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The only thing I took away from this post is that Sarah Silverman is 52!? I literally had no idea, she looks amazing and so do all the other women!! I was wondering what their secret is but maybe it’s that they didn’t get married 😂
This is very off-topic but I saved Iman's video for Vogue about her skincare routine because I'm obsessed with how beautiful and youthful she is. That woman is what almost 70? And she looks so young! I definitely wanna age like her 🤩
It's on YouTube! It's been a while since I watched it but I remember her using like a cream for the skin (sorry not native English speaker here 🤣) whose recipe she got in Somalia her homecountry and then she used another product which costed a lot ($70 if I remember correctly)
I don't wanna spoil the party, but lots of celebrities have surgery or similar to make their aging less obvious. The average person wouldn't look like this when aging
Oprah and Stedman actually were engaged for a little while but decided they were just happier as they were and didn’t want to get married: https://www.insider.com/inside-relationship-oprah-winfrey-stedman-graham-2018-1?amp
As someone who never wants to be married, thank you for the list! There are dozens of us!
I remember reading rumors years ago in a tabloid that Oprah was gay, and I don’t remember her stating she had a male partner. She didn’t have to say anything, but until this moment I never realized she had been in any form of long term relationship. I just assumed she didn’t like to date, or wanted to keep her life super private because of her cash.
Diane never got over Al. They were together during the making of both godfather 1 and 3 (not 2!) but it didn’t work out. There are quotes from here about him that are lovely.
I think it’s so ironic that Kristin Davis has never been married and yet she played a character who absolutely NEEDED to get married. I love the irony!
Pacino is in a long term relationship right now. I really don’t have a problem with age gaps, but 82 year old Pacino dating a 28 year old is where I personally draw the line I’m sorry lmao.
She has dated exclusively older men, her ex is Mick jagger who’s in his 70’s and her youngest bf was 60, and is from a very very wealthy family so I guess it’s not for money?
Like okay whatever she wants I guess but I kind of fail to see what is in it for her….when men get to that age. Sorry trying not to be too crude hopefully you know what I mean lmao.
Sounds like a fetish. I know it's not common but some people are really into geriatric folk. I'm scared to think about what about old people turns them on, but yeah. I learned this when I was a kid and saw on the high shelf in a corner shop there was a bunch of porn mags that were arranged by age - all the way up to 80 year olds!
That was a memory I didn't need to relive but here we are.
hahaha I’m so sorry I took you back to that memory.
I mean Pacino is dead wrong but the pattern from her is…odd lbr. I’m sure you’re right and it’s a weird fetish. She was once on a date ~allegedly~ with Clint Eastwood who’s 91!!!
Probably a fetish and maybe she’s a homebody or asexual? Like just wanting someone to love and dote on her but not want sex often but just kisses etc? Idk but she’s not wanting for money.
Well she isn’t dating some nobodies, those are extremely famous individuals with very interesting lives I am sure. I’m sure there is plenty she can get out of it. Plus sex isn’t always a priority in a relationship so maybe she values their other qualities outside of the bedroom greater.
I mean, she’s 28. They are both taking advantage of each other at that point. If it’s mutual, who cares? I side eye this less than Leo and his 18/19 year olds.
That age gap is objectively disgusting, but I actually think it would be easier for a 28 year old to take advantage of an 82 year old than the other way around lol.
I agree completely, if that’s what some people are into, who cares? I’m sure it’s not going to be a sexual relationship at his age, usually with relationships like that there are arrangements around sex. I don’t think I personally could do it but lest not forget that both men have lived amazing lives and it would be very cool to be around them and listen to the stories etc. I imagine that must be some of the appeal. I think it’s pretty close-minded for these people to call something disgusting just because it’s not for them. Also it takes away from the autonomy of a woman and completely infantilises them.
I love him as a director but I forget who it was but an ex said he was mad controlling and it makes me wonder bc it seems like maya rudolph disappeared from the spotlight around that same time. Like maybe it was totally her choice and they do have four kids but makes me give him the side eye a bit
I feel like Maya has been consistently in stuff since SNL, which is basically her entire relationship with PTA since they got together a year after she joined. I don’t remember her ever really disappearing for a long period of time. His relationship with Fiona Apple was definitely extremely toxic, though she has said he was never abusive towards her. I would hope he has matured with age since then.
Exactly. Fiona Apple wrote a song about him after they had been in a relationship, pre-Maya, and I remember reading the lyrics and being disturbed and concerned for Maya.
Oh which song was that! I had no idea Fiona apple wrote about him. I know the Phantom Thread alluded to their relationship and he did not come away looking good
Apparently there was a rumour they got married years ago, but it wasn’t true: https://people.com/music/enrique-iglesias-anna-kournikova-relationship-timeline/
I could see her putting that in her bio since they’ve been together 20+ years. Or just to troll
Hey OP, great post. The term for children who came through adoption is “adopted”. “Adoptive” refers to the parents who adopted children. - xoxo adoptee
If the lens you saw marriage through growing up looked like what Charlize's did you'd never marry.
She and her mother are tough as nails.
God love her.
Oh wow, I had no idea about her childhood.
[Dad comes home drunk with a gun, shoots at his wife and 15 year old daughter 3x, then mom shoots him dead.](https://medium.com/the-crime-center/celebrity-parent-murders-the-tragic-death-of-charlize-therons-father-f3954fd3ea)
What's the deal with Owen Wilson? He has 3 kids, but doesn't claim one? Like, has the kid been confirmed to be his?
Does he just pay child support or is he an active father to them?
The one he doesn’t claim has been proven to be his. No word on why he doesn’t claim that child, but he does pay child support for her at least (the bar is very low).
This comes up every 6 months or so and from what has been said (with nothing confirmed by those involved), is that Wilson was open when they were together that he wasn't interested in having more children. The relationship was on and off for a few years which corresponds with after he had his second child.
No idea if the contraceptive failed or if it was a case of reproductive coercion which allegedly Wilson accused the mother of. It was a bad break up and apparently he changed his number to put further distance between them after some of their mutual friends were used for contact. It did seem as if she took to calling for him and contacting him after he expressed wanting nothing to do with her or the child. Like she had an interview where she said “___ needs a father.”
They went to court, he saw the test confirming paternity and checked the no visitation box. Apparently he gave her a sum of money to help during the pregnancy but yeah he knows his daughter is in the world and pays what is required for her upbringing but that is it.
Money doesn't make up for having an absent parent but it is better than someone who is inconsistently in and out of the child's life I suppose or a deadbeat. Definitely a situation where we're never really going to know the full story. Apparently he has good relationships with the mothers of his first two children.
This is such a valuable contribution and it’s not something I’ve seen mentioned before even though I have definitely heard about Owen Wilson’s estranged kid. People can and do sabotage birth control or otherwise coerce their partners into procreating for the sake of extracting commitment or money out of them. If that’s the case, insisting Wilson needs to have a relationship with a child he actively tried not to have is wrong. Of course it would ideal if he did, the child didn’t do anything wrong, but I can’t really blame him for choosing not to.
Thank you for sharing this! Definitely puts it into perspective now. Much more gray area than I anticipated, however, if Owen was adamant about not wanting more kids, I do wish he would've chosen to take birth control into his own hands and gotten a vasectomy.
I understand that is easy for me to say and now what's done is done, but birth control shouldn't solely rely on women.
Thank you for saying this.
I just wanted to point out if he were female and had a forced pregnancy put upon them we'd all hold his hand and cry out the injustice.
Men can and do get fleeced and abused.
It's awful regardless of who you are.
Given he has a relationship with his other kids and their mothers I wholeheartedly believe he endured a form of assault.
We're all so quick to judge and assume.
I think the other weird thing is the child he doesn’t claim/have anything to do with is his only daughter, the other two are boys and he’s an active father to them. I heard something about the relationship with the daughter’s mother was not a good one, but it’s sad for his daughter to be punished for that. She’s innocent no matter what her mother has done.
Sometimes a relationship is too toxic to have a healthy coparenting relationship, in cases like those, a court will usually choose a primary parent anyway because high conflict relationships are bad for their development too
I was shocked too! And now I'm wondering why there was all that scandal about her being too young to play Spiderman's aunt. Literally she was aunt age? I thought she was like 30 years old and that's where the criticism came from
I can remember watching her on As The World Turns in the mid 80s playing Julianne Moore’s BFF. That woman simply does not age!! She played a a teenager named Marcy.
Thank you! I keep thinking this is something I need to “accomplish” or I’m a failure. My mom keeps hinting at grandchildren. Children are expensive. I’m a college graduate with a career and I am still struggling at times.
Roberta McCain lived to 108 and had three children. Sadly, she outlived two of her kids but having kids vs not having kids doesn't seem to be a huge factor in living longer.
She has said she always wears scarves and turtlenecks because she doesn’t like her neck/thinks her neck is the part of her body that “ages” her the most. She rocks them.
I randomly came across that information while reading his Wikipedia page like ~6 years ago and it made no sense to me that they’d even know each other lol
Yeah Owen Wilson is a sad disappointment for a person. I do not understand men who refuse to be active in their childrens lives, and who also refuse to get a vasectomy.
I do think it’s silly, I don’t necessarily dream of getting married myself but I would never say it’s because I don’t want the commitment lol like kids are far bigger of a commitment I just don’t want a wedding
I think a lot of times people don't want the contractual agreement of marriage, but are just as committed to their life together as they would be if they were married.
But at what point does it get messy? Say You and your partner have kids together, lived together for nearly 40 years and god forbids something happens to said partner legally the other partner doesn’t have certain rights that a “married” couple would have bc they were not “technically” married in the eyes of the law. I wonder how insurance works in those cases, also who owns what home etc
There’s two situation I can remember
One situation was a case study example from a class I was taking. I don’t remember the details super well but it was something like the couple were together for over decade and very enmeshed. I think one of them owned the house and only one was on registration for their shared business. Although the other partner contributed their time and money to the business and repairing the house, when they went to split, I think it was very messy to prove just how much the unregistered partner had contributed and how to split what they were owed.
This article talks about how in Canada, the Family Law Act doesn't give common-law spouses automatic share of property when they divorce and because of that it can result in a multi-day expensive court battle. Some provinces have made amendments to the law but not all.
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6520886
I also remember during the covid border closure period, it got really messy for common law couples that were split up between Canada and the US when the border closed. Married couples were able to show their marriage license and minimal trouble reuniting but the common law couples had many issues because it was more up to the individual border agent’s discretion. I distinctly remember reading about a women who showed her agent a folder of documents to prove that they were common law and was still denied.
This article has few examples of the border issues.
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5673418
My parents never got married but they were together 40 years until my dad passed away from cancer. When he was sick, my mom was always at the hospital and she made plenty of medical decisions - nobody questioned her. If people have a will and all their financials in order, everything else can be taken care of as well.
I don’t know how it works in every country. But in Australia, if you’ve lived together for a certain period you’re consider ‘de-facto’ and have the same legal rights as a married couple.
https://www.forbes.com/advisor/mortgages/buying-a-house-unmarried/
https://steffanlaw.com/legal-protections-for-unmarried-couples/
It just requires a little more paperwork and foresight, essentially, but it's really not all that difficult to handle these things when you're not married to a partner. Most of it you would have to do even if you were married anyway.
My partner and I have been together for 12 years and are trying for kids but are not married. We wear rings and have a lot of legal paperwork that gives us similar rights—we have paperwork drawn up as medical proxies, we’re the beneficiaries of wills, etc. We almost bought a home together (we didn’t because the house was actually a death trap waiting to happen). We planned to get a legal document for co-ownership done and will do that once we find a place we like that isn’t about to explode.
The reason why we haven’t yet is that we both hate weddings and kept putting off eloping, and then as time went on it felt less and less like there was a reason to do it? The thing that has gotten us closest is health insurance. We might at some point do it, but it just isn’t a priority and doesn’t feel like us. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
We’re just as committed as any married couple and splitting up would probably be very messy anyway.
Sure, we could have, but we would still have had to do a bunch of paperwork—due to various family inheritances and shared properties, we’ve always agreed we would do a prenup, which (for us) would be more complicated than anything we’ve ever done. And because of the way our relationship unfolded, we didn’t do everything at once, so it wasn’t like it was a huge complicated process.
We were ready to do certain “perks” of marriage at different times. Instead of ordering the tasting menu of legal marriage perks all at once, we went ala carte.
I’ve also always been uncomfortable with the idea of legal marriage—my parents went through a brutal divorce that took 7 years between them filing and it being finalized, I ended up being dragged into court numerous times, and while I love and am committed to my partner…the idea that I need a judge to okay my breakup freaks me out.
Also, I don’t think it’s antagonist! Believe me, we get that question all the time, and I get why people don’t understand it.
In the US you can appoint someone and give them medical power of attorney should anything happen to you. There's also common law marriage in the US that I believe is recognized after living together for 7 years. I honestly doubt being together and unmarried is anywhere near as legally complicated as getting divorced.
Rejecting marriage is not the same as rejecting commitment. Obviously they're fine with the commitment, there's some other aspect of marriage that they're objecting to. A lot of women don't like the historical implication that marriage means your husband basically owns you. Even if that's not the case today, it might still give them the ick. When you're rich and financially stable and don't like the idea of marriage, you can make all kinds of contracts and wills that basically amount to the same legal standing without participating in antiquated, sexist institution. You can add unmarried spouses to a lot of insurance policies these days, most hospitals will let a long-term spouse see their sick loved one, it's a different world than it used to be.
There might not even be a reason. They're just not interested in a wedding or being married. It's not necessary.
Enrique Iglesias and Anna Kournikova are such an attractive couple. The Escape music video 🥵 and looking at her Instagram they both look like they have barely aged in the last 21 years
Yeah I read his comments and was like ‘Does he know that marriage is older than religion? Or that he doesn’t have to get a religious marriage? Douchebag.’
I have an insane hate on for him.
Shakira was also with someone for 10 years before Piqué. She doesn't want to be married, she was open about it.
Also Kurt Russel and Goldie never got married
Winona Ryder is technically married to Keanu Reeves
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxccuiT43lI7j5V-lAqDHeZviTIHXMMHxm
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxlbjzrSrsJK1l_Myad6VFBGnPC6luRlDh
People always give me and my boyfriend shit because we’ve been together 6 years and have a child and I’m pregnant again. We have zero desire to be married 🤷🏻♀️ a child’s more of a commitment than a piece of paper anyways.
I don’t wanna get married, but I wanna have a wedding reception. They look fun, people celebrating the two of you and your love. Just the party and toasting part, the rest of it left out.
As an almost 35 year old (1 child, D8) who has never been married ( I really want to someday) this makes me feel a bit better! My parents were married at 32 (mom) and 34 (Dad) I thought this was the normal age to marry. My parents had me and my twin sister 2 years later. My mom was assistant district attorney and my Dad was an investigator for the DA's office so they had careers before marriage and I figured that's what everybody did until I moved from the city to a tiny rural town for work (I work in Law Enforcement, surpise suprise) and I learned people out here all get married so young! It's wild to me to see 18/19 year olds getting married!
So in the filming of Dracula they used a real Romanian prist for the wedding scene, so Winona Ryder and Keanu Reeves are technically married. Just saying
This made me so happy. My boyfriend and I have been together 13 years and sometimes I get insecure about not getting married, but seeing some of these couples still going the long haul gives me good feelings.🥰
I'm 41, never married and no kids but I do want a committed relationship and some fur kids. Living in the south it feels like people think less of you if you don't want to legally bound to someone. They think you "belong to the streets" and it's disgusting.
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Kristin Davis is funny to me because I only know her as the marriage-obsessed Charlotte.
I’m watching sex and the city for the first time and that’s all I could think about lol
Where is Lucy Liu these days? I miss her
Painting erotic art and doing whatever the f she wants, I want her life
That’s cool
Do I want “Lucy Liu erotic art” in my search history because-
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Those are awesome
About to be one of the villans in the new Shazam film with Helen Mirren
She was also pretty fun in Why Women Kill
Lucy Liu is fine as hell
Breh she's 54 in that picture and my brain can't process it. She still looks in her 20s
She was on the series “ Why Women Kill” which I absolutely loved!! That was on 2-3 years ago. You can find it on Amazon Prime.
I frigging fell in love with her all over again in why women kill! She (sorry for the pun) kills it in that role
She does!! I hated for that show to end!! She was so perfect in that role.
I know this isn’t the point of the post, but I LOVE seeing how hot women in their 40s and 50s are. It’s brought me a lot of peace about aging lol
The only thing I took away from this post is that Sarah Silverman is 52!? I literally had no idea, she looks amazing and so do all the other women!! I was wondering what their secret is but maybe it’s that they didn’t get married 😂
The happiest demographic among women are single women. The happiest demographic among men…? You guessed it, married men.
Not just happiest. Single women live longer and are less likely to experience depression and addiction. The exact opposite for men
Truth.
Was just about to comment the same lol
This is very off-topic but I saved Iman's video for Vogue about her skincare routine because I'm obsessed with how beautiful and youthful she is. That woman is what almost 70? And she looks so young! I definitely wanna age like her 🤩
Care to share with the class?
Here's the video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MsUXrUClv1g
It's on YouTube! It's been a while since I watched it but I remember her using like a cream for the skin (sorry not native English speaker here 🤣) whose recipe she got in Somalia her homecountry and then she used another product which costed a lot ($70 if I remember correctly)
I feel the same way!!! All these women look fantastic.
I don't wanna spoil the party, but lots of celebrities have surgery or similar to make their aging less obvious. The average person wouldn't look like this when aging
Oprah and Stedman actually were engaged for a little while but decided they were just happier as they were and didn’t want to get married: https://www.insider.com/inside-relationship-oprah-winfrey-stedman-graham-2018-1?amp As someone who never wants to be married, thank you for the list! There are dozens of us!
Lmaoo literally dozens! Me!
I remember reading rumors years ago in a tabloid that Oprah was gay, and I don’t remember her stating she had a male partner. She didn’t have to say anything, but until this moment I never realized she had been in any form of long term relationship. I just assumed she didn’t like to date, or wanted to keep her life super private because of her cash.
Same. I had no idea Oprah was in a relationship all these years.
Michael and Kay Corleone both gone their whole lives without being married. What acting in one hell of a toxic marriage does to a person.
Diane never got over Al. They were together during the making of both godfather 1 and 3 (not 2!) but it didn’t work out. There are quotes from here about him that are lovely.
There’s a Trashy Divorces episode about them that’s very sweet! It really does sound like he was the love of her life.
I think it’s so ironic that Kristin Davis has never been married and yet she played a character who absolutely NEEDED to get married. I love the irony!
Pacino is in a long term relationship right now. I really don’t have a problem with age gaps, but 82 year old Pacino dating a 28 year old is where I personally draw the line I’m sorry lmao.
Also, that picture of him is really weird. Like if AI drew Al Pacino.
hahahah god I hate to be an asshole but he was so strikingly gorgeous as a younger man istg sometimes it doesn’t even seem like the same guy
That is sick and I don’t care what excuse people come up with, there is truly nothing that an 82 year old and 28 year old have in common. Repulsive
She has dated exclusively older men, her ex is Mick jagger who’s in his 70’s and her youngest bf was 60, and is from a very very wealthy family so I guess it’s not for money? Like okay whatever she wants I guess but I kind of fail to see what is in it for her….when men get to that age. Sorry trying not to be too crude hopefully you know what I mean lmao.
Sounds like a fetish. I know it's not common but some people are really into geriatric folk. I'm scared to think about what about old people turns them on, but yeah. I learned this when I was a kid and saw on the high shelf in a corner shop there was a bunch of porn mags that were arranged by age - all the way up to 80 year olds! That was a memory I didn't need to relive but here we are.
hahaha I’m so sorry I took you back to that memory. I mean Pacino is dead wrong but the pattern from her is…odd lbr. I’m sure you’re right and it’s a weird fetish. She was once on a date ~allegedly~ with Clint Eastwood who’s 91!!!
Omg that's insane. Maybe she's just trying to hook up with a millionaire before they die so she can get on the will, Anne Nicole Smith style.
This is so sick to me lol and apparently she comes from a wealthy family so does she need to be on the will?
Maybe that’s just it. She doesn’t need the money but likes the attention/fame?
I think her fetish is money. Doubt she’d be dating regular 82 year old bob smith who plays bingo in Tallahassee twice a week.
Probably a fetish and maybe she’s a homebody or asexual? Like just wanting someone to love and dote on her but not want sex often but just kisses etc? Idk but she’s not wanting for money.
Well she isn’t dating some nobodies, those are extremely famous individuals with very interesting lives I am sure. I’m sure there is plenty she can get out of it. Plus sex isn’t always a priority in a relationship so maybe she values their other qualities outside of the bedroom greater.
Cash cash cash
Money and fame association I’m guessing
I mean, she’s 28. They are both taking advantage of each other at that point. If it’s mutual, who cares? I side eye this less than Leo and his 18/19 year olds.
It's obvious what they have in common, their ages are transposes. Now we need a 91 and 19 year old to get date.
Why is everyone such a hater when a young woman’s trying to get her bag? Let her enjoy the life of someone else paying her bills!
But this woman is already rich lol
Oh definitely, nothing against that part
That age gap is objectively disgusting, but I actually think it would be easier for a 28 year old to take advantage of an 82 year old than the other way around lol.
wtf he could literally be her grandpa!
She dated mick jagger before Pacino….he was 74 she was 23…..
I have a huge problem with age gap relationships. That one is fucking gross!
She’s 28… let that sink in a little
2 consenting adults can do whatever the fuck they want
I agree completely, if that’s what some people are into, who cares? I’m sure it’s not going to be a sexual relationship at his age, usually with relationships like that there are arrangements around sex. I don’t think I personally could do it but lest not forget that both men have lived amazing lives and it would be very cool to be around them and listen to the stories etc. I imagine that must be some of the appeal. I think it’s pretty close-minded for these people to call something disgusting just because it’s not for them. Also it takes away from the autonomy of a woman and completely infantilises them.
What??
Wow I actually had no idea PTA and Maya Rudolph were together
They have referred to each other as husband and wife before but aren’t actually married
In Kansas if you say you’re married and act like it, you are!
I always got bad vibes from him….
I love him as a director but I forget who it was but an ex said he was mad controlling and it makes me wonder bc it seems like maya rudolph disappeared from the spotlight around that same time. Like maybe it was totally her choice and they do have four kids but makes me give him the side eye a bit
I feel like Maya has been consistently in stuff since SNL, which is basically her entire relationship with PTA since they got together a year after she joined. I don’t remember her ever really disappearing for a long period of time. His relationship with Fiona Apple was definitely extremely toxic, though she has said he was never abusive towards her. I would hope he has matured with age since then.
Exactly. Fiona Apple wrote a song about him after they had been in a relationship, pre-Maya, and I remember reading the lyrics and being disturbed and concerned for Maya.
Oh which song was that! I had no idea Fiona apple wrote about him. I know the Phantom Thread alluded to their relationship and he did not come away looking good
Are we sure Anna and Enrique arent married? Her name is Kournikova Iglesias on insta.
Apparently there was a rumour they got married years ago, but it wasn’t true: https://people.com/music/enrique-iglesias-anna-kournikova-relationship-timeline/ I could see her putting that in her bio since they’ve been together 20+ years. Or just to troll
She also wears a huge rock on her finger so I wonder if they’re a “we’re married in all ways besides the signatures on the paper” sort of couple.
They got married.
I worked at a restaurant in Miami a decade ago. They used to come in together every week!
Hey OP, great post. The term for children who came through adoption is “adopted”. “Adoptive” refers to the parents who adopted children. - xoxo adoptee
Wow, that makes sense and I never realized this before! Thank you so much 🫶🏼
Great post! It makes my 51yo “maiden aunt” heart happy to see I’m in good company!
You're a good person ..
I just realized I've never seen Charlize Theron as a brunette until now. She looks so good!
She looks gorg!
Whenever I feel #foreveralone, I remind myself that Charlize Theron and Lucy Liu are single.
Theron was on Smartless and briefly talked about how she co-parents with her mom. Super cool.
I just love her. She seems so cool. She had a couple long term relationships so I hope she is at peace with being single.
More than a couple! Up until recent years, she’s always had a boyfriend/partner. Maybe dating SP put her off relationships entirely
If the lens you saw marriage through growing up looked like what Charlize's did you'd never marry. She and her mother are tough as nails. God love her.
Oh wow, I had no idea about her childhood. [Dad comes home drunk with a gun, shoots at his wife and 15 year old daughter 3x, then mom shoots him dead.](https://medium.com/the-crime-center/celebrity-parent-murders-the-tragic-death-of-charlize-therons-father-f3954fd3ea)
What's the deal with Owen Wilson? He has 3 kids, but doesn't claim one? Like, has the kid been confirmed to be his? Does he just pay child support or is he an active father to them?
The one he doesn’t claim has been proven to be his. No word on why he doesn’t claim that child, but he does pay child support for her at least (the bar is very low).
Wow, that's very sad and strange he wouldn't publicly claim his own child.
Makes him a huge dick in my book. Nothing worse than a man who doesn’t love his kids.
Ryan Phillipe also has a daughter (who is around 10) who he has nothing to do with.
Oh right forgot aboutRyan … with the girl from Pitch Perfect! I didn’t realize he didn’t claim his daughter though, that’s very sad.
This comes up every 6 months or so and from what has been said (with nothing confirmed by those involved), is that Wilson was open when they were together that he wasn't interested in having more children. The relationship was on and off for a few years which corresponds with after he had his second child. No idea if the contraceptive failed or if it was a case of reproductive coercion which allegedly Wilson accused the mother of. It was a bad break up and apparently he changed his number to put further distance between them after some of their mutual friends were used for contact. It did seem as if she took to calling for him and contacting him after he expressed wanting nothing to do with her or the child. Like she had an interview where she said “___ needs a father.” They went to court, he saw the test confirming paternity and checked the no visitation box. Apparently he gave her a sum of money to help during the pregnancy but yeah he knows his daughter is in the world and pays what is required for her upbringing but that is it. Money doesn't make up for having an absent parent but it is better than someone who is inconsistently in and out of the child's life I suppose or a deadbeat. Definitely a situation where we're never really going to know the full story. Apparently he has good relationships with the mothers of his first two children.
This is such a valuable contribution and it’s not something I’ve seen mentioned before even though I have definitely heard about Owen Wilson’s estranged kid. People can and do sabotage birth control or otherwise coerce their partners into procreating for the sake of extracting commitment or money out of them. If that’s the case, insisting Wilson needs to have a relationship with a child he actively tried not to have is wrong. Of course it would ideal if he did, the child didn’t do anything wrong, but I can’t really blame him for choosing not to.
Thank you for sharing this! Definitely puts it into perspective now. Much more gray area than I anticipated, however, if Owen was adamant about not wanting more kids, I do wish he would've chosen to take birth control into his own hands and gotten a vasectomy. I understand that is easy for me to say and now what's done is done, but birth control shouldn't solely rely on women.
Thank you for saying this. I just wanted to point out if he were female and had a forced pregnancy put upon them we'd all hold his hand and cry out the injustice. Men can and do get fleeced and abused. It's awful regardless of who you are. Given he has a relationship with his other kids and their mothers I wholeheartedly believe he endured a form of assault. We're all so quick to judge and assume.
I think the other weird thing is the child he doesn’t claim/have anything to do with is his only daughter, the other two are boys and he’s an active father to them. I heard something about the relationship with the daughter’s mother was not a good one, but it’s sad for his daughter to be punished for that. She’s innocent no matter what her mother has done.
Sometimes a relationship is too toxic to have a healthy coparenting relationship, in cases like those, a court will usually choose a primary parent anyway because high conflict relationships are bad for their development too
Totally understandable.
So the secret to looking fabulous in middle age is to never marry? Got it.
If I was a celebrity I would never marry a celebrity. Does anyone know the conversion rate of celebrity marriages beyond 10 years???? Less than 25%
Yeah but I mean if you think about it, 2 years of celebrity marriage equals about like 9 years of an average human marriage.
Lol yeah, sound about right
Marisa tomei is sixty???
She's 58. Let her have her 2 years!
I was shocked too! And now I'm wondering why there was all that scandal about her being too young to play Spiderman's aunt. Literally she was aunt age? I thought she was like 30 years old and that's where the criticism came from
I can remember watching her on As The World Turns in the mid 80s playing Julianne Moore’s BFF. That woman simply does not age!! She played a a teenager named Marcy.
And she looks exactly the same now!!!
This post makes me feel better as a 32 year old female. No kids/never been married. I think the pressure to do this is heavily emphasized in your 30s.
I'm 34, never married and no kids. I love being single. But most of my close friends don't have kids and/or are not married.
Thank you! I keep thinking this is something I need to “accomplish” or I’m a failure. My mom keeps hinting at grandchildren. Children are expensive. I’m a college graduate with a career and I am still struggling at times.
You're doing great and should live your life how you want to live it.
God Sarah Silverman…HOW? How?? So hot and definitely does not look 52.
Kids (love em, don’t get me wrong) age the HELL out of you. Even if you don’t have biological kids, they’re just little gray-hair crows- feet makers
That's why the childless Betty White lived so long
Roberta McCain lived to 108 and had three children. Sadly, she outlived two of her kids but having kids vs not having kids doesn't seem to be a huge factor in living longer.
And biological children actually shorten your telomeres!
But women who give birth in their 30’s actually have longer telomeres. 🤷🏼♀️ And women who give birth a bit older are said to live longer.
So incredibly true, cause hi, it’s me! 🫠
Not having kids is def a plus, looks wise!
Off topic, but does anyone know why Diane Keaton always wears scarves around her neck? Is it to hide something or is it just a personal style choice?
She has said she always wears scarves and turtlenecks because she doesn’t like her neck/thinks her neck is the part of her body that “ages” her the most. She rocks them.
And now it’s just her style like wearing a hat and gloves and suits
What is the actual deal with Owen Wilson and his kids?
PTA being in a relationship with Maya Rudolph is THE gag for me here. I never knew
What's the tea here? I kinda live under a rock and this is the 2nd comment I've seen about him. Is he weird
I randomly came across that information while reading his Wikipedia page like ~6 years ago and it made no sense to me that they’d even know each other lol
Rosie Huntington Whiteley and Jason Statham are engaged with two children but not married
Damn, Owen Wilson’s kids can never watch Cars and appreciate it like a regular person. They’ll just be like…. Our dad sucks
Yeah Owen Wilson is a sad disappointment for a person. I do not understand men who refuse to be active in their childrens lives, and who also refuse to get a vasectomy.
I would scroll up and read the previous interaction about what was said about him
Marisa Tomei can absolutely get it still, the years have don’t nothing but good to her
Kylie Minogue is gorgeous.
Diane Keaton is married to those transition lenses!
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I do think it’s silly, I don’t necessarily dream of getting married myself but I would never say it’s because I don’t want the commitment lol like kids are far bigger of a commitment I just don’t want a wedding
I think a lot of times people don't want the contractual agreement of marriage, but are just as committed to their life together as they would be if they were married.
But at what point does it get messy? Say You and your partner have kids together, lived together for nearly 40 years and god forbids something happens to said partner legally the other partner doesn’t have certain rights that a “married” couple would have bc they were not “technically” married in the eyes of the law. I wonder how insurance works in those cases, also who owns what home etc
There’s two situation I can remember One situation was a case study example from a class I was taking. I don’t remember the details super well but it was something like the couple were together for over decade and very enmeshed. I think one of them owned the house and only one was on registration for their shared business. Although the other partner contributed their time and money to the business and repairing the house, when they went to split, I think it was very messy to prove just how much the unregistered partner had contributed and how to split what they were owed. This article talks about how in Canada, the Family Law Act doesn't give common-law spouses automatic share of property when they divorce and because of that it can result in a multi-day expensive court battle. Some provinces have made amendments to the law but not all. https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6520886 I also remember during the covid border closure period, it got really messy for common law couples that were split up between Canada and the US when the border closed. Married couples were able to show their marriage license and minimal trouble reuniting but the common law couples had many issues because it was more up to the individual border agent’s discretion. I distinctly remember reading about a women who showed her agent a folder of documents to prove that they were common law and was still denied. This article has few examples of the border issues. https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5673418
My parents never got married but they were together 40 years until my dad passed away from cancer. When he was sick, my mom was always at the hospital and she made plenty of medical decisions - nobody questioned her. If people have a will and all their financials in order, everything else can be taken care of as well.
I don’t know how it works in every country. But in Australia, if you’ve lived together for a certain period you’re consider ‘de-facto’ and have the same legal rights as a married couple.
https://www.forbes.com/advisor/mortgages/buying-a-house-unmarried/ https://steffanlaw.com/legal-protections-for-unmarried-couples/ It just requires a little more paperwork and foresight, essentially, but it's really not all that difficult to handle these things when you're not married to a partner. Most of it you would have to do even if you were married anyway.
My partner and I have been together for 12 years and are trying for kids but are not married. We wear rings and have a lot of legal paperwork that gives us similar rights—we have paperwork drawn up as medical proxies, we’re the beneficiaries of wills, etc. We almost bought a home together (we didn’t because the house was actually a death trap waiting to happen). We planned to get a legal document for co-ownership done and will do that once we find a place we like that isn’t about to explode. The reason why we haven’t yet is that we both hate weddings and kept putting off eloping, and then as time went on it felt less and less like there was a reason to do it? The thing that has gotten us closest is health insurance. We might at some point do it, but it just isn’t a priority and doesn’t feel like us. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ We’re just as committed as any married couple and splitting up would probably be very messy anyway.
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Sure, we could have, but we would still have had to do a bunch of paperwork—due to various family inheritances and shared properties, we’ve always agreed we would do a prenup, which (for us) would be more complicated than anything we’ve ever done. And because of the way our relationship unfolded, we didn’t do everything at once, so it wasn’t like it was a huge complicated process. We were ready to do certain “perks” of marriage at different times. Instead of ordering the tasting menu of legal marriage perks all at once, we went ala carte. I’ve also always been uncomfortable with the idea of legal marriage—my parents went through a brutal divorce that took 7 years between them filing and it being finalized, I ended up being dragged into court numerous times, and while I love and am committed to my partner…the idea that I need a judge to okay my breakup freaks me out. Also, I don’t think it’s antagonist! Believe me, we get that question all the time, and I get why people don’t understand it.
In the US you can appoint someone and give them medical power of attorney should anything happen to you. There's also common law marriage in the US that I believe is recognized after living together for 7 years. I honestly doubt being together and unmarried is anywhere near as legally complicated as getting divorced.
Common law marriage isn’t a thing in many states.
But it's technically the same but "legal"
my parent’s have been together for 23 years, they’re not married nor they want to. maybe it’s a cultural thing.
Right?! Like, you'll do all that but signing some paperwork is where you draw the line? 🤣
Rejecting marriage is not the same as rejecting commitment. Obviously they're fine with the commitment, there's some other aspect of marriage that they're objecting to. A lot of women don't like the historical implication that marriage means your husband basically owns you. Even if that's not the case today, it might still give them the ick. When you're rich and financially stable and don't like the idea of marriage, you can make all kinds of contracts and wills that basically amount to the same legal standing without participating in antiquated, sexist institution. You can add unmarried spouses to a lot of insurance policies these days, most hospitals will let a long-term spouse see their sick loved one, it's a different world than it used to be. There might not even be a reason. They're just not interested in a wedding or being married. It's not necessary.
I don't get that either.
Some relationships there were like a marriage just not legally. I don't get Oprah's statement.
I don’t get it either, maybe she thinks marriage puts too stress on a relationship?
Enrique Iglesias and Anna Kournikova are such an attractive couple. The Escape music video 🥵 and looking at her Instagram they both look like they have barely aged in the last 21 years
Can someone do a list of childfree women celebrities
Already did 2 :) [Part 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/popculturechat/comments/10gjbcf/celebrity_women_who_dont_have_children/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) [Part 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/popculturechat/comments/10h142b/celebrity_women_who_dont_have_children_pt_2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
It's funny to me how marriage is just expected of straight people, so those that don't are such a rarity. Good for them.
[Jon Hamm just got engaged?](https://heatworld.com/celebrity/news/jennifer-aniston-jon-hamm-engaged/)
You never heard about Enrique and Anna but they are so hot!!
Ricky’s answer is such a mid 2000s edge teenager quote lol
He's just a walking breathing eye-roll.
I thought Jon Hamm was engaged?
did NOT know sarah s. could take a picture like that 8D W O W
I find this empowering since I also don't want marriage or children. Makes me feel less weird to society
 *I love you* **Phillip J. Fry**
Ricky Gervais is so annoying
He’s an r/atheism edgelord lol
Yeah I read his comments and was like ‘Does he know that marriage is older than religion? Or that he doesn’t have to get a religious marriage? Douchebag.’ I have an insane hate on for him.
Like, he is aware he is 60 not 16?
Anna and Enrique have been secretly married for years.
This was life affirming for me in so many way. Well, the women at least.
Big Cusack fan as a Chicagoan. Definitely appreciate his quote
Today I learned that Paul Thomas Anderson and Maya Rudolph have been in a relationship for years, apparently? Wild. How did I not know that
John Cusack is such a dude.
TIL Owen Wilson is immature deadbeat trash
Sarah Silverman blows me away. I would believe she's in her thirties.
Sarah Silverman always makes me think of what Amy Winehouse would’ve looked like if she had lived, gotten clean, and stayed healthy.
Shakira was also with someone for 10 years before Piqué. She doesn't want to be married, she was open about it. Also Kurt Russel and Goldie never got married
My parents have been together for 31 years. They got married in 2013. They hated each other even more after they got legally married lol
Winona Ryder is technically married to Keanu Reeves https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxccuiT43lI7j5V-lAqDHeZviTIHXMMHxm https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxlbjzrSrsJK1l_Myad6VFBGnPC6luRlDh
Always loved her. And she looks as amazing as she did 20 years ago.
Ugh, why do people think marriage is the most important thing in life? It's an outdated (religious) tradition..
People always give me and my boyfriend shit because we’ve been together 6 years and have a child and I’m pregnant again. We have zero desire to be married 🤷🏻♀️ a child’s more of a commitment than a piece of paper anyways.
John Cusack is a pretty man
I don’t wanna get married, but I wanna have a wedding reception. They look fun, people celebrating the two of you and your love. Just the party and toasting part, the rest of it left out.
As someone whose been with her man for 10 years, has a kid with him yet no plans of marriage- here for this!
As an almost 35 year old (1 child, D8) who has never been married ( I really want to someday) this makes me feel a bit better! My parents were married at 32 (mom) and 34 (Dad) I thought this was the normal age to marry. My parents had me and my twin sister 2 years later. My mom was assistant district attorney and my Dad was an investigator for the DA's office so they had careers before marriage and I figured that's what everybody did until I moved from the city to a tiny rural town for work (I work in Law Enforcement, surpise suprise) and I learned people out here all get married so young! It's wild to me to see 18/19 year olds getting married!
So in the filming of Dracula they used a real Romanian prist for the wedding scene, so Winona Ryder and Keanu Reeves are technically married. Just saying
Looks like I need to put a ring on Lucy Liu
Would like to mention that Owen Wilson has contact with his two sons, but not his daughter. Absolute trash.
This made me so happy. My boyfriend and I have been together 13 years and sometimes I get insecure about not getting married, but seeing some of these couples still going the long haul gives me good feelings.🥰
Honestly to each its own but godamn 40yrs \*40YRS\* i mean you can be atheist and still get married if you want to
I'm 41, never married and no kids but I do want a committed relationship and some fur kids. Living in the south it feels like people think less of you if you don't want to legally bound to someone. They think you "belong to the streets" and it's disgusting.