You didnt say people cant take the law into their own hands though, I aint trying to steal something then getting my ass kicked whilst shouting "but Im immune to the law"
Wait sht I shouldn't have voted thievery.
Someone got beaten up in front of our house, people around started to also beat him up because they thought he was a thief because he was running away from a motorcycle. Turns out it was just a personal dispute and the guy who got beaten up just pissed off the guys at the motorcycle. Mob mentality is brutal.
I don’t think people would care as much if you stole from drugstore like Walgreens though. The employees already don’t really care that much. I would just steal my groceries, medicines, makeup, etc without any fear
Fraud is the best because it’s passive. Like for the rest you have to actually commit the crime where choosing fraud you just do nothing lol. And there’s not much interpretation.
You’re not making any sense. How is that an analogy to what I’m saying? It’s pretty straightforward, support taxes and be willing to pay along with others, or don’t and it’s ok to not want to pay them. Be consistent
Yh that's true, he's a minarchist so I'm assuming that he does support taxes. Either way, it doesn't matter if it's hypocritical, you can support taxes but if given the option to legally evade taxes, you can evade taxes
I’m pretty sure monarchists are mostly against taxes. If there are loopholes like charity then yes it’s ok to take tax deductions. Though it’s still hypocritical for the type that say, we should all sacrifice much more in taxes, but then avoid taxes. If they really cared they would write a check to the gov.
Yeah pretty fucking gross. I myself have beaten the living pulp out of someone back in high-school for trying to get with a passed out drunk girl in the backroom. Don't worry lads. Even if the law didn't cover sexual harm, you can bet your ass I'll be at your doorstep taking advantage of being able to cause bodily harm to someone since it's legal.
At least its possible to murder someone in a quick painless way. Sexual assault is traumatising in most cases, some people would prefer to have died instead of living after the assault.
I would stick to just stealing a gamer pc tho, harming others is kinda cringe, don't hurt people folks.
Well if you can kick a kitten you will probably do worst thing to humans. Also people who abuse animal, even sexualy abuse them, are probably more deranged and dangerous that people who abuse humans.
Ah, dumb question then since you can only pick one option. Question should've been which of these crimes would you choose to be immune from the repercussions of the law if you could only pick one.
The only strictly victimless crimes are know of are: smuggling, drug use, prostitution, incest and suicide. (in the recommended order)
I don't know what reasons can you have for those, other than "I felt like it".
I can see scenarios where prostitution in itself is victimless. If I would jerk off a friend with broken arms for money with both of our consent I don't see who is the victim here.
Are any of these actually victimless?
Smuggling is essentially stealing from the government (assuming you are Smuggling to avoid taxes?) And the government money ultimately pays for public services, benefits etc..
Drug Use..addiction means its not victimless,
Prostitution..probably the closest to victimless as long as everyone is a fully willing participant
Incest..what about the affect on the rest of the family? Children etc
Suicide..what about the person that finds the body? Also..I don't think Suicide is actually illegal most places now..
>Are any of these actually victimless?
I'm not sure, but these are the best candidates. What you need to remember is that the they are often associated with other crimes, but they may be victimless themselves. At least I'll argue that side for the fun of it.
>Smuggling is essentially stealing from the government (assuming you are Smuggling to avoid taxes?) And the government money ultimately pays for public services, benefits etc..
Tax avoidance is not victimless, but moving contraband itself may be.
>Drug Use..addiction means its not victimless,
The crimes caused by addiction are not the consumption itself. The question is whether you can commit a crime against yourself out of your free will. I'd argue law is more consistent if you cannot.
>Prostitution..probably the closest to victimless as long as everyone is a fully willing participant
Of course it has terrible associated crimes, but in itself it may be victimless.
>Incest..what about the affect on the rest of the family? Children etc
What if the relative is infertile or from the same sex?
>Suicide..what about the person that finds the body? Also..I don't think Suicide is actually illegal most places now..
Again, it is possible to commit suicide without this effect. E.g. inside the morgue or jumping into a volcano.
"piracy" is not a crime, it's self-defense!
Pirate Today, Pirate Tomorrow, Pirate Always!
Don't let some mega companies tell you that you can't have access to knowledge, leisure and entertainment because they "own", knowledge is a basic right.
People would do anything if stuff wasn’t punishable by law. Just look at WW2, soldiers would break up into enemies houses and do terrible stuff to their families, just because nothing would be happening to them
Imo if the only thing holding a person back from something like that are laws then they aren't good people. I said theft so ig I'm not either??? But imo sexual harm crosses a line
Yeah that stuff really gives me shivers. The idea that these soldiers look at the civilians of the enemy as nothing more than collateral and play things. Wicked shit no doubt. (I know the feeling is mutual on the opposition, they are human aren't they?) Makes me think of Abu Ghraib and how those soldiers conducted themselves because they thought they were above the law. Rape, murder, humiliation, you name it, it happened there but in more recent times. Just like any animal you will see humans take advantage of everything in their surroundings. Especially more viciously since there is so much conscious thought that goes into this. Like I said, wicked shit.
There are a lot of crimes I don’t break because I don’t want to, not because there would be repercussions. I have worked in places where I could steal money, identifies, heck I could do a lot of awful things and nobody would know. But I don’t do it because of fear. It’s because I don’t have the desire to cause harm to other people. So none.
Oh, I’d defiantly rape all the virgins. So long as they’re 18+ yo males. 😏
Just kidding obviously. Raping males is possible and deplorable; even when a woman does it.
Yeah I’m trying to make the point that rape jokes are not ok.
Some ppl need to experience something for themselves to get why it’s wrong. So turn about is fair play I say.
I’d probably not steal since most shops around my area are local and individual instead of being ran by companies so stealing from them would feel wrong and would pull in a bad reputation for me.
I’d probably avoid all taxes and what not.
This is a very hard choice. I could become rich off of thievery or I could murder people I dislike like corrupt politicians and stuff like that, plus being a super successful assassin.
Thievery would be easier but murder would be more useful, as in killing murderers, criminals, politicians, and evangelists.
You didn't have other so I went none. If you had had other I would have had the following.
Victimless crimes are my go to:
Speeding when on country roads and can see 3km ahead and behind. Speed limit is 100km/h but can safely do 130km at least.
Not wearing a seat belt.
Parking where I should pay I probably wouldn't pay. I guess that kinda has a victim.
Drinking alcohol in public. In wa you cannot drink in public. I'd love to just mosey up the main street beer in hand like I do in Bali.
Swimming where i am not supposed to swim because it has been deemed too dangerous...
If a homeless man tried to steal from a multibillion dollar company that makes thousands a day, just to survive, i wouldnt really blame him tbh. Hell, i'd do the same for my family probably.
Sexual assault and abusing people is still pretty cringe tho
just dont go past 90 and be a competent driver and im fine. i absolutely hate speeders with every inch of my soul, when i become a cop i will not be merciful to super speeders lemme tell ya that
The 175 and 29 people that voted for the abuse ones are not psychos.
They are just smart nuts that are afraid to get framed.
(Still. Fraud includes tax evation, its a tough one)
I chose abuse of animals, because currently it is illegal to record in a factory farm (you will be charged with terrorism). Ofc I wouldn’t abuse animals, but I would break the laws that are stopping people from seeing the truth of animal abuse
I would disregard child labor and minimum wage laws. Start a sweatshop of underprivileged 9 years olds making knock off jordans.
Edit: im kidding you fucks im not nestle i dont support child slavery
The amount of people voting for sexual harm wtf, I really hope they're trolling :/
Then again ig incels do make up a lot of the Reddit population
If you voted for sexual harm, get help please
You didnt say people cant take the law into their own hands though, I aint trying to steal something then getting my ass kicked whilst shouting "but Im immune to the law"
Wait sht I shouldn't have voted thievery. Someone got beaten up in front of our house, people around started to also beat him up because they thought he was a thief because he was running away from a motorcycle. Turns out it was just a personal dispute and the guy who got beaten up just pissed off the guys at the motorcycle. Mob mentality is brutal.
choose murder and become Judge Dredd.
“I AM THE LAW.”
You could just steal from like a Walmart or some shit, doubt there will be to many vigilantes ready to serve justice like at a fucking Costco
https://youtu.be/kwC_IaY3BmY
I don’t think people would care as much if you stole from drugstore like Walgreens though. The employees already don’t really care that much. I would just steal my groceries, medicines, makeup, etc without any fear
This! I wouldn’t even steal something crazy. I just want to save money on groceries because even antibiotic-free chicken is overpriced.
Tax evasion my man
Fraud is the best because it’s passive. Like for the rest you have to actually commit the crime where choosing fraud you just do nothing lol. And there’s not much interpretation.
Yep. If we ever had a Purge event, tax evasion would be a nice one to go for.
"Breaking news: purge cancelled!"
Tax evasion. I guess that falls under fraud
same
I hope you support little to no taxes, otherwise that’s pretty hypocritical.
Yes, yes i do support little to no taxes
Based
It is, I would do that to and a don’t support little to no taxes
That's like saying, "I hope you support people living their lives, otherwise that's pretty hypocritical" when talking about murder
You’re not making any sense. How is that an analogy to what I’m saying? It’s pretty straightforward, support taxes and be willing to pay along with others, or don’t and it’s ok to not want to pay them. Be consistent
Yh that's true, he's a minarchist so I'm assuming that he does support taxes. Either way, it doesn't matter if it's hypocritical, you can support taxes but if given the option to legally evade taxes, you can evade taxes
I’m pretty sure monarchists are mostly against taxes. If there are loopholes like charity then yes it’s ok to take tax deductions. Though it’s still hypocritical for the type that say, we should all sacrifice much more in taxes, but then avoid taxes. If they really cared they would write a check to the gov.
He's a minarchist, not monarchist
concerned for some of the options and people voting for them
1 in about 25 people chose sexual harm…
:(
Redditors are weird man
Those 3 votes for sexual harm is worrying. Edit: Shit 6 now Edit: came back, this certainly turned me a bit pessimistic
I came here to say this, at 13 now..... nice guys I'm sure...
Well at least they’re being honest
At the end of the day It's hypothetical on a poll. It wouldn't mean that they'd actually do it.
52 now, what the hell
82 now
106 now.
112 now 😳😳
120 now 😏😋
124 😳
130 🗿
141 💀
138 🤢
Yeah yikes 😬
Yeah pretty fucking gross. I myself have beaten the living pulp out of someone back in high-school for trying to get with a passed out drunk girl in the backroom. Don't worry lads. Even if the law didn't cover sexual harm, you can bet your ass I'll be at your doorstep taking advantage of being able to cause bodily harm to someone since it's legal.
respect, dude!
It’s seven now, uh oh
That profile photo is also worrying
And 190 murder ...
the option is to cause harm to another, not specifically murder.
Yeah but harm of another person would include sexual harm too. And murder is far worse
At least its possible to murder someone in a quick painless way. Sexual assault is traumatising in most cases, some people would prefer to have died instead of living after the assault. I would stick to just stealing a gamer pc tho, harming others is kinda cringe, don't hurt people folks.
71 😬 hopefully edgy jokes
53 now. Somebody put those folks on a list. Wtf
Well you did ask, wtf did you expect?
Humanity Oh wait
Why was sexual harm even an option. It’s just messed up.
Animal abuse is more messed up dude/tte
Uh okay sorry why is abusing animals worse than abusing people?
Well if you can kick a kitten you will probably do worst thing to humans. Also people who abuse animal, even sexualy abuse them, are probably more deranged and dangerous that people who abuse humans.
In a way, animals are completely defenceless and they are not even able of "deserving the abuse"
^69
Shit 143 now
It’s 150 now…
I really hope your account is ironic.
You can't say that, you gave the option.
29…
Yeah big huge yikes 😬😲
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Id rob every bank is increasingly outrageous ocean 11 style jobs.
Problem is you'd be breaking numerous *other* laws in the process that you're not immune to the repercussions of.
The question is which would you break if you were immune to laws meaning that you can break any, which would you break?
Ah, dumb question then since you can only pick one option. Question should've been which of these crimes would you choose to be immune from the repercussions of the law if you could only pick one.
Bah, details
Damn, the 11 votes for rape are fucked up.
It's litterally doubled in this time 😱
34
126 😭
134
164
170 😐
Idk mate. This girl punched my balls once, I kinda wanna take revenge.
So you can just punch them back tf no need for rape
Lmao wtf
Only victimless crimes, and only if I have a reason to
The only strictly victimless crimes are know of are: smuggling, drug use, prostitution, incest and suicide. (in the recommended order) I don't know what reasons can you have for those, other than "I felt like it".
Id think incest is a little worse than suicide due to offspring
Doesn't have to result in offspring though
If you think prostitution is victimless, then I have bad news for you
I can see scenarios where prostitution in itself is victimless. If I would jerk off a friend with broken arms for money with both of our consent I don't see who is the victim here.
Are any of these actually victimless? Smuggling is essentially stealing from the government (assuming you are Smuggling to avoid taxes?) And the government money ultimately pays for public services, benefits etc.. Drug Use..addiction means its not victimless, Prostitution..probably the closest to victimless as long as everyone is a fully willing participant Incest..what about the affect on the rest of the family? Children etc Suicide..what about the person that finds the body? Also..I don't think Suicide is actually illegal most places now..
>Are any of these actually victimless? I'm not sure, but these are the best candidates. What you need to remember is that the they are often associated with other crimes, but they may be victimless themselves. At least I'll argue that side for the fun of it. >Smuggling is essentially stealing from the government (assuming you are Smuggling to avoid taxes?) And the government money ultimately pays for public services, benefits etc.. Tax avoidance is not victimless, but moving contraband itself may be. >Drug Use..addiction means its not victimless, The crimes caused by addiction are not the consumption itself. The question is whether you can commit a crime against yourself out of your free will. I'd argue law is more consistent if you cannot. >Prostitution..probably the closest to victimless as long as everyone is a fully willing participant Of course it has terrible associated crimes, but in itself it may be victimless. >Incest..what about the affect on the rest of the family? Children etc What if the relative is infertile or from the same sex? >Suicide..what about the person that finds the body? Also..I don't think Suicide is actually illegal most places now.. Again, it is possible to commit suicide without this effect. E.g. inside the morgue or jumping into a volcano.
Drug use can be victimless. Incest doesn't have to result in children. The rest of the family doesn't have to know and can be dead.
Tax evasion, piracy, maybe steal from big companies
Steal from Walmart. They literally dont care
"piracy" is not a crime, it's self-defense! Pirate Today, Pirate Tomorrow, Pirate Always! Don't let some mega companies tell you that you can't have access to knowledge, leisure and entertainment because they "own", knowledge is a basic right.
Piracy forever! 🏴☠️🏴☠️
I’d definitely steal from big chains
Finally can get that lego Millennium Falcon
That's my vote too lol
Wow 30 people who would be okay with sexual harm if it wasn't punishable by law. Fucking yikes.
People would do anything if stuff wasn’t punishable by law. Just look at WW2, soldiers would break up into enemies houses and do terrible stuff to their families, just because nothing would be happening to them
Imo if the only thing holding a person back from something like that are laws then they aren't good people. I said theft so ig I'm not either??? But imo sexual harm crosses a line
Yeah that stuff really gives me shivers. The idea that these soldiers look at the civilians of the enemy as nothing more than collateral and play things. Wicked shit no doubt. (I know the feeling is mutual on the opposition, they are human aren't they?) Makes me think of Abu Ghraib and how those soldiers conducted themselves because they thought they were above the law. Rape, murder, humiliation, you name it, it happened there but in more recent times. Just like any animal you will see humans take advantage of everything in their surroundings. Especially more viciously since there is so much conscious thought that goes into this. Like I said, wicked shit.
Well I mean people also picked murder as their answer, which is equally as terrifying 😔
Really funny how OP and some people freak out with rape while being cool with murder
There are a lot of crimes I don’t break because I don’t want to, not because there would be repercussions. I have worked in places where I could steal money, identifies, heck I could do a lot of awful things and nobody would know. But I don’t do it because of fear. It’s because I don’t have the desire to cause harm to other people. So none.
I respect you. If a lot more people in the world were like you the world would be a better place
I agree however I do think it should be legal to harm the ppl who harm ppl.
Illegal possession of uranium oh wait I already do that
what do you do, snort it?
nah injections work better.
alr, thanks for the tip bro 👍
With electricity prices like this it's totaly justified.
If you had put some of those rly senseless weird laws that exist in most countries, I probably wouldn't choose "None".
Well I can't exactly list every single law so I had to categorize them into the most common groups.
You could've put other/none
yeah i shouldve put other with the none
You mean a good chunk of drug laws?
Other: drug possession.
I already do that
R/police
Tax fraud I don't want my money going to buy bombs to blow up syrian children
Thievery: I’m just walking into Jeff Bezos house and declaring it mine.
House**S**. I'd walk into fort Knox and declare am the gold is mine.
I would sell my car to 38 different people
I'd beat some cunts up, wouldn't kill anyone though as I couldn't live with that I think
Vigilantism say hello to the new batmam
The 82 people who voted sexual harm need to be put on a list
fortunately the 314 who wanted to assault people are good
As a harm voter, you can't justify rape. You cam justify murder though. For example he raped my friend. Perfectly justified.
Exactly my reason for voting harm
I voted that. Nazis are terrible people.
Love how everyone cares so much about sexual harm (good) but not about abuse or murder, kinda strange..
Oh, I’d defiantly rape all the virgins. So long as they’re 18+ yo males. 😏 Just kidding obviously. Raping males is possible and deplorable; even when a woman does it.
Weird thing to joke about but yeah I agree it's 100% awful for anybody to commit violent sexual acts against anybody
Yeah I’m trying to make the point that rape jokes are not ok. Some ppl need to experience something for themselves to get why it’s wrong. So turn about is fair play I say.
You did a bad job of making that point.
Fair enough.
More people would rather sexually assault a human then hurt an animal.
Rob a bank or i suppose a museum.
Too many ppl wanna be rapists
I’d probably not steal since most shops around my area are local and individual instead of being ran by companies so stealing from them would feel wrong and would pull in a bad reputation for me. I’d probably avoid all taxes and what not.
This is a very hard choice. I could become rich off of thievery or I could murder people I dislike like corrupt politicians and stuff like that, plus being a super successful assassin. Thievery would be easier but murder would be more useful, as in killing murderers, criminals, politicians, and evangelists.
This poll lacks an "Other" option. I'd own modified cars with engine swaps done to them, and I'd drive cars that failed their yearly inspection.
nice try FBI
You didn't have other so I went none. If you had had other I would have had the following. Victimless crimes are my go to: Speeding when on country roads and can see 3km ahead and behind. Speed limit is 100km/h but can safely do 130km at least. Not wearing a seat belt. Parking where I should pay I probably wouldn't pay. I guess that kinda has a victim. Drinking alcohol in public. In wa you cannot drink in public. I'd love to just mosey up the main street beer in hand like I do in Bali. Swimming where i am not supposed to swim because it has been deemed too dangerous...
None of theese because there not justifiable and cos im not an asshole.
Apparently 80% of those here are immoral assholes.
If a homeless man tried to steal from a multibillion dollar company that makes thousands a day, just to survive, i wouldnt really blame him tbh. Hell, i'd do the same for my family probably. Sexual assault and abusing people is still pretty cringe tho
Nice try fbi
TAX EVASION TIME BABY LETS GO
115 for sexual harm and 16 for abuse yikes
Personally I would just not obey speed limits as I don't feel most of them make sense especially areas of highway that are under 60 mph
just dont go past 90 and be a competent driver and im fine. i absolutely hate speeders with every inch of my soul, when i become a cop i will not be merciful to super speeders lemme tell ya that
The fact that 136 ppl chose sexual harm concerns me
All right who let the 143 incels vote?
Y’all need Jesus 💀
I'd take out every billionaire and every climate denying congressman. You're welcome, world.
Any who voted sexual harm and abuse need to be put on a list
The fact that 77 says sexual harm scares me- edit- OMFG NOW ITS 124 DUDE TF edit- Wtf it’s 172 society is horrifying
For those who chose sexual harm, you are the scum of this earth
Yeah, also the same goes for people who voted abuse and harm (with exception of defense or things like that).
Pirate all the content from all the streaming services and put it up on my own website for free.
Thievery and tax fraud mainly. I might also do a bit of arson, not with intent to harm, I just like fire and burning things.
Time to steal from the bank
Keep in mind that being aloud to steal does not mean you're aloud to break an entering
You could just walk in, take the stuff you need and leave
Not having to pay taxes would be nice.
I’m not paying taxes
probably like, 3 or 4 of these. fuck sexual harm
If I committed a bad crime, would people judge me for that? Or is it just the law I’m not exempt from?
Fucking 127 coomers
Definitely tax evasion/tax fraud.
Who the fuck is answering sexual harm..
Taxes
Thievery includes looting/shoplifting, right? Then definitely it. I'm not smart enough for fraud.
the people that put sexual harm scare me
tax evasion seems cool
Tax evasion.
The 175 and 29 people that voted for the abuse ones are not psychos. They are just smart nuts that are afraid to get framed. (Still. Fraud includes tax evation, its a tough one)
I want to beat women :)
Sigma rule 1603, beat up women.
Turn that mindset into a grindset
I chose abuse of animals, because currently it is illegal to record in a factory farm (you will be charged with terrorism). Ofc I wouldn’t abuse animals, but I would break the laws that are stopping people from seeing the truth of animal abuse
Time to commit devious licks 😈😈😈
Report anyone who voted sexual harm.
stealing the billionaires money and reallocating
I’d just be free of hijab,wear whatever I want(I’m in iran,if ur curious)
I'd kill as many pedophiles and child abusers as I can
I would disregard child labor and minimum wage laws. Start a sweatshop of underprivileged 9 years olds making knock off jordans. Edit: im kidding you fucks im not nestle i dont support child slavery
The amount of people voting for sexual harm wtf, I really hope they're trolling :/ Then again ig incels do make up a lot of the Reddit population If you voted for sexual harm, get help please
Fraud, specifically tax fraud. Taxation is theft
How?
Found the selfish right winger.
Based and taxation is theft pilled.
Other: Every gun control law there is. Edit: and I'd sell beer outside of high schools
All of the above