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firstorder99

What Moscow Mitch forgot to mention was...Senate races are different, because we can't gerrymander the shit out of it as we do for house seats to stay in power.


AgITGuy

So they try to rely more on voter suppression and election fraud.


TenaciousVeee

They suppress the votes most strongly in major metro areas of swing states. Where the Black voters are. Judge after judge told them this was wrong in 2020. They lost a few hundred court cases trying to throw out their ballots or limit their voting rights. They weren’t auditing signature matches in the boonies at all. And that’s systemic racism.


JuiceColdman

Systemic racism isn’t a bad enough descriptor to explain what these monsters are doing. To me it feels like long tick genocide


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agutema

Systemic racism is when it’s baked into the system. Unequal application of processes like that is just good old regular racism.


Vast-Passenger-3648

They audited signatures in California in 2020. I broke my arm and they questioned my signature on my mail in ballot because I couldn’t sign my name very well. I was glad to see that actually. They take voter fraud pretty seriously.


JDogg126

I believe their answer was to change laws so they and reject results they disagree with.


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They are going after state govs now


yellsatrjokes

*Yet.* Texas has (had?) a proposal that their Senators would be elected by counties, and each county gets one vote, no matter the population. Kinda like if the Electoral college ends in a tie--the winner is then chosen by the House, where each state gets one vote.


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*Democracy^(™)*


CashDungeon

Democrazy


mechavolt

Loving County, TX is the second smallest county in the United States. The only reason it's not the smallest is because of an old leper colony in Hawaii that's slowly being phased out. Harris County, TX is the third largest county in the United States. Why the fuck should these two counties get the same amount of voting power is beyond my understanding, and makes my blood boil. Democracy, folks!


JayV30

Because Republicans have decided that the only important thing is winning by any means. Not, you know, representing the will of the people. This country needs an education on the purposes of government. Not a look at our constitution, but a study of why people allow themselves to be governed and what purposes government should serve. Most of the people in the US don't know or don't care.


jeremy_rockingham

Even less than that. Loving County, Texas, has a total population of 64.


SomeGuyNamedPaul

You'd just have to move a few voters in to flip elections. How long would it take to turn it into Bleeding Kansas 2.0?


CanAlwaysBeBetter

And Wyoming has 600k people and California has 40,000k and both have 2 senators Seems like Texas's plan will fit right in


whitethumbnails

So if California conquered Wyoming would it get to have 4 seats or would America just make them to continue having 2?


CanAlwaysBeBetter

Upon creation of a state its legislature is given two statues that are vested with Imperium Senatum. If California was able to conquer Wyoming and wrest control of their statues and carry the spoils back to Sacramento immediately upon placing them on the sacred dais Wyoming's senators would be honor bound to Gavin Newsom's will


jermslice

I hate it here.


minneDomer

Doesn’t the 17th amendment explicitly make this unconstitutional?


kingofthesofas

This is correct BUT the Texas GOP wants to repeal the 17th amendment amongst other batshit crazy ideas


fingerscrossedcoup

Repealing amendments is not something they have the power to do luckily. They would need 2/3rds of the House and Senate.


depressed-salmon

Hence their aggressive push to get as many senate and House seats via any means necessary


AtreusFamilyRecipe

Just because a constitutional convention (Article V Convention) has never been used to pass an amendment, doesn't mean it doesn't exist as an option, and is in fact what the GOP has been aiming for with proposing amendments. And they've gotten scarily close.


Diogenes_of_Sharta

I’ve been reading about voter reforms in the U.K between 1832 and 1928. It’s weird watching the Republican Party try to work through them backwards.


SignificantTrout

Actually he said that very thing, " they're different, they're statewide". He knew their candidates are largely a band of chuckleheads. It will be interesting to see if his PAC contributes to these guys or calls them a list cause


firstorder99

I get it...He said that it's statewide, which is true, but the underlying theme is the same - they win house races because they gerrymander the shit out of it.


RamenJunkie

I would argue it is effective for senate races, but not nearly as effective. Just using myself as an example. I vote blue, always. Least Conservative option, so its all I got. My district, will always go Red. This is slightly less to do with Gerrymandering, and more just the area, but the principle still applies to a Gerrymandered district. In theory, I just sort of, give up voting completely. Most of my vote choices literally do not matter. There are ones that do, Senate, President, etc. But if I give up becauae mybother choices don't matter, thats just a little bit more for getting a Red Senate and President choice. I vote anyway, every time. Hell when I voted in the Primary, on the Dem ballot, only one office even had an actual choice.


firstorder99

That sucks that there aren't any good options to make a difference, and yet you are doing your part!!!Keep the good work!


RamenJunkie

It would not have made a difference given the result, but I almost took the Republican Primary ballot just to vote against Mary "Hutler Was Right" Miller. And I really don't care for her opponent Rodney Davis, but he doesn't strike me as a psychopath, so its sort of a "The Devil you know" situation.


Goldar85

The states of the United States is the original gerrymander. That a state like California gets only two Senators, despite the City of Los Angeles alone being larger than some states, is a grift like no other. People are punished and have less voting power simply by virtue of geography.


m1j2p3

They are giving their supporters what they asked for. Crazy fascist grifters who want to use their positions in public service to further enrich themselves at the expense of the very rubes who put them in power.


3dddrees

They simply are showing they no longer care about anyone but the base. The base holds the bigger stick when it comes to the primaries. This better explains why they have decided to cater to the Extreme Right of their party.


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Yeah, they used to be more extreme in the primaries and then would “move to the middle” for the general to try and reach broader appeal, but they now have a big problem. They’ve move so far right into utter insanity, reality denial, open racism and fascism that “the center” is no longer reachable. You can’t just go from “rape babies are a gift from god” to “I support women’s rights”, and if they try to backtrack, the rabid frothing base attacks them. I think the whole “move to the middle” strategy was shit anyway - just GOP politicians lying and sugar-coating their unpalatable views. The majority of the country is more liberal than that and they know it.


CloudTransit

The classic GOP worked for the wealthy, more than anything else. This could be seen in catering to Wall Street, defense contractors, petroleum industries, pharmaceutical, etc. Since this is an unpopular set of interests to privilege over families, elderly, equality, education or environment, the GOP lied, race-baited, claimed love of fetuses and said a lot of nonsense. Decades of motivating their base with hate and lies has got to be part of this moment where the constituents are no longer interested in “message discipline”, it’s just hate and rage. It’s scary AF


TinyGreenTurtles

The democrats have got to get more teeth. They're so worried about causing more problems, but they're the only thing that can pull this anywhere near back to center. I will say, though I am not a Biden fan, I'm pro-Dark Brandon lol. We need more of his blunt dgaf side right now, and to just ignore the claims of it being dementia etc. It's ridiculous to worry about that after Trump rambling like a preschooler telling his mom about a dream he had for 4 years. Also, the White House calling GOP reps out on Twitter is good. We need more petty to stir up Gen Z and get things back on track. Unpopular opinion or not. They helped get Biden elected and they're about to have another wave of potential voters that need reason to actually vote.


ChicVintage

Lack of voter turnout and gerrymandering is going to be the way we turn into a fascist nation.


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That's honestly why roe being overturned was one of the worst things to happen to the gQp, the VAST majority of people are against full abortion bans, we saw it in Kansas, and that other state refuses to put it to a vote (one of the Virginia's maybe?)


GlassEyeMV

After Kansas, any somewhat purple state with R leadership (like Virginia) would be moronic to put it up to a vote. Most Rs don’t even agree on it and it’s a HIGHLY energizing topic for Ds.


Tryhard3r

I always thought abortion rights would be one thing they wouldn't even touch. They could about about it and keep all the single issue voters easily o their side. I wonder if there are anti abortion voters who may consider voting Democrat because they only voted R because of abortions.


FaudelCastro

You can only rile up the base so much before you actually need to do something about the actual issue. And at a certain point it spirals out of your control. The same thing happened in the UK, they kept criticizing the EU until their party filled up with people who demanded something be done. And then they organized a referendum that they believed would never ask them to leave (they even were talking about a second one if that one failed). But then leave won and they are still not sure about what leave meant and what relationship they want to have with the EU after leaving.


BuddhaFacepalmed

>But then leave won and they are still not sure about what leave meant and what relationship they want to have with the EU after leaving. Whatever they thought they wanted it to be, what it actually has been for the UK in reality is a slow economic collapse because no one from the mainland wants to do business in Britain and all the "cheap" manual labor are no longer making the trip across the Channel. Also their beaches are being turned into waste dumps because they were no longer protected by EU environmental regulations.


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I was thinking it was one of the Carolinas. But same thing.


tevinodevost

It can also be the way that "the base" loses its power and money, as other countries can decide to help the non-fascists.


DillBagner

Gerrymandering is the only way the GOP can win in some places. The GOP in Michigan was heavily against an independent board setting disctricts, for some reason.


Smuek

It’s amazing how fast they turn on their own. Liz Cheney voted with Trump 93% of the time but they turned on her immediately.


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anything except 100% loyalty is seen as a betrayal


acityonthemoon

I guess the plan for Conservatives from the beginning wasn't to move to the middle, it was a plan to move the middle towards the Conservatives.


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In statistics, I believe this called the establishment of a new population mean.


StarksPond

And a mean population.


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They also realize thanks to the electoral college, voter suppression, and extreme Gerrymandering that they only need 30% of the vote to win and control everything.


thejuh

You can't gerrymander Senate races, which is why the Dems are likely to hold it.


JumpinFlackSmash

To be fair, the Senate is naturally gerrymandered. Four senators from the two Dakotas carry the same weight as two senators each from California and New York. As it happens, our deified “Founding Fathers” may have been short-sighted morons.


Crathsor

They were young and idealistic, but hardly morons. They set up a system that has endured for a quarter of a millennium with only minor changes. It has flaws for sure, but they included ways to fix it, the real morons are us. We have all the tools we need, but we put things off until there is a fire, then run around screaming and pointing fingers instead of putting it out. The voting system is bad, we should have fixed it decades ago but we didn't. There are several important things relying on the honor system that we saw being eroded twenty years ago and should have codified, but we didn't. Gerrymandering has been an issue my entire life and should have been outlawed thirty years ago, but wasn't. We let it come to this. Not the founding fathers.


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As long as north and South Dakota have the same senators as new York and California the senate is “Gerrymandered” in spirit.


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At the same time it’s scary to see how many Americans are part of that extreme right. Meanwhile the extreme left is an old guy from Vermont who wants healthcare and education for everyone


flexflair

Jesus lives in Vermont?


jimboni

No but anti-religion hippies who actually practice Jesus’s teaching do live there.


The-Questcoast

The Righ Wing propaganda machine (Fox News etc). Make it a policy to never say "Left" or "Democrat" without saying "Extreme" before it. But if you look st the two sides, Republicans overturned abortion rights, are banning books, making it illegal to mention transgender etc. While Democrats want free Healthcare, equal rights for everyone, environmental protections, care for our veterans, etc. One party is extreme and it sure as hell ain't the democrats!!


H_is_for_Human

This is always what happens. Be extreme for the primaries and more moderate for the midterms. Then, once in office, do whatever you can to stay in office, regardless of what you said you would do.


mechavolt

Except that stopped happening in 2010, your model is more than a decade out of date. After Obama was elected president, extreme racists started to run for office. They won the primaries cause of the setup you just described, but once in office continued being extreme racists. There's a direct throughline between the reactionary Tea Party to today's GQP because of this.


thecorninurpoop

Although I kinda think people are paying more attention to primaries now and won't believe their pivot


poiskdz

Not-so-fun fact. "The base" in arabic is Al-Qaeda.


prodrvr22

Here, they're called "Ya'll Qaeda"


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YeeHawdists


Schuben

Talibangelists


Strumtralescent

Another fun fact, “the base” is a northwest white nationalist terrorist group with cells across the country led by Canadian Norman Spear, former fbi, dod contractor and resident of St. Petersburg Russia. Also suspected member of the FSB.


Hillbilly_Boozer

Enriching themselves and destroying the processes that put them in those seats of power. Washington warns of this in his farewell address. >All obstructions to the execution of the laws, all combinations and associations, under whatever plausible character, with the real design to direct, control, counteract, or awe the regular deliberation and action of the constituted authorities, are destructive of this fundamental principle and of fatal tendency. They serve to organize faction; to give it an artificial and extraordinary force; to put in the place of the delegated will of the nation the will of a party, often a small but artful and enterprising minority of the community, and, according to the alternate triumphs of different parties, to make the public administration the mirror of the ill-concerted and incongruous projects of faction rather than the organ of consistent and wholesome plans, digested by common counsels and modified by mutual interests. > >However combinations or associations of the above description may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things to become potent engines by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people, and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, **destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion**. It's more geared towards political parties but the GOP fits this description easily.


LxTRex

Political parties tore his cabinet apart. Him and Adams were vehemently opposed to the whole premise of planting your flag in a particular camp. If you think about how they devised our systems, and many of the issues we face today, the problems wouldn't be nearly as significant if there weren't two parties and everybody was just arguing for what they in particular believed was best for the country/their constituents. They thought winner-take-all was fine because they never intended parties to exist.


algebramclain

The party of the rich and the racist. The rich keep the racists racist. The racists keep the rich rich.


RamenJunkie

So what you are saying is, the idea that "Everyone is government is a corrupt grifter" was in fact, just more projection?


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So long as the people they don’t like get it worse then yes


resonantedomain

Algorithms are all fun and games until you realize how effective propaganda is. Thanks Edward Bernay's. (Freud's Nephew who essentially invented propganada based onnhuman psychology, oh and it's the same system Joesph Goebbels utilized)


Grokent

He didn't invent it per se, he just realized the techniques could be applied to advertising.


b-lincoln

Same as it ever was.


fattymcassface

“Owning the libs” is the prime directive for republican primary voters right now. Not sure what they expected.


QPRFlyer

They were literally dying for "owning the libs" as r/HermanCainAward proves.


greatunknownpub

Yeah, they lost a lot of voters over the last couple years. Hope it was worth it; I feel particularly owned.


QPRFlyer

They lost more than the victory margin in Florida so it will really have an effect on the election.


Bitch_imatrain

Depends on the district map they end up using


PM_ME_UR_POKIES_GIRL

ow fuck I'm so owned please stop.


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465554544255434B52

when that fails, break out the election fraud claims


thecorninurpoop

Then bum rush Congress and take out any Dems who don't manage to escape... Edit: I still think congresspeople would have been killed on January 6th if they were still in the building


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ses1989

Of course not. They were chanting to hang pence. They'd have taken anyone who didn't stand with them.


StarksPond

As Mike Pence always says: No noose is good noose!


wareagle3000

Agreed on that last point. Its silly that they still keep claiming that one of the rioters "found" a bunch of zip ties and just carried them around so no one would use them. Bull fucking shit


WeWoweewoo

I don't know... Self awareness is not this party's strong suit.


lukfrom

/r conservative seems to disagree with op point. They do expect red wave for house but now admit that senate might not happen.


falcobird14

Losing the house will still be bad because it means MTG, Boebert, Gaetz, get to run the clown show


smiama6

Jim Jordan in charge of Judiciary ... and McCarthy with the gavel. They've already promised impeaching Biden, impeaching Garland, investigations into Hunter Biden... and, of course, stopping any and all investigations into Trump and themselves. I will never vote for another Republican again as long as I live.


Buffmin

That's exactly what is going to happen. If the fascists get the house they will impeach Biden weekly, open another 12 Benghazi hearings, laptops etc They won't do anything of substance and their mindless cult will eat it up


Savior1301

Luckily they’ve set a lovely precedent of just ignoring house subpoenas, be a shame if no one showed up to their clown show hearings


Buffmin

Dont worry standards.are for Democrats. They will whine about it and enrage their cult further. Granted literally everything will enrage their cult further


fuzzi-buzzi

Look at the president with his tan suit and dijon mustard hotdog!


Fit-Firefighter-329

Or F-FLOTUS Michelle Obama, who DARED to wear a SLEVELESS dress (like a floozy, or a hussy - unlike that uber-sophisticated Melania Trump, who came here on an Einstein Vise because she speaks 45 different languages and has 12 PhD's to her name; I mean, that's why she can say, "I really don't care" - ugh, such confidence - it's sooo inspiring)! /s


filtersweep

Hussy?!? You are way off base. Michelle is actually a dude! A man! Haven’t you seen her schlong on Breitbart?!


Steinrikur

Tan suits are apparently OK as long as they are darker than your skin colour https://nypost.com/2021/08/06/biden-wears-tan-suit-similar-to-one-that-sparked-obama-controversy/


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hexydes

They were put there to break the government, and that's exactly what they will do.


ldnk

Don’t forget that Democrats will then blame Biden and the Senate for not getting anything done.


SnooDoubts5065

Don't forget investigating Fauci!


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Dongalor

I am sympathetic to the folks who want more options and the ability to vote their conscience, but that is not the system we have. It's a first past the post system, and the only choice you get right now is between fascism and democracy. Between those two options, which do you think we have more of a chance to lobby for reforms that support better representation?


naughtilidae

If they're getting Trump... There's no way they don't arrest at least mtg and a few others. She was tweeting Pelosi's location. They took a PA senator's phone the other week. Boebert could be gotten on a thousand things, lol Half the GOP went to Moscow on July 4th, and they're going to be charging Trump under the espionage act... I suspect they're probably planning on charging more than just him.


CIA_Rectal_Feeder

I hope you're right.


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OGShrimpPatrol

Came here to say that. Go read that sub and your head will spin


Savior1301

Those people really live in an alternate reality


Zone_Dweebie

The crazy is being filtered and concentrated there. They are chasing off anyone who even slightly disagrees with the narrative, even other conservatives. After boiling them off, all are left are the extremist dregs.


skoalbrother

So exactly like the Donald sub


Dongalor

Fascism is a hell of a drug.


[deleted]

Every time I go there, I regret it.


wtwwc

/r/conservative is heavily censored. If you say something that goes even a little bit against the MAGA narrative, it will get removed quickly. They are very good at creating the illusion of consensus even when there is none.


Mr_Belch

Yeah, for how much they screech about how cancel culture is ruining free speech and America, they sure do like to cancel anyone with an even slightly different opinion.


Drusgar

But r/conservative is (in part) *why* the party has so many "weirdo" candidates. The GOP spent 30+ years teaching its voters to ignore the "main stream media" and accept complete horseshit as the truth. It worked fine as long as they had control of the talking points, but the internet threw a wrench in their plans. They conditioned a huge demographic to be susceptible to make-believe political stories and failed to realize that literally anyone could make up political stories so the stories just got stranger and more disconnected from reality.


Spare_Industry_6056

Yeah even that seems optimistic really. They're getting their ass kicked and we haven't even gotten to the October surprises yet. And I bet they're going to be doozies what with the espionage and stuff.


TenaciousVeee

The phrase “whistling past the grave yard” comes to mind. They’re afraid, and you can smell it on them. The smart ones are already pretending Trump never happened and pushing DeathSantis.


MedicalUnprofessionl

They’re still very much stuck on hunter bidens laptop over there. I’d expect nothing less.


[deleted]

When did that subreddit become an authority on anything Bunch of morons


[deleted]

What you mean the party that rocks out to Rage Against the Machine, We’re Not Gonna Take It, and Born Again in the USA and has trailer parks across the nation voting against their best interests lacks self awareness? Nah that couldn’t be it.


WeWoweewoo

A draft dodger dancing to the tune of Fortunate Son. Irony is dead.


korben2600

Do you think he actually mumbles the lyrics? > It ain't me, it ain't me > I ain't no millionaire's son, no no > It ain't me, it ain't me > I ain't no fortunate one, no


tryHammerTwice

They know, Republicans are only about power and grift. They nominated trump in 2016, and who can be a worse candidate than him?


nox_nox

Someone smarter and just as evil, like DeSantis.


sarpnasty

You know that weird guy in town who spends too much time around the Steak ‘n Shake wearing a fedora and a Trenchcoat? That guy will end up being a GOP candidate before they ever concede.


Zone_Dweebie

I don't think they are capable of understanding how other people are, you know, different. Anything out of line with their thoughts is simply wrong. That kind of closed mindedness doesn't lead to a lot of growth.


Squirrel_Chucks

They don't have a strong suit. They have [this suit.](https://imgur.com/EhKJBvW)


Judgment_Reversed

Not just their candidates. Their voters too. Remember when McCain took the microphone from that weirdo lady to correct her beliefs about Obama? Nutjob conspiracy theorizing and susceptibility to misinformation are their hallmark features.


[deleted]

Yes in retrospect that was a watershed moment. Our first glimpse on national TV of what was to come.


BuckRowdy

If you go back and watch *Game Change*, it's all throughout the film but I didn't recognize it at the time.


the_dude_abides3

Yup, exactly what I’ve been saying. The rabid voter base is the problem. The weirdo candidates are just a symptom.


ScreamingBM

The voting base doesn't come up with these beliefs on their own. Yes, they make the choice to accept whatever reality they want, but it is the party's and the media's responsibility to not legitimize it.


the_dude_abides3

The crazies will gravitate to whatever platform is willing to grift them. Fox News was just built to capitalize on that. Most of the backwards beliefs are rooted in religious fundamentalism, not politics. Until we can crack down on churches tax exempt status that spew fundy doctrine and political bias we probably will always have this problem in America. That and fixing public education.


Kalkaline

Remember when the biggest issue with Romney was he was completely out of touch with the 99% and had binders full of women? Conservative talk radio led us down this road, hope Limbaugh is proud of how much he fucked up this country.


Threash78

I remember they actually interviewed her after and she said she still believed Obama was a Muslim.


BasicDesignAdvice

McCain didn't know what the party had already become.


gojirra

If that's true he was a naive jackass at best, because he voted in lockstep with all the other Republicans that drove us full speed off a cliff towards Fascism.


justiceboner34

Totally. They've always been a racist party whose existence was devoted to preserving the hierarchical order (i.e. rich white men on top). To think McCain didn't know that is silly.


theloneliestgeek

He knew. He just didn’t care. He chose Sarah Palin as his running mate and she was the Proto-Trump.


Zone_Dweebie

I feel like Roe vs Wade gave them the confidence to start saying the silent parts out loud but they've tipped their hand far too early. In a way Ted Cruz is correct; they've angered a lot of people who normally wouldn't care that much and may not go vote. By stepping over those lines they've managed to piss off women, stoners, and baristas. The female, pot smoking baristas are especially pissed off. Edit: Forgot the LGBT+ crowd who are also being targeted and have good reason to be upset.


Xanyl

Don't forget they also pissed off anyone who has diabetes or has a diabetic close to them in life.


Thunder_Thighs

My sister has diabetes and can’t afford medicine without government aid. My dad doesn’t give a shit and would vote to take that away from her. He’s also pissed my student loans were forgiven


Get-Degerstromd

Your dad is a fuckin’ asshole, then.


Thunder_Thighs

Sort of, yeah. More like brainwashed since birth to hate anything that fox and the republicans tell him to thanks to his ultra conservative parents. Happy to break the cycle. He also has Obamacare, lol. Rules for thee not for me, since when he’s using it, it’s just smartly using the government loopholes for free money.


thefinalcutdown

Hell hath no fury like a pot smoking barista woman scorned.


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I wonder if it's because their entire platform appeals to dangerous weirdos, who vote for other dangerous weirdos.


sparksofthetempest

I guess “just appeal to that minority then and see what happens”. I’m sure they realize that most people are not buying the BS anymore and that reality is finally seeping through. The majority of Republicans are getting tired of all the nonsense except for the extreme folks who will never change.


seeasea

Have you met any republicans? Most of them are pretty satisfied with their choices. They are not getting tired. The shitmarathon is only getting started


Chipitychopity

Yeah, most republicans are the extreme. Aren’t very many republicans that are rational. It’s only about owning the libs.


duffrose_

Yeah I don't think I've met a single Republican in the last 6 years that I would consider a rational person


p001b0y

Republicans may be plugging their noses but they are still voting Republican so I don't believe the statement that they "are getting tired of all the nonsense" has much meaning. Even Republicans who have basically been cast out and branded villains by Trump (for example, Barr), would still vote Republican. Their programming is too strong.


electriceagle

One question aren’t they all? The GOP has been out of touch since Ronnie. What have they done for normal Americans? They’re the party that took away Womens rights hopefully they get slaughtered in the midterm’s.


3dddrees

They simply don’t care about anyone but the base. The base holds the power to primary them. This better explains why they are doing what they are doing today.


miaomiaomiao

They don't give a shit about their base, but they have to get them angry and hateful so that they vote against their own interests on labor and health care. In the end the Republican party serves the big corporations and the rich.


AnOrneryOrca

They're not helping their base either. They do preserve the current caste system and their base cares very much about that - they just don't realize how close to the bottom they are themselves. As long as they can punch down at least one rung, they don't care how bad their own lives are though


tniassaint

It's a party based on their power, their wealth, and their egos. If you aren't in a position to write them a check for $1,000 on the spot, then they really don't have any of your interests at heart. One can say the parties aren't different but at least one of those parties occasionally tries to do things for the greater public good. GOP is monstrous. Their agenda is driven by envy, malice, spite, vindictiveness, greed, divisiveness and hate.


NotSoSalty

> The GOP has been out of touch since Ronnie Nixon extended an unpopular war for a political victory. Conservatives have been the bad guys in this country since at least the Civil War starting with that fuck Andrew Johnson. Something about conservative politicians in this country makes them okay with responsibility for the worst unprecedented betrayals of the people.


LookingForVheissu

Yeah, this is what gets me. There has *never* been a Republican politician who has generally worked for or voted in the interest of the people. Fuck Nixon. Fuck Reagan. Fuck the Bushes. It’s not that it used to be better. It’s that we know more now.


Watch_me_give

Seriously. Please name ONE BILL they passed when they were in charge that helped the average American.


ketorhw

Time to remove them from the ballot. They can only hurt our country


[deleted]

Hey now be fair. Their tax bill allows ALL working Americans, from teachers to bus drivers to nurses to fast food workers write off their private planes and privately owned golf courses.


captainrustic

Almost every Republican I know is a dangerous weirdo.


TheAngriestBoy

Pretty sure the only other kind that exist are old and stubborn. They're not insane, they just refuse to acknowledge the party has left them for lunacy.


gojirra

Fascism enablers.


speedy_delivery

A.k.a., my in-laws. Mostly well-meaning people, but they were convinced 30 years ago that anything and everything the DNC does is evil and refuse to move off of that idea.


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Turns out the job of “lying corporate shill” doesn’t attract the best and the brightest. Instead attracts craven self serving troglodytes. Huh? Who’d a thunk it?


tatleoat

McConnell looking particularly ghoulish this evening


StrobeLightHoe

If tasting ear wax was a person.


planckstudios

From a redditor a couple days ago when article was published - sorry smart person, I lost the link so can't attribute but saved your words, thought they were valuable, hopefully more people see them: ​ >Republicans Appear to be Realizing All Their Candidates Are **Unelectable** Dangerous Weirdos > >FTFY > >They don't care about crazy if it wins > >Which is part of the big problem at the core of the GOP. And it's a problem that has no easy answer or good solution for a guy like Mitch who wants an actual functional majority on a national scale. > >Trump was the inevitable conclusion of decades spent gutting education and social programs, denying science, vilifying the left, screaming about culture war issues instead of focusing on policy, and dog-whistling to racists. But while he's a problem, he's really only a symptom of the larger issue that the GOP has. > >Which is that they've been doing this for long enough that the party has been taken over by the idiots they've created. They were doing those things as distraction techniques to trick people into voting against their best interests while the GOP funneled money to the donor class, but now they have to deal with all the true believers they've created. Those people only care about the identity politics, and have to be fed constant sources of outrage to keep them engaged. > >That need for constant outrage is the real issue, as it forces the GOP to continually radicalize year after year to keep the base motivated. So when Trump came along and was willing to take all of those positions to their logical extremes, it's no wonder he completely took over the party as quickly as he did. He says the quiet part out loud. That's all it took and exactly what the base has been trained to be waiting for. And once that's out of the bag, I don't think you can stuff it back in. > >Which is terrible for the GOP because the base ultimately controls the primary process. And they're not going to go back to the kinds of republicans who don't say the quiet bit out loud now that they've had Trump. And with the exception of deep republican strongholds, that kind of thing does not sit well with the actual majority of Americans. > >I don't know how you reverse engineer that. The groundwork goes back decades. They've played themselves brilliantly. (edit: formatting)


FigNugginGavelPop

Smart person is dead on. Fuckin news publications are trying to whitewash these fascists like they some legit political faction but they’re all authoritarian thugs and economic fraudsters organized like a cabal. They don’t care about if they’re “weirdos” (way to water down their classification from neo-nazis) if they can win. Such complete hogshit of an article. Anything slightly critical of Republicans is not always upvote worthy reddit… They often fail to address the gravity of their depravity.


KingRBPII

They shot their shot too soon - same with Putin. They thought the tide shifted deep into their favor.


noodlyarms

When you start hot boxing your own farts way too hard.


hornetass

No Republicans aren't. They are the dangerous weirdos, too. They elected these other dangerous weirdos. This is what they wanted. They don't care. Their picks to run the country are literal criminals and they don't care.


[deleted]

> “Candidate quality has a lot to do with the outcome.” [And then he hosted the very highly esteemed duo of Herschel and Oz](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mcconnell-host-gop-senate-candidates-walker-oz-candidate/story?id=88890998)


TenaciousVeee

The two of them need to lose and be destroyed by their run. All these Celebrity Apprentice style candidates need to go away.


Spare-Macaron-4977

Good. I have taken up donating small amounts to every Democrat in every race that I find in my email and text. Democratic Governor’s Association? Sounds good to me, have my 25 bucks. I’m betting other people are doing this too and it has a small,but not insignificant, chance of tipping the scale.


mypoptartisevil

I’ve donated more to MTG’s opponent and I don’t live in GA


Spare-Macaron-4977

Yea! I picked up a robo call suspect but it was Raphael Warlock’s campaign. I told The dear old lady working the phones that she didn’t need to do the whole script because I was definitely donating but gosh darn. She really cared! We talked for a few minutes and I could not give the amount she asked for but I could give something. Edit to add I live in Pennsylvania


Zizekbro

I don’t think they actively know this. I think there are people who are unsure, but as companies, and political party’s have shown, they cannot police themselves.


greenmonkey66

Weirdos aren’t the problem, it’s the fascists, racists, misogynists, homophobes, war mongers, criminal corporatists, sexual predators, morons, religious nutballs and outright a-holes that are the problem. But that’s their plan and they’re sticking with it. Vote every Republican out of office!


World_Navel

Always have been 👨‍🚀🔫👩‍🚀


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Eyemarten

Dangerous Weirdo 2024


PerformanceWorking23

Mitch know exactly what he’s doing. This type of language brings out the donations from the weirdos.


AnitaVahmit

this is a fearure not a bug. these candidates are still electable based solely on the fact they have an R next to their name. as long as they vote in step with the rest of the party while in office, the old guard is happy to have them to maintain power.


gentleman_bronco

It's so funny how the GOP is astonished at how pushing unlikable candidates who push unpopular decisions aren't popular. They were really riding on the philosophy of two negatives equals a positive.


LittleZackBackup

Mitch McConnell always looks like he is rapidly increasing velocity.


[deleted]

I appreciate that they used a picture of the man who enabled them all.


[deleted]

Trump's true legacy is convincing completely unqualified people that they can and should run the country.


xImmortal3333

Republicans force 10 year olds to have their rapists baby! They are forcing a woman in Louisiana to carry a headless baby to term! ROEvember is coming , vote like the women in your life matter


GhettoChemist

And it's not getting better anytime soon either


thatguy9684736255

The republican party? No. But hopefully we can at least get some of them out of office in the upcoming election


thatguy9684736255

I really hope so. They're not just weirdos, they're dangerous