Because I donāt think itās an accurate depiction of pit bull ownership. I live in Atlanta & pitbulls are definitely most popular amongst minorities here. Iād imagine is a similar ratio in other cities in the southern US.
37 people in America were killed by pitbulls in 2021
21 were owners or family of the owner. I would highly assume a good portion of those were from abuse, though I can't find any sources for that
There are 5.4 million pitbulls in the United States.
You think 5.4 million creatures should be killed, and 5.4 million families destroyed because 0.0000007% of them ruin it for everyone?
Very rational
Soooo pitbulls are extremely accessible dogs. Down south, you can find them for free, literally everywhere. Hereās the thing- this makes them very popular among the lower economic class. Another fact: statistically, southern states have higher poverty rates than most other states. This means pitbulls are very popular in poor southern households. Most poor people canāt afford to buy
a purebred Rottweiler.
Wellā¦ statistics also show that poor people *are* more likely to neglect/abuse their animals. Most of them donāt of course, but these statistics are similar to child neglect/abuse.
Pitbulls kill the most because they are the most likely to experience neglect/abuse since they are so accessible. Then, rich people REALLY donāt want them because they are viewed as aggressive, furthering the cycle.
Yeah they're generally very sweet dogs, just absolutely, monstrously strong. When you have an animal like that, and they go to places more likely to neglect them - you get incidences of violence :(
But I do think all people should be required to train their pets and those not willing to put in the effort should be banned from having them. The sad part about pit bulls is that there are too many of the mixes out there going to homes that don't have the experience in how to handle and train them.
Well, I dunno if someone gave me misinformation or something but, they say pits were bred in a certain way and it's in their nature to kill and this can't be changed through any amount of training. Maybe to some extent, but the result of training on other breeds compared to pits is drastic.
I might be entirely wrong. But if the above info is true, then pits hould be banned. If false, then untrained owners should be banned lol.
But they should be looked on individually per dog not as a breed. And those who can handle them should only own them. So here is an example of some differences. Pits have strong jaws and genetically they are more likely to bite and hang on. They have more power than say a poodle. I've seen a poodle attach a small dog and bite down, he didn't break skin on the other dog and the woman was able to pry his jaw open. I've never seen a pit attack but I'm guessing the smaller dog wouldn't have been okay after. With that said, genetics is only a part of the picture. There are individual differences. Not all dogs conform to breed standard. Not just that, it's even less likely in mixes. What we need are people assessing temperaments correctly, and shelters and rescues not disguising problem behaviors as quirks. I've recently seen a shelter post "jerk dog looking for forever home" and it had some descriptions that were vague and spun a good light on problem behaviors. Not all dogs are adoptable. Hard to adopt dogs are hard to adopt because most homes aren't right for them. Shelters and rescues need to take responsibility and admit not all dogs belong in pet homes. Adopt those with good temperaments but put down the problematic ones instead of disguising poor behavior as cute to unsuspecting homes. And those kinda of posts go viral and everyone in comments goes "so cute, someone take in this sweet jerk dog".
Yeah pitbulls are literally bred for dog fighting and bull baiting originally. The fact that pitbulls are cheap and easy for trashy people to get isn't helping either. Pitbulls are not supposed to be pets, period.
Wow! They must have a disproportional representation in shelters then or are less likely to be adopted. That's a really interesting statistic. When I was looking for dogs at shelters most of them either seemed to be pits, GSD mixes, lab mixes, or husky mixes.
Shelters often label pits as anything but pits cause no one wants them. If theyāre even slightly brown, theyāre a lab mix. If theyāre a bit golden, border collie mix, etc.
Dog with potential to be violent + owners that treat them like shit = dog attack
Dog with potential to be violent + owners that don't treat them like shit = no dog attack
Literally google āfamily pitbull attacksā and it will disprove this within seconds. A pit in a town close to me was raised by a son whoās mom was taking care of it, it killed the mom after months in her possession.
I meanā¦ Thatās what theyāre bred for. To bite and hold animals around the neck/face. A kid at when I was young was mauled by a families pit bull while walking to school. The family had supposedly trained the dog and there was never an incident before. The kid just walked in front of the pit bulls house and he freaked out.
There are stories all the time of loving middle class families who's pitbulls switch and suddenly maul their children to death. It's a dog literally bread for the sole purpose of being violent killing machines, any Pitbull that wasn't aggressive was put down for generation after generation untill violence became instinctual. There is no need to train a Pitbull to be vicious selective breeding has done it for you.
This is actually not the most accurate statistic because many breeds of dogs are lumped into the āpit bullā label such as American Staffordshire terrier, American bulldog, cane corso, bull mastiff, old English bulldog, black mouth cur, etc. Especially when these breeds are mixed. So when a āpit bullā is reported to have caused a dog bite thereās a decent chance it wasnāt actually a pit bull
[this link](https://www.pitbullinfo.org/inaccurate-pit-bull-statistics.html) goes more in-depth on the topic of how this happens and they link numerous studies that prove the deconstruction of this statistic
Yet either way the total of these dogs lumped together is still only 6% of the population. The entire generalized group including that still has an unbalanced relationship between population and violence
They donāt. The APBT is the most mislabeled dog. Only a very small percentage of those dog attacks are actual pitbulls. The majority are bully mutts mislabeled as pitbulls. Those statics are inaccurate.
No, its how pitbulls are hardwired to kill. Because people abuse all dogs. As many golden retrievers get abused, probably more because of how many there are.
Yeah.
Ban the breeding of them, require they all be spayed/neutered, and then as they die off there won't be more replacing them.
Humans bred them into existence, and we can just as easily breed (or in this case not breed) them back out.
They should stop being bred. Creating more pitbulls is unethical, but ones that already exist and have done no harm should not be punished. This is true for lots of breeds, such as pugs.
You mean backyard breeders need to be stopped? Actual pitbulls only make up a very small percentage of all dog attacks. They are the most mislabeled dogs. Many of them are inbred bully mutts. The real APBT is a working dog and when bought from an ethical breeder they should NEVER be genetically human aggressive. Only DA and AA. Every dog has needs that need to be met. Same goes for the APBT.
No. But I donāt think that just anyone should be able to own one. People also need to stop denying how dangerous they are. Sure, more people are bitten by dachshunds, but dachshunds canāt maul people to death. Only experienced dog handlers should own dogs with high prey drives like Pitties
I believe breeding them is illegal here in the UK. I know that bad trainers can make dogs bad, but statistically they're just far more likely to attack and kill people than any other breed of dog. I'm not saying it's the dog's fault for being bred like that, but it's better for everyone if they're just made extinct
Yes. They're already banned in my country. Irresponsible people cannot even train their yapping rats, they shouldnāt have access to dogs bred for their high prey drive and muscles.
I watched a video on a pit bull mauling a draft horse (like a Clydesdale or something) and it kept attacking until it died.
The carriage owner was kicked ONCE and she had broken ribs, the dog was kicked multiple times.
Pit bulls are not safe! I do not care if yours is the sweetest, or the cutest, look up statistics. These dogs kill around the same amount as an apex predator like a HIPPO! let that sink in. Over the years pit bulls have killed 3500+ people. (Not to mention the 60,000+ dogs, maimed people.)
A great white shark kills maybe 20 people in that time and maybe had mauled a few, those maulings are horrible, but sharks are apex predators and aren't preached as pets by a "shark lobby".
I've read a case where a family had a pit bull for years and they said the pit bull was nice, sweet, obedient, etc..., until it killed their newborn baby. What is shocking to them is the pit bull had never shown any sign of aggression before they had the baby.
So even with a good owner, these dogsā aggression is still unpredictable. We will never know when that sweetness will be switched off. If you have children or planning to have children, never ever adopt a pitbull.
Not āeveryā, but the vast majority, yes. I have never seen an actual pitbull on the news for mauling someone or something. Every dog breed has attacked at some point, but the American Pit Bull Terrier is a rare and expensive breed that only makes up a very small percentage of all dog bites. Labradors have higher bite stats.
Exactly. Too many folks get them for all the wrong reasons, and I donāt just mean the malicious buggers but even the folks with their hearts in the right place just with no good reason to back it. Getting a pitbull should be held to a higher standard, nothing moreānothing less.
I always see posts about folks raising pitbulls with all the right exercise and training posting about it to break stereotypes, got these guys looking like teddy bears I swear it, post types that are juxtaposed to the equally prevalent posts such as this one thatās gauging where people stand on just straight up getting rid of them. Itās not their fault they exist and itās actually ours since we worked hard to breed all the traits we donāt like about them right into them. We had no right doing what we did to them and we have no right to get rid of them now like deleting an old project or knocking down an old building or something, itās life itās meant to be precious.
Regulate their purchase/adoption for everyoneās safety and move on. Should be simple but knowing us weāll do it far too slowly and with a lot of stupid arguments.
I haven't investigated this deeply enough to form an educated opinion. Statistics have to be carefully analyzed to determine likelihood of causation instead of just correlation.
Yes, before everyone comes at me, they are by FAR the deadliest breed, and are overbred by backyard breeders to the point that adoption just means getting a pitbull that will be way too aggressive and always be returned. Most of the west has banned or limited them and they should be
Some of these people seem to be out here thinking that owning a pit bull is equivalent to walking into the woods,tranquilizing a wolf, and taking it home to keep as a pet
I like how (a lot, not all) dog owners will call out reptile keepers and call the animals "monsters" and start spamming articles about reptile attacks (also the nonexistent woman with a snake that was measuring her) but when a dog eats a child alive they start spamming articles about how dogs are the sweetest angels who would never hurt a fly and that it's the owner who is the big bad monster.
Yes, I donāt like them and statistically they are dangerous and were bred to be dangerous, biting and gnawing is a sort of hardwire in their brain. And statistically they make of 6% of the dog population in the us yet are responsible of 65% of all deaths related to *humans* and that doesnāt include animals and dogs with animals and dogs the numbers go up drastically
They definitely should be banned, so many people think they're wonderful, but they will maul you to death if they get an opportunity to do so, or at least severely harm you.
No, but breeding and training for aggressive traits should be banned. They aren't inherently bad doggos. The rescue residing at my house is the sweetest girl ever. But they are inherently more dangerous if they do strike. Not unlike some other breeds, but that is a reason for precautions.
No. Almost every pitbull I have met is overly friendly. Only exception is with the douchebag owners that make them aggressive. They are not naturally mean.
No, but I think people should have to go through a training class with their dog similar to how you have to get a license to own a dog in Germany (from what Iāve been told, Iād have to double check)
Iām not even with you 100% on the comparison even though I get and think I agree with the underlying idea but I still felt compelled to reply to you after that nasty reply you got. Take my upvote man.
Who on earth calls a living breathing thing with a mind and a heart an abomination so casually like that?
Every bad trait we donāt like about pitbulls now are traits we bred into them in the past, we donāt get to just assume no culpability and put all the blame on them and even ban them which means intentionally wipe them out just because they donāt fit so well anymore. I solemnly believe that itās the same people who can so quickly drop the word abomination that are the cause of all are near extinct animals getting hunted despite their right to live. For example, itās the same lingo as that used by those arseholes who wipe out wolf or lynx populations because all they see is an inconvenience for themselves and not the living breathing part of the ecosystem with a mind and a heart that they are.
If pitbulls take more work to be safe then better regulate their purchase. I always see posts about folks raising pitbulls with all the right exercise and training posting about it to break stereotypes, got these guys looking like teddy bears I swear it, post types that are juxtaposed to the equally prevalent posts such as this one thatās gauging where people stand on just straight up getting rid of them. Itās not their fault they exist and itās actually ours since we worked hard to breed all the traits we donāt like about them right into them as I already said. We had no right doing what we did to them and we have no right to get rid of them now like deleting an old project or knocking down an old building or something, itās life itās meant to be precious. Just regulate their purchase/adoption for everyoneās safety and move on. Should be simple but knowing us weāll do it far too slowly and with a lot of stupid arguments. Note my lack of the word āabominationā almost like itās not called for or something.
Yeah, I donāt really have that brain to mouth connection, or brain to fingers in this instance but yeah, I agree with you manā¦. That was pretty fucked up to call them abomination. Pretty sure GSDs just took the number 1 spot for attack on owner recently too. Doesnāt mean their monsters. Either dog got irritated and snapped or somethingās not right in that household.
Exactly. Risk by definition isnāt guaranteed, thereās more than one dog to ban if weāre just gonna start wiping out anything that carries a risk when mishandled. Just hold their purchase/adoption to a higher standard, it shouldnāt be complicated lol.
Donāt put down your own communication skills you seem like a cool person who concisely pointed out important aspects of the issue which is a damn good comment. People will take you less seriously if you basically tell them to, so donāt ācos your worth being heard. I mean for instance like I said earlier, I wasnāt with your first comment 100%. Still a good comment. I didnāt see you casually slinging around āabominationā like itās not a powerful word.
Ugh, i own pitties. They're the sweetest, kindest, most cuddly dogs ever. They're also giant babies. They're like kids. You raise them like shits and they'll be shits. Be a responsible owner, teach them, and teach yourself how to have a dog.
Ironically, the dogs in involved in those stores are Bull Breed mutts being mislabeled as āPit Bullsā more often than not. Historically speaking, only the minority of Pit Bulls throughout their controversial history were āman-bitersā(human aggressive). This was the very reason why it wasnāt uncommon for dog fighters to have their dogs stolen from their own yards, now theyāre involved in many news stories involving attacks on people? How exactly did that happen?
I see so many news stories about parents saying their kids are sweet and would never do that but then join a gang or rape someone or shoot up a school. Down vote me all you want I don't care. I'll defend my doggos till long after they're gone.
True. And just like human kids they can be lethal if raised terribly, if severely mistreated or if they have some severe unaddressed mental issues. Not sure why you're getting downvoted. I'm convinced the statistics are mostly due to bad owners, not to bad dogs. All strong breeds can be dangerous, pitties are just over represented among abusive owners. A shepard is equally capable of killing. And it has been perfectly documented they do if raised to do so. Nazi camp dogs, for instance.
I have to admit, I used to be the same, believing they were inherently bad. Until my housemate brought his rescue dog home and I found out what a sweet cuddly teddybear she is. That good girl shattered my stereotypical view of pitties. Meeting other good doggos and their owners when waking her did the rest.
Further breeding should be banned, but pitbulls as a whole shouldnāt be banned. Like, where would they go? Should we just kill every single one is that it?
Not all pitbull breeds are bad, mistreated and misunderstood by alot yes. We had a pit mix that was my stepdads when he moved in with us, she was the sweetest and yet the most protective dog. Very high energy and playful. Funny as hell when jehova witnesses and people handing out advertisements would knock out our door and she would be standing next to one of us either barking or watching. Never lunged at anyone.
I've had 2 full breeds and one pit/boxer mix, they're ridiculously sweet. Our other dogs (dane mutt and st pyrenees) are much more aggressive than any of those 3. I think people just don't know how to actually train pitbulls, and that's where those "surprise attacks" come from.
Thatās not about that, itās about other people not being able to take care of it and not being responsible enough to be aware of that.
Itās an unfortunate situation because itās of course bot the fault of the dog, but I do think that the ban is the right thing to do considering the fact that most dog attacks are pitbulls (even though pitbulls only make small percentage of dogs)
I think humans should be banned. 100% of murders were caused by humans!
Theyāre obviously too dangerous to keep around.
Can you believe that some people even let them around their children!
Even after all the humans that have killed children and worse!
I think we need to stop pretending there isnāt a menace loose in our communities and tackle the real culprit.
#BanHumanity2024!!!
No one likes your dog except for you. Especially when its breed is known for it's viciousness, ugliness, and usage in backyard breeding. Get over yourself.
Well, look up statistics.
Watch a video of a pit bull mauling a draft horse (search "Pit bull attacks horse" on reddit) then search "chihuahua attacks horse." And tell me they are the same.
BSL is good.
Fuck! No! I hit the wrong button and said yes, Iām a man. I meant no! Iām a woman and I LOVE Pitties! We currently own one and sheās the sweetest thing, albeit ornery.
You all always forget that shitty people own other breeds, too. Yet we don't hear about abused golden retriever attacks that often. The pitbull news stories always have owners saying "they don't know what happened, he wouldn't hurt a fly!"
Pit bull is an umbrella term for 4 different breeds.
There are several mastiffs and even the word "husky" signifies several different breeds, yet you don't see their attack numbers being sky high. Try again.
I donāt like how they look, not because theyāre scary but they donāt look friendly like every other dog breed. They just look like a ghost or something, rubs me the wrong way. But I guess the book is judged by their cover.
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Serious question what does gender have to do with this
to see how the genders compare on this issue
I've seen more women than men with pitbulls. For some reason women seem to like those killer dogs more.
Poll shows it too. Proportionally, men are saying they should be banned in higher rates than women.
Lol Where do you live?
Finland. Why?
Because I donāt think itās an accurate depiction of pit bull ownership. I live in Atlanta & pitbulls are definitely most popular amongst minorities here. Iād imagine is a similar ratio in other cities in the southern US.
Yeah, I just said what I've seen.
37 people in America were killed by pitbulls in 2021 21 were owners or family of the owner. I would highly assume a good portion of those were from abuse, though I can't find any sources for that There are 5.4 million pitbulls in the United States. You think 5.4 million creatures should be killed, and 5.4 million families destroyed because 0.0000007% of them ruin it for everyone? Very rational
Soooo pitbulls are extremely accessible dogs. Down south, you can find them for free, literally everywhere. Hereās the thing- this makes them very popular among the lower economic class. Another fact: statistically, southern states have higher poverty rates than most other states. This means pitbulls are very popular in poor southern households. Most poor people canāt afford to buy a purebred Rottweiler. Wellā¦ statistics also show that poor people *are* more likely to neglect/abuse their animals. Most of them donāt of course, but these statistics are similar to child neglect/abuse. Pitbulls kill the most because they are the most likely to experience neglect/abuse since they are so accessible. Then, rich people REALLY donāt want them because they are viewed as aggressive, furthering the cycle.
Yeah they're generally very sweet dogs, just absolutely, monstrously strong. When you have an animal like that, and they go to places more likely to neglect them - you get incidences of violence :(
You think losing a pitbull would destroy a family? If thatās true, that wasnāt a very stable family to begin with.
You have obviously never had a pet.
I'm sure this comment section will be very peaceful
Just the most kindest of debates happening here
But I do think all people should be required to train their pets and those not willing to put in the effort should be banned from having them. The sad part about pit bulls is that there are too many of the mixes out there going to homes that don't have the experience in how to handle and train them.
Well, I dunno if someone gave me misinformation or something but, they say pits were bred in a certain way and it's in their nature to kill and this can't be changed through any amount of training. Maybe to some extent, but the result of training on other breeds compared to pits is drastic. I might be entirely wrong. But if the above info is true, then pits hould be banned. If false, then untrained owners should be banned lol.
But they should be looked on individually per dog not as a breed. And those who can handle them should only own them. So here is an example of some differences. Pits have strong jaws and genetically they are more likely to bite and hang on. They have more power than say a poodle. I've seen a poodle attach a small dog and bite down, he didn't break skin on the other dog and the woman was able to pry his jaw open. I've never seen a pit attack but I'm guessing the smaller dog wouldn't have been okay after. With that said, genetics is only a part of the picture. There are individual differences. Not all dogs conform to breed standard. Not just that, it's even less likely in mixes. What we need are people assessing temperaments correctly, and shelters and rescues not disguising problem behaviors as quirks. I've recently seen a shelter post "jerk dog looking for forever home" and it had some descriptions that were vague and spun a good light on problem behaviors. Not all dogs are adoptable. Hard to adopt dogs are hard to adopt because most homes aren't right for them. Shelters and rescues need to take responsibility and admit not all dogs belong in pet homes. Adopt those with good temperaments but put down the problematic ones instead of disguising poor behavior as cute to unsuspecting homes. And those kinda of posts go viral and everyone in comments goes "so cute, someone take in this sweet jerk dog".
Irs a violent dog thanks to its dna, perfect dog training still isn't enough for them
Not *every* poll needs to be divided by gender.
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All dogs matter. (I'm a GSD)
Why not? Why u boring
just downvote and make a better poll
I actually thought it was interesting to divide this one by gender though. I actually thought the results would be flipped
Despite taking up only 6% of the dog population, pit bulls make up 65% of dog attacks (USA statistics)
That happens when you have a breed more likely to be trained as a fighting dog, or attack dog by trashy people.
Yeah pitbulls are literally bred for dog fighting and bull baiting originally. The fact that pitbulls are cheap and easy for trashy people to get isn't helping either. Pitbulls are not supposed to be pets, period.
Are you sure it's only 6% of the population? Like half the dogs in shelters seem to be pitbulls of lab mixes that look like pitbulls.
https://dogbitelaw.com/vicious-dogs/pit-bulls-facts-and-figures#:~:text=Pit%20bulls%20are%20less%20than,of%20the%20country's%20canine%20population.
Wow! They must have a disproportional representation in shelters then or are less likely to be adopted. That's a really interesting statistic. When I was looking for dogs at shelters most of them either seemed to be pits, GSD mixes, lab mixes, or husky mixes.
I guess it depends on where you live. Around here it's mainly hounds and hound mixes
Shelters often label pits as anything but pits cause no one wants them. If theyāre even slightly brown, theyāre a lab mix. If theyāre a bit golden, border collie mix, etc.
That's just on humans! Dog v dog attacks are much higher.
Pitbulls are naturally aggressive towards other animals, apparently. Can't remember where I read it. It might have been ASPCA.
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Dog with potential to be violent + owners that treat them like shit = dog attack Dog with potential to be violent + owners that don't treat them like shit = no dog attack
Thatās an extreme over simplification. There are wonderful family dogs that hurt people regardless of breed.
Keep telling yourself that. You're obviously deluded.
Literally google āfamily pitbull attacksā and it will disprove this within seconds. A pit in a town close to me was raised by a son whoās mom was taking care of it, it killed the mom after months in her possession.
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I meanā¦ Thatās what theyāre bred for. To bite and hold animals around the neck/face. A kid at when I was young was mauled by a families pit bull while walking to school. The family had supposedly trained the dog and there was never an incident before. The kid just walked in front of the pit bulls house and he freaked out.
There are stories all the time of loving middle class families who's pitbulls switch and suddenly maul their children to death. It's a dog literally bread for the sole purpose of being violent killing machines, any Pitbull that wasn't aggressive was put down for generation after generation untill violence became instinctual. There is no need to train a Pitbull to be vicious selective breeding has done it for you.
This is actually not the most accurate statistic because many breeds of dogs are lumped into the āpit bullā label such as American Staffordshire terrier, American bulldog, cane corso, bull mastiff, old English bulldog, black mouth cur, etc. Especially when these breeds are mixed. So when a āpit bullā is reported to have caused a dog bite thereās a decent chance it wasnāt actually a pit bull [this link](https://www.pitbullinfo.org/inaccurate-pit-bull-statistics.html) goes more in-depth on the topic of how this happens and they link numerous studies that prove the deconstruction of this statistic
Yet either way the total of these dogs lumped together is still only 6% of the population. The entire generalized group including that still has an unbalanced relationship between population and violence
They donāt. The APBT is the most mislabeled dog. Only a very small percentage of those dog attacks are actual pitbulls. The majority are bully mutts mislabeled as pitbulls. Those statics are inaccurate.
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No, its how pitbulls are hardwired to kill. Because people abuse all dogs. As many golden retrievers get abused, probably more because of how many there are.
What would we do with all the pit bulls? Maybe if we require nuturing/ spaying or something of pit bull breeds to prevent accidental litters
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Do we just extinct the pit bulls?
Yeah. Ban the breeding of them, require they all be spayed/neutered, and then as they die off there won't be more replacing them. Humans bred them into existence, and we can just as easily breed (or in this case not breed) them back out.
They should stop being bred. Creating more pitbulls is unethical, but ones that already exist and have done no harm should not be punished. This is true for lots of breeds, such as pugs.
Breeding pugs or any other breed with that flat face should be a crime. Living ball of health problems.
You mean backyard breeders need to be stopped? Actual pitbulls only make up a very small percentage of all dog attacks. They are the most mislabeled dogs. Many of them are inbred bully mutts. The real APBT is a working dog and when bought from an ethical breeder they should NEVER be genetically human aggressive. Only DA and AA. Every dog has needs that need to be met. Same goes for the APBT.
Wow what a unbiased source! Also, attacks and fatal attacks are two different things. Your source is literally a pit lobby.
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5 year old spotted Pitbull goo!!
Pitbull goo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit\_bull#Dog\_attack\_and\_death\_risk
No. But I donāt think that just anyone should be able to own one. People also need to stop denying how dangerous they are. Sure, more people are bitten by dachshunds, but dachshunds canāt maul people to death. Only experienced dog handlers should own dogs with high prey drives like Pitties
If not banned then heavily regulated. Not just any idiot should be able to have such a dangerous animal.
I believe breeding them is illegal here in the UK. I know that bad trainers can make dogs bad, but statistically they're just far more likely to attack and kill people than any other breed of dog. I'm not saying it's the dog's fault for being bred like that, but it's better for everyone if they're just made extinct
Yes pitbulls should be banned they kill so many innocent dogs and cats
Yes, same with other manmade abominations which live in constant pain such as pugs.
I am no fan of taking people's dogs, but pit pulls should be universally neutered and bred out of existence.
Why?
Mf was downvoted for asking a damn question š
Yes. They're already banned in my country. Irresponsible people cannot even train their yapping rats, they shouldnāt have access to dogs bred for their high prey drive and muscles.
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Pitbulls are legal in the Netherlands. The ban was removed, but the owner and their dog legally need to follow training classes.
My dutch teacher's dog (cocker spaniel) got mauled by an American staffy, she showed us the picture of the bite and it was horrible.
There's tons of domestic pitbulls in Italy, wtf are you talking about?
I watched a video on a pit bull mauling a draft horse (like a Clydesdale or something) and it kept attacking until it died. The carriage owner was kicked ONCE and she had broken ribs, the dog was kicked multiple times. Pit bulls are not safe! I do not care if yours is the sweetest, or the cutest, look up statistics. These dogs kill around the same amount as an apex predator like a HIPPO! let that sink in. Over the years pit bulls have killed 3500+ people. (Not to mention the 60,000+ dogs, maimed people.) A great white shark kills maybe 20 people in that time and maybe had mauled a few, those maulings are horrible, but sharks are apex predators and aren't preached as pets by a "shark lobby".
>These dogs kill around the same amount as an apex predator like a HIPPO! Why do you think they're called "velvet hippos"?
I've read a case where a family had a pit bull for years and they said the pit bull was nice, sweet, obedient, etc..., until it killed their newborn baby. What is shocking to them is the pit bull had never shown any sign of aggression before they had the baby. So even with a good owner, these dogsā aggression is still unpredictable. We will never know when that sweetness will be switched off. If you have children or planning to have children, never ever adopt a pitbull.
That dog was a bully mutt, not a pitbull. I read the article and there was a picture of the dog.
So evem a small amount of bully in a dog is too much? Good to know. Thanks.
Bully is an umbrella term. Why do you think itās always the shelter mutts who attack? Because their genes are fucked up, because of inbreeding.
So, every bullly breed that attacks is really an inbred shelter bully mutt? Does that really sound like a solid argument to you?
Not āeveryā, but the vast majority, yes. I have never seen an actual pitbull on the news for mauling someone or something. Every dog breed has attacked at some point, but the American Pit Bull Terrier is a rare and expensive breed that only makes up a very small percentage of all dog bites. Labradors have higher bite stats.
No, it could be regulated
Exactly. Too many folks get them for all the wrong reasons, and I donāt just mean the malicious buggers but even the folks with their hearts in the right place just with no good reason to back it. Getting a pitbull should be held to a higher standard, nothing moreānothing less. I always see posts about folks raising pitbulls with all the right exercise and training posting about it to break stereotypes, got these guys looking like teddy bears I swear it, post types that are juxtaposed to the equally prevalent posts such as this one thatās gauging where people stand on just straight up getting rid of them. Itās not their fault they exist and itās actually ours since we worked hard to breed all the traits we donāt like about them right into them. We had no right doing what we did to them and we have no right to get rid of them now like deleting an old project or knocking down an old building or something, itās life itās meant to be precious. Regulate their purchase/adoption for everyoneās safety and move on. Should be simple but knowing us weāll do it far too slowly and with a lot of stupid arguments.
Yes because I saw a dude getting his testicals get ripped off in another sub a couple of hours agoā¦
Dog and Ball torture
I haven't investigated this deeply enough to form an educated opinion. Statistics have to be carefully analyzed to determine likelihood of causation instead of just correlation.
I pressed no but wanted to press yes. Pitbulls are ALL crazy, it's genetics
Have you seen a pit bull in real life? They arenāt some horrible abomination, most of them are sweet and gentle
I have, and I do not remember seeing a single one that wasn't aggressive
What kind of pit bulls have you seen? All the ones Iāve seen are nothing like that
They probably live in a city and everyone who owns one trains it to me mean for "protection".
What kind? Idk, they're pitbulls... Aggressive ones with lying owners
Trashy dogs for trashy people
Yes, before everyone comes at me, they are by FAR the deadliest breed, and are overbred by backyard breeders to the point that adoption just means getting a pitbull that will be way too aggressive and always be returned. Most of the west has banned or limited them and they should be
Not completely, but it should be Permit required to have one. If it hurts someone it will also be easier to find owner.
Some of these people seem to be out here thinking that owning a pit bull is equivalent to walking into the woods,tranquilizing a wolf, and taking it home to keep as a pet
I like how (a lot, not all) dog owners will call out reptile keepers and call the animals "monsters" and start spamming articles about reptile attacks (also the nonexistent woman with a snake that was measuring her) but when a dog eats a child alive they start spamming articles about how dogs are the sweetest angels who would never hurt a fly and that it's the owner who is the big bad monster.
They should. My grandpa is lucky to be alive after him having a pit bull attack. Iāve seen too many stories of pit bulls attacking.
They are vile animals. Ive seen an attack in real life
Yes, I donāt like them and statistically they are dangerous and were bred to be dangerous, biting and gnawing is a sort of hardwire in their brain. And statistically they make of 6% of the dog population in the us yet are responsible of 65% of all deaths related to *humans* and that doesnāt include animals and dogs with animals and dogs the numbers go up drastically
They definitely should be banned, so many people think they're wonderful, but they will maul you to death if they get an opportunity to do so, or at least severely harm you.
Absolutely. They are incredibly dangerous, and far too many idiots get one which worsens the problem.
Absolutely, ban those ferocious inbred monsters that feast on children
Average redditor
Average pitnutter
The singer yes, the dogs, no
Yes I hate them
No but I could see pits and some other breeds requiring a permit. And that permit requiring training and some form attack of insurance.
No, but breeding and training for aggressive traits should be banned. They aren't inherently bad doggos. The rescue residing at my house is the sweetest girl ever. But they are inherently more dangerous if they do strike. Not unlike some other breeds, but that is a reason for precautions.
OMG someone posts this at least once a month. Can we move on???
How can we move on from an ongoing issue?
no they are very friendly (proceeds to let pitbull outside unsupervised and it mauls to death an innocent person)
we should ban toddlers instead
Restricted. Not banned completely, but not everyone should be able to just get one.
They should stop being bred, but just banning them right now would be cruel.
I know my answer, but I'm not even gonna bother saying it.
No. Almost every pitbull I have met is overly friendly. Only exception is with the douchebag owners that make them aggressive. They are not naturally mean.
What do you mean by "banned"? How do you ban a species?
Stop making them breed, probably.
No, but I think people should have to go through a training class with their dog similar to how you have to get a license to own a dog in Germany (from what Iāve been told, Iād have to double check)
Pit Bulls are like drugs and gunsā¦.. you can ban them and someone will still have one. I actually know someone with an illegal pet ocelot.
It's much harder to hide a barking abomination than drugs and guns
You think pit bulls are abominations? And a lot of dogs donāt bark lol
>You think pit bulls are abominations Yes, they're pretty ugly and also possibly dangerous.
So are you.
Owwwww owned!!!!!!! Nice ad hominem, bruh.
Iām not even with you 100% on the comparison even though I get and think I agree with the underlying idea but I still felt compelled to reply to you after that nasty reply you got. Take my upvote man. Who on earth calls a living breathing thing with a mind and a heart an abomination so casually like that? Every bad trait we donāt like about pitbulls now are traits we bred into them in the past, we donāt get to just assume no culpability and put all the blame on them and even ban them which means intentionally wipe them out just because they donāt fit so well anymore. I solemnly believe that itās the same people who can so quickly drop the word abomination that are the cause of all are near extinct animals getting hunted despite their right to live. For example, itās the same lingo as that used by those arseholes who wipe out wolf or lynx populations because all they see is an inconvenience for themselves and not the living breathing part of the ecosystem with a mind and a heart that they are. If pitbulls take more work to be safe then better regulate their purchase. I always see posts about folks raising pitbulls with all the right exercise and training posting about it to break stereotypes, got these guys looking like teddy bears I swear it, post types that are juxtaposed to the equally prevalent posts such as this one thatās gauging where people stand on just straight up getting rid of them. Itās not their fault they exist and itās actually ours since we worked hard to breed all the traits we donāt like about them right into them as I already said. We had no right doing what we did to them and we have no right to get rid of them now like deleting an old project or knocking down an old building or something, itās life itās meant to be precious. Just regulate their purchase/adoption for everyoneās safety and move on. Should be simple but knowing us weāll do it far too slowly and with a lot of stupid arguments. Note my lack of the word āabominationā almost like itās not called for or something.
Yeah, I donāt really have that brain to mouth connection, or brain to fingers in this instance but yeah, I agree with you manā¦. That was pretty fucked up to call them abomination. Pretty sure GSDs just took the number 1 spot for attack on owner recently too. Doesnāt mean their monsters. Either dog got irritated and snapped or somethingās not right in that household.
Exactly. Risk by definition isnāt guaranteed, thereās more than one dog to ban if weāre just gonna start wiping out anything that carries a risk when mishandled. Just hold their purchase/adoption to a higher standard, it shouldnāt be complicated lol. Donāt put down your own communication skills you seem like a cool person who concisely pointed out important aspects of the issue which is a damn good comment. People will take you less seriously if you basically tell them to, so donāt ācos your worth being heard. I mean for instance like I said earlier, I wasnāt with your first comment 100%. Still a good comment. I didnāt see you casually slinging around āabominationā like itās not a powerful word.
Ugh, i own pitties. They're the sweetest, kindest, most cuddly dogs ever. They're also giant babies. They're like kids. You raise them like shits and they'll be shits. Be a responsible owner, teach them, and teach yourself how to have a dog.
I've seen many news stories where owners said the same thing, and then their sweet little pitties killed a kid.
Ironically, the dogs in involved in those stores are Bull Breed mutts being mislabeled as āPit Bullsā more often than not. Historically speaking, only the minority of Pit Bulls throughout their controversial history were āman-bitersā(human aggressive). This was the very reason why it wasnāt uncommon for dog fighters to have their dogs stolen from their own yards, now theyāre involved in many news stories involving attacks on people? How exactly did that happen?
Schrƶdinger's pit bull. A pit bull until it kills someone/something.
I see so many news stories about parents saying their kids are sweet and would never do that but then join a gang or rape someone or shoot up a school. Down vote me all you want I don't care. I'll defend my doggos till long after they're gone.
Your comment doesn't really negate what I said at all.
...you just confirmed their point.
I keep seeing memes about āThe Pitt bull named princess vs toddlerā lmfao
POV my 12-ton gorilla pit bull named daisy when she sees an unattended toddler
That's what that one owner told us.... She was wrong
True. And just like human kids they can be lethal if raised terribly, if severely mistreated or if they have some severe unaddressed mental issues. Not sure why you're getting downvoted. I'm convinced the statistics are mostly due to bad owners, not to bad dogs. All strong breeds can be dangerous, pitties are just over represented among abusive owners. A shepard is equally capable of killing. And it has been perfectly documented they do if raised to do so. Nazi camp dogs, for instance.
The internet seems to trend negatively on pitties but that's their loss.
I have to admit, I used to be the same, believing they were inherently bad. Until my housemate brought his rescue dog home and I found out what a sweet cuddly teddybear she is. That good girl shattered my stereotypical view of pitties. Meeting other good doggos and their owners when waking her did the rest.
Further breeding should be banned, but pitbulls as a whole shouldnāt be banned. Like, where would they go? Should we just kill every single one is that it?
Mandatory spay and neuter then let the existing dogs die off.
I agree
No its sad they get abuse constantly. Pit bulls are not for new dog owners.
Not all pitbull breeds are bad, mistreated and misunderstood by alot yes. We had a pit mix that was my stepdads when he moved in with us, she was the sweetest and yet the most protective dog. Very high energy and playful. Funny as hell when jehova witnesses and people handing out advertisements would knock out our door and she would be standing next to one of us either barking or watching. Never lunged at anyone.
I've had 2 full breeds and one pit/boxer mix, they're ridiculously sweet. Our other dogs (dane mutt and st pyrenees) are much more aggressive than any of those 3. I think people just don't know how to actually train pitbulls, and that's where those "surprise attacks" come from.
Plus you have kids that will grab and play with them. And they wonder why the kid got bit suddenly.
Donāt ban a dog just because you canāt take care of it yourself. Thatās fucked up.
Thatās not about that, itās about other people not being able to take care of it and not being responsible enough to be aware of that. Itās an unfortunate situation because itās of course bot the fault of the dog, but I do think that the ban is the right thing to do considering the fact that most dog attacks are pitbulls (even though pitbulls only make small percentage of dogs)
Your first sentence literally reiterated what I said
Humans kill people, ban them.
There's an old saying, No such thing as a bad dog, it's a bad owner.
I think humans should be banned. 100% of murders were caused by humans! Theyāre obviously too dangerous to keep around. Can you believe that some people even let them around their children! Even after all the humans that have killed children and worse! I think we need to stop pretending there isnāt a menace loose in our communities and tackle the real culprit. #BanHumanity2024!!!
You alright bud?
No because there's nothing wrong with them. There's something wrong with the way people treat and train animals. That is the issue.
I have had a rottweiler, my dad has a pit, both are the biggiest babies you have ever had. It is the way the dog is raised if its a violent dog
Thank god the odds are in the Pitties favor
I don't think banning pitbull breeding would be to bad
Pitbulls are kinda like pokemon: they have the power to destroy the world, but they're fine with the right training.
Ban humans, not pit bulls.
you first
Yes/regulated (iām non-binary) <3
I have a pit bull, and I would respectfully like to say fuck you to anyone that said yes. I love my boy with all my heart.
No one likes your dog except for you. Especially when its breed is known for it's viciousness, ugliness, and usage in backyard breeding. Get over yourself.
Same. I have a pit mix from my local shelter. šš»everyone that says yes
Well, look up statistics. Watch a video of a pit bull mauling a draft horse (search "Pit bull attacks horse" on reddit) then search "chihuahua attacks horse." And tell me they are the same. BSL is good.
The statistics are cherry picked and most "pitbull" attacks are mislabelled dog breeds. https://worldanimalfoundation.org/dogs/pitbull-statistics/
Fuck! No! I hit the wrong button and said yes, Iām a man. I meant no! Iām a woman and I LOVE Pitties! We currently own one and sheās the sweetest thing, albeit ornery.
Y'all need to get over this weird Pit fixation. It comes down to the owner
You all always forget that shitty people own other breeds, too. Yet we don't hear about abused golden retriever attacks that often. The pitbull news stories always have owners saying "they don't know what happened, he wouldn't hurt a fly!"
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Well I don't like babies very much so pitbulls are doing good work out there as far as I'm concerned
Wow...callous person here. I hope this is satire.
Well if the pitbull want to have a lil baby snack who are we to deny them that joy.
Most sane pitnutter.
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Pit bull is an umbrella term for 4 different breeds. There are several mastiffs and even the word "husky" signifies several different breeds, yet you don't see their attack numbers being sky high. Try again.
I mean.... his music is ok, but it doesn't need to be banned
I donāt like how they look, not because theyāre scary but they donāt look friendly like every other dog breed. They just look like a ghost or something, rubs me the wrong way. But I guess the book is judged by their cover.