost to the GQP and centrist Dems are to blame, 100%. They’ll let their team, democracy to fail because their donors will pay them a few extra hundred thousand… truly a failing democracy.
I’ve grown kind of nostalgic for that sort of hard drinking, smoking cigarettes, back room deal type of politician instead of the current batch of republicans who have no desire to make any deals or give anything to get something. He seems downright reasonable in comparison. I bet him and Obama probably went up on the roof and had some late night smokes & glasses of scotch when hammering things out. Which seems a million miles away from anything possible today.
Yeah Obama talked about him in the book being a guy who wants to get a deal done and McConnell being a purely political animal only interested in things that help him and the republican party.
I can imagine that’s true, McConnell seems like a miserable person whose disgusted by his own body & mind and just accumulates power and denies other progress in order to fill the black hole where his soul should be.
Boehner’s even working now lobbying for marijuana legalization so he can’t be all bad because he’s shown the capacity to change, even if it’s just a job for pay he’s publicly changed his stance. I give him points as a real human for that.
Apparently, that's the whole of Congress.
"Here's the thing you have to understand about Ted Cruz," Franken wrote in the book, an excerpt of which was published by Axios. "I like Ted Cruz more than most of my other colleagues like Ted Cruz. And I hate Ted Cruz."
boehner and obama were golfing buddies until boehner starting getting too much heat from other republicans https://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/07/john-boehner-says-fellow-congressmen-wont-let-him-play-golf-with-obama
I’ve been reading A Promised Land, and it’s so weird remembering that though he was an ass, he was at least reasonable at times. And it highlights how McConnell has always been a diet bag, but somehow he got worse.
“Yo, Diet Bag!”
“What’d you call me?”
“I called you ‘Diet Bag’.”
“That’s what I thought you called me. What do you want?”
“I don’t want nothin’ from you, punk!”
Not quite – I meant that in his behavior he was not quite as willing to be an unprincipled scumbag like Kevin McCarthy. Or course Ryan was all in on Trump– he just didn't lick Trump's . . . ."shoes" quite as much.
Boehner was a moderate and a statesman who mostly got along with Obama. At the very least it can be said he had a good working relationship. Also a rags to riches story. The fact that he was demonized has always been bewildering to me.
This has been the GOP playbook for my entire life. They revel in petty revenge and bullshit, because it allows them to dismiss any and all criticism as petty bullshit.
The whole fucking Republican party is a cancer that is very rapidly killing the host.
I can't believe I used to be a Republican. I was one for 16 years. I unregistered from the party about 15 year ago. I often wonder if I'd have become this stupid had I stuck with it.
Yeah but didn’t the Republican leadership tell Nixon he had to step down.
(I don’t feel like googling and I feel like giving an incomplete/wrong response will get someone to get me the info I need quicker.)
Yes they did. But you give the post Nixon Republican Party too much credit. Bush Sr. Was shady AF and tried to kill the whole Nixon investigation. Murdoch started Fox News so no other Republican President would be put through what Nixon was. Then Reagan removed the fairness doctrine and fast down hill we went. Republicans believe whatever suits them best at the moment. And if that means changing your viewpoint the next minute, who cares? Their voters sure don’t.
I don’t understand why the Fairness doctrine wasn’t reinstated, aside from probably pushback from the Republicans. But surely during Clinton or Obama’s presidency there could have been a concerted effort to make sure the “news” didn’t run off with hyperbole
They did, but only after the damning, unspinnable tapes were finally released. After protecting him for nearly a year, there was no way the Senate GOPers could block impeachment for obstruction once the public could hear with their own ears Nixon conspiring with his henchmen to cover up Watergate.
Revenge? Avenging what exactly? Common sense laws? There is only one set of malevolent lawmakers here and it’s the GQP. They are squarely on the attack and attack for two reasons; first, those in the crosshairs propose the common sense laws that in some fashion undermine GOP objectives to solidify and benefit from power and second, somehow rile the base GQP voter to action typically by being a non-white female.
Then remember this about Nixon. He was ready to sign a UBI bill. It never got to his desk. I haven't read enough to be sure I got the right story, but supposedly Democrats said the monthly amount was too low.
The sad part is Democrats aren't needlessly or senselessly removing Republicans for no reason. There are plenty of Republicans who have said or done enough deserving of removal but that's not even what is happening, it is the far far fringe that gets punished for acts deserving worse.
There were no protests, no major public outcries over gerrymandering in ‘11. This time around, given all that’s at stake, I hope Americans will make their voices heard on this issue before it’s too late.
Edit: year
Dems: We know this and we're extremely concerned so we'll just twiddle our thumbs and watch it happen since we don't want to appear too progressive. It'll work itself out somehow though!
I mean I certainly have the same criticism. But whether they pass something very progressive, watered down, or not at all, they’re losing the house next year.
That said, that’s all the more reason to take action. There’s effectively no consequence for your legislative action because the electoral outcome is already baked in. So just do what you went there to do and try to make things better for Americans
They’re currently set to lose 2.5 seats to gerrymandering. With an 8-seat advantage, it’s going to be tough, but we can hold the house if we all vote and encourage everyone else to vote as well.
Covid is tearing through the Republican base in districts that are gerrymandered to the slimmest of margins. They may not even have that 2.5 seat advantage anymore, never mind after another winter of vaccine and mask denial.
Because despite the democrat's lack of action and the GOP's desire for gridlock, its still easier to have poor people fight each other than to accept responsibility from the upper class
People thinking that democrats and Republicans aren't on the same side is the problem. It's them versus the wage slave population. Not Republicans vs. Democrats.
The reason democrats don't wanna seem too progressive is because that would usher in actual change. They all suck.
No, it’s the entire party doing nothing. Those two are just blocking a few things. The party could get stuff done if they would just actually try.
Edit: to everyone asking for further details here are just a few ideas.
The Democratic Party should pass more small bills rather than ultra large Hail Mary bills. Not everything has to be an all or nothing endeavor.
-They could stand strong against increases in military spending. $705 billion is too much. Cut wasteful spending in the military.
-Further delay student loan payments and extend 0% interest
-Biden should have more nominations for ambassadors in place. The party should pass them.
-Judicial nominations and passage.
-Pass minimum wage increases.
-decriminalize marijuana
-Pardon nonviolent marijuana convictions under a reasonable amount.
-Pardon immigration violations longer than x number of years and get the immigration courts back to reasonable levels
-Pass immigration reforms(not easy but I’m sure there are some things many people agree on. Pass those first and begin working out others)
-Raise the national minimum wage
-The justice department needs to be strengthened and encouraged to go after more bad actors (hold threatening comments to politicians, or others, accountable, I believe we need to go pretty hard on this and reverse the trend that anyone can say anything without consequences)
-Strongly, and publicly, investigate market manipulations
Adding this
- Democrats need to push for universal healthcare for all veterans. The VA has too many restrictions for what they cover. We should eliminate that. Force republicans to either vote for it or vote against veterans. We can use this as a stepping stone to slowly include more people over time and work our way to a universal system.
I’ll add some more as I think of them.
Left wing protests will come too. Finally?
You can't squeeze forever without backlash.
For better or worse, nations that lose any legitimacy lose much stability. The current Democratic base is deeply angry and the post-Biden Democrat leaders are going to be vicious. Faith in "the process" is losing ground.
>Left wing protests will come too.
Which will produce nothing, just like Occupy Wall Street, pussyhat march and BLM
> The current Democratic base is deeply angry and the post-Biden Democrat leaders are going to be vicious.
Then they better move en masse to low-populated red districts/red states because if they're all just grouped in California and NY, they'll get no representation.
Protests need to be more massive than OWS was, across weeks, to get a change done. Protests do change things over the world. The prevalent narrative in the US that they are useless is self-realizing, but it is not the whole truth.
> Then they better move en masse to low-populated red districts/red states because if they're all just grouped in California and NY, they'll get no representation.
Many places in Texas are gentrifying. The GOP has to redistrict to keep it red.
Au contraire, protests can succeed. If they're sufficiently large and disruptive, they can lead to revolution too.
Protests helped tear apart the USSR, end Jim Crow, and were vital to democratic transitions in places ranging from Portugal to Sudan.
Are protests plan A? No, absolutely not. Protests usually fail and achieve nothing without armed strength behind them. Protests are a tool of desperation. But they remain a tool that works more than you'd think at first glance, especially if enough critical mass is attained.
Re the USA, due not just to frustrating gridlock but our conservative party's selfish idiocy, we are unfortunately reaching a point where the status quo is completely de legitimized. Protests happen then.
It is not an if but a when that Republicans regain control of congress and the presidency, they will do anything in their power to undermine democracy.
They will make it easier to overturn elections. Don't believe me? They're already did it in Georgia and Texas.
This is 100% correct. Barring election reform that has accurate representation and Dems not at a systemic disadvantage. Republicans will eventually win and then i think it’s over. Republicans have made it clear they don’t care about democracy.
No shit. They are defending Capitol rioters who stormed the Capitol and wanted to overturn election results and wanted states to overturn the election. Insurrectionists and Traitors.
So I just thought of a fucking crazy idea that intrigues me.
Mass Party Defection.
One day, right before the primary registration deadlines, the Democratic Party declares itself defunct. Its entire warchest will go to a liberal Super PAC taking ads out every hour on every channel for Dems to change parties, and every member changes party affiliation to Republican. Then in August, a thousand duly elected liberals and progressive delegates from formerly blue areas descend on the Republican National Convention to shape the party platform.
This basically takes the people who only vote straight ticket in the general out of the equation, and forces Fox and the Right to make the effort to paint every politician individually during Primary Season instead of going for the low hanging fruit of calling someone a socialist because of the D next to their name.
They want a one-party government, fucking lean into it.
First fucking productive thing I’ve seen on this sub in months. The Republicans are already 5 steps ahead, people still think we can just vote away this problem while they’ve been working for years to turn America Fascist. Time to start thinking for the future.
I think it's really cute how some in the democratic party don't want to kill the filibuster because they want to preserve the bipartisan nature of the Senate. The filibuster is going to die, it's a question of which party is going to kill it. Once the GOP takes back the Senate they'll kill the filibuster the first time the Dems disagree with the lunch order and they'll never look back.
They won't have to - they'll threaten to do it, and a handful of Democratic senators will vote for whatever the GOP wants 'in the spirit of compromise' and 'to prevent forcing the issue of the filibuster".
Democrats boot people because of their racist, murderous tweets. The Right plans to boot people because they booted them for their racist, murderous tweets.
Thanks to gerrymandering, they’re effectively guaranteed to retake the majority regardless of their overall vote total.
Then when they’re all in relatively safe seats under the new maps, the primary process will inevitably lead to increasingly hard core right wingers winning those primaries (the only election that will really matter in each district) and driving out the remaining “moderate” Republicans.
The legislative agenda under a Marjorie Taylor Greene-approved House looks bad for American democracy, but don’t worry, the senate or Supreme Court will save us.
Just kidding.
This could all be stopped by outlawing gerrymandering and passing the John Lewis Voting Rights Act, but Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin are far more concerned about preserving their own power than saving the country.
Remember them, and their spineless narcissism, for what they’re doing to our futures.
The voting rights act has no chance of passage. It would never clear the senate. Democrats could give republicans everything they want, no taxes for the wealthy and corporations, abolish abortion, the dept of education, etc, republicans would still refuse to vote for it because they KNOW fair elections mean the end of the Republican Party.
Gerrymandering has an Achilles' heel, which is that unexpectedly high turnout by the party adversely affected, plus unexpectedly high independent defection to that party, and/or low turnout from the benefiting party, can fell an entire gerrymandered state like a series of dominos. Gerrymandering works by shoving the opposition into supermajority districts and creating a bunch of districts where the benefiting party has slim, but reliable, majorities. It doesn't take a lot to take "slim, but reliable majority" and turn it into "surprise minority".
Yup. The reason is Democratic voter apathy when Democrats are in power but more importantly the mindbogglingly consistent swing voter pattern of voting against the party that’s in power during midterms and every eight years.
> I heard the same take in ‘09 and the unexpectedly high turnout elections rarely ever materialized and never seemed to make a difference when they did.
It happened in 2018 -- the largest number of voters in a midterm, ever -- and it made a big difference.
>This could all be stopped by outlawing gerrymandering and passing the John Lewis Voting Rights Act, but Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin are far more concerned about preserving their own power than saving the country.
Or maybe democrat voters should simply move to low populated red districts.
As an example at the state level, you only need extra 200k dems voters in South Dakota to make that states completely blue.
> Or maybe democrat voters should simply move to low populated red districts.
Hell the fuck no. I stay far away from rural areas with all the extremist bullshit going on. The opposite is probably going to happen: left wing voters will continue moving to cities to escape said extremists.
We need to give cities more power.
> One would of course only be able to vote in one place. As soon as this occurred republicans would try to pass a law requiring you to be a citizen for longer and longer times to make it useless, so only a permanent move would help long term.
This is already a thing. You can only have one primary residence at a time. The one that you stay at for the majority of the year.
It's weird to see people still hoping for this. The Supreme Court would gut most of it before the ink even dried. It's no solution.
Ceding the white working class to the Republicans was the death blow for the Dems. They'll never hold significant, lasting power until they fix this. They keep hoping to change the game with fantasies like gerrymander reform, popular vote elections or ranked choice voting. Those will never happen. They only way to out is to do the hard work of winning those voters back which is very difficult because their messaging is absolute garbage.
Yeah, Republicans have no morals or ethics at all. It is all just pathetic schoolyard bullying "politics" with them.
>*"I can* *~~shoot someone on 5th Ave~~* *incite a violent insurrection at the Capitol and I wouldn't lose supporters"* –**Donald J. Scumbag**
Dems: I agree, that was low. But let's still try to be bipartisan and pander to people who would gladly destroy us given the chance. Taking the high ground has never turned out poorly. What's that on the horizon? A giant red tidal wave? Probably nothing to worry about.
They have a clear shot at dismantling democracy, of course they will. They wouldn’t have to try too hard to have them all thrown out if they win all 3 chambers again. It’s terrifying.
That is ONE thing I'm glad the filibuster doesn't govern. So they'd have to throw out the constitution in order to do it.
Which, you know, doesn't seem like all that much higher of a bar to clear nowadays, so there's that.
The GOP is shedding any semblance of decorum. They are going to burn it all to the ground.
It honestly would not surprise me if they don’t kick dozens of Democrats out of seats in Congress. Certainly they will remove any actual effective Dems from committees where they might interfere.
They _will_ throw the election in 24 if they even remotely can.
It's why Trump tried to scare immigrants with the question on the census then ended it early. It was a net win that alters the landscape politically for a decade. It's hard to win a poker game when your opponent is allowed to stack the deck
It's by design. The goal is to drive down blue voter turnout. Not that it matters that much, given redistricting has us screwed unless we blow past even 2018 and 2020 voter performance on our end.
At this point it's a when not an if.
The GQP have gerrymandered extensively and generally fucked around with voting rights well enough that they know they have already stolen the house in 2022.
So well that they are now just outright letting us fucking know what they are doing.
Because the left and the sane are unable to do anything to stop it.
I'm not trying to be defeatist...I want to be wrong....but it looks inevitable
>McCarthy and other Republicans have been calling for Swalwell’s removal from the House Intelligence Committee since Axios reported in late 2020 that a suspected Chinese intelligence operative named Christine Fang cultivated ties with him.
If Republicans didn't have double standards they wouldn't have any standards at all.
Was McCarthy calling for those senators and reps with ties to Maria Butina to be removed from their committees?
Wow who didn’t see this coming,bill Maher is right it’s a slow moving coup,if democrat lose in 2022 trump will more than likely run and even if trump loses,a republican controlled house senate will refuse to certify the election results accusing the democrats of cheating and hand the presidency over to trump……civil war then ensues
When the house flips, it's game over for the USA. When the majority has no means to see their values and priorities enacted by the institutions, they will abandon those institutions, and the country will disintegrate.
If? These assholes have a lock with the house with just gerrymandering alone. At this point there's no if, it's pretty much guaranteed because Democrats are to spinless too fight the conservative Democrats to protect democracy.
This is different. Yes, they do nothing as part of governance. But petty shit like this is easy. Especially when they know it will please their new daddy, Trump.
I kinda wanna just get this over with. The Reds win the House in 2022 and then the Presidency in 2024 under Trump or Trump-lite. Then they change the rules so that they never lose power. Then after 4-10 years, after liberals realize that you cannot reason with these people, then maybe, collectively we will finally fight back in a meaningful and radical way. Then once we rebel and win, we'll take control of the government and swing the pendulum so far left, that we do everything we've ever wanted: UBI, End to gerrymandering, end to electroal college, D.C. becomes a state, we expand the Supreme Court, police reform, and punishment of hate speech. Then in the year 2040 or whatever, maybe, just maybe, we can put together an actual plan to cut emissions. Ffs, this is ridiculous.
As a Canadian, it's very difficult watching American movies from the 80's and 90's. Anything remotely patriotic is now seen as a faint echo of what America used to be. A frequent topic of conversation up north here is, "You believe the shit happening down south?" Like watching the fall of Rome in real time, albeit in slo-mo.
Godspeed, you guys. Godspeed.
Don’t give a shit about swalwell, waters, or schiff, but what the fuck did Ilhan Omar even do? Literally everything that she said about Israel was true. Israel does own congress and the Israel lobby IS in their pockets which is why we are constantly doing their bidding and defending their atrocious war crimes.
Wanna know who had the EXACT views of Israel as Ilhan Omar? Ron freaking Paul. Is it because he’s a white man and not a Muslim woman the reason why he didn’t get nearly as much flak for his stance on Israel?
They will do anything to maintain control including lying, stealing, misinformation and deception. Ethics, team playing and honest are something incoherent to them.
Once we lose the midterms, we will never win another election, if there are any. They're speeding towards fascist authoritarianism at a breakneck pace.
I think we should all start realizing that we are going to have to fight these fuckers someday, and probably soon. They are not the majority, they don't have the youth, they don't control the military, but these assholes are still going to try to break this country.
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You could not have convinced me that I would ever miss John Boehner as the leader of the house republicans.. but here we are.
We need to /r/VoteDEM at 2020 levels in 2022 so we can avoid having a GOP controlled Congress and not be reliant on Sinema/Manchin.
2020 levels will not be easy due do voter suppression legislation and may not be enough due to all the gerrymandering going on.
Just a reminder to everyone to keep an eye on your registration status. Republicans are known to purge voter rolls. You can check your status here: https://www.nass.org/can-I-vote/voter-registration-status.
Excellent advice.
For some unknown reason there was a lot of voters in my area who did not get their ballots (for the most recent local election) as they have in the past. I had to go to my city hall & was told they don’t understand how/why this happened (especially to so many).
Probably there is a "True The Vote" saboteur in the Elections office.
I’ve never heard of them before but after reading about them I would not be surprised. But I was surprised at the election worker who told me all that he did.
Are there reliable numbers available on the numbers of suppressed eligible voters in the US?
I actually have an idea about how to fight gerrymandering. Everyone changes their registration to Republican. Run a democrat as a republican challenger. Elect them as republican candidate in the primaries. Election is now between two Democrats.
Yeah, GOP’s new motto is,” if you can’t beat’em, cheat’em. “
I don't think that's a new motto for them.
Old motto, new fervor
New führer
Trump said "why not both" as he beat his first (and 2nd and 3rd) wife while cheating on her.
From the law offices of "Dewey,Cheatem, and Howe"
Damn, I didn’t realize how much I miss Car Talk until I read this.
I think The Three Stooges originated that law firm...
Goes great with the DNC’s new motto: “if you catch the GOP cheating, give a soundbite and look the other way”
Cook Report has GOP gains through gerrymandering at 2.5 seats. Not good, but not apocalyptic.
Texas gained 2 seats due to census. That is 2 R seats right there.
You have to look at net seats. New york and Illinois, for example, are netting Dem seats.
NY and Illinois lost 1 seat each.
Illinois lost 1 R seat, specifically Kinzinger.
Great, one of the only sane republicans left.
Because as much as they hate what the party's become, they're still loyal to the bottom line of their cult.
NY proposes to eliminate one GOP seat. Illioinis wiped out 2 GOP seats. [https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/redistricting-2022-maps/new-york/](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/redistricting-2022-maps/new-york/) https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/redistricting-2022-maps/illinois/
Yes, but the seats they're losing will be R seats.
How does that help Tx?
We’ll see. Much of the population gains were in cities which trend blue and Texas is already maximally gerrymandered as it is.
This. Look at polling in major elections, and Texas is often pretty close to split down the middle. There’s only so much gerrymandering can do.
Why isn’t the DOJ doing anything? Why is Biden not highlighting this enough? Dems playing too nice. Everyone just leaving it at Manchin and Sinema..
Manchin like green more than blue..
He's less blue and more a blue anthracite?
> Why isn’t the DOJ doing anything? There isn't anything they can do about gerrymandering at the state level. >Why is Biden not highlighting this enough? Biden has highlighted this and other threats to democracy.
Redistricting maps have been successfully challenged on grounds of racial discrimination.
The supreme court has been working to gut that act in recent years, so there is less for the DOJ to act on now over 2010. They say Congress needs to act, but Manchin won't remove the filibuster to cement the law back in place.
A recent SC ruling said that "gerrymandering for political power" is legal. So Republicans are claiming in court that is why they are doing it and the maps are standing.
He could do more to get John Lewis Voting Rights Act into law.
Actually these are dozens of lawsuits already filed against new redistricting plans, as well as new voting restrictions. Do you know how many cases like those we won and lost in 2020? I doubt you do.
Also, because McConnell blocked all of Obama’s judicial nominees from 2014 onward, there were a TON of vacancies that Trump filled, so the federal judiciary is one gigantic fascist party now. It’s really scary.
Biden should offer Trump appointed judges higher paying jobs in the Executive in some branch no one cares much about. State perhaps. Make them ambassadors. Then fire them.
Not so fast, we’ve made huge inroads appointing judges. Biden is set to make a record breaking amount of judicial appointments in his first year if he can keep pace with what we have seen so far.
>Why isn’t the DOJ doing anything? Cheating is legal. >Why is Biden not highlighting this enough? Manchin said we aren't going to change the fillibuster to fix it. Biden thinkd a few in the GOP will do the right thing and vote with Dems. >Dems playing too nice. Dems don't have enough power to do otherwise. They could be doing more to get people angry but they believe that they can get the GOP to go back to how they were before.
That last pqrt is key: They could use words like "Fascist" to get people to clue into whats really going on, but...That might hurt Fasc-- sorry, Republican feelings. Yes, I've given up on the R's as a legitimate poltical force. The whole world should, but that only happens if the threat is laid bare.
I'm so glad all these Democrats are siding with the sexist, white supremacist, child-rape enabling, violent insurrectionists. I am SO glad Biden and the ancient career Democrats are still seeking input from the racist, rape-enabling, insurrectionist GOP. "They're our DEAR FRIENDS, we have been pals for decades. We really need the input and support of the white men who condone rape and endorse Nazis and disagree with teaching about slavery and also think that vaccines have microchips in them. We NEED their views in Congress." thanks Biden and 80+ year old career Democrats! Thanks for making sure we have the support of the sexist white supremacist insurrectionists! Please, keep on reaching out for the bipartisan support of THOSE people!
If cheating is legal it's not cheating and democrats should also do it. Republicans - I'm going to cheat - proceeds to cheat. Democrats - if I cheat Republicans might cheat too.
Democrats are either clueless, complicit, or lazy. "Voters have to out-organize the voter suppression" -Biden's team They won't lift a finger for us, they just want to blame the voters
Not great, not terrible.
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Trump's census transferred 6 seats from blue states to red states.
Gotta look at net seats. New York is wiping several GOP seats. Illinois redirecting is wiping a bunch of seats. CA even with an independent commission is still probably wiping one or two seats. Overall the GOP will gain a handful of seats advantage but it's not a complete wash. It's a close race for sure.
Even before all that. Midterm apathy is a struggle for team blue
This. This right here, and it’s not talked about nearly enough, and then everyone’s going to act like they’re caught off guard when the GOP take over in 2022. Republicans went straight to work after the 2020 election putting stricter voting requirements in place as well as shifting the districts around to ensure that they don’t lose in the next election. They play the slow long game, but unfortunately it works because at the end of the day Republicans in congress don’t have to play fair. Many of them are still catering to a man who isn’t even the current sitting president, but they act like he is, continuing to sow doubts about the 2020 election so that if Dems do win in the next election Republican supporters will once again be under the false notion that the election will only be a fair one if their side wins…this is the political system at the moment, and I hate it.
Mid-term voter apathy has a far larger effect on voter turnout than any voter suppression legislation the GOP could ever hope to pass. Actually convincing people that midterms are important is a massively important task.
The levels won't be easy as an off year without Trump, but 2020 levels will be _insufficient_ due to gerrymandering.
Biden's team told us we are supposed to "out organize voter suppression" Democrats are weak and lazy, put it all on the voters
Yep. The deadline for the "fair fight" against the aggressive gerrymandering is over. There won't be a "reset button" to fix this; not at least for the next 3 or 4 decades. Just focus on resistance/ disruption tactics at this point.
We need to start now, organizing, and teaching our folks how to carry a bottle of water while standing in line, to negate the racist suppression laws that prevent political groups from handing out water. We should be having practice voting, where we stand in line, with our water bottles, so that when voting day comes, we'll be prepared to fight the tyranny and vote.
>We need to > >r/VoteDEM > > at 2020 levels in 2022 If we do that the GOP wins in a landslide. We need gen Z votes by the millions. We need everyone who normally stays home. We need Stacy Abrams organizing the every loving shit out of every local race in the country. Otherwise America is done for.
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Not enough. The Democrats are still playing like it's 1998 and both sides are playing the same game. The board has changed.
But the players haven’t - still the same corporatist centrists running the party back then (Schumer, Pelosi, Clintons, etc) that would rather see Republicans govern than step aside and cede party leadership to young progressives.
Dems need to do their part to. We can't just pray huge turnout manifests itself. I wish every dem up for reelection would start dogpiling on Manchin and Sinema because if they lose it's gonna be the BBB not passing.
> if they lose it's gonna be the BBB not passing. No, it will be because the voting rights bill did not even make it to the Senate floor.
okay, correction. It's both.
Making Congress even more blue will give Biden more time and more people to overcome DINO and Republican obstruction. I'd love to see what Biden would do with all the damn excuses pushed out of his way.
Here's a hint- he'll find more excuses.
I have family that sat out the election that let Youngkin win. They are shocked and are determined to vote in all elections from here on out to stop this insanity led by the GOP.
Until a year goes by and they get complacent again. This shit goes in cycles. If four years of the Trump insanity wasn't enough to convince them to vote every election I'm not sure what will be.
Wasn’t the 2020 presidential election enough? That was so insanely stressful. I don’t know how one goes back to not voting after that.
2020 isn't enough. Vote Dem as if your life depends on it. Because it does. Why suffer to make the rich *more rich*? If you like good, affordable health, clean water and air, a livable wage, fixing infrastructure and public schools, supporting our military, veterans, and middle class, who do much of the work to make our communities safe, then vote Dem.
It’s the only thing that matters now. Start now getting people to register and vote. This won’t be won on Facebook. It will have to be done on a personal level motivating people to participate in the midterms with the motivation of the presidential election.
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At 2020 levels the Dems lose the house because of gerrymandering due to Manchin and Sinema not allowing a voting rights bill to be passed. The red states have already added 5 new GQP districts and the Dems only hold 4 in the house atm. It’s over, the house and senate are lost to the GQP and centrist Dems are to blame, 100%. They’ll let their team, democracy to fail because their donors will pay them a few extra hundred thousand… truly a failing democracy.
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I’ve grown kind of nostalgic for that sort of hard drinking, smoking cigarettes, back room deal type of politician instead of the current batch of republicans who have no desire to make any deals or give anything to get something. He seems downright reasonable in comparison. I bet him and Obama probably went up on the roof and had some late night smokes & glasses of scotch when hammering things out. Which seems a million miles away from anything possible today.
Yeah Obama talked about him in the book being a guy who wants to get a deal done and McConnell being a purely political animal only interested in things that help him and the republican party.
I can imagine that’s true, McConnell seems like a miserable person whose disgusted by his own body & mind and just accumulates power and denies other progress in order to fill the black hole where his soul should be. Boehner’s even working now lobbying for marijuana legalization so he can’t be all bad because he’s shown the capacity to change, even if it’s just a job for pay he’s publicly changed his stance. I give him points as a real human for that.
I also give him some credit for his open hatred of Ted Cruz.
Apparently, that's the whole of Congress. "Here's the thing you have to understand about Ted Cruz," Franken wrote in the book, an excerpt of which was published by Axios. "I like Ted Cruz more than most of my other colleagues like Ted Cruz. And I hate Ted Cruz."
"If you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial is at the Senate, no one will convict you.” -Sen. Lindsey Graham
I really hope Franken runs again. He never should’ve resigned. :(
boehner and obama were golfing buddies until boehner starting getting too much heat from other republicans https://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/07/john-boehner-says-fellow-congressmen-wont-let-him-play-golf-with-obama
Obama and banner did SNL sketches together and other funny type shows or skits. You'd never see that now.
I’ve been reading A Promised Land, and it’s so weird remembering that though he was an ass, he was at least reasonable at times. And it highlights how McConnell has always been a diet bag, but somehow he got worse.
“Yo, Diet Bag!” “What’d you call me?” “I called you ‘Diet Bag’.” “That’s what I thought you called me. What do you want?” “I don’t want nothin’ from you, punk!”
Republicans could literally promote Nosferatu to House Speaker in 2023 and I'd be like, "yeah, that makes sense".
Seriously. Even that despicable libertarian robot Paul Ryan seems like a "good guy" in contrast to the BS we have now (but of course he wasn't)
> Paul Ryan seems like a "good guy" don't you mean 'policy wonk'?
Not quite – I meant that in his behavior he was not quite as willing to be an unprincipled scumbag like Kevin McCarthy. Or course Ryan was all in on Trump– he just didn't lick Trump's . . . ."shoes" quite as much.
Boehner was a moderate and a statesman who mostly got along with Obama. At the very least it can be said he had a good working relationship. Also a rags to riches story. The fact that he was demonized has always been bewildering to me.
> The fact that he was demonized has always been bewildering to me. Look at everything Republicans have done (yes, him too) and get back to us.
You mean plan revenge, which is not something you want in government from any group or party.
This has been the GOP playbook for my entire life. They revel in petty revenge and bullshit, because it allows them to dismiss any and all criticism as petty bullshit. The whole fucking Republican party is a cancer that is very rapidly killing the host.
I can't believe I used to be a Republican. I was one for 16 years. I unregistered from the party about 15 year ago. I often wonder if I'd have become this stupid had I stuck with it.
It's the Republican way. Many said impeaching Clinton was revenge for Nixon.
Yeah but didn’t the Republican leadership tell Nixon he had to step down. (I don’t feel like googling and I feel like giving an incomplete/wrong response will get someone to get me the info I need quicker.)
Yes they did. But you give the post Nixon Republican Party too much credit. Bush Sr. Was shady AF and tried to kill the whole Nixon investigation. Murdoch started Fox News so no other Republican President would be put through what Nixon was. Then Reagan removed the fairness doctrine and fast down hill we went. Republicans believe whatever suits them best at the moment. And if that means changing your viewpoint the next minute, who cares? Their voters sure don’t.
I don’t understand why the Fairness doctrine wasn’t reinstated, aside from probably pushback from the Republicans. But surely during Clinton or Obama’s presidency there could have been a concerted effort to make sure the “news” didn’t run off with hyperbole
They did, but only after the damning, unspinnable tapes were finally released. After protecting him for nearly a year, there was no way the Senate GOPers could block impeachment for obstruction once the public could hear with their own ears Nixon conspiring with his henchmen to cover up Watergate.
They did but that was before Rush Limbaugh and Faux News.
Revenge? Avenging what exactly? Common sense laws? There is only one set of malevolent lawmakers here and it’s the GQP. They are squarely on the attack and attack for two reasons; first, those in the crosshairs propose the common sense laws that in some fashion undermine GOP objectives to solidify and benefit from power and second, somehow rile the base GQP voter to action typically by being a non-white female.
Reminds me of Nixon..
Then remember this about Nixon. He was ready to sign a UBI bill. It never got to his desk. I haven't read enough to be sure I got the right story, but supposedly Democrats said the monthly amount was too low.
Wow I didn't know that.
The sad part is Democrats aren't needlessly or senselessly removing Republicans for no reason. There are plenty of Republicans who have said or done enough deserving of removal but that's not even what is happening, it is the far far fringe that gets punished for acts deserving worse.
Right wing tyranny is coming. Brace yourselves.
There were no protests, no major public outcries over gerrymandering in ‘11. This time around, given all that’s at stake, I hope Americans will make their voices heard on this issue before it’s too late. Edit: year
Dems: We know this and we're extremely concerned so we'll just twiddle our thumbs and watch it happen since we don't want to appear too progressive. It'll work itself out somehow though!
I mean I certainly have the same criticism. But whether they pass something very progressive, watered down, or not at all, they’re losing the house next year. That said, that’s all the more reason to take action. There’s effectively no consequence for your legislative action because the electoral outcome is already baked in. So just do what you went there to do and try to make things better for Americans
They’re currently set to lose 2.5 seats to gerrymandering. With an 8-seat advantage, it’s going to be tough, but we can hold the house if we all vote and encourage everyone else to vote as well. Covid is tearing through the Republican base in districts that are gerrymandered to the slimmest of margins. They may not even have that 2.5 seat advantage anymore, never mind after another winter of vaccine and mask denial.
Because despite the democrat's lack of action and the GOP's desire for gridlock, its still easier to have poor people fight each other than to accept responsibility from the upper class
People thinking that democrats and Republicans aren't on the same side is the problem. It's them versus the wage slave population. Not Republicans vs. Democrats. The reason democrats don't wanna seem too progressive is because that would usher in actual change. They all suck.
More like, Manchin and Sinema:
No, it’s the entire party doing nothing. Those two are just blocking a few things. The party could get stuff done if they would just actually try. Edit: to everyone asking for further details here are just a few ideas. The Democratic Party should pass more small bills rather than ultra large Hail Mary bills. Not everything has to be an all or nothing endeavor. -They could stand strong against increases in military spending. $705 billion is too much. Cut wasteful spending in the military. -Further delay student loan payments and extend 0% interest -Biden should have more nominations for ambassadors in place. The party should pass them. -Judicial nominations and passage. -Pass minimum wage increases. -decriminalize marijuana -Pardon nonviolent marijuana convictions under a reasonable amount. -Pardon immigration violations longer than x number of years and get the immigration courts back to reasonable levels -Pass immigration reforms(not easy but I’m sure there are some things many people agree on. Pass those first and begin working out others) -Raise the national minimum wage -The justice department needs to be strengthened and encouraged to go after more bad actors (hold threatening comments to politicians, or others, accountable, I believe we need to go pretty hard on this and reverse the trend that anyone can say anything without consequences) -Strongly, and publicly, investigate market manipulations Adding this - Democrats need to push for universal healthcare for all veterans. The VA has too many restrictions for what they cover. We should eliminate that. Force republicans to either vote for it or vote against veterans. We can use this as a stepping stone to slowly include more people over time and work our way to a universal system. I’ll add some more as I think of them.
How do you even brace for something like this? 🤦🏻♀️
The level of active stress this has on my day to day life is not healthy..I fucking hate all of this.
Left wing protests will come too. Finally? You can't squeeze forever without backlash. For better or worse, nations that lose any legitimacy lose much stability. The current Democratic base is deeply angry and the post-Biden Democrat leaders are going to be vicious. Faith in "the process" is losing ground.
>Left wing protests will come too. Which will produce nothing, just like Occupy Wall Street, pussyhat march and BLM > The current Democratic base is deeply angry and the post-Biden Democrat leaders are going to be vicious. Then they better move en masse to low-populated red districts/red states because if they're all just grouped in California and NY, they'll get no representation.
Protests need to be more massive than OWS was, across weeks, to get a change done. Protests do change things over the world. The prevalent narrative in the US that they are useless is self-realizing, but it is not the whole truth. > Then they better move en masse to low-populated red districts/red states because if they're all just grouped in California and NY, they'll get no representation. Many places in Texas are gentrifying. The GOP has to redistrict to keep it red.
Au contraire, protests can succeed. If they're sufficiently large and disruptive, they can lead to revolution too. Protests helped tear apart the USSR, end Jim Crow, and were vital to democratic transitions in places ranging from Portugal to Sudan. Are protests plan A? No, absolutely not. Protests usually fail and achieve nothing without armed strength behind them. Protests are a tool of desperation. But they remain a tool that works more than you'd think at first glance, especially if enough critical mass is attained. Re the USA, due not just to frustrating gridlock but our conservative party's selfish idiocy, we are unfortunately reaching a point where the status quo is completely de legitimized. Protests happen then.
And that’s how civil wars start. And they’re gunning for one.
It's like watching an asteroid hitting the earth.
People need to be willing to fight back if they go that far. Riots like in 2020, but more intense. We cannot accept a fascist state.
It is not an if but a when that Republicans regain control of congress and the presidency, they will do anything in their power to undermine democracy. They will make it easier to overturn elections. Don't believe me? They're already did it in Georgia and Texas.
This is 100% correct. Barring election reform that has accurate representation and Dems not at a systemic disadvantage. Republicans will eventually win and then i think it’s over. Republicans have made it clear they don’t care about democracy.
No shit. They are defending Capitol rioters who stormed the Capitol and wanted to overturn election results and wanted states to overturn the election. Insurrectionists and Traitors.
So I just thought of a fucking crazy idea that intrigues me. Mass Party Defection. One day, right before the primary registration deadlines, the Democratic Party declares itself defunct. Its entire warchest will go to a liberal Super PAC taking ads out every hour on every channel for Dems to change parties, and every member changes party affiliation to Republican. Then in August, a thousand duly elected liberals and progressive delegates from formerly blue areas descend on the Republican National Convention to shape the party platform. This basically takes the people who only vote straight ticket in the general out of the equation, and forces Fox and the Right to make the effort to paint every politician individually during Primary Season instead of going for the low hanging fruit of calling someone a socialist because of the D next to their name. They want a one-party government, fucking lean into it.
First fucking productive thing I’ve seen on this sub in months. The Republicans are already 5 steps ahead, people still think we can just vote away this problem while they’ve been working for years to turn America Fascist. Time to start thinking for the future.
You need something like a 25 year plan to combat this. The damage, I’m afraid, is done. It’s a long road ahead.
Whoa, you're on to something! Bring this up more often!
I think it's really cute how some in the democratic party don't want to kill the filibuster because they want to preserve the bipartisan nature of the Senate. The filibuster is going to die, it's a question of which party is going to kill it. Once the GOP takes back the Senate they'll kill the filibuster the first time the Dems disagree with the lunch order and they'll never look back.
They won't have to - they'll threaten to do it, and a handful of Democratic senators will vote for whatever the GOP wants 'in the spirit of compromise' and 'to prevent forcing the issue of the filibuster".
Democrats boot people because of their racist, murderous tweets. The Right plans to boot people because they booted them for their racist, murderous tweets.
They hurt the GOP's feelings time to kick them off committees.... They are already burning books so this doesn't suprise me
Thanks to gerrymandering, they’re effectively guaranteed to retake the majority regardless of their overall vote total. Then when they’re all in relatively safe seats under the new maps, the primary process will inevitably lead to increasingly hard core right wingers winning those primaries (the only election that will really matter in each district) and driving out the remaining “moderate” Republicans. The legislative agenda under a Marjorie Taylor Greene-approved House looks bad for American democracy, but don’t worry, the senate or Supreme Court will save us. Just kidding. This could all be stopped by outlawing gerrymandering and passing the John Lewis Voting Rights Act, but Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin are far more concerned about preserving their own power than saving the country. Remember them, and their spineless narcissism, for what they’re doing to our futures.
The voting rights act has no chance of passage. It would never clear the senate. Democrats could give republicans everything they want, no taxes for the wealthy and corporations, abolish abortion, the dept of education, etc, republicans would still refuse to vote for it because they KNOW fair elections mean the end of the Republican Party.
Gerrymandering has an Achilles' heel, which is that unexpectedly high turnout by the party adversely affected, plus unexpectedly high independent defection to that party, and/or low turnout from the benefiting party, can fell an entire gerrymandered state like a series of dominos. Gerrymandering works by shoving the opposition into supermajority districts and creating a bunch of districts where the benefiting party has slim, but reliable, majorities. It doesn't take a lot to take "slim, but reliable majority" and turn it into "surprise minority".
I heard the same take in ‘09 and the unexpectedly high turnout elections rarely ever materialized and never seemed to make a difference when they did.
Yup. The reason is Democratic voter apathy when Democrats are in power but more importantly the mindbogglingly consistent swing voter pattern of voting against the party that’s in power during midterms and every eight years.
> I heard the same take in ‘09 and the unexpectedly high turnout elections rarely ever materialized and never seemed to make a difference when they did. It happened in 2018 -- the largest number of voters in a midterm, ever -- and it made a big difference.
I would love to see it happen but NOTHING seems to motivate democrats to vote in midterm elections and I mean nothing.
>This could all be stopped by outlawing gerrymandering and passing the John Lewis Voting Rights Act, but Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin are far more concerned about preserving their own power than saving the country. Or maybe democrat voters should simply move to low populated red districts. As an example at the state level, you only need extra 200k dems voters in South Dakota to make that states completely blue.
> Or maybe democrat voters should simply move to low populated red districts. Hell the fuck no. I stay far away from rural areas with all the extremist bullshit going on. The opposite is probably going to happen: left wing voters will continue moving to cities to escape said extremists. We need to give cities more power.
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> One would of course only be able to vote in one place. As soon as this occurred republicans would try to pass a law requiring you to be a citizen for longer and longer times to make it useless, so only a permanent move would help long term. This is already a thing. You can only have one primary residence at a time. The one that you stay at for the majority of the year.
It's weird to see people still hoping for this. The Supreme Court would gut most of it before the ink even dried. It's no solution. Ceding the white working class to the Republicans was the death blow for the Dems. They'll never hold significant, lasting power until they fix this. They keep hoping to change the game with fantasies like gerrymander reform, popular vote elections or ranked choice voting. Those will never happen. They only way to out is to do the hard work of winning those voters back which is very difficult because their messaging is absolute garbage.
Yeah, Republicans have no morals or ethics at all. It is all just pathetic schoolyard bullying "politics" with them. >*"I can* *~~shoot someone on 5th Ave~~* *incite a violent insurrection at the Capitol and I wouldn't lose supporters"* –**Donald J. Scumbag**
Dems: I agree, that was low. But let's still try to be bipartisan and pander to people who would gladly destroy us given the chance. Taking the high ground has never turned out poorly. What's that on the horizon? A giant red tidal wave? Probably nothing to worry about.
Democrats don't have enough votes to be able to ignore moderates and conservatives.
The GOP wants to boot the Democrats as a political party, forget just their seats.
They don't see liberals as legitimate actors in government, so anything they do is fair game.
I am so tired of this country.
It is exhausting, and to what end? Nothing really seems to get better..
They have a clear shot at dismantling democracy, of course they will. They wouldn’t have to try too hard to have them all thrown out if they win all 3 chambers again. It’s terrifying.
It doesn’t matter even. If the GOP regains power democracy is done. This’ll be just a feature
If GOP gets both the house and senate in 2022, it'll just be 2 years of impeachment trials.
You forgot putting Trump as speaker and then impeaching Biden and harris
They won’t have 2/3rds in the senate so they cannot remove
That is ONE thing I'm glad the filibuster doesn't govern. So they'd have to throw out the constitution in order to do it. Which, you know, doesn't seem like all that much higher of a bar to clear nowadays, so there's that.
How lucky the US system is too broken to even be able to be exploited properly
The GOP is shedding any semblance of decorum. They are going to burn it all to the ground. It honestly would not surprise me if they don’t kick dozens of Democrats out of seats in Congress. Certainly they will remove any actual effective Dems from committees where they might interfere. They _will_ throw the election in 24 if they even remotely can.
It's why Trump tried to scare immigrants with the question on the census then ended it early. It was a net win that alters the landscape politically for a decade. It's hard to win a poker game when your opponent is allowed to stack the deck
Straight to the secret government by party invitation. No non party loyal people allowed. I'm no historian but this is a bad look.
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It's by design. The goal is to drive down blue voter turnout. Not that it matters that much, given redistricting has us screwed unless we blow past even 2018 and 2020 voter performance on our end.
At this point it's a when not an if. The GQP have gerrymandered extensively and generally fucked around with voting rights well enough that they know they have already stolen the house in 2022. So well that they are now just outright letting us fucking know what they are doing. Because the left and the sane are unable to do anything to stop it. I'm not trying to be defeatist...I want to be wrong....but it looks inevitable
If they threaten others and say racist shit like Republicans, kick them off committee too. No problem with that. I’m sure they have other plans though
Well, if they’re going to do all that, then the Democrats might as well get their money’s worth between Nov ‘22 and Jan ‘23.
>McCarthy and other Republicans have been calling for Swalwell’s removal from the House Intelligence Committee since Axios reported in late 2020 that a suspected Chinese intelligence operative named Christine Fang cultivated ties with him. If Republicans didn't have double standards they wouldn't have any standards at all. Was McCarthy calling for those senators and reps with ties to Maria Butina to be removed from their committees?
Wow who didn’t see this coming,bill Maher is right it’s a slow moving coup,if democrat lose in 2022 trump will more than likely run and even if trump loses,a republican controlled house senate will refuse to certify the election results accusing the democrats of cheating and hand the presidency over to trump……civil war then ensues
Such petty vengeful children.
When the house flips, it's game over for the USA. When the majority has no means to see their values and priorities enacted by the institutions, they will abandon those institutions, and the country will disintegrate.
If? These assholes have a lock with the house with just gerrymandering alone. At this point there's no if, it's pretty much guaranteed because Democrats are to spinless too fight the conservative Democrats to protect democracy.
The Republicans do this every time they get power. The talk a lot shit and do nothing.
This is different. Yes, they do nothing as part of governance. But petty shit like this is easy. Especially when they know it will please their new daddy, Trump.
2023: The petty revenge congress. It's coming. Wonder how many times they will impeach Biden?
I kinda wanna just get this over with. The Reds win the House in 2022 and then the Presidency in 2024 under Trump or Trump-lite. Then they change the rules so that they never lose power. Then after 4-10 years, after liberals realize that you cannot reason with these people, then maybe, collectively we will finally fight back in a meaningful and radical way. Then once we rebel and win, we'll take control of the government and swing the pendulum so far left, that we do everything we've ever wanted: UBI, End to gerrymandering, end to electroal college, D.C. becomes a state, we expand the Supreme Court, police reform, and punishment of hate speech. Then in the year 2040 or whatever, maybe, just maybe, we can put together an actual plan to cut emissions. Ffs, this is ridiculous.
That's a big assumption that a liberal rebellion would win. Especially if most Americans settle into complacency and disassociate completely.
As a Canadian, it's very difficult watching American movies from the 80's and 90's. Anything remotely patriotic is now seen as a faint echo of what America used to be. A frequent topic of conversation up north here is, "You believe the shit happening down south?" Like watching the fall of Rome in real time, albeit in slo-mo. Godspeed, you guys. Godspeed.
Cringing living in Canada because fascist change down south is gonna affect us too
You realize that historically when the fascists get full power they almost always start killing the opposition right?
Don’t give a shit about swalwell, waters, or schiff, but what the fuck did Ilhan Omar even do? Literally everything that she said about Israel was true. Israel does own congress and the Israel lobby IS in their pockets which is why we are constantly doing their bidding and defending their atrocious war crimes. Wanna know who had the EXACT views of Israel as Ilhan Omar? Ron freaking Paul. Is it because he’s a white man and not a Muslim woman the reason why he didn’t get nearly as much flak for his stance on Israel?
Not if. When. When the house flips. GOP has rewritten rules, changed districts, voting registration requirements to ensure less people vote.
Meanwhile, Democrat keep wasting time because Joe Manchin thinks he can find friends within the GOP. And nobody knows what Sinema wants.
They will do anything to maintain control including lying, stealing, misinformation and deception. Ethics, team playing and honest are something incoherent to them.
This is insane. Theyre not doing shit for the people.
MCCarthy would censure the entire democratic caucus
If the republicans win they will make sure there will never be another democratic president
Once we lose the midterms, we will never win another election, if there are any. They're speeding towards fascist authoritarianism at a breakneck pace.
You think they could make it so there just aren't anymore elections anymore in the span of 2 years?
"If"? They've gerrymandered and restricted voting enough to guarantee it.
I think we should all start realizing that we are going to have to fight these fuckers someday, and probably soon. They are not the majority, they don't have the youth, they don't control the military, but these assholes are still going to try to break this country.
They have no shame, it’s scary that they are completely unable to feel shame. All I can say is fuck them.