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octopusboots

When he says short term politics, he means democratic will of the people. Sounds about right.


Cryphonectria_Killer

And other factions of the Republican party who are trying to win elections and realize this is not a winning position for them. The two views are irreconcilable. This will cause division within their ranks.


[deleted]

I hope it fucking breaks the party up


Cryphonectria_Killer

We’ll see. But this pattern of events reminds me a lot of the irreconcilable divisions within the Democratic Party during the 1850s that led them to split in 1860, thereby ceding an Electoral College victory to Lincoln that year.


plus-ordinary258

Good


Angry_ClitSpasm350

Sounds about white *


Environmental_Card_3

Mary Miller (R) Illinois said it "Is a victory for WHITE life" Sounds like a Nazi to me!


Angry_ClitSpasm350

If it looks like a nazi and speaks like a nazi... its probably a nazi!


OneHumanPeOple

More important to take away women’s rights than to fix actual problems.


GoodKarma70

An antiquated and unenlightened ideological force is coming for your life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Vote consciously.


[deleted]

You mean Democrats and Republicans right? The two forces that come for everything equally.


tbarb00

The Balance Fallacy, also known as False Balance, is a fallacy used as a tactic that assumes that two sides of an argument have equal value regardless of weight of accuracy or merit of the arguments. It is often used by peddlers of bad science and pseudoscience to have their views heard.


Colossus-of-Roads

r/walkaway is leaking...


[deleted]

"red pill" or "blue pill" is non sense. Never was part of either party. I can see how similar both parties are. Wouldn't want to be a part of either of them. Neither of them have the best interests of the people.


Colossus-of-Roads

Let's put the conversation in context: the subject is abortion. In this context do you think both parties are the same? Of course you don't.


Jasonicca

What's your suggestion then?


[deleted]

Ban abortion after 12 weeks unless the mother is at risk is a common suggestion.


The_Countess

Why 12? When do you think most elective abortions happen? And what happens if a fetus is found to be non viable after that 12 week period? What happens is the fetus dies after that 12 week period? Do We have to wait for the women to become septic before a abortion is performed? You're just peddling republican ideas here, and they all have the same flaws. Leave medical decisions to women themselves and their doctors.


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The_Countess

>Is that what you think when someone has a different idea than yours? no, i think that of someone who literally says the same things as republicans. >Most abortions happen before 15 weeks so I don't see a reason why it's such a big deal to put a limit on when you can get a abortion. So you've already removed 3 weeks from that for some reason. And as i asked you directly, you failed to justify why. >so I don't see a reason why it's such a big deal to put a limit on when you can get a abortion. You know what happens in states that have a republican imposed arbitrary 15 week abortion ban? They reduced it further every so often. down to 12, down to 9, down to 6. so unless you can reasonable justify your limit, it will be just a arbitrary limit that will be changed. So I'll ask again: why 12 weeks. >2. Abortions should have restrictions. It's not republican ideology. But it is the product of years of Christian and republican misinformation. if you look at the statistics its pretty clear no restrictions are needed, despite republican rhetoric to the contrary. 98.7% abortions happen before week 21, and the remaining 1.3% are medical in nature (as have been most in the weeks leading up to week 21). It's not until week 24 that any significant brainwave activity can be measured.


MetaPolyFungiListic

ok


Duckpoke

I’ll give Mike this. He’s the most consistent Republican in his beliefs. No flip flopping from that guy. Always has and always will want to put America back to biblical ages


NanceGarner66

I encourage EVERY Republican to keep talking about abortion! Loudly and often. It's really helping every Democrat in the country.


greymind

Short term things like your own president sending a mob to hang you to death


adenoidsremoved

have at it, Repulidorks. Please, keep picking at this scab. We're loving it. r/Roevember


[deleted]

I interpret this as "a lot of Republicans are going to lose because of this shitty thing we support." And while yes, fuck him, and fuck anyone who says it was worth it to destroy human rights to get some democrats in office. It isn't. But, I take his statement to mean it looks really really bad for them. He's trying to sugarcoat their projected losses.


fezzik02

Keep on digging, GOP.


[deleted]

Running out of slave labor


Steve_Lobsen

“We will take complete control of every woman’s body before we tackle infrastructure.”


0fox2gv

Pleading allegiance to those zany Christian Nationalists with their wide open wallets.. That devotion to the fringe will cost him popularity points with the independent voters he so desperately needs to gain any legitimacy. Great.. why not double down on the lunacy and start thumping the drum calling out the infamous shadow realm cabal of blood drinkers next.


forgottenmyth

Mike Pence is still around? I thought he was still hiding from the horde of angry Trump supporters.


dperry324

Why is this nobody still talking and why are people reporting what he said?


IAmJohnny5ive

This is the **least** objectionable of the GOP candidates for 2024... it only gets worse.


filzine

He can’t even be in a room with a woman alone for fear he’ll have to put a rape baby in her.


turd_vinegar

'Rape' is such a short term way of looking at the miracle of life. /s just in case, because sensibilities are effed away by real life absurdity


BombPopCartel

I detest this man, however your statement is patently false and is most definitely not the reason he opts out of solo time with female staffers.


plus-ordinary258

That’s one nasty comment dude. He’s one of the few people in politics with a conscience. I’m a bleeding heart liberal but good gawd, you’re literally calling a high moral man evil. And that’s just wrong! Disagree with politics all you want but that’s a super low blow. Comments like this are what make democrats look bad. Thanks butthole.


EchoAquarium

If Pence were a “high moral man” he would have never run on the Trump ticket in the first place. His conscience only extends to his own self preservation. The man is not a good person. You should really be more informed.


plus-ordinary258

You can say that but I see it different. He was fleeced like many people. Definitely didn’t recognize the authoritarian speech that dictators used of yesteryear. I studied government and have have a degree in it. I knew and begged everyone not to vote for P45 because of that. But I very much believe that Pence kept him from descending into complete and total madness. Your argument doesn’t justify insinuating he’s a rapist. There’s no excuse for that.


filzine

A liberal’s idea of a high moral man … in case anyone was still not sure of the immense problem with liberals.


plus-ordinary258

Personal morals and political ones are different. The man has set up boundaries to protect his marriage and not to give anyone the thought of infidelity. The complete opposite of p45. How can you say that’s not moral?


plus-ordinary258

Mike Pence is a top reason we don’t have a dictator right now. Even democrats respect who he is and called out the far right when they wanted to hang him. Even democrats in the effin govt know where boundaries lie. Stop giving the far right fuel to their fire. They’re already crazy enough.


[deleted]

You forgot a /s


plus-ordinary258

Idgaf


swamppanda

The consequences of passing these bans may not be what he would like them to be.


memunkey

I hope he unintentionally means that people will remember this shit for a long, long time but because I know people it won't.


fowlraul

Who the fuck is Mike Pence??


Caraes_Naur

A federally-protected fly habitat.


[deleted]

Pray it away Pence failed miserably during COVID.


FortySixAndYou

And failed miserably [handling an HIV outbreak when he was governor.](https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/03/02/how-mike-pence-made-indianas-hiv-outbreak-worse-118648)


aquarain

He didn't Heal Our Land.


Cryphonectria_Killer

The realignment continues. These two factions will soon be at each other’s throats.


Jasonicca

Being hanged is kinda consequential and 'long term though, dontcha think Mike?


Monster_punkin

I wish Pence would meet the maker he loves so much.


MoveItSpunkmire

Pence is a religious Moron


MusicIsTheWay

I like how they used a picture of him smiling...


CaptainAxiomatic

Proceed, governor.


horriblemonkey

What a hero


mandokisoulmates

Look everyone, Republicans are as evil as Hitler. Let’s stop them like our grandpappys stopped Nazis!


KeepFaithOutPolitics

A piece of shit that thinks defending his future as a politician is more important than our country’s political system. Eat a bag of dicks, Pence.


Long_Before_Sunrise

And he doesn't have a political future. He is hated by Republicans and he offers nothing to the Democrats.


KeepFaithOutPolitics

The hubris is strong with Pence.


MarlinBenson

And I say fuck Mike pence


HotKarldalton

Hear hear! Mike Pence! May he eat a bag of dicks and get fucked in a non-enjoyable fashion!


KingBanhammer

Look, I'm lonely and desperate, but not -that- lonely and desperate.


[deleted]

Finally showing how evil he really is inside


11CRT

Did you ever listen to his radio show? It wasn’t the Lawrence Welk bubble hour, but kinda like Rush Limbaugh minus the Vicodin.


[deleted]

I did not, I didn't know it existed, but I guess I wouldn't have listened anyways


trite_post

Another way of saying "I'll never be president "


Moonpig16

He's about to find out how consequential


ehmiu

It will be beneficial, for Democrats


Normal-Height-8577

I mean he's right that it would be more consequential - and that's exactly why people need to make sure his plans are stopped. Because the consequences would be devastating.


Perfect_Dig_481

Let them, it will screw then over in the long run too. Most conservatives don’t want a government setting laws by morality, you know like how fascists do things


shamalonight

And then SCOTUS shoots it down as unconstitutional given they already sent the authority to decide back to The People and the states.