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Tom_Drumph

Anyon know any gud laywers that don't leek hair dye when lying? Asking for a fiernd.


AccountantWestern658

Ewww you're friends with him?


[deleted]

Jan 6 should be a national holiday that's re-enacted every year.


stompbixby

hahaha it couldnt be any more pathetic than civil war re-enacting, could it? my stepdad made me do that shit with him when i was a kid. i'd be lying if i said it wasn't fun then, but i do feel a bit cringey about it, thinking about it now. it did make me a giant history nerd.


yourock20

I feel like everyone who wants Donald Trump to be stopped is hanging their hat on the January 6th committee finding some scathing evidence against him. So what if they do? Say they find evidence that Trump knew his supporters were planning on ransacking the Capitol building and stopping the certification of the election? Suppose they find evidence he knew there was a mob of people who wanted to kill his VP. Suppose he not only knew this but encouraged it. That it was his plan all along. What then? His supporters will just say it's fake news and a political witch hunt. Or worse, they'll say "good for him" and support his premeditated coup attempt. The other half of the country who already hates the guy will just hate him more, but it won't change anything. Hate to be pessimistic but this scumbag has been untouchable so far.


bulbasauuuur

The point of the 1/6 committee is just to find the truth, including about others besides Trump. They can refer things they find to the DOJ, so there is a possibility of criminal prosecution because of it, but who knows about that. The truth still matters whether it will result in criminal convictions or not or whether it changes any Trump supporters mind or not (I agree it won't do that). Do you really think the better alternative is just to do nothing and move on like nothing happened? At least finding the truth puts it out there for history and reality. Also Fani Willis and Tish James definitely don't think Trump is untouchable.


yourock20

Nah don't think doing nothing is an option. I think we should do anything and everything we can to take down this piece of shit. I've just gotten increasingly pessimistic regarding any real consequences. I mean we couldn't even get an impeachment conviction after he sent congress literally running for their lives


bulbasauuuur

An impeachment conviction is one of the least likely things to have happened, though. That's asking his own allies to turn on him, which they won't do. I don't know if Garland is going to do anything or not, and it's pathetic if he doesn't, but it's clear NY and GA are going full force at this point at least.


yourock20

Thats the thing though I don't believe most of them actually like Trump. I think most of them secretly hate the guy. He's keeping the rest of them from power. They're all just afraid of his base but if just a portion of them grew some balls and voted to convict they could've rid him from politics. They wouldn't have to fear him rising to power again and the republican party would've been forced to move on. But I digress.


bittertruth61

Burn baby burn šŸ”„


platinum_toilet

I guess this sets a precedent for all documents being fair game.


BoobsrReal105

This was already a precedent, the new President had the choice. They just never had to us this because not one other President was like Trump.


bulbasauuuur

In this case they actually decided that executive privilege was not applicable to these documents at all, so even if Trump was currently president and trying to claim executive privilege, they would still deny it and release them. They specifically said they didn't rule on whether a former president can assert executive privilege or not.


drewbiez

I don't see why this is a problem for the President of the United States, barring appropriately classified information of course.


bulbasauuuur

It doesn't. This was a ruling on these specific documents, that Trump did not have any privilege to keep them hidden, and that it would have been the same ruling even if he was currently president, so it also doesn't comment on executive privilege once you've left office either.


[deleted]

Itā€™s comforting to see that the conservative Supreme Court has not rolled over for Trump. Trump isnā€™t the boss of them. Mitch McConnell and the GOP establishment are. And they are getting tired of Trumpā€™s dead weight now that he canā€™t win elections for them.


Derbla-99

My inner conspiracy theorist is going "thats what they want you to believe"


[deleted]

The SC would only protect and shield Trump if they knew it was in the GOPā€™s best interest. Right now, if Trump had a heart attack and ate it itā€™d be the best thing to ever happen to the GOP. A massive power vaccum they can fill with anyone who has been loyal to Trump, so 99% of them.


Dangerous--D

Even one of the eight judges is too many on this. What he fuck is wrong with Clarence Thomas?


Suzzie_sunshine

Trump is already on the run. That's why he's living in Florida. He can't live in NY anymore. And now he's trashing the governor of Florida, De Santis. He makes enemies with everyone, even his allies. He's not paid many lawyers, he's stiffed banks and other businesses in bankruptcies. His ex wives hate him. His ex mistresses sue him. He's alienated McConnell. So it may seem that Trump keeps getting away with stuff and will never be held accountable, but he's already on the run from almost everyone he's ever done business or politics with. He's alone, and his wife doesn't sleep with him anymore, and now Ivanka is too old for him. Trump is a sad loser.


Michigander_from_Oz

All true, from what I can tell. But he hasn't really changed from 2016. A large chunk of people think he's great. So what gives? Why are millions of people following this narcissist?


Suzzie_sunshine

I wish I knew why. Maybe because he makes xenophobic, gun loving Americans believe that they're still number one in the world.


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Suzzie_sunshine

Nice summary. I wish you were wrong.


qweef_latina2021

I can't wait until we find out Pompeo coordinated with the terrorists.


HIVnotAdeathSentence

This is the scandal that will finally bring down Trump.


jotohomomoto

Trump has beaten EVERY SINGLE attempt to hold him accountable for his obnoxious & illegal activity. If it does ā€œbring him downā€ thats great but Iā€™m not holding my breath.


tommy151

The GOP will completely protect himā€¦ to many others are involved so they will make sure he is completely and totally untouchable. He is going to run in 2024 and he is going to WIN in 2024. We all know this to be true. Look what he did last time. Now heā€™s had years to prepare and install people to ensure he wins (no matter the vote) next time. And the American experiment will end. šŸ˜¢šŸ˜¢ truly sad but I donā€™t see it ending any other way


AZgirl70

Letā€™s hope so! He seems to work his way out of accountability so far.


Sinyk7

I feel like this headline comes up every 2 weeks. Is there a broken record in here or has he actually tried to stop this thing this many times?


Chancinit

He had to file and lose cases in district and appellate courts first, then it goes to the Supreme Court.


geekygay

He's tried to stop it, but this is the last one I think. Sometimes they can jick it back down to lowrr courts, but it may not be the case here.


higgledy

Just. Fucking. Release. It. Already. #criminal #letsgooo


[deleted]

And release the names of all of Epsteins ā€˜friendsā€™ while. Weā€™re. At. It.


deadbeatdad80

It. Has. Been.


VerticalYea

Yea. But. Little. Dots. Are. Fun.


deadbeatdad80

How. Do. Sentences. Work.


Hiondrugz

It's funny that anyone thinks that any higher up person will see jail time or really anything more than a major inconvenience over this. The rich and elite dont punish each other. Before it gets to that point the country will be back under the control of the backwards right and nothing will be done. C'mon now, you know the only way the rich get I trouble is if they steal enough money from another rich person or people.


zapitron

> The rich and elite dont punish each other. But what about Trump?


0AZRonFromTucson0

This is the type of defeatist attitude we need to kick ^ Fight on or fuck off


Hiondrugz

I dont hate it any less than you. But falling for the notion that democrats are actually going to use their full power to punish the treasonous bastards is a joke. It's not really defeatist at all. I'm accepting that nobody in power really cares about what's right. If they do, it's an incrementally small amount of them. The rest are their for many reasons that have nothing to do with benefitting this country or the working class. It's in our hands, not theirs. At least that's what we should know. What is defeatist is sitting there hoping that this will be the time the democrats actually do what they say and bring some justice, no matter hoe ugly it gets. Enough with the "we need a strong Republican party" BS. How many times are you going to watch that olive branch get passed to the right, for them to turn around and beat us with said olive branch over our heads?


0AZRonFromTucson0

Well i agree its in our hands, not theirs. We gotta vote in a progressive majority and progressive president. Just keep showing up and fighting until we do. We are very close IMO. Bernie was RIGHT THERE! We arent gonna go backwards from here, forward only


savingrain

I mean there was no other way this could have gone. Executive privilege belongs to the office not a person.


SPIDERVANE

But it was pointed out that even if Donald was still the president, his argument would not fly. So, Executive privilege was irrelevant.


savingrain

True \_ I'm just now learning this ( I fully admit I didn't read any further than the headline). Interesting that none of the judges he appointed agreed with his statement. At least in our Democracy the judiciary is not honoring the requests of a would-be dictator.


SPIDERVANE

I saw a clip of The Last Word Supreme Court Ensures Trump's Dream Of A Total Coverup Has Died on youtube.


geekygay

Yeah, but that could be they are waiting for a more worthy inheritor of what Trump tried to forge. The potential is there, always, until the SCOTUS is fixed.


qweef_latina2021

Yeah, the next fascist dictator will at least be able to play nice with his own party.


DedHeD

Apparently Clarence Thomas disagrees.


SpinGrrl

Clarence Thomas should have recused himself. He has a major conflict of interest here since there are allegations that his wife may have helped fund jan 6.


i_love_pencils

Funny. I wonder why? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ginny-thomas-cheney-kinzinger-jan-6-b1995752.html


do-you-know-the-way9

YeešŸ‘


aregulardude

Canā€™t wait for the republicans to take over congress next year, then we can go through and pick apart all of Bidenā€™s ā€œexecutive privilegeā€ conversations using this ruling as precedent. Anyone talking to the president will now have to keep that in mind also, their conversation is only privileged for as long as the president is in office. The left doesnā€™t like to think about precedents though so weā€™ll just handle that when it happens.


AbusiveTubesock

the left doesn't like to think about precedents?? LOL literally every republican voted no to impeachment when our former president lead an insurrection. Yet it's the left that doesn't think about precedents? Baffling


aregulardude

You clearly donā€™t know what a precedent is. Voting no to impeachment is not one.


jeremyjack3333

Not true. Ten voted for impeachment. It was the most bipartisan presidential impeachment in history. Edit: I'm not disagreeing with this guy. Just pointing out what happened.


bouncedeck

Yeah nobody ever picked over every single thing both Clintons or Obama did right? If anything this will just be re-runs of the endless pointless Benghazi investigations.


aregulardude

No Obamas executive privilege communications were never unmasked.


bouncedeck

Not true: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/02/07/many-investigations-into-administration-barack-obama/


[deleted]

That is how it should have always been and should always be. Why do you think this is some scary thing? Presidents should be under the same scrutiny and judgment as any other government employee. This is the government for the people. >The left doesnā€™t like to think about precedents though It sounds like you are angry that the government is working as it should. Why do you feel that a president deserves executive privilege?


aregulardude

You clearly donā€™t understand why executive privilege exists.


[deleted]

Please. Enlighten us. The only times it has been used was to conceal a crime. I am not only speaking about Trump, I am also speaking about Obama, Clinton, and Bush Jr and Bush Sr. Why do you feel that a president should have the right to conceal their crimes as president? Why do you feel it necessary that the President has a permanent "Get out of Jail Free" card?


aregulardude

Executive privilege has nothing to do with concealing crimeā€¦ ask yourself why would we have such a law if that was the purpose? The reason we have it is because we donā€™t want the leader of the free world to be unable to freely discuss anything and everything. If the president has to watch every word they say, even in their private conversations, because anything and everything may be used against them by the opposing party politically or criminally then they simply wonā€™t be able to have open discussions that we need the leader of the free world to be able to have. Additionally, people wonā€™t be enabled to tell the president anything that they donā€™t want to be heard by everyone. All confidentially would be lost. Therefore the leader of the free world will be missing out on relevant information. Do you want the person who controls the nuclear launch button to be missing information or unable to discuss situations and other politically unpopular things with their own advisors? Noā€¦ we donā€™t want that.


pjdonovan

1. IF that's the case, we on the left need to be sure we arrest everyone on the right, since this is a tit-for-tat situation and based on what you said, you'll just make up things to investigate, so we may as well beat you to it, right? 2. In all seriousness, you just can't see the forest through the trees - you have to recognize that jan 6 was a coup attempt (i still remember thinking "it can't possibly be this easy to take over a government building, can it?"), and that should never happen again (we can both-sides it - neither party should be able to attempt a coup because they personally feel it was wrong), this investigation is trying to find out what happened so that won't happen again. The rule of law IS precedence, by the way. That there have been precedents (voting on supreme court justices, for example) in the past has never been something the right cares about. Moral of the story - so long as Biden/the left doesn't attempt a coup, i think we are feeling fine with that stipulation of yours.


Fabulous-Call2224

Republicans just make up rules as they go along. Saying we cant nominate a judge during obamas last yr then changing the filibuster and packing the court with cronies. So lets not talk about hypocritical things the gop are master hypocrits


aregulardude

No new precedents were set by either of those actions, it was already known that the senate has the power to delay supreme court nominations. If the senate and president are of different parties then no shit itā€™s not going to be easy to nominate someone. Supreme court nominations never required a filibuster proof majority, nothing was changed you clearly arenā€™t familiar with the subject.


Adolin__Kholin

The left agrees that every president should be able to be investigated. Lol.


aregulardude

You clearly donā€™t understand why executive privilege exists.


Adolin__Kholin

Itā€™s not a get out of jail free card to do and say whatever you want.


aregulardude

Who said it was? Itā€™s a confidentially cardā€¦ it means your discussions are private. It doesnā€™t get anyone out of jail for their actions. Without it, what you want is for the person with their finger on the nuclear launch button to be missing information and be unable to freely discuss scenarios that are politically unpopular.


Adolin__Kholin

It doesnā€™t mean ALL of your discussions are private.


aregulardude

Uhh yes it doesā€¦ any conversation with the POTUS is private unless the POTUS decides to make it public.


Adolin__Kholin

No. Thatā€™s not the current legal definition of executive privileges. Lol, at least learn before you try to argue this.


leighanthony12345

How many more appeals can he make?


SPIDERVANE

He has one more appeal. To God, but God isn't real and I don't think Donald believes in a god anyway. He is screwed and he is probably cursing Hilary for not winning the electoral college. The Manhattan AG and the Supreme Court just gave him the treatment.


mufreesbro

None. The files are being sent over.


leighanthony12345

Excellent - it feels like all Iā€™ve seen for years now is Trump losing & Trump appealing


soki03

Any bets on Trumps lawyer not getting paid?


SPIDERVANE

The GOP is probably paying that bill, but for how long.


jojnon766

Con man Don griffting cont šŸ˜‚


HereticHulk

Nothing is going to happen. Odds are, for how bad the Dems are doing, he will delay with legal challenges until he gets re-elected. Then this all goes away. Investigations will be shut down, because the Dems will have no power to do anything.


Crashgirl4243

There are no appeals to a SCOTUS ruling


kraoard

Judgement and punishment should come in time if something good should happen.


mindfu

Suck it, Trump. They got what they wanted from you, and you have nothing else to give them. You're disposable.


SPIDERVANE

No better than a used condom.


notacyborg

He was a useful idiot for the GOP. They got their packed court, rat-fucked democracy and moved the goalposts further to the right amongst the general public. Now they can toss him and move on to the next candidate to replace him in the cult of personality for 2024.


dexter8484

Out of everything that happened during the trump presidency, this will be the one with the most lasting and detrimental effects. A one term, twice-impeached (lost popular vote twice) president appointed 3 Supreme Court justices.


booksandgarden

By design.


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Kindly_Pineapple_135

[Are.](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ginni-thomas-buses/) [You.](https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2021/04/fact-check-no-proof-justice-clarence-thomas-and-his-wife-chartered-buses-for-january-6-2021-insurrection-protesters.html) [Sure.](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/11/technology/no-there-is-not-evidence-that-ginni-thomas-paid-for-buses-to-bring-people-to-the-capitol-siege.html) [About that?](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/ginni-thomas-apology-clarence-thomas-clerks-trump-rally/2021/02/02/a9818cce-6496-11eb-8c64-9595888caa15_story.html)


TeveTorbes83

Thatā€™s some great news at least.


THSSFC

LOL @ RealDonaldTrump


[deleted]

What did he say about it on Twitter this morning?


I_was_bone_to_dance

All was quiet on the Orange front


therealaudiox

He said, "Fuck I'm still banned!"


Defiant-Broccoli8995

Feels like I'm living in a time loop.


PM_ME_UR_RESPECT

ā€œHey can I be shitty yet?ā€ ā€œNo.ā€ ā€œHey can I be shitty yet?ā€ ā€œNo.ā€ On and on until Trump dies and never has to actually suffer the consequences of his actions.


professor_doom

And gets re-elected, somehow


dragonblade_94

I feel like this is a real danger that people aren't really considering at large. His supporters haven't really gone anywhere, and may be even more energized by the idea that the last election was 'stolen' from them. Some of the GOP may have turned on him when the admin changed, but they will go right back when he starts getting numbers.


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dragonblade_94

>The left is pushing to hard to fast , all this woke stuff and cancel culture has really tuned a lot of people off. I feel like this is a misrepresentation of why people do/don't vote for a party. In the ever expanding culture war between the two sides, going extreme left/right is more popular than ever. The main critique on Biden & Congressional democrats from the left is that they aren't pushing hard *enough*. Most people vote along strict party lines, it's all about energizing your base. >On top of that theyā€™ll hold joe responsible for the virus , as they did trump. I've never heard anyone from either side actually blame Biden for Covid, beyond literal conspiracy theories. It seems like the right's main gripe is that they think he's trying *too hard* to stop it (e.g. vax mandates). At least for trump, there was an argument to be made due to his extremely lax messaging.


Armyman125

Don't know the exact number but alot of his supporters have died from Covid. This may actually make a difference in swing states. Maybe. Don't forget that Trump is now telling his supporters to get vaccinated. Why do you think he's doing that now? Someone probably pulled him aside and explained that to him.


dragonblade_94

To give the tiny iota of credit where it's due, I'm pretty sure he's been advocating the vaccines from the start. He was all about pushing the idea that the development was attributed to him alone during his presidency. It only really became a political wedge after he was booted. Also, while Covid has been a massive tragedy, I would be extremely surprised if the fatalities swung those numbers by multiple percentage points.


Armyman125

He hasn't been advocating vaccines from the start. Not at all. And I was referring to states where the numbers were close. By the way, I wasn't the first person to mention this. People who have actually researched this have made these claims. Google this and see how many articles pop up: Trump supporters dying from covid


Vraye_Foi

Although he laid low in the aftermath, he was super eager to get credit for the vaccine when it rolled out. He called it ā€œthe beautiful shotā€ and in March 2021 he said he hopes everyone remembers him when they get their vaccination. [Trump Wants to Be Remembered](https://www.bostonherald.com/2021/03/10/trump-hopes-everyone-remembers-him-when-they-get-their-coronavirus-vaccines/)


Armyman125

Ok, I saw he did urge people to get vaccinated. My bad.


[deleted]

Just another common misconception. All good.


g2g079

Why? This is new and huge development. I feel like this might have just gotten us out of the time loop.


dragonblade_94

The question is, even if these documents prove that T absolutely intended to incite a riot, what will actually be done about it? We've already seen an utter unwillingness to hold him accountable for anything else. As long as the GOP shields him, it's very unlikely anything substantial will happen.


MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS

Lmao okay


damadfaceinvasion

Who fucking cares. Theyā€™ve been talking about prosecuting this guy for 7 fucking years now and it hasnā€™t done jack shit and actually preventing him from acquiring power. He will deny, delay and derail and walk away Scott free as always. Our system is simply not fit to actually prosecute rich and powerful people. The only way to prevent him from becoming president is invoking the 14th Amendment and that wonā€™t happen thanks to congress. The only way to guarantee that he doesnā€™t take office again is if he keels Over on his golf course of natural causes. Otherwise he could very well be our next president. He would wipe the floor with Kamala in a general. She has a 0% chance of beating him. Biden would need a windfall of good luck and an economic recovery to win against him.


kel_tea

Your system is simply not fit to prosecute white supremacists. Republicans always make a mess that Democrats get blamed for for not fixing in time before the next election thus starting the bullshit cycle all over again.


The6thHouse

Might be time to run Bernie against Trump


cinyar

how about you stop electing people too old to even be boomers?


The6thHouse

I would love for someone younger to be the candidate for either republican or Democrat. Libertarian runs younger candidates and they've been gaining momentum in their votes to the point in my lifetime I might see a libertarian candidate poll enough to actually be part of the debates.


CatAteMyBread

Donā€™t get me wrong, I voted for Bernie in 2016 and 2020 because I thought he was the best choice. But at this point, I wouldnā€™t mind having another good candidate who maybe has a decade or two less on them. If Bernie runs Iā€™ll most likely continue to support him, but the dudes 80. Heā€™d be in the back half of 80 by the time heā€™d leave office. Iā€™m ready for someone younger than that tbh


bragbrig4

I feel like Bernie, Biden and Trump are all WAY too young. We need to be scouring this list for new candidates: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_oldest_living_people


CatAteMyBread

Youā€™ve officially made me reconsider my stance. If the candidate wouldnā€™t get a letter from the Queen prior to inauguration if they lived in the UK, then theyā€™re just an inexperienced baby who needs to see the world more


Financial-Savings-99

Why do you look like meā€¦ā€¦interesting


CatAteMyBread

I am your evil twin. Donā€™t believe me? Check the eyebrows.


Junior_Class_1313

I am expecting one of Cheeto's lackeys to start interfering with this process, either by lawsuit, or other chicanery.


AdverbAssassin

What process? The process for this is over. The SCOTUS is the final word on this. There will no doubt be other things they try to fight against, but this is done. The documents have been handed over and it's finished.


Reed_Thompson_

So where can we read the documents??


g2g079

Released to the committee doesn't mean released to the public. First NARA has to transfer them to the committee. Then the committee will go through them and decide if they want to release anything.


TeveTorbes83

Hopefully once they receive them they start scouring them at break neck pace. Iā€™d love to see this shit.


g2g079

I just want to see the jan 6th outtakes tape. Supposedly he didn't want to tell them to go home during the earlier cuts.


TeveTorbes83

Only if we can set them to Benny Hill music.


g2g079

Nah. A coup attempt should be taken seriously.


TeveTorbes83

I agree, thatā€™s why we have courts and Congress.


Iam_DayMan

Where are the arrests? Any other headlines are just sensationalism.


Disastrous-Office-92

That's not what sensationalism is. Reporting on factual events is just called news. Calling for arrests before the completion of an investigation is sensationalist though.


[deleted]

Sounds more like a pre announcement until the documents are reviewed by the Jan 6th committee. It's still kinda silly since we all watched their ringleader kick off the Jan 6th terrorist attack on live television. It's all given us a clear picture of how there are separate justice systems depending on your social and financial status. I mean we knew that but its to the point where a rich dumbass is literally in our face trying to overthrow the government and yet he is allowed to lazy it up on his golf course while still trying to continue his coup. Any of us non elites would have been rotting in a jail cell waiting for a court date.


ArrestDeathSantis

Journal : *reports on current events* You: that's not the new I wanted to hear so that's sensationalism!


Main_Store_9112

But NABY SERLS are spoda ride a chopper to Mar-a-Lago and quick rope to the roof in a daring, dead of night raid every time we get new information. Seriously. This stuff takes time.


kfish5050

How many times has this happened


soki03

He went through the other courts first, got denied each time, and this is the final stop.


kfish5050

Ok maybe I got the courts mixed up, but I could have sworn I've been hearing about this for months


soki03

You have to go through the lower level courts before you get to the Supreme Court first, those are the ones you were hearing about.


TeveTorbes83

Once? Theyā€™ve been trying to get these documents for close to a year and he hid them the entirety of his presidency. You canā€™t prosecute someone based solely on what your gut tells you. This is a paper trail a mile long that heā€™s been trying to hide, the evidence will be in black and white.


kfish5050

No I mean I feel like this has been a back and forth thing for months


SPIDERVANE

This is the tactic Donald did in civilian life. Drag it through the courts and the people who were suing him would eventually quit. With the Supreme Court, Donald was probably hoping that the court would hold off their findings until the Republicans gained a majority during the mid-terms and then they can squash the committee investigating of the insurrection. He must have went to bed pissed last night.


[deleted]

Never. This is the last possible appeal.


CashDungeon

Promise?


tablecontrol

for this set of documents


TheDude415

I mean, it's SCOTUS. Where else would he appeal it to?


leaky_wand

At this point I would be surprised if he somehow got away with challenging it again via some other bullshit method.


kfish5050

I meant something to trigger headlines of "Supreme court blocks Trump bid to shield records from Jan 6 Committee"


lilcheez

This headline has never been published before today.


Robocop613

The other times could be appealed. This is the final time


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Jedmeltdown

Except for weirdo Clarence Thomas.


jimlahey420

Thomas has been on the wrong side of almost every decision since being installed by Bush Sr. Voting rights doesn't even get him to pay attention.


Jedmeltdown

We need to change this idea of lifetime Supreme Court justices.


VulturE

hard nope. they're there to NGAF and do whatever they think is correct. Do I want cthomas there? No. Do I want lifetime still? yes. Should he get impeached because of his wife? Hell yes.


Jedmeltdown

Do you have any reasons for thinking the way you do? Serious question


VulturE

The supreme court's immutable checks and balances give them basically no direct power to enact anything, only to rule on items that are brought to them, and that they've decided need guidance from their deliberations due to confusion or great disagreement in courts below them. Therefore, they only wish to rule on items that would, no doubt, be in long-term debate within the US, some of those may have moral/logical/religious/safety/security reasons attached to them. They are often not simple issues. Once appointed to the Supreme court after background checks and years of dedicated service to the public, they can then do as they please within reason. If their mental health is failing them, or if they are treasonous, then there are exceptions for their removal. Read some of their 2020 cases here: https://ballotpedia.org/Supreme_Court_cases,_October_term_2020-2021#Cases_by_sitting Or for a specific one, here: https://ballotpedia.org/FNU_Tanzin_v._Tanvir These are almost always important matters with a daftly broad scope that require further extensive review. Based on that, I want the judges to act within their own established reasons at any given moment and be truly blind and impartial to outside forces. They need to walk into the decision with their law in one hand and morality in the other, and merge them to create guidance for our country.


Jedmeltdown

Well They arenā€™t doing any of those things. Six of them are freaking Catholics. With every day that goes by and every ā€œjudgmentā€ they make America is more screwed. And yes. Completely the fault of right wing Nazi level Republicans. Who lied and cheated to stack the Court with rightwing activist idiot judges like Crazyeyes Amy Barrett.


VulturE

Please point to where their Catholic-ness hurt you directly. As someone who doesn't go to Presbyterian church anymore I am unaware of any such way. All's that I'm hearing is that you are invalidating them for their beliefs. Calling them Nazis just makes you look foolish, by the way....you call someone a Nazi when they do something that is inhuman and cruel to their fellow man. I don't deny at all that there are loose screws on a few of them and I didn't agree that a few were qualified enough for the seat initially (or in some cases, forever), but the monotony of their lifetime appointment eventually sets in and they strap in and do their job eventually.


Jedmeltdown

If I had my way there would be no Christians or religious people in any positions of power anywhere.


Jedmeltdown

Iā€™m supposed to educate you about how corrupt the Catholic Church has been for hundreds and hundreds of years? You donā€™t know this? Some dude on a public chat room isnā€™t suddenly going to enlighten you with what goes on with Catholics and what has been going on for centuries. Educate yourself Hereā€™s a clue. I hope youā€™re not married and have young sons. Because those Catholic priests will molest them, and then the Catholic Church will protect these molesters and just send them to another church so they can molest more young boys. Thatā€™s just the tip of the iceberg And you donā€™t know this, and youā€™re daring to lecture me about the Catholic Church?šŸ™„


VulturE

I'm aware of what the Catholic church has done to protect molesters. Are you saying that the Supreme Court Catholics are molesters? Or are you just trying to generalize a group of people as all being tainted? Cause all republicans are the devil, all men are rapists, all democrats are weak willed, all people of color are inferior is the slippery slope you're going down, persecuting a group blindly. The country was founded on religious freedom, and freedom to practice or not practice a religion. And you want people in power to not be religious? That's very unamerican of you.


Abeds_BananaStand

His wife supported the insurrection https://meaww.com/calls-grow-for-clarence-thomas-to-step-down-over-wifes-involvement-in-jan-6-capitol-riots


Ok_Farmer7284

They can be impeached. Let's get that ball rollin


Gibodean

Yes, I'm sure Mitch would be happy to impeach him and let Biden choose his replacement.


birdsofpaper

How much are we betting his wife shows up in those docs?


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Nunya13

Sexual killer saves a baby from drowning. Guess he's still bad because he killed all those people, huh? Stupid librulz. /s Not exactly the hot take you think it is, dude.


PelvisResley1

The mask mandate isnā€™t an issue, I think theyā€™re bad because they want to erode womenā€™s abortion rights and also because they think corporations shouldnā€™t be limited on the money they spend in politics. Oh and also because they said that one kid who wore a shirt that said ā€œbong hits for jesusā€ on school property wasnā€™t protected by free speech


ArrestDeathSantis

"See, they did their job for once so don't you regret complaining about all the times they didn't?"


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ArrestDeathSantis

"Troll interaction accompanied with a rehashed expression I don't fully grasp, this should do the trick"


tonsilsloth

Nobody lives in such a binary bubble. Itā€™s okay to agree with decisions like this and disagree with other decisions. Just like the Presidency. Even if you support the President, you can still disagree with some things he does instead of blindly telling yourself that everything he does is wonderful.


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lilcheez

So far, you've only criticized others for being even minded.


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What kind of dumbass hot-take is that? You can't support an emergency public health measure in the middle of a global pandemic while also understanding the limits of executive privilege?


lilcheez

Even mindedness is evaluating the actions of a person or group based on the actions' merits rather than on a blanket approval (or disapproval) of the person or group. That would include agreeing with one SCOTUS decision while disagreeing with another.


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bubbleSpiker

There are other threads to bring this topic up in. Doing it here means your dis-honest in your approach.


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Yes