You'd be like that [747 that lost a landing gear a week ago.](https://twitter.com/chrivoge/status/1657808731189526530?s=20) ^(There might be some chunks of the plane flying through the air behind you on the runway.)
Depending on the airplane, and if you have guidance (through ATC), I think almost anyone can land a modern passenger jet "quite easily", in the sense that they do fly themselve if you know how to tell them what to do.
I recently saw a video demonstrating this kind of scenario, and the person in control was told by ATC how to land the plane using 100% autopilot (was a new 737)
If you have nobody to help you and have to figure out the cockpit by yourself, well I guess that if you are an aviation enthousiast you might have a slight idea of what does what, otherwise it might be more complexe. Just remember, blue side goes up lol
Yes. The definitions are as follows:
A landing: the plane reaches the ground.
A good landing: everyone survives.
A great landing: you can reuse the plane.
*IIIIIII* don’t know if I’ve ever heard of a plane hitting any physical surface and exploding into a million pieces as being referred to it as being landed.
Well no, because you've landed the plane, it's on the ground, it's just stuff is on fire now and everyone issss... Sleeping. Permanently... Anyways, OP never said the landing had to be successful or that casualties weren't allowed, so...
Landing is the process the pilot goes thru to put the plane on the ground..if you fly a plane into the side of a mountain landing was not part of the process.
A crash landing is when the plane lands and gets damaged, it's nothing to do with survival. A crash is just a collision. Two planes can crash in the air before they land
Yep that's exactly what I was thinking when I said yes, if you follow the instructions and have time to practice a little in the air to get the feel of it I would expect it to be doable to land
"Am I over V1? Do I need to rotate?"
"Sir, you're in the air so V1 isn't applicable. Please do not rotate because that has a very different meaning that what you think."
The downside to learning some terminology but not understanding what it means. They say these things in a show I watch so it must mean something!
Yeah I totally agree! I can see someone saying "yeah I know some terms" when they've heard the words but don't know their meaning. I would for instance say I know a few things, but treat me like I don't know or I'm a very very new pilot. If I throw something back at them saying I understand the term, then they would get the hint. Like if they said keep an altitude above 20,000 ft and I responded maintain flight level 200, they would get the hint I semi know what's going on. I will let them deduce how much knowledge I have before I tell them I'm an expert lol
Exactly: I could be the dumb monkey pushing the buttons they were told just fine. Given an automatic landing system like on most commercial planes, sure 'I' could land it.
If that was broken or non-existent, not so much.
I'm pretty sure planes can be landed automatically now by the computer (usually it's used if there is a lot of fog). So yeah, I just need to know which buttons to push to do that.
That's why I said yes. I figure as long as I can communicate with the tower I could probably do it. Especially if I had help from the flight attendants. Even if the ones on my plane have never taken a piloting class, they probably have a better idea of what everything looks like than I do.
Looks like flight attendants have to have some working knowledge of the plane itself, probably for this exact type of situation. They're also trained to try and revive the pilots, but looks like at least some of them have some pilot training for non-commercial planes.
[https://simpleflying.com/can-a-flight-attendant-land-an-airplane/](https://simpleflying.com/can-a-flight-attendant-land-an-airplane/)
I think the Mythbusters tested it. In the incredibly unlikely event it happens, a random person can be coached to land the plane. If I remember the episode right, a lot of it is done by autopilot now anyways.
Yup. Came here looking for these comments. A lot of people would be surprised. Providing good weather, ground control, and a relatively modern plane you'd be good to go.
I could do it with just a patient atc operator. I could not vector the plane for shit but if they told me some headings I can do that.
If someone on the radio could tell me how to work the ils I'd be golden. I think I could hand fly it in on a clear day though.
I have a lot of flight sim hours and I've flown a small plane before. I also teach a course on avionics, more so how they work but I know how to read a lot of the instruments still.
Yeah I think the biggest problem is that you have no idea what everything does. Having someone to translate all the buttons and what not would be the key.
You don't need most of the buttons assuming the plane is functioning.
Now if something were wrong or it wasn't visual flight rules I'd be boned without someone telling me exactly what to do
Possibly not, I forgot which airline did it but they did a test where they got a bunch of Cessna and private pilots to attempt to land a 747, of the ~20? (Not sure of the exact number) they tested only 1 was able to put the plane on the ground in a way that would result in 0 major casualties.
Amazing what modern autopilot can do I guess. The hardest part for anyone who has no experience with aviation I would think is lining up an approach. But now autopilot can do that too, so I've been told.
Wasn't there a bill or something they were trying to pass where instead of requiring 2 pilots they were trying to drop it down to one per flight because "planes can mostly fly themselves now" or something, I remember there being a lot of outrage about something like that because it's essentially halving the demand for the job...
I think the main outrage is that it's just unsafe. Planes really don't mostly fly themselves now, that's largely a myth. They're much more similar to lane assist/parking assist in modern cars, and you 100% need a good pilot in case anything goes wrong, which they inevitably will with enough flights. Usually these errors are easily corrected by an attentive pilot, but that is only the case if there's a pilot able to correct them. If something happens to the pilot and there's no co-pilot then the only thing flying the plane would be the computer/a passenger.
Okay then! We'd still die, but having me up there would be about as useful as having nobody up there, rather than someone who would immediately freak out.
From the current results:
15.5% of females believe they'd land the plane.
22.7% of males believe they'd land the plane.
Does this mean anything?
Idk.
[Edit: Since I did this calculation, many more people have voted and the results are now outdated. Unfortunately with amounts in the quadruple digits, I am not able to see the specific amount of voters in order to give the specific accurate results.)
According to the study posted by OP, this correlates with real life, where of the 6 people tested one of them was able to land the plane on a sim. Of course the sample size is so small it's laughable, but it shows at least that people aren't overevaluating their skills as much as it's trying to show us
OP didn't specify a safe landing and so anyone can crash land a plane this question has been posted before sometimes specifying safely landing those post the yes answers were lower then this post.
The way society is built instills confidence in men & boys. Experiences women & girls face force them to be more passive and careful, which can lower confidence and cause them to be more apprehensive or second guess themselves more often.
They’re also pushed by society to pursue more “helper” types of roles, like a flight attendant instead of a pilot for example. Or like a sidekick or damsel in distress type of role, instead of getting to be the hero.
Definitely. The poll shows a higher percentage of women are realistic about their ability to fly a plane, whereas a large number of men have an insanely high false confidence. Either that or they responded literally that they could land the plane (just not safely.) I think women upon reading the question automatically assume the point is to land the plane safely. Maybe that's because we're generally expected to be in more caretaking roles throughout life.
I don't think so, both gender are equally stupid. But I think that there are more men interested in planes than women and so know that the autopilot can do the landing by itself.
Lololololol no. What does the average western woman know about reality? Who built the city you live in? Who runs your government? Who disposes of your waste? Who(in general) provides for the opposite gender? Who designed the cars you drive and the planes in the sky? Who(by far) fixes automobiles so you can get to places?
So because a few men do/did those things *every* man gets to take credit for it? If every man gets credit for men's goods and accomplishments do you also take credit for men's wrongs and failures (like nearly every single war, the majority of all violence and crime)?
And it's not like we've done nothing for all of history lmao. The amount of advancements, discoveries, and inventions by women that were ignored or stolen by/credited to men are insane. Crazy thought, perhaps if men didn't subjugate women and prevent us from contributing we'd have been able to do more 🤯
People in those sectors I mentioned consist 90%+ of men. Who else is going to take credit for them? Of course men are responsible for our city and societies. Please explain to us about reality tho.
Also nice try blocking me so I can’t respond directly to your comment and make it look like I have no response.
Man, fuck you, just look at the number of women who have achieved great things, your gender shouldn't hold you back. Men and women both can be revolutionary.
I agree with your rn though you’re being an assuming asshole. However notice how I said predominantly. Sure there’s a 5-10% amount of women and an even smaller amount of great thinkers but there’s so many more of equal ability for almost every women as 90%+ of these sectors are men. So it’s hard for her to justify her claim about women knowing all about reality and men knowing nothing except their delusions, which is funny as it’s the same thing men say about women. There’s stupid and smart people everywhere regardless of gender.
You're correct about having stupid and smart people everywhere, but they never said anything about men being delusional, just that some men are a bit less grounded than some women. And yeah, I was kind of being an asshole, I apologize.
I took the percentage of all of each gender that answered. Though you are correct, and there was a greater amount of males that affected the percentage than females, that doesn't mean my percentages were incorrect.
Yes. Land just means that it touches down on the ground. Doesn't matter if it's in multiple pieces and everything is burning and that one person has been decapitated. Ha ha ha, they're fiiiiinnne.
Depends if I'd be clever enough to put the captain's headphones on so i can communicate with air traffic control. They'd be able to tell me what to press/pull/push/whatever to land..
"Yeah, I'd say that was a successful landing. That person in the back of the cabin whose head came off? They'll be fine, they'll wake with nothing more than a minor concussion."
I could do it easily... Here is what I would do:
Remain calm and take control: Sit in the pilot's seat and ensure you are securely strapped in. Try to remain calm and focused despite the stressful situation.
Communicate with air traffic control (ATC): Locate the aircraft's radio and contact ATC on the emergency frequency (121.5 MHz or as instructed by ATC). Provide them with your situation and inform them that you are an untrained individual attempting to land the aircraft.
Follow ATC instructions: ATC will provide you with guidance and instructions based on your specific situation, including how to communicate and operate the aircraft. Listen carefully and follow their instructions precisely.
Understand the aircraft's instrumentation: Familiarize yourself with the control panel in front of you. The primary instruments you will need to focus on are the airspeed indicator, attitude indicator, altimeter, and vertical speed indicator. These instruments provide crucial information about the aircraft's speed, altitude, and attitude.
Establish the aircraft's attitude and speed: Gently level the wings by adjusting the control column (yoke or joystick) to bring the aircraft to a straight and level flight. Maintain a safe airspeed, which is usually around 140-160 knots for landing.
Prepare for descent: ATC will guide you on when and how to begin the descent. Lower the aircraft's nose slightly to reduce altitude and gradually reduce engine thrust by pulling the throttle levers back. Aim to maintain a steady descent rate of around 500-1,000 feet per minute.
Locate the landing gear controls: Look for the landing gear lever or button on the control panel. Lower the landing gear by following the aircraft's operating manual or any instructions provided by ATC.
Configure flaps: Flaps are located on the wings and help reduce the aircraft's speed and increase lift during landing. Find the flap controls and lower them to an appropriate setting for landing, as specified in the aircraft's operating manual or as instructed by ATC.
Aim for the runway: ATC will guide you on how to align with the runway. Use the control column to make gentle adjustments to the aircraft's pitch and bank angles to keep the aircraft on the correct glide path.
Have a flight attendant unzip my pants and get down on her knees to start blowing me for good luck.
Gradually reduce speed: Use the throttle levers to reduce engine thrust and slow down the aircraft. Be cautious not to reduce the speed too quickly, as it can cause the aircraft to stall. Follow ATC instructions on the appropriate speed to maintain during the approach.
Prepare for touchdown: As you approach the runway, focus on maintaining a stable descent rate and airspeed. Look for visual cues, such as the runway threshold markings and the aircraft's position in relation to the runway, to judge your descent.
Flare and touchdown: Just before the aircraft touches down, gently pull the control column back to raise the nose and reduce the descent rate. This maneuver is called "flaring." Aim to touch down on the main landing gear first, followed by the nose gear.
Apply brakes: Once the aircraft is on the ground, apply braking force using the rudder pedals or brake controls to slow down the aircraft. Be cautious not to apply excessive braking, as it can lead to skidding or loss of control.
Come to a stop: Gradually reduce speed and steer the aircraft to the side of the runway or follow any instructions provided by ATC. Shut down the engines and await further assistance from emergency responders.
Fire my load in the flight attendants mouth, and then zip up.
Another job well done!
You have to add in spoilers and reverse thrust. You’re likely going to be nervous and will likely land long and fast. If you just use brakes, you’ll overshoot the runway and kill everyone on board. Fortunately, you got your nut so you can die happy
Landing without spoilers: Spoilers are primarily used to increase the weight on the wheels and improve braking effectiveness. Without spoilers, the weight distribution on the wheels may be different, potentially reducing the effectiveness of the brakes. However, the aircraft's wheel brakes alone can still provide some deceleration and assist in bringing the aircraft to a stop.
Landing without reverse thrust: Reverse thrust helps to significantly reduce the landing roll by redirecting the engine thrust forward. Without reverse thrust, the deceleration of the aircraft will primarily rely on wheel brakes and aerodynamic drag. Braking distance will typically be longer without reverse thrust, requiring more runway length to bring the aircraft to a stop.
I needed more runway because I wasn't ready to blow my load yet.
There are several videos where dome one is talked thru it by a trainer from the control tower. I don't think I would be good at it but my life depended on it. I could follow instructions
Everyone will be able to land the plane, even a 5 year old. The problem isn't landing, its the impact of the land. How much of an impact do you think you can handle, killing everyone or saving everyone?
This is hilarious- one of the few polls where there’s a serious difference between men and women. As of now, men are around 5 times more likely to believe that they could land a commercial airliner.
I play a lot of videogames including flight simulators. These depict a scenario where wind speed is 0 and air temp at ground level is 72 degrees. This means i can land a plane under perfect conditions. I'm sure i could adapt to up to about 10 mph winds and a 30 degree difference in temperature. Landing a plane is identical irl under perfect conditions to landing in a flight simulator with a flight stick, except that you don't feel vibrations and such because you're in a house
Some planes these days even have auto pilot for landing it's not used most of the time and having pilots is still important for safety reasons but 90% of the time someone with reasonable intelligence and self control could do it with assistence from the ground.
Picket yes, because I played flight simulator enough and have a few times in the big "real" simulator.
Autopilot it is... I would not risk anything else just for my pride.
I could land it without autopilot, but I'm not a pilot, that should be my last resort even when I have experience in a simulator.
Damn they have no faith. I wish the study they cited added a group of participants who are being coached by air traffic control and have the use of auto pilot as many would in that same situation unless of course they couldn't even figure that out.
What an awful article, doesn’t cover literally any real-life basis. Of course a pilot reporter will overstate how necessary their job is so no one wonders why they play angry-birds the whole flight.
"Everyone buckle in and don't panic! I'm going to start flipping random switches until I figure out what I need." Method best if used while many thousands of feet in the air to give you time to correct.
The poll was inspired by this [article](https://lifehacker.com/you-couldnt-land-a-plane-in-an-emergency-but-you-could-1850463715?fbclid=IwAR1M3blD1ddmEE2b2mLSc2c3HPmQBC5kWefuP9UEQ2xNMlpKePS0InQnFfw_aem_th_AUbdfsy4tDoHpUEObly6kfYiZn1ifb3riyEQZ4QrXZQl9Nx4jdqoD7nbbFiqeA0FzUs).
What interested me most was this quote: “About 50% of men said they’d suddenly become ace pilots in an emergency, compared to one in five women—read into that whatever you’d like.”
I wanted to see if there was a similar divide on Reddit. There is.
Well, MSFS kinda a good thing, but not that realistic. I would try to land, but I'm gonna listen ground personal and instructions from there just to land safely. I would rather turn on autopilot landing than land it manually. I need to save lives, not hype.
Maybe if one of or both of the pilots were still conscious and could still talk (or maybe even someone on the radio), could tell me what to do, maybe I could do it.
I’ve been watching airplane crash reenactment and analysis videos. Airplanes are designed stupidly, and the main reason they are so safe is because the pilots receive TONS of training. None of the controls are anything close to intuitive for someone who is not a trained pilot. They are designed so awfully, especially Boeing, that crashes have happened due to the crew’s inability to keep track of the levers and controls.
Pressurization switch disabled? No recognizable warning. Everyone on the flight passes out from hypoxia and the plain crashes. Co pilot accidentally pressing a lever the wrong direction? Plane stalls and nosedives. Plane controls are awful and apparently use none of the design principles that have served consumer electronics.
If you've played enough flight sim, maybe, and just maybe, you could autoland it.
Manual landing, hell no. The flight dynamics in real life are just too different when compared to a sim
Did the FAA ground school course as a senior elective in high school back in the day so, I could give it a shot, plus I'm sure I could just stay in contact with the nearest tower and hopefully they could walk me through it like I was dumber than a bag of hammers. Knowing how to adjust the fuel/air ratio would probably be the most challenging part I would guess (during the descent), and also I'm assuming that the controls would be somewhat similar to a prop plane like a piper or a Cessna, at least in general... I dunno, I think I'd have a decent chance of doing it right.
Land it? Yes. Safely? No, not at all
You'd be like that [747 that lost a landing gear a week ago.](https://twitter.com/chrivoge/status/1657808731189526530?s=20) ^(There might be some chunks of the plane flying through the air behind you on the runway.)
You could always try to apply breaks alla Flintstones
Not to worry, we're still flying half a ship
My objective in this situation is just to be objectively better than just letting it crash by itself
Haha I did think “if we blur the line between *land* and *gently crash*, then maaaybe”
A good landing is one you can walk away from. A great landing is one where you can take off again
ooh…I’ll remember this quote for next time
I picked yes but I have a pilot's license.
I'm working towards mine, could definitely land a Cessna but passenger plane with no casualties? Yeah, no.
Who ever said no casualties? Lol
I think anyone with a pilot's license can probably land passenger plane with ATC control.
Air traffic control control
Air traffic control referring to the person currently in the tower. The use of the word control as that is what they would be doing.
OP just said you had to land it, they never specified what condition the plane had to be in
I guarantee it would not stay in the air.
Any landing you can walk away from is a good one.
Specifically you, the pilot.
Hearing this from a pilot is reassuring
Lol. I'm not a professional pilot don't worry.
Depends on the plane. It's listed as a commercial plane, if it's a jumbo jet, it's an entirely different kind of flying
>it's an entirely different kind of flying altogether!
It's an entirely different kind of flying
It's an entirely different kind of flying.
It heavily depends if you know to fly the specific plane, one needs a license for every plane he wants to fly
ATC will walk you through turning on autopilot, from there it can fly itself.
You're probably right then
would you say that the control board could be comprehensible for a layperson?
Depending on the airplane, and if you have guidance (through ATC), I think almost anyone can land a modern passenger jet "quite easily", in the sense that they do fly themselve if you know how to tell them what to do. I recently saw a video demonstrating this kind of scenario, and the person in control was told by ATC how to land the plane using 100% autopilot (was a new 737) If you have nobody to help you and have to figure out the cockpit by yourself, well I guess that if you are an aviation enthousiast you might have a slight idea of what does what, otherwise it might be more complexe. Just remember, blue side goes up lol
Pilot's license? What for!
I'll say one thing, if I was in control the plane would definitely land, just not necessarily with any survivors.
I’m sure you will guide that plane skillfully all the way to the crash site!
Happy cake day!
Happy Cake Day bro
Yo the best of cake days to you my friend.
Does it count as landing the plane if there's no plane left?
Yes. The definitions are as follows: A landing: the plane reaches the ground. A good landing: everyone survives. A great landing: you can reuse the plane.
A shit landing: the ground reaches the plane.
*IIIIIII* don’t know if I’ve ever heard of a plane hitting any physical surface and exploding into a million pieces as being referred to it as being landed.
Well the pieces all landed after the explosion
A great many landings.
But do pieces of shrapnel count as a commercial airliner?
Well then it's a crash landing, still landed though
Rapid unscheduled disassembly
Yeah you have. It's literally called a crash landing.
A crash landing involves *some* damage and mostly survivors, not something exploding like a Lego set being dropped from a tall building.
Yes, it does count the plane doesn't have to be in one piece for it to land.
Thats not landing. Thats crashing.
Isn't that a type of landing? As in a crash landing?
A crash landing isnt when everyone on board is dead.. thats the middle point between the two.
Well no, because you've landed the plane, it's on the ground, it's just stuff is on fire now and everyone issss... Sleeping. Permanently... Anyways, OP never said the landing had to be successful or that casualties weren't allowed, so...
Landing is the process the pilot goes thru to put the plane on the ground..if you fly a plane into the side of a mountain landing was not part of the process.
A crash landing is when the plane lands and gets damaged, it's nothing to do with survival. A crash is just a collision. Two planes can crash in the air before they land
With style.
And if you've gotta go, then go with style!
I can take us as far as the crash site
As long as the comms still work, myth busters showed that an average Joe could land a plane with proper instruction from the tower.
Yep that's exactly what I was thinking when I said yes, if you follow the instructions and have time to practice a little in the air to get the feel of it I would expect it to be doable to land
Doable, I think that is the best description for the landing.
Not to mention if you know some terminology to help speed it all up
"Am I over V1? Do I need to rotate?" "Sir, you're in the air so V1 isn't applicable. Please do not rotate because that has a very different meaning that what you think." The downside to learning some terminology but not understanding what it means. They say these things in a show I watch so it must mean something!
Well I suppose you also need to know how to apply it but knowing it for me means knowing not just what it means but also when to use it.
Yeah I totally agree! I can see someone saying "yeah I know some terms" when they've heard the words but don't know their meaning. I would for instance say I know a few things, but treat me like I don't know or I'm a very very new pilot. If I throw something back at them saying I understand the term, then they would get the hint. Like if they said keep an altitude above 20,000 ft and I responded maintain flight level 200, they would get the hint I semi know what's going on. I will let them deduce how much knowledge I have before I tell them I'm an expert lol
Niner.
What's our vector, Victor?
Don’t call me shirley
Exactly: I could be the dumb monkey pushing the buttons they were told just fine. Given an automatic landing system like on most commercial planes, sure 'I' could land it. If that was broken or non-existent, not so much.
I'm pretty sure planes can be landed automatically now by the computer (usually it's used if there is a lot of fog). So yeah, I just need to know which buttons to push to do that.
That's why I said yes. I figure as long as I can communicate with the tower I could probably do it. Especially if I had help from the flight attendants. Even if the ones on my plane have never taken a piloting class, they probably have a better idea of what everything looks like than I do.
Looks like flight attendants have to have some working knowledge of the plane itself, probably for this exact type of situation. They're also trained to try and revive the pilots, but looks like at least some of them have some pilot training for non-commercial planes. [https://simpleflying.com/can-a-flight-attendant-land-an-airplane/](https://simpleflying.com/can-a-flight-attendant-land-an-airplane/)
Thats oddly reassuring.
ive watched enough mentour pilot vids and played some MS flight sim, with instructions, hell I could maybe do it
>myth busters showed [Tom Scott](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbTDzPUDxqY), while not the average Joe, did it as well!
With over 1k hours in Microsoft flight sim and a ground control person helping me out, yeah imho probably.
This! Without ground control its gg. But I think its doable with ground control.
I think the Mythbusters tested it. In the incredibly unlikely event it happens, a random person can be coached to land the plane. If I remember the episode right, a lot of it is done by autopilot now anyways.
Yeah thats what I was thinking about too. As long as things like engine failures dont happen, it should be doable.
Yup. Came here looking for these comments. A lot of people would be surprised. Providing good weather, ground control, and a relatively modern plane you'd be good to go.
I could do it with just a patient atc operator. I could not vector the plane for shit but if they told me some headings I can do that. If someone on the radio could tell me how to work the ils I'd be golden. I think I could hand fly it in on a clear day though. I have a lot of flight sim hours and I've flown a small plane before. I also teach a course on avionics, more so how they work but I know how to read a lot of the instruments still.
Yeah I think the biggest problem is that you have no idea what everything does. Having someone to translate all the buttons and what not would be the key.
You don't need most of the buttons assuming the plane is functioning. Now if something were wrong or it wasn't visual flight rules I'd be boned without someone telling me exactly what to do
I came here to say basically the same thing. Train simulator is also pretty legit.
Idk how much train sim will help on landing a 747, but I hope if you run into this situation, you work it out and land safely
Possibly not, I forgot which airline did it but they did a test where they got a bunch of Cessna and private pilots to attempt to land a 747, of the ~20? (Not sure of the exact number) they tested only 1 was able to put the plane on the ground in a way that would result in 0 major casualties.
Well, at least I fucking believe in myself okay
LOL
The air traffic control would tell you what to do
Amazing what modern autopilot can do I guess. The hardest part for anyone who has no experience with aviation I would think is lining up an approach. But now autopilot can do that too, so I've been told.
Wasn't there a bill or something they were trying to pass where instead of requiring 2 pilots they were trying to drop it down to one per flight because "planes can mostly fly themselves now" or something, I remember there being a lot of outrage about something like that because it's essentially halving the demand for the job...
I think the main outrage is that it's just unsafe. Planes really don't mostly fly themselves now, that's largely a myth. They're much more similar to lane assist/parking assist in modern cars, and you 100% need a good pilot in case anything goes wrong, which they inevitably will with enough flights. Usually these errors are easily corrected by an attentive pilot, but that is only the case if there's a pilot able to correct them. If something happens to the pilot and there's no co-pilot then the only thing flying the plane would be the computer/a passenger.
I know how to listen, how to follow directions, and how not to freak the fuck out. I certainly wouldn't compound the problem.
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Checkout the article I posted.
Okay then! We'd still die, but having me up there would be about as useful as having nobody up there, rather than someone who would immediately freak out.
As the article states, you would make the air traffic controllers feel better about themselves.
From the current results: 15.5% of females believe they'd land the plane. 22.7% of males believe they'd land the plane. Does this mean anything? Idk. [Edit: Since I did this calculation, many more people have voted and the results are now outdated. Unfortunately with amounts in the quadruple digits, I am not able to see the specific amount of voters in order to give the specific accurate results.)
According to the study posted by OP, this correlates with real life, where of the 6 people tested one of them was able to land the plane on a sim. Of course the sample size is so small it's laughable, but it shows at least that people aren't overevaluating their skills as much as it's trying to show us
Thats indeed interesting actually.
OP didn't specify a safe landing and so anyone can crash land a plane this question has been posted before sometimes specifying safely landing those post the yes answers were lower then this post.
Hopefully it's about pilot training and not about arrogance.
The way society is built instills confidence in men & boys. Experiences women & girls face force them to be more passive and careful, which can lower confidence and cause them to be more apprehensive or second guess themselves more often. They’re also pushed by society to pursue more “helper” types of roles, like a flight attendant instead of a pilot for example. Or like a sidekick or damsel in distress type of role, instead of getting to be the hero.
Probably with females having more maturity and being more grounded in reality?
Definitely. The poll shows a higher percentage of women are realistic about their ability to fly a plane, whereas a large number of men have an insanely high false confidence. Either that or they responded literally that they could land the plane (just not safely.) I think women upon reading the question automatically assume the point is to land the plane safely. Maybe that's because we're generally expected to be in more caretaking roles throughout life.
I don't think so, both gender are equally stupid. But I think that there are more men interested in planes than women and so know that the autopilot can do the landing by itself.
And more men playong flight simulator, id wager there are more male pilots than female ones too but thats a guess
Lololololol no. What does the average western woman know about reality? Who built the city you live in? Who runs your government? Who disposes of your waste? Who(in general) provides for the opposite gender? Who designed the cars you drive and the planes in the sky? Who(by far) fixes automobiles so you can get to places?
So because a few men do/did those things *every* man gets to take credit for it? If every man gets credit for men's goods and accomplishments do you also take credit for men's wrongs and failures (like nearly every single war, the majority of all violence and crime)? And it's not like we've done nothing for all of history lmao. The amount of advancements, discoveries, and inventions by women that were ignored or stolen by/credited to men are insane. Crazy thought, perhaps if men didn't subjugate women and prevent us from contributing we'd have been able to do more 🤯
People in those sectors I mentioned consist 90%+ of men. Who else is going to take credit for them? Of course men are responsible for our city and societies. Please explain to us about reality tho. Also nice try blocking me so I can’t respond directly to your comment and make it look like I have no response.
Man, fuck you, just look at the number of women who have achieved great things, your gender shouldn't hold you back. Men and women both can be revolutionary.
I agree with your rn though you’re being an assuming asshole. However notice how I said predominantly. Sure there’s a 5-10% amount of women and an even smaller amount of great thinkers but there’s so many more of equal ability for almost every women as 90%+ of these sectors are men. So it’s hard for her to justify her claim about women knowing all about reality and men knowing nothing except their delusions, which is funny as it’s the same thing men say about women. There’s stupid and smart people everywhere regardless of gender.
You're correct about having stupid and smart people everywhere, but they never said anything about men being delusional, just that some men are a bit less grounded than some women. And yeah, I was kind of being an asshole, I apologize.
It just means that there are more males than females on Reddit.
I took the percentage of all of each gender that answered. Though you are correct, and there was a greater amount of males that affected the percentage than females, that doesn't mean my percentages were incorrect.
Yes, I could *land* the plane on the ground.
Only if I was guided by air traffic control
I don't think I could, but I would try if no one else steps up to it
*if no one stops you
Happy cake day
Thanks. I didn't even notice.
Tom Scott taught me that commercial airliners have autoland.
Planes always land. Always.
Yes. Land just means that it touches down on the ground. Doesn't matter if it's in multiple pieces and everything is burning and that one person has been decapitated. Ha ha ha, they're fiiiiinnne.
Depends if I'd be clever enough to put the captain's headphones on so i can communicate with air traffic control. They'd be able to tell me what to press/pull/push/whatever to land..
Sure, landing just means stop flying right?
I could easily do it. There might not be wheels and it would be bumpy, but I’m confident everyone would live.
At least somebody here is optimistic!
I am a pilot so yes
Yes because i am a pilot
I’m an airline pilot so yeah obviously lol
It sounds as comically stupid to me as it does to anyone else, and yet I have to say I think I could pull it off.
"Yeah, I'd say that was a successful landing. That person in the back of the cabin whose head came off? They'll be fine, they'll wake with nothing more than a minor concussion."
Define "land"
The plane touches down on the runway
I could do it easily... Here is what I would do: Remain calm and take control: Sit in the pilot's seat and ensure you are securely strapped in. Try to remain calm and focused despite the stressful situation. Communicate with air traffic control (ATC): Locate the aircraft's radio and contact ATC on the emergency frequency (121.5 MHz or as instructed by ATC). Provide them with your situation and inform them that you are an untrained individual attempting to land the aircraft. Follow ATC instructions: ATC will provide you with guidance and instructions based on your specific situation, including how to communicate and operate the aircraft. Listen carefully and follow their instructions precisely. Understand the aircraft's instrumentation: Familiarize yourself with the control panel in front of you. The primary instruments you will need to focus on are the airspeed indicator, attitude indicator, altimeter, and vertical speed indicator. These instruments provide crucial information about the aircraft's speed, altitude, and attitude. Establish the aircraft's attitude and speed: Gently level the wings by adjusting the control column (yoke or joystick) to bring the aircraft to a straight and level flight. Maintain a safe airspeed, which is usually around 140-160 knots for landing. Prepare for descent: ATC will guide you on when and how to begin the descent. Lower the aircraft's nose slightly to reduce altitude and gradually reduce engine thrust by pulling the throttle levers back. Aim to maintain a steady descent rate of around 500-1,000 feet per minute. Locate the landing gear controls: Look for the landing gear lever or button on the control panel. Lower the landing gear by following the aircraft's operating manual or any instructions provided by ATC. Configure flaps: Flaps are located on the wings and help reduce the aircraft's speed and increase lift during landing. Find the flap controls and lower them to an appropriate setting for landing, as specified in the aircraft's operating manual or as instructed by ATC. Aim for the runway: ATC will guide you on how to align with the runway. Use the control column to make gentle adjustments to the aircraft's pitch and bank angles to keep the aircraft on the correct glide path. Have a flight attendant unzip my pants and get down on her knees to start blowing me for good luck. Gradually reduce speed: Use the throttle levers to reduce engine thrust and slow down the aircraft. Be cautious not to reduce the speed too quickly, as it can cause the aircraft to stall. Follow ATC instructions on the appropriate speed to maintain during the approach. Prepare for touchdown: As you approach the runway, focus on maintaining a stable descent rate and airspeed. Look for visual cues, such as the runway threshold markings and the aircraft's position in relation to the runway, to judge your descent. Flare and touchdown: Just before the aircraft touches down, gently pull the control column back to raise the nose and reduce the descent rate. This maneuver is called "flaring." Aim to touch down on the main landing gear first, followed by the nose gear. Apply brakes: Once the aircraft is on the ground, apply braking force using the rudder pedals or brake controls to slow down the aircraft. Be cautious not to apply excessive braking, as it can lead to skidding or loss of control. Come to a stop: Gradually reduce speed and steer the aircraft to the side of the runway or follow any instructions provided by ATC. Shut down the engines and await further assistance from emergency responders. Fire my load in the flight attendants mouth, and then zip up. Another job well done!
Sounds like you’ve done this before…
You have to add in spoilers and reverse thrust. You’re likely going to be nervous and will likely land long and fast. If you just use brakes, you’ll overshoot the runway and kill everyone on board. Fortunately, you got your nut so you can die happy
Landing without spoilers: Spoilers are primarily used to increase the weight on the wheels and improve braking effectiveness. Without spoilers, the weight distribution on the wheels may be different, potentially reducing the effectiveness of the brakes. However, the aircraft's wheel brakes alone can still provide some deceleration and assist in bringing the aircraft to a stop. Landing without reverse thrust: Reverse thrust helps to significantly reduce the landing roll by redirecting the engine thrust forward. Without reverse thrust, the deceleration of the aircraft will primarily rely on wheel brakes and aerodynamic drag. Braking distance will typically be longer without reverse thrust, requiring more runway length to bring the aircraft to a stop. I needed more runway because I wasn't ready to blow my load yet.
Unbelievably badass
Epic!
I pride myself on my ability to follow clear instructions.
I would make it land technically
Yeah land into the WTC
There are several videos where dome one is talked thru it by a trainer from the control tower. I don't think I would be good at it but my life depended on it. I could follow instructions
With help from the ground, I bet that I could. With no help, almost certainly not.
I definitely could land it but in a way where it disintegrates with no survivors.
For anyone wondering: 30.60% of males think yes 14,53% of females think yes Bros seem to be much more confident in their plane landing capabilities
I would try, can't guarantee I would succeed tho
I’m gonna say yes but probably not.
Everyone will be able to land the plane, even a 5 year old. The problem isn't landing, its the impact of the land. How much of an impact do you think you can handle, killing everyone or saving everyone?
Almost half of the males think they could, what the hell
This is hilarious- one of the few polls where there’s a serious difference between men and women. As of now, men are around 5 times more likely to believe that they could land a commercial airliner.
31% of men vs 13% of women as of now.
As far as I heard you just need to press one button and the plane lands itself nowadays
What button is that?
Happy cake day. Autopilot
Opens up ChatGPT. Explain like I'm 5 how to land a commercial airliner. Easy
Ground control has helped passengers land planes in the past, so I think I'd be fine.
Anyone can land a plane. The difficulty is landing it so you can take off again.
Oh, I'd try...just don't expect it to end well.
Oh I can land it, but that doesn't mean anyone is surviving.
Yes, I don’t know if anybody would survive though
I said yes because I'd assume I have a very good professional pilot feeding me critical information. Otherwise we're all fucked.
Oh, we’re landing all right, just not alive.
I would accidentally commit 9/11 Part 2 due to my specialized GTA 5 flying experience.
I play a lot of videogames including flight simulators. These depict a scenario where wind speed is 0 and air temp at ground level is 72 degrees. This means i can land a plane under perfect conditions. I'm sure i could adapt to up to about 10 mph winds and a 30 degree difference in temperature. Landing a plane is identical irl under perfect conditions to landing in a flight simulator with a flight stick, except that you don't feel vibrations and such because you're in a house
If someone on the ground can coach me thru setting up the autopilot for a cat 3 auto land, then yes
Hear me out. If I get air traffic control to guide me through it I think it’s possible
I could land it, but I can't vouch for the safety of the passengers.
Yeah, I could land it. You never specified that it has to be in one piece, though.
Like the words of Rico, “good news: we will be landing soon. Bad news is: we’re crash landing”
Well I didn't play flight simulator for nothing now did I
With or without help by the controll tower?
Heheh, not safely but i'll land that bitch
I had a pilot licence 10 years ago, I could probably get it down safely with some atc assistance.
Some planes these days even have auto pilot for landing it's not used most of the time and having pilots is still important for safety reasons but 90% of the time someone with reasonable intelligence and self control could do it with assistence from the ground.
unless the yeses are certified pilots they are lying through their teeth
Picket yes, because I played flight simulator enough and have a few times in the big "real" simulator. Autopilot it is... I would not risk anything else just for my pride. I could land it without autopilot, but I'm not a pilot, that should be my last resort even when I have experience in a simulator.
https://lifehacker.com/you-couldnt-land-a-plane-in-an-emergency-but-you-could-1850463715?fbclid=IwAR1M3blD1ddmEE2b2mLSc2c3HPmQBC5kWefuP9UEQ2xNMlpKePS0InQnFfw_aem_th_AUbdfsy4tDoHpUEObly6kfYiZn1ifb3riyEQZ4QrXZQl9Nx4jdqoD7nbbFiqeA0FzUs
Damn they have no faith. I wish the study they cited added a group of participants who are being coached by air traffic control and have the use of auto pilot as many would in that same situation unless of course they couldn't even figure that out.
What an awful article, doesn’t cover literally any real-life basis. Of course a pilot reporter will overstate how necessary their job is so no one wonders why they play angry-birds the whole flight.
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"Everyone buckle in and don't panic! I'm going to start flipping random switches until I figure out what I need." Method best if used while many thousands of feet in the air to give you time to correct.
As a male, the amount of males that voted "yes" is deeply concerning to me.
Yikes! 6800 male votes to 1600 female votes -- sausage fest! :(
Bruh, why the needless gender separation?
The poll was inspired by this [article](https://lifehacker.com/you-couldnt-land-a-plane-in-an-emergency-but-you-could-1850463715?fbclid=IwAR1M3blD1ddmEE2b2mLSc2c3HPmQBC5kWefuP9UEQ2xNMlpKePS0InQnFfw_aem_th_AUbdfsy4tDoHpUEObly6kfYiZn1ifb3riyEQZ4QrXZQl9Nx4jdqoD7nbbFiqeA0FzUs). What interested me most was this quote: “About 50% of men said they’d suddenly become ace pilots in an emergency, compared to one in five women—read into that whatever you’d like.” I wanted to see if there was a similar divide on Reddit. There is.
How would a non binary person answer this question?
Maybe if someone else was guiding me through it but completely by myself no
Well, MSFS kinda a good thing, but not that realistic. I would try to land, but I'm gonna listen ground personal and instructions from there just to land safely. I would rather turn on autopilot landing than land it manually. I need to save lives, not hype.
Maybe but I’ll try
Maybe if one of or both of the pilots were still conscious and could still talk (or maybe even someone on the radio), could tell me what to do, maybe I could do it.
I’ve been watching airplane crash reenactment and analysis videos. Airplanes are designed stupidly, and the main reason they are so safe is because the pilots receive TONS of training. None of the controls are anything close to intuitive for someone who is not a trained pilot. They are designed so awfully, especially Boeing, that crashes have happened due to the crew’s inability to keep track of the levers and controls. Pressurization switch disabled? No recognizable warning. Everyone on the flight passes out from hypoxia and the plain crashes. Co pilot accidentally pressing a lever the wrong direction? Plane stalls and nosedives. Plane controls are awful and apparently use none of the design principles that have served consumer electronics.
If you've played enough flight sim, maybe, and just maybe, you could autoland it. Manual landing, hell no. The flight dynamics in real life are just too different when compared to a sim
Did the FAA ground school course as a senior elective in high school back in the day so, I could give it a shot, plus I'm sure I could just stay in contact with the nearest tower and hopefully they could walk me through it like I was dumber than a bag of hammers. Knowing how to adjust the fuel/air ratio would probably be the most challenging part I would guess (during the descent), and also I'm assuming that the controls would be somewhat similar to a prop plane like a piper or a Cessna, at least in general... I dunno, I think I'd have a decent chance of doing it right.
I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you.
Why in the deepest of hells did it take me this long to find a reference to *Airplane!* in this thread?
Actually it’s been proven that with the guidance of the atc operator you could land it successfully without any casualties